Team Fortress 2 Retrospective
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มิ.ย. 2024
- Analyzing Team Fortress 2's impact and discussing its timeless mechanical depth, personality, and more.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:04 Prologue - Worth the Wait
6:44 Meet the Team - Scout
13:17 Meet the Team - Soldier
18:42 Meet the Team - Pyro
26:51 Meet the Team - Demoman
31:42 Meet the Team - Heavy
35:41 Meet the Team - Engineer
42:13 Meet the Team - Medic
46:03 Meet the Team - Sniper
50:11 Meet the Team - Spy
56:21 The Personality of TF2
1:02:39 The Current State of TF2
1:17:41 Conclusion
Music used:
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Sources:
"Ride Behind You" remix by Alex Giudici • Team Fortress 2 - Ride...
"Playing with Danger" remix by Mastgrr • Team Fortress 2 Music-...
Black-Suited Spider-Man cover by Niall Stenson • Black Suit Spider-Man ...
"Rocket Jump Waltz" piano cover by Stantough • Team Fortress 2 Rocket...
Quake Team Fortress footage • Quake Team Fortress (Q...
The Pybro • [SFM] The Pybro
Teleporter Etiquette • Teleporter Etiquette
Remove Random Crits from TF2 • Remove Random Crits Fr...
How it FEELS to play Sniper • How it FEELS to Play S...
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Some follow-up notes:
- A section on MVM and a section on self-expression in cosmetics were both scrapped as they broke the flow of the video. I would have liked to touch upon these, but I couldn't find a place for them. Sorry to disappoint.
- I considered a section discussing the TF2 economy, but I figured it would be really dry. Hunting for unusuals, trading, etc. Most veteran players have done it before and it bores me to talk about it.
- I may have said that I have been playing since the Orange Box, but that doesn't mean I've been playing regularly. I played a bit in 2007, then again in 2009, then again when it went free to play, and then I took a long break from it until Jungle Inferno. So I am by no means familiar with EVERYTHING this game went through!
- I dislike higher viewmodel FOVs on most guns (with the exceptions of the Direct-Hit and Demo's grenade launchers). I know that's going to make a few people upset but idc lol it's how I like to play. This is more of a personal thing, but I know I'll be getting countless comments about it anyway!
Thanks for watching, and I hope you enjoyed!
Love your vids man, keep up the fun Valve content
I see an upload by this guy and I click. Easy as that
I can understand the need to take a break from the game. I was sold on TF2 from the moment it was announced making a day-one purchase mandatory. I've played the game for years but sometimes you just need to give the game a break. I'm sure there are people that have played all the way through because as you said in the video, there are still moments worth playing for. Games like Overwatch have waxed and waned while TF2 has been around, I wonder sometimes if Valve ever expected Team Fortress 2 to have the legs that it has. I don't think anyone that coded the game could have expected it to morph into the beast it now is. Thank goodness the Pyro was given the airblast for example. Previously the only way to take on a soldier as Pyro was to try to jump over his rockets and hope the splash propelled you closer to the enemy. I enjoyed this video for the summary of the game as it is now since delving into the "back in my day" talk probably would have bogged it down too much. I am sad that TF2 is unlikely to evolve much further now and the loss of Rick May making new soldier lines impossible, but it's given me more hours of fun than a game has any right to. I bet a lot of lapsed TF2 players still remember having a favorite weapon with a custom name or description or a beloved cosmetic. The game was great value before it went free to play.
If you have already filmed and narrated those parts you took off, perhaps you might want to consider releasing them as an addendum.
I actually recommend a video by Aar about the default settings on tf2 like for view models. Also try out some custom huds on HUD.tf
"Let's analyze Engineer"
>starts the round dead.
Sums up Engineer pretty well.
Hahah truuu
Let's analyze the sticky bomb louncher shows losse cannon "yea that seems about right"
TheFlippedSides my nest got destroyed, can’t have shit in Detroit
[sad yee]
@@elitemakyrgaming180 Teleporter was stolen, can't have shit in Detroit
TF2 is literally just *too* good to die. Valve put a child in the middle of a city and it survived.
Like the kid survived, because the citizens decided to take care of him, we are the comunity that now should take care of Tf2, really nice comment
Then bots offered it some candy
@@tacotuesday2489 and it gone in a suspicious white truck
@@digojez because magick
im here from the ornage box who else are OG's
a scout using the teleporter is the equivalent of parking in a handicap space when you don't need it
As I scout main, there is only 1 time where I use the teleporter.
If something VERY annoying has managed to block the way to the front lines. Like a sneaky Engie or something. But when then, I always let heavies and medics go first.
@@AJSSPACEPLACE correct, it's for sigma males
depressingly accurate.
oh, i do that all the time! i should start playing more scout..
This is something scout would do in canon.
44:50 "Make sure to Z+2 to thank your medic."
Demoman when you press Z+2: "I didn't need your help ya know"
:(
:(
F2P’s “text communication is not available on this account”
Tsundere Demo
I feel very lucky as demoman. he only ever says "I didn't need your help, ya know" if someone stole my kill.
@cat with camera BUY A GUN
"Tf2 is a timeless masterpiece" Special Edition
23:20 just listen the way he says “air blast”... That’s a total copy of lazy purple expressions. He should do videos at his own style, not by copying other youtubers
Alejandro Tang he said it like that because just like lazy, he realizes it’s a fun mechanic with a high skill ceiling. Also, he credited and said he wasn’t trying to copy lazy multiple times.
