Tekton Uruz vs ZU Dirty Weekend MKII Sound Demo
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- Because you have asked: This is my first head to head sound off with the Tekton Uruz and ZU Audio Dirty Weekend MKII.
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0:03 Dire Straights: Private Investigations on Tekton Uruz
2:13 Dire Straights: Private Investigations on ZU DW MKII
4:26 Melody Gardot: March for Mingus on Tekton Uruz
6:32 Melody Gardot: March for Mingus on ZU DW MKII
8:29 Wailin Jenny's: Deeper Well on Tekton Uruz
11:23 Wailin Jenny's: Deeper Well on ZU DW MKII
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Great demo !! You are only one of the few who actually does not bore us to death with specs but rather let the speaker do the sound talking!!! We all thank you on youtube!!!!
Thank you Albert!
I cannot believe how much I preferred the Zu sound, I found the Tekton so restrained and subdued
Believe me when I say TH-cam compression takes the bite out of the ZU's and does make the Tekton's sound a little shaved off. Not the case in person.
I much prefer the Tekton’s
yes same here
Depending on the microphone, usually you are hearing a lot of the room effect in recordings.
On a whim I bought a used pair of the Omen DW's, after auditioning them, and they sounded fantastic. I got them home and they sounded terrible on my system. On another whim, I saw a YT video regarding Zu's and vintage Sansui receivers... I bought two, both locally and in working order, a 1969 Sansui 2000 and a 1970 Sansui 4000. The 2000 blew me away, the 4000 was over the top. I then bought a new pair of the DW6's with the Supreme upgrade. I am now good. These vintage Sansui pieces do what all of the modern gear I have owned could not do, put a smile on my face and let me enjoy the music.
Many low powered tube amps will provide a similar amount of joy with ZU's. Glad it worked out and you are enjoying your music on your terms! Cheers.
ZU DW6 with Superfly upgrade is awesome, cherish mine. NADM10V2 drives them !
part of that sibilence and slight ringing , we attribute to the digital format--we are slightly biased, as we are 99% Analog-need to hear these with audiophile LP's--both speakers are wonderful for their price points--true giant slayers--thank you for the great vid and for taking the time to do this-- gracias
Thank you!
By fair and away the best most informative reviews on you tube. I literally cannot listen to Gutenberg talk, and talk, and talk!
Well, don't bother with my other reviews :-)
Thank you, 2CL! Fabulous music demo. I loved the music.
I can't put my finger on it, but I'm leaning toward the Tekton Uruz. The bass and the drums seemed to have more resonance and the mids and highs were softer through the Tekton Uruz, which was very pleasing to my ear. The sounds coming out of the Zu Dirty Weekend MKII were much sharper, which I found to be a little more than a little irritating to my ear.
I was dead set on getting the Zu Dirty Weekend 6 until I heard this comparison as well as watching your previous videos on Zu vs. Tekton. Now, I'm leaning more toward the Tekton, specifically, the Pendragon, but still undecided.
Had to replace my Adcom amp and preamp, which I loved, a Cambridge Audio AZUR 851 paired with a Rotel Amp, Zlipsch Chorus II speakers, and a set of Denon speakers, which were all lost in Hurricane Ian storm surge flooding. Thinking about replacing all of those with SCHIIT Audio's Schiit stack of Vidar 2 (2 of them), Bifrost, Freya+, and Lokius.
Our room is open, about 25' x 25', 12' ceiling, 3 walls are concrete block, 1 wall is glass sliders, and the flooring is ceramic tile on a concrete slab. We listen to mostly jazz instrumentals and vocals, big band instrumentals and vocals, and funk, such as Tower of Power, Earth Wind and Fire, Kool and the Gang, etc.
Thanks again for your detailed and honest reviews.
I really appreciate all of your comments. You did do a good job of hearing both speakers as their are, pretty interesting how some hear the opposite.
I would absolutely try to listen to a pair of Pendragons before committing, I can tell you those tweeters and crossover scheme is not the same as the ZU and Tekton Lore/Pendragon scheme. I'm not sure what your budget is, but you may want to look at ZU Omen Def MKII's. Excellent with Jazz and female vocals, very dynamic. Plus, the larger Omen Def will fill that larger room of your like a panel speaker. They are even more efficient and would love warm, low watt Class A amps as you described. I would also say, if it tickles you, don't overlook Klipsch La Scala - with the genre you like, I think you would be pretty amazed how La Scala sound with tube and Class A amps. Some of the best percussion notes I've heard.
Very sorry to hear about your losses in the hurricane. I cannot imagine! Good on you for rebuilding and getting back to it. Please feel free to check in with me and let me know what you end up with! Take care.
