I am SOOOOOOO glad somebody is finally mentioning this! There are so many reasons why it's better to shoot horizontally first, and coming from a graphic design background, it also works SO much better to have horizontal still images to start with (lots of cropping and layout options, and a lot of commercial photographers who know how to create images that look good with TEXT laid over top of them almost always shoot horizontally. You can actually look at the history of STOCK photography and see a lot of places stopped shooting vertical shots sometime back in the 90s, etc.)
That's for photography, makes sense. But for video? The channel for which you're creating the content should inform your choice on whether to shoot vertical or horizontal. I lose nothing by just rotating my camera and shooting, if it's for reels or stories.
@@NzeMwami Hi! Sorry if I made it sound like I believe everybody should only shoot horizontally...In my situation, I'd just want to shoot both (by using 2 cameras on 1 camera cage) because I'd like to be able to use the content to publish on the news, Netflix, and on other platforms as well, so "think big" is what I'm saying...because you never know when your story can be really helpful out there (and you'd hate it if it gets published and they have to put it on TV with blurry edges, on left and right, if you know what I'm saying)
He at the same time explain what are also the difficulties which are not complex but does not apply to everyone (begginers) like framing which I think it's obviously super super important
The psychology of your thinking is brilliant and really helped settle the anxiety I have between vertical vs. horizontal for me. Now I just need to train myself to not shoot so tight when I'm filming horizontal. That's gonna take a little time. Thanks for the video!
I feel that exactly same. I've been filming for years now but still stuggle at times. But I will say that I have always filmed Horizontal videos first. My struggle is trying to then make sure that my vertical videos still comes out beautifully.
he shouldn't have. it's not that simple. if the camera can shoot 16:9 it's downsampling, which will result in a higher resolution than a crop. it's also taking benefit of the full lens, which helps with depth of field, bokeh, and other things that lenses offer around the edges
That tip about the thirds to make sure they footage is all available when cropping is super useful, I think I’ll try that since I have some ideas to create vertical videos but don’t want to shoot vertical. This will help me to get this video made!!
One extra tip when converting horizontal footage that doesn’t fit the frame is to have it zoom or pan. Since the camera is moving it makes the shot feel larger. It won’t work for everything but it’ll work great for a lot of situations
It might work but sometimes shooting vertical gives us more shallow depth of field in background, shooting horizontal means you have to get wide or step away and it will give you less depth.
(I posted this same information above) "This will also depend on which lens (and aperture) and camera (sensor size) you're using. With smaller sensors (especially a cell phone) you will struggle to be able to blur out the background because of the lens-sensor relationship (which is why the iPhone has "cinema mode" where it uses AI to find the edges and artificially blur the background. On larger sensor cameras, especially with wider aperture lenses, you have the option of creating background blur. It also depends on the focal length of the lens, i.e. longer/more TELEPHOTO lenses can generally blur the background more, but it's true that it means you'll have to be further from a subject to frame them horizontally...but I prefer to not be TOO close when framing a PERSON, because (especially with a WIDE ANGLE lens) it can cause distortion of their features (long arms, bigger nose, etc.)" However, I almost always shoot with 2 cameras (WIDE & TIGHT shots) at the same time so there isn't any issues with not getting the shot I need!
This is exactly why not shooting videos like you're an Island Twin is better. Because it keeps you guys from shooting everything with maximum *tOneH!*🤌
As professional Instagram Content Manager, my team strictly only shoot 4k vertically. Framing horizontal video does not work because we only can use maximum full frame 35mm lens and nothing below that before everything on the edge is getting distorted aka fisheye effect and the product look wrapped and unnatural. We shoot a lot of indoors too that’s why we often do not have enough camera distance to get center horizontal framing. Also things to consider that your vertical frame got eaten by caption etc when uploading to Instagram, so your bottom part of the frame is already useless. So, I think different needs require different solution, rather than one fits all. Ps: we shot for fashion product (women shoes)
@@user-xq3nq2pf3r this is good info to give to unknowing people. It's a comment section where there is no such thing as asking for advice. Please be more curious than combative when commenting.
This video is sooooo NECESSARY!! I recently recorded a video vertically and regretted it afterwards. I wanted to uploaded it to TH-cam, which I still can… it’s just that I wanted to keep it consistent with other uploads. Your tips were golden! And glad I came across it!
For content I know will be delivered vertically only, I prefer shooting vertically. Makes my framing better when I shoot and know will be delivered vertically. One advantage you forgot to mention about shooting vertically for vertical delivery is that you get shallower depth of field - you move closer to your subject or zoom in more vs shooting from further away and cropping in. Don't get me wrong, most times I do shoot horizontal and crop for vertical, but if I know the content will only be used on Social, I just shoot vertical. It's simple.
You're so on point!! As a video editor, I am constantly struggling with camera decisions and client choices. Contents are usually generated that are adaptable to all formats, but there's always the opportunity where something was shot exclusively vertically and then the client decides they want a TH-cam version. So, shooting horizontally and wide is definitely the best option to avoid future headaches.
Afraid I have to disagree (at least for some applications). If you’re shooting content for specifically a vertical output then I always find shooting vertical significantly better. It’s easier to frame and most importantly you don’t need an ultra wide angle lens to crop into a 9:16 from a horizontal image for a good frame. You also get the whole sensor for bokeh and any lens character you might want. But if you’re not sure the output or need mixed resolutions then 16:9 is best.
I am seeing it more for long form videos now too and I dont hate it. If your shooting a review in your bedroom and you dont have that glamorous booktubers bookcase etc and want people to listen to you and not explore/judge your living space then I think it works nicely. Or is that weird? @@milugar316
People complaining about how this is too much work just don’t get it. You guys can’t expect more output without putting in the work. Yeah, verticals are here to stay but crossposting is a huge deal for SERIOUS full time content creators. If you don’t want the hassle in post processing, then go ahead and shoot your videos twice in vertical and horizontal 😂 Anyway, great video Anthony! Really helpful.
