I didn’t notice a ton of flaws in the show but one thing that drove me crazy was when Barry said he couldn’t run at Mach 2 when in a way earlier scene he’s shown moving faster then lightning, which if you do the math is moving at fucking Mach 351
@@jadeywhosshady3058 Right? Barry's that kind of idiot who put's all his points into STR because "muh damage" but ends up having all his attacks dodged due to the lack of accuracy.
Fun fact. In the comics central city is the safest place on earth because flash is the one protecting it. There's a comic where villains talk about cities of heroes and they all agreed to avoid central city because of the flash. It was kind of a joke from the writer to show how overpowered the flash actually is
yet in other comics they point out gotham is the scariest place for villians( it is ).. but we can all agree ( flash is actually an overpowered character fr )
@@midnightcoffee6463i feel like if someone actually had as much speed as comic flash does they would clean up the entire world. it would take like a week
@@kaz-l6fi wouldnt even say a week, maybe 2-3 days if hes really focused nd dont try to play with them. bro can run 13 trillion times the speed of light in the comics so he could probably clear out multiple cities within minutes
@@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770 Seeing how useless show Barry is no wonder show Thawne turned evil. The guy he'd idolised for years being an incompetent idiot who can't function without a team and an adopted sister who treats him like shit but he for some reason still has the hots for would piss him off.
I realized THC induced apathy was powerless against this cringy soap opera. I made it to The Flaspoint Paradox and had to stop for the sake of my fleeting sanity.
@@Jimmygarn same lmao. At that point Grant Gustin's good looks and deep sexy voice were simply not enough for me to put up with the level of shit the show has become
Glad it’s not just me wondering how on earth I thought this was decent way back when. Granted, I quit sometime in season 3 because I just lost interest in the CW/DC shows
Ill defend Barry in episode one, he was new to his powers, and not used to actually facing bad guys himself, he was a CSI. He probably just didn't have the mindset at the time to run down the bad guy, nor the experience with his powers to think of them it such a situation. After that though, it really makes no sense.
Every one second of Real time that passes, Barry gets almost 2 minutes to think (115 seconds assuming he can run 20mph without super speed which is generous). There is no excuse.
Even if u give him heavy benefit of the doubt and say his ultra fast reaction times wouldn't be enough to clear his head, the smoke guy literally just teleported out of the car before the window glass even broke. That entire scene was poorly done.
Here's the thing, Every human being (except Horror protagonist and flat-earthers) have some level of common sense, Barry's mind should've attacked Martin when the fog started to appear
Honestly, I could accept Barry constantly stopping to talk to his enemies, since he is so fast it shouldn't matter. Why not chat for a bit? It's not like they can do anything to him... the problem is that after the talk he just lets them attack him. Comparing it to a tun based RPG is a very good analogy to what this series feels like.
Or even better he could just relocate them to star labs and talk to them there. It would feel much more like interrogation and much less meeting with an old friend
There was the animated series of the justice league, I never watched it but I've seen clips from it and in one of them Barry tries to and succeeded in talking to a criminal that just needed to take his medicine or something. I think the talking could be totally justified if they made Barry's character try to convince them or something. Idk
@@jorge2555 Barry is normally pretty friendly and tries to help everyone (including helping talk down criminals if he can) that is true to cannon the issue is that 9 times out of 10 the writers don't know how to make anything interesting so he'll dodge a bullet touching his goddamn skin but then get hit by a punch, arrow, lightning, fire, or whatever other bs the writers feel are apparently fast enough to not only catch him off guard but also hit him before he can react to it. Edit: also would like to point out in many universes the rouge gallery for the flash actually carries a pretty large amount of respect for the flash to such a point that many try to avoid killing as a whole both of innocents and of other speedsters. Course in many newer works this is completely ignored as it both lowers the stakes and makes them fighting the flash and doing crimes as whole rather redundant, but there are still quite a few instances of the flash either working with his rouge gallery if one of them goes to far or them going out of their way not to kill him.
Not every season. When he lost his emotions in the episode "Think Fast", he used his brain. He ended up getting super thinking and just because he thought faster, he became a way better hero. But he gave it up because Iris was stupid as always.
@@cobrakaineverdies4888 I mean, it depends on the context. Is he phasing? If he isn't phasing, the vibrations can make a speedster's hand work like an electric or chain saw. That's the explanation given, anyway
Before I watched this video, I just thought he’s a hater of The Flash, but now watching it 18 minutes in, I gotta admit that everything he’s said so far is correct. Even though I love The Flash, there’s just so many things that don’t make ANY sense 😂
@@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256I have a feeling that people who are saying he is hating on flash are missing, that he is analyzing a TV show, not a hero as a concept. He is just saying that this company did a goofy ahh work portraying flash's powers in scenarios vs other humans and heroes. Just commenting a bad work done by this company, not commenting that flash does not make sense as a hero
@@bobjob140 The flash as a TV show with like 22 episodes is very dumb. It probably could work with like 5-6 episodes in a season without all filler bullshit and mostly fight other speedsters.
@@cris8627 how could it be a good idea? I’m sorry but super speed also gives you slow motion, super strength, go fast enough to fucking take the air out of a small area, time travel, speed force(could be used as a super prison for non speedsters), going through shit. Flash could be basically a god if he didn’t fuck around most of the time.
@@Chadius_Thundercock Just change the plot to make it more logical and interesting. Like for example when it comes to his fights with captain cold the writers could have made it so flash was losing his speed/energy before that so he's better of a match to him, like for example by reverse flash stealing his speed in secret by sneaking in some sort of device in his suit (pretty sure something similar happened in season 2), flash needing food because of his super metabolism etc. They also could have made it so captain cold's gun doesn't just slow flash down when it hits him but that it slows him down even if he's close to it. With the guy who could clone himself the writers could have made it so he had multiple clones of him throughout the city doing crime shit and a lot of them so it's more challenging for the flash, and with the toxic gas guy maybe make it so the exact moment before he is hit (even at super speed) his reflexes make him turn into that green gas again and so on.
Barry: “I am the fastest man alive.” Some random speedster from another dimension: “No, I am.” Barry: “Oh, fuck.” _5 seconds later_ Barry: “Never mind, I used the power of friendship and now I’m faster.” Some random speedster from another dimension: “Oh, fuck.” **Roll credits** I just wrote 5 fucking seasons of this shit.
More like 7 useless seasons of a show in actuality should never be made. If the Flash's power is, so OP, why in the world do the writers choose to make Barry look like an absolute imbecile, not beating his enemies in less than 5 minutes but takes an entire episode of 30 minutes or three to win? It makes you want to apply a hammer to your head as a sedative to get away from watching something so mind-numbingly stupid. Yet this is probably not just the Flash, but all superhero shows done by the CW. Where they had the power to end the threat in 5 minutes or less but choose to waste everyone's time, beating the person with methods they should have employed in the first encounter.
Captain Cold's typical approach in the comics isn't to immediately shoot Flash directly, it's to freeze over the environment so that Flash's speed works against him due to the reduced friction. Aided even further by his team ups with his sister Golden Glider who is a specialist in moving over ICE!
And how they gave an actual challenge or problem to the Flash without making them be as fast as him, people who while weaker, can cleverly use their powers, resources, and the environment together to pose a legitimate problem to The Flash, not CW's artificial fuckery.
@@pajwubx1809 Listen I've read only one flash comic featuring captain cold, "Flash: Ice and Flame" and in it, not only does the flash run completely normally in the ARCTIC, but he needs Captain colds help to take out Heatmonger. It was just as contrived
This is why it pisses me off when people say the mcu characters are “too nerfed” compered to their comic counterparts. Ya they’re too nerfed so shit like this doesn’t happen.
@@porassrivastava8242 still better than the cw, I actually watch this show and semi enjoy it to (I just dont take it seriously); but the marvel writers are at least semi competent and know how to make justified tension
@@mr.pistachio9970 plus mcu is pretty consistent with everything they wrote, powers don't fluctuate without any reason in mcu, they have op character without obvious weakness like captain marvel, their solution to allows conflict is getting rid of her from earth as galactic peace keeper so she can only come when the story needs her, like i said their writer is pretty competent...
Culture is literally changing and Media reflects that but Media is also the Cause, cause it's all symbiotic. For example, Quotes from the 12. Doctor: "Oh, the Mechanized Space-Suits malfunction and attack us? That's funny cause that means we're like Anyone-else Everywhere-else: We're fighting the Suit!" 12. Doctor:"What makes you feel so superior? It it the good House? But Human-Progress isnt measured by Industry, it's measured by looking at a Life. An unimportant Life... a life without privilege. 13. Doctor: "OMG, OMG, OMG, have you heard of Space-Amazon? Amazon is so epic, everyone who disagrees with that is a literal PIG. We should all stop criticizing Amazon forever." I kid you not, they said that. Holy Penguin, wtf. And yeah, Critical Drinker's massive Success with his 'Why modern movies s-ck'-video-SERIES speaks for itself. People DO want Quality back. I dont know how to help but with ONE thing: recommend you all hour-long, much-entertaining Criticism Essays, like Madvocate did with the Flash, Jay Exci did with Doctor Who and Hbomberguys whole channel basically, but especially RWBY. If we support that, we support ourselves.
@@loturzelrestaurant I wasn't referring to the culture. CW is a Soap Opera channel, not a superhero channel. They aren't remotely good at superhero stuff.
To be a little more fair this Version of Weather Wizard or Martin could have learnt to fly sooner. I watched half this Video now, It's pretty good. The Writers need to be much more better
Theory: Captain Cold is self aware of the world he lives in and knows that he’s invincible as long as he acts menacingly and calmly walks away from danger of being caught
I like how this could mostly be solved with one sentence from YJ 'If I take Arsenal, can you run Robin out of here?' 'No can do, fast, not strong.' - Bart Allen
I can’t wait for him to tear Season 5 a new -time- hole... Cicada walks away in practically every scene...in like 15-20 of the episodes 😵 and his acting is hands down the shittiest performance I’ve ever seen
the plot of every flash episode "stop this, we can find a way to help you!" "theses no helping me anymore!" "GUYS WHAT DO I DO HE'S TOO POWERFUL" "Run. Barry. Just Run. "IT WORKED!"
Barry: "I'm not fast enough I can't beat this guy." Team Flash: "Run Barry, Run." Barry: "Oh my god why didn't I think of that?" And then he proceeds to double his speed instantly.
Lmao thats fucking fucking fucking fuck ing ing fuck ing fu kn o a iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii funny
@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo 7 seasons later... They never evolved. The CGi is kinda cool tho (only the lightning)😂, but the surroundings of where Flash is running? Oh god... How come there are no cars (or few) and no pedestrians, and wow, he runs REALLY UNBELIEVABLY STRAIGHT (didn't show any obstacles to avoid)🤦🏽♂️.
@@xSENSEIxxPARKERx25 yea but what if berry knew he was op as heck but he just barely helps people he just do that for entertainment but if you think about it that’s makes a lot sense.
He literally the most powerful comic book hero ever. He supposed to be faster than time itself but for some reason cant out speed a villain whi ran away two seconds ago.
I would f**king love a power fantasy where The flash goes around beating everybody to a pulp without giving them chance to breath, that would be better than this s**t hole.
@@f4ishal996 The closes one to that is when batman/flash combine in the dark universe series. Where batman with flashes abilities literally ko' every villian in an instant.
In the comic he is so fast that he evacuated an entire city of 500k people AFTER a nuke goes off. The bomb literally explodes and in the time before the explosions hits anything he moves 500k people outside the range of the nuke it wasLess than a pico second. And the CW has him getting beat up by 4 normal guys? 🤣🤣
I honestly hate it when someone says a character is "faster than time" like what the fuck is that even supposed to mean? This is what happens when the writers try to desperately make a character impressive by increasing their powers to absurd levels, it started with "yo he's very fast" to "he can break the laws of physics and move multiple times faster than the speed of light to the point where he can stop time pretty much and time travel at will" of course when you reach to a point this stupid the only option for the encounters to have any meaning is to make the protagonist a complete dumbass moron because, if Flash had a single neuron more the series would have been over on the first episode
This show has no idea how fast lightning is! It's 270000 mph, and his TOP SPEED at the end of season 1 is mach 2. There is no way that Barry saves Wells in episode 7
Is there a possibility Thawne went into flash time and brought Barry in with him,then pretended to be still so that Barry could save him otherwise Thawne would give away the fact that he has speed. It is the only thing I can think of to defend this
Let's be fair, Any fictional conflict is manufactured conflict, CW is just garbage, always has been. It's not just their writing, watch the intro to 'Star Trek Enterprise'.
@@boblast5582 This video here is literally a 'The Flash Version' of Jay Excis Most Popular video: his hour-long Criticism of Modenr Doctor Who. And theres even a whole channel full of these: Hbomberguy, a guy who's specialized on this thing but he calls them 'Measured Responses'.
The solution is the Smallville solution. Make him slower, and end the series on him getting full speed. But this show was never made to be logically consistent so whatever.
@@tobsonasanya4765 except it wasn't good from a writing perspectice. It's only good when you compare it to other more shit. The point is that if they needed to nerf Flash, they should have found a better way to nerf him rather than just losing brain cells at convenient times.
