He has 3 CHALLENGER accounts, thinks the META IS WEIRD & Agrees with my SoloQ Fixes?!
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How can one play League so damn much and still be a calm, normal person after all those games.....Impressive really
Especially considering how toxic people are in higher elo, the guy is unflappable
@@honeypotusername you just mute all and if someone spam ping you lute him also. There is no reason not to be a toxic person if you dont interact. +if you are challenger there is a chance that people are normal.
It’s amazing that your name was Calm Kern before playing LoL
@@breed187 What?
I mean you said it yourself, he played league so damn much already that he's desensitized to all potential tilt.
Finally was waiting for pekin he is so underrated.
Agreed. I keep thinking that I was the person he mentioned seeing someone mention Pekin. I was so hype when I saw this.
@@humannfinn7117 was def me
Pekin is trash
@@nathanbilly7302 found the tarzaned viewer
@@izephyr 😂💀
Honestly, as a low elo player, I appreciate any games with a clear plan in mind. Like the recent Lux Mid farming video. Showed me lots ty.
Same
After that video I had so many games with mids who refused to rotate dragons, or even enter the river at all...
@@tritesy you prolly just noticed more tbh
@@tritesy whats the point of losing multiple dragons AND giving up 1000's of gold in aces when you could just sack the first two drags, farm to be god tier, and then win the next 4 dragon fights by yourself?
I like them cuz for me it makes for really good basics practice(farm, wave management, macro etc) that you can do in an actual competitive game vs in practice tool or smth like that.
Out of this entire series, as good as the whole shebang is, I've been most excited for this episode. Pekin seems like the chillest dude. Hilarious dry/goofy humor, very down to earth, and incredibly talented. Stoked the day has come and enjoying the third or so of the video I've watched thus far.
I like Pekin a lot man. He’s a good guy. Learned a lot between you and him. Finally hit masters
Then you are basically their levels. I could learn from you
@@asdfg1346on huge difference between master and challenger
@@redcargo3534 huge difference within challenger too lol
grats
The former mayor of NYC is a masters level league player?
Low ELO content is great - Statistically, the majority of your viewer are in low ELO, so if they're really looking to improve, then seeing how to exploit mistakes and what to be mindful of, especially for macro decisions, is super relevant. I for one, would love to see more of it.
Either way, I'll definitely be consumer your content, Neace! Keep grindin, brother.
As I have gotten better at the game I like watching the "high Elo" content however when I was struggling to improve in the past there really wasn't a lot of low elo content. I was watching challenger players play match ups but I couldn't digest or know what to look for. So I'm in the camp of sticking with the low Elo content for those that need a basis and can actually comprehend the coaching in a digestible way.
The easiest way to parse through the information is: wave state, jungler location, camp timers, cool downs, vision/ward placement, rotations. If you’re looking for those, the information becomes easier to understand. Obviously, there will be things you’ll miss, but you’ll pick up more once you understand why they’re doing things. Ex. “Oh, the top laner saw the jungler going bot and had their wave under tower, so they teleported on a ward bot lane.” At least, it’s easier for me to digest the information when I break it up into segments like that, and have an idea in mind of what to look for. Obviously there’s way more to it than that, but it’s easier to find other things when you’re looking for something specific. Like how they are posturing around minion waves in certain matchups.
@@bos7522 if your goal is to hit challenger, sure. xPetu literally studied someone because he was hardstuck in chally. Unless you’re 2k chally, you can still learn. Even then, you’re learning every patch.
@@bos7522 I'm unsure you read my comment. Imagine two physicists talking about a high level concept. And you don't know anything about physics besides Newton's second law. Imagine trying to extrapolate any information from their conversation. You take physics 101 before physics 401. I'm not saying that you can't learn anything from watching challenger gameplay. I'm saying that it's a lot easier to digest and comprehend the information when someone is coaching a gold level player and have a goal they are working on. Be it wave management/back timings or teamfight positioning. Challenger players know when to blur the line of these "rules" and how they can come out of it ahead. So unless you know exactly what to cherry pick from challenger game play it's more beneficial for lower elo players to consume media about a few things that you can comprehend from it.
