What if We Had a GREAT X-Men Game?
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Man was so down bad for Emma Frost he went and developed a whole-ass RPG from scratch.
Can't even blame him
Not only that but a 20-min TED talk to sell us into it. If that's not the ultimate thirst, I don't know what is.
swimming in the milk
He had a cast with built in, well known, relationship and based it on another RPG but yeah other than that from scratch
I’d do the same thing
You should make a x men dnd campaign and then live stream it for the channel
Now THIS PERSON is spittin'
@@cosmonautvarietyhourPLEASE DO THIS I BEG YOU MARCUS
@@cosmonautvarietyhour gotta do it now!
I miss dungeons and cosmonauts 😭
@@cosmonautvarietyhourdo it you coward
And I’ll watch
I know it was mostly a joke bit, but deadpool as the merchant/shopkeeper would be so good. It fits so well. I can almost imagine it. So many players would enter and exit just to hear him. And he'd have a bit at the end that goes something along the lines of "hey, scram already. i only got so many voice lines." or something more deadpool-y
And Ryan Reynolds would be so down to do anything Deadpool related he would definitely voice him
I also just think the idea of Deadpool selling weapons to kids is funny and in-character.
@@RSATT01and because Deadpool basically operates on cartoon logic he can just show up throughout the story like the resident evil merchant
@@heze2819nolan north is better
A voice clip by Ryan plays after so many encounters on the same day, "You happy now, you got to hear the celebrity voice cameo. But it ain't gonna be cheap, buddy." Then the prices for all items go up for the rest of the semester or quarter of the year.
14:20 toad being like the "lame kid" that doesn't really have any friends only to join your party and get the best friend group ever is honestly a kickass idea
Make toad META
I want the TOAD to tongue me 🗿🗿🗿
He's the Hermit Arcana.
“Okay guys so what you are gonna want to do is pick Toad,Magik, and Iceman. Use Toad’s tongue and Magik’s portals to move enemies away, and Iceman to stop them from getting too close along with some Toad slime traps. Now if you spent enough time in shop class with Forge you can use your firearms to pick them off with them never even touching you.”
He should be the roommate/ best friend character. He would be absolutely peak gaming.
You know what else this would need? Cosmetics. The X Men are like the drippiest superhero team in existence. Unlockable costumes is a requirement. Yellow spandex for Cyclops.
YESSSSS! You can get costumes that match for the whole team as well as classic and new unique costumes for every character. ( Needless to say some of the costumes should COMPLETELY change the aesthetic of the characters not just a palate swap and a scarf)
gotta piss off his film counterpart
*monkey's paw curls*
There will be plenty of cosmetics... In the paid battlepass and cosmetic store
Muahahahahah
imagine the hellfire gala outfits
Yessir can't have a superhero game without different costumes
If your Mutant power is mimicking the powers of others around you just imagine how cute the Rogue romance would be. Her eating herself up inside that your power reminds her how dangerous she is and how lonely it makes her, but with your X-Factor being so high with her and your power mimicking hers so much they could end up cancelling each other out and she'd finally have a person she cares about that she could touch without hurting! I want this, I want this game now, how dare you
Oh my poor heart, it can't take all this cuteness
Dear God I love this.
Yes but what really happened is it becomes a negative feedback loop, power draining power exponentially until all that's left are two shriveled corpses embracing each other desperately
@@daffyf6829this is cute too
You just made the perfect outline for a fanfic please write that
I know Wolverine works as a danger room couch, but he could also teach history. He’s one of the oldest mutants in the school. Also, this seems obvious, Colossus should be the art teacher.
Oh yeah, forgot Colossus was an artist. Genius selection
I could just imagine him talking about his own experiences with no text books. Just a slide show and lectures and notes. And if anyone corrects him he’ll just go in depth about the bs he went through and how some facts got smudged over time
I don't think Wolverine would be very comfortable to sit on personally, and the danger room is hardly the place to have a couch. I like the history teacher angle though but we should keep him as a coach instead of a couch.
@@donovanfaust3227 I just wanted you to know that I'm high right now and "danger room couch" comment made so little sense to me that I thought I was going insane for not understanding what a danger room couch is while everyone else seems to and it wasn't until I read your reply that I realized the typo. thank you
@@Dookieman1975 "I was there, bub. Stop arguing with the teacher!"
As a game developer, this is one of the best pitches for a modern turn-based RPG I've ever heard.
Right? Like Marcus said, the social gameplay sounds amazing and deep. But then his ideas for the combat sound incredible as well. Especially the combo moves-it honors the Xmen. I need this game.
Do not have your character's powers copycat other members of the team like in X-Men Destiny. It made that game unplayable for me. I have faith that we'll get some decent games with the '97 comeback and MCU movies in the future. X-Men Legends 2 ftw.
The best thing I think would be to only have the mimic thing work completely on non team characters, then just give buffs to the team
Seeing Jaden Smith as an X-Men was very random but welcomed.
It was perfect clickbait because it made me wanna watch the video
Well he is a mutant.
I hated it
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zny
@@MonkeyDJaden75 I find all the smiths annoying
I didn't know a Cosmanout head canon video was something i needed in my life. but now I know I desperately need more of it.
I know!! fr
These headcanon videos are always the best, as well as the one about Rise of Skywalker and how it should be
When this game comes out, I will speed run the "romancing the toad" category
It's crazy how much like Midnight Suns this is, I'm shocked you haven't heard of it? Because this is so much like it, even down to the combat.
I was thinking the same thing as I watched this.
Marketing for that game was pretty bad, like I literally never heard of it until the day it came out.
fr
Heard the non combat aspects of that have sucked
@@snowballandpalsimo that's wrong
I started thinking about the implications of the game and realized this bug could be a feature. Like, how disturbing would it be for, like, Darwin to approach you and strike up a deep friendship with you, then you try to romance him and he ends up guiltily admitting that he's been spending time with you because the other kids, or maybe the faculty, have been encouraging him to because they think you having his powers would make you a better fighter. Something at some point makes you realize that any relationship you have probably had selfish motives behind it. You're in a relationship with Kitty Pride and now you have to wonder if she initially asked you out because the professor was planning a stealth mission.