I feel like such a dummy. This makes so much sense especially when coming from a background in graphic design where bigger and more DPI is better. I’m sitting here trying to find a way to shoot with two cameras when all I need is one. Thank you so much for this! You got a subscriber out of me.
Hi Steve, I saw your comment, and because I'm a former graphic designer too (20 years or so) I wanted to say thank you for your comment and add some more reasons to why I think it is SO much better to start with a Horizontal shot. I'm into being more productive and saving time, money, so a lot of these are based on that approach: 1. You create content that can be used either horizontally OR vertically, later (you can't shoot vertical and go the other way) 2. In graphic design, I always preferred images that were horizontal to start, because they gave me a lot more layout options (magazine double-spreads, placing text over images...these are all way easier with horizontal footage)., 3. Pulling stills from video is much easier with horizontal footage (I use video for PORTRAITS and love it, also see graphic design info above) Lots more I could say, but I think it's probably stuff you already know, ha, ha!
Another reason i shoot only in 16:9 is that our videos have to be delivered in multiple aspect ratios for different platforms. Don’t forget 1:1, 4:5 and yes even 16:9. The same video MUST work in these different formats. So, 16:9 it is.
Makes sense if you are doing this professionally. But for a casual user, it's more time to edit, more skills to learn and larger files to store. I think that vertical videos are here to stay.
I hardly doubt vertical videos are here to stay. Phones are already trying to shift to a more squared resolution. And vertical video, if we take human biology in consideration, makes no sense since our eyes are aligned horizontally. The only reason vertical is trends nowadays is because of the way we hold our devices right now. I would bet in 20 years vertical videos will be mostly gone. Many resolutions have gone outdated in the past, this will only be another one.
@@unclebob8419 who knows... In a few years we may have gadgets like google glass returning and coming to the big crowd or even holographic images being displayed out of a new device. Hard to tell.
Shooting 4K vertically and rendering it to 1080 will get you wayy better image quality... plus more post-production possibilities. Yeah you can use shortcuts just to make it easier for yourself but it will always come with compromises🙏
This is why I hope that open gate recording becomes more industry standard like on the panasonic cameras. I have to get 16x9, 9x16 and 1x1 edits out of my videos for my job and it sucks to have to make such a massive crop. Allowing for more space in your framing is good but not great and I find that the more I have to crop, the less often I'm excited about the framing of my shots and how they turn out.
Yeah it’s a challenge, but you bring up a good point. For most of our videos that are cropped vertically, they also need to come in other aspect ratios. 5:4, 1:1, 9:16 and 16:9. So obviously it has to be shot in 16:9, but cropping and reframing isn’t always fun. Tbh I’m not a fan of the 9:16 aspect ratio visually, I just use it because I have to.
Super pleased a video discussing this has been recommended to me! I get quite overwhelmed sometimes having to shoot in multiple different orientations just so I can get footage for my vlogs on TH-cam or reels on Instagram & Tiktok. It is nice to see that I can save time and reuse the same footage instead of redoing it vertically! :)
This is brilliant. Remembering to shoot content in both vertical and horizontal positions is rather exhausting, so I'm looking forward to giving this a go with shooting horizontally for everything! Amazing video dude!
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if you shoot horizontally, you have to go a little further away from the subject to fit it in the Center of the frame. If the subject is further away from the camera, you have less blur in the background. This is the main downside of shooting horizontally. But please correct me if I’m wrong! I’m actually hoping to be wrong 😂
@@motheuser You clearly have no idea what he is talking about. Yes, you can step back, but it will affect bokeh and how it looks (background will be less blurry). Something to keep in mind when look of the shot is important.
horizontal always! the only time I go vertical is when I want that "raw cell phone" look or I know I'll cover the topic again in a more evergreen horizontal video 😌
I kinda thought this was bad advice, till you got to the future proofing your videos part, and that actually makes a ton of sense. Wish more camera companies used the whole sensor or 4:3 sensors to help with framing options for both 9:16 and 16:9. Great video as always.
Great video! I had a few thoughts throughout as someone who films about 50/50 vertical and horizontal. I feel like instead stating that people should stop shooting vertical video, it's better to state that videographers should stop shooting without intention. Film for the primary platform, and plan on doing some creative workshopping for the other orientation. If your end platform is vertical, film vertically in 4k. Just like how many filmmakers film in 4k horizontal and upload in HD, having that larger resolution to work with gives you a lot of flexibility in edits. Work with your clients and consider your platform/audience before shooting so you can plan and shoot with intention. Filming horizontally in 4K does give you a vertical frame that works in HD, but you lose the ability to zoom in without quality loss, which can be rough in edits considering you have to film wider to make the horizontal shot work for vertical framing. This method definitely works for your platform and purposes, but it doesn't apply to everyone. Vertical videos can be repurposed in just as many ways as a horizontal. So, if you find yourself needing to present your vertically filmed video in a horizontal format / platform, there are plenty of creative ways to crop, overlay, split screen, etc. footage to make it work. Just like how there are creative ways to use horizontal video in a vertical format. There's also a misconception that vertical videos can't be used for a website or portfolio - They absolutely can. Yes, you might have to restructure your website slightly but that doesn't make a huge impact. Additionally, if you're applying as a video producer or editor for anything media related that is not film or tv focused, a vertical reel will only show the that you're leaning into the popular viewing platform (a reel that showcases your work as a filmmaker will do so no matter the orientation). Vertical video likely isn't going anywhere - with phones and tablets being the primary media consumption device, vertical video is ideal for not only creators on insta/tiktok, but also any and all companies using those platforms for advertising. Media created for those platforms is instantly and easily repurposed for any social media app or web browser (LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.) It isn't replacing the horizontal space when it comes to film, tv, home entertainment - but that's also not where most consumer ads and casual content live these days.
Yes I absolutely agree with you. I just dont see why we have to support the dogma that 16:9 content is superior to vertical content. Both have their purpose and right to exist and neither of them is gonna get replaced by the other, nor is it just going to vanish.
