The State of Battle Royales

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
  • Today I pose the question: Is the Battle Royale genre dying? Let's discuss it in another "Macro Thoughts" video!
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  • @TheMacroShow
    @TheMacroShow  ปีที่แล้ว +716

    Which BR do you miss the most? 😔

    • @VarVarJeg
      @VarVarJeg ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Apex Mobile

    • @SenpaiWoozie
      @SenpaiWoozie ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Hyperscape and soon Rumbleverse

    • @picklejuice40
      @picklejuice40 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I still play fortnite quite a bit, but I already miss it. It's now getting worse and worse with fewer updates every year, were all just waiting for C2.0

    • @VarVarJeg
      @VarVarJeg ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@picklejuice40 creative 2.0 update is gonna be the biggest fn update in YEARS!!

    • @Tizyfox_05
      @Tizyfox_05 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      hyper scape and spellbreak, those were really cool games, showed them less love than I should have

  • @Uncannyskeletons
    @Uncannyskeletons ปีที่แล้ว +2119

    Hyperscape has to be one of my favourite battle royales in terms of movement and mechanics ever made. Sad to see it go

    • @koolboybryan1234
      @koolboybryan1234 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Ye I enjoyed it as well hope it comes back in the future

    • @DarthMotion
      @DarthMotion ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I agree. Hyperscape was really good.

    • @pinqta3867
      @pinqta3867 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      the guns were so creative too, wish it stuck around longer

    • @OMEGAyurei
      @OMEGAyurei ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Devs couldn't keep up with community demands and just dropped it it is sad but it was bound to happen the dev team wasn't professional enough

    • @The_White
      @The_White ปีที่แล้ว +42

      The main reason for the downfall of Hyperscape was the learning curve/skill floor of the game. They did everything right, managed to hype up the game pretty well, but most people couldn't really enjoy the game because if you weren't a hardcore gamer (or didn't use the smart pistol) you just wouldn't win or get a kill for that matter. If it was a bit more beginner/noob friendly it most likely would be here with us today.

  • @jakeboice6056
    @jakeboice6056 ปีที่แล้ว +1126

    I do hope arena shooters and class based shooters make a comeback someday. I do think it’s possible. People need to realize as well that just because a game isn’t popular anymore doesn’t mean it’s still fun. I still play Black ops 3 multiplayer almost daily still and it’s still incredible almost 8 years later. Don’t let anything or any youtubers influence your fun in gaming.

    • @EuphoricPlaceHolder
      @EuphoricPlaceHolder ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Theres an RCE exploit in BO3 and older cods anyone connected to a bo3 server can get their pc backdoored

    • @ThatNerdKaizen
      @ThatNerdKaizen ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think people need to look as battle royales as a game mode rather than a genre. There's no reason why a fps could come out with a battle royale with other game modes. I think a lot of people were hoping for that in halo infinte but they kinda dropped the ball on that. Extraction / looter shooters like tarkov are suppose to be next big genre but we will see about that.

    • @DotJPGG
      @DotJPGG ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I love overwatch and Paladins so I hope we see more games in the genre. Hell, if it weren't for all the jank in Paladins, it'd probably be my most played game.

    • @makerofwarmbread
      @makerofwarmbread ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just got into Black Ops 3 and it’s really awesome to see how much the community cares

    • @makerofwarmbread
      @makerofwarmbread ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EuphoricPlaceHolder that’s cod games that use pc based hosting where u host servers locally. Unless you use something like plutonium it is unsafe. Bo3 is safe but it’s full of hackers

  • @supremecrackerr4687
    @supremecrackerr4687 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    I severely miss spellbreak. Such unique fighting mechanics 😭😭

    • @istompkulaks
      @istompkulaks ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I feel your pain. that game was the first online pvp I ever played and it will forever be one of my favorites. rip to a real one

    • @Troll_vs.
      @Troll_vs. ปีที่แล้ว

      To bad they let it die unlike most of the other failed bra that just failed to appeal

    • @point0947
      @point0947 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same

  • @eggabacon
    @eggabacon ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I want to see a resurge of popularity in regular campaign and multiplayer FPS games with extra modes like capture the flag, those are always fun.

    • @vincenta8652
      @vincenta8652 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah …. No.
      They dominated for years and fell off because it’s the exact same game for 20 years.
      They also required no skill.

    • @windaddict
      @windaddict ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes!! I miss capture the flag

    • @MrRBX
      @MrRBX ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@vincenta8652you gotta be a bot or smooth brain

    • @lucasgomez9801
      @lucasgomez9801 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@vincenta8652the battle royales requiere no skill, you can camp in the midle of the circle and still win

  • @vengefulgaming42
    @vengefulgaming42 ปีที่แล้ว +668

    That song made me go through a state of crippled depression... thank you Macro

    • @Apex_cam
      @Apex_cam ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wensday adams is in the chat

    • @DreadedLad88
      @DreadedLad88 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Crippling depression*

    • @hanstristanvirkus6814
      @hanstristanvirkus6814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Crippled depression lmao

    • @Jakoni2x44
      @Jakoni2x44 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fish World Huh?

    • @nsp9996
      @nsp9996 ปีที่แล้ว

      what is the name of the real song?

  • @TheSoundofTanay
    @TheSoundofTanay ปีที่แล้ว +921

    I think the reason why Fortnite works is simply because they're not afraid of experimentation. In one season you have people using Dragon Ball mechanics and in another, they are swinging through Spider-Man's web shooters. One can say they never take themselves seriously, and just focus on what's 'fun'.
    That helps them build consistency through evolution.