The Professor X is a jerk season. I like it
Every game needs to be seasoned with emotion
Because we're not being exploited enough irl
Really fucked up that the MC is essentially being pimped out to become a powerful hero. Like it's so out of line but it feels like something Professor X would be forced to do. Would he rather let one of his students live a life that's as normal as possible or groom him into becoming a savior to save mutantkind from extinction?
@@zerothefool2437 sounds like the premise of Dune
If Cyclops is characterized like he is in X-Men Evolution, no one would accuse him of being boring.
This. His Evo characterisation is basically exactly what Marcus was talking about, just vaguely less 'jock'. The insertion of the Scott/Jean/Rogue triangle, as much as we all knew how it would end, was interesting too.
@@MrStath1986 Who would it be in the end? Considering that in evolution Rogue and Scott would end up in evolution
He's not even a boring character in the comics tbh
Cyclops is not boring in the 616 he just has a lot of baggage. I am certain if he went to therapy as child or teenager instead of being an X-Man full time he would be a lot better. He goes to therapy in my story/marvel universe and comes out as better person for it
Everyone who thought cyclops boring(me included ) eat our words the moment you start reading the comics from the Grant Morrison run
Imagine if there are like secret questlines that are unlocked when you reach a certain level of x-factor with certain people. Have a certain x-factor with Quicksilver and you can learn a little and maybe even meet Wanda. A high X-factor with Rogue and Nightcrawler follows a storyline where they a have a sort of mutual friend, proceed further and if you make the right choices and get on their good side, you develop a hidden X-factor with Mystique. Maybe followed by a brief encounter with Destiny who might hint towards future questlines with other characters.
Prof X could be the game's "handicap" mechanic. If you've been struggling with the dungeon sections, he'll find you to give you some guidance, which boosts your stat gains for next day or so.
Emphasis on the handicap part eh
the concept of Cyclops being Fred and Jean being Daphne is actually perfect and i wish it was something that'd occurred to me before. i love it
Daphne is a bit ditzy. I don't want Jean Grey to be ditzy. She already has the negative rep of being the weakest thanks to her bad portrayal of always fainting in the TAS cartoons.
So, a mutant whose ability is *literally* the power of friendship? I actually quite like that idea. Maybe if you max out their relationship with a villain (that increases through in-combat quipping), you can get them to switch sides and join the X-Men.
7:19 Barely 1/3 into the video and I already love this idea. It's amazing how easily the Persona formula transplants itself onto the Xavier Institute. Even having your character be the mutant equivalent to a "Wild Card" feels so perfectly on-brand. I think X-Men Destiny tried to do something like this, but it just didn't work there because the protagonists were...we'll generously say 'uninspired', and there was no slice-of-life element to really forge the X-Factor (a new favorite term of mine, thanks for that!).
SUPER happy you made clear that everyone in the game would be bi. While I like having exclusively "gay" or "straight" options because it's slightly more realistic, I am not playing an X-Men RPG for the realism. I'm gonna get my homo superior ass a blue fuzzy boyfriend and canon can't stop me. ^_^
On the subject of the characters:
*Cyclops* : is not a jock, technically. At his best, he's a Boy Scout. Even as a teenager, he coordinates his sock drawer for fun, keeps a copy of Sun Tzu's The Art Of War by his bed, and makes battle plans and strategies in his sleep. If he couldn't be the DM in a game of D&D, he'd be a fighter or paladin with a stupid high INT score and criminally low CHA. That's not to say he's a bad character (questionable life choices notwithstanding) but he's definitely a lot more early-Scooby "trapper" Fred than modern-era "Ken doll" Fred.
His brother Havok, on the other hand? Now THAT is a himbo. Just ask Madelyne Pryor >:)
You could also put Colossus in the student body for that good himbo energy. He is an artist, and has the soul of a poet, but he's not terribly eloquent since English is his second language.
*Wolverine* : X-Men Evolution made the right call...or half of it anyway. Logan isn't really the order-barking type; again, that's Scott. Logan is a rebel, a James Dean character, and he's been thrust into a position of responsibility. And out of the faculty of the Institute, if Logan is on staff, he will be the easiest person to get close to, as long as you're not a jerk. That said, you should totally get the option to be a jerk and mouth off to him for a bonus boss fight (you could also get this as a bonus if he likes you enough and you say you want a scrap). also, a big YAS to the return of my 5'3" short king!!!
*Storm* : This is my favorite fictional character of all time, and I would probably cry if I bought this game and she were not playable. The irony is, out of all the X-Men, she's one of only three who've been canonically, physically de-aged at least twice (the others being Charles and Erik). I could totally see her as a student, but specifically an eco-activist student, a Social Justice Warrior in the most positive sense of the term (yes, the X-Men are woke-ass SJWs, they've always been that way and people are deluding themselves if they think otherwise, and I LOVE THAT ABOUT THEM). Engaging with Ororo on the level of those causes would be a great way to unlock new side quests and get both a good X-Factor bond and an asbolutely BROKEN power set. To me, in a lot of ways, Storm IS the X-Men.
*Jean Grey* : All the stuff you said about her, being the "good student" like P5's Makoto and having a lot of empathy, is completely true and why I love her. That said, Jean's got more to her than just nearly dying. I would argue the more compelling part is her hidden id. She stays proper and demure and "good" because she's constantly repressing all the urges and desires everyone else has, because she's one of the strongest mutants alive. Jean is powerful enough to make her every desire a reality, even without the Phoenix. It would be so easy to reach out and change the minds of every bigot on Earth, to telekinetically crack open a bank vault and help herself to whatever's inside, to basically behave exactly like Emma Frost and go full "IDGAF" mode...except Jean Grey does GAF, and so she keeps it all locked up. Her X-Factor could be about either helping her keep a lid on that by finding healthy outlets for it, or encoraging her to give in and ditch the restraints she's built around herself...opening the door for Jean to develop some very dangerous tendencies.
