don lewis Well he did, it is his riff. I remember reading interview with Jimmy saying how hard it was to learn it for the first time when Jonesy had showed him.
I love how that around 4:30 in the video you can hear Bonzo figure out the rhythm of that specific part of the song and within a few measures he's already got it locked in. It's a thing a beauty
I remember the first time I heard this about 10 years ago. I had a moment of clarity when I realized that this was probably recorded with 2 microphones about 20 feet away from the band and it sounds JUST LIKE ZEP, meaning the secret to the sound of Zeppelin wasn't some studio wizardry or anything like that. It was 4 guys who would have sounded badass no matter how they were recorded.
@z1inspector Jones is this quiet unassuming Englishman who apparently walks around with funky ,bluesy , ballsy and heavy ass grooves floating around in his head . And he has some of the best chops in the game besides ! And when hes is not rocking someones face off , he conducts freaking symphony orchestra s and writes operas ( which he is currently doing ) Jones is a different kind of cat and a gift to rock music
Ahh yes, from the Rarities Boot, really fun to listen to, lots of improvising and you can even hear in one section where Bonzo was explaining a section to Robert (and that was when I realized why he was irreplaceable, he was an important writer in the band, just like the rest of them!)
I like the drum intros before the guitars kick in in this version rather than the studio. Jonesy definately does not get enought credit for being as bad ass as he is on the bass. Thank goodness for youtube where you can easily access such great moments in rock n roll history with just one click of a mouse.
I just found this by accident! I've been a huge Zeppelin fan for years, but never in my wildest dreams would I expect to hear such a demo. "Black Dog" was the first song that I'd ever 'heard'. The first song that I made a real emotional connection with. Ever since, I've been an audiophile. I now make my living as a musician/composer/ music producer/engineer. To hear 'Black Dog' in such an embryonic state like this is fantastic! This is the best 7 minutes I've spent all year! WooHoo!!
As a long time fan, this is timeless. I've liked a lot of different music over the years and most stuff does not withstand the test of time. Led Zeppelin withstands.
Wow, this is a great find - I love the song. Never in a million years would I have guessed that JPJ came up with the riff and Pagey was learning it from him.
this is John Paul Jones's riff my all time favourite riff from my all time favourite bass player from my all time favourite band its like sitting in on their jam session....so cool!
love this upload. as most zep fans know JPJ came up with the riff and you can really hear him taking the lead here and trying to teach it to the band . especially around 1:38. JPJ so underrated and not well known to common man. even in this outtake you can hear bonhams awesome sound..... roaring bass drum and cracking snare drum.
Everyone says that he is "overrated" whatever that means, but it reality when most classic rock fans think, Versatile musician, he is the first to mind, and not to forget he is voted one of the greatest bassist.
this is beyond cool! having the masters figure it out as they go and then all of a sudden GET IT is incredible! I love posters on youtube for finding these gems!
its just pure raw energy... its incredible how the end result they recorded retains that rawness. they were a truly amazing group of musicians, each feeding of the other. awesome!
The fact that this was recorded is a cause for celebration!! This incredible song was still being developed by each member (other than Jones) and gives an insight to how quickly they picked up on each other’s songs. Bonham developed the straight 4/4 beat under the riff, Jimmy was still learning the the song and Plant was trying to find a way to add his vocals. But the basis of the song is there. Jimmy’s solo is almost identical to the final version, Plant quickly developed the “ahhh, ahhhh” idea on the spot and we have confirmation that Jones wrote the entire song
@rickydal yes, John Paul Jones reportedly came up with the Black Dog riff, and it was a bit tricky in the turnaround sections - also inspired by a version of SMokestack lightnin off The Howlin' Wolf Album.
led zeppelin actually made up most of the fourth album's material on the spot...pretty ridiculously awesome. John Paul Jones sure came up with a badass riff. its cool how the lyrics that Plant is singing are different. keep rockin
Magickal,this is more sublime every time I listen,it's like the birth of a baby and these four legends gently bringing it up and into the World......you can hear just damn phenomenal Bonzo is,well all four,slowly waking it up and suddenly the steam train gathers pace,it's ethereal!
wow this is fckn awesome. you can hear the genius in all 4 of them putting this great song together. even in this poor quality you can hear bonzos signature sound. remarkable.