@@angelreyes8714 I guess sometimes the villains used civlians as a distraction. I kinda excuse it since it is season 1 barry when he was a bit more careless
Killer frost should not have gotten away. YOU HAVE FUCKING SUPER SPEED!!! SHE IS POWER WALKING! I don't care if she froze you, you can still walk 1000x faster!
@@theflashcontent4847 very true There wouldn't be much of a "show" to watch But why show us that he can do that once and not let him do it again in moments where he could have really needed it?
@@theflashcontent4847 Well then maybe this show shouldn't be about Flash beating inessential third-class villains every episode. It should be like the Titans or Superman and Lois. They should focus on speedster villains like Thawne or Zoom. They are the only worthy villains when it comes to the Flash. Honestly, you think Flash is OP? Isn't Superman also OP (might even be more overpowered)? Yet Superman and Lois did it right. Why? That's the question CW should really think about.
Barry would function infinitely better as an anti-hero, like how Deadpool is op af but since he's bored he fucks around so the enemies actually have a chance.
@@Raccon_Detective. saitama is more of a satire of the genre. For sure The Flash could do the same but it's a very narrow view that's been explored before and I don't know if it can be more fleshed out.
I wouldn’t say Deadpool is OP simply because he isn’t the strongest, smartest or the most skilled. He just doesn’t care because he is effectively immortal.
"Flash, you need to go THIS FAST!" "But I've never gone THAT FAST before!" "Well, you've got to try!" **and then he goes that fast. repeat every episode**
Literally one of the worst shows ever. It was entertaining at first, but I used total supsension of disbelief other wise I couldn't have sat through the 2 first seasons. Than I just stopped.
At one point I watched all these videos a row. Now whenever someone mentions anything about the flash, I hear in my head "There's nowhere to run... Dadee daa daa!".
I feel like CW could’ve made gold if they made the flash a csi-centric show, with Barry having to solve crime scenes with his CSI skills, then dispatch the culprit as flash. Having the show be about flash solving crimes that occurred after the window of saving them has already closed makes more sense than him going to scenes of the crime as they’re being committed and doing nothing in return. Most episodes should be mental challenges to the hero, not physical. The only time challenges should become physical is when there’s enemies that can reasonably counter the flash’s powers. CW seems to forget that flash is Barry Allen, crime scene investigator first, and flash second. It’s why Batman values his work.
"don't care, create a better scenario where he does it" that's just so unbelievably true, incredible how the writers just couldn't get to that conclusion
like, suspension of disbelief is powerful, and i can do it so strongly, to the point where i enjoyed the first 2 seasons, i just didn't overthink it, but after that if you just have a brain it becomes jarring how much it sucks
@@Arixandrine with suspension of disbelief the thing has to be good think of rataole (i can't spell it so i doubled down rat chef movie) it's easy to snack something you dislike and if every five seconds you have to suspend your disbelief in new ways it gets jarring (like you said)
Like the first Weather Wizard dude, they could have had Barry break his leg in the car accident and thats why he couldnt do anything for those moments. Then in the Tornado have him floating in the Tornado because of the winds, So Barry couldnt just run at him and take him down. With the multiple Man or whatever. Have it when Barry is using his Super speed the electricity he gives off triggers the duplication powers. Like a reflex from the stimuli. So thats why Barry cant use his speed to hit him, plus it only increases his opponents.
@@dexnacorn7807 You could have googled rat chef movie ( just did so I know I ain't speaking giberish ) to see the movie name and copy it by hand or control c control v
Barry: This guy is so slow there's no way he's faster than me also Barry: gets beaten again Barry : CISCO WHAT DO I DO Cisco: this is the mega speed dampner it works almost never when its convenient Dampner: *Doesnt Work* Barry: Guys what do i do? Team Flash: Run faster than you've ever run before Flash: I've never gone that fast Flash: *Runs that fast*
Barry is too polite for his own good, always introducing himself and striking up a conversation before fighting (unless you're a regular crook with no special tech, then it's instant K.O)
Not only has this mad lad suffered through this season, he also did 2-4 and has confirmed he's watching 5 so we'll probably be getting coverage of that.
Speedsters are OP AF. This is a fact. If you want to write stories about them doing anything other than being awesomely OP, you need to either handicap them (emotionally, physically, with consequences, price for the power, whatever) or write antagonists that have equivalent powers, nullifying powers, or are so damn invulnerable that it causes a stalemate. Alternatively, do a little of both; the speedster can be vulnerable or compromised in some way and also have an antagonist that he doesn't want to fight or is ambivalent about fighting or who holds something over him or that can manipulate him competently. Something. Anything. No, anything *other* than making the speedster too stupid and incompetent to live.
Hmmm... What about this? The speedster in question knows how fucking OP he is and doesn't care enough about people aside from his close ones, he just does the hero thing for fun. He just knows he would end the fight and save the civilians on a blink, so he thinks "Meh... It wouldn't be that fun for me" (or the audience, if you wanna break the 4th wall) and you have him for example: playing a bit, or even letting the criminals get away a little or letting them have the guns 5 minutes more on purpose before knocking them out. (Idk if i explained myself correctly, its almost 5 AM here)
@@-KnightOfTheWind Interesting... that would tend to make him either a giant jerk (like Omni-Man) or an apathetic slacker (like One-Punch Man). Which actually has potential, but would require excellent writing.... on a CW show?
How about the speedster can only move at super speed, but not think at super speed. That way he can only move as fast as he can react or he needs to plan out all his actions beforehand. That is how super speed works in One Piece.
@@schwarzerritter5724 then as soon as he gets powers, he runs into a wall and dies. people brains aren't made for going mach-10 through a city center. the closest i could imagine was a temporary power up to super speed and being a human most of the time. that way you'd need a plan to avoid running out of time
This. ☝🏻 I had to stop watching when Sevetar showed up and my brain could not comprehend why the hell was I still watching it. Just every single episode was centered around being faster, or teaming up with someone else who is fast. Christ.
1 - thawne 2 - zoom 3 - savitar / it's also barry 4 - devoe / faster thinker 5 - a villan that sounds like a bug holding a dagger-shaped meta cuff 6 - modified blood & the literal photons 7 - girl with photons, forces, fake speedster with white suit what the fuck we're back with the same plots again
despite the fact he accidentally ran so fast that he time traveled, he is still able to run even faster without time traveling? Also his clothes only sometimes catch on fire
that was actualy funny and pretty on point yes, and not only for this show but for like at least half of the series, movies that exist, things happen or are let it happened because plots need it and thats it, there is no real and legit reasons why this could happen. But to be fair there is a lots of things where plot is ok, and in the flash ok there are clearly a lots of inconsistant things but, with speed powers anyway its just impossible to create plausible things for most situation. Doesnt mean it can be writtent better or at least in a more entertaining way but speed power is so strong that it can honestly just instant stop pretty much 90% of any situation that could happen. Only some personne have power that can have a sens in fight with a speedsters, obviously superman because he is fast but wayyyyy more strong, so he could just stand still and let flash break on him lol. Killerfrost actualy got a really strong power and in the serie they actualy shown how it works kinda, the fact taht her freezing ability is so strong that she can slow down mollecule, so actualy she can have a control over flash because she can slowdown his speed, we nearly could say at some point that they could be some king of opposite force, like one exite mollecules while other slow them. Many people with energy power, depending on hox it works could work against flash, like doing some energy field, or AOE blast and things like that. But overall those few cases pretty much anything else is insta "flash im gonna kill you, or your..." aaaaaand he is in jail, just needed the time to confirm he is a vilain and insta sonic punch him, KO, jail, bye
The biggest plot holes in the show is that they say “Barry can only run at 200 mph but also shows him casually dodging bullets going at least 1,300 mph while saving other people too”
I just realized how easy it would've been to make Captain Cold an actually threatening villain worthy of the kind of hype they give him in the show: have him be a trap master. Instead of just acting like his gun that shoots ice is somehow so much more dangerous than a gun that shoots bullets, they could have his gun have a lot more functions. Like, say, creating an aura of cold that slows down the Flash simply by entering it. Have him be an actually clever trapmaster who beats Flash by using his brain and creative strategies.
The multiplier guy could have been such an interesting enemy, and an actually good villain. Have him make clones before doing whatever he wants to do, rob banks or kill civvies, and then he could go all over the city, or even to a different city, and do things there. Imagine the flash having to run between cities to stop a villain, that'd be an actually good use of his powers, challenge him, and be really cool to watch.
@@mathiasffischer5987 In the finale he makes at least 50, he could have 10 crews of 5 at different locations, robbing banks, holding hostages, whatever. It's literally shown he can control that many duplicates in the ending.
In the comics snart has something called a cold field that if Barry runs through it he will slow down and snart would blast him this makes him a formidable opponent but they didn’t do it in the show
Man, superspeed is insanely difficult to write about compared to superstrength. At least Spiderman can be all "I have to hold back my strength so I don't accidentally liquify this mugger" but The Flash just has no excuse.
Did you purposely say spiderman cause spiderman doesn't really have to hold back when he can easily shoot webs at muggers. Superman on the other hand has to deal with controlling his strength or even the hulk. But yea, Flash doesn't have any excuse in terms of holding back.
@@natperXD Could be a mistake but comic book Spiderman actually does have super strength(granted things in comic books gets retconned all the time). IIRC when someone switches body with peter parker and becomes Spiderman, he accidentally killed a person or came close to killing. All because the fake Spiderman didn't realize how strong peter parker actually was and punched at full strength
Going through Flash's rogue's gallery, there not much else outside of speedsters that could pose a threat to him except for maybe the Shade and the Turtle.
@@gmork1090 someone on team flash every 3 minutes: "no, god, i- i just need to be alone and think about this." *storms off* someone else on team flash: "I'll go talk to them."
Bad guy: hits barry and knocks him on his ass for about 5 seconds and disappears barry, who can search the entire city in less than a minute: GUYS, he's gone!
Or when he runs someone to safety and comes back and says "Guys he's gone" Like first of all barry weve seen when you are in super speed every slows down, So its complete bullshit their not right where you left them even if its bullshit they can't be more than a block or 2 away
I hate that too! It's poorly written! I also hate that he never uses the power of surprise...always makes sure he confronts the villian before doing anything, therefore, giving the villian a chance to do something first and of course they always do! Stupid! Makes me irritated
Madvocate really just spawned into youtube, started throwing hands, winning every fight destroying what little positive legacy the flash tv show had, then disappeared into the wind
I feel like they could have avoided a lot of these inconsistencies if the Flash was incapable of moving people while in super speed without the risk of turning them into red mist
There's actually something called the speed force aura that protects him and the people and things he carries from being damaged. If you removed that he'd be breaking things and killing people accidentally all the time. It just wouldn't work especially for a superhero tv show.
Barry's personality is inconsistent as his powers. Almost every episode begins with Barry being a nice guy; Something bad happens; Barry becomes an arrogant prick; Someone kick his ass and humbles him; Barry goes back being nice and everyone forgives him.
@@hyperhigh3873 Just because it doesn't respect real life logic (physics wise) that doesn't mean it cannot have its very own separate internal logic and remain consistent to it.
I'm a big fan of The Flash's first few Seasons, and I was in the camp that Season 1 was awesome. I really liked Barry's personal story arc and his relationship with Thawne. I really love the scene in the finale when his future self motions for him not to save his mom, and against his wishes, he listens. No words were spoken, but the scene was enough for me to really feel something. Stuff like that is why I like Season 1. While this video didn't make me like it any less, I do agree with pretty much everything here. I think it's impossible to make a show about a Speedster without it either having an insane budget, or being an animation. And of course, good writing really comes into play. So I can excuse these for the first few seasons. But later on, especially Season 4+, I no longer can. It doesn't have the writing the previous ones did to make up for the absolutely baffling bullshit they pull to make enemies seem like a bigger threat than they really are. And it gets more and more frustrating as time goes on. But this video was solid. You've earned my sub. A lot of great editing in here, and solid points being made. I'm about to watch your Season 2 video now.
this is my favorite comment, actually easily explains Savitar existence and the reason Barry was able to understand his identity, because deep down all he wants is to play god .
Fun Fact: There's a comic that addresses how overpowered Barry is, where a bunch of villains share stories of why "We don't mess with the Flash's territory." Barry hunted a man through time and space to make him return a kid's lollipop, which mentally scarred his ego forever. Captain Cold apparently is God himself or something
Yeah, and now imaging a super fast, super strong hero with super vision/hearing/resistance, x-ray and laser vision, super breath and the ability to fly being defeated by an emo guy who puts rubbish on his belt and fight perturbed teenagers on the streets during the night.
@@milliondollarmistake I don't know, make him kind and compassionate so he holds back from using his full power. He is also immune to everything except for the material of the extremely rare (except everyone has it) remains of his own destroyed planet. Also he is weak to magic, but it doesn't matter, we know magic doesn't exist. And his most powerful ability is to hide his identity by just using glasses. But hey, I'm not a comic book writer, so don't ask me.
Every episode has a segment where a character sulks away out of the room(usually the main science room or some shit), then another character will take turn consoling the sulking character. EVERY GODDAMN EPISODE.
Agreed and even people with super durability aren’t going to be able to withstand him going Mach20, and punching them. It might break every bone in his arm, but he can heal from that.