Zay oh so sorry zay i didn’t mean it that way. I was just so pissed off he wanted to copy lazy but now I realize he didn’t. Thx anyways !
@Bunneer it's not COPIED it's INSPIRED. There's a lots of common opinions, just because Lazy did a video about it first doesn't mean he was the first to think it. He admited Lazy was one of his main inspirations, and you can't blame him! But you don't have to be rude just because he did something similar, it's the internet! It's life, you can't not get inspired by the things you like. And also i feel like you're putting lazy a little too high? No that he doesn't deserve it, he's a great dude, but i feel you're gloryfying him and that won't be good for you nor for him, because you WILL get dissapointed at the littlest thing you disagree with him and he will be put under so much pressure. Sorry, i overextended a little bit, but i hope you have a good day/night, and if not, hope it all gets better.
(Also hope i didn't sound rude or super mad about it, i just loose it a little when people say 'A copied B!' Just because B is more known than A, and specially when they put B on the top)
(Edit: grammar/spelling check)
14:13 CAN. YOU. AIRBLAAAAAAAAAST
I was an original TFC player, and a beta tester for team fortress 2. Can sum up my experience in three words. Worth the wait.
That's really cool. Do you still play the game?
Holy shit, and your even a ss13 player
Don't do that,, don't give me hope,,
Holy shit man. Its you
Kool
“This is a bucket”
“Dear God”
“There’s more”
“No...”
It containes a bucket
Dear God
There's more
No
It containes a bucket
(And so on and so forth)
Dear god
There’s more
No
It’s containes a bucket
Fucking legend
It contains the dying wish of every man here...
Scout, you did collect everyone's dying wish?
@@blackfeathers2166 you bet!
One time, I was playing medic with the stock medi-gun when this scout comes out of nowhere, just quenched his thirst with the Crit-A-Cola, and I had to pop my uber. I started using it on this spy that was the only one there, the entire enemy team was 1 door away, and he gets the craziest chainstab I have ever seen. Best. Uber. Ever.
how just HOW?!
I didn't know the original TF team was Australian. Suddenly everything makes sense
Same
You've never heard the voice of robin walker?
Yea that seems about right
@@LimeyLimer CRIKEY !!
I did not know that only person i thought was the snoiper
7:59
Liam: "In an effort to define how scout can contribute in a team fight"
Still Liam: **brutally steals a medkit from a burning teammate**
Yeah, and he was at like 75% health
That’s the job of the scout though.
@@Omegaset dude, 7:59 that's not even a third of his health.
@@scottjefferson4048 A scout has 125 health. 75 health is 60%.
33:46 Can we all just take a sec to appreciate how his team’s Sniper just eliminated that Spy who could’ve easily backstabbed the Heavy, headshotting the Spy just as he jumps down into the pit with him??? What a team player!!!
Lol the way spy’s body just flies past the camera
it wasn't a headshot tho
PROFESSIONALS HAVE STANDARDS
Things like this is what makes tf2 such a great game.
Nice
I love how he played the robot theme while introducing the sniper
"A skilled pyro is what any team needs!"
Me with no skill, still playing pyro:
i just want pyros skill floor to be higher so newer players actually have to TRY instead of running into the enemy team.
NERD
@@cutx1 if a pyro is walking in a straight line towards you in casual, not knowing how to airblast, just shoot him twice
@@Spartan-sz7km theres not many maps with enough space, plus there are too many factors like if you are distracted. you also might be low on hp. "just shoot him twice" isn't the best way to say it.
@@cutx1 I get what you mean, if you're low hp and you get ambushed by a pyro, it feels cheap because they just have to hold m1 and you die to afterburn. But there's always something you could do to avoid that scenario, maybe pre-aim the corner if you think a pyros flanking etc. Most of the time if you die to a pyro, he was in an advantageous situation. The best counter to pyro is just being aware or press S
I showed "expiration date" to my best friend and then found out she bingewatched all the "Meet the classes" videos. And she doesn't even play games...
Keep her
Tf2 is for everyone, even people who dont play the games. She could even read the comics if she is craving more of the amazing characters
Shove comics down their throat
This comment thread has gotten progressively more aggressive.
Make her play the game by gunpoint
"Demo made me feel like a SCUMBAG"
"So my favorite spy loadout is the diamondback and Kunal..."
Jokes aside great video, though you sold demo and pyro a bit short at times I feel, I'm glad to see a video which seeks to put TF2 in historic perspective and analyse what made it work.
“Deadringer allows you to outsmart your enemies”
I really hope someone from valve sees this and other community efforts and realizes how important it is to us. please keep developing it valve. or just give it to the community
Facts, valve should just give it to the community, or the community will just steal the code and make TF3 :>
Tbh i think valve is working on something maybe, i mean it did take them 9 years to make this game
I’d rather half life 3
The first thing I ever heard about this game was when a friend told me about this fat man who eats a sandwich and goes "om nom nom, nom nom"
Lmao
yes
Fat man Nom om 2
And that ladies and gentlemen is why we originally loved Heavy.
@@ZJRLT IT'S COWARD KILLING TIME !!!
22:37 talking about Volcano Fragment as a legitimate weapon with straight face takes a lot of personality
That's what I was thinking hahaha
unrelated but i noticed super gore nest was playing on the heavy section
The volcano fragment and sun on a stick always made me sad with having such a waste of cool weapon designs
I don't get it, it's an *OK* weapon, why do you hate it ?
