Bishop, thank you for this. I am a Protestant pastor who has discover the truth of the Catholic Church and Faith through wonderfull Catholic teachers and people such as yourself. Now I am on my journey Home, out of Protestantism. It makes me sad and missereble when I think how many times as a pastor I preached untrue protestant dogmas to my congregation - espesialy on this issue of so called sola fide. May God have mercy on me. Thank you again Bishop for all the work you and the people of Word on Fire do. May God bless and keep you all.
At the end of the day being protestant or being catholic is not the core issue, it is Christ in you, the hope of glory that is the core issue. Christianity isn't a denomination or dare I say even a 'religion' in the traditional sense. It is declaration of God intervening and ultimately coming down to save humanity. Whether you are a Catholic or Protestant is such a smaller issue.
"From faith to faith"! An ever growing faith that is transformed by love can not be devoid of the good works God has prepared for us beforehand (Ep 2:10). Hence, a "lively faith in works of love" Our quest for God is never spent in vain. You have humbled me and moved me one notch up. Thank you and God bless!
I am praying about converting to the Catholic Church. Please pray for me because I also remember the verse that Jesus said. “ by their fruits, you will know them.” you can’t just say I excepted Jesus and not do anything to show for it.
That's fully in accord with the teaching that we're justified through faith alone. I believe as Luther did, and hold that faith always produces good works otherwise it's not true faith. The point is good works don't save a person because our works are always imperfect and incapable of making us righteous before God. Only faith which receives Christ's righteousness makes us righteous and saved in God's eyes.
@@albaniancrusader01 The reason is because unless our faith results in us loving others it's a false faith. So if it was possible to be able to do by faith such amazing things as move mountains, this faith wouldn't save a person because it's necessary for faith to produce love in order for it to be saving faith. However the love that faith produces doesn't justify us (make us righteous before God) as only faith in Christ justifies us, which is prior to love and good works. Romans 4:1-5 ESV - What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness
I was raised a "true-blue" protestant. I was, for a few years, a pastor. I experienced a revelation of the inadequacy of the salvation by grace through faith doctrine and tried to articulate its inadequacy, speaking to the necessity that we must go further, that grace through faith was the beginning but not the totality, that people were lost because they believed they had a forensic salvation and there was no corresponding "working out" or transformation. It came from my own sense, from my own certainty that I, myself, could not consider myself saved without the concrete reality of genuine transformation growing in Christlikeness in-forming me. When I sought to urge those in my congregations and life to "walk in this path" I was rather unceremoniously removed from office and family. Thank you Bishop Barron for speaking so well to this issue.
God bless you for speaking the truth, & the truth as spoken by Christ is often rejected by men, even by those who profess to be Christians. No wonder Jesus had said, 'Woe to you if men speak well of you!'. Pastors who speak on the need to imitate Jesus, to strive to 'be perfect, as Your Heavenly Father is perfect' (Matt 5:48) will be unpopular among the congregation, so I feel sorry for protestant pastors, & I understand why many preach 'prosperity gospels'! 😮😢No wonder Jesus had said "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord' will enter the Kingdom of heaven" (Matt 7:21). Have faith, & let it produce the fruits of righteousness & good works; & remember it is God's opinion of us which matters, not men's opinion!
Amen and may our Savior assume you into heaven for your spoken truth. We wish they would have listened. Come home to Him and walk the single road to Christ
He is using the excellency of speech and enticing words of man's wisdom of men causing you to believe a lie. 2 Peter 2:17-19 (KJV) 17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 1 Corinthians 2:1-5 (KJV) 1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: 5 that your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. This is pure philosophy what this catholic priest is saying. Colossians 2:8 (KJV) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. If it says it's not of works then it is not of works. Ephesians 2:8-10 Authorized (King James) Version 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
@@hatoffnickelNot sure about this commenter. But for me, papal infallibility & primacy, mortal/venial sin, and thus purgatory, and the OT canon including books that were not historically considered to be canon neither by early jews or early christians. I would so love to be a Catholic but I simply feel I cannot accept these inaccuracies. I’m even okay with the Marian dogmas & communion of saints. But these 3 issues seem to tear apart the message of the gospel.
@@Flame1500 As I am reading through and reviewing today's sermon on how to show grace there are always going to challenges, but in the end, Jesus Christ founded the Chruch the Catholic Church, Universal Church. Once Jesus Christ said 18“And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades shall not overpower it. Mt 16:18. That is the primacy and as Peter carries on what Jesus built there in is the connection. Are there Popes that have made human mistakes of course but the guidance is what the Primacy comes from.
I am an agnostic atheist who grew up as a Protestant Christian. I am now in my mid 30s and Bishop Barron is one of the few people who I have witnessed has treated this with depth and seriousness, and as I grow older, my respect for this man only gets deeper.
I’m catholic. But his sermons clear up many questions I have. A rebirth of sorts. But he and other great theologians have helped me tremendously. You and continue to grow in our faith
Bishop Barron is great. He’s just good at communicating the great Catholic theological and intellectual tradition. So many misconceptions about Catholicism out there but for those who take the time to learn the Catholic positions it starts making a lot of sense.
I’m just not sure if all Catholics have a hard time reading. The explanation is inverse 46. If you’re righteous before God, then he will count your good works for you. They didn’t earn any salvation, but he will say good job and give you a blessing for it. That’s why each group says when do we do that to you? And even though weren’t aware of their works only those . But God will commend the work of the righteous . And not commend the work of the unrighteous. Many wicked people donate to charities, many wicked people, support programs that help those in jail . Even evil people people can get good gifts. Only those who are righteous, only their works, will count for them . And the good works of the unrighteous will not count for them. Surprised Bishop couldn’t figure that out or didn’t know that
@@JC_Forum_of_ChristI don't think what you're saying particularly finds error in what Bishop Barron said about "Faith acting through love". the wicked person who occasionally does good things presumably does not have faith.
@@jonathanmiller5232 The bishop says only those that show works get saved. And that simply isn’t true . The job did not send against God . What made Joe saved? Because Jobe can exclaim the middle of this trial faith in Christ. Job 19:25 I know my Redeemer lives. Jesus is merely warning that only the righteous is good acts will be counted for them . But it’s only their faith in Christ that redeems them and that’s what already makes them she . Works do nothing. If you are saved and you don’t show good works then that means you’re not saved. It’s pretty simple.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works so that no one may boast.”-Ephesians 2:8-9
Yes, after Paul makes it abundantly clear that no one is saved BY their works he goes on to say that the person saved by faith alone is saved FOR works (or put another way, the grounds of salvation is faith alone, but the purpose of salvation is for works). He did not in any of the following verses contradict his previous statement. Works are the evidence of genuine faith, but as Paul declared emphatically, works are not the basis/means of salvation.
As a protestant trained at a non denominational Christian University I completely agree with everything Bishop Barron taught today. It is true that some young Christians, both Protestant and Catholic, get caught up in this issue and get it wrong, but Bishop Barron is spot on in his teaching!!! The initial move to Christ is an act of faith for sure, but once you are saved you must cooperate with the Holy Spirit and your life must demonstrate the fruit of the spirit - love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, forbearance, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. James 2:18 could not be any clearer.
Personally, I'm pretty sure Catholic or Protestant is a false dichotomy. Of course, I have friends whose ancestors were persecuted by both sides because of they refused to fight for an earthly kingdom.
This is beautiful and concise. I have always enjoyed Bishop Barrons messages and podcast for the Clarity of Catholic positions that i previously did not understand. Understandably, as Western Christians, we Protestants and Catholics are going to have some very real overlap here. In this mesage I found myself reaching for a while to find a distinction. Fortunately The Bishop brought it up for me, Imputed Righteousness v. Infused (sorry if thats the wrong word) Righteousness. There is a sense, even that there is an indwelling righteousness that comes into a person when they accept Christ by faith. The faith should be active and living, it should not be a faith that is "alone." Faith that is true will display love and express itself in love. I don't think that I would disagree with the Catholic position on these things at all. However, the distinction would come when it comes to my justification. My forensic righteousness, my declarative righteouss standing before God. The Reformed Protestant belief (as far as I understand it) would be my being declared "righteous" before God is an utterly free gift. My sanctification, my works of love that flow from this gift is a process that ebbs and flows, and by God's grace progresses, but it will never affect my righteous standing before God, because that is not based on those things, but only on the righteous work of Christ given to me by faith. I state this not as a debate, but just to see of i can accurately summarize the differences of views. Hopefully I have a fuller and more right understanding. Some further questions I would have, is from a Catholic point of view, how do I know I have acted with enough works of love to know I have maintained, or progressed through Justification? That is one of the more classic questions that convinces me more of the imputed righteousness view. I really really enjoy how the Bishop brings up the tension and complexity of Paul and the New Testament. I agree it is not always so straight forward. One area I would question him from Romans, is that it seems to me that Paul is looping righteousness by the Moral Law into that "not being justified by works of the Law" in that in the chapters previous he seemes to emphasize that all have fallen short of this law in describing Gentiles and Jews having the moral law within them, but no one accomplishing it. Ill have to go back and re-study that with some different lenses on to see if I can see what the Bishop sees. If any Catholic has read through this long comment, please share some resources on your perspective on my questions or explain how maybe my questions are the wrong questions or thoughts. I have realized lately how the differences between Catholic and Protestant thought is extremely metaphysical. So I've been trying to pour over these things with an open mind and really trying to understand.
I recommend you read the book, Rome Sweet Home, by Professor Scott Hahn. This is an excellent resource. Scott Hahn was a protestant pastor for many years. He eventually converted to Catholicism. 😊
I've been working through the RCIA at my local Catholic Church this year. I spent thirty years moving all over primarily with the military. And usually I've just found a local protest non-denominational church to attend. I always thought ok, I got church covered. Let just read my bible and pray and I'm good with God. Well since moving to where I am now I am less than half a mile from a very large Catholic Church. After COVID I decided I needed to find a church and after looking around I decided I would go to the Catholic Church. Let me say WOW and what a blessing it is to be a member of the Catholic Church! It is truly a blessing and I feel as if everything is more authentic, everything has meaning and a profoud history to back it up. The protestant churches have NONE of that. Just loud music like your going to a concert and a "feel good" sermon. I love love love listening to your homilies Bishop Baron! And the Word on Fire Institute is fantastic. Thank you for what you do and your service to the rest of us lay people! God Bless you and all the clergy!
This ❤️ There is just so much to love about being a Catholic. The richness of the scripture, the history, the tradition, which stood the test of time. ❤️ God bless you on your journey with God!
@marcbloc1963 my mother had me baptized in the Catholic Church as an infant. But she stopped taking me to church when I was 5 or 6. Having not known that I was already baptized I got baptized again at 18 in a Protestant church.
I'm a Protestant that once grew up Catholic. I love listening to this Bishop. He's very graceful in his teaching....as like a father that has a loving heart to heart with a child. I have great respect for him and I know he loves Jesus. That said, I do not agree with all that he says or what Rome teaches. But at least he is more gracious than a lot of Protestant pastors I know. I will say that if I do return to the Catholic church, it would be because of this Bishop. God bless him.
Coming from the RC church most of my life, I have not learned justification by grace through faith until I converted two years ago as a born again Christian. It was a blessing because the Lord granted me so much desire to learn His Word & I must say how this explanation of Bishop Barron completely forgot that justification & sanctification cannot be discussed in isolation. They go hand in hand! We don’t invite the Lord in our lives but rather He sovereignly works in us. The Father draws us to Jesus, thus, regenerating us & renewing our minds. He alone is credited for our salvation. Our being united in Christ & the cross is the root but when Christ lives in you through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, you begin to be empowered to conform to Christ. Your good works become the fruits of the root. Because Christ’s love overwhelms your life, you grow in love with Him & therefore your obedience to Him intensifies. However, the vestiges of sin remains in us, thus, the process of sanctification happens because being a Christian is a daily struggle between the flesh & the Spirit. The gift of salvation produces the fruit/good works/love but only after Christ had sovereignly work in our regeneration & saved us from the bondage of sin. I would have appreciated this more if Bishop Barron referred and exegeted some more on the other texts of Paul and even expounded on James in relation to Paul’s explanation of justification.
God please continue to give me strength because I’m losing hope. As Christians it’s important to trust God no matter what we are going through. God is our only strength in this world. Like many other single parents things are tough on me. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m constantly struggling to provide for them and now that I’m home schooling them things are especially hard. I’m having trouble getting their school supplies. I’m overwhelmed. Father God hear my prayers. My faith in you is strong! Even as I constantly struggle to pay my rent. And I constantly struggle to provide groceries for my children. I trust you Lord! I’m keeping faith. Walking with faith is the most important thing us christian’s must do. That’s why love compassion and prayers are all we truly need. Please keep me and my boys in your prayers.
I will pray for you. I can also sense the alarm in you due to your circumstances. I have schizophrenia and boy do I not struggle. I have, however, chosen to accept everything with joy, knowing it is a trial I must accept for the process of my preparation for life eternal. Mother Theresa of Calcuta said to accept everything with joy, and after you meditate on it, it can change your life for the better too. Keep going, it won't be this hard always.
You seem to be doing just fine, you’ve got 5K subscribers and all your information in your bio for Pay Pal, and apparently posting these pious prayers in the comment sections of religious videos rakes in enough paying subscribers so that you’ve got a load of impersonators. Please don’t make our Father’s house a den of thieves whilst disguising it as a house of prayer. There will be a consequence. Even if your need is genuine, this manipulation is not the way to get it met. Talk to your pastor in private.
The council of Trent says, “faith is the beginning and root of our justification.” Apart from faith there is no salvation, but it’s not “faith alone” that saves us! Real faith must imitate Christ in works of Love. ❤️
@@NP-vk8de How do you know when you are “saved”? Do you judge yourself? Why does St. Paul says, “work out your salvation in fear and trembling”? If you are saved, and you have full assurance, why be afraid? If our works have no basis for our salvation, then why does St Paul say: “ render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in-well doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious, and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury” (Romans 2: 6-8). I know your response, those who do not obey where never saved in the first place. Really? So, we have lost our freedom after our initial justification?
@@tmvtbb00 thanks for your response, but are you trying to pick a fight or lack knowledge of the scriptures? Romans 10:9, 13 are the litmus test for whether you are a real Christian. The Word clearly states that Jesus death on the cross completed the work of our redemption. Where the conundrum or misunderstanding occurs between Catholics and Lutherans is Catholics think they have to do good works or aid Jesus in His work of salvation, while Lutherans say we are justified by our faith in what Jesus did on the cross, BUT “good works” follow. Yes, yes, good works are absolutely necessary but with different motivation. Hope this helps? Let’s bury the hatchet of animus between Catholics and Lutherans, Jesus is not pleased. Jesus is Lord!
I am protestant and agree that faith saves, but the faith that saves is not alone - it works. Faith, true faith, worketh by love. I agree with Bishop Barron that Luther and Protestantism in general puts an overemphasis on faith/grace to the degree that “easy believism” is the result. It’s sad to me that the protestant/catholic divide exists.
this brings to mind the parable of the rich man and the 3 servants with the talents, if we don’t go forth and work to multiply his talents, even what is freely given can be taken away.