I would ague every time he punches something at super speed the bones in his arm should splinter. “Basically” having super strength and actually having it are not the same, nothing about the flashes powers gives him super durability. Him punching someone at the speed of light would be like you punching someone at the speed of light. Both your fist and whatever you punched would basically explode. As for any time the flash moves someone at super speeds, they don’t have super speed, and should realistically have their neck snapped the second flash grabs them and runs away. Just the sheer speed at which they are accelerated would cause their internal organs to crash into their skeleton and turn to mush (aka whiplash times whatever the speed of light is)
having an entity rendering distance has it's pros: you can't get attacked by anything that isn't a meter of distance of you, the other thing is that you can't open containers (fun fact: chests and shulkers are entities, along with moving pistons and projectiles) the other is that you can see any living or moving thing.
Possible villains that might actually work: A riddler type guy that never shows himself and leaves bombs and traps around the city that require both brain and speed to disarm. A character that is too heavy to carry too star labs, and too strong and durable to knock out unless Barry goes harder than he ever has. They almost had this with the colossus rip off. They came so close. The lady that he can't touch without exploding, except he actually can't touch her without fucking exploding, and has to find a way to trap her. Snart but with enhanced reflexes so he can actually realistically have a chance to hit the flash, and ice traps that barry won't see as he runs. An invisible villain. Not so much someone he fights, as they are a harmless thief that he has trouble catching. Mean army man but he uses government science to turn himself into a temporary speedster. This technology would in turn periodically reappear throughout the series as a kind of antagonistic macguffin. A villain that can slow time, rendering the flash's speed useless and requiring him to rely on either his brain or just straight fist fighting.
Slowing time is a thing that makes no sense whatsoever tho. If youthink about it, it's about an interval, say, 5 seconds, take something like 10 seconds to happen. But if you think about it, that's just a change of time referential, as the moment is still passing, "slowing it" makes no sense (I know we're talking fiction here, but still, even the Speed Force takes some physics into account xD). Time is that thing that just makes no sense being manipulated in that sense, as it is just a flux that you can't really mess up with, only you can register moments with different units
@@Phoenax Fire Force uses physics to try and explain the crazy shit they do. Sho for example, has the ability to stop the thermal expansion of the universe within a certain area of himself, allowing him to slow time since he’s reducing the thermal, and thus kinetic energy of everything around him. That’s the most logical explanation of time stopping I’ve ever seen really. Since what Sho can do is “technically” possible irl. Very very hard and very costly and far beyond our capabilities for maybe a couple thousand years. But possible.
@@CallMeSaltyScorpion Well yeah, but, you'd just be slowing like, the universe, so, ofc it feels slower, but, even if you speed or slow things close to you, a second is a second, it's not some physical or spiritual or whatever is the nomenclature for it, if it exists, that changes cause of energy. It's not something that's imaginable controllable. For example, take one moment in time, and take another sometime after: time that passes between those moments, any way you look at it, the interval will always be, say, 5 seconds, cause it's something you cannot stretch out. 5 seconds are 5 seconds. It's that thing that is immutable (or at least feels that way). Now, it could make sense to slow something so much to the point that 5 seconds, in their referential, would be like 5 years to us. But then again, the difference there would just be the "relative time", cause the moment "intrinsic (idrk the word for it) size" wouldn't change. Kinda like how a Basket ball looks small to us but enormous to an ant. I don't know if I made sense, it's kinda hard to try and explain my point of view about something as complex xD
Other things to counter Flash could be : A smoke screened area. Literal silent hill Minecraft render distance tiny. Works best in a field with lots of boulders and twists and turns. A slippery or sticky fluid on an entire room. Anti-gravity trap that makes flash float. No ground = no run. Requires brain to get out Anti-speed equipment. Like a tool that activates when it detects an object moving in hyper speed, it then triggers some scientific bullshit rendering the flash to run at normal speed, or freeze him where he stands. A tool that gives the flash some latency and ping. Real life lag so he could have an excuse to his friends why he couldn't pick them up and relocate easily and why he trips, stumbles, and gets punched by normal speed punches and hits Black hole. Not even the speed of light can escape it. Bye bye flash. Hypnosis ability. Mind control Sleep ability Cumomancy - the ability to make your opponent cum uncontrollably at your command. Top that.
“My name is Barry Allen, I can run faster than the speed of light but next episode I can’t save my girlfriend because of a piece of glass that I can easily outrun.”
A lot of problems in the show could maybe have been solved if they expanded on something the show touched on: barry having a really fast metabolism. They could've made it where the more he uses his super speed, the more hungry he gets, to the point where he could starve if he goes too fast
@@_stupidbro I remember watching the show and was like “cool a weakness”. They had an entire episode dedicated to it, but it’s never mentioned ever again.
I don't know why they didn't use it like they did in Young Justice with Kid Flash, whenever he used his powers a lot and didn't eat for a while he got so much weaker, it's an interesting weakness and it would makes him feel not fucking invincible
Yeah but then they couldn’t have him go fast all the time and his enemies would constantly get away because he’d have to take breaks all the time and it’d be really frustrating for the viewe- oh, never mind.
@Christian Stewart well with the time thing at least it makes sense because the speed force will try to stop him. But the fact that he can go so fast that time essentially stops around him with no repercussions other than him getting tired after using for while is pointless because he never ever uses it again. Why can’t he just use it in short bursts and catch any villain just like that? It’s just stupid.
That’s the problem with giving a character super speed. People think “oh he’s just a fast guy.” Speedsters are basically gods with the way they can attack before you can even make a thought
bruh in season 4 he stopped time in season 6 he got fucked up by ultraviolet whose blasts are 'faster than him' and in season 7 he gets raped by godspeed clones who run at match 5 wich doesnt make fucking sense since he got the speed boost from the forces and anyways he still isnt 'fast enough' to fuck up some clones
@@sezo1d174 that’s exactly my point. At this point, only other speedsters should be able to fight Barry. However, even these Godspeed clones shouldn’t be fast enough to do so
@@nathansarfo1768 dude the writers of fucking show dont make sense sometimes literally they make him shit af like wtf man if hes not fast enough after all that shit that happened on season 4 that he unlocked his full speed he literally got fucked by devoe the guy who is the smartest they say barry can fast think and he cant fucking predict where hes going and how the fuck does zoom catch him in season 5 he literally destroyed him in season 2
My favorite is when they finally kill him off in a spinoff show but then they still want to use him so they just pluck an alternate him from an alternate earth whenever they want. WHY DID YOU KILL HIM OFF IN THE FIRST PLACE
Seeing this show from another person’s perspective really shows how the writers don’t understand super speed. The only way to enjoy the flash is to forget all of these faults.
@@Maybe_Victor they could have limited it by him getting tired and needing food more and if he runs while tired he damages his muscles.Tbh with such an op ability you either have to right it really well or give it a downside
@@applepi3943 i’m pretty sure people wouldn’t want to constantly see him eat every episode but the second part isn’t a bad idea. but only if it happens like every 7 episodes so it’s not like he’s just running out every week hurting himself
I think that’s the downside to making a tv show about a character like Flash. You can’t keep relying on something like a stamina limit to explain away why trouble prevails. He’s only really useable in movies (well that didn’t go too well) where that excuse might play into the immediate story. I get why CW/DC didn’t do a Batman show lmao…the excuses they’d have to come up with would be redundant to the character 😂
@@tobsonasanya4765 Dude.. I come back to rewatch the vid to see you still defending this show like 1-2 weeks later. Around 1k comments of you doing this shit-
I love how there's an entire episode dedicated to Barry's ability to break the sound barrier, yet he's consistently moving faster than the speed of light, and still lets his enemies get away lol
One crucial mistake you made: You assumed, that the writers start with the question "who is the bad guy and how do we catch him?" and then go from there. In reality they start with the question "how can we force as many _cool_ scenes and villains into one episode, without looking too desperate for approval?" and then go from there.
Back in my first year of college, I remember my seniors being super hyped about The Flash Season 3. These were people who usually didn't care about superhero stuff, so I thought, "This must be really good." I decided to give it a shot, but as soon as the villain with the freeze gun showed up, I was like, "Wait, The Flash is faster than a bullet-how are these regular dudes beating him with a freeze gun?" It made no sense to me. When I asked my seniors about it, they just said, "You can't expect realism in superhero shows." That answer didn’t sit right with me, so I dropped the show then and there. It's been years since, and honestly, I still feel like I made the right call.
@@evanf.4801 Indeed, and it would make some (note: not much) sense why he hits at normal speed. It does not explain why he doesn't dodge at super speed.
@@Username44555 superhuman/endurance is honestly a given when it comes to a lot of superheroes who have some sort of physical super power/ability that should have consequences to their own user. No speedster would be a speedster if they didn't have it. I mean. Just imagine it. The speedster runs max speed to punch a dude and then his arm (if not his whole body) is gone because he can't handle the own force generated by his own speed. Kinda silly, y'know?
I feel like an extremely easy way to resolve most inconsistencies would have been to make Barry's powers somewhat "burstier" in the show. For example, establish that every time he stops moving after using his powers, there is a short period of down time, just a couple of seconds, during which he is physically unable to move fast again. Additionally, the more he uses his speed in quick succession, the more of a toll it takes on his body until he stops to rest properly. That would essentially keep a lot of the show the same and allow time to exchange words with villains without it feeling forced (since Barry would have a logical reason to need to stop in place occasionally) while only requiring a little bit of rewriting to make his first attack fail and have the fight become more complicated from there, should he fail to apprehend someone fast enough. That way, he'll organically be forced to retreat and gather his strength every once in a while and think about what he did wrong the first time before coming back for a second round. It would also preserve the feeling of progress as with time and experience he learns to reduce the down time of his powers and occasionally creating that "wow!" moment where he runs faster and longer than ever before without stopping.
I loved this alternative. Setting up a "skill curve" for Flash to make active effort to keep his speed working up keeps it very flexible and is potentially very satisfying. There's only _one_ problem, and you already have mentioned it: _"Make the fight become more complicated from there"._ Yeah, that is... that is a _very_ difficult thing to do with a speedster character, nerfed or not.
I see people bringing up its hard to write a story with op super speed but its not. •Make a villain that’s not affected by flash super speed • make them unable for the flash to relocate, like someone made of fire, water, or something he cant grab on • make his no killing rule really stand out so we know why he holds back his punches and dont insta kill • only show him truly dominating fodder throw away villains like captain cold or any regular human • stop making him fight people who literally has no way of even seeing him move • make the villains use more hostage scenes where barry has to go around the city and save people • make the scale of villains bigger, these weak ass metas arent on the flash level, make him fight real aliens from the comics who actually pose a threat • stop with the 24 episodes seasons and shorten it down to 13 episodes, save that extra budget for better writing and cgi and up the fight scenes
Too bad that will never happen because it requires a lot of good writing and careful planning and since the writers of the CW are lazy and have no spark of creativity they would not be able to make those scenarios
that first one doesnt really make sense. super speed is a power that solely affects the user. they can use it to move people quickly or disarm them, but it still only affects the person using the speed. you cant make someone immune to something that doesnt affect them in the first place
"Make a villain that’s not affected by flash super speed" that isn't how speed works but I get what you mean and there is a villain like that. She is able to make the weight of what he is effecting with his speed (so things like his clothing or a person he is moving or even his own body) proportional to the speed he moves it at. Basically on a math level she is able to make W = mg into W = mv so suddenly the weight equation doesn't use a constant and isn't using acceleration. This situation forces him to only move in short bursts and requires more creative solutions.
Finally truth! I won’t lie, I watched this show and enjoyed it, but every time it pulled some bs like this I would be screaming internally and tell myself “don’t think too hard about it.” The most painful moments are when Barry gets hurt because the villain (or arrow) predicted where he would be, like this implies Barry saw the attack and then just willingly walked into it. It also annoys me when Barry gets hurt by sound-based attacks as though Barry can’t easily break the sound barrier in a footstep, which means he can move between the oscillating soundwaves; before you say “that might just be too far” they literally explain that he can vibrate fast enough to move through solid materials. Makes no sense
The worse thing the writers did in this show is tone down Cisco's jokes to the point of being non-existant. Probably because he was stealing the limelight from the Flash. He was the best character.
He basically is the most brilliant guy on earth. Want to make a tachyon based device? Cisco to the rescue. Want an elementary particle named after you? Cisco to the rescue. Want to see how you look in a parallel universe? Cisco to the rescue.
@@vaishnav_mallya What mattered to me is that he was funny and made this show worth watching. I was disappointed when they made him angry and depressed in a parallel universe, and after that it never really got back to normal. At least so far up to season 4, where I am currently at.
This goes to killer frost in season 3 where he moved someone out of the way of the blast but then a second later he stands still and let the blast hit him
it would be much better if in the beginning it showcases how absolutely fucking overpowered super speed is by catching every bad guy, and then make him go against harder challenges as the show goes on.
As a teen I was invested in trying to craft my own super-speed hero and one of the rules I came up with was they had to build up speed. Dodging a gunshot you just noticed in real-time while you were calmly standing still had low chances of succeeding. Also this made operating in tighter spaces like average hallways of a building or a single room limited.