@@arustwat7766 because you can do fire damage with a flamethrower or flare at longer ranges, and the only time you pull out melee is for a. utility or b. to finish someone off when you're desperate.
since the svf does less damage per hit but ignites enemies it's not good for finishing people since it does less burst damage which is why you'd want to use melee anyways, and it provides 0 utility compared to the powerjack, backscratcher, and homewrecker. useless.
The part about Valve having abandoned this game, with videos spanning one, two, three years back all mentioning the same thing, feels so painful now. Valve really did let the game and its community go. Nowadays, only the occasional developer over at Valve will willingly go and bug fix TF2 on their downtime. That's all we're able to get. Once a while during holidays they pick up a few community cosmetics to ship out as well. That's it. The game, as far as updates go, is dead in the water. But in terms of community size, and active player base, it's bigger than it's ever been! Insane to think about.
good news
@@pkfiremain710 better news
bad news
2Fort at 2Am will forever be Super fun, effectively a better VRchat, were everyone is a memer. Also, animations are still quite loved, Pootis Engage and it's recent sequel are perfect examples.
2fort at 2am is a real experience.
There's definitely some "How it feels to play" inspiration here. I love it.
Especially with that scout part
Yeah it’s a good series to be inspired by lol
@@playgrounds6159 the pyro part was such an obvious reference as well, p good stuff
"How it feels to play tf2"
or, in other words....
It’s funny how I didn’t play this game until three years ago, yet I’ve watched so many tf2 videos that it felt like I’ve been playing this game since it’s launch.
Wow that is way to similar to me I even started three years ago too
I started 5 years ago but I feel the same
ive been playing for 4 years and have watch every important/good tf2 video out there. Id assume ive spent atleast 5,000 on tftubing
I've been playing for almost a decade and the game never gets old. I do miss the old days of tf2. Things were simple back then.
same here
I discovered this game on July 10, 2020 through LazyPurple's video called "how it FEELS to play Pyro" and I've been absolutely hooked ever since then
I don’t know how you avoided it due to the meet the videos, and the memes in general, but interesting.
@@joshshrum2764probably just a newer internet user
“I was worried it was going to seem redundant... I’m still a small fish in a big pond... I feel so inferior to all these creators I look up to.”
Ironic, I could say the same about me towards you :)
It’s all for the passion, the creative outlet, and sharing what we care about man!
"less classes should share weapons"
shotgun: * looks away *
Pistol: *slowly backs out the door*
Melee reskins: *jumps out window*
Golden pan: *jumps off a 20 story building*
Andr0meda that’s technically a melee reskin
@@flashallen4419 frying pan : Well technically i'm a promotional item so...
"Dis-is-Spencer."
Oh my God.
@@randomguy555 lmao
Bud spencer....
Pootis Spencer here
@@lunaticzeroone he said demo mains
Poot tis Spencer here
what i love about TF2, is the Characters are more than just a classes merc. they'er more like the individual characters instead. and each character has rich personality
I’ve been following TF2 for ages because I was drawn by the characters, style, and animated shorts, but I could never really get into it because none of my friends had the means to play the game and I don’t like getting into a game by myself. I thought my salvation had come in the form of Overwatch, and for a while it did. I had a ton of fun with my time in Overwatch and I don’t regret my time with it. It had the varied characters, a fun art style, and great cinematics that drew me in, like with TF2, and I dug out my own little niche by becoming a Lucio main and getting really good with him. It also brought me years of fun with my friends, which is what we were really looking for. But now, after finally getting back to wanting to get into TF2 after Overwatch kinda died within my friend group, I wondered why the game my friends and I had loved and played for hours on end failed to keep us hooked but TF2 seemingly has an endless, timeless quality to it that Overwatch somehow doesn’t seem to have despite the clear passion put into the game by the devs. And I think I finally have the answer. Both the style and story telling of TF2 is far more timeless than something like Overwatch. That plus Overwatch doesn’t really have any mechanical depth. It’s a very rigidly made game as it is more designed for competitive play, and I guarantee the devs saw things like rocket jumping, untelegraphed instant kill abilities, and other such abilities as not balanced, so there is no mechanical depth. You can merely get better at the fixed and rigid tools they give you, with no really room for experimentation. That is fine for a competitive game, but I don’t think competitive games are necessarily built to last in the same way that something like TF2 is.
But alas, with TF2 being left in the state that it is, being Valve’s lack of a desire to push meaningful content to it anymore, it being NOT noob friendly in the slightest, and the game riddled with bots, it really just seems like the best course of action Valve could take would be to just make TF3 or some kind of TF2 successor. It is sad, but I don’t think it is fair for us to make Valve work on the same game for the rest of time. I mean, these are the guys that freaking made Half-Life, L4D, Portal, and TF2 itself! These guys make great fucking games. Sure, you may be thinking whatever successor they make likely won’t be as innovative and timeless as TF2 is, and other such things and I understand that. But I think being able to accept the parent company of something wants to move on is important, both for invigorating new passion in the devs but also for allowing new members to join the community more easily. I’m sure the community surrounding TF2 would continue to go strong for years following the release of its successor, much like how Smash Bros Melee still has a massive community following it despite no support from the parent company since its original release and THREE sequels. But I think allowing Valve to move on and make new things is extremely important.
