izzynobre This is pre selection. It's demonstrate such high value... How many woman you have, most atractive you are. But does not mean that you necessarily need woman, to pick up another women
no, he's essentially saying you can 'upgrade' to a beautiful woman (aka hired gun). Imagine coming out of nowhere and hitting on a bartender.. in that scenario you are almost guaranteed to fail.
He is still the grandmaster! My first pua guru. But game or gaming is all about getting better and enjoy fucking everything. Even corona make us pretty calm. Nah
People never liked him: You had the media making fun of them on most interviews, which they kept coming back to because people either loved their work or hated it. Now, with Feminism fully rooting as a cultural norm, which it was only starting to during this time, it was seen as the 'right' thing to hate PUAs. Their methods aren't perfect, and shouldn't be taken literally, but they give a shit ton of insight into human psychology and how we can apply that as a skill.
When I reach out to another human, I've found doing so from a place of total honesty lays the absolute best foundation. Tell Patrick Bateman I said "hi" at the next Tupperware party, killer.
I've accidentally happened to have been born with a smidgen of natural game, and I've observed everything Strauss wrote about Mystery and the rest of the PUA's in the field - meaning that over the years I've watched women react to different men, and everything Neil and Mystery said in the book, is all true. Mystery seems like the real thing, no one else I've seen so far seems real.
Women goes on looks, but that's not a static thing. It includes how you hold yourself, your body language and facial expressions. PUA covers that and includes how to nurture that initial spark of attraction. Quite right that it's difficult to change someone's (woman or man) mind once it's made up.
Knowyourmeme says people have been saying, "I see what you did there," since 2005. A perfect demonstration that originality is not a characteristic you find from people running game out of Mystery's playbook.
This is one of the more cringey aspects of "pick-up"....make sure some other chick is watching while you tell a joke to a couple other chicks and time it EXACTLY right so as to reap the benefits. Sounds like more trouble than its worth 😂
As for the "acting cool" and stuff like that. Ive been at this for a while now and trust me, they arent looking for who acts like the coolest guy. They want the realest guy out there. Meaning you can act goofy, different, or uncool and still catch the attention of many beautiful ladies if your real and authentic. Women choose the men they do for specific reasons unlike the reasons that men choose a women. They like you because of who you are, not how cool you look or tough you act like.
That's in Mystery's second book and he refers to that as the "Ghost and Flame." There's no one way to be, and he said trying to look cool looks boring.
@Archibald: The reason to take the time to learn "game" is so you can differentiate yourself between the dozens of other guys that hit on them throughout any given week. It doesn't hurt to study up a bit on female psychology, body language etc. to increase your chances to get the girl to notice you. Learning "game" is your IN.. once you establish rapport with the girl, you can then be yourself.. Game just gets your foot in the door. Oh, and the program on "Mack Methods, com" is good man.
although at the same time I think some of the theory can be applied and may make you appear more confident which is a good thing so.. depends what you believe in I guess.
@izzynobre You're wrong actually sorry. He's teaching a lesson here on hired guns. He already taught lessons on getting women to surround you so he's not using circular logic in this case.
I disagree. I am a good looking man but all my life I was extremely shy so I didn't know how to socialize. This made it very hard to attract women and keep them interested. My experience is that women will be attracted by looks in the initial stages of courtship, but looks only get you so far... Once they find out you have no personality that's when they just walk away and find a guy that can keep their interest.
This video is 4 years old , Pickup theory has evolved since then. He's breaking down natural elements in life. You can't fake these qualities , these are natural abilities. I disagree with these canned lines , i do agree in having the learning wheels so once you have mastered the basics you can be You!. Women can sense any sort of fakeness in a person. I believe you need to have a strong mindset , strongest in the room. Bend the rules , have fun all the time . Learn how to touch a person in a not so serious way. Relax have fun dont take it serious at all.