I am a Catholic convert to Catholicism from a Protestant denomination that never believed in “coming forward at one time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior” and then being baptized and, that’s it one and done. My denomination believed that your life had to literally change to reflect Christ’s forgiveness and love in your “new life in Christ”. I know it was much easier to understand the Catholic faith than some of my Baptist friends in RCIA. As a Protestant I never felt like I was “working for my salvation” but, that if I loved Our Lord truly my life would reflect it. Thank you, Bishop Barron, for being a true voice for Our Lord and Our Faith in this day and age. Peace be with you ✞✞✞
Hi Teresaeliza. I am not exactly sure what you believe, however, I would like to share what I believe mainstream Protestants (Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, etc.) believe in hopes of clarifying any misunderstandings regarding what Protestants believe. If you believe that you need to do something to earn salvation and eternal life, you most likely do not believe that Jesus' payment for your sins is not sufficient for you to be right with God and be declared righteous. The Apostle Paul wrote: I do not wish to have any righteousness of my own based on the Law, but one that comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness given by God in response to faith. (Philippians 3:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Once one has accepted Jesus' atonement for their sins, they are saved and have been declared righteous in the eyes of God, however, since we are still in the flesh, we will continue to sin, even though we do not wish to intentionally desire to sin. The flesh is weak. Let's first take a look at what James wrote to determine whether James taught one gains eternal life by just believing Jesus died for their sins or whether one gains eternal life by believing and doing good works. 14 True Faith Is Proved by Works.[c] What good is it, my brethren, if someone claims to have faith but does not have good works? Can such faith save him? 15 [d]Suppose a brother or sister is naked and lacks his or her daily food. 16 If one of you says to such a person, “Go in peace; keep warm and eat well,” but does not take care of that person’s physical needs, what is the good of that? 17 In the same way, faith by itself is dead if it does not have works. 18 But perhaps someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith without works, and by works I will show you my faith. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well to assert that. But even the demons believe and tremble. (James 2:14-19 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) James is saying in James 2:14-19 that if claims they have faith but does nothing to show it (good works), they are most likely not saved and do not really have faith to believe that Jesus died for their sins. If one is truly saved, one will want to do good. Many who believe that there is a God but do not fully believe that Jesus paid the penalty of their sins, attempt to be justified by their works. This is what the Apostle Peter wrote: 18 For you are aware that you were ransomed from your futile way of life inherited from your ancestors not with perishable things like silver or gold, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ,[j] a lamb without blemish or defect. (1 Peter 18-19 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Ransomed (or redeemed) means that when Jesus died and shed His blood, He paid you everyone's sins, however, for one's sins to be atoned for, one must accept this gift (Ephesians 2:8: Romans 6:23). One who truly has faith and is truly saved will do good works (Ephesians 2:10; James 2:18). That is why James wrote: "Show me your faith without works, and by works I will show you my faith" (James 2:18). Just because one believes there is a God does not guarantee that one is saved and has eternal life, as James wrote: "You believe that there is one God. You do well to assert that. But even the demons believe and tremble" (James 2:19.) Yes, Satan and the demons believe there is a God, however, they are not saved from eternal damnation (2 Thessalonians 1:9). In the same way, those who believe there is a God but do not believe that Jesus paid for all their sins, is not saved. Ephesians 2:8-9 states: ' "8 For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith. This has not come from you but from the gift of God. 9 It does not come from works, so that no one can boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Once one has become saved by faith, one is to do good works, as the next verse states: "10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for a life of good works that God had prepared for us to do." (Ephesians 2:10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Those who believe that Jesus died for their sins and have become saved are not at liberty to sin, for this would go against everything Jesus taught. The Apostle Paul wrote: 1 What then shall we say? Should we persist in sin in order that grace may abound? 2 Of course not! We have died to sin. How can we live in it any longer? ... 5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall also be united with him in his resurrection. 6 We know that our old[d] self was crucified with him, so that our sinful body might be destroyed and we might no longer be enslaved to sin. 7 For whoever has died has been freed from sin. 8 However, if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him.[e] 9 We know that Christ, once raised from the dead, will never die again. Death no longer has power over him. 10 When he died, he died to sin once and for all. However, the life he lives, he lives for God. 11 In the same way, you must regard yourselves as being dead to sin and alive for God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore, do not allow sin to reign over your mortal body and make you obey its desires. 13 Nor should you present any part of your body as an instrument for wickedness leading to sin. Rather, present yourselves to God as having been raised from death to life and the parts of your body to God as instruments for righteousness. 14 For sin is no longer to have any power over you, since you are not under the Law but under grace. (Romans 6:1-2, 5-14 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Philippians 3:9 states: "I do not wish to have any righteousness of my own based on the Law [of Moses], but one that comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness given by God in response to faith." (Philippians 3:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Do you believe one obtains eternal life by having faith and doing good works? If so, you most likely do not believe that Jesus' atonement for your sins is sufficient. The Apostle Paul wrote: 23 For all have sinned and thereby are deprived of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified by the gift of his grace that is given freely through the redemption in Christ Jesus. 25 God designated him to be a sacrifice of expiation* of sin through faith by the shedding of his blood because in his divine forbearance he allowed to be unpunished the sins previously committed. 26 He thus demonstrated his righteousness in the present time so that he might show himself to be just as the one who justifies anyone who has faith in Jesus. (Romans 3:23-26 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) * The word "expiration" is translated into English in this translation from the Greek word "hilastérion" which means "propitiatory." That is, "(a) a sin offering, by which the wrath of the deity shall be appeased; a means of propitiation, (b) the covering of the ark, which was sprinkled with the atoning blood on the Day of Atonement." I believe one is saved by faith alone and I do good works because I am saved from God's wrath: 9 And so, now that we have been justified by Christ’s blood, how much more certainly will we be saved through him from divine retribution.[d] 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more certain it is that, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. (Romans 5:9-10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Do you believe that Jesus died for all your sins? If so, all your sins (past, present, and future) have been paid for. That is the Good News of the Gospel. That is why the Apostle John could write the following passages: 16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may attain eternal life. 17 “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe in him already stands condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God… 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not believe in the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God rests upon him.” [to believe also means to have faith in.] (John 3:16-18, 36 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 24 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever hears my words and believes in the one who sent me possesses eternal life. He will not come to judgment but has passed from death to life. (John 5:24 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 47 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. (John 6:47 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. (1 John 5:13 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) If these promises are not true, why were they includes in the Bible? It is true that there are many passages of Scripture that indicate that one is to do good works. Good works please God, however, good works will not save anyone's soul from eternal punishment in hell. Before Jesus died for our sins, the Hebrews were to obey the Law of Moses, however, once Jesus died for our sins, we are to live by faith and not by the Law (Romans 3:20; 3:28; Galatians 3:21-25, etc.) If one is saved by doing good works, how many good works must one do to obtain eternal life? Remember, no one will be able to boast about being saved and having eternal life, as the Apostle Paul wrote: 9 It [salvation - see verse 8] does not come from works, so that no one can boast. (Ephesians 2:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) I would welcome your response. Al
Well exactly. But still it is only faith that saves (' For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith' Eph 2:8). There's a saying that it is faith alone that saves - but not a faith that is alone. Works will come if faith is real. Like if you plant an orange tree and water it, you will get fruit.
@@daviddrysdale6744 I've noticed Protestants like to quote Ephesians 2:8,9 (we are saved by faith through grace, not works, lest anyone should boast), but they often ignore the next verse ie Ephesians 2:10 (we are created by God to do good works)!
Hi@@RosalindToh Yes, Ephesians 2:8-9 is a good passage as it explains that salvation is given by God's grace, not by our efforts to become righteous. This is what this passage says: "8 For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith. This has not come from you but from the gift of God. 9 It does not come from works, so that no one can boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Once one has become saved by faith, one is to do good works, as the next verse states: "10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for a life of good works that God had prepared for us to do." (Ephesians 2:10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Do you believe one obtains eternal life by having faith and doing good works? Do you believe that Jesus' atonement for your sins? The Apostle Paul wrote: 23 For all have sinned and thereby are deprived of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified by the gift of his grace that is given freely through the redemption in Christ Jesus. 25 God designated him to be a sacrifice of expiation* of sin through faith by the shedding of his blood because in his divine forbearance he allowed to be unpunished the sins previously committed. 26 He thus demonstrated his righteousness in the present time so that he might show himself to be just as the one who justifies anyone who has faith in Jesus. (Romans 3:23-26 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) * The word "expiration" is translated into English in this translation from the Greek word "hilastérion" which means "propitiatory." That is, "(a) a sin offering, by which the wrath of the deity shall be appeased; a means of propitiation, (b) the covering of the ark, which was sprinkled with the atoning blood on the Day of Atonement." I believe one is saved by faith alone and I do good works because I am saved from God's wrath: 8 Thus, God proved his love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us. 9 And so, now that we have been justified by Christ’s blood, how much more certainly will we be saved through him from divine retribution.[d] 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more certain it is that, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. (Romans 5:8-10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Do you believe that Jesus died for all your sins? If so, all your sins (past, present, and future) have been paid for. That is the Good News of the Gospel. That is how the Apostle John could write the following passages: 16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may attain eternal life. 17 “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe in him already stands condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God… 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not believe in the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God rests upon him.” [to believe also means to have faith in.] (John 3:16-18, 36 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 24 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever hears my words and believes in the one who sent me possesses eternal life. He will not come to judgment but has passed from death to life. (John 5:24 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 47 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. (John 6:47 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. (1 John 5:13 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) If these promises are not true, why were they includes in the Bible? It is true that there are many passages of Scripture that indicate that one is to do good works. Good works please God, however, good works will not save anyone's soul from eternal punishment in hell. Before Jesus died for our sins, the Hebrews were to obey the Law of Moses, however, once Jesus died for our sins, we are to live by faith and not by the Law (Romans 3:20; 3:28; Galatians 3:21-25, etc.) If one is saved by doing good works, how many good works must one do to obtain eternal life. Remember, no one will be able to boast about being saved and having eternal life, as the Apostle Paul wrote: 9 It [salvation - see verse 8] does not come from works, so that no one can boast. (Ephesians 2:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) I would welcome your response. Al
TRUE belief comes with it actionable results. The divide here is perception. RC's say we are saved by grace through faith but then forget true saving faith has actions. Non Catholics who know the bible and are truly redeemed know that actionable faith is of the spirit, not human will. RCC says "ok you are catholic, saved by grace, now you MUST COOPERATE with that grace by actions of will" Bible trusting believers redeemed and indwelt by the spirit says "I am saved by Grace THROUGH faith not of my self. My faith is also not of me. My works are Gods works not my works. He works in and through me rather than me working in and through him." For example: Galatians 5:19 "Now the works of the flesh are evident......" Galatians 5:22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is....." One is works on our own accord, the other is action produced not of the flesh or our nature but of the spirit ALONE. Thats the key here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Back up abit, Notice the difference here... Galatians 5:4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. Galatians 5:5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. Grace applies to unredeemed AND redeemed. But notice what is absent for those that fall? !!!! FAITH !!!! Grace THORUGH Faith is True salvation. But Grace is applied even to the unredeemed or else they would suffer release to a debased mind as Romans 1 says. OSAS is false. OSAS is someone claiming GRACE without legitimate faith and living how they want unrestricted by a sprite they never Possessed. They are the Seed that fell on the rock, sprung up and fell away fast without firm ROOT. Faith alone is TRUTH because Faith alone gives fruit from the spirit within. God is the worker of our works. Not us.
I am a Protestant living in South Korea. But I agree with Bishop Barron. I will emphasize the pursuit of grace and cooperation in it. I will emphasize the responsibility of my will. I will express my beliefs. And when I look back, I will confess that it was thanks to grace.
I was raised in a deep trust Christian Protestant family. In 2004 I had some problems and anxiety. Went to a psychiatrist and a psychiatrist for 6 months. After a while I didn’t find any way than go deeper into Christianity and then I couldn’t see any other way than to convert to the Catholic Church and here I could find all the sacraments, more prayers etc. I became a Catholic very quickly already I December 16, 2005. That was definitely the right way for me.
@@NUKE.2024 Luther was more Catholic than people give him credit for. He didn’t want to leave the Roman church, just tweak or update some abuses in the Church. However, an inept hierarchy did not recognize what he was trying to get across. 😞
@@NP-vk8de The 'hierarchy' did recognize and correct some of the issues at the council of Trent. Interesting you seem to defend an anti-jew heretic radical who demanded a few books of the NT be abolished. I'll take Bishop Baron over any internet preacher.
So funny in a good way, when I see BB giving his sermon , it reminds me of a lawyer in closing arguments to a jury. It’s so neat, I know , my husband was a lawyer. Loving my BB…
Simply put, Old Testament law is about living a good earthly life. The New Testament gospel is about what we need to do in order to attain an everlasting life in heaven. ❤
This is by far the most clear explanation of justification by faith working through love that I have ever heard. This should be shown to all Christians in the entire world so they can understand the path to salvation.
WE ARE SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH CHRIST ALONE. I am a catholic but I know all my works are dirty rags and meaningless to God. Christ gave us salvation not because of what we do or who we are but because Christ is who he is. Don’t be deceived and think your works help you get to heaven, it doesn’t and you will be told “flee from me I never knew you”
Turning away from sin is not works… faith transforms lives and without obeying God how can people claim salvation? But they do and a life of deliberate and repeated sin is not one who is saved… he will know them by their fruits… if you love me you will obey me.
I think many protestants would actually agree with this. We can’t earn our way to God through our works, it’s His grace alone. But, the fruit of relationship with God is becoming more and more like him, deepening relationship and love expressed through action (works). The distinction between faith and works is an unfortunate way of defining it as they’re two sides to the same coin when it comes to Christian faith…faith without works isn’t saving Christian faith.
I'm in agreement with Luther, and he held that faith without works is dead. The point at issue though is do good works justify a person, and Paul clearly teaches they don't. Only faith which accepts Christ's righteousness justifies and renders us righteous in God's eyes. Our works, which are necessary as fruits of faith, are imperfect and incapable of justifying us.
@@Jason-uq2hw Faith must be accompanied by love of course otherwise it isn't true faith. But love and good works don't assist in making us righteous (i.e. justified) before God because everything we do is imperfect and can't justify us in God's eyes. Only Christ's righteousness received through faith alone can justify and save us. Luther was correct in saying that we're justified through faith alone as this is what Paul teaches in his letters.
And do you find people with faith and not living that out - demonstrating with works? They are everywhere and most of those people are good, hard working people but their focus is on their own immediate needs. Sometimes putting your faith to work takes a little discomfort and inconvenience. Many people avoid that but those who dont and help bare other’s crosses are truly demonstrating faith and love. BB is a blessing for the Church.
Another thought ive heard is that the work of Christ isnt to merely cover up our fallen nature but to transform it. That transformative process of Christ manifests itself in many forms of love, the queen of all the virtues. By opening our hearts to Christ we allow him to transform us and glorify God.
Hi Shamadan. I am glad that you are a religious person. The Bible is the best source for spiritual truth (2 Timothy 3:16). The Bible teaches that no one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Philippians 3:7-8). Instead, one becomes saved by their faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). Once one is saved, one is to do good works (Ephesians 2:10). Good works reflect what one believes. No one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Titus 3:4-7). If you believe that Jesus died for your sins (John 3:16-18, 36; 5:24; 6:47, etc.), then all your sins have been paid for and forgiven. That is the Good News. (See Romans 5:8 & 1 Peter 1:18-19.) In the account recorded in Matthew 19:16-22, at first glance it appears that Jesus is telling the inquirer that one obtains eternal life by obeying the Ten Commandments (as outlined in Exodus 20:2-17 & Deuteronomy 5:6-21), some of which are mentioned in Matthew 19:16-22. Jesus, however, was attempting to teach the inquirer a lesson that the inquirer was not as perfect as he thought he was. The inquirer claimed that he always keeps the Ten Commandments (Matthew 19:20). Jesus then suggests that the inquirer sell everything he has and then follow Jesus (Matthew 19:21). Without Jesus belittling the inquirer, Jesus shows the inquirer that he was not as righteous as he thought he was. The Law teaches that those who have much are to share with the poor (Deuteronomy 15:7-11). The inquirer was reluctant to part with any of his possessions (Matthew 19:22). Jesus wanted the inquirer to trust in Jesus for life rather in trusting in his own riches. The account ends sadly, as the inquirer went away rather than doing as Jesus suggested (Matthew 19:22). The rich man lacked faith in Jesus, most likely, because he was trusting in his wealth rather than Jesus. The rich man proved to himself he was not so perfect as he thought. This incident is also recorded in Mark 10:17-22 (also see Luke 10:25-37). Those who believe that Jesus died for their sins are to display their faith by what they do. James wrote: Regarding James 2:14-26, just because one believes there is a God is not sufficient for one to be saved and obtain eternal life (2:19). In James 2:21-22, James then uses the illustration of Abraham to show that one demonstrates their faith by what they do. In the next verse (v. 23) James explains that Abraham was declared righteous by God because Abraham believed God. James then states that a person is justified by their faith and displays this faith by what one does. Faith and works work together. God knows what one believes and this faith is demonstrated by what one does (v. 24). The Apostle Paul also wrote about Abraham being declared righteous because of his faith in God (Romans 4:1-3). James and the Apostle Paul are not in a disagreement here. James is explaining in James 2 that one cannot claim to have eternal life by simply claiming they believe they have faith. One displays (to others) what they believe by what they do. The Apostle Paul is explaining that faith in God causes one to be declared righteous (Romans 4:3) in the eyes of God. In Philippians 3:4-8, the Apostle Paul explains what he thought of good works. The next verse (Philippians 3:9) the Apostle Paul wrote that our true righteousness does not come from anything we do. It comes from God (Philippians 3:9).
