Every time I got stuck on some unexplained mechanic while stealthing, I would always turn to your guides. Its the minor details that I always get stuck on and cannot remember, like the bottles in golden grin or where the hell the last voting machine could possibly be in election day. So thank you for this godsend of a video! I will have to watch/reference this religiously so I can finally do It in stealth, maybe even In DSOD.
Thank you very much Silverstreak! That is great to hear :) Glad you've been enjoying these stealth guides and their details. I'll do my best to keep a similar style for future guides, and for now, best of luck with your Dockyard attempts :D
From election day if you don't already I highly recommend bringing a saw for the cages. This is how many taps of the saw are needed assuming you have the saw with the silent motor equipped and have aced the portable saw skill you'll need to: 3tap if you've got sharp blade equipped and don't have basic berserker and low health 2 tap with sharp blade or durable blade equipped if you have basic berserker and low health
Quite true Virtual! You have endless options for pathing, and making the best choice at every point saves quite a lot of time. It's definitely a satisfying heist!
Man. All these guide videos are so drastically underviewed. I still struggle with the heists but with these guides it feels so incredibly possible that i dont mind the 1-3 hours of attempts before its successful.
@@Marcmb thank you so much for the time, dedication, and thoughtfulness you put into your videos. It's genuinely such a glowing light in the community for me
Oh yeah, another Ultimate Stealth Guide, and this one will prob help me a lot, Bomb Dockyard is one of my least played heist in stealth, due to how frustrating it can be since i dont know any card spawn, so thanks a bunch Marc!
It's been quite a while since the last one, but I'm hoping to do more soon! Glad to hear this one will help, Pyro :) You'll see that the cards are very easy to learn because they're almost set up in "pairs". Enjoy!! :D
You're absolutely welcome Elma! I like seeing it on Crime Spree because it's very straightforward to ECM rush :D Enjoy the guide, and hopefully some of these tricks will help!
Excellent guide, Marc! This time I watched it before trying, and it took me several attempts before I got it. Just the simple "Where are the cards, computers, phones" is golden. It made it simple, apart from me failing for stupid reasons of course...
Hey again Stefan! Interesting that you watched this one before playing it, but glad to hear it helped :D The keycards and phones, I absolutely agree, are the best part of the guide! You gain so much by just keeping your eyes open as you traverse through the heist!
@@Marcmb Why I did that is for some reaosn, when I fired it up, it just felt like this would be sooo complicated, that I better just go watch your guide :)
@@stesmi Understandable! It's one of the few heists that gives you complete freedom to start with either the left or right side (which feel quite different), and it also has many roaming civs and guards, increasing the overall difficulty of the objectives. I would say you made the right choice :D
@@Marcmbcant wait to see ur channel grow even more when payday 3 drops.. i hope the game is still challenging so videos like these have a use.. payday 3 please dont be dogshit😩
@@traceyjones2242 :D Thank you very much! Just like you, I'm also hoping that PAYDAY 3 will be a great game! Hopefully very challenging, and very entertaining.
Hey Marc, just wanted to say thank you so much for this and all the other guides you've made. I recently got back into the game and have been pretty steadily getting DSOD clears on all the heists I was never able to do even with a full crew. The only one left is my white whale... Train Heist lol. Dockyard, Golden Grin, even Alesso all proved to be pretty easily predictable with the strategies you've shown but Train Heist is just killing me! It took a while but I even managed a full pacifist run of Framing Frame before I've managed to complete this stupid train! Anyway again thank you for all the hard work you've been putting into these videos, they've been a huge help and have changed stealth from a stressful reset fest into a something I can relax with after work!
You're absolutely welcome, NM! Happy to hear that my guides have been helpful during your return :) Especially making it a relaxing, enjoyable experience! I have a very old guide on Train Heist, but it was before this "Ultimate Guide" format, so it's missing a lot of useful information...
Dam...A 45-minute video That's WAY more detailed than other guides from the channel But it's worth it Let's see if this guide can change people's opinions on this heist like the Breakin' Feds one
It would be nice if more heisters start enjoying this one! It would also be amazing if the devs buffed the XP per bag here, it's so low! Glad you liked the detailed long video Fox, much appreciated :D
:D Very true! I remember I wanted to be more consistent/scheduled with these, at the start of 2022... but then my second visit to Canada completely messed with my schedule!
This was one of my last if not the last level that came out before I stopped, so while i've done it..I never relaly got it down clean, this was nice, I'm glad I got to see how to optimize and do this one right :D
Haha those pesky guards! They're always at just the right place when you want to cross :D Glad you liked the rush ending tip :) I would say it's always good to know when you reach the point of "nothing can go wrong from here, if anything happens I can just rush!".
This heist is also pretty cash efficient with just two meth bags; I’ve been using it for my first five infamies. Grab ingredients on right side first to avoid running all the way around for second bag. You can also check the other ingredient spawns while the boat is moving.
Interesting strategy, Sly Ninja! I absolutely agree with starting with the right-side ingredients yup, especially because that's the side that I always start on. However the main downside of going back for more ingredients is that, not only it takes about a minute for the back-and-forth, but then you have to sit through the cooking process again, which is quite slow...! But it's definitely worth considering if you're close to the $200,000,000 :D
@@Marcmb if you were able to help me find anybody that could help me install some hud mods on the steam deck im stuck with until further notice like through the discord or something I'll easily take that over the ranch instead haha. The Linux lingo makes most guides hard to follow along for me so I'm afraid I won't be able to do it without help.
@@djprojugs6606 I think your best bet would be to ask on Reddit! Plenty of experts over there. Sadly I do not know anyone that plays on the Steam Deck, so I have no one to refer you to :(
I wonder how Payday 3 will handle pathfinding differently. Hopefully the guard movement is a bit less janky. Also, can't wait for the pathfinding video.
Thanks Zach! I have plans to release the pathfinding video during this summer, but not sure exactly when. As for PAYDAY 3, I'm really looking forward to the "search mode" in stealth, when the guards suspect you're around, and how that will affect their movements...
I love that achievement! Doing solo does indeed sound like a pain (very hard, lots of RNG...) but doing it duo is really satisfying :D As for Auction Cry, I do have a video on how to get that achievement _duo_ (effortless and easy), but in the future I plan to make an in-depth tutorial for the solo version. No planned release date though...
@@nguyenduythang7598 Nice nice! Me personally I love that achievement in duo (you can get some really fast times), but solo under 60s sounds like a decent challenge!