*Nightcrawler* : Perfection. No notes. Well, just one note: Make sure he doesn't get too mopey. Kurt is great when he's warm and fun and jokey. He can be sad or bitter or dour sometimes, but those are the times when you know Things Are Bad And You Should Feel Bad, not his baseline. Otherwise, yes. Blue boyfriend material should 100% be in the game and would be a fantastic fast travel system, while also explaining why your party size is limited to 3 or 4 characters (Kurt can teleport a bunch of people a short distance, or himself and a few others a long distance, but he can't do both)
*Gambit* : Remy is a thief, and I feel he would play like one. His powers are loud and flashy and explosive, sure, but he himself probably moves like Joker (the P5 one, not the clown. Or the Persona 2 one). I'd imagine there'd be quite a few places Remy's skillset, more than his powers, would come in handy. You could take him with you and get like double the gold, or be able to open unopenable chests with him in the party (or if you raise your X-Factor with him enough to get his thieving skills, not a mutant power I know, but they'd be fun as heck to have).
*Rogue* : "Dolly Parton who can throw a tank at you" is my favorite description of Rogue ever and I am so stealing it. I was worried she'd be redundant, since power theft/power mimicry are kind of her main deal, but the flight/strength/toughness powerset gives her her own unique spot on the team, and frankly, I love Rogue as a short (she's only 5'6" if you discount the extra 2 feet of 80s hair) but sassy tank and bruiser.
*Emma Frost* : IMO, Emma works EXTREMELY well as a teacher, but I do think there's a place for her as both the incredibly intelligent overachiever AND the Mean Girl fashionista. She could be this game's Amity Blight (of Owl House fame), and if you know anything about that show, you know how popular Amity is. You could even give her a similar conflict, about how being pressured to be perfect can crack even the hardest of diamonds (seewhatIdidthere? :D). Making her more empathetic or making her even more of a witch-with-a-B could be the core dilemma with her X-Factor, and the decision might even impact which of her powers you'd copy (make Emma more empathetic and you get better telepathy, harden her and you get her diamond skin).
*Polaris* : A character who doesn't see NEARLY enough love outside of the comics. If you're going to keep Magneto as a bad guy, she should definitely be on the team so you can at least get the magnetic powerset. I could see Lorna transferring into the student body initially as a double agent, trying to find out where her father is after he was beaten (Xavier, being Xavier, knows but is not telling). Depending on the characterization of Magneto in this game, Polaris' X-Factor could play out any number of interesting ways, especially if she and the protagonist are in a relationship. Since I like a more heroic, freedom-fighter Magneto over a one-dimensional mustache-twirler, I'm more inclined to think Erik would be faster to make up with Charles if he knew his best-beloved daughter (sorry Wanda) had a significant other on the team.
*X-23* : Should not be romanceable. I know you're gunning for an "everyone can be dated" feel to the game, but Laura when she first breaks out of Weapon X is a very damaged girl, still struggling to know that there's life outside the hell she was born into. If there's a time skip in the game and she becomes more like her current 'Talon' incarnation, or even when she was Wolverine II, then perhaps, but not straight out the Weapon X gate.
*Magik* : The fact that you mentioned her alone makes me so happy. If she were a part of the student body? or better yet, a party member? FANTASTIC. Especially since she has such a strong tie with Limbo, and depending on the plot of the game, excursions to Limbo could be this game's equivalent to trips to Tartarus, the Midnight Channel, or Mementos. It could make her EXTREMELY important to the plot of the game, and give her a much cooler debut into the world of X-Men video games than whatever Midnight Sons tried to do. Also, in my head the protagonist gets a Soulsword of their very own if she likes them enough, and that is a customization nerd's DREAM. (also she can teleport more people than Nightcrawler. Just saiyan.)
I could also do write-ups on the other characters I'd want in the party - Iceman, Beast, M, Synch, Psylocke, Bishop, Cable, Moonstar, Cecilia Reyes, Jubilee, SCARLET WITCH, the list goes on forever - but I love the idea of this so very, very much.
Gameplay-wise, I'm a fan of the ATB gauge in theory, but in practice I always have it set on 'Wait', because I am not fast (it's why I play turn-based RPGs). But bringing back strategic placement of enemies and allies is great, and dual and triple techs are absolute genius. Chrono Trigger is my second favorite game of all time behind Final Fantasy VII, and the engaging combat system is a big part of that!
Don't worry about me being haunted. Persona is a fantastic series, and the formula of 3-5 lends itself perfectly to the X-Men, so I love this idea. Also, I'm in my 40s, the notion of a real X-Men RPG has already haunted me for longer than some TH-camrs have been alive. (X-Men Legends 1 & 2 were great, everyone should play them if they get a chance)
I do hate that this game doesn't exist, but that's on Marvel and Disney, not you.
…your username seems familiar…do I know u from somewhere??
oh my GOD the Emma Frost part didn't hit me until you mentioned the psychic-dialogue part. 😭
This is maybe one of the most self-indulgent videos you've ever done, and I loved every second of it.
The Emma Frost shit kills me; we all knew a white woman would be romancable somewhere if Marcus had creative control
Have you seen the porn parody one?
@@aimbotarrow5981not any white woman, though. a BLONDE white woman
Cosmonaut gives the vibe of an innocent side character of a show who ends up being master manipulator behind everything
Innocent? Any role that has Marcus as an “innocent” character is a gross miscast
@@PapaPerculesoof. Harsh but true.
@@sardoniclysane not at all an insult! It’s like when you see Dane DeHaan in a movie. You look at him and think to yourself “this mf is nefarious!”
You give off botted subs vibe. 10k subs with no vids and your account is 3 months old?