    • @TrashBin2126
      @TrashBin2126 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      thats pretty much the main reason i still highly enjoy fortnite nowadays, it just goes completely apeshit with their new guns or items to the point its always usually fun trying out some new wacky item

    • @wrathofthewitchqueen
      @wrathofthewitchqueen ปีที่แล้ว +105

      Yeah if they stayed the same with chapter 1 it would’ve gotten stale and boring like apex is nowadays

    • @CasualCat64
      @CasualCat64 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wrathofthewitchqueen exactly

    • @SnesySnas
      @SnesySnas ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Nah, experimentation isn't it
      Alot of BRs tried to experiment with the formula but they died off anyway
      Fortnite is just constantly balancing things while keeping the core of the game the same, they're experimenting with new weapons, but not with the core of the BR genre

    • @brokenbiscuit3609
      @brokenbiscuit3609 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Exactly why I love Fortnite. It's also the main reason why I pretty much exclusively play Team Rumble, unless a specific challenge needs me to play the BR. But it does suck how Team Rumble still has building so it's a coin toss whether you get into a fun match or a sweat fest.

  • @Miunim
    @Miunim ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Little known fact about the Respawn mechanic in Battle Royales , Fortnite actually had the entire system in development in their files before Apex came out. After Apex came out it ended up looking bad on Fortnite when they finally finished and released the reboot van.

    • @acupoflatte8594
      @acupoflatte8594 ปีที่แล้ว

      How tf lol? Respawns aren't exactly a novel thing....

    • @Miunim
      @Miunim ปีที่แล้ว

      @ACupOfLatte Respawn device in brs I mean

    • @the_outlaw
      @the_outlaw ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bro Realm Royale had respawn years before Apex Legends was released

    • @is_urban1425
      @is_urban1425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s funny because a Fortnite devs said that they knew apex was coming out and they waited for the respawn beacon to see if people liked and then added it because it was good

  • @AdventuRaven
    @AdventuRaven ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Spellbreak and hyperscape were some of my favourites, if I could I would have kept the fandom alive myself

    • @sp55drr
      @sp55drr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      spellbreak was honestly so fun to play

  • @flyer9118
    @flyer9118 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    Holy moly, I was talking to my friends about this yesterday, about how dropping in, looting, camping for 20 minutes *Warzone* and then dying to someone in a vehicle was just not fun. You read my mind Macro.

    • @XENOMATTER-rq8bi
      @XENOMATTER-rq8bi ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Fr I remember yesterday I had amazing loot and then I just get sniped

    • @mhmfkky
      @mhmfkky ปีที่แล้ว

      play bloodhunt tdm

    • @CasualCat64
      @CasualCat64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@XENOMATTER-rq8bi skill issue

    • @brokenbiscuit3609
      @brokenbiscuit3609 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I love joking with my brother about how the queue time for an Apex game is longer than the actual match.

    • @josesosa3337
      @josesosa3337 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I'll say this in this thread and in the main one.
      To me, Battle Royale is like missing a shot in basketball and being benched the rest of the game.

  • @NumeroCinko
    @NumeroCinko ปีที่แล้ว +155

    I was waiting for someone to say "cosmetics are not content". Thats so true.

    • @cheesewizard0727
      @cheesewizard0727 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just like how leveling is not content. Both are just carrots on sticks to encourage you to do the content, but if the content isn't fun, why even bother?

  • @funnds
    @funnds ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A battle royale that was around even before PUBG was a game called H1Z1. What a game that was when it was at its pinnacle of popularity.. RIP😔

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  • @GojkoStojanovicII
    @GojkoStojanovicII ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember a few years back, all I played were multiplayer shooters like Fortnite,Overwatch,COD,Apex and it was just miserable but in the past few months I’ve basically only played single player experiences like Red Dead 2,TheLastOfUs,Doom,The Batman Arkham games and I actually enjoy playing video games again

  • @d_Flores_b
    @d_Flores_b ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I really hope battle royales aren't the main thing companies look at if they want to make a game with good numbers player wise, I miss seeing some actual creative multiplayer games

    • @vSwaGGerMoDz
      @vSwaGGerMoDz ปีที่แล้ว

      They can be a battle royale and still be creative you realize that right?

    • @Yoaten
      @Yoaten ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vSwaGGerMoDz Ya rumbleverse proved that

    • @GMOTP5738
      @GMOTP5738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Yoaten And now its dead lol

    • @GMOTP5738
      @GMOTP5738 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vSwaGGerMoDz A game can not have battle royale tacked on and still be creative you realize that right?

  • @SlothLord452
    @SlothLord452 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I personally love Population One, I know the fact that it costs money and requires a VR headset is a huge drawback, but the fact that its in VR makes it so much more immersive and fun. The amount of approaches you can take to a fight by having the ability to simply move your arms and climb is unending. This makes it so it doesn't become very stale and is almost always a good time.

    • @Ajpooped
      @Ajpooped ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I was looking for this comment! Population one is my favorite and only game I play! Very competitive and addictive. Best way to experience battler royale

    • @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
      @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly its good. Sad they removed deathmatch and stuff. Use to get 20 kills per deathmatch with M60, katana and P90. Seriously the game rewards skill.