I like the drum intro better here than on the studio album. They were ALL BRILLIANT and 4 musicians tis talented will NEVER happen again!!!!! In 200 years, if people are still around, Zep will be looked opon as Motzart is today! People are over looking how easy Bonham put this together. With the "odd time" breaks, he makes it groove as usual
"The Black dog riff was composed by John Paul Jones." Indeed, in this rehearsal, you can see that Johnsy first set an example and everyone is following it. The part where the riff and the drum are off by 1/2 beat seems to be difficult!
jemmani22...the riff is brought to Zep by JPJ, that is why you can hear the bass playing the riff and the guitar trying to learn it. Check the facts first.
i dont know what it is about Bonham's drums, even playing little out take bits... his rhythm, style and sound are simply the best... so fluid and and funky its just damn amazing...
they say that this song or the main riff itself is from JPJ, he came up with the riff. wow Jonesy is a brilliant Bass, Keyboard, Organ and all types of guitars playing. if you close your eyes and just hear the music nd concentrate you will feel as if your in the room with them rehearsing the song.
@5H4V3D89 Inimitable. And he might be the only drummer of whom it could be said that, if you took every other instrument out of the mix on each song, you'd still recognise the track instantly because his drumming tells the story of the song. Some of his "riffs" are the actual driving force. Kashmir and When The Levee Breaks are two examples, I'd say.
Thanks for posting. Those of you in your 40's remember being a teenager in 70's not having much on the band. I love this posting and keep learning about the band. Wondering how Page got a writting credit on the song? I've read that Jonesy said that it was Bonham who figured out a part in the song.
this is history.you can hear Jimmy figure out the licks in 2 or 3 tries and then let the beast do his thing.VERY IMPRESSIVE! this is a monent in time that is historical
That's quite awesome to listen to...shame there's no video... But to listen to a really raw and rough diamond knowing how good the finished product is... WoW! They must have spent alot of time working on it...
rumour had it that while Jimmy was recording his only solo lp, his home in London was broken into and alot of outtakes and some masters of Zeppelin were taken.I always wondered where it would end up.Great shit don't get me wrong but ,if this is the stuff that was taken from Jimmys house its a shame and,a blessing,,,cos we get to hear but,then he lost these tapes forever. And Yes JPJ did bring this song with him to headley grange. it was his baby.
@Rover775 yeah, they where kind of private, wich is why every interview or film of them is considered RARE, my cousin's friend has film of led zeppelin in Headley Grange and its just 10min of led zep hangin around the house and rehearsing, and its valued over 1200$,
indeed killer stuff and a window in as they make the magic ! thanks for this gift , bonzo smile's on you from heaven imho see ya , al --- i grew up on zep at 46 i still love em !
supposedly (forgot where I read this right now, can try to dig it up), Jonesy got the inspiration for a rolling type of blues riff from this more "psychedelic" version of "Smokestack Lightning": if you search on youtube for "Howlin' Wolf - Smokestack Lightnin' (electric version) ", you should be able to hear it. the electric Wolf version is nowhere near as good as his original, nor Zep's "Black Dog" - I love'em both!
all 4 zeps brings something into the mix... Bonham-solid groove, Pagey-guitar and studio trickery, Pagey-whailing and Jones-this little magical element....
I love this, it's like being a kid and pressing your ear against the closed door just listening in on their chatter & rehearsal...
The Zep groove is on another level,it's heavy, but sweet, powerful, yet melodic-very intoxicating!
Bass is heavy. Rude and let's you know it's there
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A HIT.
Im going to bet for a trillion dollars for it to be a hit.
Jonesy wrote the Black Dog riff for sure !!! It's well known in the Zeppelin camp.
This is one of the reasons why I consider Led Zeppelin the best, biggest and most powerful band of all time!!! 🎶🎸🎤🥁🎹❤️🎵
John Paul Jones. So under rated yet so good!
Alihan Yildirim ya listening to this makes mes thinks he came up with predominant riff
don lewis Well he did, it is his riff. I remember reading interview with Jimmy saying how hard it was to learn it for the first time when Jonesy had showed him.
+punkysdilemma It´s not hard to learn but pretty tricky.