Gratitude is a very small word for ALL that Bishop Barron is doing for the Religion of Catholicism. I am so happy to say I am a very proud Catholic....God Bless You Bishop Barron.....................
Hi Vernica Battles. The Bible is the best source for spiritual truth (2 Timothy 3:16). The Bible teaches that no one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Philippians 3:7-8). Instead, one becomes saved by their faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). Once one is saved, one is to do good works (Ephesians 2:10). Good works reflect what one believes. No one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Titus 3:4-7). 3 For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, and enslaved by various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy. We ourselves were hateful, and we hated one another. 4 But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5 not because of any righteous deeds on our part but because of his mercy, he saved us through the bath of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he lavished on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that we might be justified by his grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life. (Titus 3:4-7 New Catholic Version) If you believe that Jesus died for your sins (John 3:16-18, 36; 5:24; 6:47, etc.), then all your sins have been paid for and forgiven. That is the Good News. (See Romans 5:8 & 1 Peter 1:18-19.) 18 For you are aware that you were ransomed from your futile way of life inherited from your ancestors not with perishable things like silver or gold, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. (1 Peter 1:18-19 New Catholic Bible) In the account recorded in Matthew 19:16-22, at first glance it appears that Jesus is telling the inquirer that one obtains eternal life by obeying the Ten Commandments (as outlined in Exodus 20:2-17 & Deuteronomy 5:6-21), some of which are mentioned in Matthew 19:16-22. Jesus, however, was attempting to teach the inquirer a lesson that the inquirer was not as perfect as he thought he was. The inquirer claimed that he always keeps the Ten Commandments (Matthew 19:20). Jesus then suggests that the inquirer sell everything he has and then follow Jesus (Matthew 19:21). Without Jesus belittling the inquirer, Jesus shows the inquirer that he was not as righteous as he thought he was. The Law teaches that those who have much are to share with the poor (Deuteronomy 15:7-11). The inquirer was reluctant to part with any of his possessions (Matthew 19:22). Jesus wanted the inquirer to trust in Jesus for life rather in trusting in his own riches. The account ends sadly, as the inquirer went away rather than doing as Jesus suggested (Matthew 19:22). The rich man lacked faith in Jesus, most likely, because he was trusting in his wealth rather than Jesus. The rich man proved to himself he was not so perfect as he thought. This incident is also recorded in Mark 10:17-22 (also see Luke 10:25-37). Those who believe that Jesus died for their sins are to display their faith by what they do. James wrote: Regarding James 2:14-26, just because one believes there is a God is not sufficient for one to be saved and obtain eternal life (2:19). In James 2:21-22, James then uses the illustration of Abraham to show that one demonstrates their faith by what they do. In the next verse (v. 23) James explains that Abraham was declared righteous by God because Abraham believed God. James then states that a person is justified by their faith and displays this faith by what one does. Faith and works work together. God knows what one believes and this faith is demonstrated by what one does (v. 24). The Apostle Paul also wrote about Abraham being declared righteous because of his faith in God (Romans 4:1-3). James and the Apostle Paul are not in a disagreement here. James is explaining in James 2 that one cannot claim to have eternal life by simply claiming they believe they have faith. One displays (to others) what they believe by what they do. The Apostle Paul is explaining that faith in God causes one to be declared righteous (Romans 4:3) in the eyes of God. In Philippians 3:4-8, the Apostle Paul explains what he thought of good works. The next verse (Philippians 3:9), the Apostle Paul wrote that our true righteousness does not come from anything we do. It comes from God (Philippians 3:9). I pray that you will believe the Good News.
As a Lutheran of the Missouri Synod, I wholly agree with this homily. I think he clearly synthesized an argument that could lead to bringing some sides together. Bishop Barron has said that God is Love. I agree. If I have faith in God, I have faith in Love. As a Protestant, having Faith is not a declaration or transaction. It is profound and trembles me, humbles me, and emboldens me. Works flows from the love we have with Christ and the Father. I don't do works because I have to, but because I want to; or the case could be made compelled because of love. Much like the thief on the Cross next to Jesus, when he declared his faith, his heart was filled with love. He could not do any works from then on, but he loved. Love gives me courage. Father Kolbe had courage because he loved. This homily, almost makes our arguments a distinction without a difference.
Thank you for your post. A recent pope agreed with your closing sentiment. I once told a friend we aren't as far apart on this issue as it seems. I believe there is a very organic flow between Faith/Love/Works. God Bless You.
And thank you. I think there is more in common between High Protestants and Catholics then we have with Low Protestants (I do hate to use those divisive terms as it does not bring together the church). I grew saying the Nicene Creed and believe in the catholic church as universal. I am a five Solae kind of guy, but I think there could be room to agree more. And May God bless you as well. @@marywilson4486
I had to train my mind to understand that faith isn't just believing in the presence of God but that it is also an action that we take because of belief in the presence of God being around us.
‘Father Kolbe willingly volunteered to face a long and agonizing death by starvation, as punishment for a crime he didn’t commit, in order to save a stranger from that fate.’ (Auschwitz, 1941). (gracewithducks). faith expressed thru love, thank you Bishop Barron for that lesson on faith thru love. I had not heard that story of Maximilian Kolbe, a perfect example of faith thru love.❤✝️
One of the great things about Bishop Barron is that he is totally committed to a serious theological basis in all his preaching, particularly here, something I rarely get from the homilies at church.
I’ve listened a lot about justification in terms of the faith and works/will narrative. But the of faith and love is beautiful. It makes it all so much clearer. Thank you Father 🙏🏽
to AngelBien from Oliver Clark, Bishop Barron in his diseased 'familyist' family member identity is deliberately preying on psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their procreation gift roles in attempting to groom them with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic false status inducement of "a higher way of love" (time 51:34 of his You Tube podcast interview on 21 July 2022 with Lex Fridman on "Christianity and the Catholic Church") of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God to in error purport presuming inversion of their procreation gift role and identity in need of union for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlements and lower insurance cost by fraud.
Hi AngelBien. The Bible is the best source for spiritual truth (2 Timothy 3:16). The Bible teaches that no one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Philippians 3:7-8). Instead, one becomes saved by their faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). Once one is saved, one is to do good works (Ephesians 2:10). Good works reflect what one believes. No one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Titus 3:4-7). If you believe that Jesus died for your sins (John 3:16-18, 36; 5:24; 6:47, etc.), then all your sins have been paid for and forgiven. That is the Good News. (See Romans 5:8 & 1 Peter 1:18-19.) In the account recorded in Matthew 19:16-22, at first glance it appears that Jesus is telling the inquirer that one obtains eternal life by obeying the Ten Commandments (as outlined in Exodus 20:2-17 & Deuteronomy 5:6-21), some of which are mentioned in Matthew 19:16-22. Jesus, however, was attempting to teach the inquirer a lesson that the inquirer was not as perfect as he thought he was. The inquirer claimed that he always keeps the Ten Commandments (Matthew 19:20). Jesus then suggests that the inquirer sell everything he has and then follow Jesus (Matthew 19:21). Without Jesus belittling the inquirer, Jesus shows the inquirer that he was not as righteous as he thought he was. The Law teaches that those who have much are to share with the poor (Deuteronomy 15:7-11). The inquirer was reluctant to part with any of his possessions (Matthew 19:22). Jesus wanted the inquirer to trust in Jesus for life rather in trusting in his own riches. The account ends sadly, as the inquirer went away rather than doing as Jesus suggested (Matthew 19:22). The rich man lacked faith in Jesus, most likely, because he was trusting in his wealth rather than Jesus. The rich man proved to himself he was not so perfect as he thought. This incident is also recorded in Mark 10:17-22 (also see Luke 10:25-37). Those who believe that Jesus died for their sins are to display their faith by what they do. James wrote: Regarding James 2:14-26, just because one believes there is a God is not sufficient for one to be saved and obtain eternal life (2:19). In James 2:21-22, James then uses the illustration of Abraham to show that one demonstrates their faith by what they do. In the next verse (v. 23) James explains that Abraham was declared righteous by God because Abraham believed God. James then states that a person is justified by their faith and displays this faith by what one does. Faith and works work together. God knows what one believes and this faith is demonstrated by what one does (v. 24). The Apostle Paul also wrote about Abraham being declared righteous because of his faith in God (Romans 4:1-3). James and the Apostle Paul are not in a disagreement here. James is explaining in James 2 that one cannot claim to have eternal life by simply claiming they believe they have faith. One displays (to others) what they believe by what they do. The Apostle Paul is explaining that faith in God causes one to be declared righteous (Romans 4:3) in the eyes of God. In Philippians 3:4-8, the Apostle Paul explains what he thought of good works. The next verse (Philippians 3:9), the Apostle Paul wrote that our true righteousness does not come from anything we do. It comes from God (Philippians 3:9). I pray that you will believe the Good News!
Is there a single commandment you can break while still claiming your faith is love? No. God’s commandments are a way to gauge whether or not we actually do love him and others. Don’t fall for the doublespeak.
Works are an evidence of faith. "Show me your faith without your works and I will show you my faith by my works" says James. Anyone who claims to have faith but does not love others lies, their faith is not real. If I really believe, I will fill my life with Jesus and His power will transform my heart which will be seen in my works.
Protestant View: I think Bishop Barron did an amazing job, he is a very gifted speaker, shows a lot of grace. He really exudes Love and is very humble. I enjoyed it. I disagree a bit, but I still loved it. I do agree with much of what he said. I would put forth Ephesians 2:8-10, Paul's words, as the Bishop was putting forth St Paul's words: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." In my opinion, St Paul is clearly stating our Salvation is by Grace alone. HOWEVER, we are created in Christ Jesus to DO Good Works. As James, the Brother of Christ clearly stated in James 2:14-26 which ends with "so faith without deeds is dead." It appears to me that James is asking if the person WITHOUT "works" or "deeds" has TRUE Faith in the Lord. I think that is a very valid question, that only Christ knows the answer to in regards to a specific individual. As Bishop Barron put it, this is a very complex topic. But regardless we must all Believe in Christ Jesus and accept Him as our Savior. If we do that, I have a hard time understanding how Works would not follow regardless of doctrine.
I actually think this approach is something both Protestants and Catholics could get behind. Yes by faith, but a faith that is expressed through love and good works as Christ now lives in us. Amen!
Thanks Bishop Barron. Being Catholic is not easy, seems other religious traditions only practice part of the faith, that anything more is difficult and not necessary. As Catholics we have the full understanding of faith that Jesus Himself taught.
I’m afraid I disagree with that statement. You are lacking many truths that exist in Protestant denominations. You only have some understanding, not the full understanding.😢
@@NP-vk8de thanks…. honesty I’m not up to speed with the Protestant denominations…however I didn’t name any other denomination. The sacraments Eucharist and Confession are the biggest differences probably. Maybe saved by grace alone not works and grace ?
Now parents, specially Fathers in the family, we need, we must, we at to put these beautiful teaching in simple words for our children, Iive those words and show our kids what that love is . If we parents can pass this in to our children then our Catholic Church will have a brighter future and we will take from the hands of Satan these souls that walk away because they are not feed true Catholicism, it starts at home brothers and sisters! ❤❤❤
to ericksandi from Oliver Clark, Bishop Barron in his diseased 'familyist' family member identity is deliberately preying on psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their procreation gift roles in attempting to groom them with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic false status inducement of "a higher way of love" (time 51:34 of his You Tube podcast interview on 21 July 2022 with Lex Fridman on "Christianity and the Catholic Church") of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God to in error purport presuming inversion of their procreation gift role and identity in need of union for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlements and lower insurance cost by fraud.
Grateful for you words that “love is not a feeling or a sentiment, it is willing the good of the other.” In this way we are moving out of the ego and into the mind of Christ. This can only be done by the Grace of Christ living in us. Continued blessings on your proclamation of the Truth, Sr. Brigid Cannon, OP
@@brigidcannon8130 Learning this definition of love for the very first time about 8-9 years ago from the then Fr. Barron was game-changer in my spiritual life. I owe this shepherd a great deal of gratitude for helping to save my confused soul from wandering away from the Church. Sister please pray for me. I haven't had a job since this year and I surviving has been super difficult. It has prevented me from going to Mass even on days of obligation such as Sundays. Remember my aging parents, pray for good health. I do remember priests and religious people in my prayers when I happen to pray (I currently struggle with sloth).
POPE BENEDICT XVI: “Jesus did not come to teach a philosophy, but to show the way, indeed, the path that leads to life. This path is love, which is the expression of true faith. If you love your neighbor with a pure and generous heart, it means you really know God. But if say you have faith but do not love your brother, then you are not a true believer. God does not dwell in you. As St. James writes: ‘Faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead’.
I like others have studied this subject since my Seminary days at an Evangelical Protestant School. Bishop Barron has not only come to a very reasonable conclusion he has managed to defend his argument well and present it in a very palatable way for those who are not theologians. My dear friend asked me this question of me this very week and I gave him my answer which was a ditto of this. You are a light to all who listen and give great validity to our faith. If you enter into Bishop Barrons circles the question will no longer be "If I should believe" but how than shall I believe and work out this faith. Thanks for your brilliant message.
I have often wondered how some Protestants could declare they are saved by faith, that they could never lose their salvation, and not expect to live out the moral law. Jesus makes it very clear that there is a moral ‘law.’ I find that Protestants put more emphasis on St. Paul”a writings, take things out of context and disregard what Jesus has told us in the Gospels. Your explanation, Bishop Barrron, makes perfect sense. My hope would be that every Protestant listen to your sermon. God bless you!
I think you've misunderstood the protestant position. As someone who agrees with Luther I hold that one can't be saved unless one loves others and does good works, and that by doing this one fulfils the moral law. However at the same time we can't be justified by adherence to the moral law, as we're sinners as Paul teaches in Romans 3, and can only be justified (i.e. be righteous in God's sight) through faith alone. Luther made the point that a good tree will produce good fruit, but that the good fruit doesn't make the tree good, because first of all the tree must be a good tree before it can produce good fruit. Likewise our love and good works don't make us good before God, as it's only faith alone in Christ which makes us justified before God. Christ has atoned for our sins and his righteousness is credited to us through faith alone, and this is what saves us, not our own deeds done in conformity with the moral law. Whatever we do is imperfect and tinged with sin and can't aid in justifying us. God is perfectly holy and only accepts the righteousness credited to us through faith as the means to justify and save us.
Yes, Jesus said "If you love me, you will keep my commandments". If we don't keep His commandments, then we don't love Jesus, and if we don't love Jesus, then we're not saved.