This is so simple but smart! I always shoot vertical because I want to know what the framing will be, but your little thirds grid trick would come in handy for this reason! Awesome.
I thought you were gonna mention shooting with an open gate option, but I guess not all cameras have that option. Either way, it’s a great way to take advantage of the entire sensor and makes cropping to vertical easier.
As a professional videographer, you have saved my content for future use. I was just about to start shooting vertical and as you said, you cant use them for TH-cam and portfolio.
Such an amazing tip! Never really thought about this because I always thought it would lose quality! Now I'm excited to shoot everything again horizontally!
Dudeeeeeeeeee I ❤this video! I work professionally and still have the battle of vertical vs horizontal, but everything you said just struck a chord and has cemented the idea of shooting horizontally! Thank you brother, keep up the AMAZING work
HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH. Ishoot commercials for social media and shoot with a Blackmagic 6k pro. You can crop into the frame and pan and track the footage later, cutting out the crappy bits like corners of rooms or trees etc.
I'm so happy someone else said what I've been saying for so long..👏. We don't know how much longer vertical videos will be in style and its not as professional as horizontal videos in my opinion plus once its done there's no really going back...😕... Thank you for the advice... awesome job.
I think your point about never being able to go back is SO important! Just imagine if people covered some of the most amazing events in history, as vertical video, and that video gets shown to people, with a blurred image behind it on the news, or in a documentary film, etc. I know for sure that if the only footage I had of important occasions in my life, such as my wedding day or kids growing up, or parents, or good friends, was only shot in vertical, I'd be sad I never got any "full screen" horizontal shots!😃😃
Great video, well paced edit. You should look into open gate mode on Panasonic cameras (hopefully Sony soon)😊- it would be a great part 2 to this video as it makes vertical cuts from “horizontal” footage that much easier.
The real solution is just to organize yourself and be clear on what you want to use, be it horizontal or vertical video, editing your footage in 4k to just rescale it, platforms like tik tok or instagram reels do not allow you to post 4k footage they compress it, you end up with worse quality at the end, altough you could export your project in Full Hd instead, doesnt mean you wont have to do proxies or edit in a 4k workflow all to just end up using a full hd video lol . Let alone you will have troubles by framing your videos. Making the assumption that you will use the footage that you shoot horizontally on a vertical format you are still choosing what is in the center of the frame and excluding left and right size, lets say you did have the camera on 4k, the correct lens so you dont have troubles framing etc, you are still making the decision of using that footage on vertical mode, you are already going trough that desicion making anyway, why not focus on giving the best quality to your framing etc, for some projects it may be a good solution to try to shoot everything in horizontal but I dont think this apply to every short form content and wont last too long if you are planning to keep uploading in vertical formats.
Thanks for the solid tips Anthony! I've been struggling to find ways to optimize my workflow between YT, TikTok, and IG Reels because I dreaded the idea of shooting twice. I'll definitely give this a try
I did a test on IG with two 4k clips, one vertical and one landscape of the same scene. I scaled one and uploaded the other. You can tell the difference in the finished reel between the two clips. I shot both on an iPhone 14 pro. Do you think your suggestion applies more to dslr camera and the videos on phones don’t allow for this technique in with the same result?
It makes sense to shoot your videos horizontally and then upload them to several portals such as TH-cam etc. But if you are only on social media, I would still recommend recording it vertically. Because it makes a qualitative difference whether you upload a 4K vertical video or just an HD video. There are certainly people who don't attach much importance to video quality, in which case it doesn't matter anyway. But if you want to stand out with your quality, it makes a difference whether you upload a vertical 2160x3840 or a vertical 1080x1920 to Instagram. Even if Instagram downscales a 4K video, the video has much more detail and sharpness and fewer pixel artifacts than a normal HD video. If maximum quality is important on social media, then record in 4K vertical. However, if you are on multiple portals such as TH-cam etc then it may be worth recording in horizontal for the sake of efficiency.
“Vertical” videos won’t ever go away. It’s here to stay. Better idea is to shoot portrait orientation when you need it. If you need portrait videos more than anything else then go for it but if it’s more for tv or non-mobile use then go with landscape orientation. If you want a happy medium then get a secondary person to shoot whatever else you need or use b-roll as your secondary option.
Not to mention you can actually achieve both vertical and horizontal frame COMPOSITIONS by shooting horizontally. You compose your shot in the middle third for vertical, then offset the subject to the side (unless it's a centered composition obviously) and compose for horizontal balance and negative space as well. And just like that, you have the peace of mind of being able to edit anything you shot horizontally knowing you have a perfect vertical version of each shot as well.
Another important point of why I don't shoot vertically, is that camera sensors are designed to read the data from top to bottom (with the exception of a global shutter). Rotating the camera by 90 degrees will often lead to an unpleasant jelly effect that happens vertically.
Everyone watch this and watch this again. You are absolutely 100 on this! I work in the consumer product industry. We have been shooting this way for years. If I was a better TH-camr I would have put this out myself hehe. Bravo!
The laptob I edit in has 16 gb of ram, premiere pro requieres 32 gigs of ram to edit in 4k, so unfortunately I can't do this yet, but thank you very much, once I upgrade workspaces, I'll start shooting my vertical videos in horizontal. Also the warping is a very valid point, but that also depends on the lens you use.
These points are really unconvincing I'm afraid. Sure, you could do it this way, but you've not really bothered saying why it's any better. You mention the benefits of shooting horizontally, but you don't mention the downsides of the extra editing and time involved.
His points about the benefits of shooting horizontally ARE why it's better. He also mentions the downsides of shooting vertically. It's as if you didn't even watch the video.
exactly and also editing your footage in 4k to just rescale it, platforms like tik tok or instagram reels do not allow you to post 4k footage they compress it, you end up with worse quiality at the end, altough you could export your project in Full Hd instead, doesnt mean you wont have to do proxies or edit in a 4k workflow all to just end up using a full hd video lol
Thank you so much for making this Video. I have a shoot tomorrow and I was stuck on whether to shoot horizontally or vertically. This has really helped me make a decision. I am for sure shooting Horizontal. I am glad I'm subscribed to your channel.