How much did you pay for them huh
Wow you are so funny and relatable hahaha.
Marcus literally describe Baldur's Gate 3 but X-Men and honestly I want this to be an actual thing now.
Amen!
the untapped potential of a game in the style of Baldur’s Gate 3 for the X Men lives in my head rent free
Larian games should have the IPs of all franchise that are in the limbo like Marvel
First Cosmonaut video in a while where he actually seems happy and enthusiastic about the video topic. I’m all for it
facts
because it's not something bad because it doesn't exist
He sounded so bored in his past videos I felt bad for him like he had burnout
X-Men: Legends was a solid game. I picture that with more RPG elements.
And the X-men arcade game is dope af… they should port that to all the new consoles or at least to the switch
X-men Legends but in the style of God Of War Ragnarok (over the shoulder) and a deeper character leveling system /skill tree + a semi-open world like Spiderman 2 (PS5).
exactly bro we spittin today
@@_Just_Another_Guy No X-Men game should ever be over the shoulder tf. We need full 3D centered characters.
9 months later and i still revisit this video as a form of self punishment
8:06 imagine suggesting that the strategizing Sokka wasn't the smartest member of the original Avatar gang
You had us sold at "everyone is bisexual" and we can make Emma Frost our girlfriend
(also the sped up 'toxic' violin over Rogue's ass 💀 every single time 😂😭)
Why?
@@ggt47 Everyone being bisexual caters to the comic book nerd fantasy to love Nightcrawler AND Emma Frost at the same time.
@@zhubwat The Yin and Yang of X-Men crushes
@@zhubwat that threesome would be insane need that on video
X-men ain't gay
Please make more videos like this, don’t think I’ve ever heard him this enthusiastic about a video
FRRRR. I love the energy of marcus in this video
The Clone Wars video comes close
@@aguywithalotofopinions412 I haven’t heard him that enthusiastic in awhile I mean. His older videos definitely have some real energy
The only issue I see is if you're building your character to be Psylocke (for example) and you have hang around her to fight like her...then basically you have two Psylocke's in your party which make it redundant. If the flip side is "well you gain Psylocke's ability in the social aspect, but you can use who ever you want in your party", well... I love Psylocke, that's why I chose to be like her. Now I can't use her in my party because I'm basically replacing her.
I think a way to fix this is the teacher/student system. You choose your trains from the teachers, but party with the students. A teacher can dungeon dive with you, but in a non-playable sort of way that RPGs like to do (like a companion or escort). There are enough mutants that have similar powersets that you can build anyone you want to, so you don't have to worry about being locked out of a power-tree because so-and-so is a either a teacher or a student.
Just my thought...on a game that will never happen.
Here is an easy fix. You get her ability, but you can select if you would use it or not. I don't like Cyclops, so I bond with him, get his laser and never call him to be in my party.
I honestly don’t like the “power contamination” thing. It’s tooo much like Rogue and I don’t like feeling like a godlike chosen one in games. but I was also considering similar issues to yours.
There should be skill trees and players should have lots of customization of the main character mutant OR I would make an MC that has voice lines, one set of powers, and a bangin’ voice actor.
The copy powers we could get should be bonuses to specific attributes, team attacks, special passives, or tweaks to our own powers - not simply absorbing other mutants powers. For example, let’s say your MC has super strength. Logan’s skill enhancements would involve cqc, fastball special, critical percentage, health regen, just to name a few. BUT let’s say you want heath regen and no cqc. You wanna be a tank. You don’t have to take the crit or cqc bonus because there’s limited power slots. Then you could take psychic resistance from Emma Frost or something. Energy resistance from Cyclops etc.
The abilities would be based off of the mutants, not whole sale copying them.
I’m bummed this video isn’t doing well cause I love when Marcus gives us outside the box content. I love your videos Marcus
i’d like to imagine while you’re upping your relationship with wolverine, an already daunting task since it requires specific high stats, you become a higher target for Deadpool to kill. Maybe he attacks you at random points in the game and you’re left by yourself to fight him. and he’s like, actually a challenge. maybe logan could chime in to help once you reach a closer relationship status with him.
i’d also like to think if deadpool were the merchant, he’d be really passive-aggressive if your character is with wolverine. like, if you buy some equipment Deadpool would say some smart ass remark like: “yeah, yeah, good choice, definitely gonna need it soon! what? i didn’t say anything…”
and this game has to have cameo side quests right? like, i need a spider-man and wolverine side quest where they get on each other’s nerves. and maybe after you finish the spider-man quest, you see a subtle easter egg of peter parker publishing pro-mutant pictures for the daily bugle, improving mutant-social image.
screw you marcus for making me have fun dreaming of this shit for a non-existent game :)
KEEP COOKING🔥🔥🔥
The worst part about this curse is that people are adding their thoughts to the pile and vicariously making it worse the longer that this video stays up
Well played, Marcus
Bruh living in a house together, social links, combo special moves, area of effect abilities, environment exploration - PLAY MIDNIGHT SUNS
The day night cycle and strong focus on social life reminds me of midnight suns. With the day cycle being some type of mission and night being time to hangout and strengthen bonds which effects the gameplay through new moves and cosmetics. The addition of constant reward and growth of my team every night after a mission kept the loop fun and addicting. I think something like that with X-men with a more action oriented system like ultimate alliance would be an awesome game!
You should make this a series. Just random ideas of "could be" games or even movies/shows that you have talked about on stream or friends in your personal life. That is such a fun idea and cool concept. 😃
Nakey Jakey has done this. The series is called games that should bang.
@@pedr0pabl014 NakeyJakey came up with some cool ideas. I loved Rap Reviews too.