@@nguyenduythang7598 Makes sense yeah! For such a solo achievement, not only do you need perfect execution, but also really good RNG! So quite a few restarts :D
Extremely helpful as always Marc, very pleasantly surprised the ultimate guide series continue. Black Cat would be great for a next one! (not at all bc i struggle with it, nah). also, quick question, wolfhud hudlist shows 1 cash loot and 2 artifacts in mountain master, but i've never seen either. blind or oob loot? asking since ik you're rather perceptive :)
Thank you very much Charles! I definitely want to make more guides soon, hoping to get into the recent heists before the Texas Heat campaign ends. I have some plans coming soon for Ukrainian Prisoner in particular, and Mountain Master too... As for your question regarding Mountain Master: there is that one corridor that connects the balcony, to the bedroom. In that corridor there are 2 artifacts, but they cannot be bagged nor secured: those are definitely the ones being counted by WolfHUD. As for the money, I have no idea! :D
1) 35:43 You cant get frequencies from 4th comp while Bain was talking about 3rd one. Better wait full Bain`s answer than hack 4th. 2) 29:34 I remember (not sure) there 1 more container with same problem (close to keycard panel)
For the first one you mentioned you can just look at the computer screen. If the little screen changes after you've searched it then there's the comp frequency.
Hey Mefistofell! Regarding the first point, even if Bain doesn't say anything, you _will_ get the frequencies if that is the correct PC! Just like *@fiyah* mentioned before me, you can see from the computer screen that some letters appear when you get the frequencies, even if Bain was currently busy with another voiceline. For a clear example you can see 13:55! Regarding the 2nd point, there are a few other containers that can spawn open / closed on either side, but I think this is the only one that can spawn closed with a crate inside!
You've really opened up the world of stealth for me, thanks so much for your videos! One question - what mod gives the blue text across the top of the screen giving XP info? I can't find it in any of the settings on your recommended mods video.
You're absolutely welcome Marshall! Great to hear that my videos are making stealth more enjoyable for you :D As for your question, those blue lines for base XP triggers are being displayed by a mod similar to XP Notifier ( modworkshop.net/mod/28247 ), but instead of showing "real XP", it shows "Base XP", which is often better. With that said, I believe this one is not available on any mod website (as far as I know), so it's not on modworkshop, but you can find it here: it's a custom mod written by Frankelstner (the author of The Long Guide), with instructions on how to set it up: steamcommunity.com/groups/pd2mech/discussions/0/357286119110558745/
The money is quite good that's true, especially if you cook 1 (or 2) meth! But as *@fiyah* said, some other heists like Big Oil are so much better for money :p
Welcome back to the heisting, WuD! Check out the latest heist if you haven't yet (Lost in Transit), it's quite cool and atmospheric :p And good luck with Dockyard too! Hopefully the guide helps in some aspects :D
@@wud4484 Oooh I forgot you were a console heister :( Well in that case, there's not _as much_ to do, but still good luck with the Dockyard runs :D And glad to hear you enjoy watching the PC-only guides regardless, thank you!
This is kinda of a dumb suggestion, but what do you think about a stealth guide for firestarter day 1 or mallcrasher, which are intended to be loud. I have been trying to complete firestarter day one on stealth while playing solo, and it's a very painful experience. I would really like to see someone that is good in the game pointing out an actual consistent strategy at that heist, if there's one.
Hey João! I definitely have plans for both a Mallcrasher guide, and a Firestarter guide (focusing on DAY1). However I first want to focus on the guides for heists with "intended" stealth (because I feel like those will be useful for more heisters). In 2023 I'll try to upload guides with more frequency, so hopefully I'll get to everything soon-ish!
Bain - "There's no advantage in killing civilians". IDK, if there was any real incentive to keep them alive past your 4th or 5th heist period, I might agree with you Bain.
Very true words indeed. For PAYDAY 3 I'm really hoping there's a better reward system (perhaps some challenges, or tied to XP reward, etc...) to make civilian casualties a lot more relevant and punishing.
Me: mhh I just completed the bomb: dockyard in the least optimal way I could’ve thought off…let’s see if my favourite heister has some clues on how to impro- This video releases:
28:28 This truck due to desync can be diffrent for other players I once joined a friend and I got stuck in one - truck was "open" but it just wouldn't let me get out. And also 1 weird case where the truck was white for me as host and pink for someone else. They and I could not do any interaction with it.
@@Marcmb yeah had it happen alot but with bodies while stealthing online. First time confirmed I know of was on scarface mansion where I shotgunned a body into the water but someone else saw it still on the ground nearby. These days I just don't trust it and go for a non-shotgun kill and bag them then throw them over to be safe.
I really hope PD3 takes a lesson and from this heist and gives guards patrol paths instead of having waypoints that they meander between. Sure, it's pretty easy to stealth this heist once you figure out the guard paths, but I just see that as rewarding the player for learning.
Interesting opinion TheTundraTerror! I think a mix of both can be good because easier paths can be fitting for easier heists, but harder heists are nice when the difficulty is turned up to 11. In any case I'm really looking forward to systems that are easy to understand like the pathfinding here!
@@Marcmb I think a mix of both might work. I just prefer the set pathing because a) it makes more sense for guards to have patrol routes in real life and b) it would mean a lot less waiting. Personally, I learn towards the former reason than the latter because I can't think of any security firm that would hire people and go "okay, just meander around". That said, depending on how Payday 3 handles its stealth mechanics to possible include audible cues, that might justify having set paths mechanically.
@@TheTundraTerror As long as they don't make it too easy or mechanically repetitive, I won't mind! :D Set patrol routes definitely make more sense IRL, although I could also respect some small random variations (like backtracking a bit, or checking a corner every now and then...). The problem with audible cues done wrong is that the heisting then boils down to "oh 3 guards in my way, let me throw a coin 3 times to get to my destination" which is very repetitive and simple.
@@Marcmb Yeah, anyone whose played the early Hitman games knows how busted the coin can be. To prevent audible cues being abused, you could give guards come kind of internal cooldown on guards with noise makers. Use it too much (too quickly) and they go for the alarm. Another good idea is what Framing Frame Day 1 does and give us more environmental noise makers. Of course, heavily limiting the amount of coins you can carry/throw would also help. The idea is really just to prevent the "hurry up and wait" gameloop of many stealth heists.
@@TheTundraTerror Very good points yup, as long as they make it balanced, I will agree with anything! Challenge and entertainment are my top 2 priorities, but I trust that they have some new ideas for sure :D We'll see!