@@2ChannelListening, thank you! I will look into all. Trying to keep my speaker budget below $4k. Would love to have some LaScalas. Love the Klipsch sound and look!
I will keep you posted!
Love your videos!
@@2ChannelListening, I think I'm pairing it down to KLH Model 5 vs. Zu Dirty Weekend 6.
@@gronthomson Good luck, I have no experience to say a word about the KLH.
Thanks for doing this comparison. Both sound great, but through my Sennheiser HD595s I prefer the ZUs. More compelling, detailed and articulate, but still very musical. Maybe it's bias because I just ordered the ZUs last week lol.
Ha ha, its all fair. There's no loser's in this test, that's the biggest point lost on so many. I enjoyed the heck out of the DW's, and now I am sitting here enjoying the heck out of my Uruz.
Congratulations on your purchase Mr. Clark. You will be happy!
agree- you can here the difference immediatley with great headphones-- plus killer choice of display tracks
@@2ChannelListening I'm surprised at your final analysis, to me the Zu are more dynamic, deeper soundstage, better clarity, more high and low end resolution. At least in my headphones the zu trounce the tektons. Just listen here
1:30
And here for an easy tell
3:38
@@hurkamur1 so you hit on something very important; what you hear through your headphones is not what I hear while creating and recording. This is the very reason I stopped making audio comparison video's after the Sony SSM3. What I heard through my own headphones after editing is probably a good 25% off from the actual live demo. It made me realize how much folks are not getting the real picture. I thank you for your feedback. 👍
@@2ChannelListening it depends on your goal. You can listen for entertainment, to compare differences. Especially if you have a known speaker in a test.
If it's for accuracy of judging final characteristics then sure, most people will be disappointed
That being said, I used tests to confirm a potential purchase :)
Wow... Hope to see some of you guys at Rocky Mountain audio fest I will be there for sure
Darn it I wish. Couldn't swing it this year.
The Zus sound shockingly good
And these are the entry level models...only gets better.
Great comparison. Thank you very much. Good musical choices.
Absolutely, thank you Howard!
Tried this listening session with my Sennheiser momentum 4’s in neutral settings.
The Uruz really flesh out the sound of the bass. It’s deep and with authority. To be heard. The Zu’s are brighter to take you away from the inability to touch depth but provide a more …. Mid range oriented experience.
I feel that the Tektons keep a better rendering.
Saludos, excelentes videos, las Zu suenan más vívidas y las Tekton más naturales, pero ambas geniales; sigue adelante, abrazos desde Bogotá, Colombia. ...
Thank you for watching sir!
Great demo thank you. I have the DW and the difference in these two was what I whish the DW had originally. New to HFI so could you explain what equipment you ar using. Sorry if you have already done this I cant find it. Cheers!
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Glad it was helpful!
System for this specific Demo:
Speaker cables are MIT Matrix 18.
Interconnects are Audience Ohno rca
Power Cable Audience F3
DAC - Matrix Element I
Integrated - Red King Premium by Erik S Concept
@@2ChannelListening thanks running through my pioneer sa 9500 and a not so great Dac. I mostly steam all my music so not sure what the best set up should be.
@@stevied2187 No worries Steve, nothing is a rush. You've got a nice big O'l receiver, you could add a Bluesound Node II and keep enjoying that music for a long time to come.
very coool video my friend👍🏼
Thank you 🤗
Tekton all the way in this three song session
Thanks for watching
More space and air from the Tectons, i like that. Less punch, veaker base with the Zus is what i can hear.
Going with the Zu DW MkII.
Good choice
Beautiful setup and great sound demo. I like the Uruz better, DW is too bright for my taste. What cables are you using?
Thank you SB. I use MIT Matrix 18's. Very well built and sturdy for all of the amp and speaker switching conduct each week.
The Zu’s definitely, pair with a sub and no contest ! Do you have the clarity caps on the Zu’s?
The ZU are equipped with the MR Clarity caps. Thank you.
Pair of DW MK II in Teal headed this way. I saw them on Zu's site in their ready to ship section. Cost a mint to ship them to Canada. Running this demo through a pair of LRS, but likely ditching them because amplifier stability is difficult at 500hz 3ohms. I expect the LRS would be great should I 2nd mortgage the requisite amplifiers to drive them. Errr... no.
I already built an Aleph J clone; reading anecdotes on diyaudio tells me it's going to be a great pairing with the Zu and my REL sub. Fingers crossed.
The Zu should work for me.... I really liked the RP-600M despite their obvious failings. They could really honk.