Hi M Avila, Protestants do not believe that no one needs to obey the moral laws. Many of the moral laws mentioned in the Old Testament are also included in the New Testament (Romans 1:24-32; Romans 7:7; Romans 13:8-10; 1 Corinthians 5:11; Galatians 5:19-26; Ephesians 5:3-5; Colossians 3:5, etc.). Protestants believe that those who believe that Jesus died for their sins are not obligated to obey the ceremonial laws (Leviticus 23, etc.), as Jesus paid for our sins when He shed His blood. However, for one's sins to be atoned for (paid for) one must accept Jesus' sacrifice (Romans 5:8). 18 For you are aware that you were ransomed from your futile way of life inherited from your ancestors not with perishable things like silver or gold, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ,[j] a lamb without blemish or defect. (1 Peter 18-19 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Ransomed (or redeemed) means that when Jesus died and shed His blood, He paid you everyone's sins, however, for one's sins to be atoned for, one must accept this gift (Ephesians 2:8: Romans 6:23). One who truly has faith and is truly saved will do good works (Ephesians 2:10; James 2:18). That is why James wrote: "Show me your faith without works, and by works I will show you my faith" (James 2:18). Just because one believes there is a God does not guarantee that one is saved and has eternal life, as James wrote: "You believe that there is one God. You do well to assert that. But even the demons believe and tremble" (James 2:19). Yes, Satan and the demons believe there is a God, however, they are not saved from eternal damnation (2 Thessalonians 1:9). In the same way, those who believe there is a God but do not believe that Jesus paid for all their sins, are not saved. Ephesians 2:8-9 states: "8 For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith. This has not come from you but from the gift of God. 9 It does not come from works, so that no one can boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Once one has become saved by faith, one is to do good works, as the next verse states: "10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for a life of good works that God had prepared for us to do." (Ephesians 2:10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Philippians 3:9 states: "I do not wish to have any righteousness of my own based on the Law [of Moses], but one that comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness given by God in response to faith." (Philippians 3:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) You believe one obtains eternal life by having faith and doing good works. Apparently, you do not believe that Jesus atonement for your sins is sufficient. The Apostle Paul wrote: 23 For all have sinned and thereby are deprived of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified by the gift of his grace that is given freely through the redemption in Christ Jesus. 25 God designated him to be a sacrifice of expiation* of sin through faith by the shedding of his blood because in his divine forbearance he allowed to be unpunished the sins previously committed. 26 He thus demonstrated his righteousness in the present time so that he might show himself to be just as the one who justifies anyone who has faith in Jesus. (Romans 3:23-26 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation * The word "expiration" is translated into English in this translation from the Greek word "hilastérion" which means "propitiatory." That is, "(a) a sin offering, by which the wrath of the deity shall be appeased; a means of propitiation, (b) the covering of the ark, which was sprinkled with the atoning blood on the Day of Atonement." I believe one is saved by faith alone and I do good works because I am saved from God's wrath: 9 And so, now that we have been justified by Christ’s blood, how much more certainly will we be saved through him from divine retribution.[d] 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more certain it is that, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. (Romans 5:9-10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) Do you believe that Jesus died for all your sins? If so, all your sins (past, present, and future) have been paid for. That is the Good News of the Gospel. That is how the Apostle John could write the following passages: 16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may attain eternal life. 17 “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe in him already stands condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God… 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not believe in the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God rests upon him.” [to believe also means to have faith in.] (John 3:16-18, 36 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 24 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever hears my words and believes in the one who sent me possesses eternal life. He will not come to judgment but has passed from death to life. (John 5:24 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 47 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. (John 6:47 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. (1 John 5:13 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) If these promises are not true, why were they includes in the Bible? It is true that there are many passages of Scripture that indicate that one is to do good works. Good works please God, however, good works will not save anyone's soul from eternal punishment in hell. Before Jesus died for our sins, the Hebrews were to obey the Law of Moses, however, once Jesus died for our sins, we are to live by faith and not by the Law (Romans 3:20; 3:28; Galatians 3:21-25, etc.) If you have any other passages of Scripture that you believe supports your view that one is saved by faith and doing good works, please share these passages with me. It does not matter much what I believe. We must determine what the Bible teaches. Patrick, if you know of any passages of Scripture that states that one is saved by doing good works, please share these passages with me. If one is saved by doing good works, how many good works must one do to obtain eternal life. Remember, no one will be able to boast about being saved and having eternal life, as the Apostle Paul wrote: 9 It [salvation - see verse 8] does not come from works, so that no one can boast. (Ephesians 2:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) I would welcome your response. Al
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@@kenw772 Actually he is not, everything he said can be found in the Decrees from the Council of Trent (Session 6 January 1547) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church promulgated by Pope John Paul II in 1992.
Yep and if you are saved you turn away from sin because you love God and want to obey him… those who believe they can sin at will because Christ died for their salvation… miss entirely the will of God and Christ does not live in them 🙏🏻
Fr Barron, you are such a blessing to all people, protestants and Catholics. Thank You!!! Your message echoes the late Timothy Keller of Redeemer Presbyterian in NYC, who had immense respect for the Catholic Church and her people (the reason many Evangelicals did not like him). I love Jesus and I want to express that love, and my gratitude, toward you. May you and your ministry be richly blessed "beyond what we could ever ask or think!" Eph 3:20.
Thank you very much, Bishop. Two weeks ago when you didn't preach on Peter being the rock, I thought maybe you didn't want to stir up the stormy water... This is much needed! Clear, simple, rigorous, and impactful. Thank You!
to@@johnpro2847 from Oliver Clark, Bishop Barron in his diseased 'familyist' family member identity is deliberately preying on psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their procreation gift roles in attempting to groom them with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic false status inducement of "a higher way of love" (time 51:34 of his You Tube podcast interview on 21 July 2022 with Lex Fridman on "Christianity and the Catholic Church") of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God to in error purport presuming inversion of their procreation gift role and identity in need of union for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlements and lower insurance cost by fraud.
Great message Bishop! Protestant here, nothing taught here is in disagreement with anything I’ve been taught in Protestant churches throughout my life. Just my personal experience, I’m sure others could say otherwise. But all of the Protestants I have talked to throughout my life also feel the same. Faith is just the beginning of the journey. The most important commandment of all is to love God with all of your heart, all of your mind, and all of your soul. And second is to love thy neighbor. If you have true faith and have been touched by the Holy Spirit, you will want to love others as God works through you and loves you. Much love to every one of every denomination and branch of Christianity(and all others of the world). Please don’t judge your brothers and sisters made in Christ’s image and likeness.
to mercymercy from Oliver Clark, but Bishop Barron is not a teacher of belief as the in uncertainty keeping or allowing of the inseparability and qualitative equality of thinking "mind" or soul and having faith "heart" (NIV Acts 4:32; RSV has "soul" for "mind").
The way I look at it, yes saved by faith in Jesus Christ but to perform the good works that God prepared for us to do beforehand. Must be done in love, I've tried out of duty and it hollows one out. Jesus said that He only did what He saw His Father in heaven doing. So, the Christian life is walking lock-step with God, prompted by the Holy Spirit, through faith and God's love within us. Still working on it after nearly 50 years, I know I've a way to go.
I would like to invite some prayers specifically for our Lutheran brothers and sisters, that someday soon we will nullify the divorce brought on by the arrogance and finite nature of people within both our histories.
How amazing to see all the positive comments in this column, God is working through Bishop Barron, bless him for moving mountains with his powerful teachings 🙏
You hit this right out of the ball park! Thank you for the clarity of this issue. You managed to do this in just 12 minutes for me! God bless you always.
Thank you. The holy spirit has graced me with faith in Jesus. My life belongs to Jesus. It has been a long road, though I understand now that the holy spirit stayed with me the all the time. Having been raised a Catholic, drifted away and then coming back to Jesus, my struggle is with eucharist teaching and the authority. Not sure if what kind of Christian I call myself today other than a child in Christ on the path with the holy spirit, seeking help to cleanse myself of sin to be accepted by God almighty when the time comes. This sermons resonance is very powerful. Thank you. God bless.
Amen. Bishop Barron. Regeneration/Faith is the starting point. Words of Christ John 15:5 "I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing." No doubt fruit here refers to the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Galatians 5:22-23 [22] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, [23] gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Even my sanctification is wholly dependent on the work of God the Holy Spirit and not by any meritorious work that I can claim as my own. With that said, my personal responsibility as a believer remains: That is to abide in the love of Christ and keep his commandments (John 15:10) to the end.
from Oliver Clark, "beautiful" as occult as hidden and incest connected as substitute mate for economic advantages of the family of Bishop Barron by tax exemption embezzlements and lower insurance cost by fraud with non-economic status inducements of "higher vocation" in church and society procreation gift roles falsely represented as identities in need of union (cf. Pope St Paul V1, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" completed by Pope Francis on or just after 10 June 2021 adding 'qualitatively equal').
YESSS!!! There was the FIRE of Fulton Sheen! I felt your passion in this, finally! CONVICTION. Thank you for your heart and passion Bishop, Throw yourself into the ring to evangelize the world! We need more brave defenders of Christ. You are very knowledgeable, a follower of Thomas Aquinas, and I see over the years, you are finding your grit in the TRUTH! IT HAS FOUND YOU in traction. Follow this, for this is the narrow footpath of the brilliant yet humble TRUE LOVERS OF OUR CREATOR AND SAVIOR. standing your ground shows courage for the rest of us laymen. GOD LOVE YOU & HAPPY EASTER ✝️ 🕊
Dear Bishop Barron , greetings and humble prayers from CA🙏🏽. As you said this complex subject for 500 years ….. you are not going to resolve it in 14 minutes 😃😃but This is The Best answer to comprehend and understand for ordinary Catholic listeners and followers like me . 🙏🏽 I am blessed to be alive in this era to listen to you 🙏🏽and praise God for the gift of you 🙏🏽 Stay blessed 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 🙌🙌
Thanks again for your spirit filled teaching. It reminds me that we have a great challenge in the church to clarify that the “Works Gospel” Has taken root in our church. And it offers us an easy and comfortable response to the very real challenge that Paul presents when he tells us in Romans 12: 2 that we cannot be conformed to this world. Witness how our culture has distorted the meaning of love. I pray that we can all join with Paul in proclaiming that we are crucified with Christ and we no longer live, but Christ lives in us
Let's begin with Sts. Terese and Faustina: it is all grace and mercy--for each and every human being; And we have to recognize both the Old and the New Testament as the total fulfillment of God; now, we are all born into different circumstances and we are all on a journey; we have different gifts and we are at different levels--of faith and resources; a poor man can be a better Christian than a rich man, even though he has fewer resources; a person who is completely immobilized, a quadriplegic or a person with mental deficits, can be a better Christian than a person with all of their physical/mental resources: why? God is the word, and people can be kind at many levels; a person in bed all day can pray more than a person at work; it depends on what you do with what you are given, as well as your faith and who you are; where did you start in life? and where did you end up? not economically--but as someone who cared about others and about Christ--did you talk a good game? or did you really live it? what did you do with what God gave you? did you give it all? or did you hold back? how much did you live for yourself? or how much did you live for others? why? because that is who you are in your heart...that is what you are--for eternity...for ever...and ever...whether it is your faith or your works is just splitting hairs--who are you--really? really? you are going to have to answer that question some day on the other side...we all will...dts/usa
The points you made Bishop Barron are like you scored a goal in soccer. Nothing can be added or taken away. It was powerful! I love your reasoning which is a combination of faith and reason. Praying for you… 🙏✝️
Thank you God for Bishop Barron and his way with words. Every week he gives me a new thought to ponder. This week: how can my faith express itself in startling love? What a beautiful way to describe love ! Thank you Bishop Barron!
So it’s not faith alone then. It’s by faith and works. Protestants say works come with faith so that means it’s through faith and works. And also in the parable about God separating the people for the ones who fed the huger and did works entered his kingdom and the ones who didn’t were damned. The Bible clearly shows that it’s through faith and works because faith without works is dead.
Bishop, thank you for this. I am a Protestant pastor who has discover the truth of the Catholic Church and Faith through wonderfull Catholic teachers and people such as yourself. Now I am on my journey Home, out of Protestantism. It makes me sad and missereble when I think how many times as a pastor I preached untrue protestant dogmas to my congregation - espesialy on this issue of so called sola fide. May God have mercy on me. Thank you again Bishop for all the work you and the people of Word on Fire do. May God bless and keep you all.
At the end of the day being protestant or being catholic is not the core issue, it is Christ in you, the hope of glory that is the core issue. Christianity isn't a denomination or dare I say even a 'religion' in the traditional sense. It is declaration of God intervening and ultimately coming down to save humanity. Whether you are a Catholic or Protestant is such a smaller issue.
Amazing! 🥳
Welcome Home, Jacob! If you haven't already, I suggest visiting The Coming Home Network with Marcus Grodi.
God bless you 🙏
"From faith to faith"! An ever growing faith that is transformed by love can not be devoid of the good works God has prepared for us beforehand (Ep 2:10). Hence, a "lively faith in works of love"
Our quest for God is never spent in vain. You have humbled me and moved me one notch up. Thank you and God bless!
I’m converting to Catholicism.
I am praying about converting to the Catholic Church. Please pray for me because I also remember the verse that Jesus said. “ by their fruits, you will know them.” you can’t just say I excepted Jesus and not do anything to show for it.
That's fully in accord with the teaching that we're justified through faith alone. I believe as Luther did, and hold that faith always produces good works otherwise it's not true faith. The point is good works don't save a person because our works are always imperfect and incapable of making us righteous before God. Only faith which receives Christ's righteousness makes us righteous and saved in God's eyes.
Converting? How will it help? Rather try to change the conceptual issues in your faith. That's what Christ can for. God bless
I converted when I realised The Catholic Church contains the fullness of Faith .Other churches are lacking , especially in relation to the Eucharist .
@@Edward-ng8ooWhy does the Bible say that “if we have faith as to move mountains but we do not have love, we are nothing?”
@@albaniancrusader01 The reason is because unless our faith results in us loving others it's a false faith. So if it was possible to be able to do by faith such amazing things as move mountains, this faith wouldn't save a person because it's necessary for faith to produce love in order for it to be saving faith. However the love that faith produces doesn't justify us (make us righteous before God) as only faith in Christ justifies us, which is prior to love and good works.
Romans 4:1-5 ESV - What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness
I was raised a "true-blue" protestant. I was, for a few years, a pastor. I experienced a revelation of the inadequacy of the salvation by grace through faith doctrine and tried to articulate its inadequacy, speaking to the necessity that we must go further, that grace through faith was the beginning but not the totality, that people were lost because they believed they had a forensic salvation and there was no corresponding "working out" or transformation. It came from my own sense, from my own certainty that I, myself, could not consider myself saved without the concrete reality of genuine transformation growing in Christlikeness in-forming me. When I sought to urge those in my congregations and life to "walk in this path" I was rather unceremoniously removed from office and family. Thank you Bishop Barron for speaking so well to this issue.
I'm sorry you've been astranged from family and friends. Peace be with you.
Good for you brother. The Holy Spirit has revealed to you the fullness of Truth.
God bless you for speaking the truth, & the truth as spoken by Christ is often rejected by men, even by those who profess to be Christians. No wonder Jesus had said, 'Woe to you if men speak well of you!'. Pastors who speak on the need to imitate Jesus, to strive to 'be perfect, as Your Heavenly Father is perfect' (Matt 5:48) will be unpopular among the congregation, so I feel sorry for protestant pastors, & I understand why many preach 'prosperity gospels'!
😮😢No wonder Jesus had said "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord' will enter the Kingdom of heaven" (Matt 7:21). Have faith, & let it produce the fruits of righteousness & good works; & remember it is God's opinion of us which matters, not men's opinion!
Amen and may our Savior assume you into heaven for your spoken truth. We wish they would have listened. Come home to Him and walk the single road to Christ
God bless you Peter for having the courage to truly follow what the Holy Spirit tells all of us. Not many have the courage to listen.
I'm not Catholic, but Bishop Barron is spot on.
May I ask then, what stands between your becoming catholic?
He is using the excellency of speech and enticing words of man's wisdom of men causing you to believe a lie.
2 Peter 2:17-19 (KJV)
17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
1 Corinthians 2:1-5 (KJV)
1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5 that your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
This is pure philosophy what this catholic priest is saying.