  • @GTM1906
    @GTM1906 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think this genre it's here to stay, but I don't think it will get a whole lot more bigger.

  • @craftytyt838
    @craftytyt838 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    With all this shade towards BR's that Macro is throwing, I'd like to see him make the perfect BR. Genuinely like that would be a sick video : Macro pitching his own BR
    Edit:Mom I'm famous I have a comment with over 300 likes!

    • @TheMacroShow
      @TheMacroShow  ปีที่แล้ว +179

      I love this idea

    • @LowRezStudios
      @LowRezStudios ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@TheMacroShow with actual free progression, make the game feel rewarding

    • @tavongamudzingwa2746
      @tavongamudzingwa2746 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the content of most BR’s has just dried out so quickly. Warzone is just the same over and over PUBG and Apex are dying because nobody wants to play them

    • @CasualCat64
      @CasualCat64 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LowRezStudios then he won’t make any money

    • @LowRezStudios
      @LowRezStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CasualCat64 balance it

  • @qlem_the_creat0r
    @qlem_the_creat0r ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Macro is one of the only TH-cam's that I agree with 99.9% of the time

    • @mr.piicone
      @mr.piicone ปีที่แล้ว +2

      facts

    • @gray8177
      @gray8177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      other one is critikal

    • @Caleb502
      @Caleb502 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except his tier lists sometimes

    • @nobudgetproductions9987
      @nobudgetproductions9987 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean he isnt too critical about anything. An 8/10 for bloodhunt is criminally high.

  • @bion-geek-le1109
    @bion-geek-le1109 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the biggest strength and weakness of a BR is that they require a large player base, and if it can't keep things interesting, then the game dies

  • @mmd9746
    @mmd9746 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The reason why games are not changing a lot is because of maintaining mechanic systems. By changing it, it would make many professionals go against it and in time it will make a huge gap level between pros and noobs and for those who's playing just for fun will not be able to find something new to enjoy

  • @nicalens2874
    @nicalens2874 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    You legally cannot make a battle royale video without talking about the greatest battle royale ever. Totally accurate battlegrounds
    It was made as an april fool's joke and even so I think it is the greatest battle royale to date
    The movement, absurdity of every gunfight, insane attachment synergies, dumb weapons and much more make it one of the most fun games I have ever played, especially with friends
    It deserves all the attention it can get even if the developers abandoned it, so please go check it out
    It's free to play btw

    • @hecksters423
      @hecksters423 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It even has SWAWS on it, ffs! And a croc suit!

    • @Seb_No.13
      @Seb_No.13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey, the croc's swimmin!
      *Kazoo Heyayaya plays*

    • @mr.m11111
      @mr.m11111 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its a fun game

    • @yemi28983
      @yemi28983 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The creators of TABG and TABS made another April's fools game which is a sort of BR about knights riding drifting horses and using AKs. It was free on the first of April last year and then it became paid.

    • @nicalens2874
      @nicalens2874 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yemi28983 oh yeah knightfall
      Didn't play it yet but it looked very fun

  • @purrfectisepic
    @purrfectisepic ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Entering the br space as a new comer is practically a death wish. Spellbreak and rumbleverse both lost cuz they were cool and then people went back to what they knew. Heck, even prestablished br's have versions that meet the same fate (e.g Apex Mobile)

    • @voltr3d569
      @voltr3d569 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      To be fair apex mobile was really mis managed. Server problems,not much f2p content, buga and glitches, tons and tons of hackers, I'll matched ranked players and the god awful monetization

    • @S3Cs4uN8
      @S3Cs4uN8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pretty much this. The fact that so many BR's also tried to be Live Service games also didn't do them any favors when entering such a walled off market. The way the BR scene looks today is pretty damn similar to how the Arena Shooter scene was toward the end of the 360/PS3 era where there were several mainstay titans who held the vast majority of players (Call of Duty, Battlefield, Counter Strike ect.) with smaller games popping up and drawing some players away from those games only to swiftly fade away as the novelty wore off and they went back to their mainstay title.
      It's a recurring trend across the various videogame genre's, with some exceptions, that has played out over and over again.

    • @andrew4446
      @andrew4446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@voltr3d569 it still was making millions and was bringing content and ea/respawn didn't want to have to live up to the expectations that the mobile team were setting

    • @voltr3d569
      @voltr3d569 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andrew4446 expections? The entire mobile community was fed up of the mobile team they weren't listening to the community even a bit. And the high bars you talk about what are they? Better firing range? Now on HD.More gamemodes? Now on hd.

    • @mesiroy1234
      @mesiroy1234 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope will comevack to games olds chool cod and halo

  • @kunwarpalsingh8098
    @kunwarpalsingh8098 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This can cost risk alot of jobs too. Not the just companies that make these games, but also the eSports players who trained for years to become the best.