Kristian Lofts "Naturals" do this subconsciously; and it was the naturals that Mystery and others observed to develop these techniques. They WORK because it's human interaction. In fact, RSD, the most popular pickup company in the world based their entire model off of Mystery's theory of "Social Dynamics," and then went on to make it their own. Nonetheless, the base of what Mystery cultivated still stands to this day. That said... We use canned lines in everyday life. Literally, we have the same conversations each and every day in some capacity. When someone asks how you're doing and you say "great!" or "good!," that's a canned line. Half the time, we're feeling mediocre or somewhere in-between. But we've been programmed to respond this way. And if you've ever worked retail, you would probably agree that interactions are virtually robotic. With humanoid, emotionally charged interactions from time to time (haha). My point is that if you're already doing it, why not master it? Why not have a go-to conversational piece to get you through the anxiety of holding court? Or an awkward elevator ride (nothing more excruciating than those)? I totally understand your point that we should be genuine, and I agree 100%. And you can be! Because you're telling your stories and when you're telling your stories, your life, your truth; you'll be the most knowledgeable and confident in that. It's showing your best self. Just my two cents. Nice comment!
Canned is great. You don't have to think. I have a bunch of jokes and stories that get consistent reactions and whenever I'm in a new crowd and someone runs out of ideas and starts feeling stressed. I have a really funny uncle that would always tell a joke when a topic of conversation runs out, or someone leaves or enters and the energy changes.
@DavePazz To assume that every attractive woman is hit on a lot is ridiculous. Most aren't (except maybe at pubs/clubs, which are terrible places to try and pick up), and a bit of confidence and charm will get you a long way.
thats another story . mystery said he is wearing weird clothes so it can be used a pea cocking and it can be more hard more him to be '' accepted '' so he will be better at his game ! he is pushing boundaries :)
Anyone who's literate knows I'm not missing your point. You're saying we wear masks depending on what company we keep. But no matter how self aware you are of that twisted reality, if you're okay with that, it only makes you even more dishonest. Or more disingenuous. Or more unoriginal. Whichever adjective you prefer. We can totally agree on one thing though. MM is definitely no different.
@DanMyers83 - Looks aren't that important man, women just want to feel secure. In order to make them feel that, you need to come across as being an alpha male (provider, protector and a leader). I read a program (the one on "be the bad boy {dot} com") and one of the many things it opened my eyes too is the fact that I needed to get over my shyness and to stop being so "nice", available and accommodating to the girls I was after because women associate that shit with weakness.
DEAR ALL!!!! Im trying to find out what Mystery is up to nower days please let me know. any new Pua stuff or traing let me know. Got like $4000 I dont mind blowing on a seminar
Eh, I think it all depends on what women you are going after (this is to all the unsure guys). If you are trying to get women in the club, his techniques are spot on. And I'll say that some of his other tips, like confidence, are great in any situation. (but that goes for both sexes). Just don't lose yourself trying to be something you're not, especially if you are trying to get the girl of your dreams, (as opposed to someone you just want to have sex with.) Being true to yourself is hot.
Mystery was a performer- a professional magician/illusionist- so adapting a persona to keep and audience's attention was part of his work. His work is very helpful for performers also, especially about the pausing and body language. I respect his work ethic.
life is a game ! depends for who ! depends how you see , conceive things ! we are all playing a role some people are not aware of it some are ! its like a huge fucking movie / video game .... life's a game ! ;)
That's not true. How can it be weakness if you show courage to go for her and go for what you want no matter what. You are actually showing weakness by being someone you’re not. You are seeking approval because you think that being yourself is not good enough. It might work in the short run, but In the long run she’s going to see you were lying. The real weakness is you not being yourself to get approval not the other way around. You would have known if do something instead of reading something
Stevie van de Laar man,the be yrself line is total bollocks unless youre superman or batman..so you want a fat gross dude who munches on doritos 24 hours a day in front of his pc screen to be himself?
No its proving you can get women and are good with women. That's the way of the world. Besides a lot of guys have female friends. Doesn't mean she's attracted you in that way but it does show you can be respectful. So if that's circular logic then surgeons must be really bad. To be a good surgeon you need to do surgeries. Its just how it works.
Yeah the whole thing is based off looks, I mean you see how some guys who are good looking can treat women its because of there looks. The whole you don't have enough game is just a shame tactic to blame the male for not being good looking.
@mastereismaname it's not a "trick" it's just people. people are ehoistic self centerd people and if they see some one who is "better" than them then the'll try to some how get past you.