I once had a First Watt J2 with my Cornwalls, later an F6 with my ZU Essence - such a great pairing. Good luck!
Thank you for the demo!
I dunno my Klipsch speakers are reproducing this demo as well as my Sennheiser hd600 were. I think the speakers need to be tested with more energetic music to really get a feel for how well they perform.
The zu sound brighter to me and I find myself having to turn the volume down more often (actually with the Sennheiser which usually never hurt my ears) because it's irritating my ears. The tekton irritated my ears when the guitar belts causing me to go 😣 but the zu are negatively affecting my ears more in the snare strikes and they don't sound as clean or neutral. I can feel my ears almost distorting or hurting by all the mid range vibration. My ears are very sensitive.
There's times when I prefer either one but when there's a lot of energy happening I feel the Uruz contains itself better with it's more mellow high end. The Uruz almost sounds a little held back or veiled but maybe my ears are just used to coloration in the upper mids and highs. I'd get the Uruz. I'd guess the zu has a peak between 2.5k and 5k or it may be 1.6k-3k and another one higher like around 8k or 10k that's really bugging me out and making the sound not neutral to unpleasant at times.
To me, you picked up on the heart of what its like sitting in front of them. The Uruz have a nicer, relaxed, yet pleasantly detailed presentation. The ZU's can ring a bit when not played with the best recordings. The ribbon tweeter in the Uruz is a much better unit than the compression Eminence 1001.
@@2ChannelListening the zu's sounded harsh coming out my klipsch rp-500m speakers and the tekton sounded way more pleasant i might to buy these tektons someday , I'd like some towers but I want a tower speaker that I won't ever replace that can do movies and music well
Pls keep doing demos, maybe even before your review. Both nice but some traits dissimilar.
I'll go back and check your observations. These are fun but I don't trust them.
Zu more detailed. Tek more forward and fuller.
Which has the more precise soundstage?
I'm leaning to this Tek for double duty in a HT/stereo. Can you compared to Emotiva T2?
Excellent work!
Thanks Derek. The Uruz are just slightly recessed compared to the DW and therefore the side to side panning is a little more realistic. I have not experienced the Emotiva T2 and cannot comment on them. Thanks for watching.
Fed up with this song but best dynamic range of any CD 😊
Well, where did you place the mics?
It is a stereo mic as pictured , capturing the recording at 9', at roughly 90db playback.
The Zu sounded the best👍
Thomas
Thanks for watching
It seems overall the Zu's were played at a higher volume which is perceived differently. Did you set the amp at the same level for both? (The ZU is more efficient so that could explain why).
I can assure you an SPL meter was used for matching output as closely as possible.
@@2ChannelListening Thank you.
Different sensitivity. With the same power supply you have different loudness.
Give me the Tekton sound and the Zu looks!
Right!
@@2ChannelListening They used to offer wood veneer, theres a photo of an Uruz in walnut on the tekton website, I wonder if they'd be up for doing custom wood Uruz again, or maybe sell it raw and have someone do the veneer for you?
@@alexanderstefanov6474 one would have to start with a fresh pair since they round the corners on painted pairs. I wouldn't trust the corners lining up and staying together long term on the pair I have. Eric used to offer that option at a pretty expensive upcharge. I'm sure one would be better off find and buying the veneer for a local to accomplish. Nice thought, certainly tempting.
Seriously why does tekton have to look so cheap
The Tekton are warmer but the ZU's are more engaging. Thanks 👍
Fair enough, it all hits our sweet spots differently. Thanks!
What is the complete system ? What are Speaker cables ? what interconnect cables ? Thanks
Speaker cables are Matrix 18.
Interconnects are Audience Ohno rca
Power Cable Audience F3
DAC - Matrix Element I
Integrated - Red King Premium by Erik S Concept
the zu's seem more resolute in the up register, but less soniclly organized
Good way to put that and correct. The ZU will squeeze resolution out of a turnip, yet it does that with everything. Maybe I'm getting older, tad more balance is welcome. Thanks.
For me the Zu was placing everything in the middle, particularly on the Dire Straights. I don't know if that was because of how it was recorded or not. Needless to say playing it direct from Tidal over my own speakers showed the actual soundstage to be much wider.
Have you consider doing a review .. For Beginners. Going on Ebay or where ever..Getting a Adcom, and NAD. Amp and Pre Amp..and doing a shoot out...I think it would be a hit.. I did it, which is how i decided what amp and Pre Amp i was gonna keep.. On a super low budget.. Im not a TH-camr . keep up the gois work
Thanks, great idea. I know John Darko just made a nice video on this very subject. Certainly I could give it a different take. I appreciate it, thank you.