    • @macro17_
      @macro17_ ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @GMOTP5738
      @GMOTP5738 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe esports players should get a job and stop thinking playing video games is a sport lmao

  • @rodrigos7070
    @rodrigos7070 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    BRs are super fun with firends. The offtime is great for chatting and the ocasional win feels great

  • @frankthetank6298
    @frankthetank6298 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I've personally been entirely drained from the br experience. Really nothing that can be added will really keep me around at all since, like you said, it was fun the first thousand times. That's why I hope more Arena shooters come back to their former glory, like if 343 actually updated Halo Infinite

    • @CreaseJs
      @CreaseJs ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yea I’m bored of BR, I want to see more creativity not just jump, loot, camp, kill, win is just boring

    • @Tuelz...
      @Tuelz... ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i knew looters extraction games would be popular when I first played The Division in 2016. Even tho the game dropped of player base fast cus that style wasnt "It" back then I knew it would be. It was one of the most different games I've ever played at the time and even to this day. I have a feeling the next 3-4 years will be taken over by them. The Division was just way before its time... if it came out now it would of blown up. The fact that you can loot and farm NPC in a storyline that mixes with single player then run into another team and they try and rob you. Builds that everyone can midmax to however they like. It was insane when i first played it. I think the issue with it was PUBG was insanely popular at that time then Fortnite came the next year

    • @TeenWithACarrotIDK
      @TeenWithACarrotIDK ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They don’t hold well on their own anymore. That’s the biggest sign that a genre is becoming stale. It seems like the positive parts of the bigger BR’s are getting worse also.

    • @OctoFloofy
      @OctoFloofy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeenWithACarrotIDK yeah funnily i play a lot of fortnite for a while again but its not even the BR modes, its creative i mainly play

    • @randallb2179
      @randallb2179 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. Apex and Fortnite are good games, but I'm feeling so tired of BR that just seeing one makes me wanna throw up.

  • @ch3at_c0de93
    @ch3at_c0de93 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is so true I’m still sad about spell break 😢

    • @kronikz_2210
      @kronikz_2210 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fr. Spell break was so great, I just feel like the should've added more spells into the game Cuz using the same spells over and over definitely got boring

  • @AutobotSonicTheTelltaleGamer
    @AutobotSonicTheTelltaleGamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found your channel today. Definitely agree in the fact that Battle Royales can feel a little samey now, but I don't think the genre is a fad. To me, after seven years of them being around, I feel like they're just as mainstay as something like TDM or a hero shooter. Super excited to see what you do next!

  • @BrownCharlie799
    @BrownCharlie799 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I personally like the concept of battle royale, but it seems like when a fresh battle royale idea comes out, no one wants to try it, and the game dies. People are getting bored of the same thing though, and this is why i feel like battle royale games are truly going to die out.

  • @azathoththe3rd
    @azathoththe3rd ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Macro, if you wanna see a hidden gem of a kind BR I would love to recommend Hunt: Showdown. It's amazing. The sound design, the world detail, the historically accurate weapons, the bosses. The whole game is lovingly crafted as well as being hard as hell

  • @Trisaaru
    @Trisaaru ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The whole genre popularity has been declining for a couple years now. If you're not in the big 4 (Fortnite, Apex, Warzone, PUBG) you're not going to find an audience. If you are in the big 4, then you're introducing non-br modes. However, I highly doubt Fortnite will ever become dead because of it's vast amount of interesting updates and the entire Creative side of the game. All of this extra stuff means that the BR experience isn't incredibly fatiguing to the average player. Apex, on the other hand, will probably faulter more due to it's overreliance on the BR genre.

    • @solid5502
      @solid5502 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love how people say PUBG is dead but there's still lots of tournaments and it has a huge following on Twitch and the sort. It's honestly my favorite Battle Royale because of how realistic and tense the game feels. The lore behind it is very dark and depressing but it's so fun to play. It's definitely not for everyone though.

  • @Sammypbeats
    @Sammypbeats ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was some beautiful harmonizing 🎶 “EVERYTIME A BATTLE ROYAL DIES, I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”🔥

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      @macro17_ ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @Blitz90678
    @Blitz90678 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I love about these videos is that they feel like a five paragraph essay you wrote in middle school but in a good way

  • @akspd3188
    @akspd3188 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Macro with the amazing uploads as always

  • @akspd3188
    @akspd3188 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He should rly just release an album at this point

  • @SolidRazo
    @SolidRazo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A forgotten gem of a BR that I never see talked about is “the divisions:survival” like the vibe in that dlc was something else and on top of that to win you didn’t have to kill everyone you just had to escape alive

  • @ThatSkiFreak
    @ThatSkiFreak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the biggest issue gameplay / quality of life wise with battle royales is still the time spent not doing anything, and I don't even just mean looting. The time you spend between dying and landing in apex just looking at UI and menus is insane considering how quickly things can go to shit after you didn't really do much in a match.
    I think if the time between losing and jumping off the ship in a new match was like 30-60 seconds the battle royale formula would feel a lot more refreshing to a lot of players. I agree entirely with your point about ranked as well. Also, I worry that yes extraction is the direction we are headed, and I am not a big fan of it so sucks for me ig.

  • @likedlizardgaming3354
    @likedlizardgaming3354 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm really wondering what the new go to gamemode will be, the tarkov type seems interesting. I really enjoyed vigor but sadly it's only on console as of rn

  • @darthgonk5648
    @darthgonk5648 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta hate when a $70 game charges you $10 for each bp, This is why Deep Rock Galactic will always have the greatest bp because all I gotta do is play the game and I get my rewards

  • @rusutimotei3632
    @rusutimotei3632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In apex at least the matchmaking was the biggest problem for me. I was getting consistently to diamond with filled squads, but playing normals was unplayable and once getting to diamond rank was also unplayable, to have a fun time in apex you either are the top of players or the bottom, being in the top middle sucks, u get matched only against preds and masters, yet the game refuses to put me in that rank, or the third option you just create smurf accounts.