I have to laugh at PUA. What they never teach is the "now what?" moment when you landed the woman, she nags you constantly, you're spending all your money on her and she's stopped putting out. Congratulations! You won the girl....LOL.
Also, don't believe that looks aren't important, they are a factor to EVERY one. Unless you have a real evil lady that is only after money etc. Basically, I'm saying if you are going so far as to look at these tricks for help, then go ahead and make yourself look good. Take regular showers, smell nice, brush your hair. Don't look like you've been sitting in a basement for years. :P It does matter at least to some extent. It's better safe than sorry amirite?
The guy has a point, when women who want to hook up see a guy with other decent looking women who's part of their group, the guy's status goes up. As compared to being alone, you come off as a creeper.
That was indeed circular. Well said. The guy is good but some of his methods are rather over complicated. Getting a woman's panties off need not be so complex. We are here because people have been having sex for as long as they have existed. The 'game' makes it seem enigmatic and complex. I prefer Alan Roger Currie to this guy. I did study Mystery years ago and had some success but the effort I had to put in was just not worth it.
@NakenKenguruTiss maybe your doing it wrong, girls in a club dress up for hours and know they look good and usually enjoy being in photos. 2nd do you think the whole club who think your an ass for doing it. maybe one or two drunk guys would if you failed and they would forget anyway but who gives a shit about them anyway.
@zinizterz He's definitively teaching entertainment; casual entertainment. Being magician, it makes sense. He is teaching how to entertain people in order to get them interested in further social interaction with you. Unfortunately, he doesn't make it sound that simple. Instead, he makes it sound so deep by using an invented pseudo-intellectual dialect full of dumb acronyms. It's huge pile of BS.
Everything has an expiration date, especially near-meaningless catch phrases. You don't actually think I'm depressed. You're just trying to be condescending. Trying and failing.
I love the circular logic in his teaching. "To get women all you need is to already have some women".
izzynobre This is pre selection. It's demonstrate such high value... How many woman you have, most atractive you are. But does not mean that you necessarily need woman, to pick up another women
easiest method ever.bringing a hot gal to the gym leads to so many encounters when you go alone later on
mano, pq caralhos o izzynobre tá aqui aushauhsuahushuashaush
@@nully6933 pq caralhos o brasileiro ali em cima tá falando em inglês com o Izzy? 🤣🤣
no, he's essentially saying you can 'upgrade' to a beautiful woman (aka hired gun). Imagine coming out of nowhere and hitting on a bartender.. in that scenario you are almost guaranteed to fail.
0:47 That Face though XD
@2:22 it's as if Homer simpson has signed up for the Game play..
This guy is awesome. He is a machine with it. Totally smooth and easily keeps my ADD/ADHD ass focused.
RSD WILL NEVER ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING AS BIG AS THIS
Kenny TheChefCurry already have
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They’ve done way better at this point
I agree. RSD is too mainstream and becoming slightly politically correct.
What are you talking about, mystery trained owen, some concepts are same, some are different. But fundamentals are same
He behaves in a way that's so refined...
*NEXT ON: Mystery Method Flashing HIV*
its strange how people are so negative to this guy but few years ago he was loved just wondering what happened??
They realized game is bullshit
They grew up.
The The black pill/ Incels addicted to porn have taken over the internet. Game is evolving but the human psyche. Takes millions of years to evolve.
He is still the grandmaster! My first pua guru. But game or gaming is all about getting better and enjoy fucking everything. Even corona make us pretty calm. Nah
People never liked him: You had the media making fun of them on most interviews, which they kept coming back to because people either loved their work or hated it. Now, with Feminism fully rooting as a cultural norm, which it was only starting to during this time, it was seen as the 'right' thing to hate PUAs. Their methods aren't perfect, and shouldn't be taken literally, but they give a shit ton of insight into human psychology and how we can apply that as a skill.
2:22 It's like he saying, "Wut?"
Matador is desperately trying to stay awake throughout this whole video
When I reach out to another human, I've found doing so from a place of total honesty lays the absolute best foundation.
Tell Patrick Bateman I said "hi" at the next Tupperware party, killer.