Jones is only underrated in the press. Which is no surprise because they don't know anything. Fans and musicians know that he was a monster!
this riff was actually written by JPJ and not jimmy page
If that is indeed true, I can see why. That bass line is fantastic.
Jones originated the tune. Inspired by something he heard on Muddy Waters Electric Mud album.
You can hear JPJ teaching it to Jimmy here. Jimmy picks it up insanely quick
I love how that around 4:30 in the video you can hear Bonzo figure out the rhythm of that specific part of the song and within a few measures he's already got it locked in. It's a thing a beauty
I remember the first time I heard this about 10 years ago. I had a moment of clarity when I realized that this was probably recorded with 2 microphones about 20 feet away from the band and it sounds JUST LIKE ZEP, meaning the secret to the sound of Zeppelin wasn't some studio wizardry or anything like that. It was 4 guys who would have sounded badass no matter how they were recorded.
JOHN PAUL JONES is Led Zeppelins secret weapon !!
Its always interesting to hear the songs in their development stage you can hear the various parts coming together from an individual perspective. .
@z1inspector Jones is this quiet unassuming Englishman who apparently walks around with funky ,bluesy , ballsy and heavy ass grooves floating around in his head . And he has some of the best chops in the game besides ! And when hes is not rocking someones face off , he conducts freaking symphony orchestra s and writes operas ( which he is currently doing ) Jones is a different kind of cat and a gift to rock music
Ahh yes, from the Rarities Boot, really fun to listen to, lots of improvising and you can even hear in one section where Bonzo was explaining a section to Robert (and that was when I realized why he was irreplaceable, he was an important writer in the band, just like the rest of them!)
I like the drum intros before the guitars kick in in this version rather than the studio. Jonesy definately does not get enought credit for being as bad ass as he is on the bass. Thank goodness for youtube where you can easily access such great moments in rock n roll history with just one click of a mouse.
I just found this by accident!
I've been a huge Zeppelin fan for years, but never in my wildest dreams would I expect to hear such a demo.
"Black Dog" was the first song that I'd ever 'heard'. The first song that I made a real emotional connection with. Ever since, I've been an audiophile.
I now make my living as a musician/composer/ music producer/engineer.
To hear 'Black Dog' in such an embryonic state like this is fantastic!
This is the best 7 minutes I've spent all year! WooHoo!!
this is essentially JPJ teaching the song to the other guys haha
Yes he brought this riff in “
Bonham Great 👍 “
Elvis doing this? AWESOME!!
When Jimmy lets that power A growl on and on in the 1/22/73 Southampton show, the tone conjures up the beast itself.
it's nice to hear that even they get jumbled up in the rhythm sometimes! At this stage it's probably only JP jones who really gets it haha
As a long time fan, this is timeless. I've liked a lot of different music over the years and most stuff does not withstand the test of time. Led Zeppelin withstands.
Wow, this is a great find - I love the song. Never in a million years would I have guessed that JPJ came up with the riff and Pagey was learning it from him.
this is John Paul Jones's riff
my all time favourite riff from my all time favourite bass player from my all time favourite band
its like sitting in on their jam session....so cool!
Headley grange is 10 minutes from my house, how awesome.
Wow, Zepps sound is so tough and powerful and badass like no other rock band in history.
At about 4:20 they start jamming and then you can hear them stumble upon the breakdown that appears in the album version.
its not a jam.
Like watching Einstein work out E=MC 2
+Tracy Black
Great comparison.
Rock music history in the making.
Nuf said.
They are jamming it out
love this upload. as most zep fans know JPJ came up with the riff and you can really hear him taking the lead here and trying to teach it to the band . especially around 1:38. JPJ so underrated and not well known to common man. even in this outtake you can hear bonhams awesome sound..... roaring bass drum and cracking snare drum.
Everyone says that he is "overrated" whatever that means, but it reality when most classic rock fans think, Versatile musician, he is the first to mind, and not to forget he is voted one of the greatest bassist.
Guitar Tech V Naar did say to the common person, maybe referring to ppl who just hear zep on the radio
this is beyond cool! having the masters figure it out as they go and then all of a sudden GET IT is incredible! I love posters on youtube for finding these gems!
WilsonEatsASMR
It was about as interesting to me as discussing smelly farts.
Amazing. Still a great song after so many decades. I like this early version it's so bluesy.