Man you make the heist that it's hard due lots of guards and long map to stealth to seem simple to do Also copycat should be a good deck for this one if go for this heist (either speed or pcm)
Thank you very much Fun! With the knowledge of their pathfinding, the map does become a lot easier to navigate :p Glad you enjoyed the guide! And indeed, Copycat will be great for this one! For carrying the heavy bomb parts, moving body bags, looting some gold... definitely a great choice!
Aww sorry about that ukgigs, this is definitely one of the harshest stealth heists for beginner / intermediate stealthers... sorry it didn't work out!!
@@Marcmb well i kept trying and i eventually did it but i ran out of body bags and got caught when i had 2 bags left, also one of the bags spawned on the other side of the ship so i had to go back around, thanks for your help its definitely gonna help me with my future heists
Nice! You get a 'NICE' award! Official trophy for getting the 69th comment :p 🏆 And it is a big one yup :D One of the longest guides I've made in a while!
For the pink truck, is it okay to bring a saw ? I guess it's better than waiting for drilling progress (and it's risky to not killing guards that may see the drill)
Hey komangky! Similar to the trucks on Firestarter, you can indeed bring a saw to open the lock. Truck locks are quite weak so you don't really need to bother with saw skills either. Whoever, keep in mind that it's only a _chance_ that the pink truck will be there, and your concealment will be higher for the entire run in exchange. I personally prefer the drill (since there's so much waiting anyway in all-loot runs), but your call! If you bring it, it will definitely work :)
Hey chomusucke! I don't know what's the exact setting, but I think they're considered floating labels. Look through those options and see if you can disable the numbers on-screen. If you can't find the setting, reply here and I'll check myself tomorrow when I can launch the game!
@@Marcmb i dont think it is floating labels, the floating labels are like the labels on drills or ai/sentry when if you hover over them, you can see the remaining time or the health of enemy/friendly ai/ sentries edit: ah nevermind i found it, it is in the damage arc, gain indicator
@@chomusucke192 Ooh I see! Sorry it took a while to get back to this message (busier than I had planned), but I'm glad you were able to find the setting after all :D
Hey spanner! The trick definitely still works yup, we use it daily on our Black Cat ECM rushes because it helps a bit. Make sure that your saw has the CORRECT mods! It should have SILENT motor and not FAST motor! That might be the issue.
Hey rafarad! For heists that I'm very confident with, I simply restart over and over to get all the screenshots, which also allows me to verify things like the number of spawns per run, any invalid combinations, etc. However for heists where there are many possibilities and it would be easy to miss a spawn (for example Framing Frame) I use RNG Modifier to cycle through all the possibilities, to make sure I don't miss a single one! Also recently, Jav (who is experienced with map making) taught me how to check all the spawns from the BeardLib editor, which is quite handy too!
Hey crimson! I assume you mean for the clip at 1:20. I was just recording the clip to show the keycard spawns, so I wasn't being sneaky at all: if you move like that, you're always very likely to get spotted. However, the reason I didn't get spotted is pure LUCK: for performance reasons, civs and other NPCs only check their surroundings (to detect if you're nearby) every 2s, so I just happened to slip past him during the time window inbetween 2 consecutive checks.
Could you make one about Black cat or Ukrainian prisoner? Both of them can be done solo under 10 minutes, give 2m+ xp and have quite a bit of things to learn to master them.
Hey Dom! For some of the new heists, you can expect videos soon because they will be parts 3 and 5 of my Solo XP Farming videos. For the rest, which are slightly less XP efficient, I will get to them as well as soon as I can too, but I want to finish the older heists first!
@@nuke_m4n Diamond Heist is indeed one of the next few guides I will do yup. The next one (which is scheduled to release in 4 weeks) will either be Diamond Heist, or Yacht Heist. We'll see!
Interesting opinion shooter! Personally I like the manifest just to save time, and because it can come in clutch if you're rushing the end (knowing which 4 containers are candidates ASAP). However, the truth is that even with the preplanning I suggested, you still have 1 spare favor that you could use on the crowbar :p I personally leave that favor unused, because it reminds me that I'm there for the completion, not for the extra loot! Which prevents me from getting side-tracked.
Haha! Very good to see the improvement manilla. This heist is quite big, but very manageable once you understand what you're going for. If you attempt it, best of luck! :D
There is a lot that's unintuitive and even really bad described. Like killing civs makes it so much easier, the cash money especially with that one stealth ability where cleaner costs gets reduced is like not felt.
Very good point! I'll reply as well but everything that *@rubykdc9829* said is on point. Keep in mind that Shadow Raid without the armor is quite bad for XP efficiency. With that in mind, if you secure just 12 bags, Shadow Raid gives 500 per bag, plus a bonus of 6K for the full armor - so on average it's actually 750 per bag. Combined with the fact that it can be done a lot faster, that's why Shadow Raid can stand as a decent XP farming heist even with a measly 500 XP per bag! Shacklethorne used to be 0 until a few months ago, but it got recently buffed to 1,000 XP per bag :D The number of artifacts on that heist is *38 / 36 / 35* for the *back / right / left* office spawns.
Hey Saibot! Sadly there's no XP effect from the One Down modifier. Literally all it does is lower your downs from 3 to 1, and give you access to the One Down achievements.
thx your useful guide! i did it second attempt, luckily :) now there's only bomb forest left for all Butcher's contracts dsod... damn bomb forest is fkin' impossible! i need a bomb forest "stealth" guide, anyone?! Xd
the phone was on the right side but the computer was on the left side, so after calling the phone i had to go all the way around to interact computer Xd but once always better than twice yeah? :D
Good job Antonio! Glad the guide was useful, thank you very much :D Bomb: Forest is indeed going to be a bit of a pain. Sadly loud only, but it's quite doable once you get used to it!
@@Marcmb Yeah, get used to it! :D I mean get used to downs Xd that's quite a bit of a pain to be told not recommended to use my favorite hacker build Xd
Haha :D I think I was just too distracted thinking about where were the remaining crates, so I forgot where I was and fell into the gap. However it turned out I was going headed for the building right in front of me, so it didn't matter much :p Although it's true that with Yakuza you can just sprint forward, fully ignoring the gap :D
There are many places here where the body bag trick will work including inside train carts, on top of crates and probably on top of the train carts. If you're lucky you can definitely get multiple stuck with one bag.