Great video. I loaded a bunch of others on this topic but I think I heard all i need from you. And that point about Vertical maybe (hopefully) going away in the future and being stuck with vertical videos you can't use was a solid point. Cheers! 🍻
When everyone is talking about how to shoot vertically, you changed the perspective and glad someone has simplified making content rather than showing complex tricks. Good job 👍
I'm so glad I found this video. I recently went on a long trip and shot everything horizontally because shooting the same content twice was tiring me out. I was searching for a way to add my footage to the social media platforms. Thank you for this amazing advice. :)
Great video! Well supported and convincing perspective, quick and to the point, and GREAT visual examples and use of graphics. Especially loved how you explained with simple VFX effects about chromatic aberration, vignetting, and the 3rds grid. Great stuff. Liked and subscribed!
Great advice! Thank you. Instinctively, I knew horizontal was the way to go but the algorithms for reels was forcing the transition. Thank you for showing the way.
That’s lit but, for me I don’t have a wide angle lens that allows me to crop so I need to record vertical in order to get the most out of my 24-70mm for realtors videos
YESSS!!! That's how I am with the decision fatigue like when I think about everthing you said my brain goes haywire 🤦🏾♀. But truly thank you for this amazing video that I have been looking for, for years now. This have truly answered all my problems.
The whole vertical vs. horizontal makes me go nuts. I've been shooting majority vertically for the last two years (still getting used to it), but I do miss shooting horizontally and sitting down and watching it on the big screen. It depends what the goal is I guess. I shoot vertical for my daily, less serious content and horizontal for more documentary/short film format. I've thinking of starting vlogging again, and I was wondering if I should do a vertical or horizontal vlog? Do people watch TH-cam videos anymore like they use to? Or do people only watch on their phones.
Hey Anthony! The Thumbnail of this video made me click. The information was interesting (As I am getting more and more into learning my camera, learning about distortion of wide angle lenses, photography & videography principles and video editing things you say about shooting horizontal make sense. But your story telling, video editing accents on certain talking points, your hooks, your good vibes is a TH-cam Masterclass level of recommended best practices. Liked, Subscribed and even made a playlist of TH-cam videos to analyze. I am in the very beginning of my journey but I will definitely plan to be studying your other videos! Greetings from Bulgaria 🇧🇬
Which way do you shoot more often? Horizontal or Vertical?
I basically always shoot horizontal, but recently I have found myself experimenting with vertical too
Vertical bro
100% Horizontal - There is a reason why cinemas aren't 10 stores high, Vertical is only for complete... (redacted)😂
Been doing more vertical lately for Tiktok etc, but this seems solid.
Always horizontal. With humans having eyes side by side, it just makes sense. Also, less panning with horizontal.
I am SOOOOOOO glad somebody is finally mentioning this! There are so many reasons why it's better to shoot horizontally first, and coming from a graphic design background, it also works SO much better to have horizontal still images to start with (lots of cropping and layout options, and a lot of commercial photographers who know how to create images that look good with TEXT laid over top of them almost always shoot horizontally. You can actually look at the history of STOCK photography and see a lot of places stopped shooting vertical shots sometime back in the 90s, etc.)
LOVE this! I've also stopped shooting as many vertical photos! Maybe that's another video idea to make! :)
That's for photography, makes sense. But for video? The channel for which you're creating the content should inform your choice on whether to shoot vertical or horizontal. I lose nothing by just rotating my camera and shooting, if it's for reels or stories.
@@NzeMwami Hi! Sorry if I made it sound like I believe everybody should only shoot horizontally...In my situation, I'd just want to shoot both (by using 2 cameras on 1 camera cage) because I'd like to be able to use the content to publish on the news, Netflix, and on other platforms as well, so "think big" is what I'm saying...because you never know when your story can be really helpful out there (and you'd hate it if it gets published and they have to put it on TV with blurry edges, on left and right, if you know what I'm saying)
He at the same time explain what are also the difficulties which are not complex but does not apply to everyone (begginers) like framing which I think it's obviously super super important
what software do you use to crop horizontal video to vertical video?
The psychology of your thinking is brilliant and really helped settle the anxiety I have between vertical vs. horizontal for me. Now I just need to train myself to not shoot so tight when I'm filming horizontal. That's gonna take a little time. Thanks for the video!
It definitely requires some practice, and I definitely still mess up my framing! 😋
I feel that exactly same. I've been filming for years now but still stuggle at times. But I will say that I have always filmed Horizontal videos first. My struggle is trying to then make sure that my vertical videos still comes out beautifully.
You actually convinced me to shoot my content horizontally from now on!
Same 😂
he shouldn't have. it's not that simple. if the camera can shoot 16:9 it's downsampling, which will result in a higher resolution than a crop. it's also taking benefit of the full lens, which helps with depth of field, bokeh, and other things that lenses offer around the edges
@@zacki5663i agree …. I think it’s a hassle shooting everything horizontal JUST TO CROP OUT WHAT YOU DNT NEED LATER
That tip about the thirds to make sure they footage is all available when cropping is super useful, I think I’ll try that since I have some ideas to create vertical videos but don’t want to shoot vertical. This will help me to get this video made!!
It's a great rough guideline of where your framing will be!
One extra tip when converting horizontal footage that doesn’t fit the frame is to have it zoom or pan. Since the camera is moving it makes the shot feel larger. It won’t work for everything but it’ll work great for a lot of situations
you have to plan it before shooting! if the center frame have too much of motion.
It might work but sometimes shooting vertical gives us more shallow depth of field in background, shooting horizontal means you have to get wide or step away and it will give you less depth.