As Rick May once said: “Good news we’re not dying we are going to live forever!” always implement that into the state of tf2 because this game will forever be a timeless masterpiece
„I did not say zat“
Haha timeless masterpiece that's what the purple man said
PrismFoxes I just said we’re not filled with tumors!
Oh thank god
The real question is why you have a banner of a foot
Piemations “meet the Amazing team” was my first time with tf2, so i thank him for everything
Boom! I am full of freakin' magic!
Same here man somehow that is what got me into tf2.
Slap my hand.
Slap it now
Same here
As an introverted cave troll, I almost always feel welcomed and comfortable talking to people in this game cuz a lot of people are so funny and nice
woa i didnt realise how long this video is. the amount of effort put into this video is amazing and it definitely paid off, keep up the work!
“Team Fortress 2: The Localization Files Update”
Dear god no more valve PLEASE!
those localization files must be so advanced by now
27:35 "i can t believe that worked"
-every demo main after they come up with an idea
HAHAHAHAHA :D
Oh man that's one of the best comments in the video
I love this, it's so accurate
Literally my friends favorite line every time he plays, he’s a demo main. Mines is holy crap I can’t aim *gets a headshot* wow I guess I can *dies to anything* nvm I’m dead
Simp
@@unaltediinunivers5339 incel
I’m just starting out playing TF2 and no matter how many times I play I will always have a big stupid grin on my face and I always thank valve for making this masterpiece of a game. Nice work and I love your retrospectives on some of my favorite game franchises! Excellent job man!
“I guess people see medics ability to keep the team alive as overwhelming”
It is
But that’s the fun part just the constant rush of adren- oh god everyone’s dead and I’m in the middle of the entire enemy team- speaking of adrenaline!
list of projectiles that can be no u'd back as pyro:
-rockets (including those from sentries)
-eyeballs (during halloween)
-baseballs (and ornaments)
-flares
-jars (mad milk, jarate, gas canisters)
-arrows
-crossbow syringes (NOT the syringe guns' syringes, but who uses the syringe guns anymore)
-cleavers
-grenades
-engie's rescue ranger projectiles
-engie's hadouken
list of other useful things that can be no u'd back as pyro:
-ignited teammates
-enemies (esp those near cliffs/ledges)
-ubered medics
-medics in general
-someone you've just ignited
-d e m o k n i g h t s
-trolldiers
-scouts that you really wanna piss off
-anything that you really wanna piss off
-spies trying their damnedest to trickstab you
-bomb-carriers in MvM
have fun with m2, firebugs.
But not the Bison? Please nerf Volvo, OP.
Take demoknights off that list you cant ruin the pub fun. (I will come to your house and steal your poptarts if you are blast me back then shoot a flare at me again)
@@cowthedestroyer just get a 200 meter long sword
@@theblandcharlie822 *Swing speed -90%*
*Spy* :The class that Nobody likes, but Everyone plays.
*Medic* : The class that Everybody likes, but Noone plays.
Me, seeing two or three medics in almost every game: yeah, NOONE...
@@1FenFen1 it was a reference to the honest trailer of tf2
@@financialproblems9308 ah yes...
*HOW COULD I BE SO dumB!*
Friend, may I introduce you to... UBERCHAINING
When things go bad I go medic
I know this video is almost 3 years old at this point, but honestly thank you so much for the content that you create and I absolutely love this video. I love your retrospect videos, I’ve watched your one about the Wii and GameCube, and as someone who’s just started playing TF2 (yep, in 2023)… this one piqued my interest. You’ve covered so many things that are still actuate about the modern state of the game even 3 years later, and I actually learned a thing or 2 about some of the classes. I know this is just a silly TH-cam comment on an older video, but you always make your videos so personal and I feel compelled to share my experience with the game. You also always really drive home the whole point of video games - to have fun! And that’s what I’ve been doing with TF2 for the few months I’ve been playing. I play with my best friend at least once a week and we’ve already been having a blast, I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard at some of our shenanigans. Anyway, thank you for your content man, you always remind me about what’s important about these games we play. Community, connection and fun. Thank you!! :D👍
I'm shaking and crying rn, you didn't mention pyro combos
Great video! Or should I say... great feature-length movie!? It's always great to hear more validation for loving TF2. I appreciate the time you took on each class to describe what makes them fun on their own individual merit. Videos like this really put into perspective just how much of an enigma TF2 is in the scope of modern video games, and makes me proud to play it and be a part of the community. TF2 is definitely lightning in a bottle and it's crazy to think about how long it's stayed popular - often beating out the relevancy of more mainstream games that have proceeded it. Just goes to show how rewarding gameplay along with spectacular character design majorly affects the longevity of a game. Current and future game developers could certainly learn some valuable lessons from the philosophy behind the way TF2 is built. My only complaint is with the devs' lack of communication and the update droughts, but that seems to be an overall flaw of Valve as a company. (Also, random crits...) Still, TF2 is definitely here to stay and I sincerely believe it will be a very long time before it's completely irrelevant within the genre it popularized. Again, great video! Subbed :)
Well said.
Can we get a peek at what your next video will be?
You took the words right out of my mouth, Dane! Like seriously, you perfectly sum up how I feel wtf. This game is an enigma for how long it has last. And despite Valve neglecting it, I still have a lot of fun with this game. And I dont think ill get tired of it for a long while.
TF2 is the definition of fun
I like that uncle dane shows some passion for the game. Its like so many content creators were only there for the hype. very lame.
Low key “A timeless masterpiece” but longer
literally this, especially sniper and soldier
yeah and also the creator of the video seems to not be that great at tf2
@@finmin2k So what's wrong with that?