Good point yup! At some point I want to revisit some of the heists, and show how they can be broken with the body bag trick... Shadow Raid is a good example, Alesso in some areas... However for the stealth guides I prefer showcasing them without explots, because that feels more "fair" :p
@@Marcmb especially if its not really worth it. for counterfeit using the faulty ai is basically the only way to have a long enough stealth part to get everything done. for the train heist it means you don't have to worry about any guards in the main part once the setup is done. which is a huge deal. but for shadow raid it would basically mean you can additionally get rid of cams i guess. doing the trick in this heist doesn't seem worth it when they are so many guard free areas anyway and they aren't very annoying with their path finding.
@@mauer1 most of the time its definitely not worth it but it is fun to find new places on jobs where it does work. For the train heist I really don't bother with the trick because I like to make it harder by doing a no kill run which is definitely fun to try since you have to dominate the 4 guards that wander close to the front of the train then tie down the nearby civs. Only issue with the run is that it basically forces you to bring a saw.
@@fiyahquacker2835 i think you can ecm unlock the doors while the drill is on them. when thats true you can drill stuck the last guard on top of the train
@@mauer1 Definitely yes! If I end up having time to get to those videos, I will start with the ones that benefit from it the most. Exactly as you say, Counterfeit was the most obvious case because the entire strategy relied on it, but in most heists there's not much to gain, other than the fun of playing around with the AI. And to clarify the point that you two brought up about Train Heist, yes you can indeed get guards stuck by ECM-unlocking the doors while they're loudly being drilled. You can also use a keycard for the same effect, or even force open the door with a saw to also remove the loud drill - same thing in all 3 cases!
Sometimes yup... in my opinion, the worst part about playing the heist loud, is that Bile takes forever to bring you the C4 to blow up the dock gates. So it goes from a really fast-paced objective of finding the keycards and placing them, to waiting for the helicopter...
It's a good heist Kyro!! Now that I've posted the guide and there's no excuses for failing, expect me to host it a lot more often on the CrimeNET lobbies :p *@legendsapeks6168* - Border Crossing is good too, but Dockyard better!!!
No one wants a Nightclub guide Idio! :mock I'm trying to finish the old good heists so that I can move on to the new City of Gold ones! But yes we can say soon™ for this one. Soon™ yes.
@@fiyahquacker2835 uh you are CRAZY if you think I'm going to bring that to stealth. ECMS are USELESS for stealth and so are saws. also if I bring an rpg that will bring me to 75 detection rate! You clearly don't know much about stealth so this guide would help you the most.
Haha! Very long guide indeed, there was a lot to mention. Fortunately you can skip the final 15 minutes because that's only about going for all loot, which isn't very XP efficient but I still wanted to mention it!
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Again Marcmb uploaded a video that will help me and I will no longer need to rely in a 4 year old guide that doent explains nothing
:D There were a lot of requests for this one when I posted a poll last year, so it took a while, but it's finally here!
Every time I got stuck on some unexplained mechanic while stealthing, I would always turn to your guides. Its the minor details that I always get stuck on and cannot remember, like the bottles in golden grin or where the hell the last voting machine could possibly be in election day.
So thank you for this godsend of a video!
I will have to watch/reference this religiously so I can finally do It in stealth, maybe even In DSOD.
Thank you very much Silverstreak! That is great to hear :) Glad you've been enjoying these stealth guides and their details. I'll do my best to keep a similar style for future guides, and for now, best of luck with your Dockyard attempts :D
From election day if you don't already I highly recommend bringing a saw for the cages.
This is how many taps of the saw are needed assuming you have the saw with the silent motor equipped and have aced the portable saw skill you'll need to:
3tap if you've got sharp blade equipped and don't have basic berserker and low health
2 tap with sharp blade or durable blade equipped if you have basic berserker and low health
I remember having a lot of problema with this heist till I learn it, but this video have a los of useful info, amazing as always Marc!
Thank you GVZ! Glad you enjoyed the extra details :D
I actually really like this heist because of all the options it gives you. I take any heist that prefers playerskill than luck and a bit of gambling
Quite true Virtual! You have endless options for pathing, and making the best choice at every point saves quite a lot of time. It's definitely a satisfying heist!
Man. All these guide videos are so drastically underviewed. I still struggle with the heists but with these guides it feels so incredibly possible that i dont mind the 1-3 hours of attempts before its successful.
Thanks so much for the kind words Shadow! Glad you're enjoying the guides, I appreciate that a lot :)
@@Marcmb thank you so much for the time, dedication, and thoughtfulness you put into your videos. It's genuinely such a glowing light in the community for me
Oh yeah, another Ultimate Stealth Guide, and this one will prob help me a lot, Bomb Dockyard is one of my least played heist in stealth, due to how frustrating it can be since i dont know any card spawn, so thanks a bunch Marc!
It's been quite a while since the last one, but I'm hoping to do more soon! Glad to hear this one will help, Pyro :)
You'll see that the cards are very easy to learn because they're almost set up in "pairs". Enjoy!! :D
so glad you released this. this heist is a nightmare when i see it on crime spree
You're absolutely welcome Elma! I like seeing it on Crime Spree because it's very straightforward to ECM rush :D
Enjoy the guide, and hopefully some of these tricks will help!
Excellent guide, Marc! This time I watched it before trying, and it took me several attempts before I got it. Just the simple "Where are the cards, computers, phones" is golden. It made it simple, apart from me failing for stupid reasons of course...
Hey again Stefan! Interesting that you watched this one before playing it, but glad to hear it helped :D
The keycards and phones, I absolutely agree, are the best part of the guide! You gain so much by just keeping your eyes open as you traverse through the heist!
@@Marcmb Why I did that is for some reaosn, when I fired it up, it just felt like this would be sooo complicated, that I better just go watch your guide :)
@@stesmi Understandable! It's one of the few heists that gives you complete freedom to start with either the left or right side (which feel quite different), and it also has many roaming civs and guards, increasing the overall difficulty of the objectives. I would say you made the right choice :D
this is like one of the first times ive tried watching one of these purely for entertainment.. such a useful channel jesus, keep it up my guy
Thanks a lot for the very nice words Tracey! Glad you enjoyed the video :D
I'll do my best to keep it up!
@@Marcmbcant wait to see ur channel grow even more when payday 3 drops.. i hope the game is still challenging so videos like these have a use.. payday 3 please dont be dogshit😩
@@traceyjones2242 :D Thank you very much! Just like you, I'm also hoping that PAYDAY 3 will be a great game! Hopefully very challenging, and very entertaining.
nice, 50 minute video on a heist I plan to never play again :D Let's see what it has in store
Maybe one day they will increase the XP reward per bag, and it'll become meta for infamy rotations :p Who knows!