@@pedr0pabl014 Yup, I've seen his as well. Sometimes it's cool to see different creators express they're opinions on the subject 👍
The last thing about the psychic character that can see the dialogue options, I feel that if that was a thing, there could be a little dialogue when you hover over one of the options. Let’s say you hover over a flirty option and then they respond before you even pick it with something appropriate to their character. Let’s say you talk with Jean grey and hover over a more sad dialogue option she gives you some positive vibes
If you avoid hovering over the options all the time they'll chide you for being distant and keeping your mind blank mid-conversation to protect yourself
If you keep going between different options they'll remark on you being conflicted and indecisive
You have no choice but to quickly and authentically move through their conversations
I hate this idea and I love it
And if you have enough psychic power you can catch them off guard with what you say making them like you more or something
Or if you hover over the romance option and you have low x-Factor with them, they could shake their heads but if it's high they'll smile at you
TBH this idea was probably the most innovative gameplay thing I've heard in a LONG time, and you should just focus on pitching a game with THAT first. Nobody gets to make their dream project on the FIRST go. Well, mostly. Look at all the heavy hitters' first games... Marathon (ironic), Crash Bandicoot (also ironic bc it's like a thing again?), FromSoftware made like King's Field and then a million AC games before Demon's Souls... Final Fantasy is named as such bc they thought it was their last game, and now we're up to 16 plus a million spin-off things and remake / remasters. Just food for thought 😃
and if the Player is psychic themselves the dialogue could more meta and weird.
I love your enthusiasm in this video. Please keep making these kinds of vids where I can tell you had a good time! Marcus happy makes me happy
I think this might just be Midnight Suns, but swapping chrono trigger gameplay for xcom
I feel like this is the weirdest breath of fresh air in a minute, just binged a ton of reviews and picture shows but this is the first outside content in a while, it’s glorious
Yes,some new and original and not a trendy product.
He made dnd videos in the past but that didnt get much views so he puts it on patreon
X-Men Legends is a super underrated game. I think there's a lot of cool details, like how if you level up your strength your character can pick up and throw bigger objects in the environment. Or how most of your characters have powers that work the way you expect them to, like, some people can just fly, even if that means they can skip huge areas. Also The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants are at their absolute gooniest. Game was just fun as hell.
Dude yes! I have fond memories of playing Xmen legends 2 growing up. Played it earlier this year, still holds up!
X-Men Legends ran so Marvel Ultimate Alliance could walk
This is it, both are the best x-men games out there and probably one of the best superhero games ever.
Also google Marvel Ultimate Alliance mods. The PC version can be freely (and legally) downloaded. Normally the roster of characters is decent, but people have made mods to add literally everyone from the Marvel Universe, even up to modern Krakoan era. Extremely refreshing and scratches that itch for a modern X-men RPG.
That game was my shit back in the day, brutally hard for a 10 year old though. I was stuck on the first boss for what felt like an eternity
My love for Rogue alone makes this video and all efforts to make the game happen, totally worth it. ⚡️🌷
Honestly, I think Scott would be perfect having his X-Men Evolution personality, bc i don't really think he works as a himbo, that's Colossus's job lmao
Havoc works better as a himbo
Colossus ain't a himbo, he just sounds like one bc he's russian.
There are so many of these elements that are alive and well in Marvel's Midnight Suns. It isn't exclusively x-men, but there are: companionship mechanics, combo attacks, an interesting combat system that lets you set up attacks between other heroes, and so much more. That game came out less than a year ago and it's so insane that it just didn't get the love it needed.
It's probably because it's a tactical game, that's probably it
THIS!!
The only reason I haven't tried it out is because I kept hearing about its writing not being very good despite the game featuring lots of dialogue.
It's mostly just dependent on who you talk to in the game. A lot of avengers in the game are written with Whedonisms at the forefront. Although, the fact that any dialog in a firaxis game is good at all is an achievement in itself
@roviH I'd consider it more campy than bad, personally. Characters like Blade and Wolverine talking about how cool you are or how comfortable they are opening up to you is schmaltzy, but if you go into the game seeing it as like half tactical turn based combat, half dating simulator, the dialogue is easier to laugh with rather than laugh at.
Plus Michael Jai White as Blade giving those kinda lines is awesome. Dy-no-mite, Dy-no-mite.
@@RandomTask5263 MICHAEL JAI WHITE IS BLADE? Alright I'm getting the game. I miss Black Dynamite, man.
After the Midnight Suns game made Magik so cool and romance-worthy only to reveal you can only befriend each character, I would love to see her included as romancable character.
I'm glad that I'm not alone in feeling like Magik's route feels distinct from the others. Friendships with Doctor Strange, Iron Man, or Spider-Man feel very friendly but wholly platonic, but there's a genuinely keen intimacy with Magik that isn't there for the others. Firaxis pls gib romance DLC
I agree with you so much! That game made me into a Magik fan, and I've since looked into her in the comics and have not been disappointed.
I agree. I got the sense form early interviews that Firaxis maybe wanted to include romance but Marvel said no, which makes me wonder if maybe they had already been working on Magik's romance before they got that note and just left it as-is.
Problem with Magik is that even in comics for god sake 40+ years of her character history, she has ZERO romance. Zero as a 15 years old teen. Zero as a hot 20+ years old chick
she fell like a bisexuel girl for me
Sooo I’m going into game development and have been on the lookout for a indie game idea for my first game. While this a little ambitious for a first game I’m adding this to my list of future game ideas. I will see this game made.
This sounds like such a sick idea. Pls do a part 2!!
A lot of what you described was kind of done in Midnight Suns recently. Not 1-to-1 but I still really enjoyed the parts you described that was used in that game (like friendship levels and going on missions and choosing a team), and I know a lot of that community would really like an X-Men sequel (since half the characters are already mutants), so you're definitely not alone there. I especially would like if the social role you described played a larger role than it does in Midnight Suns and being able to build deeper bonds than just "oh we're close friends now" would be really nice.
Also for anyone reading this who hasn't heard of Midnight Suns take a look at it, it's a very cool game and I'm sad not many people know about it. But also make an X-Men version like Marcus described Fireaxis please.