@@dr.cheeze5382 that's still even the smaller stuff. 😅 I also had the rule that the "super speed" was a time warping effect that would cloak his body and any material he physically interacted with. This helped with certain scenarios where physics are important, such as: - Him reaching the speeds that would normally have serious external effects do not occur, such as sonic booms. - If he for whatever reason hit a wall or some other object while technically moving for instance at 100 km/h, the force he and the object would be affected by would only be that of what it would've been based on his natural speed without the time warp. - No matter how quickly he hit someone, the effect would only be that of his normal punch. This gave incentive to gain and sustain physical fitness. Though with enough speed, even average hits can overwhelm the best fighters. - He could not do the usual "HA! I simply grabbed your bullet out of the air"-trick or its like. The moment he in-super speed interacted with the bullet, his warp-cloak would affect it and the bullet's speed would adjust, most likely instantly tearing through whatever part of him touched it. So COMPLETELY avoiding projectiles was CRITICAL. Also what tempers all of this further is that your cognitive functions don't adjust equally. The levels of observation you'd have when running on a road compared to the same exertion plus warp-effect are not the same, a sort of tunnel vision forms and grows with the speed. So he should never attempt complicated tasks while in high super speeds.
Top from Undead Unluck is an interesting version of this. His power is to negate any forces that would slow him down, causing him to accelerate unstoppably until his “shape changes”, i.e. he breaks a bone. In fact, he is physically incapable of slowing down until this happens, able to change direction if he has something to kick off of but unable to lower his speed. To attack someone at lightspeed he basically had to have someone else distract the opponent while he ran all the way around the world to build up enough speed. And as to be expected, it utterly destroyed the target. Pretty fair example of superspeed with understandable drawbacks.
The show really needed to explain from the beginning that Barry had a limited stamina tied to his speedster powers. Like a huge hard cap where he could only go fast for a couple of minutes or in really short bursts and then would need to recharge for a day or more. Just something. Anything to explain the inconsistencies.
The limited stamina would still not explain any of the problems that I've seen in the video. "Normal dude with gun" and co, being an actual consistent threat being the most glaring example. The video even points out several instances where dude with gun could have been defeated, but Barry just chose not to. Although I haven't watched the show myself (and probably never will considering what I saw here), so I don't know if there is any real explanation for why Dude with Gun is a threat.
@@krishnansubramoni7801 Probably because he has a cold gun that can slow Barry down….which Barry can just steal it with his speed. In the comics from what I’m seeing Captain Cold does have a cold field that would slow down the Flash should the latter get close enough, but that’s never seen in the series.
Jojo's bizarre adventure actually does this. Jotaro has the ability to stop time, which would theoretically make him completely unbeatable. The reason he isn't is because it's established from the start that he can do so for only a few seconds at a time, meaning that smarter opponents can still work around this ability and hit him during his downtime. A pity the Flash doesn't have something like this though.
How to write Multiple man: Hidden main body. All fighting bodies are clones. The real body is multiplying somewhere else. Best option is in a mobile armored van close by. How to write Cold guy: Creates a field of active cold around himself causing frost and making Barry lose friction eating massive amounts of dirt. Frost is no joke. A zero friction speedster is useless. It's so simple!
Only seen this series through shorts I INSTANTLY agree with you In one clip he's faster than a bullet. In other, he's struggling to dodge rocks thrown at him
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Barry isn't fast everyone just moves really slow to fuck with him.
lmao
Wtf that's a good one
That would make more sense than the actual show lmao
Lol
This is my new head-canon. This is like the Trueman Show superhero edition
I didn’t notice a ton of flaws in the show but one thing that drove me crazy was when Barry said he couldn’t run at Mach 2 when in a way earlier scene he’s shown moving faster then lightning, which if you do the math is moving at fucking Mach 351
Ikr
*gEniUs*
Which lightning
@@tobsonasanya4765 there is 2 i remember.
Against that lightining vampire, and when he saved joe west from the lightning bolt inside their car.
@@thelastmlg2699 You mean electricity
“Barry waits like it’s a turn based rpg” the little scene after too was done perfectly
I agree it was so well done
That clip had me gone 😂
Way too long it was just annoying
He may have the fastest attacks but the lowest hit percentage
@@jadeywhosshady3058 Right? Barry's that kind of idiot who put's all his points into STR because "muh damage" but ends up having all his attacks dodged due to the lack of accuracy.
Fun fact. In the comics central city is the safest place on earth because flash is the one protecting it. There's a comic where villains talk about cities of heroes and they all agreed to avoid central city because of the flash. It was kind of a joke from the writer to show how overpowered the flash actually is
Then you have Flash jobbing in every other comic issue.
yet in other comics they point out gotham is the scariest place for villians( it is ).. but we can all agree ( flash is actually an overpowered character fr )
It's a shame the Flash never cared enough to clean out Gotham in a day.
@@midnightcoffee6463i feel like if someone actually had as much speed as comic flash does they would clean up the entire world. it would take like a week
@@kaz-l6fi wouldnt even say a week, maybe 2-3 days if hes really focused nd dont try to play with them. bro can run 13 trillion times the speed of light in the comics so he could probably clear out multiple cities within minutes
My head-canon is that every non-speedster that managed to run away was just carried off by Reverse Flash.
"IT WAS ME BARRY."
@@KS-db3we 😂😂😂😂☠️
@@KS-db3we I was the one who got all the baddies you could very easily capture and got them to safety. All so people would think your stupid.
@@kingbidoof7619 He would definitely do some shit like that.
@@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770 Seeing how useless show Barry is no wonder show Thawne turned evil. The guy he'd idolised for years being an incompetent idiot who can't function without a team and an adopted sister who treats him like shit but he for some reason still has the hots for would piss him off.
Every damn flash episode
“Guys i dont know if i can do this”
“Run, moron”
“omg guys you are right”
Nah
@Gumball Buds and Co. No running does not solve everything
@Gumball Buds and Co. Yeah but you need skills when you have speed lol besides I can kinda excuse season 1
@Gumball Buds and Co. He ain't dumb though but he does do dumb things
@@tobsonasanya4765 that's what being dumb means
I'm fully convinced that I turned my brain off to enjoy this show back in the day.
I realized THC induced apathy was powerless against this cringy soap opera. I made it to The Flaspoint Paradox and had to stop for the sake of my fleeting sanity.
@@Jimmygarn same lmao. At that point Grant Gustin's good looks and deep sexy voice were simply not enough for me to put up with the level of shit the show has become
Same here, dude
@@galaxywalker9863 same
Glad it’s not just me wondering how on earth I thought this was decent way back when. Granted, I quit sometime in season 3 because I just lost interest in the CW/DC shows
Ill defend Barry in episode one, he was new to his powers, and not used to actually facing bad guys himself, he was a CSI. He probably just didn't have the mindset at the time to run down the bad guy, nor the experience with his powers to think of them it such a situation. After that though, it really makes no sense.
Every one second of Real time that passes, Barry gets almost 2 minutes to think (115 seconds assuming he can run 20mph without super speed which is generous). There is no excuse.
He gets beat up by little girls. He's not the fastest man alive, hes the weakest
Even if u give him heavy benefit of the doubt and say his ultra fast reaction times wouldn't be enough to clear his head, the smoke guy literally just teleported out of the car before the window glass even broke. That entire scene was poorly done.
Here's the thing, Every human being (except Horror protagonist and flat-earthers) have some level of common sense, Barry's mind should've attacked Martin when the fog started to appear
When the Speed Force is active, @@TheChannelCraft.
We have no idea if total beginner Barry even knows he can keep his brain at high speed like that.
Honestly, I could accept Barry constantly stopping to talk to his enemies, since he is so fast it shouldn't matter. Why not chat for a bit? It's not like they can do anything to him... the problem is that after the talk he just lets them attack him. Comparing it to a tun based RPG is a very good analogy to what this series feels like.
Or even better he could just relocate them to star labs and talk to them there. It would feel much more like interrogation and much less meeting with an old friend
And civilians wouldn't be hurt and killed by his stupidity.
There was the animated series of the justice league, I never watched it but I've seen clips from it and in one of them Barry tries to and succeeded in talking to a criminal that just needed to take his medicine or something.
I think the talking could be totally justified if they made Barry's character try to convince them or something. Idk
@@jorge2555 Barry is normally pretty friendly and tries to help everyone (including helping talk down criminals if he can) that is true to cannon the issue is that 9 times out of 10 the writers don't know how to make anything interesting so he'll dodge a bullet touching his goddamn skin but then get hit by a punch, arrow, lightning, fire, or whatever other bs the writers feel are apparently fast enough to not only catch him off guard but also hit him before he can react to it.
Edit: also would like to point out in many universes the rouge gallery for the flash actually carries a pretty large amount of respect for the flash to such a point that many try to avoid killing as a whole both of innocents and of other speedsters. Course in many newer works this is completely ignored as it both lowers the stakes and makes them fighting the flash and doing crimes as whole rather redundant, but there are still quite a few instances of the flash either working with his rouge gallery if one of them goes to far or them going out of their way not to kill him.
😂😂😂
You need to understand... He needs the power of love to beat the villians
And friendship- wait a minute he stole that from Sonic
@@lazerstudios9982 oi ima stop you right there SPEED SPEED SPEED
The speed force is powered by love in season 7 😂😂
No he doesn't!
Maybe the real Speedforce was the friends we made along the way
“My name is Barry Allen and I’m the fastest man alive.”
_every season has someone faster than him, physically and mentally._
Why does a vibrating hand kill you?
Not every season. When he lost his emotions in the episode "Think Fast", he used his brain. He ended up getting super thinking and just because he thought faster, he became a way better hero. But he gave it up because Iris was stupid as always.
@@cobrakaineverdies4888 they fail the vibe check
@@thatrandomnerd6996 I mean Jay legit used his vibrating hand to take a bullet away from dr wells but that didn’t kill him?
@@cobrakaineverdies4888 I mean, it depends on the context. Is he phasing? If he isn't phasing, the vibrations can make a speedster's hand work like an electric or chain saw. That's the explanation given, anyway
Okay, at first I was mad when you dissed season 1, but then I watched the rest of the video and you're completely right.
Before I watched this video, I just thought he’s a hater of The Flash, but now watching it 18 minutes in, I gotta admit that everything he’s said so far is correct. Even though I love The Flash, there’s just so many things that don’t make ANY sense 😂
@@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256I have a feeling that people who are saying he is hating on flash are missing, that he is analyzing a TV show, not a hero as a concept. He is just saying that this company did a goofy ahh work portraying flash's powers in scenarios vs other humans and heroes. Just commenting a bad work done by this company, not commenting that flash does not make sense as a hero
@@aleksquack4877 ah okay. Thanks
@@narutoninjagoandtheflashar4256 its not so many things its basically everything
@@Burning_the_toast I guess. I still love the show though. But yeah
_"Don't care. Create a better scenario where he does it."_ is now my new go-to phrase when someone tries to justify poor writing.
Or just dont and come up with a good idea instead. That's pretty much their only option here. The flash is kind of a dumb concept to begin with.
@@bobjob140 The flash as a TV show with like 22 episodes is very dumb. It probably could work with like 5-6 episodes in a season without all filler bullshit and mostly fight other speedsters.
@@bobjob140 The flash was actually a good idea for a tv show, it should have just been executed differently. That's it.
@@cris8627 how could it be a good idea? I’m sorry but super speed also gives you slow motion, super strength, go fast enough to fucking take the air out of a small area, time travel, speed force(could be used as a super prison for non speedsters), going through shit. Flash could be basically a god if he didn’t fuck around most of the time.
@@Chadius_Thundercock Just change the plot to make it more logical and interesting. Like for example when it comes to his fights with captain cold the writers could have made it so flash was losing his speed/energy before that so he's better of a match to him, like for example by reverse flash stealing his speed in secret by sneaking in some sort of device in his suit (pretty sure something similar happened in season 2), flash needing food because of his super metabolism etc. They also could have made it so captain cold's gun doesn't just slow flash down when it hits him but that it slows him down even if he's close to it. With the guy who could clone himself the writers could have made it so he had multiple clones of him throughout the city doing crime shit and a lot of them so it's more challenging for the flash, and with the toxic gas guy maybe make it so the exact moment before he is hit (even at super speed) his reflexes make him turn into that green gas again and so on.
Barry: “I am the fastest man alive.”
Some random speedster from another dimension: “No, I am.”
Barry: “Oh, fuck.”
_5 seconds later_
Barry: “Never mind, I used the power of friendship and now I’m faster.”
Some random speedster from another dimension: “Oh, fuck.”
**Roll credits**
I just wrote 5 fucking seasons of this shit.
More like 7 useless seasons of a show in actuality should never be made. If the Flash's power is, so OP, why in the world do the writers choose to make Barry look like an absolute imbecile, not beating his enemies in less than 5 minutes but takes an entire episode of 30 minutes or three to win? It makes you want to apply a hammer to your head as a sedative to get away from watching something so mind-numbingly stupid. Yet this is probably not just the Flash, but all superhero shows done by the CW. Where they had the power to end the threat in 5 minutes or less but choose to waste everyone's time, beating the person with methods they should have employed in the first encounter.
@@mstevens94 Sometimes there are reasons but it is silly
@@tobsonasanya4765 there aren't, stop protecting the show
@@mstevens94 What about villains who capture his long ones, or people who can affect his powers or speedster villains especially
@@mstevens94 Yeah writing speedsters and mostly op charcters can be inconsisrent
Even if Barry were actually doing turned based combat like pokemon, he is the fastest man alive, by rules of pokemon he would go first
Unless the opponent has a priority move and a higher speed stat than him
And even if he went first, what if the opponent used Protect
@Ok Hey, there's an actual ability that makes priority moves go after ya.