Let's not get crazy, Lazypurple's video's are legitimate god tier experiences. This is just a really good retrospective
@@normienormie9425 I meant that more as this:
He doesn't know very much about tf2. A whole lot about what he said about... well, everything seemed uninformed or just plain wrong.
Don't forget one of the things keeping new players away is the fact that most lobbies will kick you if you have no cosmetics or decide to don the gibus because either you're new, or they think you're a bot.
Never seen that in casual
@@FNicky91 I used to see it really often, not so much anymore.
yeah, not really a thing anymore, thank god.
This is the second video of yours I’ve watched with the first being the one on Sonic soundtracks. I really like your content. Really nice to listen to at work. Thank you.
Demoman described in a single sentence
“Shit I missed,oh never mind”
After all these years I still play it, TF2 has a special place in my heart.
Mine too
Games may come and go but tf2 is forever!
Trust me, all the storm troopers practice their aim on sniper there.
This game is just the definition of fun
1:18:53 these few lines made me emotional. You perfectly encapsulated why I love TF2 but couldn’t word it in a way that expressed how much I love it.
Oh look, this video is in my recommended again. Welp, time for a rewatch! Love this vid it's so good 🧡
What if vavle is planning to be like HL:A and being silent for years.
Then come up with a major update...
hm
Thats a nice dream.
honestly that's kinda what i believe
valve has been hard at work with source 2 and half life alyx and maybe that's why they have been silent with pretty much anything else
..then again DOTA artifact exists..
I mean, they said they would make 2 more vr games
@@EverWolf VR TF and VR Portal
Proto_Dodo yes, If portal VR happens I would die a happy man
@@PrototheDodo They already have VR Tf2,
I bought the orange box
the day *BEFORE* the update when it went free
Legitimately the worst feeling ever xD
But I don't mind, cause Valve games are worth every penny I give to them
feelsbadman
yikes...
Well I mean, ya do still get portal 2 and all the half life 2’s, so not a terrible purchase lmao
I mean your P2p and you can chat.
@@rubiepie I guess, and you get a free hat too.
I love this, thank you very much💕
It makes me sad to think that one day the game just might die, but untill that day comes I will play it and enjoy with everyone else. It has found me at my worse and having the chance to forget about everything and laugh, concentrate or strategize with every class is a magical thing that only this game is able to pull off. Thank you so much for this video, it was worth absolutely every fcking second, hope it gets all of the views it deserves and it pushes the community more than it has already done it.
...
I'm so mad that you didn't talk about The Direct Hit
Rip Rick May.
It’s so sad that he’s gone, but I love that his memory will not only be memorialized by this game, but also this incredible video.
23:20
Funny story about air blast. One time I was playing Hoodoo and this soldier had a medic with kritzkreig. The combo turned the corner in the balcony between the second and third point while I was running down. The soldier fired a single crocket and I panic reflected it, killing him instantly. I think he actually disconnected or something.
Then the medic ran back and gave the heavy crits and annihilated us.
You had me in the first half not gonna Lie
😂😂
Eh, pretty much every casual round I've played
Nice
TF2 is the game that had the biggest or one of the biggest impacts on me in my life. I've struggled with depression and anxiety for years, but whenever I went on TF2 and got the winning cap as heavy, pushed an uber into a ravine as pyro, solo healed my whole team while we were defending the choke as medic or just went on a community trade server and taunted with some f2ps, hearing and seeing the gratitude and joy from people even if it's a simple z+2 or gg at the end of the match made me keep going. There's something seriously special about this game, and it's deeper than the sum of its parts, the community made it what it is, the community will keep it going.
Same, Whenever I'm sad or just mad I play TF2 to get all the pain away, TF2 will always hold a special place in my heart 😁
Same here, i was going through a crisis, and it just pulled me out of it, feeling alive again as i was playing all the classes :)
Also a direct hit from the Scotch shot has the ability to hit twice and even Mini-crit twice
They don't make them like they used to, an understatement at best. Wow was this video masterfully done and a trip down memory lane.
Growing up in the time i did and witnessing so many "rises" of multiplayer games and MMORPG's, whether it was Old School Runescape, Maplestory to Flyff, to Modern Warfare 2, Black Ops, TF2, Battlefield Bad Company 2 / BF3 all of them truly were timeless classics and Team Fortress 2 was one i played religiously after school.
This video was thoroughly enjoyable, stellar work Liam !
Question: Will TF2 ever die?
Answer: nope.avi
You're quite a poet, and you simply don't know it
i don't play it anymore after it was officially put on hold and invaded by hackers, but damn it lives on in my heart
@@axmoylotl thats why we have creator.tf
Been playing since 2012, but never really went in as deep as other people
I just like playing the game
Yes if Valve doesn't clean up their act
I've done nothing but teleport bread for 3 days
this is the actual first comment on this video, amazing
Vere? Where were have you been sending it!?
Wait, how was the comment posted 3 hours ago, but the reply was posted 4 hours ago?
@@SpaceCore2053 The dark side of the force grants many abilities some consider to be...unnatural
I TELEPORTED BREAAAAAAAAD
That Hilltop Zone transition was perfection. Lovin' your scoring, esp the occasional Metroid track
3:24
it may not have the same textures as the modern day version, but I can tell that, is the final section of dustbowl.