I do like how Master Plan goes with the video whenever you drop important bites of info like the pathfinding one, it gives it a planning feel
Thank you very much Leonardo! Glad you liked that detail :D
i completed it first try thanks to your video, the example run helped a lot
:D Happy to hear that! Glad the video helped :)
Oh hey, its my favorite heist to stealth.... Awesome video as always, by the way!
Thank you very much the j! Glad I could bring you a video about your favorite heist, and great to hear you enjoyed it :D
Carrot upload and Marcmb guide the day after, this has to be some sort of New Year's miracle
Haha nice nice indeed! I was watching Carrot's guide yesterday trying to keep me awake. Very long, but very interesting :D
Hey Marc, just wanted to say thank you so much for this and all the other guides you've made. I recently got back into the game and have been pretty steadily getting DSOD clears on all the heists I was never able to do even with a full crew. The only one left is my white whale... Train Heist lol. Dockyard, Golden Grin, even Alesso all proved to be pretty easily predictable with the strategies you've shown but Train Heist is just killing me! It took a while but I even managed a full pacifist run of Framing Frame before I've managed to complete this stupid train!
Anyway again thank you for all the hard work you've been putting into these videos, they've been a huge help and have changed stealth from a stressful reset fest into a something I can relax with after work!
You're absolutely welcome, NM! Happy to hear that my guides have been helpful during your return :) Especially making it a relaxing, enjoyable experience!
I have a very old guide on Train Heist, but it was before this "Ultimate Guide" format, so it's missing a lot of useful information...
another my favorite ultimate stealth guide video, good job Marc.
That's good to hear! Glad you liked this one, much appreciated :D
Dam...A 45-minute video
That's WAY more detailed than other guides from the channel
But it's worth it
Let's see if this guide can change people's opinions on this heist like the Breakin' Feds one
It would be nice if more heisters start enjoying this one! It would also be amazing if the devs buffed the XP per bag here, it's so low!
Glad you liked the detailed long video Fox, much appreciated :D
I always had problems with this heist, this will be useful.
That's great to hear shephard! Enjoy the guide :D
Thanks a bunch for ending up making this guide. Probably one of my favorite stealthable heists.
You're absolutely welcome, chillbro! Considering it's one of your favorites, I hope I was able to deliver :D
been a while since the last one of these, nice.
:D Very true! I remember I wanted to be more consistent/scheduled with these, at the start of 2022... but then my second visit to Canada completely messed with my schedule!
What a coincidence, I was going to attempt to do this Tuesday.
Nice! Perfect perfect timing. Good luck in your runs! :D
This was one of my last if not the last level that came out before I stopped, so while i've done it..I never relaly got it down clean, this was nice, I'm glad I got to see how to optimize and do this one right :D
Hey there Nosgard! Thanks for dropping by :p Glad you enjoyed seeing the detailed guide of this one! :D
15:25 like 40% of my stealth run in this heist exploded by these gaurds XD
23:22 This is really helpful TIP!!! thx :P
Haha those pesky guards! They're always at just the right place when you want to cross :D
Glad you liked the rush ending tip :) I would say it's always good to know when you reach the point of "nothing can go wrong from here, if anything happens I can just rush!".
This heist is also pretty cash efficient with just two meth bags; I’ve been using it for my first five infamies. Grab ingredients on right side first to avoid running all the way around for second bag. You can also check the other ingredient spawns while the boat is moving.
The most I've gotten is around 20-23mil on ds-od and that's including any weapons cases from when the truck is red.
Interesting strategy, Sly Ninja! I absolutely agree with starting with the right-side ingredients yup, especially because that's the side that I always start on. However the main downside of going back for more ingredients is that, not only it takes about a minute for the back-and-forth, but then you have to sit through the cooking process again, which is quite slow...! But it's definitely worth considering if you're close to the $200,000,000 :D
Ohhh marc, this is like piece of art
:D Thank you very much Andresmay! Glad you liked this one :)
I know I know
I'm late
But real shit thanks so much for this one mate!
You're absolutely welcome, Robloxian1! Glad this one helped :)
Now i can't wait for that archived ranch video we talked about! (You know the one you already said wasn't a guarantee haha)
Haha! Some day maybe some day maybe DJ, but as I said it's extremely unlikely because I missed my chance for Midland Ranch!
@@Marcmb if you were able to help me find anybody that could help me install some hud mods on the steam deck im stuck with until further notice like through the discord or something I'll easily take that over the ranch instead haha. The Linux lingo makes most guides hard to follow along for me so I'm afraid I won't be able to do it without help.
@@djprojugs6606 I think your best bet would be to ask on Reddit! Plenty of experts over there. Sadly I do not know anyone that plays on the Steam Deck, so I have no one to refer you to :(
I wonder how Payday 3 will handle pathfinding differently. Hopefully the guard movement is a bit less janky.
Also, can't wait for the pathfinding video.
Thanks Zach! I have plans to release the pathfinding video during this summer, but not sure exactly when.
As for PAYDAY 3, I'm really looking forward to the "search mode" in stealth, when the guards suspect you're around, and how that will affect their movements...
this gonna help me so much thanks man
Great to hear Bence, you're absolutely welcome! Good to know the guide will help :D
now this reminded me of the old day doing 60s achievement, alot of pain ngl
i still can’t do auction cry yet and i’m not gonna try it again
I love that achievement! Doing solo does indeed sound like a pain (very hard, lots of RNG...) but doing it duo is really satisfying :D
As for Auction Cry, I do have a video on how to get that achievement _duo_ (effortless and easy), but in the future I plan to make an in-depth tutorial for the solo version. No planned release date though...
@@Marcmb yeah but i don’t have anyone to do with so i tried to do solo, the fastest i’ve done is 5m something so still have to improve
@@nguyenduythang7598 Nice nice! Me personally I love that achievement in duo (you can get some really fast times), but solo under 60s sounds like a decent challenge!
@@Marcmb took me around 20 restart to get both keycards to spawn on the right side and in the best spot as possible but worth it
@@nguyenduythang7598 Makes sense yeah! For such a solo achievement, not only do you need perfect execution, but also really good RNG! So quite a few restarts :D
Yessssss, great video
Thanks a lot kitandrei! Glad you liked the guide :D
9:13 if you have played robbery bob, youll know this is exactly the same waypoint of some guard in some missions
Hah :D I've never played robbery bob, but it does make sense that such a simple pathfinding pattern exists in many other games!