@Ok maybe they have tsareena and is using a priority move
@@ezekielstevenson4542 But Barry's speed surpasses any priority move so it wouldn't affect Barry and Barry would go first still.
lmao
Captain Cold's typical approach in the comics isn't to immediately shoot Flash directly, it's to freeze over the environment so that Flash's speed works against him due to the reduced friction. Aided even further by his team ups with his sister Golden Glider who is a specialist in moving over ICE!
To be honest that is just as retarded...
And how they gave an actual challenge or problem to the Flash without making them be as fast as him, people who while weaker, can cleverly use their powers, resources, and the environment together to pose a legitimate problem to The Flash, not CW's artificial fuckery.
@@pajwubx1809 Listen I've read only one flash comic featuring captain cold, "Flash: Ice and Flame" and in it, not only does the flash run completely normally in the ARCTIC, but he needs Captain colds help to take out Heatmonger. It was just as contrived
This is why it pisses me off when people say the mcu characters are “too nerfed” compered to their comic counterparts. Ya they’re too nerfed so shit like this doesn’t happen.
MCU characters are dumb too they nerf them to create tension but their writing isn't as good as people say it is.
@@porassrivastava8242 still better than the cw, I actually watch this show and semi enjoy it to (I just dont take it seriously); but the marvel writers are at least semi competent and know how to make justified tension
@@mr.pistachio9970 plus mcu is pretty consistent with everything they wrote, powers don't fluctuate without any reason in mcu, they have op character without obvious weakness like captain marvel, their solution to allows conflict is getting rid of her from earth as galactic peace keeper so she can only come when the story needs her, like i said their writer is pretty competent...
@@andhikabayutrimulya6455 still she is a dumb hero imo
@@mr.pistachio9970 anything is better than the CW
I've learned over the years, the flash's greatest nemesis isn't Reverse Flash, or Captain Cold..
It's the CW Writers
Culture is literally changing and Media reflects that but Media is also the Cause, cause it's all symbiotic.
For example, Quotes from the
12. Doctor: "Oh, the Mechanized Space-Suits malfunction and attack us? That's funny cause that means we're like Anyone-else Everywhere-else: We're fighting the Suit!"
12. Doctor:"What makes you feel so superior? It it the good House?
But Human-Progress isnt measured by Industry, it's measured by looking at a Life.
An unimportant Life... a life without privilege.
13. Doctor: "OMG, OMG, OMG, have you heard of Space-Amazon?
Amazon is so epic, everyone who disagrees with that is a literal PIG. We should all
stop criticizing Amazon forever."
I kid you not, they said that. Holy Penguin, wtf.
And yeah, Critical Drinker's massive Success with his 'Why modern movies s-ck'-video-SERIES speaks for itself. People DO want Quality back.
I dont know how to help but with ONE thing: recommend you all hour-long, much-entertaining Criticism Essays, like Madvocate did with the Flash, Jay Exci did with Doctor Who
and Hbomberguys whole channel basically, but especially RWBY. If we support that,
we support ourselves.
@@loturzelrestaurant I wasn't referring to the culture. CW is a Soap Opera channel, not a superhero channel. They aren't remotely good at superhero stuff.
To be a little more fair this Version of Weather Wizard or Martin could have learnt to fly sooner. I watched half this Video now, It's pretty good. The Writers need to be much more better
Martin could have flew away to escape
@@AtomicPatriot OK 9kokokokkkokokkokk9ookkokokkko9kmkookomomm9k9kok9k
Theory: Captain Cold is self aware of the world he lives in and knows that he’s invincible as long as he acts menacingly and calmly walks away from danger of being caught
* chef's kiss *
He does die after acting heroic eventually, so you have a point.
@@Mothuzad fr he didn’t want to be apart of the later seasons bullshit
Yep, maybe that's why the cop didn't shoot him. He maybe thought he s a mutant or something.
@@yungedzzz He then gets brought into the future seasons against his wishes
I like how this could mostly be solved with one sentence from YJ
'If I take Arsenal, can you run Robin out of here?'
'No can do, fast, not strong.'
- Bart Allen
This gave me a good chuckle.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SHOW OMG. completely off topic, i really like the flash in YJ. i think he’s only in like one episode, but i love his character
Bart allen is Impulse right?
red and white costume?
@@Emily12471 yea he is! he’s from the future and runs back to stop the Reach
@@Emily12471 yah
Barry: There's nowhere to run!
Villain: *walks off screen*
Barry: "Oh danm he got away"
LMAO
I can’t wait for him to tear Season 5 a new -time- hole...
Cicada walks away in practically every scene...in like 15-20 of the episodes 😵 and his acting is hands down the shittiest performance I’ve ever seen
@@harrambou9468 he will tear apart season 5
🤣
😂😂😂
the plot of every flash episode
"stop this, we can find a way to help you!"
"theses no helping me anymore!"
"GUYS WHAT DO I DO HE'S TOO POWERFUL"
"Run. Barry. Just Run.
"IT WORKED!"
Best comment.
yes. or "Barry, we are The Flash"
@@schopin
*Soviet theme starts playing*
@@mroffice8166 lmao
"NOW I AM MOTIVATED"
Barry: "There's nowhere to run!"
Every villain ever: "May I introduce you to _walking off-screen?"_
This! Lol
Accurate, especially if we consider that Thawne aka Wells confirmed that Barry was a genius and not such a stupid dumbass
"If it's not in frame, it doesn't exist!"
- Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau
Exactly. They walk at a normal pace through a door but Barry somehow can't catch them.
😂😂
It's so cool how every villan in this show has the ability to teleport.
Barry: "I'm not fast enough I can't beat this guy."
Team Flash: "Run Barry, Run."
Barry: "Oh my god why didn't I think of that?"
And then he proceeds to double his speed instantly.
Lmao thats fucking fucking fucking fuck ing ing fuck ing fu kn o a iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii funny
@@user9999-z “Woah, just take it easy, man.
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99 uh uhhh hu hu o oo oo kkk ok
@@user9999-z u good bro?
@@lambachurro8790 one Word hes on
Cōcāíñé
Barry: there’s no where to run
Villain: runs
Barry: *confused staring*
That must be why he says it. He's hoping they DON'T run, because that's his only weakness, apparently.
@@westinjohnson berry is an idiot and an psycho on that show
@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo 7 seasons later...
They never evolved. The CGi is kinda cool tho (only the lightning)😂, but the surroundings of where Flash is running? Oh god... How come there are no cars (or few) and no pedestrians, and wow, he runs REALLY UNBELIEVABLY STRAIGHT (didn't show any obstacles to avoid)🤦🏽♂️.
@@xSENSEIxxPARKERx25 yea but what if berry knew he was op as heck but he just barely helps people he just do that for entertainment but if you think about it that’s makes a lot sense.
The worst thing is Barry is supposed to be super smart…
He literally the most powerful comic book hero ever. He supposed to be faster than time itself but for some reason cant out speed a villain whi ran away two seconds ago.
I would f**king love a power fantasy where The flash goes around beating everybody to a pulp without giving them chance to breath, that would be better than this s**t hole.
Most powerful dc hero but yeah
@@f4ishal996 The closes one to that is when batman/flash combine in the dark universe series. Where batman with flashes abilities literally ko' every villian in an instant.
In the comic he is so fast that he evacuated an entire city of 500k people AFTER a nuke goes off. The bomb literally explodes and in the time before the explosions hits anything he moves 500k people outside the range of the nuke it wasLess than a pico second. And the CW has him getting beat up by 4 normal guys? 🤣🤣
I honestly hate it when someone says a character is "faster than time" like what the fuck is that even supposed to mean? This is what happens when the writers try to desperately make a character impressive by increasing their powers to absurd levels, it started with "yo he's very fast" to "he can break the laws of physics and move multiple times faster than the speed of light to the point where he can stop time pretty much and time travel at will" of course when you reach to a point this stupid the only option for the encounters to have any meaning is to make the protagonist a complete dumbass moron because, if Flash had a single neuron more the series would have been over on the first episode
This show has no idea how fast lightning is! It's 270000 mph, and his TOP SPEED at the end of season 1 is mach 2. There is no way that Barry saves Wells in episode 7
Is there a possibility Thawne went into flash time and brought Barry in with him,then pretended to be still so that Barry could save him otherwise Thawne would give away the fact that he has speed. It is the only thing I can think of to defend this
"The CW needed manufactured conflict"
This is it. The summary of the entire network.
*poorly manufactured conflict
Writing themselves into corners consistently is a mark of poor writing.
One easy thing is to make the Flash slower.
Let's be fair,
Any fictional conflict is manufactured conflict,
CW is just garbage, always has been.
It's not just their writing, watch the intro to 'Star Trek Enterprise'.
@@boblast5582 This video here is literally a 'The Flash Version' of
Jay Excis Most Popular video: his hour-long Criticism of Modenr Doctor Who.
And theres even a whole channel full of these: Hbomberguy, a guy who's specialized
on this thing but he calls them 'Measured Responses'.
The solution is the Smallville solution. Make him slower, and end the series on him getting full speed. But this show was never made to be logically consistent so whatever.
CW hires writers that need experience, that's why. Diversity hires as well. So...
@@anti1training Except season 1 was good and again people would complain that he is too slow or something
@@tobsonasanya4765 except it wasn't good from a writing perspectice. It's only good when you compare it to other more shit.
The point is that if they needed to nerf Flash, they should have found a better way to nerf him rather than just losing brain cells at convenient times.
@@angelreyes8714 I guess sometimes the villains used civlians as a distraction. I kinda excuse it since it is season 1 barry when he was a bit more careless
@@angelreyes8714 Eh season despite it s flaws was good but season 2 was the shows peak
"How fast is the flash?"
"Depends on the plot."
Eris pads her chest
Killer frost should not have gotten away. YOU HAVE FUCKING SUPER SPEED!!! SHE IS POWER WALKING! I don't care if she froze you, you can still walk 1000x faster!
Depends on how stronge the enemy is average man: inf speed strong man: slower than a grandma in a wheelchair
@@ronancoster8910 I mean how could hee see in the cold air
@@Tha_one67 Slower than a grand ma nah
How the hell does Martin get out of the car crash faster than the fastest man alive
Dr wells helped him out 😭
Most of Barry's problems can be solved by him just running up to the bad guys real fast and punching them
But then what point of the show be? it'd end like 6 mins
@@theflashcontent4847 very true
There wouldn't be much of a "show" to watch
But why show us that he can do that once and not let him do it again in moments where he could have really needed it?
@@theflashcontent4847 Well then maybe this show shouldn't be about Flash beating inessential third-class villains every episode. It should be like the Titans or Superman and Lois. They should focus on speedster villains like Thawne or Zoom. They are the only worthy villains when it comes to the Flash.
Honestly, you think Flash is OP? Isn't Superman also OP (might even be more overpowered)? Yet Superman and Lois did it right. Why? That's the question CW should really think about.
@@theflashcontent4847 They should make it like Loki or “Rick and Morty”
@@fortnox5e1h73 it would be like looney tunes ☺️
Barry would function infinitely better as an anti-hero, like how Deadpool is op af but since he's bored he fucks around so the enemies actually have a chance.
it's infinitely more entertaining to see Deadpool playing with the bad guys
Like Saitama.
@@Raccon_Detective. saitama is more of a satire of the genre. For sure The Flash could do the same but it's a very narrow view that's been explored before and I don't know if it can be more fleshed out.
I've read some Flash comics and they were pretty entertaining, entirely depends on the writers.
I wouldn’t say Deadpool is OP simply because he isn’t the strongest, smartest or the most skilled. He just doesn’t care because he is effectively immortal.
"Flash, you need to go THIS FAST!"
"But I've never gone THAT FAST before!"
"Well, you've got to try!"
**and then he goes that fast. repeat every episode**
**still loses to humans at normal speed**
yeah thats it all 7 seasons with about 5 episodes of deviation
Tbh with 35 words.
Fuck
Fuck
Fuck
Get an animator to create the fight scenes
Fuck
Literally one of the worst shows ever. It was entertaining at first, but I used total supsension of disbelief other wise I couldn't have sat through the 2 first seasons. Than I just stopped.
@@Leprutz I completely agree with you there. I got tired of it real fast
At one point I watched all these videos a row. Now whenever someone mentions anything about the flash, I hear in my head "There's nowhere to run... Dadee daa daa!".
only one critique about this video: "there's no where to run" scene should've gotten progressively more deep fried.
I agree
It’d be too cringe
@@beansntoastyt2616 well, its a video about flash so...
*_nah it'll be finnnee_*
@@breawen Flash season 1 was good though but ok
@This Channel introduces R18 sexy gals ?
The lightning that gave him powers hit his head and burned his brain cells
To be fair this was season 1 barry
@@tobsonasanya4765 and why does this matter? Experience? He doesn’t need experience he just needs common sense
😂😂😂😂😂😂💔💔
@@nguyen5762 Just saying lol speed can make you cocky
@@tobsonasanya4765 cocky, but not dumb
The CW: damn I need a weapon, ahh I'll use my knife to sharpen this stick.
My fav comment so far.
Nice futurama reference
Unironically that's actually one of my favorite gags if done for comedy.