1:22 "Theres only so much I can say that hasnt been said"
*LITERALLY 1 HOUR 22 MINUTE VIDEO*
@Liam Triforce
Noballs The 7 hour TF2 special video when?
timestamped at 1 minute and 22 seconds. can't tell if you did that intentionally.
I’ve tried getting into TF2 like 5 times throughout my life
Every single time I played maps like 2fort and dustbowl
Every single time I primarily played capture the flag maps
Aaaand now you’re telling me THATS why the game wasn’t fun, not the game itself. Wow I feel like I ordered the wrong thing as a great restaurant and never came back.
yikes, I really do likke dustbowl though, hope you like the game now :D
Yikes, dustbowl is extremely fun but not for everyone especially in the beginning. I think ctf is just hot garbage so yeah. Try out payload.
Hell's Redeemer payload’s my fav and I think why dustbowl is so rough for me is cause it’s tough for me to play my favorite classes on it. Like, I’m not crazy to say scout and spy suck on that choke pointy map?
Try the king of the hill maps. Those are amazing.
@@ultgamercw6759 Actually I got really really into upward and badwater! I actually bought a key and used trading sites to get every weapon. I really got into the game.
But the bots and small match sizes got me out of the game. For now at least ~
I've been an off and on TF2 player since the early days of TF2, when it came out on Mac and a friend of mine bootlegged it onto people's school laptops.
This video is spot on and I'm not ashamed to admit, I cried watching your blurb over Rick May. His performances touched a lot of people, and his genuine warmth in-person hit many more.
This is the most ballanced and neutral in-depth analisys of the game, and the classes that I've seen. Superb job.
"If God wanted you to live, he wouldn't had created ME!" is one of the most hilarious threats I've ever heard in my entire life. I should use that whenever any of my friends and I get into an arguement. and then when it seems like they were gonna end the conversation. I'd use my trap card and say the phrase
"If God wanted you to live, then he wouldn't created ME!"
Take that sHaWn!!!
Nathanial is on a > 10 killstreak
[ *Nathaniel 🤬 is DOMINATING Shawn* ]
If god wanted you to live he wouldn’t have created me!
Rick May was an amazing voice actor
being a fan of tf2 really makes me hate valve for some reason. I know its an old game but tf2 has affected valve as a company so much I really feel it, and its players, have deserved so much more recognition... valve needs to treat their customers like customers and not like money-cows. Im really disappointed tbh as a childhood fan of team fortress
if valve was so greedy they would be like EA games and make the game completely p2w. otherwise the only thing you need to pay to get is hats. (even then you can trade for hats without paying a single penny)
Valve actually still cares about TF2, they just needed to fulfill something they had been needing to do for 13 years, another half life game. HL fans have waited 13 years for a game and we have waited 3 for a major update, plus it is the series that started valve entirely
i think people take tf2 for granted, the fact that valve is even still working on it at all is amazing. There really arent that many game companies that push out updates for 13 years
Mention Ethan good point but god damnit you just reminded me this game will inevitably die out and took me out of the euphoria of the casual server I was in.
@@Mate-vg2ft I remember there being a jazz song playing when I opened TF2 for the first time. I was a spy, and dear God I did not know anything, but it felt nice to play as a sneaky baguette man who honked and honked and blew away someone when I backstabbed them. Later in the game, it was a 2 v 3, as many people started leaving en masse for whatever reason, and despite my newcomer stance, me and another gentleman coordinated hard and won the game. After that, we had a private melee-only Soldier and Scout fight. I don't think newer players can ever get that kind of interaction, as I played that game a few months ago. It's sad, really. God knows what could happen if the game keeps going the direction it is going now, and granted, it won't be a good direction.
The TF2 theme will forever be one of the most iconic video game themes ever
This game is a childhood favorite of mine, and even if I wasn’t able to be there for all of the updates, moments and such from in between there early beginnings and now, I still loved the moments that created myself
"Retrospective"?
It's not over yet, man. Not yet.
definitely not, tf2 is nowhere near dying
Not if anything to say about we have
“As long as there are 2 people left on the planet, someone is gonna want someone dead”
Sniper
@@loganc23 "Good News! We are not dying! We are going to live forever!"
-Soldier
RIP Rick May
Yeah, this Game still alive
This was one of the best analysis videos on TF2 I have seen. I'm not a veteran, but I have 2k hours so I have some knowledge of the game. Here are some things that I want to add to the video:
-Pyro: Pyro often gets hate because of his ability to stomp bad/new players without much effort. But once you fight sentient players he becomes much more difficult to play. He somewhat designed to be a combo class, quickly switching between weapons to maximize damage. You can pull off some insane plays combining fire, airblast, the flare gun, and the axtinguisher. Check out the youtuber Sketchek for some amazing examples.
-Spy: Spy is considered by almost everyone to be the weakest class in TF2 and the problem comes down to his fundamental design. He relies on the enemy team being distracted, something that you cannot control. Playing spy really becomes difficult in organized competitive matches. You hardly ever see him picked and when you do he is almost always switched after dying or getting a kill.
-Movement: God this is by far my favorite part of TF2. Something about the source engine movement in this game is just perfect. It might just be because TF2 was the game that taught me how to play FPS but I find that a lot of modern shooters really lack in this department. TF2 allows for air-strafing by pressing a directional key instead of W and smoothly moving your mouse in the direction you want to go. Taking advantage of air-strafing is probably one of the biggest differences between a casual player and a pubstomper. It is super important for rocket jumping as soldier, double jumping as scout, and surviving damage as medic. Rocket jumping especially is something that has kept me playing tf2. I've spent full nights on jump maps practicing the mechanic and I still don't think im good enough.