Extremely helpful as always Marc, very pleasantly surprised the ultimate guide series continue. Black Cat would be great for a next one! (not at all bc i struggle with it, nah).
also, quick question, wolfhud hudlist shows 1 cash loot and 2 artifacts in mountain master, but i've never seen either. blind or oob loot? asking since ik you're rather perceptive :)
Thank you very much Charles! I definitely want to make more guides soon, hoping to get into the recent heists before the Texas Heat campaign ends. I have some plans coming soon for Ukrainian Prisoner in particular, and Mountain Master too...
As for your question regarding Mountain Master: there is that one corridor that connects the balcony, to the bedroom. In that corridor there are 2 artifacts, but they cannot be bagged nor secured: those are definitely the ones being counted by WolfHUD. As for the money, I have no idea! :D
1) 35:43 You cant get frequencies from 4th comp while Bain was talking about 3rd one. Better wait full Bain`s answer than hack 4th.
2) 29:34 I remember (not sure) there 1 more container with same problem (close to keycard panel)
For the first one you mentioned you can just look at the computer screen. If the little screen changes after you've searched it then there's the comp frequency.
Hey Mefistofell! Regarding the first point, even if Bain doesn't say anything, you _will_ get the frequencies if that is the correct PC! Just like *@fiyah* mentioned before me, you can see from the computer screen that some letters appear when you get the frequencies, even if Bain was currently busy with another voiceline. For a clear example you can see 13:55!
Regarding the 2nd point, there are a few other containers that can spawn open / closed on either side, but I think this is the only one that can spawn closed with a crate inside!
You've really opened up the world of stealth for me, thanks so much for your videos!
One question - what mod gives the blue text across the top of the screen giving XP info? I can't find it in any of the settings on your recommended mods video.
You're absolutely welcome Marshall! Great to hear that my videos are making stealth more enjoyable for you :D
As for your question, those blue lines for base XP triggers are being displayed by a mod similar to XP Notifier ( modworkshop.net/mod/28247 ), but instead of showing "real XP", it shows "Base XP", which is often better. With that said, I believe this one is not available on any mod website (as far as I know), so it's not on modworkshop, but you can find it here: it's a custom mod written by Frankelstner (the author of The Long Guide), with instructions on how to set it up:
steamcommunity.com/groups/pd2mech/discussions/0/357286119110558745/
"The stealth bonus is nice but the xp efficiency is awful"
You see, marc, I don't mind the xp... it's about the monee
Then your best bet is just redoing big oil over and over again on death wish.
The money is quite good that's true, especially if you cook 1 (or 2) meth! But as *@fiyah* said, some other heists like Big Oil are so much better for money :p
3:18 the screen going like that with the sounds i thought it was music lol
I just got back into Payday 2 and I always wanted to stealth this heist
Welcome back to the heisting, WuD! Check out the latest heist if you haven't yet (Lost in Transit), it's quite cool and atmospheric :p
And good luck with Dockyard too! Hopefully the guide helps in some aspects :D
@@Marcmb thanks, I play on Xbox so i can’t play the new heists sadly but I do enjoy watching the guides just in case I do get a PC😊
@@wud4484 Oooh I forgot you were a console heister :( Well in that case, there's not _as much_ to do, but still good luck with the Dockyard runs :D
And glad to hear you enjoy watching the PC-only guides regardless, thank you!
This is kinda of a dumb suggestion, but what do you think about a stealth guide for firestarter day 1 or mallcrasher, which are intended to be loud. I have been trying to complete firestarter day one on stealth while playing solo, and it's a very painful experience. I would really like to see someone that is good in the game pointing out an actual consistent strategy at that heist, if there's one.
Hey João! I definitely have plans for both a Mallcrasher guide, and a Firestarter guide (focusing on DAY1). However I first want to focus on the guides for heists with "intended" stealth (because I feel like those will be useful for more heisters). In 2023 I'll try to upload guides with more frequency, so hopefully I'll get to everything soon-ish!
Bain - "There's no advantage in killing civilians".
IDK, if there was any real incentive to keep them alive past your 4th or 5th heist period, I might agree with you Bain.
Very true words indeed. For PAYDAY 3 I'm really hoping there's a better reward system (perhaps some challenges, or tied to XP reward, etc...) to make civilian casualties a lot more relevant and punishing.
Me: mhh I just completed the bomb: dockyard in the least optimal way I could’ve thought off…let’s see if my favourite heister has some clues on how to impro-
This video releases:
:D I guess the video released with perfect timing! I hope I was able to show you some useful / interesting tricks :D
28:28
This truck due to desync can be diffrent for other players
I once joined a friend and I got stuck in one - truck was "open" but it just wouldn't let me get out.
And also 1 weird case where the truck was white for me as host and pink for someone else. They and I could not do any interaction with it.
Oooh that is very very interesting! Sadly I've never seen it myself, but it would be really nice if I could experience it someday :D
Do you mean the truck was white for you and pink for them in the same job or was someone else host when it was pink?
@@fiyahquacker2835 In the same job. I wouldn't mention it otherwise.
Yup yup definitely same job, that is the meaning that I got when I read *@nyancatec's* original message.
@@Marcmb yeah had it happen alot but with bodies while stealthing online. First time confirmed I know of was on scarface mansion where I shotgunned a body into the water but someone else saw it still on the ground nearby. These days I just don't trust it and go for a non-shotgun kill and bag them then throw them over to be safe.
I really hope PD3 takes a lesson and from this heist and gives guards patrol paths instead of having waypoints that they meander between. Sure, it's pretty easy to stealth this heist once you figure out the guard paths, but I just see that as rewarding the player for learning.
Interesting opinion TheTundraTerror! I think a mix of both can be good because easier paths can be fitting for easier heists, but harder heists are nice when the difficulty is turned up to 11. In any case I'm really looking forward to systems that are easy to understand like the pathfinding here!
@@Marcmb I think a mix of both might work. I just prefer the set pathing because a) it makes more sense for guards to have patrol routes in real life and b) it would mean a lot less waiting. Personally, I learn towards the former reason than the latter because I can't think of any security firm that would hire people and go "okay, just meander around". That said, depending on how Payday 3 handles its stealth mechanics to possible include audible cues, that might justify having set paths mechanically.
@@TheTundraTerror As long as they don't make it too easy or mechanically repetitive, I won't mind! :D
Set patrol routes definitely make more sense IRL, although I could also respect some small random variations (like backtracking a bit, or checking a corner every now and then...).
The problem with audible cues done wrong is that the heisting then boils down to "oh 3 guards in my way, let me throw a coin 3 times to get to my destination" which is very repetitive and simple.
@@Marcmb Yeah, anyone whose played the early Hitman games knows how busted the coin can be.