Lmao
thats smart realy if the stick is a good wood and long it will stop you from damaging the knife and you will have a longer reach
I feel like CW could’ve made gold if they made the flash a csi-centric show, with Barry having to solve crime scenes with his CSI skills, then dispatch the culprit as flash. Having the show be about flash solving crimes that occurred after the window of saving them has already closed makes more sense than him going to scenes of the crime as they’re being committed and doing nothing in return. Most episodes should be mental challenges to the hero, not physical. The only time challenges should become physical is when there’s enemies that can reasonably counter the flash’s powers.
CW seems to forget that flash is Barry Allen, crime scene investigator first, and flash second. It’s why Batman values his work.
"don't care, create a better scenario where he does it" that's just so unbelievably true, incredible how the writers just couldn't get to that conclusion
like, suspension of disbelief is powerful, and i can do it so strongly, to the point where i enjoyed the first 2 seasons, i just didn't overthink it, but after that if you just have a brain it becomes jarring how much it sucks
@@Arixandrine with suspension of disbelief the thing has to be good think of rataole (i can't spell it so i doubled down rat chef movie) it's easy to snack something you dislike and if every five seconds you have to suspend your disbelief in new ways it gets jarring (like you said)
Like the first Weather Wizard dude, they could have had Barry break his leg in the car accident and thats why he couldnt do anything for those moments. Then in the Tornado have him floating in the Tornado because of the winds, So Barry couldnt just run at him and take him down.
With the multiple Man or whatever. Have it when Barry is using his Super speed the electricity he gives off triggers the duplication powers. Like a reflex from the stimuli. So thats why Barry cant use his speed to hit him, plus it only increases his opponents.
@@dexnacorn7807 You could have googled rat chef movie ( just did so I know I ain't speaking giberish ) to see the movie name and copy it by hand or control c control v
@@lenakauan that a lot of effort for basically nothing
Barry: This guy is so slow there's no way he's faster than me
also Barry: gets beaten
again Barry : CISCO WHAT DO I DO
Cisco: this is the mega speed dampner it works almost never when its convenient
Dampner: *Doesnt Work*
Barry: Guys what do i do?
Team Flash: Run faster than you've ever run before
Flash: I've never gone that fast
Flash: *Runs that fast*
Basically
I watched 6 seasons of this show and this is whole series
My guy just summed up a 7 season series into a couple of sentences.
i am on season 2 and it is literally every episode till now lol
How he stopped zoom and savitar in a nutshell
Barry is too polite for his own good, always introducing himself and striking up a conversation before fighting (unless you're a regular crook with no special tech, then it's instant K.O)
@xGungiManx I mean he does not do that when cvilians are about to die
I mean normal thugs are not worth it
@@tobsonasanya4765 🤥
Dude how TF did you manage to suffer through watching all of the episodes without severe mental trauma? I am genuinely impressed.
Not only has this mad lad suffered through this season, he also did 2-4 and has confirmed he's watching 5 so we'll probably be getting coverage of that.
Speedsters are OP AF.
This is a fact.
If you want to write stories about them doing anything other than being awesomely OP, you need to either handicap them (emotionally, physically, with consequences, price for the power, whatever) or write antagonists that have equivalent powers, nullifying powers, or are so damn invulnerable that it causes a stalemate. Alternatively, do a little of both; the speedster can be vulnerable or compromised in some way and also have an antagonist that he doesn't want to fight or is ambivalent about fighting or who holds something over him or that can manipulate him competently. Something. Anything. No, anything *other* than making the speedster too stupid and incompetent to live.
Hmmm... What about this?
The speedster in question knows how fucking OP he is and doesn't care enough about people aside from his close ones, he just does the hero thing for fun. He just knows he would end the fight and save the civilians on a blink, so he thinks "Meh... It wouldn't be that fun for me" (or the audience, if you wanna break the 4th wall) and you have him for example: playing a bit, or even letting the criminals get away a little or letting them have the guns 5 minutes more on purpose before knocking them out.
(Idk if i explained myself correctly, its almost 5 AM here)
@@-KnightOfTheWind Interesting... that would tend to make him either a giant jerk (like Omni-Man) or an apathetic slacker (like One-Punch Man). Which actually has potential, but would require excellent writing.... on a CW show?
@@-KnightOfTheWind this could be a fun take. the only example i'd know is metroman from megamind, though admittedly he wasn't just a speedster.
How about the speedster can only move at super speed, but not think at super speed. That way he can only move as fast as he can react or he needs to plan out all his actions beforehand.
That is how super speed works in One Piece.
@@schwarzerritter5724 then as soon as he gets powers, he runs into a wall and dies. people brains aren't made for going mach-10 through a city center.
the closest i could imagine was a temporary power up to super speed and being a human most of the time. that way you'd need a plan to avoid running out of time
"...and I'm the FASTEST man alive!"
Almost all seasons' plot is about that there is someone faster than him or that he is not fast enough.
This. ☝🏻 I had to stop watching when Sevetar showed up and my brain could not comprehend why the hell was I still watching it. Just every single episode was centered around being faster, or teaming up with someone else who is fast. Christ.
1 - thawne
2 - zoom
3 - savitar / it's also barry
4 - devoe / faster thinker
5 - a villan that sounds like a bug holding a dagger-shaped meta cuff
6 - modified blood & the literal photons
7 - girl with photons, forces, fake speedster with white suit what the fuck we're back with the same plots again
despite the fact he accidentally ran so fast that he time traveled, he is still able to run even faster without time traveling? Also his clothes only sometimes catch on fire
@@qrae_qrae6629 But y'all would compalin about non speedster villaisn lol but ok
@@crypto1223 And the more speedsters the better and season 3 was kinda good
"Barry just lets him make a move like its a fucking turnbased RPG"
Best explanation of the problems with super-speed story telling ever! xD
Yup, on point
that was actualy funny and pretty on point yes, and not only for this show but for like at least half of the series, movies that exist, things happen or are let it happened because plots need it and thats it, there is no real and legit reasons why this could happen.
But to be fair there is a lots of things where plot is ok, and in the flash ok there are clearly a lots of inconsistant things but, with speed powers anyway its just impossible to create plausible things for most situation.
Doesnt mean it can be writtent better or at least in a more entertaining way but speed power is so strong that it can honestly just instant stop pretty much 90% of any situation that could happen.
Only some personne have power that can have a sens in fight with a speedsters, obviously superman because he is fast but wayyyyy more strong, so he could just stand still and let flash break on him lol.
Killerfrost actualy got a really strong power and in the serie they actualy shown how it works kinda, the fact taht her freezing ability is so strong that she can slow down mollecule, so actualy she can have a control over flash because she can slowdown his speed, we nearly could say at some point that they could be some king of opposite force, like one exite mollecules while other slow them.
Many people with energy power, depending on hox it works could work against flash, like doing some energy field, or AOE blast and things like that.
But overall those few cases pretty much anything else is insta "flash im gonna kill you, or your..." aaaaaand he is in jail, just needed the time to confirm he is a vilain and insta sonic punch him, KO, jail, bye
@@Shiirya But this is season 1 so not really
Eh
Bro that whole RPG sequence had me dying 🤣
The biggest plot holes in the show is that they say “Barry can only run at 200 mph but also shows him casually dodging bullets going at least 1,300 mph while saving other people too”
I just realized how easy it would've been to make Captain Cold an actually threatening villain worthy of the kind of hype they give him in the show: have him be a trap master. Instead of just acting like his gun that shoots ice is somehow so much more dangerous than a gun that shoots bullets, they could have his gun have a lot more functions. Like, say, creating an aura of cold that slows down the Flash simply by entering it. Have him be an actually clever trapmaster who beats Flash by using his brain and creative strategies.
That would have been extremely interesting!
That’s actually how the cold gun works in the comics. The extreme cold slows down everything around him, preventing Barry from simply rushing him.
Funny you mention that, that’s how it works in the comics.
No that takes too much effort
@@tmo_117 Literally how?
The multiplier guy could have been such an interesting enemy, and an actually good villain. Have him make clones before doing whatever he wants to do, rob banks or kill civvies, and then he could go all over the city, or even to a different city, and do things there. Imagine the flash having to run between cities to stop a villain, that'd be an actually good use of his powers, challenge him, and be really cool to watch.
Write it down writ it down
That's what I and few other people in the comment section thought of, too. But I guess writers of this show didn't thought this way.
@@lakshaykochhar6799 Yeah even though they get paid to write shows :/
Its hard to control that many dublicates
@@mathiasffischer5987 In the finale he makes at least 50, he could have 10 crews of 5 at different locations, robbing banks, holding hostages, whatever. It's literally shown he can control that many duplicates in the ending.
In the comics snart has something called a cold field that if Barry runs through it he will slow down and snart would blast him this makes him a formidable opponent but they didn’t do it in the show
i initially read it as "snart has a corn field" and i was really confused
like turtle?
Couldn't he still like, throw a rock at him at super speed and knock him out?
@@ennui5819 The Cold field in the comics freezes everything down to the molecular level, the rock would stop moving in mid air or something
@@edcaous i dont think kinetic energy works like that
"My gun shoots ice'
"...okay? My gun shoots bullets"
Man, superspeed is insanely difficult to write about compared to superstrength. At least Spiderman can be all "I have to hold back my strength so I don't accidentally liquify this mugger" but The Flash just has no excuse.
Did you purposely say spiderman cause spiderman doesn't really have to hold back when he can easily shoot webs at muggers. Superman on the other hand has to deal with controlling his strength or even the hulk.
But yea, Flash doesn't have any excuse in terms of holding back.
@@natperXD Could be a mistake but comic book Spiderman actually does have super strength(granted things in comic books gets retconned all the time). IIRC when someone switches body with peter parker and becomes Spiderman, he accidentally killed a person or came close to killing. All because the fake Spiderman didn't realize how strong peter parker actually was and punched at full strength
Going through Flash's rogue's gallery, there not much else outside of speedsters that could pose a threat to him except for maybe the Shade and the Turtle.
@@abbaszaidi2615 It was Otto and he punched Scorpions jaw off I think
@@officerspider7996 that's it? I mean it still shows his strength but I remember it having a bigger impact about how strong he is
Every episode of The Flash, summarized:
“I’m just not fast enough…”
“Just run faster lol”
“Bet”
nowadays its just talking witht the villain
*insert Iris's pep talk about love and the power of friendship*
You forgot to make sure at least one person breaks down in tears each episode.
“Run, Barry, Run!”
@@gmork1090
someone on team flash every 3 minutes: "no, god, i- i just need to be alone and think about this." *storms off*
someone else on team flash: "I'll go talk to them."
Bad guy: hits barry and knocks him on his ass for about 5 seconds and disappears
barry, who can search the entire city in less than a minute: GUYS, he's gone!
Facts 😂
Or when he runs someone to safety and comes back and says "Guys he's gone" Like first of all barry weve seen when you are in super speed every slows down, So its complete bullshit their not right where you left them even if its bullshit they can't be more than a block or 2 away
I hate that too! It's poorly written! I also hate that he never uses the power of surprise...always makes sure he confronts the villian before doing anything, therefore, giving the villian a chance to do something first and of course they always do! Stupid! Makes me irritated
Thank you!
Madvocate really just spawned into youtube, started throwing hands, winning every fight destroying what little positive legacy the flash tv show had, then disappeared into the wind
Bars
I feel like they could have avoided a lot of these inconsistencies if the Flash was incapable of moving people while in super speed without the risk of turning them into red mist
Your not wrong and the speed of the bullets makes it look like he should be able to literally pick them out of the air.
@@coballard5334 yeah
The Boys did it right. A-Train just oblitertated that girl he accidentally hit.
@ I thought the boys handled it a lot better
There's actually something called the speed force aura that protects him and the people and things he carries from being damaged. If you removed that he'd be breaking things and killing people accidentally all the time. It just wouldn't work especially for a superhero tv show.
Barry's personality is inconsistent as his powers.
Almost every episode begins with Barry being a nice guy;
Something bad happens;
Barry becomes an arrogant prick;
Someone kick his ass and humbles him;
Barry goes back being nice and everyone forgives him.
I mean it's kinda logical people when they fail at something get more pissed then if they succeeded
But that's really realistic though
I don’t think logic really matters it’s a show about a guy that can run faster than the speed of light
People talking about logic yes this is logical for a human but if it's repeated it's pretty bad
@@hyperhigh3873 Just because it doesn't respect real life logic (physics wise) that doesn't mean it cannot have its very own separate internal logic and remain consistent to it.
I'm a big fan of The Flash's first few Seasons, and I was in the camp that Season 1 was awesome. I really liked Barry's personal story arc and his relationship with Thawne. I really love the scene in the finale when his future self motions for him not to save his mom, and against his wishes, he listens. No words were spoken, but the scene was enough for me to really feel something. Stuff like that is why I like Season 1.
While this video didn't make me like it any less, I do agree with pretty much everything here. I think it's impossible to make a show about a Speedster without it either having an insane budget, or being an animation. And of course, good writing really comes into play. So I can excuse these for the first few seasons. But later on, especially Season 4+, I no longer can. It doesn't have the writing the previous ones did to make up for the absolutely baffling bullshit they pull to make enemies seem like a bigger threat than they really are. And it gets more and more frustrating as time goes on.
But this video was solid. You've earned my sub. A lot of great editing in here, and solid points being made. I'm about to watch your Season 2 video now.