-Competitive: I don't know what you meant by saying highlander was the preferred competitive type because I think most people agree that 6s is the format is king. The issue with competitive TF2 is that the game was not designed with competitive play in mind. This can be seen in some class designs (spy) and a lot of the map designs (CTF). The community has done a pretty good job creating their own 6s format that works. Unfortunately this means weapon bans, class restrictions, and a very limited map pool. Valve ""recently"" seam to have been updating weapons with competitive play in mind but there are still issues in Valve's version of competitive. It really is a shame that competitive TF2 never took off competitively because I think it would make a fantastic esport. The youtuber FUNKe has a great video about tf2 as an esport and I recommend you check it out.
This video is a great introduction to your channel for me and I'm sure to check out some of your other stuff. Keep them comming-
PS: I would recommend using the following console commands. TF2s default interp rates are disgusting and cause a noticeable delay when firing projectile weapons.
cl_interp 0 (the delay between firing and the projectile coming out)
cl_interp_ratio 2 (prevents packet loss caused by cl_interp 0)
rate 80000 (this is really dependent on your internet speed. Usually set between 60000 and 80000)
cl_updaterate 66 (tf2 servers run at 66hz so you want to be in sync)
cl_cmdrate 66 (same as above)
But baguette man has your back!
All very good points. But please break your paragraphs. Walls of text are a strain on the eyes.
-"The issue with competitive TF2 is that the game was not designed with competitive play in mind."
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-Thaaaaank you. This is the exact thing that's bugging TF2 Comp.
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When Liam said on competitive 6v6 1:08:41- "I believe this is how tf2 was meant to be played" I visibly recoiled lol. TF2 was never
-designed with 6v6 balance in mind. It was never meant to be competitive but if people could extract competitive play out of it, they had
-the freedom to try.
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-I actually believe that TF2's lifespan can be attributed to the fact that it was a casual experience.
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- * 12v12, which is rare today, as for some fucked up reason, low playercount is the new black.
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- * No competitive scene nor plans to have one, it was purely fun and games.
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- * Large focus on the community, with all the necessary tools to make maps, mods, addons, plugins, you name it.
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- Unfortunately, people design games off of TF2's exterior and not what's in it's heart. The community that loves to play the game because it is fun, not only because they want to improve...
Spy: You may have planned around my plan to plan around my plan to plan for your plan, but did you plan for *this?*
(Spy starts crab-walking)
So I'm super late to this video, but I wanna share a memory from this game from like 8 years ago. It was Memorial Day weekend, 2014, I was a Junior in High School and I was still reeling from the breakup of my first relationship (Young love lol). All of my friends had fun plans for the day; pool parties and BBQs to name a few, and I was too socially awkward to ask to come along to anything so I just stayed home. I decided to hop on TF2 for a couple rounds to take my mind off the world. What occurred were some of the most memorable moments I can recount from that game. It turned what was supposed to be an hour of play into an all-nighter session. To the Heavy who thanked me after a heal, to the Engi I had a small chat with while fortifying the base, and the other Scout who reassured and helped mentor me in my Scout main, I thank all of you. I honestly wish I could go back and relive that day.
That Spyro music hit different, nice to hear it while you talk about the best fps ever!
I like how he plays the MVM theme when starting the sniper segment
Hmmm
Good shot mate!
@@bowserisawesome5525 Nice shot!
@@watertank505Good shot mate!
@@drillbitz2816 Good shot!
The fastest class in the game is a charging demoknight.
or a demo with a stickyjumper
or an ubered demo jumping with 8 stickies
@@partypoison9438 Actually its still a charging Demoknight cause you fon't shoot a fast flying drmo an consider the same effect with his hitbox like the Baby Face blaster scout.
Any good jumper either demo or soldier is faster than a demoknight charge. While the baby faces blaster makes you quick, when you get shot or coughed on you are slower than engineer.
Trimping demo is the fastest you can get in pubs
"charging demoknight" isn't a class.
I'm new to your channel but this is a great video dude. I used to play TF2 religiously, dropped off around the time of End of the Line and now it's been on my mind again. Glad people haven't forgotten it and I'm happy to see it getting the recognition it deserves for it's impact on class-based shooters.
what a great video, who would have thought there would be a tf2 video worth watching past the year 2016
great job
"Scout is the Fastest class in the Game"
Rocket jumping Soldiers laugh
Beggers bazooka soldiers laugh at normal soldiers
DEMOKNIGHT TrimpF2
Some sticky jumpers demoman in upward
Cannon jumping demos be like "scout really fucking slow"
@@JONTHEWHEREHOG And then they see the Brass Beast Heavy...
beggars bazooka is like a exploit you can destroy sentry guns quickly kill people instantly by hitting all three or two rockets aand you can rocket jump mid air its just so goooood
Scout with Baby Face's Blaster laugh at you now
"makes you feel like black spider-man"
>demoman
ah ironic
“The exaggerated swagger of a black man”
-IGN
SpiderDemo!