To prevent audible cues being abused, you could give guards come kind of internal cooldown on guards with noise makers. Use it too much (too quickly) and they go for the alarm. Another good idea is what Framing Frame Day 1 does and give us more environmental noise makers. Of course, heavily limiting the amount of coins you can carry/throw would also help. The idea is really just to prevent the "hurry up and wait" gameloop of many stealth heists.
@@TheTundraTerror Very good points yup, as long as they make it balanced, I will agree with anything! Challenge and entertainment are my top 2 priorities, but I trust that they have some new ideas for sure :D We'll see!
Man you make the heist that it's hard due lots of guards and long map to stealth to seem simple to do
Also copycat should be a good deck for this one if go for this heist (either speed or pcm)
Thank you very much Fun! With the knowledge of their pathfinding, the map does become a lot easier to navigate :p Glad you enjoyed the guide!
And indeed, Copycat will be great for this one! For carrying the heavy bomb parts, moving body bags, looting some gold... definitely a great choice!
Iv been doing this for 3 hours straight, im gonna pop a blood vessel soon
Im fucking done with this game, i give up, 4 hours of my life ill never get back
Aww sorry about that ukgigs, this is definitely one of the harshest stealth heists for beginner / intermediate stealthers... sorry it didn't work out!!
@@Marcmb well i kept trying and i eventually did it but i ran out of body bags and got caught when i had 2 bags left, also one of the bags spawned on the other side of the ship so i had to go back around, thanks for your help its definitely gonna help me with my future heists
This is a big oneeee
edit: just realized this is the 69th comment where's my award
👀
Nice! You get a 'NICE' award! Official trophy for getting the 69th comment :p 🏆
And it is a big one yup :D One of the longest guides I've made in a while!
For the pink truck, is it okay to bring a saw ? I guess it's better than waiting for drilling progress (and it's risky to not killing guards that may see the drill)
Hey komangky! Similar to the trucks on Firestarter, you can indeed bring a saw to open the lock. Truck locks are quite weak so you don't really need to bother with saw skills either.
Whoever, keep in mind that it's only a _chance_ that the pink truck will be there, and your concealment will be higher for the entire run in exchange. I personally prefer the drill (since there's so much waiting anyway in all-loot runs), but your call! If you bring it, it will definitely work :)
16:37 Remember - you need the keywawawacard.
Haha! Bain almost became a literal crow for a second there :p
@@Marcmb Indeed!
random question not related to this heist but to pocohud, how do you turn off the numbers that pop up on your screen when your amour/health regens?
Hey chomusucke! I don't know what's the exact setting, but I think they're considered floating labels. Look through those options and see if you can disable the numbers on-screen. If you can't find the setting, reply here and I'll check myself tomorrow when I can launch the game!
@@Marcmb i dont think it is floating labels, the floating labels are like the labels on drills or ai/sentry when if you hover over them, you can see the remaining time or the health of enemy/friendly ai/ sentries
edit: ah nevermind i found it, it is in the damage arc, gain indicator
@@chomusucke192 Ooh I see! Sorry it took a while to get back to this message (busier than I had planned), but I'm glad you were able to find the setting after all :D
Can you check if the silent saw technique is still working??
Since running copycat I'm unable to do it and alerts everyone
Hey spanner! The trick definitely still works yup, we use it daily on our Black Cat ECM rushes because it helps a bit.
Make sure that your saw has the CORRECT mods! It should have SILENT motor and not FAST motor! That might be the issue.
question: Do you use a RNG modifying mod to get screens of all locations or do you just replay over and over?
I think he replays since it could be relatively easy to get the rng
Hey rafarad! For heists that I'm very confident with, I simply restart over and over to get all the screenshots, which also allows me to verify things like the number of spawns per run, any invalid combinations, etc.
However for heists where there are many possibilities and it would be easy to miss a spawn (for example Framing Frame) I use RNG Modifier to cycle through all the possibilities, to make sure I don't miss a single one!
Also recently, Jav (who is experienced with map making) taught me how to check all the spawns from the BeardLib editor, which is quite handy too!
Evil marcmb be like: DSOD Ultimate Loud Guide
In an alternate universe somewhere hahaha :D
How did you walk past that civilian without him detecting you? Everytime I get a bit too close to one they insta detect me.
Hey crimson! I assume you mean for the clip at 1:20. I was just recording the clip to show the keycard spawns, so I wasn't being sneaky at all: if you move like that, you're always very likely to get spotted.
However, the reason I didn't get spotted is pure LUCK: for performance reasons, civs and other NPCs only check their surroundings (to detect if you're nearby) every 2s, so I just happened to slip past him during the time window inbetween 2 consecutive checks.
Could you make one about Black cat or Ukrainian prisoner? Both of them can be done solo under 10 minutes, give 2m+ xp and have quite a bit of things to learn to master them.
Hey Dom! For some of the new heists, you can expect videos soon because they will be parts 3 and 5 of my Solo XP Farming videos. For the rest, which are slightly less XP efficient, I will get to them as well as soon as I can too, but I want to finish the older heists first!
@@Marcmb i agree, finish older heist first. Btw can you make diamond heist (not the diamond)? I suck at it lel
@@nuke_m4n Diamond Heist is indeed one of the next few guides I will do yup. The next one (which is scheduled to release in 4 weeks) will either be Diamond Heist, or Yacht Heist. We'll see!
Isn't the crowbar spawn better than the manisfest in preplanning, since in stealth you can just check every container very quick?
Interesting opinion shooter! Personally I like the manifest just to save time, and because it can come in clutch if you're rushing the end (knowing which 4 containers are candidates ASAP).
However, the truth is that even with the preplanning I suggested, you still have 1 spare favor that you could use on the crowbar :p I personally leave that favor unused, because it reminds me that I'm there for the completion, not for the extra loot! Which prevents me from getting side-tracked.
What's that song in "Crate Spawns"-section?
Hey alex! For that section in particular, the BGM is 'The Take - 2016' (PAYDAY2 Soundtrack; particularly the stealth portion).
@@Marcmb Thank you so much!
ive genuinely been getting a lot better at stealth now i might try this. cant believe i couldnt stealth ukranian job on normal at once point lmao
Haha! Very good to see the improvement manilla. This heist is quite big, but very manageable once you understand what you're going for. If you attempt it, best of luck! :D
There is a lot that's unintuitive and even really bad described.
Like killing civs makes it so much easier, the cash money especially with that one stealth ability where cleaner costs gets reduced is like not felt.
is 500 per bag really that low? its the same on shadow raid and shacklethorne im pretty sure.