Colossians 2:8 (KJV)
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
If it says it's not of works then it is not of works.
Ephesians 2:8-10
Authorized (King James) Version
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
@@hatoffnickelNot sure about this commenter. But for me, papal infallibility & primacy, mortal/venial sin, and thus purgatory, and the OT canon including books that were not historically considered to be canon neither by early jews or early christians. I would so love to be a Catholic but I simply feel I cannot accept these inaccuracies. I’m even okay with the Marian dogmas & communion of saints. But these 3 issues seem to tear apart the message of the gospel.
I am a Catholic and I think he is the best there is to spread the word of GOD.. MAY GOD BLESS HIM ALWAYS....
@@Flame1500 As I am reading through and reviewing today's sermon on how to show grace there are always going to challenges, but in the end, Jesus Christ founded the Chruch the Catholic Church, Universal Church. Once Jesus Christ said 18“And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades shall not overpower it. Mt 16:18. That is the primacy and as Peter carries on what Jesus built there in is the connection. Are there Popes that have made human mistakes of course but the guidance is what the Primacy comes from.
I am an agnostic atheist who grew up as a Protestant Christian. I am now in my mid 30s and Bishop Barron is one of the few people who I have witnessed has treated this with depth and seriousness, and as I grow older, my respect for this man only gets deeper.
I’m catholic. But his sermons clear up many questions I have. A rebirth of sorts. But he and other great theologians have helped me tremendously. You and continue to grow in our faith
I am so happy to hear that he really is the best !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!in my humble opinion...............
I sure do. And I appreciate him quoting his sources cause I read them myself.
@weaponofchoice-tc7qs, you explained perfectly what the reformers did. I call their gross simplification of the faith dime store theology.
Bishop Barron is great. He’s just good at communicating the great Catholic theological and intellectual tradition. So many misconceptions about Catholicism out there but for those who take the time to learn the Catholic positions it starts making a lot of sense.
The bishop has me about to convert to catholicism. ❤
God is good! ❤
I’m just not sure if all Catholics have a hard time reading. The explanation is inverse 46. If you’re righteous before God, then he will count your good works for you. They didn’t earn any salvation, but he will say good job and give you a blessing for it. That’s why each group says when do we do that to you? And even though weren’t aware of their works only those .
But God will commend the work of the righteous . And not commend the work of the unrighteous.
Many wicked people donate to charities, many wicked people, support programs that help those in jail . Even evil people people can get good gifts.
Only those who are righteous, only their works, will count for them . And the good works of the unrighteous will not count for them.
Surprised Bishop couldn’t figure that out or didn’t know that
@@JC_Forum_of_ChristI don't think what you're saying particularly finds error in what Bishop Barron said about "Faith acting through love". the wicked person who occasionally does good things presumably does not have faith.
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The bishop says only those that show works get saved.
And that simply isn’t true .
The job did not send against God . What made Joe saved? Because Jobe can exclaim the middle of this trial faith in Christ.
Job 19:25 I know my Redeemer lives.
Jesus is merely warning that only the righteous is good acts will be counted for them .
But it’s only their faith in Christ that redeems them and that’s what already makes them she . Works do nothing. If you are saved and you don’t show good works then that means you’re not saved. It’s pretty simple.
Stupid idiot read your bible first
This is perhaps his finest summation of the essence of Christian dogmatic theology - Augustine, Ambrose and, yes, Moltmann would be proud 🥹
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works so that no one may boast.”-Ephesians 2:8-9
Keep reading the following verses.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for GOOD WORKS, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. - Ephesians 2:10
Yes, after Paul makes it abundantly clear that no one is saved BY their works he goes on to say that the person saved by faith alone is saved FOR works (or put another way, the grounds of salvation is faith alone, but the purpose of salvation is for works). He did not in any of the following verses contradict his previous statement. Works are the evidence of genuine faith, but as Paul declared emphatically, works are not the basis/means of salvation.
@@Pmk4943 ok sure, faith saves, but faith alone is dead
The devils also believe and tremble
This man really helped open my heart back up to Christ whereas Protestantism had me walking away. This man is a shepherd.
Yes he shepherds bovine excrement
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Have some fear Sir, God's searching eye is on all of us. He detests sin and wrongdoing.
@@tamsingeorge-ey1zd You are a very deep thinker.
God bless you brother
AMEN to that.......
As a protestant trained at a non denominational Christian University I completely agree with everything Bishop Barron taught today. It is true that some young Christians, both Protestant and Catholic, get caught up in this issue and get it wrong, but Bishop Barron is spot on in his teaching!!! The initial move to Christ is an act of faith for sure, but once you are saved you must cooperate with the Holy Spirit and your life must demonstrate the fruit of the spirit - love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, forbearance, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. James 2:18 could not be any clearer.
I think, the word is self denial not self control. Due Christ is living in you. Wouldn't it? I hope it is. ❤ Sabina
He’s right, “self control” is a fruit of the Spirit.
@tmvtbb00 do you mean for to be able to receive the sacrament of penance? ❤️ Sabina
sounds like superstitious beliefs to me..a,men
Personally, I'm pretty sure Catholic or Protestant is a false dichotomy. Of course, I have friends whose ancestors were persecuted by both sides because of they refused to fight for an earthly kingdom.
This is beautiful and concise. I have always enjoyed Bishop Barrons messages and podcast for the Clarity of Catholic positions that i previously did not understand.
Understandably, as Western Christians, we Protestants and Catholics are going to have some very real overlap here. In this mesage I found myself reaching for a while to find a distinction.
Fortunately The Bishop brought it up for me, Imputed Righteousness v. Infused (sorry if thats the wrong word) Righteousness. There is a sense, even that there is an indwelling righteousness that comes into a person when they accept Christ by faith. The faith should be active and living, it should not be a faith that is "alone." Faith that is true will display love and express itself in love. I don't think that I would disagree with the Catholic position on these things at all.
However, the distinction would come when it comes to my justification. My forensic righteousness, my declarative righteouss standing before God. The Reformed Protestant belief (as far as I understand it) would be my being declared "righteous" before God is an utterly free gift. My sanctification, my works of love that flow from this gift is a process that ebbs and flows, and by God's grace progresses, but it will never affect my righteous standing before God, because that is not based on those things, but only on the righteous work of Christ given to me by faith.
I state this not as a debate, but just to see of i can accurately summarize the differences of views. Hopefully I have a fuller and more right understanding. Some further questions I would have, is from a Catholic point of view, how do I know I have acted with enough works of love to know I have maintained, or progressed through Justification? That is one of the more classic questions that convinces me more of the imputed righteousness view.
I really really enjoy how the Bishop brings up the tension and complexity of Paul and the New Testament. I agree it is not always so straight forward. One area I would question him from Romans, is that it seems to me that Paul is looping righteousness by the Moral Law into that "not being justified by works of the Law" in that in the chapters previous he seemes to emphasize that all have fallen short of this law in describing Gentiles and Jews having the moral law within them, but no one accomplishing it. Ill have to go back and re-study that with some different lenses on to see if I can see what the Bishop sees.
If any Catholic has read through this long comment, please share some resources on your perspective on my questions or explain how maybe my questions are the wrong questions or thoughts. I have realized lately how the differences between Catholic and Protestant thought is extremely metaphysical. So I've been trying to pour over these things with an open mind and really trying to understand.
I recommend you read the book, Rome Sweet Home, by Professor Scott Hahn. This is an excellent resource. Scott Hahn was a protestant pastor for many years. He eventually converted to Catholicism. 😊
I've been working through the RCIA at my local Catholic Church this year. I spent thirty years moving all over primarily with the military. And usually I've just found a local protest non-denominational church to attend. I always thought ok, I got church covered. Let just read my bible and pray and I'm good with God. Well since moving to where I am now I am less than half a mile from a very large Catholic Church. After COVID I decided I needed to find a church and after looking around I decided I would go to the Catholic Church. Let me say WOW and what a blessing it is to be a member of the Catholic Church! It is truly a blessing and I feel as if everything is more authentic, everything has meaning and a profoud history to back it up. The protestant churches have NONE of that. Just loud music like your going to a concert and a "feel good" sermon. I love love love listening to your homilies Bishop Baron! And the Word on Fire Institute is fantastic. Thank you for what you do and your service to the rest of us lay people! God Bless you and all the clergy!
This ❤️ There is just so much to love about being a Catholic. The richness of the scripture, the history, the tradition, which stood the test of time. ❤️ God bless you on your journey with God!
When are you getting baptized? I mean for real?
@marcbloc1963 my mother had me baptized in the Catholic Church as an infant. But she stopped taking me to church when I was 5 or 6. Having not known that I was already baptized I got baptized again at 18 in a Protestant church.
I am not Catholic but this sermon is great and to the point.
Go to RCIA. Check it out for yourself
I'm a Protestant that once grew up Catholic. I love listening to this Bishop. He's very graceful in his teaching....as like a father that has a loving heart to heart with a child. I have great respect for him and I know he loves Jesus. That said, I do not agree with all that he says or what Rome teaches. But at least he is more gracious than a lot of Protestant pastors I know. I will say that if I do return to the Catholic church, it would be because of this Bishop. God bless him.
Weak Catholics become Protestants. Strong Protestants become Catholics.
Coming from the RC church most of my life, I have not learned justification by grace through faith until I converted two years ago as a born again Christian. It was a blessing because the Lord granted me so much desire to learn His Word & I must say how this explanation of Bishop Barron completely forgot that justification & sanctification cannot be discussed in isolation. They go hand in hand! We don’t invite the Lord in our lives but rather He sovereignly works in us. The Father draws us to Jesus, thus, regenerating us & renewing our minds. He alone is credited for our salvation. Our being united in Christ & the cross is the root but when Christ lives in you through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, you begin to be empowered to conform to Christ. Your good works become the fruits of the root. Because Christ’s love overwhelms your life, you grow in love with Him & therefore your obedience to Him intensifies. However, the vestiges of sin remains in us, thus, the process of sanctification happens because being a Christian is a daily struggle between the flesh & the Spirit.
The gift of salvation produces the fruit/good works/love but only after Christ had sovereignly work in our regeneration & saved us from the bondage of sin.
I would have appreciated this more if Bishop Barron referred and exegeted some more on the other texts of Paul and even expounded on James in relation to Paul’s explanation of justification.
God please continue to give me strength because I’m losing hope. As Christians it’s important to trust God no matter what we are going through. God is our only strength in this world. Like many other single parents things are tough on me. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m constantly struggling to provide for them and now that I’m home schooling them things are especially hard. I’m having trouble getting their school supplies. I’m overwhelmed. Father God hear my prayers. My faith in you is strong! Even as I constantly struggle to pay my rent. And I constantly struggle to provide groceries for my children. I trust you Lord! I’m keeping faith. Walking with faith is the most important thing us christian’s must do. That’s why love compassion and prayers are all we truly need. Please keep me and my boys in your prayers.
I will pray for you. I can also sense the alarm in you due to your circumstances. I have schizophrenia and boy do I not struggle. I have, however, chosen to accept everything with joy, knowing it is a trial I must accept for the process of my preparation for life eternal. Mother Theresa of Calcuta said to accept everything with joy, and after you meditate on it, it can change your life for the better too. Keep going, it won't be this hard always.
You seem to be doing just fine, you’ve got 5K subscribers and all your information in your bio for Pay Pal, and apparently posting these pious prayers in the comment sections of religious videos rakes in enough paying subscribers so that you’ve got a load of impersonators. Please don’t make our Father’s house a den of thieves whilst disguising it as a house of prayer. There will be a consequence. Even if your need is genuine, this manipulation is not the way to get it met. Talk to your pastor in private.
Prayers for you and your sins. Love from the Philippines.
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The council of Trent says, “faith is the beginning and root of our justification.” Apart from faith there is no salvation, but it’s not “faith alone” that saves us! Real faith must imitate Christ in works of Love. ❤️
Thanks for the conclusion.
Obviously you don’t understand the true intention of the Reformers, works do not save you, but when saved you perform “good works”.
@@NP-vk8de How do you know when you are “saved”? Do you judge yourself? Why does St. Paul says, “work out your salvation in fear and trembling”? If you are saved, and you have full assurance, why be afraid? If our works have no basis for our salvation, then why does St Paul say:
“ render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in-well doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are factious, and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury” (Romans 2: 6-8). I know your response, those who do not obey where never saved in the first place. Really? So, we have lost our freedom after our initial justification?
@@tmvtbb00 thanks for your response, but are you trying to pick a fight or lack knowledge of the scriptures? Romans 10:9, 13 are the litmus test for whether you are a real Christian. The Word clearly states that Jesus death on the cross completed the work of our redemption. Where the conundrum or misunderstanding occurs between Catholics and Lutherans is Catholics think they have to do good works or aid Jesus in His work of salvation, while Lutherans say we are justified by our faith in what Jesus did on the cross, BUT “good works” follow. Yes, yes, good works are absolutely necessary but with different motivation.
Hope this helps? Let’s bury the hatchet of animus between Catholics and Lutherans, Jesus is not pleased. Jesus is Lord!
@@NP-vk8deExcept that’s not at all what the Catholic belief is. Oremus Pro Invicem
I am protestant and agree that faith saves, but the faith that saves is not alone - it works. Faith, true faith, worketh by love. I agree with Bishop Barron that Luther and Protestantism in general puts an overemphasis on faith/grace to the degree that “easy believism” is the result. It’s sad to me that the protestant/catholic divide exists.
this brings to mind the parable of the rich man and the 3 servants with the talents, if we don’t go forth and work to multiply his talents, even what is freely given can be taken away.
Thank you. Although I had always held the view of faith working thru love, I had never connected it to the noted parable. Thanks again.
Very good example
Works is important….that’s why there are over 2 billion Christians today!
I am a Catholic convert to Catholicism from a Protestant denomination that never believed in “coming forward at one time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior” and then being baptized and, that’s it one and done. My denomination believed that your life had to literally change to reflect Christ’s forgiveness and love in your “new life in Christ”. I know it was much easier to understand the Catholic faith than some of my Baptist friends in RCIA. As a Protestant I never felt like I was “working for my salvation” but, that if I loved Our Lord truly my life would reflect it.
Thank you, Bishop Barron, for being a true voice for Our Lord and Our Faith in this day and age. Peace be with you ✞✞✞
Hi Teresaeliza.
I am not exactly sure what you believe, however, I would like to share what I believe mainstream Protestants (Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, etc.) believe in hopes of clarifying any misunderstandings regarding what Protestants believe. If you believe that you need to do something to earn salvation and eternal life, you most likely do not believe that Jesus' payment for your sins is not sufficient for you to be right with God and be declared righteous. The Apostle Paul wrote:
I do not wish to have any righteousness of my own based on the Law, but one that comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness given by God in response to faith.
(Philippians 3:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Once one has accepted Jesus' atonement for their sins, they are saved and have been declared righteous in the eyes of God, however, since we are still in the flesh, we will continue to sin, even though we do not wish to intentionally desire to sin. The flesh is weak.
Let's first take a look at what James wrote to determine whether James taught one gains eternal life by just believing Jesus died for their sins or whether one gains eternal life by believing and doing good works.
14 True Faith Is Proved by Works.[c] What good is it, my brethren, if someone claims to have faith but does not have good works? Can such faith save him? 15 [d]Suppose a brother or sister is naked and lacks his or her daily food. 16 If one of you says to such a person, “Go in peace; keep warm and eat well,” but does not take care of that person’s physical needs, what is the good of that? 17 In the same way, faith by itself is dead if it does not have works. 18 But perhaps someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith without works, and by works I will show you my faith. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well to assert that. But even the demons believe and tremble.
(James 2:14-19 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
James is saying in James 2:14-19 that if claims they have faith but does nothing to show it (good works), they are most likely not saved and do not really have faith to believe that Jesus died for their sins. If one is truly saved, one will want to do good. Many who believe that there is a God but do not fully believe that Jesus paid the penalty of their sins, attempt to be justified by their works. This is what the Apostle Peter wrote:
18 For you are aware that you were ransomed from your futile way of life inherited from your ancestors not with perishable things like silver or gold, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ,[j] a lamb without blemish or defect.