*_"Does whatever a Demo can! Plant a 💣! Any size! Can't you see? just like flies! Look ouuut!... Here comes the Spider Demo! Is he strong? Listen bud, hes got Cursed Alcoholic Blood! Can he fly, from afar? See he can, with no spar! HEEEY THEEEERE!... There goes the DemoSpider!"_*
*_"In the brink of fight at the scene of the grime! Like a detonation! He has no hesitation! DemoSpider DemoSpider, volatile ally Demo Spider, Water and Food? He ignores, Dominating is his reward! To hiiiim, life's great big bang up! Where there is a hang up, you'll find the SpiderDemo!!"_* :D
Great content. You echo the very reasons I have come back to TF2 after nearly a decade. I only play medic, and I love it :)
Ngl this 1 hour long video is very worth it to watch....Nice vid liam keep it up :3 also imma sub as well
13:20 i cry everytime i hear rocket jump waltz since this last april :,(
RIP Rick may
I do one out of two things. I either salute and think about how many memories he’s given us or I also cry a little bit
Rip
half of you people didnt even know his name until he died. stop turning it into some sad fucking rally cry.
This is literally the ultimate TF2 essay video, from a history lesson to class breakdowns to unlocks, community and other stuff, really good stuff man.
TF2 was the first game I got on the first computer I built when I was very young. I remember playing as the sniper with my sister, who played as the spy. I still have some brief recordings of my friends and I playing, our pre-pubescent voices squeakier than a mouse's.
I'm happy to see it still thriving. God bless you for TF2, Valve. You provided some of my best childhood memories.
Me: ok, I'll try spy for once, it can't be that bad
Also me a minute later: nope, back to the safety of the soldier
*evil pyro laughs and übersaw crits*
*laughs in Engineer*
@@sethleoric2598 I love my life as an engi main
@@Illitha play Engie and keep getting killed by spies, play spy to understand how to kill spies and get killed by Pyro, play Pyro to help other engies, go back to engie
@@Illitha play Engie and keep getting killed by spies, play spy to understand how to kill spies and get killed by Pyro, play Pyro to help other engies, go back to engie
"You Have To Be Up Close And Personal To Deal Damage" also shoots the force of nature ten miles away
I really liked a lot of the points you made in the video. That being said, I think the perceived bias against Pyro, especially in the first half of your discussion of the class, took away from some of the points you were attempting to make. I don't play a ton of Pyro, but I do respect the community surrounding the class. Aside from that, this video was awesome, and I can tell you put a lot of work into it.
The appreciation for medics and being supportive of them is correct. If you are appreciative and support your medic they will want to play medic more. They feel good about themselves and want to help their team more often. I was new to competitive and played as medic on my first game. My team was very supportive of me and it really inspired me to play medic more often. I usually play for the team, I barely played medic before, but now I play medic quite a lot almost the same amount as I play engineer. I would love to thank my teammates from that game.
The pure reactions at the end with his friends. THAT is why I keep playing Team Fotress 2 after 8 years.
Man you know what i should play tf2 again
II quit a whole ago since II got scammmed out of a lot, and its made me give me bad memorys now sadly after 1500 hours :(
26:50 "Evil comes in many forms however.... let's take a look at Demoman."
When you got to pyro, I must admit I was severely offended. Then you talked about combos and reflects. All's good. Mad video mate good job
Such a good video, I haven't played this game in over 5 years, but I still follow it closely and am a part of it's community. It will never leave it's place in my heart.
37:42
"This is Spencer"
"Hi Spencer"
Why is this the only comment talking about spencer
@@cyruscheng499 POOTIS SPENCER HERE
Watching a noob with this much enthusiasm brings joy to my heart.
This guy has been playing on and off since orange box, he isn't a 'noob' lol
Nah he admits he hasnt played regularly, and you can see he’s a bit rusty on his aim as well as making minor errors like engi revenge critting a dispenser
damn if he's a noob, im a moronic idiot
@@Funkin_Disher you most definitely don't know what a "noob" is. Your probably the trash one here
RomioMexilio Hes not necessarily a noob, but any experienced player can tell he’s pretty rusty
you're content is so good that it was my first time finishing a youtube videi over an hour long
The dont bully your medics thing is an important point. I wasnt doing great as medic last night and someone was like "can someone else go medic so we can have a competent healer?!" then they went "fine I'll switch."
I'm like a year late replying and i had a similar experience where I was already playing not that well and my ping is shit, it only became worse when people started shitting on me because I wasn't performing optimally lmfao
@@vividclarities7860 A few days ago at 2Fort my team’s medic was getting picked on for not healing someone whilst invading Red’s base, so when we respawned I texted “I appreciate you” in the chat and that medic performed a lot better. I think they got a bad rep whilst having bad ping.
One of my favourite things in TF2 is boosting our morale, and I find that the games in which we support each other (with chat and voice commands) are the ones we win. I love saying “nice shot!” to the snipers, dropping them sandviches when I can, and thanking medics, engies, and scouts when they cap.
@@eddiejames4006 Tbh playing as Medic was already bad when you have shit ping and are the only one in the team, it's even worse when you're being shat on
Your behavior is just correct 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 We need more people like you
literally just subscibed to you last night after i watched the whole "sonic music" video, and you greet me with a retrospective of one of my favourite games
LOOOOOOVEEE IT
I just recently started getting back into TF2, so this is perfect for right now.
I hope you're having fun :D
i love how he is talking about airblast while using the backburner
You know you’ve made a quality video when I keep watching it two years later and everything in it is still relevant. Well done, Liam Triforce.
Well.. We're finally so close to a major content update, for once! We've made it past the drought!
@@StafkiGTN Here’s hoping!
@@StafkiGTN Valve edited the blog post. Read it again.