(I posted this same information above) "This will also depend on which lens (and aperture) and camera (sensor size) you're using. With smaller sensors (especially a cell phone) you will struggle to be able to blur out the background because of the lens-sensor relationship (which is why the iPhone has "cinema mode" where it uses AI to find the edges and artificially blur the background. On larger sensor cameras, especially with wider aperture lenses, you have the option of creating background blur. It also depends on the focal length of the lens, i.e. longer/more TELEPHOTO lenses can generally blur the background more, but it's true that it means you'll have to be further from a subject to frame them horizontally...but I prefer to not be TOO close when framing a PERSON, because (especially with a WIDE ANGLE lens) it can cause distortion of their features (long arms, bigger nose, etc.)" However, I almost always shoot with 2 cameras (WIDE & TIGHT shots) at the same time so there isn't any issues with not getting the shot I need!
This is exactly why not shooting videos like you're an Island Twin is better.
Because it keeps you guys from shooting everything with maximum *tOneH!*🤌
As professional Instagram Content Manager, my team strictly only shoot 4k vertically. Framing horizontal video does not work because we only can use maximum full frame 35mm lens and nothing below that before everything on the edge is getting distorted aka fisheye effect and the product look wrapped and unnatural. We shoot a lot of indoors too that’s why we often do not have enough camera distance to get center horizontal framing. Also things to consider that your vertical frame got eaten by caption etc when uploading to Instagram, so your bottom part of the frame is already useless. So, I think different needs require different solution, rather than one fits all. Ps: we shot for fashion product (women shoes)
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This video is sooooo NECESSARY!! I recently recorded a video vertically and regretted it afterwards. I wanted to uploaded it to TH-cam, which I still can… it’s just that I wanted to keep it consistent with other uploads.
Your tips were golden! And glad I came across it!
For content I know will be delivered vertically only, I prefer shooting vertically. Makes my framing better when I shoot and know will be delivered vertically. One advantage you forgot to mention about shooting vertically for vertical delivery is that you get shallower depth of field - you move closer to your subject or zoom in more vs shooting from further away and cropping in. Don't get me wrong, most times I do shoot horizontal and crop for vertical, but if I know the content will only be used on Social, I just shoot vertical. It's simple.
You're so on point!! As a video editor, I am constantly struggling with camera decisions and client choices. Contents are usually generated that are adaptable to all formats, but there's always the opportunity where something was shot exclusively vertically and then the client decides they want a TH-cam version. So, shooting horizontally and wide is definitely the best option to avoid future headaches.
Afraid I have to disagree (at least for some applications). If you’re shooting content for specifically a vertical output then I always find shooting vertical significantly better. It’s easier to frame and most importantly you don’t need an ultra wide angle lens to crop into a 9:16 from a horizontal image for a good frame. You also get the whole sensor for bokeh and any lens character you might want. But if you’re not sure the output or need mixed resolutions then 16:9 is best.
Agree with you. There is a lot people earning money from tik tok or Instagram and now TH-cam short. Vertical formal seems to be the new standard.
I am seeing it more for long form videos now too and I dont hate it. If your shooting a review in your bedroom and you dont have that glamorous booktubers bookcase etc and want people to listen to you and not explore/judge your living space then I think it works nicely. Or is that weird? @@milugar316
People complaining about how this is too much work just don’t get it. You guys can’t expect more output without putting in the work. Yeah, verticals are here to stay but crossposting is a huge deal for SERIOUS full time content creators. If you don’t want the hassle in post processing, then go ahead and shoot your videos twice in vertical and horizontal 😂 Anyway, great video Anthony! Really helpful.
I feel like such a dummy. This makes so much sense especially when coming from a background in graphic design where bigger and more DPI is better. I’m sitting here trying to find a way to shoot with two cameras when all I need is one. Thank you so much for this! You got a subscriber out of me.
Hi Steve, I saw your comment, and because I'm a former graphic designer too (20 years or so) I wanted to say thank you for your comment and add some more reasons to why I think it is SO much better to start with a Horizontal shot. I'm into being more productive and saving time, money, so a lot of these are based on that approach:
1. You create content that can be used either horizontally OR vertically, later (you can't shoot vertical and go the other way)
2. In graphic design, I always preferred images that were horizontal to start, because they gave me a lot more layout options (magazine double-spreads, placing text over images...these are all way easier with horizontal footage).,
3. Pulling stills from video is much easier with horizontal footage (I use video for PORTRAITS and love it, also see graphic design info above)
Lots more I could say, but I think it's probably stuff you already know, ha, ha!
Another reason i shoot only in 16:9 is that our videos have to be delivered in multiple aspect ratios for different platforms. Don’t forget 1:1, 4:5 and yes even 16:9. The same video MUST work in these different formats. So, 16:9 it is.
Makes sense if you are doing this professionally. But for a casual user, it's more time to edit, more skills to learn and larger files to store. I think that vertical videos are here to stay.
This video isn't for the casuals. It's for people who create content
My thoughts exactly. This is way more work than necessary for the average influencer
I hardly doubt vertical videos are here to stay. Phones are already trying to shift to a more squared resolution. And vertical video, if we take human biology in consideration, makes no sense since our eyes are aligned horizontally. The only reason vertical is trends nowadays is because of the way we hold our devices right now. I would bet in 20 years vertical videos will be mostly gone. Many resolutions have gone outdated in the past, this will only be another one.
@@JunYouko For that to happen, phones are going to have to seriously changed. They haven't changed much in 10 years.
@@unclebob8419 who knows... In a few years we may have gadgets like google glass returning and coming to the big crowd or even holographic images being displayed out of a new device. Hard to tell.
Shooting 4K vertically and rendering it to 1080 will get you wayy better image quality... plus more post-production possibilities. Yeah you can use shortcuts just to make it easier for yourself but it will always come with compromises🙏
how do you render it at 1080p?
@@latenightliftingexport it in 1080p
@@latenightliftinghave you tried googling your question?
This is why I hope that open gate recording becomes more industry standard like on the panasonic cameras. I have to get 16x9, 9x16 and 1x1 edits out of my videos for my job and it sucks to have to make such a massive crop. Allowing for more space in your framing is good but not great and I find that the more I have to crop, the less often I'm excited about the framing of my shots and how they turn out.