I've accidentally happened to have been born with a smidgen of natural game, and I've observed everything Strauss wrote about Mystery and the rest of the PUA's in the field - meaning that over the years I've watched women react to different men, and everything Neil and Mystery said in the book, is all true. Mystery seems like the real thing, no one else I've seen so far seems real.
Mystery is the godfather of this shit
So you have borderline personality disorder
Women goes on looks, but that's not a static thing. It includes how you hold yourself, your body language and facial expressions. PUA covers that and includes how to nurture that initial spark of attraction. Quite right that it's difficult to change someone's (woman or man) mind once it's made up.
Knowyourmeme says people have been saying, "I see what you did there," since 2005. A perfect demonstration that originality is not a characteristic you find from people running game out of Mystery's playbook.
The guy in the middle is like... almost falling asleep! Hahahaha
This is one of the more cringey aspects of "pick-up"....make sure some other chick is watching while you tell a joke to a couple other chicks and time it EXACTLY right so as to reap the benefits. Sounds like more trouble than its worth 😂
why does Joe D always look like he's stoned?
Dude, you're blowing me up with these double-taps. You get 500 characters. Make 'em count.
this guy should teach social dynamics
@xXXdimixx He dresses like that on purpose. all part of the game
I think it is more important to actually have higher values, not just show them. Seduction may be a game, but life is not.
As for the "acting cool" and stuff like that. Ive been at this for a while now and trust me, they arent looking for who acts like the coolest guy. They want the realest guy out there. Meaning you can act goofy, different, or uncool and still catch the attention of many beautiful ladies if your real and authentic. Women choose the men they do for specific reasons unlike the reasons that men choose a women. They like you because of who you are, not how cool you look or tough you act like.
That's in Mystery's second book and he refers to that as the "Ghost and Flame." There's no one way to be, and he said trying to look cool looks boring.
@izzynobre no he is talking about the "hired guns" not any woman
@Archibald: The reason to take the time to learn "game" is so you can differentiate yourself between the dozens of other guys that hit on them throughout any given week.
It doesn't hurt to study up a bit on female psychology, body language etc. to increase your chances to get the girl to notice you.
Learning "game" is your IN.. once you establish rapport with the girl, you can then be yourself.. Game just gets your foot in the door.
Oh, and the program on "Mack Methods, com" is good man.
I suppose rockstars, celebrities and others with unique style fit this category too huh?
@BlazingStyle right, "help" them after you charge them hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
My favorite PUA is furious.
His techniques are bulletproof.
although at the same time I think some of the theory can be applied and may make you appear more confident which is a good thing so.. depends what you believe in I guess.
I'm reading this book and I can't hate. It's good.
@izzynobre You're wrong actually sorry. He's teaching a lesson here on hired guns. He already taught lessons on getting women to surround you so he's not using circular logic in this case.
I disagree. I am a good looking man but all my life I was extremely shy so I didn't know how to socialize. This made it very hard to attract women and keep them interested. My experience is that women will be attracted by looks in the initial stages of courtship, but looks only get you so far... Once they find out you have no personality that's when they just walk away and find a guy that can keep their interest.
is that the PUA music in the back.
Could you elaborate on that?
LMFAO The guy at the end was like wtfffffff
Genius!
this guy knows aliens and got into their research!
This video is 4 years old , Pickup theory has evolved since then. He's breaking down natural elements in life. You can't fake these qualities , these are natural abilities. I disagree with these canned lines , i do agree in having the learning wheels so once you have mastered the basics you can be You!. Women can sense any sort of fakeness in a person. I believe you need to have a strong mindset , strongest in the room. Bend the rules , have fun all the time . Learn how to touch a person in a not so serious way. Relax have fun dont take it serious at all.
This isn't canned. It's more of an outlook or technique.
Kristian Lofts "Naturals" do this subconsciously; and it was the naturals that Mystery and others observed to develop these techniques. They WORK because it's human interaction. In fact, RSD, the most popular pickup company in the world based their entire model off of Mystery's theory of "Social Dynamics," and then went on to make it their own. Nonetheless, the base of what Mystery cultivated still stands to this day. That said...