@@bos7522 what you are saying has some truth to it. Of course all educational content can be consumed by lower Elo players since there is so much information they (we) do not know. But I tried watching an academy adc coach xFSN saber and my brain was overloaded. And I agree with you on the statement of showing how these concepts work in high Elo is how you show something works. All my take is is saying making the information more blatantly in your face in a low Elo game is more helpful.
Agreed it helps a lot more to learn
The off-meta climb channel would be great! It would highlight how macro wins all the time.
I completely agree with you there pal
I would be entertained that's for sure.
+1
hard agree but would like to see completely new class of champs i.e. anything but trynd / bruisers
@@Sean-rw1gk yeh, I kinda don't want to see him play trynd and just auto-atack his way to victory XD
Pekin is great and this is by far one of the best summoner speaks you've had.
Literally have waited for this for so long, so excited to watch this. When will King Niddhogg be on?
Niddhogg is based. Love that guy. Very thoughtful and down to earth.
Yeah, Nid's streams are basically soapboxes already, so he and Neace would absolutely DECIMATE League's core matchmaking systems with impunity for at LEAST an hour LOL
Yooo. Nidhogggggg. Bring him on
Neace and Niddhogg could have an amazing conversation just on creator/viewer relationship and responsibility.
Second the Nidhogg vote, here
I love Pekin, I feel like I've improved alot at league by watching his content
Idk I really like the gold and platnium stuff. Idk if that is low enough elo but I really apprieciate that because I personally am at the elo and it was always nice to see a little higher than what I am
Yep I’m silver so gold and plat is fine
The general rule of thumb is anywhere below diamond is low elo
@@alphafan11 D4 is low elo
In my honest silver player opinion, High Elo is D2+, in any server
anyone below diamond should be fine with gold/plat games. they're essentially the same in terms of macro.
It’s great to have a mix of your gameplay, low elo coaching etc. love the content man! You’ve helped me so much over the years
44:56 I watched Solarbacca sitting in queue for over an hour a week or so ago, queueing on three accounts and getting nowhere.
there was a time when the chat was bugged. it only worked after the game. man, those were the most chill 2 weeks of league, ever. people were actually nice.
Bro i would choose high elo stuff. We see enough low elo trash on our day to day games. For me personally its much more interesting to see games where everybody knows what their doing. Like with any other game/sport. Its better to watch high level stuff than your day to day stuff
Exactly. There's only so many plus-sized models we can look at before we need to see the real thing.
I would rather watch high Elo educational content then actually play the game, much less of a headache
Absolutely agree.
OMG NEACE spoke to the daddy himself. I love this!
A sad thought came to mind: this discussion about LoL 'shoulds" is like ants discussing humans.
Riot has business plans and the more money you spend the better. They don't care about creating a healthy environment if it hurts their cash income.
You get angry and keep playing? Great!
The less angry you get the faster you stop playing? Oh, we need to keep you angry then.
You keep playing even though the bugs in-game ruin your win rate? We don't have to care about bugs then and just keep releasing skins to get more money - cause you keep playing anyway.
Your games get ruined by people who AFK/intentionally play badly to lose games on many accounts BUT YOU KEEP PLAYING? Well then, you keep playing, we will keep making money - your behavior doesn't change -> ours won't either.
Low elo content will be appreciated NEACE always
@Johan Liebert I am a bronze player dude majority of the player base are below diamond
I also like the idea of not just off meta climbing, but playing champs that are not well or considered bad. I think that would additionally show that macro and understanding match ups wins not just picking nocturne.
@47:17 Neace, there's already an opt out of chat option, it's in the settings. You can turn off both all chat and team chat separately even now. It's been in the game for a while. Just uncheck the box and no more chat once the game starts. I use it when playing on my smurf, it just makes the game so much more peaceful and fun, honestly.