I agree, what happens to all that depth of field you might want…
Yeah it’s a challenge, but you bring up a good point. For most of our videos that are cropped vertically, they also need to come in other aspect ratios. 5:4, 1:1, 9:16 and 16:9. So obviously it has to be shot in 16:9, but cropping and reframing isn’t always fun. Tbh I’m not a fan of the 9:16 aspect ratio visually, I just use it because I have to.
@@rizzo-films I agree, I hope vertical video never makes it mainstream past social media but we do what we have to haha.
This was crossing my mind recently, you've helped me to set it in stone... thank you!
Super pleased a video discussing this has been recommended to me! I get quite overwhelmed sometimes having to shoot in multiple different orientations just so I can get footage for my vlogs on TH-cam or reels on Instagram & Tiktok. It is nice to see that I can save time and reuse the same footage instead of redoing it vertically! :)
THAT THIRDS THING IS SUCH A SIMPLE SOLUTION AAAAAAHHH THANK YOOOOU SUBBED
This is brilliant. Remembering to shoot content in both vertical and horizontal positions is rather exhausting, so I'm looking forward to giving this a go with shooting horizontally for everything!
Amazing video dude!
It works for full-frame camera only
For Apsc or smaller sensor camera will lose depth of field and image quality
@@fanadil makes sense!
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if you shoot horizontally, you have to go a little further away from the subject to fit it in the Center of the frame. If the subject is further away from the camera, you have less blur in the background.
This is the main downside of shooting horizontally.
But please correct me if I’m wrong! I’m actually hoping to be wrong 😂
Unfortunately you are right
Yeah this was just a video to be made for the sake of a video cause honestly its just extra work that could be done correctly the first time.
That's a fair point.
So? Walk backwards then. Is it hard? It's only a problem if you're shooting in your house with less space.
@@motheuser You clearly have no idea what he is talking about. Yes, you can step back, but it will affect bokeh and how it looks (background will be less blurry). Something to keep in mind when look of the shot is important.
horizontal always! the only time I go vertical is when I want that "raw cell phone" look or I know I'll cover the topic again in a more evergreen horizontal video 😌
Great take! Thanks for sharing!
You’re quickly becoming my favorite youtuber. You always have the best, most practical tips!
I kinda thought this was bad advice, till you got to the future proofing your videos part, and that actually makes a ton of sense. Wish more camera companies used the whole sensor or 4:3 sensors to help with framing options for both 9:16 and 16:9. Great video as always.
YES! I believe it's called Open Gate, some cameras have the ability to use the full sensor, but not very many!
Woooaahhhhhh...so much information in a short time. That's what we are missing these days. Really appreciate you for this.
Damn I love the editing of this video. The way you switch locations between shots is phenomenal 👍🏻
Finally - on so many levels . . . great presentation, wonderful knowledge, stupendous content, fabulous applications . . . THANK YOU!
Great video! I had a few thoughts throughout as someone who films about 50/50 vertical and horizontal. I feel like instead stating that people should stop shooting vertical video, it's better to state that videographers should stop shooting without intention. Film for the primary platform, and plan on doing some creative workshopping for the other orientation.
If your end platform is vertical, film vertically in 4k. Just like how many filmmakers film in 4k horizontal and upload in HD, having that larger resolution to work with gives you a lot of flexibility in edits. Work with your clients and consider your platform/audience before shooting so you can plan and shoot with intention. Filming horizontally in 4K does give you a vertical frame that works in HD, but you lose the ability to zoom in without quality loss, which can be rough in edits considering you have to film wider to make the horizontal shot work for vertical framing. This method definitely works for your platform and purposes, but it doesn't apply to everyone.
Vertical videos can be repurposed in just as many ways as a horizontal. So, if you find yourself needing to present your vertically filmed video in a horizontal format / platform, there are plenty of creative ways to crop, overlay, split screen, etc. footage to make it work. Just like how there are creative ways to use horizontal video in a vertical format. There's also a misconception that vertical videos can't be used for a website or portfolio - They absolutely can. Yes, you might have to restructure your website slightly but that doesn't make a huge impact. Additionally, if you're applying as a video producer or editor for anything media related that is not film or tv focused, a vertical reel will only show the that you're leaning into the popular viewing platform (a reel that showcases your work as a filmmaker will do so no matter the orientation).
Vertical video likely isn't going anywhere - with phones and tablets being the primary media consumption device, vertical video is ideal for not only creators on insta/tiktok, but also any and all companies using those platforms for advertising. Media created for those platforms is instantly and easily repurposed for any social media app or web browser (LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.) It isn't replacing the horizontal space when it comes to film, tv, home entertainment - but that's also not where most consumer ads and casual content live these days.
Yes I absolutely agree with you. I just dont see why we have to support the dogma that 16:9 content is superior to vertical content. Both have their purpose and right to exist and neither of them is gonna get replaced by the other, nor is it just going to vanish.
This is so simple but smart! I always shoot vertical because I want to know what the framing will be, but your little thirds grid trick would come in handy for this reason! Awesome.
I thought you were gonna mention shooting with an open gate option, but I guess not all cameras have that option. Either way, it’s a great way to take advantage of the entire sensor and makes cropping to vertical easier.
Dude, I could kiss you right now lol. Totally didn’t know about this and it’s such a bad ass hack
As a professional videographer, you have saved my content for future use. I was just about to start shooting vertical and as you said, you cant use them for TH-cam and portfolio.
i shot all my videos upside down. Because why not. I'm starting anew trend and i want to be a first adopter.
Such an amazing tip! Never really thought about this because I always thought it would lose quality! Now I'm excited to shoot everything again horizontally!
But what if you can only shoot 1080p - do you stick to vertical or can you get away with horizontal and follow your suggestion?
Nah you’d have to shoot vertical in that case, because otherwise there’s not enough resolution
Dudeeeeeeeeee I ❤this video! I work professionally and still have the battle of vertical vs horizontal, but everything you said just struck a chord and has cemented the idea of shooting horizontally! Thank you brother, keep up the AMAZING work
This is great advice!! Maybe a wide angle lens can also do a little help too
It's not work for me, I use apsc camera, If I do that I'll lose depth of field and image quality
HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH. Ishoot commercials for social media and shoot with a Blackmagic 6k pro. You can crop into the frame and pan and track the footage later, cutting out the crappy bits like corners of rooms or trees etc.