We use canned lines in everyday life. Literally, we have the same conversations each and every day in some capacity. When someone asks how you're doing and you say "great!" or "good!," that's a canned line. Half the time, we're feeling mediocre or somewhere in-between. But we've been programmed to respond this way. And if you've ever worked retail, you would probably agree that interactions are virtually robotic. With humanoid, emotionally charged interactions from time to time (haha).
My point is that if you're already doing it, why not master it? Why not have a go-to conversational piece to get you through the anxiety of holding court? Or an awkward elevator ride (nothing more excruciating than those)? I totally understand your point that we should be genuine, and I agree 100%. And you can be! Because you're telling your stories and when you're telling your stories, your life, your truth; you'll be the most knowledgeable and confident in that. It's showing your best self. Just my two cents. Nice comment!
Champ1988 Great recapitulation. This is precisely what happens.
Canned is great. You don't have to think. I have a bunch of jokes and stories that get consistent reactions and whenever I'm in a new crowd and someone runs out of ideas and starts feeling stressed. I have a really funny uncle that would always tell a joke when a topic of conversation runs out, or someone leaves or enters and the energy changes.
@DavePazz To assume that every attractive woman is hit on a lot is ridiculous. Most aren't (except maybe at pubs/clubs, which are terrible places to try and pick up), and a bit of confidence and charm will get you a long way.
what a scientist of women. this guy is a genius
RIP MEGAVIDEO where I watched the two seasons.
But are you gonna back up that DHV?
No way, you answer my question first. What's your aunt doing this weekend?
thats another story . mystery said he is wearing weird clothes so it can be used a pea cocking and it can be more hard more him to be '' accepted '' so he will be better at his game ! he is pushing boundaries :)
at 1:07 Metador thinks about a specific situation with girls in the past:)
@CreepinCreepers it's not Sinn it's James Matador lol...this guy's a beast in the field!
mystery and matador are my fucking heroes
I didn't know it was possible to laugh if you don't have a soul.
Anyone who's literate knows I'm not missing your point. You're saying we wear masks depending on what company we keep. But no matter how self aware you are of that twisted reality, if you're okay with that, it only makes you even more dishonest. Or more disingenuous. Or more unoriginal. Whichever adjective you prefer.
We can totally agree on one thing though. MM is definitely no different.
@shedmeat why don't you use that to invest on a buisness or "the betterment of your life" in general.
@DavePazz eh kinda not really though.
Needed more than 500 characters to hammer the same point into the bedrock, huh?
@DanMyers83 - Looks aren't that important man, women just want to feel secure.
In order to make them feel that, you need to come across as being an alpha male (provider, protector and a leader).
I read a program (the one on "be the bad boy {dot} com") and one of the many things it opened my eyes too is the fact that I needed to get over my shyness and to stop being so "nice", available and accommodating to the girls I was after because women associate that shit with weakness.
"You don't have to be a psychopath to appeal to ladies, but it sure helps."
He looks like Woody from Toy Story
I approve and second this comment! Mode One is the best!!!
DEAR ALL!!!! Im trying to find out what Mystery is up to nower days please let me know. any new Pua stuff or traing let me know.
Got like $4000 I dont mind blowing on a seminar
Eh, I think it all depends on what women you are going after (this is to all the unsure guys). If you are trying to get women in the club, his techniques are spot on. And I'll say that some of his other tips, like confidence, are great in any situation. (but that goes for both sexes). Just don't lose yourself trying to be something you're not, especially if you are trying to get the girl of your dreams, (as opposed to someone you just want to have sex with.) Being true to yourself is hot.
Mystery was a performer- a professional magician/illusionist- so adapting a persona to keep and audience's attention was part of his work. His work is very helpful for performers also, especially about the pausing and body language. I respect his work ethic.
life is a game ! depends for who ! depends how you see , conceive things ! we are all playing a role some people are not aware of it some are ! its like a huge fucking movie / video game .... life's a game ! ;)
That's not true. How can it be weakness if you show courage to go for her and go for what you want no matter what. You are actually showing weakness by being someone you’re not. You are seeking approval because you think that being yourself is not good enough. It might work in the short run, but In the long run she’s going to see you were lying. The real weakness is you not being yourself to get approval not the other way around. You would have known if do something instead of reading something
Stevie van de Laar man,the be yrself line is total bollocks unless youre superman or batman..so you want a fat gross dude who munches on doritos 24 hours a day in front of his pc screen to be himself?