(1 Peter 18-19 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Ransomed (or redeemed) means that when Jesus died and shed His blood, He paid you everyone's sins, however, for one's sins to be atoned for, one must accept this gift (Ephesians 2:8: Romans 6:23). One who truly has faith and is truly saved will do good works (Ephesians 2:10; James 2:18). That is why James wrote:
"Show me your faith without works, and by works I will show you my faith" (James 2:18).
Just because one believes there is a God does not guarantee that one is saved and has eternal life, as James wrote: "You believe that there is one God. You do well to assert that. But even the demons believe and tremble" (James 2:19.)
Yes, Satan and the demons believe there is a God, however, they are not saved from eternal damnation (2 Thessalonians 1:9). In the same way, those who believe there is a God but do not believe that Jesus paid for all their sins, is not saved. Ephesians 2:8-9 states: '
"8 For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith. This has not come from you but from the gift of God. 9 It does not come from works, so that no one can boast."
(Ephesians 2:8-9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Once one has become saved by faith, one is to do good works, as the next verse states:
"10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for a life of good works that God had prepared for us to do." (Ephesians 2:10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Those who believe that Jesus died for their sins and have become saved are not at liberty to sin, for this would go against everything Jesus taught. The Apostle Paul wrote:
1 What then shall we say? Should we persist in sin in order that grace may abound? 2 Of course not! We have died to sin. How can we live in it any longer? ... 5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall also be united with him in his resurrection. 6 We know that our old[d] self was crucified with him, so that our sinful body might be destroyed and we might no longer be enslaved to sin. 7 For whoever has died has been freed from sin. 8 However, if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him.[e] 9 We know that Christ, once raised from the dead, will never die again. Death no longer has power over him. 10 When he died, he died to sin once and for all. However, the life he lives, he lives for God. 11 In the same way, you must regard yourselves as being dead to sin and alive for God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore, do not allow sin to reign over your mortal body and make you obey its desires. 13 Nor should you present any part of your body as an instrument for wickedness leading to sin. Rather, present yourselves to God as having been raised from death to life and the parts of your body to God as instruments for righteousness. 14 For sin is no longer to have any power over you, since you are not under the Law but under grace. (Romans 6:1-2, 5-14 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Philippians 3:9 states: "I do not wish to have any righteousness of my own based on the Law [of Moses], but one that comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness given by God in response to faith." (Philippians 3:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Do you believe one obtains eternal life by having faith and doing good works? If so, you most likely do not believe that Jesus' atonement for your sins is sufficient. The Apostle Paul wrote:
23 For all have sinned and thereby are deprived of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified by the gift of his grace that is given freely through the redemption in Christ Jesus. 25 God designated him to be a sacrifice of expiation* of sin through faith by the shedding of his blood because in his divine forbearance he allowed to be unpunished the sins previously committed. 26 He thus demonstrated his righteousness in the present time so that he might show himself to be just as the one who justifies anyone who has faith in Jesus. (Romans 3:23-26 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
* The word "expiration" is translated into English in this translation from the Greek word "hilastérion" which means "propitiatory." That is, "(a) a sin offering, by which the wrath of the deity shall be appeased; a means of propitiation, (b) the covering of the ark, which was sprinkled with the atoning blood on the Day of Atonement."
I believe one is saved by faith alone and I do good works because I am saved from God's wrath:
9 And so, now that we have been justified by Christ’s blood, how much more certainly will we be saved through him from divine retribution.[d] 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more certain it is that, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
(Romans 5:9-10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Do you believe that Jesus died for all your sins? If so, all your sins (past, present, and future) have been paid for. That is the Good News of the Gospel. That is why the Apostle John could write the following passages:
16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may attain eternal life. 17 “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe in him already stands condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God… 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not believe in the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God rests upon him.” [to believe also means to have faith in.] (John 3:16-18, 36 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
24 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever hears my words and believes in the one who sent me possesses eternal life. He will not come to judgment but has passed from death to life. (John 5:24 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 47 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. (John 6:47 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. (1 John 5:13 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
If these promises are not true, why were they includes in the Bible? It is true that there are many passages of Scripture that indicate that one is to do good works. Good works please God, however, good works will not save anyone's soul from eternal punishment in hell. Before Jesus died for our sins, the Hebrews were to obey the Law of Moses, however, once Jesus died for our sins, we are to live by faith and not by the Law (Romans 3:20; 3:28; Galatians 3:21-25, etc.)
If one is saved by doing good works, how many good works must one do to obtain eternal life? Remember, no one will be able to boast about being saved and having eternal life, as the Apostle Paul wrote:
9 It [salvation - see verse 8] does not come from works, so that no one can boast. (Ephesians 2:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
I would welcome your response.
Al
As a protestant I could not agree more!
Come home friend
James 2:26 For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.
Well exactly. But still it is only faith that saves (' For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith' Eph 2:8).
There's a saying that it is faith alone that saves - but not a faith that is alone. Works will come if faith is real. Like if you plant an orange tree and water it, you will get fruit.
Amen
@@daviddrysdale6744 I've noticed Protestants like to quote Ephesians 2:8,9 (we are saved by faith through grace, not works, lest anyone should boast), but they often ignore the next verse ie Ephesians 2:10 (we are created by God to do good works)!
@@RosalindTohno one is denying that. Amen to that
Hi@@RosalindToh
Yes, Ephesians 2:8-9 is a good passage as it explains that salvation is given by God's grace, not by our efforts to become righteous.
This is what this passage says:
"8 For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith. This has not come from you but from the gift of God. 9 It does not come from works, so that no one can boast."
(Ephesians 2:8-9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Once one has become saved by faith, one is to do good works, as the next verse states:
"10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for a life of good works that God had prepared for us to do."
(Ephesians 2:10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Do you believe one obtains eternal life by having faith and doing good works? Do you believe that Jesus' atonement for your sins? The Apostle Paul wrote:
23 For all have sinned and thereby are deprived of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified by the gift of his grace that is given freely through the redemption in Christ Jesus. 25 God designated him to be a sacrifice of expiation* of sin through faith by the shedding of his blood because in his divine forbearance he allowed to be unpunished the sins previously committed. 26 He thus demonstrated his righteousness in the present time so that he might show himself to be just as the one who justifies anyone who has faith in Jesus.
(Romans 3:23-26 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
* The word "expiration" is translated into English in this translation from the Greek word "hilastérion" which means "propitiatory." That is, "(a) a sin offering, by which the wrath of the deity shall be appeased; a means of propitiation, (b) the covering of the ark, which was sprinkled with the atoning blood on the Day of Atonement."
I believe one is saved by faith alone and I do good works because I am saved from God's wrath:
8 Thus, God proved his love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us. 9 And so, now that we have been justified by Christ’s blood, how much more certainly will we be saved through him from divine retribution.[d] 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more certain it is that, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
(Romans 5:8-10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Do you believe that Jesus died for all your sins? If so, all your sins (past, present, and future) have been paid for. That is the Good News of the Gospel. That is how the Apostle John could write the following passages:
16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may attain eternal life. 17 “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe in him already stands condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God… 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not believe in the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God rests upon him.” [to believe also means to have faith in.] (John 3:16-18, 36 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
24 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever hears my words and believes in the one who sent me possesses eternal life. He will not come to judgment but has passed from death to life. (John 5:24 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 47 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. (John 6:47 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. (1 John 5:13 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
If these promises are not true, why were they includes in the Bible? It is true that there are many passages of Scripture that indicate that one is to do good works. Good works please God, however, good works will not save anyone's soul from eternal punishment in hell. Before Jesus died for our sins, the Hebrews were to obey the Law of Moses, however, once Jesus died for our sins, we are to live by faith and not by the Law (Romans 3:20; 3:28; Galatians 3:21-25, etc.)
If one is saved by doing good works, how many good works must one do to obtain eternal life. Remember, no one will be able to boast about being saved and having eternal life, as the Apostle Paul wrote:
9 It [salvation - see verse 8] does not come from works, so that no one can boast. (Ephesians 2:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
I would welcome your response.
Al
As a Catholic, I am proud of the Catholic teachings.
Thanks Bishop.
Barron for pope!
Great idea!!!!
Amen!
How old is he currently
The trads would hate him, like they hate Pope Francis
Pray for our leaders, in whom who we love
@@generalyousif3640 no worries. They will survive.
Bishop Barron is God's gift to us. Gods abundant blessings upon him and his work
I agree, imagine being called by God.
Yes..there have been hundreds of gods over the years..just wishful thinking I suggest..amen
Truly, you are absolutely right
TRUE belief comes with it actionable results. The divide here is perception. RC's say we are saved by grace through faith but then forget true saving faith has actions. Non Catholics who know the bible and are truly redeemed know that actionable faith is of the spirit, not human will.
RCC says "ok you are catholic, saved by grace, now you MUST COOPERATE with that grace by actions of will"
Bible trusting believers redeemed and indwelt by the spirit says "I am saved by Grace THROUGH faith not of my self. My faith is also not of me. My works are Gods works not my works. He works in and through me rather than me working in and through him."
For example:
Galatians 5:19
"Now the works of the flesh are evident......"
Galatians 5:22
"But the fruit of the Spirit is....."
One is works on our own accord, the other is action produced not of the flesh or our nature but of the spirit ALONE. Thats the key here.
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Back up abit, Notice the difference here...
Galatians 5:4
You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.
Galatians 5:5
For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness.
Grace applies to unredeemed AND redeemed. But notice what is absent for those that fall? !!!! FAITH !!!! Grace THORUGH Faith is True salvation. But Grace is applied even to the unredeemed or else they would suffer release to a debased mind as Romans 1 says.
OSAS is false. OSAS is someone claiming GRACE without legitimate faith and living how they want unrestricted by a sprite they never Possessed. They are the Seed that fell on the rock, sprung up and fell away fast without firm ROOT. Faith alone is TRUTH because Faith alone gives fruit from the spirit within. God is the worker of our works. Not us.
I am a Protestant living in South Korea. But I agree with Bishop Barron. I will emphasize the pursuit of grace and cooperation in it. I will emphasize the responsibility of my will. I will express my beliefs. And when I look back, I will confess that it was thanks to grace.
Read the Catechism. It will help you lot.
You are becoming Catholic, and you don't even know it.
Dear Bishop Barron, I am a Protestant, Methodist, and sat through some seminary classes. And, I completely agree with you. Thank you for the teaching.
I was raised in a deep trust Christian Protestant family. In 2004 I had some problems and anxiety. Went to a psychiatrist and a psychiatrist for 6 months. After a while I didn’t find any way than go deeper into Christianity and then I couldn’t see any other way than to convert to the Catholic Church and here I could find all the sacraments, more prayers etc. I became a Catholic very quickly already I December 16, 2005. That was definitely the right way for me.
Glad to know there still remain teachers in the church who are true to the moral teachings of God. God bless you Bishop!
"Faith expressing itself in love" - awesome summary of justification. May God bless Bishop Baron.
Exactly what Luther believed.
@@NP-vk8de Luther retained many of his Catholic beliefs; especially regarding Our Lady :)
@@NUKE.2024 Luther was more Catholic than people give him credit for. He didn’t want to leave the Roman church, just tweak or update some abuses in the Church. However, an inept hierarchy did not recognize what he was trying to get across. 😞
@@NP-vk8de The 'hierarchy' did recognize and correct some of the issues at the council of Trent. Interesting you seem to defend an anti-jew heretic radical who demanded a few books of the NT be abolished. I'll take Bishop Baron over any internet preacher.
@@Samura1313 so are you saying Luther was 💯% wrong and the RCC position 💯% correct?
So funny in a good way, when I see BB giving his sermon , it reminds me of a lawyer in closing arguments to a jury. It’s so neat, I know , my husband was a lawyer. Loving my BB…
God bless you and your husband! 🕊️🙏🏻
GOD bless you Bishop Barron...
Simply put, Old Testament law is about living a good earthly life. The New Testament gospel is about what we need to do in order to attain an everlasting life in heaven. ❤
This is by far the most clear explanation of justification by faith working through love that I have ever heard. This should be shown to all Christians in the entire world so they can understand the path to salvation.
Yes, yes we are saved by faith alone.😁
WE ARE SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH CHRIST ALONE. I am a catholic but I know all my works are dirty rags and meaningless to God. Christ gave us salvation not because of what we do or who we are but because Christ is who he is. Don’t be deceived and think your works help you get to heaven, it doesn’t and you will be told “flee from me I never knew you”
AMEN!!!
Turning away from sin is not works… faith transforms lives and without obeying God how can people claim salvation? But they do and a life of deliberate and repeated sin is not one who is saved… he will know them by their fruits… if you love me you will obey me.
Amen.
I think many protestants would actually agree with this. We can’t earn our way to God through our works, it’s His grace alone. But, the fruit of relationship with God is becoming more and more like him, deepening relationship and love expressed through action (works).
The distinction between faith and works is an unfortunate way of defining it as they’re two sides to the same coin when it comes to Christian faith…faith without works isn’t saving Christian faith.
There actually a guy in the comment who does agree
I'm in agreement with Luther, and he held that faith without works is dead. The point at issue though is do good works justify a person, and Paul clearly teaches they don't. Only faith which accepts Christ's righteousness justifies and renders us righteous in God's eyes. Our works, which are necessary as fruits of faith, are imperfect and incapable of justifying us.
Yes but that’s not quite what it says. There is a faith that can move mountains. But it is insufficient.
@@Jason-uq2hw Faith must be accompanied by love of course otherwise it isn't true faith. But love and good works don't assist in making us righteous (i.e. justified) before God because everything we do is imperfect and can't justify us in God's eyes. Only Christ's righteousness received through faith alone can justify and save us. Luther was correct in saying that we're justified through faith alone as this is what Paul teaches in his letters.
And do you find people with faith and not living that out - demonstrating with works? They are everywhere and most of those people are good, hard working people but their focus is on their own immediate needs. Sometimes putting your faith to work takes a little discomfort and inconvenience. Many people avoid that but those who dont and help bare other’s crosses are truly demonstrating faith and love. BB is a blessing for the Church.
Another thought ive heard is that the work of Christ isnt to merely cover up our fallen nature but to transform it. That transformative process of Christ manifests itself in many forms of love, the queen of all the virtues. By opening our hearts to Christ we allow him to transform us and glorify God.
Beautiful! ❤
Well said and if I may add that our Church is truly the Church of the Trans; Transfiguration, Transsubstiation, & Transcendence.
@@nelsonphilip4520And transformation :)
Agreed.
That is why it is necessary to cooperate with the grace freely given to us. We must let this grace work through us in our thoughts and deeds.
Thank you. You explain this so clearly.
"Faith, hope and love; and the greatest of these is love."
This is perhaps the most beautiful and important sermon I’ve heard from Bishop Barron. Thank you.
Hi Shamadan. I am glad that you are a religious person. The Bible is the best source for spiritual truth (2 Timothy 3:16). The Bible teaches that no one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Philippians 3:7-8). Instead, one becomes saved by their faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). Once one is saved, one is to do good works (Ephesians 2:10). Good works reflect what one believes. No one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Titus 3:4-7). If you believe that Jesus died for your sins (John 3:16-18, 36; 5:24; 6:47, etc.), then all your sins have been paid for and forgiven. That is the Good News. (See Romans 5:8 & 1 Peter 1:18-19.)