He is aware of that, but you can turn it back on again in 2 seconds if you get angry. He probably means something like removing chat before you log in or something that would make sure you dont turn it back on during a game
I really loved the low ELO commentary where you commented every single mistake you saw or even did yourself. Because you see the game differently than me I don't see some stuff as mistakes. But because I saw that video I've at least tried to see the game that way and that alone has helped a lot!
As someone in low elo, i enjoy seeing low elo content and having things explained like why the opposition is wrong for doing what they are doing, how you recognize things like when people are way out of line and what not. I think that would help me be able to stomp my own low elo games more than anything else. Its a totally different game than high elo stuff
Low elo content is great. Knowing what you "should" be doing is half of the picture, knowing what the opponent "shouldn't" be doing and how to punish it is veeeeery enlightening.
I think that I would enjoy high elo content more, because I want to learn how to play against players, that got their fundamentals down. I‘m guessing something like identifying your winconditions and play to your teams strengths gets more important the higher you go and I want to learn about that too
Welcome back from vacay Neace! one of your quiet ones here. Honestly I like it all - low elo, high elo, regardless I learn a ton every video. Keep it up!
One of the most humble and informative guy.So calm and nice.I love his content.
Hey Neace, I like a good mix of low elo and high elo content. The low elo stuff helps me see how I can exploit bad habits my opponents have, and the high elo content gives me an opportunity to emulate players that are much more skilled than I am.
The off-meta climb sounds super interesting, I'd love to see it.
I will open a coaching website soon and I will indeed try to do a ''bootcamp'' myself in the future and in respect for this amazing idea you had I will tell people that is inspired from you.
Big respect for this mate, hope it will bring you a lot of success and also help the people improve!
yayyy you listened to me and got him to come...nice! My fave educational streamer man...love him and his vibe...you are my fave coach btw Neace!
Low ELO content is definitely my favorite being a low ELO player. Being able to see that with game experience, knowledge, and good play it is possible to carry. Also helps me personally know what I need to focus on to win my games.
Off-meta climb would be really cool, just to show that knowing your fundamentals is usually what makes the difference. Looking forward to the bootcamp!
Hi Neace, low elo content is fine. Can be really good depending on commentary. But PLEASE mention and show the ELO at the start of the vid/in description.
Low Elo content is relevant to most of us. So I’m always for it. Shows us what smashing a game looks like
Man, you are starting to post more and more interesting content. I follow you since 3 years ago.. 2-3 years ago I did not like your content that much, but now I love it.
I really enjoy low elo content because it gives a lot more room for fun shenanigans to happen and it offers a more casual atmosphere even in a ranked setting. I do also enjoy high elo content but there is definitely merit to both.
Glad to see pekin on here, a rarity in high elo streamers.
Addressing the question of low elo content. I would absolutely love to see you play jungle/top with the champions that you recommend for that role in like platinum and below. Watching someone who has massive knowledge of the role/champ/game play against your level of opponents makes learning the champions and roles so much easier.
I love educational low elo content because it's relevant to the vast majority of my games. I'd also love to see you run Tryndamere ADC climbs. Thanks for all your hard work and great content Neace.
"No confrontation and just lie to you" - Hey, that matches my Corporate experience, as well :(
I enjoy all your content a lot, following your udyr games and coachings made me actually better in the game just by learning what NOT to do and punishing opponents who do those things, you're a good teacher. Honestly I'd like to see more of your own gameplays, i just enjoy watching you calmly shit on people. Seeing you do it with different champions is something i'd love, the off meta climb seems like a really good idea also.
Low elo stuff with explanations on your thought processes is great! I'd also like some higher elo stuff maybe with a voice over to see a higher level skill and the thoughts behind your decisions there.
We finally got my boy!!!!
Most low elo content is just challengers showing off. I love your videos because you tend to explain WHY what they're doing is wrong or silly so it helps me know what to do in my games that go full clown shoes
From a marketing aspect, I feel that most of your YT views come from hard stuck gold players trying to learn, so if were strictly saying what will bring neace a paycheck. its probably turning iron players into diamond tryn mids or something tbh
And mostly NA shit heads who even in 5000 years won't get any better overall (including their pro scene). Somehow the produce top tier coaching talent ?