  • @tw1n5nak39
    @tw1n5nak39 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The battle royales that secured their spot will continue, while those whose audience had dropped off hard are likely to continue to free fall…definitely interested to see what’s next.

  • @ThatCrippledGuy_
    @ThatCrippledGuy_ ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Someone at EA, activision, epic has to hire this man

    • @izmer67
      @izmer67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All 3 should hire

    • @hypezoneninga
      @hypezoneninga ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only one that would listen would be epic

  • @Huddywlc
    @Huddywlc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alex had a fix for the ranked BR issue in the form of arenas. Everyone had the opportunity to get the same loot and if you lost then it isn’t just RNG, yet respawn still removed it due to low player count.

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  • @savvaschimoni8536
    @savvaschimoni8536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    brs are not here to stay and it's just sad because some of these games are pretty good but i think the biggest problem and the reason why the genre is dying is because even though limited modes give the players sometihng different they will eventually get boring as well. I think these games just need to find something that players won't get bored of. i think a good example of this is the pve that's coming for season 3 of overwatch 2 which also will include skill-trees for every hero because you can finish the story and replay the missions to get more skill-tree points and upgrade the heroes

  • @jaylebowski9745
    @jaylebowski9745 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think "Extraction Looter Shooter" types games will be the future. It has elements of BR with added persistence and risk that allows for deeper progression and more build variety.
    Games like Escape from Tarkov (often considered the father of the genre), Cycle: The Frontier, Rainbow Six: Extraction, Marauders and Dark and Darker(RPG instead of FPS) are more digestible version of DayZ that revolve around a "session based" format that is popular since it can fit into anyone's schedule. The only hindrance is sometimes there is a minimal commitment level to these games that many cannot afford. And "gear fear" will take a while for some to overcome.
    Overall I can see the Extraction genre become the spiritual successor to the BR craze, and we will soon see more and more developers expand on what EFT started years ago. Once you get into this genre, you are hooked. The thrill of incomparable high risk/high reward is unmatched.

  • @julianeuburger
    @julianeuburger ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think games like Hunt: Showdown are the logical progression of Battle Royales. Based on BR core mechanics but it not being the main objective but rather a mechanic to make the game more intense and interesting. Also Hunt is just really good and different and I love it so I'm definitely biased

    • @OMEGAyurei
      @OMEGAyurei ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah hunt showdowns game play loop is probably gonna be the next big thing

    • @julianeuburger
      @julianeuburger ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OMEGAyurei I'm not sure about that, cuz it's not that casual, but it definitely just makes a lot of sense design-wise. Tho I would love it so much if Hunt really blew up cuz I think there's even more amazing things to be done with that game

    • @OMEGAyurei
      @OMEGAyurei ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jan Neuburger yeah all they have to is make it slightly less hard-core and more noob friendly and we got the next big game genre

  • @SnesySnas
    @SnesySnas ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think the problem with BRs is that they're so hard to make and maintain
    It's harder than normal MP games because you need a large enough playbase to accomodate your game's high limit of players per match
    So the problem arises when players prefer a BR over yours
    So it's very hard to create an Original BR with Interesting Mechanics because people usualy steer away from the "New"
    Take Darwin Project for example, it took the BR idea and molded it into it's own thing! An announcer that could shift the match at will, limited weaponery to simplify the game and yet heighten the skill ceiling, survival aspects to make the game more thrilling while adding craftable tools and gadgets to help you gain an edge over battle even if you haven't fought much
    I feel like the game didn't do well because players wanted a Fortnite-like shooter, it was what started the whole genre and a game shifting away from it COMPLETELY isn't comforting, so they're not interested in trying it.
    But let's take another example: Hyperscape. It was a shooter BR that didn't change much from other BR games...So why did it die? Because it was fast. The abilities didn't bother most people, but it was how fast the whole game was that made people not want to keep playing it, because other BRs aren't even close to being that fast, not even Apex which is considered a fast BR, was considered to be "Too fast".
    All a BR needs to be quickly gave up on is "Change". If you try to change the formula too much, no one wants to hear what you got to say because it isn't what they're familiar with.
    It's the same for other Multiplayer games, but atleast they got a smaller number of players per match which allows them to keep thriving as anyone could still find a match despite the game not being very popular
    Can you tell i'm sad that Darwin Project and Hyperscape died yet? lol

    • @doctorshotty1845
      @doctorshotty1845 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also liked hyper scape but to me darwin will always be the number 1 br imo

    • @SnesySnas
      @SnesySnas ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doctorshotty1845 DARWIN YEAH
      God that game had so much potential, it was so fun to play at the whims of a director and overcome the odds
      But "Too original"

    • @GMOTP5738
      @GMOTP5738 ปีที่แล้ว

      BRs are not hard to make lol they are the most braindead easy design concept for a game any moron with no experience can up with a BR idea just ask the PUBG creator :D

  • @pedromarcal5100
    @pedromarcal5100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My biggest problem with BRs is that it isn't a genre that you can just log on and play to relax you have to focus while playing, it is not an easy or peaceful experience. Other games for exemple allow more of that way of playing because your mistakes dont punish you as hard. Let's take an exemple, if someone whos is not the best at BRs, this pearson will log on and search for a game after maybe 2-5minutes he will find a game and after more 4-5 minutes he will start playing for real the he dies in the first fight, now he has to do the cycle once again.