In the account recorded in Matthew 19:16-22, at first glance it appears that Jesus is telling the inquirer that one obtains eternal life by obeying the Ten Commandments (as outlined in Exodus 20:2-17 & Deuteronomy 5:6-21), some of which are mentioned in Matthew 19:16-22. Jesus, however, was attempting to teach the inquirer a lesson that the inquirer was not as perfect as he thought he was. The inquirer claimed that he always keeps the Ten Commandments (Matthew 19:20). Jesus then suggests that the inquirer sell everything he has and then follow Jesus (Matthew 19:21). Without Jesus belittling the inquirer, Jesus shows the inquirer that he was not as righteous as he thought he was. The Law teaches that those who have much are to share with the poor (Deuteronomy 15:7-11). The inquirer was reluctant to part with any of his possessions (Matthew 19:22). Jesus wanted the inquirer to trust in Jesus for life rather in trusting in his own riches. The account ends sadly, as the inquirer went away rather than doing as Jesus suggested (Matthew 19:22). The rich man lacked faith in Jesus, most likely, because he was trusting in his wealth rather than Jesus. The rich man proved to himself he was not so perfect as he thought. This incident is also recorded in Mark 10:17-22 (also see Luke 10:25-37).
Those who believe that Jesus died for their sins are to display their faith by what they do. James wrote: Regarding James 2:14-26, just because one believes there is a God is not sufficient for one to be saved and obtain eternal life (2:19). In James 2:21-22, James then uses the illustration of Abraham to show that one demonstrates their faith by what they do. In the next verse (v. 23) James explains that Abraham was declared righteous by God because Abraham believed God. James then states that a person is justified by their faith and displays this faith by what one does. Faith and works work together. God knows what one believes and this faith is demonstrated by what one does (v. 24).
The Apostle Paul also wrote about Abraham being declared righteous because of his faith in God (Romans 4:1-3). James and the Apostle Paul are not in a disagreement here. James is explaining in James 2 that one cannot claim to have eternal life by simply claiming they believe they have faith. One displays (to others) what they believe by what they do. The Apostle Paul is explaining that faith in God causes one to be declared righteous (Romans 4:3) in the eyes of God. In Philippians 3:4-8, the Apostle Paul explains what he thought of good works. The next verse (Philippians 3:9) the Apostle Paul wrote that our true righteousness does not come from anything we do. It comes from God (Philippians 3:9).
The Bishop was well-intentioned & appeared to have a heart for God but many of his assertions were incorrect.
Bishop Baron, words cannot express the gratitude I have for you. Beautiful to hear this well prepared homily. Christ is living in you!
Gratitude is a very small word for ALL that Bishop Barron is doing for the Religion of Catholicism. I am so happy to say I am a very proud Catholic....God Bless You Bishop Barron.....................
Hi Vernica Battles. The Bible is the best source for spiritual truth (2 Timothy 3:16). The Bible teaches that no one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Philippians 3:7-8). Instead, one becomes saved by their faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). Once one is saved, one is to do good works (Ephesians 2:10). Good works reflect what one believes. No one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Titus 3:4-7).
3 For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, and enslaved by various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy. We ourselves were hateful, and we hated one another. 4 But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5 not because of any righteous deeds on our part but because of his mercy, he saved us through the bath of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he lavished on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that we might be justified by his grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life.
(Titus 3:4-7 New Catholic Version)
If you believe that Jesus died for your sins (John 3:16-18, 36; 5:24; 6:47, etc.), then all your sins have been paid for and forgiven. That is the Good News. (See Romans 5:8 & 1 Peter 1:18-19.)
18 For you are aware that you were ransomed from your futile way of life inherited from your ancestors not with perishable things like silver or gold, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.
(1 Peter 1:18-19 New Catholic Bible)
In the account recorded in Matthew 19:16-22, at first glance it appears that Jesus is telling the inquirer that one obtains eternal life by obeying the Ten Commandments (as outlined in Exodus 20:2-17 & Deuteronomy 5:6-21), some of which are mentioned in Matthew 19:16-22. Jesus, however, was attempting to teach the inquirer a lesson that the inquirer was not as perfect as he thought he was. The inquirer claimed that he always keeps the Ten Commandments (Matthew 19:20). Jesus then suggests that the inquirer sell everything he has and then follow Jesus (Matthew 19:21). Without Jesus belittling the inquirer, Jesus shows the inquirer that he was not as righteous as he thought he was. The Law teaches that those who have much are to share with the poor (Deuteronomy 15:7-11). The inquirer was reluctant to part with any of his possessions (Matthew 19:22). Jesus wanted the inquirer to trust in Jesus for life rather in trusting in his own riches. The account ends sadly, as the inquirer went away rather than doing as Jesus suggested (Matthew 19:22). The rich man lacked faith in Jesus, most likely, because he was trusting in his wealth rather than Jesus. The rich man proved to himself he was not so perfect as he thought. This incident is also recorded in Mark 10:17-22 (also see Luke 10:25-37).
Those who believe that Jesus died for their sins are to display their faith by what they do. James wrote: Regarding James 2:14-26, just because one believes there is a God is not sufficient for one to be saved and obtain eternal life (2:19). In James 2:21-22, James then uses the illustration of Abraham to show that one demonstrates their faith by what they do. In the next verse (v. 23) James explains that Abraham was declared righteous by God because Abraham believed God. James then states that a person is justified by their faith and displays this faith by what one does. Faith and works work together. God knows what one believes and this faith is demonstrated by what one does (v. 24).
The Apostle Paul also wrote about Abraham being declared righteous because of his faith in God (Romans 4:1-3). James and the Apostle Paul are not in a disagreement here. James is explaining in James 2 that one cannot claim to have eternal life by simply claiming they believe they have faith. One displays (to others) what they believe by what they do.
The Apostle Paul is explaining that faith in God causes one to be declared righteous (Romans 4:3) in the eyes of God.
In Philippians 3:4-8, the Apostle Paul explains what he thought of good works. The next verse (Philippians 3:9), the Apostle Paul wrote that our true righteousness does not come from anything we do. It comes from God (Philippians 3:9). I pray that you will believe the Good News.
As a Lutheran of the Missouri Synod, I wholly agree with this homily. I think he clearly synthesized an argument that could lead to bringing some sides together.
Bishop Barron has said that God is Love. I agree. If I have faith in God, I have faith in Love. As a Protestant, having Faith is not a declaration or transaction. It is profound and trembles me, humbles me, and emboldens me. Works flows from the love we have with Christ and the Father. I don't do works because I have to, but because I want to; or the case could be made compelled because of love. Much like the thief on the Cross next to Jesus, when he declared his faith, his heart was filled with love. He could not do any works from then on, but he loved. Love gives me courage. Father Kolbe had courage because he loved.
This homily, almost makes our arguments a distinction without a difference.
Thank you for your post. A recent pope agreed with your closing sentiment. I once told a friend we aren't as far apart on this issue as it seems. I believe there is a very organic flow between Faith/Love/Works. God Bless You.
And thank you. I think there is more in common between High Protestants and Catholics then we have with Low Protestants (I do hate to use those divisive terms as it does not bring together the church). I grew saying the Nicene Creed and believe in the catholic church as universal. I am a five Solae kind of guy, but I think there could be room to agree more. And May God bless you as well. @@marywilson4486
Praise the Lord!!!
I had to train my mind to understand that faith isn't just believing in the presence of God but that it is also an action that we take because of belief in the presence of God being around us.
Can anyone love God and neighbour without good works? I don't think so! Faith AND good works!
‘Father Kolbe willingly volunteered to face a long and agonizing death by starvation, as punishment for a crime he didn’t commit, in order to save a stranger from that fate.’ (Auschwitz, 1941).
(gracewithducks).
faith expressed thru love, thank you Bishop Barron for that lesson on faith thru love. I had not heard that story of Maximilian Kolbe, a perfect example of faith thru love.❤✝️
So if a Muslim offered to die as Kolbe did, we would say that he has salvific faith?
@@pepeinno9336
Someone who wouldn't believe in an afterlife, in all probability will not make a gesture of that kind.
@@pepeinno9336a baptism by blood, perhaps?
Interesting question!
And of course peace to you and PRAISE Jesus!!!
One of the great things about Bishop Barron is that he is totally committed to a serious theological basis in all his preaching, particularly here, something I rarely get from the homilies at church.
Bishop Barron! You help me understand so much!! Thank you!!
I’ve listened a lot about justification in terms of the faith and works/will narrative. But the of faith and love is beautiful. It makes it all so much clearer. Thank you Father 🙏🏽
to AngelBien from Oliver Clark, Bishop Barron in his diseased 'familyist' family member identity is deliberately preying on psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their procreation gift roles in attempting to groom them with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic false status inducement of "a higher way of love" (time 51:34 of his You Tube podcast interview on 21 July 2022 with Lex Fridman on "Christianity and the Catholic Church") of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God to in error purport presuming inversion of their procreation gift role and identity in need of union for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlements and lower insurance cost by fraud.
Hi AngelBien. The Bible is the best source for spiritual truth (2 Timothy 3:16). The Bible teaches that no one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Philippians 3:7-8). Instead, one becomes saved by their faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). Once one is saved, one is to do good works (Ephesians 2:10). Good works reflect what one believes. No one can gain eternal life by doing good works (Titus 3:4-7). If you believe that Jesus died for your sins (John 3:16-18, 36; 5:24; 6:47, etc.), then all your sins have been paid for and forgiven. That is the Good News. (See Romans 5:8 & 1 Peter 1:18-19.)
In the account recorded in Matthew 19:16-22, at first glance it appears that Jesus is telling the inquirer that one obtains eternal life by obeying the Ten Commandments (as outlined in Exodus 20:2-17 & Deuteronomy 5:6-21), some of which are mentioned in Matthew 19:16-22. Jesus, however, was attempting to teach the inquirer a lesson that the inquirer was not as perfect as he thought he was. The inquirer claimed that he always keeps the Ten Commandments (Matthew 19:20). Jesus then suggests that the inquirer sell everything he has and then follow Jesus (Matthew 19:21). Without Jesus belittling the inquirer, Jesus shows the inquirer that he was not as righteous as he thought he was. The Law teaches that those who have much are to share with the poor (Deuteronomy 15:7-11). The inquirer was reluctant to part with any of his possessions (Matthew 19:22). Jesus wanted the inquirer to trust in Jesus for life rather in trusting in his own riches. The account ends sadly, as the inquirer went away rather than doing as Jesus suggested (Matthew 19:22). The rich man lacked faith in Jesus, most likely, because he was trusting in his wealth rather than Jesus. The rich man proved to himself he was not so perfect as he thought. This incident is also recorded in Mark 10:17-22 (also see Luke 10:25-37).
Those who believe that Jesus died for their sins are to display their faith by what they do. James wrote: Regarding James 2:14-26, just because one believes there is a God is not sufficient for one to be saved and obtain eternal life (2:19). In James 2:21-22, James then uses the illustration of Abraham to show that one demonstrates their faith by what they do. In the next verse (v. 23) James explains that Abraham was declared righteous by God because Abraham believed God. James then states that a person is justified by their faith and displays this faith by what one does. Faith and works work together. God knows what one believes and this faith is demonstrated by what one does (v. 24).
The Apostle Paul also wrote about Abraham being declared righteous because of his faith in God (Romans 4:1-3). James and the Apostle Paul are not in a disagreement here. James is explaining in James 2 that one cannot claim to have eternal life by simply claiming they believe they have faith. One displays (to others) what they believe by what they do. The Apostle Paul is explaining that faith in God causes one to be declared righteous (Romans 4:3) in the eyes of God.
In Philippians 3:4-8, the Apostle Paul explains what he thought of good works. The next verse (Philippians 3:9), the Apostle Paul wrote that our true righteousness does not come from anything we do. It comes from God (Philippians 3:9). I pray that you will believe the Good News!
AngelBien, just as Luther taught.😊
Is there a single commandment you can break while still claiming your faith is love? No. God’s commandments are a way to gauge whether or not we actually do love him and others. Don’t fall for the doublespeak.
@@joebolling “Merry Christmas”! 🎄
Works are an evidence of faith. "Show me your faith without your works and I will show you my faith by my works" says James. Anyone who claims to have faith but does not love others lies, their faith is not real. If I really believe, I will fill my life with Jesus and His power will transform my heart which will be seen in my works.
Protestant View: I think Bishop Barron did an amazing job, he is a very gifted speaker, shows a lot of grace. He really exudes Love and is very humble. I enjoyed it. I disagree a bit, but I still loved it. I do agree with much of what he said. I would put forth Ephesians 2:8-10, Paul's words, as the Bishop was putting forth St Paul's words: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." In my opinion, St Paul is clearly stating our Salvation is by Grace alone. HOWEVER, we are created in Christ Jesus to DO Good Works. As James, the Brother of Christ clearly stated in James 2:14-26 which ends with "so faith without deeds is dead." It appears to me that James is asking if the person WITHOUT "works" or "deeds" has TRUE Faith in the Lord. I think that is a very valid question, that only Christ knows the answer to in regards to a specific individual. As Bishop Barron put it, this is a very complex topic. But regardless we must all Believe in Christ Jesus and accept Him as our Savior. If we do that, I have a hard time understanding how Works would not follow regardless of doctrine.
I actually think this approach is something both Protestants and Catholics could get behind. Yes by faith, but a faith that is expressed through love and good works as Christ now lives in us. Amen!
Thanks Bishop Barron. Being Catholic is not easy, seems other religious traditions only practice part of the faith, that anything more is difficult and not necessary. As Catholics we have the full understanding of faith that Jesus Himself taught.
I’m afraid I disagree with that statement. You are lacking many truths that exist in Protestant denominations. You only have some understanding, not the full understanding.😢
@@NP-vk8de thanks…. honesty I’m not up to speed with the Protestant denominations…however I didn’t name any other denomination. The sacraments Eucharist and Confession are the biggest differences probably. Maybe saved by grace alone not works and grace ?
As cradle baptist now orthodox I will say brilliantly inspired wording father!
You are getting closer, but not there, yet
Now parents, specially Fathers in the family, we need, we must, we at to put these beautiful teaching in simple words for our children, Iive those words and show our kids what that love is . If we parents can pass this in to our children then our Catholic Church will have a brighter future and we will take from the hands of Satan these souls that walk away because they are not feed true Catholicism, it starts at home brothers and sisters! ❤❤❤
to ericksandi from Oliver Clark, Bishop Barron in his diseased 'familyist' family member identity is deliberately preying on psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their procreation gift roles in attempting to groom them with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic false status inducement of "a higher way of love" (time 51:34 of his You Tube podcast interview on 21 July 2022 with Lex Fridman on "Christianity and the Catholic Church") of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God to in error purport presuming inversion of their procreation gift role and identity in need of union for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlements and lower insurance cost by fraud.
Grateful for you words that “love is not a feeling or a sentiment, it is willing the good of the other.” In this way we are moving out of the ego and into the mind of Christ. This can only be done by the Grace of Christ living in us. Continued blessings on your proclamation of the Truth,
Sr. Brigid Cannon, OP
@@brigidcannon8130 Learning this definition of love for the very first time about 8-9 years ago from the then Fr. Barron was game-changer in my spiritual life. I owe this shepherd a great deal of gratitude for helping to save my confused soul from wandering away from the Church.
Sister please pray for me. I haven't had a job since this year and I surviving has been super difficult. It has prevented me from going to Mass even on days of obligation such as Sundays. Remember my aging parents, pray for good health. I do remember priests and religious people in my prayers when I happen to pray (I currently struggle with sloth).
Thank you Jesus❤
POPE BENEDICT XVI: “Jesus did not come to teach a philosophy, but to show the way, indeed, the path that leads to life. This path is love, which is the expression of true faith. If you love your neighbor with a pure and generous heart, it means you really know God. But if say you have faith but do not love your brother, then you are not a true believer. God does not dwell in you. As St. James writes: ‘Faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead’.
Psalms 62:12 Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.
I like others have studied this subject since my Seminary days at an Evangelical Protestant School. Bishop Barron has not only come to a very reasonable conclusion he has managed to defend his argument well and present it in a very palatable way for those who are not theologians. My dear friend asked me this question of me this very week and I gave him my answer which was a ditto of this. You are a light to all who listen and give great validity to our faith. If you enter into Bishop Barrons circles the question will no longer be "If I should believe" but how than shall I believe and work out this faith. Thanks for your brilliant message.
The most important video on TH-cam.