I thought the same thing, this is a slightly tweaked Midnight Suns
Right, wanting a new Marvel game but ignoring the latest Marvel game with multiple X-Men and RPG elements is wild
This video actually got me thinking "oh yeah, I wanted to try midnight suns." It was on sale and basically every free moment of the past 2 weeks has been spent playing it
Wasn’t there literally a planned, but scrapped dating mechanic for that game??
I was thinking this. 😂 It’s pretty close. I personally loved Midnight suns. I liked getting close to Magik and her opening up to me. I would love to be able to romance them. I think Midnight Suns deserves more recognition. It was a really fun game.
Charlie's Deadpool cameo was everything I've ever wanted
Apart from the character creation aspect, you've described X-Men legends.
Awesome video! Using this concept for my next D&D campaign.
My proposal to this collective mind goblin is as follows: in the later half of the game some of Jean Grey's skills change or just outright vanish without explanation, but these are skills only unlocked with a high social link so unless you get to know Jean very closely you aren't likely to notice anything different. Then after a major story beat or so either the nameless protagonist or Scott notice something off about Jean, depending on your social link with her. She's been replaced with Madeline Pryor! Now to rescue the real Jean you need to find Mr. Sinister, cue morlocks and chimera mutants, and imply that this whole ordeal was just so Sinister can see the protags copying powers in person.
Oh I thought you were gonna mention the Phoenix Force lol
That kind of skill change swap has been done. The one in Dragon Quest XI handled it pretty well when 2 separate characters ended up combining their skill trees at the second hald of the game and then separated it again during post-game.
I need 2 things now:
1.) For this game to exist, developed by Cosmonaut Studios
2.) For more of this kind of video. It gives a lot of what the Rise of Skywalker video had, which is a compliment.
YOOOOO new thumbnail is gas actually
Loved that you used a clip of Keke Palmer Rogue when you were talking about your ideal Rogue for the vidja game
Elon really killed Twitter to prevent this game from happening
Twitter is still alive and well.
@@TrivedijiGamesIt's alive, not sure about well though
What a nice wholesome video of him just talking about something he can’t really get sick of and likes.
Yes,that last time we had a wholesome video little to no complaints was...the lord of the rings? So nearly 7 months ago half a year.
the children long for X-Men Legends
I always thought a Mass Effect style X-Men game might also work, if you want it to be with older characters
I literally just started reading X-Men comics because of you and I can’t describe to you the emotional rollercoaster of “oh my god, new Cosmonaut X-Men video! What are the odds!” to “this video was created specifically to haunt me as a punishment for making everyone in my life hear about nothing but the X-Men for days”
I actually have a bit of an idea regarding the teachers being used in combat: Essentially make your team build have a numerical limit, that would go up as the game progresses (logic being after successful missions Xavier or Logan say "oh youve completed more missions on your own, youre clear to lead stronger squads next time"), and make the teachers super strong, but cost a lot with the additional caveat you can only bring one at a time. So as an example, lets say the team cost limit is 10, and you decide you want to bring Wolverine, Cyclops, and Phoenix but Logan bumps up your team limit to much. You can then either chose to go without him and find someone else for a full squad of 4, or take just Scott and Logan and have a risk factor in that youre down a man, but Logan can compensate for 2 characters.
How about this? Teachers could use a lot of MP/AP so they can perform far fewer strong attacks/special abilities than you and fellow student party members each night.
So you can bring a teacher into a full party but bringing any more than one would be unwise because the more teachers you have, the fewer strong attacks you have.
It’s like when you have a super OP Persona from the DLC *_(ahem… Izanagi-no-Okami Picaro)_* and use their strongest ability *_(Myriad Truths)_* which kills all the enemies but just used up half of your MP bar. So you have to level up before you can effectively use it.
In the teachers’ case, my idea is that you can bring one teacher in at a time and slowly increase their levels/bond/x-factor with you (therefore increasing their MP or decreasing their skill cost) so they become more efficient and valuable to the party.
At the start, they’re sort of like a weight on your party. But once you level them up, they’re your strongest party member. Then, picture this. Once you’ve done this with several teachers one-at-a-time, by late game, you’re facing the final dungeon with *Storm, Beast, and the Wolverine!*
What a great video, I hope more people see this video in their recommended feed
This video is AWESOME! It’s also pushing me to read more X-Men comics! I’ve only read the Dark Phoenix Saga and God Loves, Man Kills, but now I feel a compulsion to read more!
I swear to god they need to start making more X-men games. Like I know we are getting Wolverine but I mean a full on X-men game. It’d be fun like some X-men mmo game since it could fit.
We just need a good marvel game period.
@@nate6045wdym by that???? Elaborate 🤨🤨🤨🤨
@@nate6045I mean, we’ve been getting quite a few, what with Insomniac’s Spider-Man games and Ultimate Alliance 3, for example.
@@thegumonyourshoesdon't forget Guardians of the Galaxy!
@thegumonyourshoes8233 Spider-man is just Prototype except not as cool. I will die on this hill.
I have never been gaslit to mourn a cancelled video game that never existed like this well done lol.
This sounds absolutely phenomenal, and it’s just so impressive how creative you guys were with ideas and fitting the puzzle pieces together.
Random idea. But the DLC could be a flashback where you play as Professor X meeting Magneto for the first time, and the two team up to go fight Nazi doctors kidnapping and experimenting on mutants. The final boss being Mr. Sinister, of course.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind more videos like this
Marcus, did you play the two X-men Legends games from the early 2000's?
The game play is surprisingly deep and customizable and it's so cool making an OP squad of Xmen to tear things up. The sequel is even better.
Rented both of those and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 as a kid. Loved 'em.
I thought thats what this video was gonna touch on but Those games were my childhood and I still desperately wish they would remaster them!!