Question mark Question mark Question mark.
@@bonesh0ckerz easier for the people who need to learn to watch other players make mistakes and have them corrected. if youre already plat then ofc you wanna see challenger content
but like 33% of players are gold sooooo
That whole bit about avoiding confrontation sounds like you were dealing with a California office. I've come across that weird social tic of theirs a few times, and seen others struggle with it as well. Exact polar opposite of the NY social ethic at work.
And lol neace on trying to empathize with that. We see you work man, you ain't the one avoiding uncomfortable convos. We like it if we're here.
The low ELO stuff is good for demonstrating and explaining fundamentals, but it would be fantastic if you could show real-time high ELO applications of the stuff you teach in low ELO. Like when you used a challenger VOD to explain scuttle prio from the lanes. Welcome back!
I was thinking about this happening a week ago. Today, it caught me by surprise. I'm so happy right now.
I most enjoy the most educational content. Weather it is in low elo or high doesn’t matter to me. Keep up the great content!
I'd love to see you talk to some more one-tricks (especially weird ones, but not limited to weird-only). Your Trist guide was really cool, and I watch a lot of stuff like that. There was a video talking about how a Heimerdinger support got to challenger, and there were so many little things you just don't know about champs, and it made me wonder if there are some more "unique champ geniuses" out there, that know the perks behind some of the "boring" or "low-tier" champs, or champs that people say are "outdated" or whatever. Especially with the new season's items, I think a lot of characters will have interesting things people never thought of, and I like watching that kind of stuff. Also, I love your collaboration videos. I'd love to see you do one with Manco1 (Teemo main), and others.
When it comes to videos, I'm here for the coaching videos. I'll find time to watch the games you play, but the ones with clients are why I'm subbed.
High Elo > Low Elo
honestly, im happy that others are doing bootcamp like events, and personally im hoping for a french targetted one, since thats the one my eu friends would likely participate in. 500 for a bootcamp though, no thanks. lol. i cant wait for bootcamp 2 man. looking foreward to it!
I love hearing you talk about tryn bot lane because some of my fondest memories are when me and brother would duo bot and I'd play tryn and he'd play blitz (like 10 years ago) I've really gotten into your stuff and it's great
Hi I'm a Portuguese player, and I started watching your videos and I've been watching more and more, acquiring your knowledge and trying to put it into practice, I'm low elo Gold, and I'm trying to climb with your notions, and it hasn't gone that bad!!! soo thank you and continue to make videos of low elo and high elo...I would love to be able to enter your bootcamp, but our time zones are very different.. ty bro
Off meta climb, no low elo content and diamond-high elo content. Love your content man keep it up
Pekin is just a god tier player AND a god tier content creator, happy to see him here
I CANT EXPRESS how happy am about this caloburation
When I heard question about scuttle crab, as lowish elo player (I am gold3), I might have a quite fine solution for scuttlers.
It does not have to be removed, but as it is said, it has too much imapct for the EARLY game. Why dont we just move the timing when the (first) scuttler spawns? We can have first scuttler at like 9:15, that would change the whole game, and how it is played, junglers would I guess just fullclear, and that there will be a game-coinflip for the crab xD.
I am not sure, this might just be dumb...
It would probably shift the game to something more resembling pre-scuttle days. It would probably open jungle diversity a bit since first clear to scuttle would be less important while toplaners could opt into more scaling champions and play safe if there wasn't an early objective that could potential snowball the game at 3-4 minutes.
Run this video back for the new season. I like this conversation a lot
I can't believe I missed this one! :O Two of my favorite content creators out there :D Let's fking go!
watched a few of your videos on tik tok for support now in the past 30 games of nami i have a 80% wr in gold thanks for the help much appreciated.
your low elo content is great its really helpful seeing your advice /gameplay throughout the ranks
Off-meta sounds like a lot of fun to watch, and it really relies on understanding of the game, so you highlight the general game concepts you need to know in order to play off-meta.