  • @ERElement77
    @ERElement77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think with the rapid increase in technology, it’s easier for developers to create beautiful solo experiences with really enticing combat, like GoW, Elden Ring, A Plague Tale, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Hades, and upcoming Avatar Frontiers of Pandora and Hades 2. I think single player games are the future, as companies don’t have to focus on good multiplayer, meaning they can put more resources towards good stories, beautiful graphics and buttery smooth gameplay.

  • @whatevertjyt7071
    @whatevertjyt7071 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Felt bad for spellbreak because they shut down their server but they could have been proving it. Because it was a lot complicated in the game.

  • @coolbrotherf127
    @coolbrotherf127 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Apex Legends has definitely decided to try to sift into other genres recently. With the inclusion of permanent non-BR modes like TDM, control, and gun run coming in season 16, Apex is trying to transition into a more complete FPS experience instead of just a BR game.

  • @elkinvargas6481
    @elkinvargas6481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I genuinely miss spellbreak and how unique it's combat was. Could I have been better yes, however I just hope it doesn't go wasted and can be transfered over to something else.
    Also people still play league of legends and all we get is 5 characters a year and skins

  • @artypyrec4186
    @artypyrec4186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair, people were saying BR were dying WAY before I started playing them. They probably are but people were saying they been dead for a year after FortNight was released.

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  • @DaxTrace
    @DaxTrace ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even if I don't have any development experience, every game company should immediately hire me so I can bring back spellbreak 😭😭

  • @dddripz
    @dddripz ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Battle Royales have given me some of the best moments in gaming... 3 years ago. The genre is just not fun anymore, and I don't think there is a way to change that.

  • @exo_eve7575
    @exo_eve7575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think battle royales are just transforming into a regular game genre now and not a trend to make quick cash that every dev is hopping on. the genre is just settling into the norm of the gaming sphere like the platformer or fighting game did in the 90s

  • @joyhally7754
    @joyhally7754 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should test extraction shooters like Hunt Showdown and Escape From Tarkov
    They're practically Battle Royals but the goal is to complete an objective then make it to an extraction point safely.
    In Hunt everyone is fighting to have the opportunity of killing a "boss" which is a very powerful NPC placed somewhere randomly on the map, the players must locate the boss layer by scanning clues scattered around the map. The game is slow and methodical with smart repositioning being the crux of the combat. I love it a lot and I would love to see a Macro take on it.

    • @GMOTP5738
      @GMOTP5738 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but the problem with those especially hunt showdown is camping, some people just wait for people to do the objectives and then camp the extraction to bandit the rewards. Games like that really need to punish camping

  • @jmhallman380
    @jmhallman380 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Apex needs to add titans. There could be a pickup that you could find in the map that allows 1 titan per team, that can be driven by any team member. It could also be cool to have the titan act on its own if there's no one in it, as a sort of fourth squad member.

    • @matyas9552
      @matyas9552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No

    • @juhanainen
      @juhanainen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah no

    • @femboy1141
      @femboy1141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go play titanfall 2 if you want titans

  • @DarkLabrinth
    @DarkLabrinth ปีที่แล้ว +8

    FORTNITE BEST GAME, MY DAD OWNS MACROSOFT I WILL GET YOU HAXEDDDD

  • @EileenTheCr0w
    @EileenTheCr0w ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The genre is just going down to it's rightful place among other multiplayer experiences. It's not going to die, but it alone is not enough to sell a game anymore.. so only the top games have lasting power unless someone comes along and innovates better.

  • @Maple38
    @Maple38 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hyperscape is what we needed. Ubisoft should have actually marketed it. The game was fun, innovative, and had solid movement.
    Who knows, maybe with enough people talking about it they might bring it back. At least I hope.

  • @KeanuChrist
    @KeanuChrist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been playing Fortnite since the last week of season 5. Admittedly, been playing way more Destiny 2 once I started playing that last year in September.
    I had a 100% win rate in Spellbreak! I played the game when it first came out, and I won the first match I played so I never touched it again.

  • @nikoveliki4132
    @nikoveliki4132 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BR mode mostly feels like a minigame type of mode that is in a smaller box next to the big box that holds the main gamemode of the game, like in csgo

  • @MafiaCarpio
    @MafiaCarpio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do think Extraction Shooters like tarkov and the cycle will be the next big thing. Ubisoft is already working on the division heartlands with a release this year hopefully. I’m excited for this genre :) ❤

  • @Hachiman001
    @Hachiman001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think with apex trey probably won't try out so many more LTMs and New mode e.g. Arenas it is a huge failure and the 6 people that play it probably hate themselves. Although the reason why it failed was probably cause there wasn't enough content at the start and people lost interest in it. but modes like control and gun run mixes apex with og modes from games like COD and Halo and it not only gives you a sense of nostalgia but it also shows what apex's movement and gunplay offers in those modes and it excites everyone seeing what it would look like.

    • @juhanainen
      @juhanainen ปีที่แล้ว

      Arenas is great bruh, why are you so bitter about that mode lol

  • @nomojojo8230
    @nomojojo8230 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I played hyperscape like twice and went back to play it again and was very disappointed to see it gone. It was genuinely a well made be

  • @lukedanielgalon1596
    @lukedanielgalon1596 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1.) My main problem with BR’s is just the maps way too big to be exciting to play (unlike Alcatraz in Call Of Duty that map always excited to play regardless what the result i got)
    2.) Another is that majority of BR’s sometimes exploitive like using the same Battlepass but no changes
    3.)Also the split between two types of players the the purchase just for the game type or free to play and pay comsetics type
    The only game that solves number 2 and 3 case XD entertainment with T3 Arena

  • @jk3jk35
    @jk3jk35 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is like that picture of all the same-ish white SUVs from different car brands - inevitably everyone agrees on one working formula and features then you add your own minor twist.