Shadow raid is mostly about how it can be done quickly and the armor xp bonus. Shacklethorne gives a thousand per bag and there's like 30 bags
Very good point! I'll reply as well but everything that *@rubykdc9829* said is on point.
Keep in mind that Shadow Raid without the armor is quite bad for XP efficiency.
With that in mind, if you secure just 12 bags, Shadow Raid gives 500 per bag, plus a bonus of 6K for the full armor - so on average it's actually 750 per bag. Combined with the fact that it can be done a lot faster, that's why Shadow Raid can stand as a decent XP farming heist even with a measly 500 XP per bag!
Shacklethorne used to be 0 until a few months ago, but it got recently buffed to 1,000 XP per bag :D The number of artifacts on that heist is *38 / 36 / 35* for the *back / right / left* office spawns.
Diamond heist next please :D
Perhaps! It's either going to be Diamond Heist, or Yacht Heist. And whichever isn't chosen first, will be chosen second!
@@Marcmb Both of these sound great dude, looking forward to more ultimate guides. Best stealth guides on YT
@@williamtess3660 :D Thank you very much! Glad to hear the next to are a good choice :)
I have a question does enabling one down give you more XP ?
Hey Saibot! Sadly there's no XP effect from the One Down modifier. Literally all it does is lower your downs from 3 to 1, and give you access to the One Down achievements.
it’s been 84 years…
...and it's finally here! Better late than never I guess haha :D
thx your useful guide! i did it second attempt, luckily :)
now there's only bomb forest left for all Butcher's contracts dsod... damn bomb forest is fkin' impossible! i need a bomb forest "stealth" guide, anyone?! Xd
the phone was on the right side but the computer was on the left side, so after calling the phone i had to go all the way around to interact computer Xd but once always better than twice yeah? :D
Good job Antonio! Glad the guide was useful, thank you very much :D
Bomb: Forest is indeed going to be a bit of a pain. Sadly loud only, but it's quite doable once you get used to it!
@@Marcmb Yeah, get used to it! :D I mean get used to downs Xd that's quite a bit of a pain to be told not recommended to use my favorite hacker build Xd
good 👍
Thank you very much Mr. Source 😃👍
44:48 too slow to make the gap huh?
Haha :D I think I was just too distracted thinking about where were the remaining crates, so I forgot where I was and fell into the gap. However it turned out I was going headed for the building right in front of me, so it didn't matter much :p
Although it's true that with Yakuza you can just sprint forward, fully ignoring the gap :D
There are many places here where the body bag trick will work including inside train carts, on top of crates and probably on top of the train carts. If you're lucky you can definitely get multiple stuck with one bag.
Good point yup! At some point I want to revisit some of the heists, and show how they can be broken with the body bag trick... Shadow Raid is a good example, Alesso in some areas... However for the stealth guides I prefer showcasing them without explots, because that feels more "fair" :p
@@Marcmb especially if its not really worth it.
for counterfeit using the faulty ai is basically the only way to have a long enough stealth part to get everything done.
for the train heist it means you don't have to worry about any guards in the main part once the setup is done. which is a huge deal.
but for shadow raid it would basically mean you can additionally get rid of cams i guess.
doing the trick in this heist doesn't seem worth it when they are so many guard free areas anyway and they aren't very annoying with their path finding.
@@mauer1 most of the time its definitely not worth it but it is fun to find new places on jobs where it does work. For the train heist I really don't bother with the trick because I like to make it harder by doing a no kill run which is definitely fun to try since you have to dominate the 4 guards that wander close to the front of the train then tie down the nearby civs. Only issue with the run is that it basically forces you to bring a saw.
@@fiyahquacker2835
i think you can ecm unlock the doors while the drill is on them.
when thats true you can drill stuck the last guard on top of the train
@@mauer1 Definitely yes! If I end up having time to get to those videos, I will start with the ones that benefit from it the most. Exactly as you say, Counterfeit was the most obvious case because the entire strategy relied on it, but in most heists there's not much to gain, other than the fun of playing around with the AI.
And to clarify the point that you two brought up about Train Heist, yes you can indeed get guards stuck by ECM-unlocking the doors while they're loudly being drilled. You can also use a keycard for the same effect, or even force open the door with a saw to also remove the loud drill - same thing in all 3 cases!
Loud build pls
I'm not the best for loud builds :( Check out Carrot or KevKild or Uncle Geldgeil or Bay1k or Ace!
@@Marcmb :(
@@LouroTenebroso Sorry :(
nono its 22:13 aim
Ooh that's quite close actually! If I had timed that a bit better, that clip could've been at 20:22 in the video :D
Also known as a really annoying loud and stealth heist.
Sometimes yup... in my opinion, the worst part about playing the heist loud, is that Bile takes forever to bring you the C4 to blow up the dock gates. So it goes from a really fast-paced objective of finding the keycards and placing them, to waiting for the helicopter...
Still you won't make me like the heist! >:(
What about border crossing!
It's a good heist Kyro!! Now that I've posted the guide and there's no excuses for failing, expect me to host it a lot more often on the CrimeNET lobbies :p
*@legendsapeks6168* - Border Crossing is good too, but Dockyard better!!!
when is NIGHTCLUB you goofball?
Literally
Soon, likely.
No one wants a Nightclub guide Idio! :mock
I'm trying to finish the old good heists so that I can move on to the new City of Gold ones!
But yes we can say soon™ for this one. Soon™ yes.
Just restart til no cams - bring a rocket launcher, an ammo bag and 2 fully upgraded ecms and you can see where this is going.
@@fiyahquacker2835 uh you are CRAZY if you think I'm going to bring that to stealth. ECMS are USELESS for stealth and so are saws. also if I bring an rpg that will bring me to 75 detection rate! You clearly don't know much about stealth so this guide would help you the most.
hour long :skull:
Haha! Very long guide indeed, there was a lot to mention. Fortunately you can skip the final 15 minutes because that's only about going for all loot, which isn't very XP efficient but I still wanted to mention it!
Big Boat
Big Boat indeed! Would be nice if there was some more loot in the actual boat :p
@@Marcmb I mean.... Breaking bad boat spinoff is real.....
@@nuke.florida I wouldn't mind a Yacht Heist where you're actually cooking in the middle of the sea! That could be a very nice concept :D
Happy new year and off to a explosive start eh? PD3 are upon us and the remaining 550+ achievement stares 🫠
Happy New Year Arthus! Explosive start indeed: really looking forward to PAYDAY 3!