Bonus tip, get a camera with a 4:3 sensor and shoot have even more room to play with! (GH5 can do this)
This answered the question that's been running around my head for a week. Very informative. I love it, thanks a lot for this.
I'm so happy someone else said what I've been saying for so long..👏. We don't know how much longer vertical videos will be in style and its not as professional as horizontal videos in my opinion plus once its done there's no really going back...😕... Thank you for the advice... awesome job.
I think your point about never being able to go back is SO important! Just imagine if people covered some of the most amazing events in history, as vertical video, and that video gets shown to people, with a blurred image behind it on the news, or in a documentary film, etc. I know for sure that if the only footage I had of important occasions in my life, such as my wedding day or kids growing up, or parents, or good friends, was only shot in vertical, I'd be sad I never got any "full screen" horizontal shots!😃😃
Thank you for mentioning the thirds grid tip. That’s a huge help before I even turn the camera on!
Great video, well paced edit. You should look into open gate mode on Panasonic cameras (hopefully Sony soon)😊- it would be a great part 2 to this video as it makes vertical cuts from “horizontal” footage that much easier.
Found you on TikTok, your content is amazing! I’m super guilty of shooting vertical but you’ve changed my mind
I’ve spent the last 15-20 years training myself to film horizontally. Been struggling to film vertically because now it just feels wrong lol
I feel the sane way I hate vertical
Vertical video is just wrong. Look up Vertical Video Syndrome. th-cam.com/video/dechvhb0Meo/w-d-xo.html
The real solution is just to organize yourself and be clear on what you want to use, be it horizontal or vertical video, editing your footage in 4k to just rescale it, platforms like tik tok or instagram reels do not allow you to post 4k footage they compress it, you end up with worse quality at the end, altough you could export your project in Full Hd instead, doesnt mean you wont have to do proxies or edit in a 4k workflow all to just end up using a full hd video lol .
Let alone you will have troubles by framing your videos. Making the assumption that you will use the footage that you shoot horizontally on a vertical format you are still choosing what is in the center of the frame and excluding left and right size, lets say you did have the camera on 4k, the correct lens so you dont have troubles framing etc, you are still making the decision of using that footage on vertical mode, you are already going trough that desicion making anyway, why not focus on giving the best quality to your framing etc, for some projects it may be a good solution to try to shoot everything in horizontal but I dont think this apply to every short form content and wont last too long if you are planning to keep uploading in vertical formats.
Thanks for the solid tips Anthony! I've been struggling to find ways to optimize my workflow between YT, TikTok, and IG Reels because I dreaded the idea of shooting twice. I'll definitely give this a try
Great work man, some good ideas and tips
I did a test on IG with two 4k clips, one vertical and one landscape of the same scene. I scaled one and uploaded the other. You can tell the difference in the finished reel between the two clips. I shot both on an iPhone 14 pro. Do you think your suggestion applies more to dslr camera and the videos on phones don’t allow for this technique in with the same result?
In my opinion, you're probably right that this applies more to larger sensor cameras (and not cell phones so much).
@@silverlightphotoco Yes. I tried cropping on my gopro hero black 8 and the crop technique worked fine, but no go on the iphone 14.
@@pwc102 Wow! That's super cool to know it works on the GoPro 8 Black!!!
You are absolutely right. I always made it that way!
Much love 💕
Matthias 👋
This was such a great video!! Straight to the point, informative, problem solving, future thinking, and easy to digest! Thank you! 🥰🙏🏼🤩
It makes sense to shoot your videos horizontally and then upload them to several portals such as TH-cam etc. But if you are only on social media, I would still recommend recording it vertically. Because it makes a qualitative difference whether you upload a 4K vertical video or just an HD video. There are certainly people who don't attach much importance to video quality, in which case it doesn't matter anyway. But if you want to stand out with your quality, it makes a difference whether you upload a vertical 2160x3840 or a vertical 1080x1920 to Instagram. Even if Instagram downscales a 4K video, the video has much more detail and sharpness and fewer pixel artifacts than a normal HD video. If maximum quality is important on social media, then record in 4K vertical. However, if you are on multiple portals such as TH-cam etc then it may be worth recording in horizontal for the sake of efficiency.
“Vertical” videos won’t ever go away. It’s here to stay. Better idea is to shoot portrait orientation when you need it. If you need portrait videos more than anything else then go for it but if it’s more for tv or non-mobile use then go with landscape orientation. If you want a happy medium then get a secondary person to shoot whatever else you need or use b-roll as your secondary option.
exactly. Horizontal is dead.
Needed this... super helpful gonna give it a try! I really appreciate how you justified showing the pixel numbers!!
Not to mention you can actually achieve both vertical and horizontal frame COMPOSITIONS by shooting horizontally. You compose your shot in the middle third for vertical, then offset the subject to the side (unless it's a centered composition obviously) and compose for horizontal balance and negative space as well. And just like that, you have the peace of mind of being able to edit anything you shot horizontally knowing you have a perfect vertical version of each shot as well.
It's been such a pain in the ass shooting vertical lately - especially with the USB cord going to the monitor. Think I'll give this a try!
Another important point of why I don't shoot vertically, is that camera sensors are designed to read the data from top to bottom (with the exception of a global shutter). Rotating the camera by 90 degrees will often lead to an unpleasant jelly effect that happens vertically.
Everyone watch this and watch this again. You are absolutely 100 on this! I work in the consumer product industry. We have been shooting this way for years. If I was a better TH-camr I would have put this out myself hehe. Bravo!
The laptob I edit in has 16 gb of ram, premiere pro requieres 32 gigs of ram to edit in 4k, so unfortunately I can't do this yet, but thank you very much, once I upgrade workspaces, I'll start shooting my vertical videos in horizontal. Also the warping is a very valid point, but that also depends on the lens you use.