Those games were so good. My aunt bought me the second one when I was really sick as a young teen, spend days in bed just playing it. So goooood
Legitimately the best X-Men games
Unfortunately they haven’t been updated for modern consoles yet
The profound para-social influence you've had on my life by getting me into D&D and now by haunting my brain for eternity with this game.
Thank you Cosmonaut Marcus, your influence will not go unnoticed.
No role modelz
I got an ad with fantastic comedic timing with the x-bond search bit
I think someone like Nimrod the sentinel would fit great as the secret super-boss that RPGs always have.
What about Juggernaut?
@@johnnygyro2295 I feel that a character like Juggernaut is more likely to factor into the main story, and doesn't have that "powerful thing appears out of nowhere" quality that secret RPG superbosses usually have.
@@sirlordcapybara801 Juggernaut is absolutely the "powerful guy who appears out of nowhere" type. He's probably the best example of it in the Marvel universe!! Dude's fought every major superhero at this point, not just the X-Men. There's been multiple comics where he's just been...conveniently teleported to the location of another hero and just immediately decided to throw down because, well, that's what he does. Having him be a bonus boss that just randomly bursts through a wall like the Kool-Aid Man would be a perfect way to utilize him.
The original X-Men Legends is the closest any game came to even a part of this idea at all, but it didn't do a social aspect nearly this deep. Still, it tried as much as it could for its time and it did let you explore the mansion and talk to a lot of the characters as well as play some flashback missions from the team's past. This game Cosmonaut thought up is something I'd play without a second thought because it sounds so much fun!
I think for party selection for the combat part, 5 characters would work best. You, three other student characters, and 1 teacher character present as the chaperone for these dangerous field trip. The teacher characters also start out stronger than the student characters but level up less, diegetically representing their having more experience as X-Men, while also game-play wise giving you a powerful character if you need it but incentivizing you to focus on growing the students to become ultimately more powerful (similar dynamic to pre-promoted older characters you get in Fire Emblem)
Also, I love the combo attack idea you presented, it's basically the Fusion Attack from Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 and more games should have it
good idea
Too many people. Would make the party OP.
@@capybaraRedno it wouldn’t, just balance the game around 5 party members.
Tons of Dungeon Crawling RPGs are based around 5 members, if not more.
That's a really cool idea! And you could do a thing later in the game where the school is attacked and the teachers aretaken out of commission so now the students are on their own for a mission.
@@velemamba260 that would be a good opportunity for growth and character development
Insomniac leak
Xmen game coming in 2030!
Bro described X-Men Legends with a dating sim and didn’t mention X-Men Legends once that is so funny
Marcus, you should make more videos like this, just you pitching us an idea you had or just you talking about something you like.
These are always my favorites
You should try out Marvel Midnight Suns. It's not an X-Men game persay but with half a dozen X-Men in it it's the closest we'll get to for a while
It’s also turn based drivel.
@@sardoniclysane so is persona like he mentioned in the video...
@@sardoniclysane Smoothbrained take
@@sardoniclysane I'll never understand the aversion people have to turn based games lol. Do you have no patience at all?
@@acidrain92 what happen to the happy beat em ups where you don't only stay still 😂😂😂
This man is really on a mission. May the world remember him.
DUDE! I'VE DREAMED OF THIS ALL MY LIFE!!
After playing Disco Elysium I also think there’s so much potential with writing the character you play as to truly make it feel like a “Role” Playing Game.
How does your character feel about their mutant ability? If your character is basically a chameleon who only takes other people’s abilities- how do they handle that when it comes to their identity? How do other characters react to your abilities and how does your relationship change based on what you do with those people?
One thing we could do is make Rogue’s ability on you specifically wear off over time the more you spend time with her- like hear me out. Metaphorically and literally you can be able to slowly allow her to actually interact with a person that won’t just straight up die when she touches them for too long- but it can only happen after you’ve had a lot of exposure to her ability and both opened up to each other. And it could culminate to a point where she realizes she can actually touch your face without completely draining you of life- and you get to see the tears of joy rush from her face from the years of just being unable to really be held or hold someone she deeply cares about…
And have that depth with EVERY character- whether it be romantic, with powerful built friendships or even.. using pure distain. All depending on who you want to be and who that character really is.
Not only that but based on what you do, characters can go on their own character arcs and become entirely different in the end. In one play though a character can genuinely become your enemy, in another they can become someone you deeply love.
I don’t know, just an idea.
There's actually a, uh, admittedly overtly smutty game that is basically just a much hornier version of the scenario you described for Rogue, it's called Roguelike: Evolution, and features the X-Men evolution design for her. I definitely only know about it for, uh, research purposes
I also really hope the main character isn’t just a blank slate and _is_ an actual storied character, I hate it when games are written with no intended character in the specific options, just neutrally what the player might want.
@@whyiwakeup6460 oh yeah I agree- that’s why I really love Disco Elysium. You choose how the character grows- like it’s literally about choosing what kind of man you’ll be. That’s what I’d want for this game. Like everyone will have a different character by the end of the game physically and mentally.
@@chimedemon exactly :)
Honestly just taking out the turn based combat and go full on stealth tactics, all out combat or something would be better for this game. Hell making it part fighting game makes more sense since the main draw should be the interactions and the story with the combat serving as fun breaks to put those bonds your making to guest test since most of the villains you'd fight wouldn't be sending armies after you sans say the Sentinals, couple of mutant hate groups and maybe a couple Weapon X facilities with clones or cyborgs but stuff with the Brotherhood or Genoshia should be all just boss fights in general.
Having different gameplay options and styles could give someone the chance to play the game much differently and craft a more personal experience then just turn based combat. Maybe something like Shattered Dimensions where each Spider Man had their own gameplay gimmicks but even more so to give a more unique feel since just throwing random mooks at you would feel cheap. Some of the fights should be like that or maybe even musou game combat but more should feel like genuine action combat, maybe even in the style of Asura's Wrath.
I never even thought of Deadpool as a gun vendor before. That’d be hilarious to hear his insane ramblings about guns. And it’s a funny way to keep him as a D lister.