No its proving you can get women and are good with women. That's the way of the world. Besides a lot of guys have female friends. Doesn't mean she's attracted you in that way but it does show you can be respectful.
So if that's circular logic then surgeons must be really bad. To be a good surgeon you need to do surgeries. Its just how it works.
yes, you do that. make me a sandwhich. hahaha.
Mystery is not an ugly guy. Therefore, doesn't that kind of negate half the stuff he is teaching to us normal guys?
The best!
Whats the name of the show ?
VH1 THE PICKUP ARTIST. AVAILABLE ON AMAZON
............Orrrr you could just walk up to her with a big smile on your face and introduce yourself. Just a thought
How so?
Yeah the whole thing is based off looks, I mean you see how some guys who are good looking can treat women its because of there looks. The whole you don't have enough game is just a shame tactic to blame the male for not being good looking.
@mastereismaname it's not a "trick" it's just people. people are ehoistic self centerd people and if they see some one who is "better" than them then the'll try to some how get past you.
I have to laugh at PUA. What they never teach is the "now what?" moment when you landed the woman, she nags you constantly, you're spending all your money on her and she's stopped putting out. Congratulations! You won the girl....LOL.
LMFAO so true
Also, don't believe that looks aren't important, they are a factor to EVERY one. Unless you have a real evil lady that is only after money etc. Basically, I'm saying if you are going so far as to look at these tricks for help, then go ahead and make yourself look good. Take regular showers, smell nice, brush your hair. Don't look like you've been sitting in a basement for years. :P It does matter at least to some extent. It's better safe than sorry amirite?
@DavePazz Actually, it's called common sense.
This was not DHV in generel, but pre-selection. Bro.
Hey, is your aunt busy this weekend? Fat chix are my jam.
@shechshire Yeah you're proberly right! lol
mystery u r my hero
That's a horrible analogy, just so you know.
The guy has a point, when women who want to hook up see a guy with other decent looking women who's part of their group, the guy's status goes up. As compared to being alone, you come off as a creeper.
These men already dress in a way that lowers their social value.
I'm Almost at that level!
That was indeed circular. Well said.
The guy is good but some of his methods are rather over complicated. Getting a woman's panties off need not be so complex. We are here because people have been having sex for as long as they have existed. The 'game' makes it seem enigmatic and complex. I prefer Alan Roger Currie to this guy. I did study Mystery years ago and had some success but the effort I had to put in was just not worth it.
Strike up a conversation, be confident, be witty and charming, ask for the number and then leave. Fuck this 'value' shit.
And you actually paid 69$ for MackMethods?
the guy reminds me of Chester Bennington...:P
Have you ever picked up a woman? You have to be precise like a surgeon. And if she's ugly...
who else thinks this is creepy as fuck ??
***** may nobody else thinks because everybody here are creep themselves.
Judgmental bitch
fuck yeah mystery.
ahaah exactly i was watching the same thing ...
@NakenKenguruTiss maybe your doing it wrong, girls in a club dress up for hours and know they look good and usually enjoy being in photos. 2nd do you think the whole club who think your an ass for doing it. maybe one or two drunk guys would if you failed and they would forget anyway but who gives a shit about them anyway.
@zinizterz He's definitively teaching entertainment; casual entertainment. Being magician, it makes sense. He is teaching how to entertain people in order to get them interested in further social interaction with you. Unfortunately, he doesn't make it sound that simple. Instead, he makes it sound so deep by using an invented pseudo-intellectual dialect full of dumb acronyms. It's huge pile of BS.
"Flash her from a distance." Isn't that a crime?
and?
I watched that video. "loophole in womens psychology?" NOW THAT'S the most sexist fuckign thing ive ever heard....
way serious
@AmericanTakeover yea by a sumo wrestler lmao!
@footsyontop Cool story brah.
best
PIMPIN' yo
Izzy nobre
ahahahhahahaha priceless!
Everything has an expiration date, especially near-meaningless catch phrases.
You don't actually think I'm depressed. You're just trying to be condescending. Trying and failing.
I want to say something negative about this video, but I'll reframe for fear of being flooded with objective comments from PUA apologists.