I have often wondered how some Protestants could declare they are saved by faith, that they could never lose their salvation, and not expect to live out the moral law. Jesus makes it very clear that there is a moral ‘law.’ I find that Protestants put more emphasis on St. Paul”a writings, take things out of context and disregard what Jesus has told us in the Gospels. Your explanation, Bishop Barrron, makes perfect sense. My hope would be that every Protestant listen to your sermon. God bless you!
I think you've misunderstood the protestant position. As someone who agrees with Luther I hold that one can't be saved unless one loves others and does good works, and that by doing this one fulfils the moral law. However at the same time we can't be justified by adherence to the moral law, as we're sinners as Paul teaches in Romans 3, and can only be justified (i.e. be righteous in God's sight) through faith alone.
Luther made the point that a good tree will produce good fruit, but that the good fruit doesn't make the tree good, because first of all the tree must be a good tree before it can produce good fruit. Likewise our love and good works don't make us good before God, as it's only faith alone in Christ which makes us justified before God. Christ has atoned for our sins and his righteousness is credited to us through faith alone, and this is what saves us, not our own deeds done in conformity with the moral law. Whatever we do is imperfect and tinged with sin and can't aid in justifying us. God is perfectly holy and only accepts the righteousness credited to us through faith as the means to justify and save us.
Yes, Jesus said "If you love me, you will keep my commandments". If we don't keep His commandments, then we don't love Jesus, and if we don't love Jesus, then we're not saved.
Hi M Avila,
Protestants do not believe that no one needs to obey the moral laws. Many of the moral laws mentioned in the Old Testament are also included in the New Testament (Romans 1:24-32; Romans 7:7; Romans 13:8-10; 1 Corinthians 5:11; Galatians 5:19-26; Ephesians 5:3-5; Colossians 3:5, etc.). Protestants believe that those who believe that Jesus died for their sins are not obligated to obey the ceremonial laws (Leviticus 23, etc.), as Jesus paid for our sins when He shed His blood. However, for one's sins to be atoned for (paid for) one must accept Jesus' sacrifice (Romans 5:8).
18 For you are aware that you were ransomed from your futile way of life inherited from your ancestors not with perishable things like silver or gold, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ,[j] a lamb without blemish or defect.
(1 Peter 18-19 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Ransomed (or redeemed) means that when Jesus died and shed His blood, He paid you everyone's sins, however, for one's sins to be atoned for, one must accept this gift (Ephesians 2:8: Romans 6:23).
One who truly has faith and is truly saved will do good works (Ephesians 2:10; James 2:18). That is why James wrote: "Show me your faith without works, and by works I will show you my faith" (James 2:18).
Just because one believes there is a God does not guarantee that one is saved and has eternal life, as James wrote: "You believe that there is one God. You do well to assert that. But even the demons believe and tremble" (James 2:19).
Yes, Satan and the demons believe there is a God, however, they are not saved from eternal damnation (2 Thessalonians 1:9). In the same way, those who believe there is a God but do not believe that Jesus paid for all their sins, are not saved.
Ephesians 2:8-9 states: "8 For it is by grace that you have been saved through faith. This has not come from you but from the gift of God. 9 It does not come from works, so that no one can boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Once one has become saved by faith, one is to do good works, as the next verse states: "10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for a life of good works that God had prepared for us to do."
(Ephesians 2:10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Philippians 3:9 states:
"I do not wish to have any righteousness of my own based on the Law [of Moses], but one that comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness given by God in response to faith."
(Philippians 3:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
You believe one obtains eternal life by having faith and doing good works. Apparently, you do not believe that Jesus atonement for your sins is sufficient.
The Apostle Paul wrote:
23 For all have sinned and thereby are deprived of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified by the gift of his grace that is given freely through the redemption in Christ Jesus. 25 God designated him to be a sacrifice of expiation* of sin through faith by the shedding of his blood because in his divine forbearance he allowed to be unpunished the sins previously committed. 26 He thus demonstrated his righteousness in the present time so that he might show himself to be just as the one who justifies anyone who has faith in Jesus.
(Romans 3:23-26 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation
* The word "expiration" is translated into English in this translation from the Greek word "hilastérion" which means "propitiatory." That is, "(a) a sin offering, by which the wrath of the deity shall be appeased; a means of propitiation, (b) the covering of the ark, which was sprinkled with the atoning blood on the Day of Atonement."
I believe one is saved by faith alone and I do good works because I am saved from God's wrath:
9 And so, now that we have been justified by Christ’s blood, how much more certainly will we be saved through him from divine retribution.[d] 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more certain it is that, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
(Romans 5:9-10 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
Do you believe that Jesus died for all your sins? If so, all your sins (past, present, and future) have been paid for. That is the Good News of the Gospel. That is how the Apostle John could write the following passages:
16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may attain eternal life. 17 “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe in him already stands condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God… 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not believe in the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God rests upon him.” [to believe also means to have faith in.] (John 3:16-18, 36 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 24 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever hears my words and believes in the one who sent me possesses eternal life. He will not come to judgment but has passed from death to life. (John 5:24 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation) 47 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. (John 6:47 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. (1 John 5:13 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
If these promises are not true, why were they includes in the Bible?
It is true that there are many passages of Scripture that indicate that one is to do good works. Good works please God, however, good works will not save anyone's soul from eternal punishment in hell.
Before Jesus died for our sins, the Hebrews were to obey the Law of Moses, however, once Jesus died for our sins, we are to live by faith and not by the Law (Romans 3:20; 3:28; Galatians 3:21-25, etc.)
If you have any other passages of Scripture that you believe supports your view that one is saved by faith and doing good works, please share these passages with me. It does not matter much what I believe. We must determine what the Bible teaches.
Patrick, if you know of any passages of Scripture that states that one is saved by doing good works, please share these passages with me. If one is saved by doing good works, how many good works must one do to obtain eternal life. Remember, no one will be able to boast about being saved and having eternal life, as the Apostle Paul wrote:
9 It [salvation - see verse 8] does not come from works, so that no one can boast.
(Ephesians 2:9 New Catholic Bible - NCB translation)
I would welcome your response.
Al
This gave me another perspective on,
"I am the vine, you are the branches."
Bardzo dziękuję, Bóg zapłać za te logiczne wyjaśnianie wersetów Pisma Świętego.
Przykładem "samarytańskiej Miłości" jest Polska rodzina Józefa i Wiktorii Ulmów. Jestem radosna ponieważ wczoraj byłam w Markowej na uroczystości Ich beatyfikacji -- serdecznie pozdrawiam - Maria
Salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone.
He is being deceitful and not telling the truth.
@@kenw772 Actually he is not, everything he said can be found in the Decrees from the Council of Trent (Session 6 January 1547) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church promulgated by Pope John Paul II in 1992.
Yep and if you are saved you turn away from sin because you love God and want to obey him… those who believe they can sin at will because Christ died for their salvation… miss entirely the will of God and Christ does not live in them 🙏🏻
@@palermotrapani9067 Neither is authoritative as they contradict scripture. When you do contradict scripture, you are calling God a liar.
Fr Barron, you are such a blessing to all people, protestants and Catholics. Thank You!!! Your message echoes the late Timothy Keller of Redeemer Presbyterian in NYC, who had immense respect for the Catholic Church and her people (the reason many Evangelicals did not like him). I love Jesus and I want to express that love, and my gratitude, toward you. May you and your ministry be richly blessed "beyond what we could ever ask or think!" Eph 3:20.
Don't need to even watch the video. We are saved through faith in Jesus Christ. Nothing else.
Thank you very much, Bishop. Two weeks ago when you didn't preach on Peter being the rock, I thought maybe you didn't want to stir up the stormy water...
This is much needed! Clear, simple, rigorous, and impactful. Thank You!
Wow....I thought as much and was wondering if he intentionally avoided it for this same reason
Thank you good morning
So much depth, so much devotion.. God bless you, Bishop.
so much made up nonsenses as well..don't forget that..amen
to@@johnpro2847 from Oliver Clark, Bishop Barron in his diseased 'familyist' family member identity is deliberately preying on psychologically and or emotionally vulnerable family members in their procreation gift roles in attempting to groom them with an occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute mate, non-economic false status inducement of "a higher way of love" (time 51:34 of his You Tube podcast interview on 21 July 2022 with Lex Fridman on "Christianity and the Catholic Church") of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God to in error purport presuming inversion of their procreation gift role and identity in need of union for economic advantage of his family by tax-exemption embezzlements and lower insurance cost by fraud.
Great message Bishop!
Protestant here, nothing taught here is in disagreement with anything I’ve been taught in Protestant churches throughout my life. Just my personal experience, I’m sure others could say otherwise. But all of the Protestants I have talked to throughout my life also feel the same.
Faith is just the beginning of the journey. The most important commandment of all is to love God with all of your heart, all of your mind, and all of your soul. And second is to love thy neighbor. If you have true faith and have been touched by the Holy Spirit, you will want to love others as God works through you and loves you.
Much love to every one of every denomination and branch of Christianity(and all others of the world). Please don’t judge your brothers and sisters made in Christ’s image and likeness.
Thank you Bishop you are the treasure of our church the best teacher of the faith to your generation!
With much love and respect🙏
to mercymercy from Oliver Clark, but Bishop Barron is not a teacher of belief as the in uncertainty keeping or allowing of the inseparability and qualitative equality of thinking "mind" or soul and having faith "heart" (NIV Acts 4:32; RSV has "soul" for "mind").
The way I look at it, yes saved by faith in Jesus Christ but to perform the good works that God prepared for us to do beforehand. Must be done in love, I've tried out of duty and it hollows one out. Jesus said that He only did what He saw His Father in heaven doing. So, the Christian life is walking lock-step with God, prompted by the Holy Spirit, through faith and God's love within us.
Still working on it after nearly 50 years, I know I've a way to go.
Faith “Allowing Christ to come to full flowering in you”. Alleluia. Amen 🙏
Thoroughly enjoyed this. Well said and God bless.
The content of this homily is what I have insisted and preached about time and time again. Thank you, Bishop Barron. You are a true man of God.
I would like to invite some prayers specifically for our Lutheran brothers and sisters, that someday soon we will nullify the divorce brought on by the arrogance and finite nature of people within both our histories.
Well said. Yes, prayers needed and I'll remember your intention for sure.
How amazing to see all the positive comments in this column, God is working through Bishop Barron, bless him for moving mountains with his powerful teachings 🙏
Many are called, but only few are chosen, only the elect from the foundation of the world
You hit this right out of the ball park! Thank you for the clarity of this issue. You managed to do this in just 12 minutes for me! God bless you always.
More bishops like this!
Thank you. The holy spirit has graced me with faith in Jesus. My life belongs to Jesus. It has been a long road, though I understand now that the holy spirit stayed with me the all the time.
Having been raised a Catholic, drifted away and then coming back to Jesus, my struggle is with eucharist teaching and the authority. Not sure if what kind of Christian I call myself today other than a child in Christ on the path with the holy spirit, seeking help to cleanse myself of sin to be accepted by God almighty when the time comes. This sermons resonance is very powerful. Thank you. God bless.
Amen. Bishop Barron. Regeneration/Faith is the starting point. Words of Christ John 15:5
"I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing." No doubt fruit here refers to the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Galatians 5:22-23 [22]
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, [23]
gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Even my sanctification is wholly dependent on the work of God the Holy Spirit and not by any meritorious work that I can claim as my own. With that said, my personal responsibility as a believer remains: That is to abide in the love of Christ and keep his commandments (John 15:10) to the end.
Amen, thank you Jesus for giving us bishop barron. 🙏
That was beautiful. I sent it to the family. Thank you God Bless you
Thank you Bishop Baron for that beautiful explanation.
from Oliver Clark, "beautiful" as occult as hidden and incest connected as substitute mate for economic advantages of the family of Bishop Barron by tax exemption embezzlements and lower insurance cost by fraud with non-economic status inducements of "higher vocation" in church and society procreation gift roles falsely represented as identities in need of union (cf. Pope St Paul V1, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968, 12: marriage has "Two inseparable aspects: union and procreation" completed by Pope Francis on or just after 10 June 2021 adding 'qualitatively equal').
We are saved by Grace through Faith, not of ourselves, it is a Free Gift of God , lest anyone boast.
Amen
Thank you Bishop. My prayer for you is that you continue to love and serve God all your days. And that you finish well.
YESSS!!!
There was the FIRE of Fulton Sheen!
I felt your passion in this, finally!
CONVICTION.
Thank you for your heart and passion Bishop,
Throw yourself into the ring to evangelize the world!
We need more brave defenders of Christ.
You are very knowledgeable, a follower of Thomas Aquinas, and I see over the years, you are finding your grit in the TRUTH!
IT HAS FOUND YOU in traction.
Follow this, for this is the narrow footpath of the brilliant yet humble TRUE LOVERS OF OUR CREATOR AND SAVIOR.
standing your ground shows courage for the rest of us laymen.
GOD LOVE YOU &
HAPPY EASTER ✝️ 🕊
Dear Bishop Barron ,
greetings and humble prayers from CA🙏🏽.
As you said this complex subject for 500 years ….. you are not going to resolve it in 14 minutes 😃😃but This is The Best answer to comprehend and understand for ordinary Catholic listeners and followers like me . 🙏🏽
I am blessed to be alive in this era to listen to you 🙏🏽and praise God for the gift of you 🙏🏽 Stay blessed 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 🙌🙌
Thank you, that was beautiful.
Thanks again for your spirit filled teaching. It reminds me that we have a great challenge in the church to clarify that the “Works Gospel” Has taken root in our church. And it offers us an easy and comfortable response to the very real challenge that Paul presents when he tells us in Romans 12: 2 that we cannot be conformed to this world. Witness how our culture has distorted the meaning of love. I pray that we can all join with Paul in proclaiming that we are crucified with Christ and we no longer live, but Christ lives in us
Let's begin with Sts. Terese and Faustina: it is all grace and mercy--for each and every human being; And we have to recognize both the Old and the New Testament as the total fulfillment of God; now, we are all born into different circumstances and we are all on a journey; we have different gifts and we are at different levels--of faith and resources; a poor man can be a better Christian than a rich man, even though he has fewer resources; a person who is completely immobilized, a quadriplegic or a person with mental deficits, can be a better Christian than a person with all of their physical/mental resources: why? God is the word, and people can be kind at many levels; a person in bed all day can pray more than a person at work; it depends on what you do with what you are given, as well as your faith and who you are; where did you start in life? and where did you end up? not economically--but as someone who cared about others and about Christ--did you talk a good game? or did you really live it? what did you do with what God gave you? did you give it all? or did you hold back? how much did you live for yourself? or how much did you live for others? why? because that is who you are in your heart...that is what you are--for eternity...for ever...and ever...whether it is your faith or your works is just splitting hairs--who are you--really? really? you are going to have to answer that question some day on the other side...we all will...dts/usa
One of your best sermons! Thank you dear Bishop.
It may be his best sermon, but is lacking in understanding and his biases in theology. Just another marketer.
Well said, as always Bishop Barron, for faith in our Lord and Saviour Jesus, the Christ, will lead us to exemplify that Faith by Love in Grace.
The points you made Bishop Barron are like you scored a goal in soccer. Nothing can be added or taken away. It was powerful! I love your reasoning which is a combination of faith and reason. Praying for you… 🙏✝️
Thanks so much from Guaymas, Sonora, México. "Más claro, ni el agua" = "Clearer, neither the water".
Water couldn't be clearer!!
Thank you God for Bishop Barron and his way with words. Every week he gives me a new thought to ponder. This week: how can my faith express itself in startling love? What a beautiful way to describe love ! Thank you Bishop Barron!
Faith saves, works produces fruit.
So it’s not faith alone then. It’s by faith and works. Protestants say works come with faith so that means it’s through faith and works. And also in the parable about God separating the people for the ones who fed the huger and did works entered his kingdom and the ones who didn’t were damned. The Bible clearly shows that it’s through faith and works because faith without works is dead.