Been wanting to see Pekin on here for a while! Super excited to watch this video! :)
I like every thing you do, and it come from who you are and act, more than the subject you work on. Sooooo do what you enjoy!
Love watching your videos on Coaching jungle, I've learned a lot and digested macro from every video you post. I learn something new everyday from you, wish I could afford a coaching session with you, but I have no money. Keep up the good work you're amazing Neace.
49:30 I don't need you to tell me I shouldn't have Tower dive Teemo at level 5. I know it's dumb, but it's the 3rd time tonight I'm playing this matchup and I swear it worked last game.
Besides, there is a built-in mechanic in the game that tells me every time I fail.
Yeah, the screen turns all grey and it says "you have been slain".. even a Teemo main can take the hint.
I’d say low elo content is epic :) I enjoy it a lot, i’d love a video about not just how to do wave management but when and why, as well as roaming stuff and rotating and especially midgame stuff
Neace,
First, thank you for the content you create. I love it and look forward to the videos. Second I really enjoy the “how too” you do on champions in top lane. I always feel like with every big change like hull breaker the new strategy changes and I would love to hear more feedback when these big changes happen. An example of this would be Garen top now that strikebreaker has changed. I find myself being drawn to Glacierr with new changes for this reason. Third, I am so excited for the boot camp and can’t wait!
hey really enjoyed this open convo with another skilled player. I would like to see more of this!!
I miss the off meta challanger alot. So a off meta climbing would be really cool to see :)
pekin is super chill and has some really helpful mids, awesome collab man. that's pretty crazy about the stuff w pekin's team i'll have to check that video out never really heard too much about the inner workings of the teams
It’s like a freakin soap opera lol
As a low elo player I mostly watch your low elo coaching videos so keep it going
You teased us at the end with the T word! I wanted some juicy gossip on Pekin vs Tarzaned, that shit cracks me up from both sides. Pekin needs to get a team together and take this beef to a tyler1 money match!!!
Appreciate the low elo stuff, loads of insight and learning how to learn/practice
I love the low elo content, is very usefull for me! I find there is a nice variety on your chanel and I like that alot, it's not only low elo and it's not only high elo either :)
hey neace, just wanted to say that i really enjoy these chats. its very relaxing to chill and listen to different stories and interesting discussions about league. I know you probably get a ton of comments like this but i just wanted to throw mine in the batch :D
About low elo vs high elo, I think one video of each at a time would be a good idea, with macro explaining included off course, like map observations and whatnot.
Hey Neace! I just wanted to say thank you for putting all this free stuff out. It is really impressive how much you work and despite the fact that I wont be attending the bootcamp( I do think it's fair price I just think it is too much for me rn) I'm sure it's going to be amazing and I wish you the best of luck in the future!
This is the guy that all players should aspire to be like Pekinwoof you are awesome
I like watching most of your content, even the roles I don't personally play. I would like to see a few more plat/emerald level games since a lot of the lower elo games do boil down to you spending 60% of the coaching just trying to get the client to follow the basics well.
I would also love to see you maybe do an off meta series where you demonstrate how to carry from off meta positions, There is a high warwick top player who I remember stayed as warwick even when he played ADC that was covered by another content creator awhile ago that had the same kind of appeal. I've had a soft spot for AP twich support as a secret carry pick for 2 seasons now so I know I'd end up watching something like that :)
Keep up the good content Neace!
I'm pretty neutral on low v high elo. As someone that's brand new, I'd personally prefer seeing more content that's applicable to me in low ELO, but I also really love seeing some of the higher level tactics and such so I can have an idea of where I should be looking to go.
About the "I'll never do this now" guy, I think it's good of you to do the right thing and sit down like adult to have the tough conversation. His reaction is on him, not you, don't let the bad experience change how you conduct business :)
I understand the guy, breaking a promise isn't a "tough conversation" . It's like if I order something and it increases in price during shipping, a professional company will still ship it with the original price even if that doesn't maximize short term profit.