  • @titanadomotion9444
    @titanadomotion9444 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember a few years ago when Fortnite was still decently new and fresh. If you didn't have it, you were uncool. Now, however, if you do play it, you are uncool. Oh how times have changed. The memories with my friends in OG Fortnite are so great.

  • @saturatedjorts
    @saturatedjorts ปีที่แล้ว

    bro low key tabg us fun asf. the wacky-ness and constant rotation of hundreds of items is insane. one game you're zipping around with a blessing of smallness and two glocks strapped together, the next you're beating the everloving snot out of someone with an inflated hammer. I could come back to it any day with my friends and it will never lose my undivided attention.

  • @harrybuttery2447
    @harrybuttery2447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Battle Royal games still have potential it's just that new comers are often indie devs and/or trend chasers.
    A BR with the mechanics of Escape from Tarkov would work well as at the moment the choice is really between a cartoon, a sci-fi cartoon, COD and a game made that looks like it was made by beginner devs just learning the engine, 10 years ago(this being PUBG).
    There isn't an Immersive and realistic BR on the market.

  • @schlooble
    @schlooble ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lot of people (including me) would definitely welcome the death of battle royales, but I'm not sure what would come next. Personally I'd love to see quake and other arena shooters return but TF2 is getting the first major update in 6 years this summer and that might bring some attention to class based games. Point is, it's time to let battle royales go. They had a good run, but now it's time to embrace the future (or the past, depending on what blows up next).

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  • @LincolnWiseDidMyMom
    @LincolnWiseDidMyMom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spell break had so much potential. It was horrible on controller, filled with the dumbest bots I've ever seen, and didn't add much over time thus why it got stale, but it was conceptually dope as hell. I hope all the devs work on another project that they are equally passionate about. A lot of love went into that br for sure.

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  • @samuelbrighton1320
    @samuelbrighton1320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I doubt looter shooters will ever become the absolute main game genre type or whatever because of there gridny and brutal nature, I absolutely love games like The Cycle and play it daily, but I think that a very large portion of people just wont enjoy the mechanics of risking your hard earned equipment every time you want to play.

  • @Handsome_Crypto
    @Handsome_Crypto ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like this next apex season for macro is going to be really good with team deathmatch and mixtape(TDM, Gun Run, and Control in rotation) being added permanently to Apex I think it will be enjoyed

  • @poohhardy11
    @poohhardy11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apex could put some of their cinematic budget and mid story telling segments towards keeping certain modes in the game. Maybe even more than 2 maps per season that'd be great

    • @Troll_vs.
      @Troll_vs. ปีที่แล้ว

      You say that like we are getting two maps a season? I'm I confused somewhere?

  • @juhanainen
    @juhanainen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imo Apex has such fun movement and great mechanics overall that it doesn't ever seem to get boring. When you have a consistent 3 stack to play with, you win quite often as well.

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  • @captain_squiddy
    @captain_squiddy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just want Sea of Thieves to make a battle royale. That would be so fun with the utility of ships to get to circle and the island hopping

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    • @m7jacob702
      @m7jacob702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha yeah I was hoping for that mode in Sot years ago, I remember when they added arena mode, br could have been cool, I haven't played that game in a long time but it was fun

  • @justaserbiandoomer497
    @justaserbiandoomer497 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I miss the original Warzone the most. Verdansk was a fantastic map and the only real problem were hackers. Then in Warzone Pacific, we got Caldera which was absolute dogshit of a map, some unnecessary events and basically everything that came with Vanguard. Then Warzone 2.0 got released Warzone 1.0 removed all gamemodes except for BR, and the 2.0 itself is honestly way too slow, boring and realistic in all the wrong places. The only thing that might save it will be Rebirth Island, but even then, idk how good it will work with the new engine

  • @johnsid1639
    @johnsid1639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I play Apex alot, but have been putting some hours into The Cycle Frontier latly, its a good change of pace (but nothing will ever compare to Titanfall 2)

  • @RisingPhoenixLily
    @RisingPhoenixLily ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my opinion, BR isn't dying for now. But, I still got the BR Fatigue since Warzone 2 popped. And, can't last half hour playing Apex nowadays (I started playing since S0 by the way), and recently played PUBG with my boyfriend, but, despite getting a good game, I had the said fatigue once again.
    I'm now on Warframe for the time being.

  • @danieljones4271
    @danieljones4271 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who put countless days into Apex legends and wanting to give other BR's a try when they dropped, I too got super tired. UNTIL...Naraka Bladepoint. Its like if Soul Calibur and Apex Legends had a baby. truly a breath of fresh air in the genre mainly because its melee based but there are a few guns in the game.

  • @Donte221
    @Donte221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason apex doesn’t have solos is cause the abilities of characters aren’t all good for solo and some really help teams more then you like lifeline

  • @SyncedUp_
    @SyncedUp_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a huge reason Fortnite still remains too, a thing most ppl in these videos don’t bring up, is that Fortnite has an ongoing story its telling. Sure some seasons don’t really build on the story and such but I feel like Fortnite is the only BR that is actually TRYING to tell an ongoing story season to season. They also can have their cosmetics be literally anything, not just locked to military gear in different patterns and colors but entirely different things and somehow still fit. I never wouldve thought I could be Spider-man running around in a game with a gun while the guy Im after is the predator and someone dressed as a llama or something and it not be completely ridiculous.