15:28 Black Sigil: Blade of the Exiled for the DS tried some of this battle system. They have area attacks, line and combo attacks with the other players. It has it’s problems, but over all a really good experience in gameplay for those who like and miss (and don’t understand where the clones of this battle system are) Crono Trigger.
I’m so glad you changed the thumbnail man
Photography side quest where you have to go to key locations and take photos of them from certain angles and then give them to Nightcrawler so that he can teleport you there, thus unlocking the fast travel. Also you have to work out the exact spot that would be safest for him to teleport to, and if you give him photos of a dodgy area he gets irritated and if you continue to do it it worsens your relationship with him until it unlocks a side quest where Kurt starts thinking that you're trying to kill him or something and you need to fix that and that can open up a potential enemies-to-lovers relationship arc idk lol (you can still romance him without all of this but this is the far more interesting route)
Some of this game exists, or at least existed. X-Men Legends 1 and 2 had some of these elements to an extent, and the gameplay was really solid (and served as the basis for Marvel Ultimate Alliance)
Pretty surprised it wasn’t mentioned in the beginning
I've been looking for a comment like this for a while. I felt like I was the only one who remembered them for a quick minute. He's describing X-Men Legends with a social aspect, essentially. Those games were fantastic. I'd love a reboot like this.
I'm with ye guys! There's no character creation, but the school and the missions he described is the same as X-Men Legends. I loved that game
Bet he hasn’t even heard of x men legends or he forgot to talk about it. CVH has a reputation for doing shit like that 😂
I'll keep on rewatching it everyday to help the cause
Dude I was following along. When you mentioned the way to shut down or select love interests, and then CHRONO TRIGGER COMBAT? Screw you man. I need this.
Emma Frost was my first-ever fictional character crush; seeing such a powerful comic book woman express her sexuality while still being a BAMF really _spoke_ to young Amber (in multiple ways 😊). Her X-Factor enhancement would definitely increase your confidence stat in the RPG, if not as a side-effect of her main stat bonus. Dating her would also be a 15+ year dream come true! 😅
Cosmonaut, you make me angry this game does not exist. Thank you!
Marcus.
Have you played X-Men Legends? It's like, KIND of what you've described. They're pretty good beat-em up with RPG elements with leveling, where you get a roster of 4 X-men you can swap between, you're based in the X-Mansion or various X-Men locations, they have tons of Easter Eggs, and honestly it's probably the closest you'll find currently to an X-Men game you've described.
They've got X-Men Legends, X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse, and then Marvel: Ultimate Alliance and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance II were of the same vein/system. It's the closest I've experienced to capturing the feeling of being a child of the atom. Plus I'm sure you'll love the voice acting. Highly recommend if you haven't played them!
One of the greatest games I've ever played
THANK YOU. I felt like I was going insane because he kept describing this hypothetical game and it's literally just X-Men Legends. If they ever made an X-Men Legends III, I think the social stuff can be incorporated
This is a fantastic idea 🙌
I’m not sure if you’ve heard of it, but the RPG “Indivisible” is a great place to look for examples of the type of combat that would work really well for this game
You could spend the first half getting a techer going in missions with you. You know, an overleveled, well-suited character for the dungeon. And then when the story advances, the students get into a dangerous situation with no teacher and then they become actual X-Men.
You have no idea the huge sigh of relief I breathed when you mentioned Magik. I am *desperate* for a good rpg with her as a playable character.
There was a good Diablo clone called Marvel Heroes, but they shut it down.
She belongs in Dragon Age.
she's in midnight suns. great game btw
@@derppool is it? cause most reviews i've seen/heard of it says it's lukewarm at best.
@@mikealgiers7852 a lot of the detractors for the game expected something else entirely. Its pretty enjoyable across most of the core gameplay elements and the writing really warms up further in.
I personally love the downtime between missions to chat and do activities with the cast
Watching this video, my heart aches for Marcus. I hope that they make you your X-men game it sounds awesome
This sounds incredible,At this stage how have we not gotten an X-Men game similar to this!!!!!....Especially with all the Harry Potter and generic High schooler game's we have gotten
Just in general we need a superhero JRPG. Building a team, leveling them up, fighting big bosses, exploring a world. Many superhero genres would work with the JRPG genre it’s crazy. Plus it would be a breath of fresh air from the fantasy genre the JRPGs are always associated with
It would be cool if the OG members (Scott, Jean, Bobby, Beast, Angel, plus Storm), were the teachers and youre classmates are the characters who are typically portrayed as younger.
It seems he's taking moreso from Ultimate where most were teenagers, X-Men is very wonky with its ages
A few additions I would personally make:
1. Getting to a high enough social ranking with your various allies gives you the option to bring them in as party members. You'd need to tweak the combat system to allow for such combinations but I think also finding people who bounce off one another would be great.
2. You have a core party of characters who are your closest allies and who are more integral to the plot. Maybe in the event of plots significant to them you are forced to have them in your party for key scenes.
3. I think of the core party would consist of 10 students with maybe 3 teachers who get directly involved. I think going off of yours and expanding a bit you have your protagonist, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Nightcrawler, Emma Frost, Gambit, Rogue, X-23, Jubilee, and Angel/Archangel. The teachers who actually fight and stuff include obviously Wolverine, but also Colossus and Storm.
4. The core plot I think would revolve around the activities of the Mutant Brotherhood and subsequently the world response to them resulting in stronger restrictions and eventually the Sentinels being unleashed. I think the sentinels being the big bads of this makes the most sense considering regardless of how evil the other mutants may be these things are designed to completely eradicate mutantkind and destroy the normal lives you've worked to build, similar to how Persona always has a world ending threat that you actually care about because it will destroy you and your friends more than anything.
Would be great to have a midnight suns style xmen game, perhaps with a bit more free roam and puzzle solving (using right characters abilities to get to past specific challenges).