Off-meta climb would be NUTS.
I remember one channel that posted: "How to climb fast and easy." or some shit like that. He was a masters, always played with a masters duo, scouted the players to juggle dodges between the 2, only played the top meta picks and used their status in chat to make the team bend over.
I laughed my ass off thinking "Yeah, much appreciated for all the help, sure I can use you fucked up guide to smurfing."
I don't like content creators to ask us to give a thumbs up and to subscribe or show us graphs of subscribers or whatever. I don't care. What made me like the video is the authenticity and the content itself. Also, I subscribed after watching maybe 10 of your videos and because you were kind by saying "feel free to keep listening in background" with a smiley face.
Anyway, keep up the good content Neace, and about the intro, I love watching high elo stuff to grasp more concepts and learn for myself, but low elo stuff makes me go to the basics and helps me guiding my friends in the game (they are Silver players, so...). Off meta stuff would also be nice to watch.
Thanks!
Very excited for bootcamp and am ecstatic next paycheck is before the 22nd lol
Low elo content is just fine. You listed the best reasons why. Most of us are low elo. If you could introduce, alongside macro talk, things like psychology and philosophy of enemy players it would be great.
Low elo content is what I really like like silver and below because it helps to know these basic things
The remove chat feature is actually good and I get him about the temptation to turn it on. Basically, Riot can just move the disable chat feature to the client and not in game.
You know that option: "Close Client during the game". They should also do it like, "Disable chat during the game" and then in game, the option to enable chat is grayed out.
I think there are just enough high elo content creators, I think you yourself should decide what to do, I myself would enjoy anything anyway, you make games educational and entertaining. I hope your vacation was awesome, welcome back :)
Off-Meta climb sounds great. I dont really watch low-elo aimed content so i would love love love some more high-elo focused stuff, i dont think i've watched any of your low elo coachings in months. Seeing you get coached was amazing, i click so fast on those, would love to see more
I prefer higher elo content but I don't mind checking out some of your coaching too in general as it can given special insight on specific champions and what they look for. I'm already fairly comfortable with a general macro perspective though
Taric / Graves was like season 2. Me and a friend realized we could actually down someone before they could fight back. In that time it was hard to hold on to someone and down them in one rotation.
49:12 I think Pekin and NEACE were on totally different wave lengths here which was kind of funny
I'm of the mindset there should be:
- Solo Queue
- Duo / Trio Queue
- Flex Queue (Five Man)
I feel like duo/trio queue would be extremely toxic,if things go wrong the duo would blame the trio and vice versa. Lots of flaming, toxicity and trolling confirmed lol
@@lulemadjar6494 that’s already a thing, honestly. It’s the only way to keep duo queue around at all for anyone who likes it because of the fact that all alternatives involve throwing in at least one person solo queued.
I appreciate it might not be for everyone but the low elo content has been perfect for me. I'm still relatively new to the game, this is my first full season. I've climbed from Silver 3 to Gold 2 this season w/ Tristana and the low-elo videos have massively helped. I love the high elo stuff too but I need to learn how to climb in low elo first.
I did the first bootcamp and would love to do this one, unfortunately one of those weeks I'm super swamped and can't play enough games but I'll do the next one!
I would love to see some high-elo content from you with postgame commentary so you can focus on the game while playing it, then explain your thought process after the fact. One of my favorite videos of yours (that the algorthim threw in my reccommends again the other day) was the game where you played TF mid against Yassuo, and I'd love to see more "recap + highlights" style post-game commentary videos like that one.
low elo high elo content should be 1:1. I love watching low elo stuff because there is something you can learn from these vids. but i like the hiher elo stuff too. i personally learn a lot. thx neace keep it up. much love
I have been watching your videos for about a year and I am still in Iron, so I obviously need the bootcamp. Also, I like the coachings from low and high Elos. They are very similar, but there is less yelling to "Walk UP!" or "Shove MID!" in higher Elo.