Two influences for Black Dog were Fleetwood Mac's song 'Oh Well' and a "long, rambling blues riff from Muddy Water’s record called Electric Mud.”
I remember reading somewhere that those were actually the influences for heartbreaker, but i could be wrong
its just pure raw energy... its incredible how the end result they recorded retains that rawness. they were a truly amazing group of musicians, each feeding of the other. awesome!
These are priceless. No other rock band even touches the planet that Zep was on. THANKS SO MUCH for posting these!!
Omfg, amazing JPJ, what a tone!
Lovely to hear Bonham at work
RIP John. The guvnor
Extraordinary clip of the band creating together
The fact that this was recorded is a cause for celebration!! This incredible song was still being developed by each member (other than Jones) and gives an insight to how quickly they picked up on each other’s songs. Bonham developed the straight 4/4 beat under the riff, Jimmy was still learning the the song and Plant was trying to find a way to add his vocals.
But the basis of the song is there. Jimmy’s solo is almost identical to the final version, Plant quickly developed the “ahhh, ahhhh” idea on the spot and we have confirmation that Jones wrote the entire song
holy shit, the making of one of the most famous songs in rock history. more please!
Incredible.
You can hear the song evolving into the stdio version.
Jones came up with the riff.
Love how the Bass leads it and how the Drums drives it further. Great upload! Thanks very much.
This is a glimpse into the creation of another Zeppelin masterpiece. Sound quality is great.
God, I wish i born around this time to see them live. I had to be born in the 80's damn it!
it is so incredible to hear the process of Black Dog creation:)
@rickydal yes, John Paul Jones reportedly came up with the Black Dog riff, and it was a bit tricky in the turnaround sections - also inspired by a version of SMokestack lightnin off The Howlin' Wolf Album.
I love that this is just a work in progress and still has so much power and personality. Their iconic status is well-deserved.
I wish I could've seen them live, just the greatest band ever!!!!
I unfortunately saw what was their last show in America, Oakland July 1977.
The kit comin in at 2:56 says it all.
What a great find for me and everyone.
This is a brilliant piece of music. Bonham is epic!
How the heck did you get this??? Where did you find it??? EXTRAORDINARY!!
Explosively groovy! So cool to hear the genius work in progress.
Jimmy's solo! This rehearsal which turned into these amazing rockin' licks. How the solo starts with that one lick! It's so fucking raw!
ThIS is pure diamond
These guys sound good hope that they make it one day.
my first Zep song and hearing it in its infancy is just as exciting as hearing it for the first time 35 years ago!
I think they could make it if they keep at it!
awesome band rehersal!!!!!!!! wish i was there. damn! its LED ZEP!!!!!!!! making history...
led zeppelin actually made up most of the fourth album's material on the spot...pretty ridiculously awesome. John Paul Jones sure came up with a badass riff. its cool how the lyrics that Plant is singing are different. keep rockin
Magickal,this is more sublime every time I listen,it's like the birth of a baby and these four legends gently bringing it up and into the World......you can hear just damn phenomenal Bonzo is,well all four,slowly waking it up and suddenly the steam train gathers pace,it's ethereal!
wow this is fckn awesome. you can hear the genius in all 4 of them putting this great song together. even in this poor quality you can hear bonzos signature sound. remarkable.
I just love that recordings such as this have somehow survived. What fun!
The drums here are so powerful!
I like the drum intro better here than on the studio album. They were ALL BRILLIANT and 4 musicians tis talented will NEVER happen again!!!!! In 200 years, if people are still around, Zep will be looked opon as Motzart is today! People are over looking how easy Bonham put this together. With the "odd time" breaks, he makes it groove as usual
I like this better than the studio recording..
Good way for my band to learn this song. The way they broke it in down & the final cut is cool
"The Black dog riff was composed by John Paul Jones." Indeed, in this rehearsal, you can see that Johnsy first set an example and everyone is following it. The part where the riff and the drum are off by 1/2 beat seems to be difficult!
JPJ says Bonham and Page really struggled at first to get the time signature down. It had to be really tough when they first heard it.
I like the groove inwhich Plant sings on this demo - wish it was on the original.
just incredible to hear them talking and hear how it evolves what a find thank you
@johnygrasa Jones wrote the riff for this song and many others. Page said the original riff was to difficult and he had to alter it.