Proxies
@@Cor333y for what..?
@@gokukn2336 to edit on lower spec machines
I'm still following this guide now even I'm not a content creator. Thanks for this. I Sub. 👌🙂
These points are really unconvincing I'm afraid. Sure, you could do it this way, but you've not really bothered saying why it's any better. You mention the benefits of shooting horizontally, but you don't mention the downsides of the extra editing and time involved.
His points about the benefits of shooting horizontally ARE why it's better. He also mentions the downsides of shooting vertically. It's as if you didn't even watch the video.
exactly and also editing your footage in 4k to just rescale it, platforms like tik tok or instagram reels do not allow you to post 4k footage they compress it, you end up with worse quiality at the end, altough you could export your project in Full Hd instead, doesnt mean you wont have to do proxies or edit in a 4k workflow all to just end up using a full hd video lol
Jake achieved his goal..... engagement. This is a very informative video.
Thank you so much for making this Video. I have a shoot tomorrow and I was stuck on whether to shoot horizontally or vertically. This has really helped me make a decision. I am for sure shooting Horizontal. I am glad I'm subscribed to your channel.
Go and do your research bro, vertical video is here to stay!
The grid tips, and the top and bottom warping has convinced me 👌
Can’t wait the vertical video trend to end.
Let's be honest, the vertical videos are here to stay.
And then
....
VR
Nah I believe not, It would be sad not to
@@JosueRodriguez08 VR is cool, but people with lazy eye and motion sickness like me won't be able to use it, so it's not going to be a "main thing".
@rajathyagaraj1061 Nobody is talking about movies here.
We are talking about the format itself.
@rajathyagaraj1061 We are not talking about the filming standard...
We are talking about the format if it stays or disappears.
Instant sub ! This is logic, simple and brilliant ! Jeez
How is it that your audio inside and outside is so equal and perfect?
Great breakdown thanks!
Thanks for these tips! Is there a focal length you recommend ?? Which one are you mainly using ? (16-35mm?)
Great video. I loaded a bunch of others on this topic but I think I heard all i need from you. And that point about Vertical maybe (hopefully) going away in the future and being stuck with vertical videos you can't use was a solid point. Cheers! 🍻
Finally, a very informative video for videos. When someone is starting everything is very confusing.
Thanks for making useful content 👌
When everyone is talking about how to shoot vertically, you changed the perspective and glad someone has simplified making content rather than showing complex tricks. Good job 👍
What about if you film on an iPhone? Should you still do this?
So simple and yet I didn't really consider this as a viable work flow. Thanks.
Nice hints. Thanks a lot and all the best for 2023, Daniel
i like that you explain WHY. I just wished that you also showed us the how in one video.
Was struggling with this issue all these years. Thanks for explaining.
I'm so glad I found this video. I recently went on a long trip and shot everything horizontally because shooting the same content twice was tiring me out. I was searching for a way to add my footage to the social media platforms. Thank you for this amazing advice. :)
Im so glad im not the only person who feels this way about shooting vertical 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Great video! Well supported and convincing perspective, quick and to the point, and GREAT visual examples and use of graphics. Especially loved how you explained with simple VFX effects about chromatic aberration, vignetting, and the 3rds grid. Great stuff. Liked and subscribed!
I did struggle to find this answer and you just gave me the answer in the best way! Great job 👏
I have this struggle before but then I decided to shoot 4k instead, it gave me flexibility to edit in post both horizontal and vertical.
This helped so much! Vertical setup on a tripod is a disaster for me. Way less effort and risk to crop it later.
This is a solid video and answered every question I had (including questions I haven't thought of yet). Thanks for making it!
Yesssss.. decision fatigue when recording some video either vertical or horizontal.. gladly found ur tips. thanks
Great advice! Thank you. Instinctively, I knew horizontal was the way to go but the algorithms for reels was forcing the transition. Thank you for showing the way.
This is one of those videos straight to point and logical
That’s lit but, for me I don’t have a wide angle lens that allows me to crop so I need to record vertical in order to get the most out of my 24-70mm for realtors videos
Finally someone said it!!! Thank you for this video!!! I need to learn to do this horizontal to vertical 😊
This is one of the reasons I like so much using an Insta360 camera. Being able to export both horizontally and vertically is amazing.
YESSS!!! That's how I am with the decision fatigue like when I think about everthing you said my brain goes haywire 🤦🏾♀. But truly thank you for this amazing video that I have been looking for, for years now. This have truly answered all my problems.
+ my gimbal doesn't play that nice when my cam is mounted vertically 😅 his idea is good
This is the push I needed
YES! Someone's finally talking about this! Thank you!
The whole vertical vs. horizontal makes me go nuts. I've been shooting majority vertically for the last two years (still getting used to it), but I do miss shooting horizontally and sitting down and watching it on the big screen. It depends what the goal is I guess. I shoot vertical for my daily, less serious content and horizontal for more documentary/short film format. I've thinking of starting vlogging again, and I was wondering if I should do a vertical or horizontal vlog? Do people watch TH-cam videos anymore like they use to? Or do people only watch on their phones.
These are some great tips my man. Grade A quality content.
This is fantastic. Thank you for explaining this!! I'm sold on horizontal now.
A good solution is to shoot in Anamorphic (4:3 aspect ratio). On my Panasonic GH6, this is a resolution of 5.8K (5760 x 4320). I love it! 💥
Hey Anthony!
The Thumbnail of this video made me click.
The information was interesting (As I am getting more and more into learning my camera, learning about distortion of wide angle lenses, photography & videography principles and video editing things you say about shooting horizontal make sense.
But your story telling, video editing accents on certain talking points, your hooks, your good vibes is a TH-cam Masterclass level of recommended best practices.
Liked, Subscribed and even made a playlist of TH-cam videos to analyze.
I am in the very beginning of my journey but I will definitely plan to be studying your other videos!
Greetings from Bulgaria 🇧🇬