  • @theep1cwillieb124
    @theep1cwillieb124 ปีที่แล้ว

    A cool thing for some big games to do is a throwback mode or something.pretty much you go back to the first like 4 seasons of the game.that would bring back the originality of some games like fortnite and apex

  • @xiiiphoenixx
    @xiiiphoenixx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You might not be too far off with class based/arena shooters making a (small) resurgence, especially with Gianna Matragrano and the Fraggy Friday streams these past couple weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if there's actually a decent consistent player base for Quake Champions now because of the streams.

  • @sankarshanas2209
    @sankarshanas2209 ปีที่แล้ว

    That intro was fire bro

  • @JakeTaco83
    @JakeTaco83 ปีที่แล้ว

    I probably would have never played a BR game, but my son got into Fortnite and I strated playing some with him. It was funner than I thought, especailly as that coincided with no build mode. Now he plays mostly with online friends and they never play the BR. Always playing mini games or whatever is on there.

  • @ninthfriend3347
    @ninthfriend3347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the factor is that Warzone, Apex, Fortnite, and Pubg are like the set and stone br games. Others that tries to compete against it but fails to stand out to these big br games. I think it's here to stay because these four are the king of br games.
    We have seen this in OW when that game became big before the drought, we could see this in OW2. OW has killed a lot of class based shooter with very few like R6S. Most couldn't match its gameplay and most importantly the art behind the game. A lot of characters are really likeable in OW and even to this day is has by far the best design in art and character imo.

  • @kensh1takahash150
    @kensh1takahash150 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you macro. We gamers really need something new always to keep us exploring the new game modes and gameplay. If any of the big battle royales could satisfy this, they would have probably survived. And I think hyperscape actually had a good future because it is UBISOFT like it makes the best single player games. The growing competition at that time killed HS. "Hyperscape was at the right place at the wrong time"

  • @ahmetozen3778
    @ahmetozen3778 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apex Legends was the only BR I liked and played since its first season. But it was always same thing happening to me. I play for 1 and a half season non-stop and then leave in the middle of one season and then comeback after 2 seasons. Same cycle everytime. But I never played Apex Legends since last summer. Even though I finally got my heirloom for my main (Valkyrie) I just don't want to play anymore because the reasons you said in this video. I feel empty after sometime and just don't feel like playing it. I had times that I entered the game and run around in Shooting Range for an hour and than left because I had no other games to play. Right now I'm playing OW2, as an old OW player I will not say anything good about it but they at least try to fix things. I also can't wait to see what they will give us as PvE (which is my favorite game type. I have many hours on Destiny 2, Fortnite Save the World, World War Z, Rainbow Six Extraction)

  • @BattlewarPenguin
    @BattlewarPenguin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is this huge void on the multiplayer market, I would bet that in the next 2-5 years some unknown game like Multiversus, Among Us, Fall Guys will storm the gaming community like Elden Ring did when released

  • @BeaglzRok1
    @BeaglzRok1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, time is kind of a cycle with these sorts of things. I used to be big into TF2/Overwatch and got burnt out because there was nothing else to "get," but I keep coming back around to Deep Rock Galactic because the maps and challenges are dynamic and to the setting I choose and my friends actually have fun playing it. I've cycled back around to Stardew Valley after some time away just because I missed that starting gameplay loop of having tangible improvement. I got a bit into Yugioh Master Duel because it'd been nearly a decade since I last cared about Yugioh, and the F2P battlepass model is leagues better than what OW2 had to offer.
    I think BR games are just stabilizing, settling down now that the dust has kicked up and gotten these games made and changed and changed. If they decide to keep bringing content updates, even if it's as small as a few new game modes or maps at a reasonable clip, it can keep the game going for a long time.

  • @KallMeKes
    @KallMeKes ปีที่แล้ว

    Saying players are bored of the br playform but like the gameplay is the most true thing ive ever heard, like apex just added tdm and gun run so thats what got me to play it again

  • @specioustest4321
    @specioustest4321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spellbreak was my favorite. Loved how chaotic and explosive the matches were

  • @Nolan842
    @Nolan842 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was some really great singing at t6he start of the video

  • @chiffer1787
    @chiffer1787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm still so sad Darwin Project died I loved that game. It was so fun to be the game master and talk with people and change how the game plays

  • @joshsmit513
    @joshsmit513 ปีที่แล้ว

    The same characters always being meta increases my burnout too. Played apex daily for years and it got old always fighting Gibby, Wraith, Bloodhound, etc. Never a Rampart meta, Fuse meta, or anyone that had low pick/win rates to shake things up

  • @skelly-eh8qb
    @skelly-eh8qb ปีที่แล้ว

    These are my favorite types of videos. Thank you macro

  • @itsjdezbitch701
    @itsjdezbitch701 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back then, the reason I played was for skins / camos. Games now don’t give you anything for a milestone. All they want is your $ 😢

  • @dmgxsinistercodm6701
    @dmgxsinistercodm6701 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s true that apex legends don’t have a solo mode it’s sad at the same time bcx as a beginner I see a lot of tryhards i am only able to knock 1 opponent down then get clapped by his teammates and this happens over and over which is really frustrating