Simply Amazing!!
GREAT STUFF, IVE NEVER HEARD THIS BEFORE, IT JUST GOES TO PROVE THAT JHB PULLED THIS BAND TOGETHER
jemmani22...the riff is brought to Zep by JPJ, that is why you can hear the bass playing the riff and the guitar trying to learn it. Check the facts first.
i dont know what it is about Bonham's drums, even playing little out take bits... his rhythm, style and sound are simply the best... so fluid and and funky its just damn amazing...
When your that great all you need is Drums @ Bass “
they say that this song or the main riff itself is from JPJ, he came up with the riff. wow Jonesy is a brilliant Bass, Keyboard, Organ and all types of guitars playing. if you close your eyes and just hear the music nd concentrate you will feel as if your in the room with them rehearsing the song.
@5H4V3D89 Inimitable. And he might be the only drummer of whom it could be said that, if you took every other instrument out of the mix on each song, you'd still recognise the track instantly because his drumming tells the story of the song. Some of his "riffs" are the actual driving force. Kashmir and When The Levee Breaks are two examples, I'd say.
John Paul Jones is one talented musician....BadAss!
Thanks for posting. Those of you in your 40's remember being a teenager in 70's not having much on the band. I love this posting and keep learning about the band. Wondering how Page got a writting credit on the song? I've read that Jonesy said that it was Bonham who figured out a part in the song.
this is such a smokin song... maybe one of the top 20 of all time....
this is history.you can hear Jimmy figure out the licks in 2 or 3 tries and then let the beast do his thing.VERY IMPRESSIVE! this is a monent in time that is historical
That's quite awesome to listen to...shame there's no video...
But to listen to a really raw and rough diamond knowing how good the finished product is... WoW!
They must have spent alot of time working on it...
rumour had it that while Jimmy was recording his only solo lp, his home in London was broken into and alot of outtakes and some masters of Zeppelin were taken.I always wondered where it would end up.Great shit don't get me wrong but ,if this is the stuff that was taken from Jimmys house its a shame and,a blessing,,,cos we get to hear but,then he lost these tapes forever. And Yes JPJ did bring this song with him to headley grange. it was his baby.
@Rover775 yeah, they where kind of private, wich is why every interview or film of them is considered RARE, my cousin's friend has film of led zeppelin in Headley Grange and its just 10min of led zep hangin around the house and rehearsing, and its valued over 1200$,
indeed killer stuff and a window in as they make the magic !
thanks for this gift , bonzo smile's on you from heaven imho
see ya , al --- i grew up on zep at 46 i still love em !
This should have a million views.
JPJ 👏👏👏👏
Mighty Zeppelin forever...
the quiet one in the back, the arranger par excellence - JPJ.
Sounds like they came up with it on the spot. Amazing...
You're right. The population is too musically illiterate to appreciate a band like Led Zeppelin.
Brilliant; brilliant; brilliant: Mr Jones and Mr Bonham are geniuses
That raw sound is great, and what is going in very interesting :-) 🙈
A corma q eles eram sincronizados era absurda, john era outro monstro
supposedly (forgot where I read this right now, can try to dig it up), Jonesy got the inspiration for a rolling type of blues riff from this more "psychedelic" version of "Smokestack Lightning":
if you search on youtube for "Howlin' Wolf - Smokestack Lightnin' (electric version) ", you should be able to hear it.
the electric Wolf version is nowhere near as good as his original, nor Zep's "Black Dog" - I love'em both!
I can't believe this exists. Bonham frustrated trying to figure out what to play.
all 4 zeps brings something into the mix... Bonham-solid groove, Pagey-guitar and studio trickery, Pagey-whailing and Jones-this little magical element....
You mean Percy wailing?
Thanks for the great post. Rock n Roll genius at work here!
wish the bass would have had this same tone in the studio version.
OMG! love it!!! i love the flare in my speakers!!! so loud and....and...AWESOME!!!! thx for the post!!
Wooooooooooow!!! Thanks for posting these rehersals!!!! Damn... They kicked ass!!!
Oh absolutely!
Wow, thanks so much for sharing such a rarity.
Bonham grooves harder then any drummer in history!