Nice to see you here!
A surprise to be sure
Me too
Wow Ink tank I did not think u were a flash fan
that basically sums up why i dropped the show...
That Pokémon cut scene!!! Amazing brother. I’m 3 years behind but I love when people put character and hard work into videos . Loved it great video
I wanna imagine he's come to terms with being godly op, so he acts stupid just to make things funnier for him at the cost of other people's lives.
I think this is my favourite explanation. Barry just plays god and lets people die
@Confusing Zark nope that is Canon idc what anyone says
@Confusing Zark All jokes aside though, thats the only logical explanation for him to act the way he does in the series
this is my favorite comment, actually easily explains Savitar existence and the reason Barry was able to understand his identity, because deep down all he wants is to play god .
Reverse Flash, be being overtly evil, is actually the good guy.
Fun Fact: There's a comic that addresses how overpowered Barry is, where a bunch of villains share stories of why "We don't mess with the Flash's territory." Barry hunted a man through time and space to make him return a kid's lollipop, which mentally scarred his ego forever.
Captain Cold apparently is God himself or something
doyou remember the comic name?
@@tornadosiren8691 The Flash (2016) issue 800
Yeah, and now imaging a super fast, super strong hero with super vision/hearing/resistance, x-ray and laser vision, super breath and the ability to fly being defeated by an emo guy who puts rubbish on his belt and fight perturbed teenagers on the streets during the night.
@@CalaTec ok, and then what?
@@milliondollarmistake I don't know, make him kind and compassionate so he holds back from using his full power. He is also immune to everything except for the material of the extremely rare (except everyone has it) remains of his own destroyed planet. Also he is weak to magic, but it doesn't matter, we know magic doesn't exist. And his most powerful ability is to hide his identity by just using glasses. But hey, I'm not a comic book writer, so don't ask me.
Every episode has a segment where a character sulks away out of the room(usually the main science room or some shit), then another character will take turn consoling the sulking character. EVERY GODDAMN EPISODE.
the famous "hallway counseling sessions"
They actually started making a joke in-show about it. They start setting up turns to be who talks to the character currently sulking
The writers of the flash were inspired by naruto's talk no jutsu
"I'll go talk to him" Or "Barry can I talk to You for a second?"
Why is that soooo fricking true?!?!
People with super speed basically have super strength because as everyone should know, faster things make more ouchie.
Agreed and even people with super durability aren’t going to be able to withstand him going Mach20, and punching them. It might break every bone in his arm, but he can heal from that.
I would ague every time he punches something at super speed the bones in his arm should splinter. “Basically” having super strength and actually having it are not the same, nothing about the flashes powers gives him super durability. Him punching someone at the speed of light would be like you punching someone at the speed of light. Both your fist and whatever you punched would basically explode.
As for any time the flash moves someone at super speeds, they don’t have super speed, and should realistically have their neck snapped the second flash grabs them and runs away. Just the sheer speed at which they are accelerated would cause their internal organs to crash into their skeleton and turn to mush (aka whiplash times whatever the speed of light is)
@@CrypticCobrahe has an aura that protects him from kinetic impacts and stuff like that.
This version Flash's strength:
- Immense speed
Weakness:
- Entity rendering distance of 1
- Internet explorer brain.
don't forget an immense fear of fog!
That moment when you have the fastest internet imaginable.
But your system is running on a decade old HDD.
nah he got a dvd system brain
having an entity rendering distance has it's pros: you can't get attacked by anything that isn't a meter of distance of you, the other thing is that you can't open containers (fun fact: chests and shulkers are entities, along with moving pistons and projectiles) the other is that you can see any living or moving thing.
@@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 even old HDD is faster than his slow ass brain.
It would be fine if he acted like an idiot when he began being a superhero and then got better as a superhero
That’s called character development
Uhhhh
Hahahahahahaha
To be honest ,he lack common sense
@Mr.1-UP Lol smartest I disagree. Also in the later seasons they don't fight regular metas
Big if
Possible villains that might actually work:
A riddler type guy that never shows himself and leaves bombs and traps around the city that require both brain and speed to disarm.
A character that is too heavy to carry too star labs, and too strong and durable to knock out unless Barry goes harder than he ever has. They almost had this with the colossus rip off. They came so close.
The lady that he can't touch without exploding, except he actually can't touch her without fucking exploding, and has to find a way to trap her.
Snart but with enhanced reflexes so he can actually realistically have a chance to hit the flash, and ice traps that barry won't see as he runs.
An invisible villain. Not so much someone he fights, as they are a harmless thief that he has trouble catching.
Mean army man but he uses government science to turn himself into a temporary speedster. This technology would in turn periodically reappear throughout the series as a kind of antagonistic macguffin.
A villain that can slow time, rendering the flash's speed useless and requiring him to rely on either his brain or just straight fist fighting.
Slowing time is a thing that makes no sense whatsoever tho. If youthink about it, it's about an interval, say, 5 seconds, take something like 10 seconds to happen. But if you think about it, that's just a change of time referential, as the moment is still passing, "slowing it" makes no sense (I know we're talking fiction here, but still, even the Speed Force takes some physics into account xD). Time is that thing that just makes no sense being manipulated in that sense, as it is just a flux that you can't really mess up with, only you can register moments with different units
@@Phoenax Fire Force uses physics to try and explain the crazy shit they do.
Sho for example, has the ability to stop the thermal expansion of the universe within a certain area of himself, allowing him to slow time since he’s reducing the thermal, and thus kinetic energy of everything around him.
That’s the most logical explanation of time stopping I’ve ever seen really. Since what Sho can do is “technically” possible irl.
Very very hard and very costly and far beyond our capabilities for maybe a couple thousand years. But possible.
@@CallMeSaltyScorpion Well yeah, but, you'd just be slowing like, the universe, so, ofc it feels slower, but, even if you speed or slow things close to you, a second is a second, it's not some physical or spiritual or whatever is the nomenclature for it, if it exists, that changes cause of energy. It's not something that's imaginable controllable. For example, take one moment in time, and take another sometime after: time that passes between those moments, any way you look at it, the interval will always be, say, 5 seconds, cause it's something you cannot stretch out. 5 seconds are 5 seconds. It's that thing that is immutable (or at least feels that way).
Now, it could make sense to slow something so much to the point that 5 seconds, in their referential, would be like 5 years to us. But then again, the difference there would just be the "relative time", cause the moment "intrinsic (idrk the word for it) size" wouldn't change. Kinda like how a Basket ball looks small to us but enormous to an ant.
I don't know if I made sense, it's kinda hard to try and explain my point of view about something as complex xD
Other things to counter Flash could be :
A smoke screened area. Literal silent hill Minecraft render distance tiny. Works best in a field with lots of boulders and twists and turns.
A slippery or sticky fluid on an entire room.
Anti-gravity trap that makes flash float. No ground = no run. Requires brain to get out
Anti-speed equipment. Like a tool that activates when it detects an object moving in hyper speed, it then triggers some scientific bullshit rendering the flash to run at normal speed, or freeze him where he stands.
A tool that gives the flash some latency and ping. Real life lag so he could have an excuse to his friends why he couldn't pick them up and relocate easily and why he trips, stumbles, and gets punched by normal speed punches and hits
Black hole. Not even the speed of light can escape it. Bye bye flash.
Hypnosis ability.
Mind control
Sleep ability
Cumomancy - the ability to make your opponent cum uncontrollably at your command. Top that.
But then, I haven't seen any of the Flash's movie series or comics so any traps already done above would prove to be useful already.
cant wait to see the breakdown of every season of this show using these criteria, stick it out Boss! we're counting on you!
The Flash: "There's nowhere to run!"
Morgan Freeman: "But there WAS somewhere to run, and run there they did."
Lol
😂😂😂🤣🤣😭😭
bro, 🤣
Damn. I read that in his voice.
You’re evil
The flash: there's no where to run...
*villian
I didn't hear what u said
I'll c u l8er
Flash when he struggles with Captain Cold but he can dodge bullets shot from guns:🥴
Yeah he can just dodge ice bullets.
The moment when a man with a fucking bow and arrow can even challenge "the fastest man alive"
@@kingcyclops4079 see Steve from Minecraft can handle him because he’s Steve
@@Omelander steve dont count he's a god
@@kingcyclops4079 That was season 1 lol
i stopped watching when the plot became this:"do this flash"
"no ill do this"
*ends up messing everything up*
"i should have listened to you guys"
And when barry says i wASNT fAST eNOUGH
@@nkuniverse7856 when iris said "you are not the flash, we are the flash"i almost punched the fucking screen
@@dario.m4707 lol and i don,t like that barry is always brooding now when he used to be so happy in season 1
@@nkuniverse7856 now its team iris not team flash lol, he cant even make his own decisions, and they make him look dumb every episode
@@dario.m4707 and the flash is one of the smartest characters in Dc
I love putting this series on when I go to bed. Its very well made. You're a great content creator and deserve more subscribers.
Flash: There's no where to run!
Villain: Walks away slowly and still escapes
Flash: Damn. Slow walking. My one weakness.
There no we’re to run dies by deadly gas
"Okay then I'll walk"
That doesn’t even happen in the show
“There’s nowhere to run, but that doesn’t apply to walking
"My name is Barry Allen, I can run faster than the speed of light but next episode I get hit by a gun"
" My name is Barry Allen, i can run faster than the speed of light but i still get hit by a *normal punch* "
@@Personal-rc7cy he is now he’s faster but still he can’t run across central city in a split second even though he’s way faster than light
“My name is Barry Allen, I can run faster than the speed of light but next episode I can’t save my girlfriend because of a piece of glass that I can easily outrun.”
Faster than the speed of light, season 6-7 get hit by ultraviolet light
"My name is Barry Allen, and I'm the fastest man alive, but that doesn't matter because I talk to my villains. Instead of using my speed.
A lot of problems in the show could maybe have been solved if they expanded on something the show touched on: barry having a really fast metabolism. They could've made it where the more he uses his super speed, the more hungry he gets, to the point where he could starve if he goes too fast
Ikr? Like they mention it and then they just... Don't DO anything with it??? Bruh
@@_stupidbro I remember watching the show and was like “cool a weakness”. They had an entire episode dedicated to it, but it’s never mentioned ever again.
@Boa-Noah This!
I don't know why they didn't use it like they did in Young Justice with Kid Flash, whenever he used his powers a lot and didn't eat for a while he got so much weaker, it's an interesting weakness and it would makes him feel not fucking invincible
Yeah but then they couldn’t have him go fast all the time and his enemies would constantly get away because he’d have to take breaks all the time and it’d be really frustrating for the viewe- oh, never mind.
31:21 I was fucking bawling, I had to replay it over and over just to stop laughing 😭 😂
The dude can practically stop time completely in season 4, how the hell is any villain after that a problem anymore
@Christian Stewart well with the time thing at least it makes sense because the speed force will try to stop him. But the fact that he can go so fast that time essentially stops around him with no repercussions other than him getting tired after using for while is pointless because he never ever uses it again. Why can’t he just use it in short bursts and catch any villain just like that? It’s just stupid.
That’s the problem with giving a character super speed. People think “oh he’s just a fast guy.” Speedsters are basically gods with the way they can attack before you can even make a thought
bruh in season 4 he stopped time in season 6 he got fucked up by ultraviolet whose blasts are 'faster than him' and in season 7 he gets raped by godspeed clones who run at match 5 wich doesnt make fucking sense since he got the speed boost from the forces and anyways he still isnt 'fast enough' to fuck up some clones
@@sezo1d174 that’s exactly my point. At this point, only other speedsters should be able to fight Barry. However, even these Godspeed clones shouldn’t be fast enough to do so
@@nathansarfo1768 dude the writers of fucking show dont make sense sometimes literally they make him shit af like wtf man if hes not fast enough after all that shit that happened on season 4 that he unlocked his full speed he literally got fucked by devoe the guy who is the smartest they say barry can fast think and he cant fucking predict where hes going and how the fuck does zoom catch him in season 5 he literally destroyed him in season 2
"Why does Captain Cold get away?"
"Because he has more charisma than the main cast put together."
My favorite is when they finally kill him off in a spinoff show but then they still want to use him so they just pluck an alternate him from an alternate earth whenever they want. WHY DID YOU KILL HIM OFF IN THE FIRST PLACE
That's DC for anyone they kill
@@chuckbatmangaming I know right? It's so annoying
@@user-qp5yu1zq1m *CW
@@chuckbatmangaming
I think the actor wanted to leave
Seeing this show from another person’s perspective really shows how the writers don’t understand super speed. The only way to enjoy the flash is to forget all of these faults.
nope still cant enjoy it
the thing is they need continuity to make the show last long, if the flash just immediately took everyone to jail or something there would be no show
@@Maybe_Victor they could have limited it by him getting tired and needing food more and if he runs while tired he damages his muscles.Tbh with such an op ability you either have to right it really well or give it a downside
@@applepi3943 i’m pretty sure people wouldn’t want to constantly see him eat every episode but the second part isn’t a bad idea. but only if it happens like every 7 episodes so it’s not like he’s just running out every week hurting himself
Fax 🙃
Like 90% of the problems with his super speed would’ve been soled if they’d just said he had a stamina limit or something to it
I think that’s the downside to making a tv show about a character like Flash. You can’t keep relying on something like a stamina limit to explain away why trouble prevails. He’s only really useable in movies (well that didn’t go too well) where that excuse might play into the immediate story. I get why CW/DC didn’t do a Batman show lmao…the excuses they’d have to come up with would be redundant to the character 😂
@@EverydayWithBobby that’s true, however I’m just pointing out how they could’ve solved like 90% of the complaints in this video 😂
It's even worse if you think about the fact that he doesn't even need to run. He could just stroll around and still be faster than people can react.
My guy could be sleep-walking and he’d still be faster, that’s the worst part.
Same thing happens in comics all his videos make no sense
@@Hoopsforlife11what??
@@Hoopsforlife11 he literally says, if this stuff happens in the comics they are are bad too
@@Hoopsforlife11 🤡
After s5 s1 and 2 seem like fucking masterpiece made by god himself
Yes
7 is worse than Season 5...
no, he's saying that s5 is so bad that it makes s1 and s2 look amazing
@@karthikeya3591 i know
oh ok. sorry, i thought you didn't get it.
every episode: “i cant do it” “just run faster”
“wow thanks”
"how? the enemy is just too strong"
"u just gotta run faster barry"
"omfg mind blown"
*defeats enemy with five times the speed*
@@lambachurro8790 That ain't how it always work. Besdies this is season 1 barry
@@tobsonasanya4765 Dude.. I come back to rewatch the vid to see you still defending this show like 1-2 weeks later. Around 1k comments of you doing this shit-
@@tobsonasanya4765 holy SHIT your comments. please please be a bot of sorts
@@tobsonasanya4765 Tobs onasanya. I now recognize your name just by the amount comments you wrote. Please stop.
I love how there's an entire episode dedicated to Barry's ability to break the sound barrier, yet he's consistently moving faster than the speed of light, and still lets his enemies get away lol
"It's too difficult, I can't do it!"
"Run, Barry. Run!"
"I did it guys!"
After season 1 to 4 yes
@@bamjamw Eh
@@bamjamw
Season 2*
Everything went to shit in Season 4.
Season 3 was the last tolerable season.
That doesnt even make sense :|
"ThErEs No WhErE tO rUn!" gets me every time.
It's so repetitive and annoying in some way, but I laugh everytime it plays LMFAO
It’s true but he never actually follows through with it
😂💯
But they always run and somehow immediately escape the fastest man alive 😂😂😂
@@alexm2369 Eh debatable
One crucial mistake you made:
You assumed, that the writers start with the question "who is the bad guy and how do we catch him?" and then go from there.
In reality they start with the question "how can we force as many _cool_ scenes and villains into one episode, without looking too desperate for approval?" and then go from there.
And for them to do that, they have to absolutely ignore everything the Flash can actually do and make him extremely inconsistent
Not to mention the quips
@@Skrunnione could say the he’s insufferably inconsistent
You when they have to make the show entertaining and not worry if a nerd is gonna cry about it:😡
@@Joelbear08You when a commenter is talking about how corporate operations worry for gaining numbers instead of being good:😡
Back in my first year of college, I remember my seniors being super hyped about The Flash Season 3. These were people who usually didn't care about superhero stuff, so I thought, "This must be really good." I decided to give it a shot, but as soon as the villain with the freeze gun showed up, I was like, "Wait, The Flash is faster than a bullet-how are these regular dudes beating him with a freeze gun?" It made no sense to me. When I asked my seniors about it, they just said, "You can't expect realism in superhero shows." That answer didn’t sit right with me, so I dropped the show then and there. It's been years since, and honestly, I still feel like I made the right call.
They could have resolved a lot of his OP power by saying hitting someone at super speed kills them so he can't do it if he wants to take people alive.
Can't he... control how much speed he uses?
@@24spoce8 ye
@@evanf.4801 Indeed, and it would make some (note: not much) sense why he hits at normal speed.
It does not explain why he doesn't dodge at super speed.
Maybe instead add the consequence of him breaking his hand everytime he does it, having to recove- nvm he has superhuman regeneration i think
@@Username44555 superhuman/endurance is honestly a given when it comes to a lot of superheroes who have some sort of physical super power/ability that should have consequences to their own user. No speedster would be a speedster if they didn't have it. I mean. Just imagine it. The speedster runs max speed to punch a dude and then his arm (if not his whole body) is gone because he can't handle the own force generated by his own speed. Kinda silly, y'know?
I feel like an extremely easy way to resolve most inconsistencies would have been to make Barry's powers somewhat "burstier" in the show. For example, establish that every time he stops moving after using his powers, there is a short period of down time, just a couple of seconds, during which he is physically unable to move fast again. Additionally, the more he uses his speed in quick succession, the more of a toll it takes on his body until he stops to rest properly. That would essentially keep a lot of the show the same and allow time to exchange words with villains without it feeling forced (since Barry would have a logical reason to need to stop in place occasionally) while only requiring a little bit of rewriting to make his first attack fail and have the fight become more complicated from there, should he fail to apprehend someone fast enough. That way, he'll organically be forced to retreat and gather his strength every once in a while and think about what he did wrong the first time before coming back for a second round. It would also preserve the feeling of progress as with time and experience he learns to reduce the down time of his powers and occasionally creating that "wow!" moment where he runs faster and longer than ever before without stopping.
I agree.
Holy shit why aren't you a writer gor the show that's beautiful you should try writing ur own story ya feel cause that's a amazing idea
Please rewrite this entire show
I loved this alternative. Setting up a "skill curve" for Flash to make active effort to keep his speed working up keeps it very flexible and is potentially very satisfying. There's only _one_ problem, and you already have mentioned it: _"Make the fight become more complicated from there"._
Yeah, that is... that is a _very_ difficult thing to do with a speedster character, nerfed or not.
so its basically time stop of jotaro . needs to rest after using 5 sec of time stop
I see people bringing up its hard to write a story with op super speed but its not.
•Make a villain that’s not affected by flash super speed
• make them unable for the flash to relocate, like someone made of fire, water, or something he cant grab on
• make his no killing rule really stand out so we know why he holds back his punches and dont insta kill
• only show him truly dominating fodder throw away villains like captain cold or any regular human
• stop making him fight people who literally has no way of even seeing him move
• make the villains use more hostage scenes where barry has to go around the city and save people
• make the scale of villains bigger, these weak ass metas arent on the flash level, make him fight real aliens from the comics who actually pose a threat
• stop with the 24 episodes seasons and shorten it down to 13 episodes, save that extra budget for better writing and cgi and up the fight scenes
Too bad that will never happen because it requires a lot of good writing and careful planning and since the writers of the CW are lazy and have no spark of creativity they would not be able to make those scenarios
that first one doesnt really make sense. super speed is a power that solely affects the user. they can use it to move people quickly or disarm them, but it still only affects the person using the speed. you cant make someone immune to something that doesnt affect them in the first place
Or just limit his ability. Or make the antagonists smarter
It’s almost like there’s an entire comic full of interesting and well written scenarios that could have been used or learned from
"Make a villain that’s not affected by flash super speed" that isn't how speed works but I get what you mean and there is a villain like that. She is able to make the weight of what he is effecting with his speed (so things like his clothing or a person he is moving or even his own body) proportional to the speed he moves it at. Basically on a math level she is able to make W = mg into W = mv so suddenly the weight equation doesn't use a constant and isn't using acceleration. This situation forces him to only move in short bursts and requires more creative solutions.
this might be the funniest yt vid ive ever seen lmao i love it
I'm gonna blow your mind
there are 3 more
Finally truth! I won’t lie, I watched this show and enjoyed it, but every time it pulled some bs like this I would be screaming internally and tell myself “don’t think too hard about it.” The most painful moments are when Barry gets hurt because the villain (or arrow) predicted where he would be, like this implies Barry saw the attack and then just willingly walked into it. It also annoys me when Barry gets hurt by sound-based attacks as though Barry can’t easily break the sound barrier in a footstep, which means he can move between the oscillating soundwaves; before you say “that might just be too far” they literally explain that he can vibrate fast enough to move through solid materials. Makes no sense
The worse thing the writers did in this show is tone down Cisco's jokes to the point of being non-existant. Probably because he was stealing the limelight from the Flash. He was the best character.
No, the worst thing they did was make this show.
He basically is the most brilliant guy on earth. Want to make a tachyon based device? Cisco to the rescue. Want an elementary particle named after you? Cisco to the rescue. Want to see how you look in a parallel universe? Cisco to the rescue.
@@vaishnav_mallya What mattered to me is that he was funny and made this show worth watching. I was disappointed when they made him angry and depressed in a parallel universe, and after that it never really got back to normal. At least so far up to season 4, where I am currently at.
@@ifstatementifstatement2704 I couldn't watch past halfway through season 2. Gave up long ago. Arrow was good till season 3.
What gets me the most confused is how often he should have dodged something but he didn’t
Time masters
Quantum Realm
Deez Nuts
This goes to killer frost in season 3 where he moved someone out of the way of the blast but then a second later he stands still and let the blast hit him
Hes too slow right now. Later on he gets much faster and easily cathes bullets from a gun aimed right at someones head
it would be much better if in the beginning it showcases how absolutely fucking overpowered super speed is by catching every bad guy, and then make him go against harder challenges as the show goes on.
As a teen I was invested in trying to craft my own super-speed hero and one of the rules I came up with was they had to build up speed. Dodging a gunshot you just noticed in real-time while you were calmly standing still had low chances of succeeding. Also this made operating in tighter spaces like average hallways of a building or a single room limited.
You read it here folks: A teenager has a greater capacity for writing interesting heroes with limits to their powers than professional writers.
@@dr.cheeze5382 that's still even the smaller stuff. 😅
I also had the rule that the "super speed" was a time warping effect that would cloak his body and any material he physically interacted with. This helped with certain scenarios where physics are important, such as:
- Him reaching the speeds that would normally have serious external effects do not occur, such as sonic booms.
- If he for whatever reason hit a wall or some other object while technically moving for instance at 100 km/h, the force he and the object would be affected by would only be that of what it would've been based on his natural speed without the time warp.
- No matter how quickly he hit someone, the effect would only be that of his normal punch. This gave incentive to gain and sustain physical fitness. Though with enough speed, even average hits can overwhelm the best fighters.
- He could not do the usual "HA! I simply grabbed your bullet out of the air"-trick or its like. The moment he in-super speed interacted with the bullet, his warp-cloak would affect it and the bullet's speed would adjust, most likely instantly tearing through whatever part of him touched it. So COMPLETELY avoiding projectiles was CRITICAL.
Also what tempers all of this further is that your cognitive functions don't adjust equally. The levels of observation you'd have when running on a road compared to the same exertion plus warp-effect are not the same, a sort of tunnel vision forms and grows with the speed. So he should never attempt complicated tasks while in high super speeds.
@@sugartoothYT that is actually very interesting and I'd love to see you do more with this idea.
Top from Undead Unluck is an interesting version of this. His power is to negate any forces that would slow him down, causing him to accelerate unstoppably until his “shape changes”, i.e. he breaks a bone. In fact, he is physically incapable of slowing down until this happens, able to change direction if he has something to kick off of but unable to lower his speed. To attack someone at lightspeed he basically had to have someone else distract the opponent while he ran all the way around the world to build up enough speed. And as to be expected, it utterly destroyed the target. Pretty fair example of superspeed with understandable drawbacks.
@@DrGandW wow.
The show really needed to explain from the beginning that Barry had a limited stamina tied to his speedster powers. Like a huge hard cap where he could only go fast for a couple of minutes or in really short bursts and then would need to recharge for a day or more.
Just something. Anything to explain the inconsistencies.
The limited stamina would still not explain any of the problems that I've seen in the video. "Normal dude with gun" and co, being an actual consistent threat being the most glaring example. The video even points out several instances where dude with gun could have been defeated, but Barry just chose not to. Although I haven't watched the show myself (and probably never will considering what I saw here), so I don't know if there is any real explanation for why Dude with Gun is a threat.
@@krishnansubramoni7801 Probably because he has a cold gun that can slow Barry down….which Barry can just steal it with his speed. In the comics from what I’m seeing Captain Cold does have a cold field that would slow down the Flash should the latter get close enough, but that’s never seen in the series.
@lego Lmao.
Jojo's bizarre adventure actually does this. Jotaro has the ability to stop time, which would theoretically make him completely unbeatable. The reason he isn't is because it's established from the start that he can do so for only a few seconds at a time, meaning that smarter opponents can still work around this ability and hit him during his downtime.
A pity the Flash doesn't have something like this though.
That would be like hiding the dirt under the rug....
How to write Multiple man: Hidden main body. All fighting bodies are clones. The real body is multiplying somewhere else. Best option is in a mobile armored van close by.
How to write Cold guy: Creates a field of active cold around himself causing frost and making Barry lose friction eating massive amounts of dirt. Frost is no joke. A zero friction speedster is useless.
It's so simple!
If only the script writer have a brain. CW is written by a bunch of 13 year old over emotional girls.
How do they pay for crazy effects if they are 13yr olds
@@carlosfdez854 rich parents?
Writers didn't know science stuff
@@carlosfdez854 Pretty sure the producers and the network are the ones who pay for that, unless my brain no work.
Only seen this series through shorts
I INSTANTLY agree with you
In one clip he's faster than a bullet. In other, he's struggling to dodge rocks thrown at him