@@2ChannelListening . please call me Wave
. Here's my Email address.. wavechanrealty@yahoo.com.. I know for a fact ..you coyld probably pick up all 4 pieces for around a thousand bucks... Just make sure you keep prices close..it'll be a hit...I'm also consider updating my preamp from mt Adcom GFP 555 to a Bryston BP 5. Any thoughts
Thanks for the fantastic sound samples of what a first glance might seem to be speakers with a somewhat similar sonic character. That couldn’t be further from the truth. The Tektons seem to have an overall smoother and more balanced presentation, where the ZU’s almost sounded to have little peaks at certain frequencies that would jump out in an almost disorganized and manic manner. That being said, I am the proud owner of a pair of Tekton Pendragons which with the optional upgrades, thankfully cured my upgraditis for speakers for years now.
You nailed it! I'm grateful for your comment, the work put into this demo did translate for someone out there, as I heard it in my room. Enjoy those Pen's and thanks for watching. Cheers.
I like the Zu’s clean upper, faster bass just not deep enough. Maybe a sub would really enhance overall performance.
Stand them in a cardboard box give you deep bass, just underneath the tweeter about an inch gap around
I guess the cardboard box would be cheaper!
@@Nick-sk1qp not just cheaper but gives your 6 order bass reflex
Lol, is that wife approved cardboard?
@@2ChannelListening probably not but if you put some birthday rapping on it with love to my wife it might be lol
Strange how the last 2 letters of Uruz backwards spells Zu.
"Uruz is the rune of the aurochs; a great beast similar to the modern day bison that roamed Europe, Asia and North Africa. These powerful, primal creatures are now extinct but nature has provided many other immensely powerful examples for us to work with when connecting with the energy of Uruz."
I liked the acoustic segments better on the Zu but preferred the Vocal parts more on the Tekton
Thanks for watching
The way this video is formatted makes it hard for me to get a real grasp on the differences I’m hearing.
A/B’ing is much more effective if you take 10 or 15 seconds of the same portion of the song and then play those samples back to back from one speaker to the other.
That being said I don’t hear enough of a difference to justify spending more on the Zu. I think the Zu is the more attractive speaker aesthetically speaking as I’m not a fan of ports on the front of speakers but at the end of the day it all comes down to what you care about more and what are you willing to spend?
What was the last song?
Wailin’ Jenny’s: Deeper Well
I would of liked to hear slightly different test music. When mine show up , I will run them through my battery of musical test songs...thanks for the review. 😎
Believe it or not, I tried to play some Rush and Tool. The recordings just weren't good enough, did not have the instrument separation or dynamics of the three songs I used. I did almost go Dream Theater...possible future pick if I do this again.
@@2ChannelListening Try..Trains by Porcupine Tree..that might be better..hopefully..😎...remastered 1
@@2ChannelListening I’d welcome some more popular test songs, like Fleetwood Mac, steely dan, or daft punk, just cause many people know how they should sound. I also really like bon iver sonically and musically.
@@universeman657 fair enough, thanks for the feedback.
Are you still waiting from the April Sale?
For best comparison:
Tekton Uruz 00:17
Zu Audio DW 2:30
Tekton Uruz. 4:35
Zu Audio DW 6:35
Tekton Uruz 5:56
Zu Audio DW 7:55
Tekton Uruz 8:30
Zu Audio DW 11:23
Tekton Uruz 9:56
Zu Audio DW 12:48
Cheers.
Just me or does the Zu lack in mid range?
If im choosing one it would be tektons. I simply can stand zingy sound of zu's, which many with hear damage(this days most of population after 40'-50') describing as detailed or revealing upper range. I think blend between two would be about right.
Oh i forgot: Great sound samples.
Thank you! Tekton Uruz are a terrific underdog. I continue using mine in the bedroom for home theater duty. No center channel required! Appreciate the compliment Majster.
@@2ChannelListening Compliment well deserved. You put together fantastic evaluation setup with room acoustics in mind, where we can clearly hear character of tested speakers👍. And if you have plans to make more demo comparisons, it would be welcomed if you stick with the same sound samples and same setup for easier evaluation. Wish you all the best.
Zu for my money
Different strokes...thanks for viewing.
Tektons sounded more well rounded and definitely like a live stage concert.
You bet. Thanks for listening.
Uruz went deeper and had a more natural, live sound. The Zu had some clarity in the upper end, but it didn't sound realistic at all and could not go as deep. A little harsh in fact. Urus.....was....smooth....er.
GG, you certainly captured most of what I heard. The ZU does have near similar bass output in room, the difference is the mic picks up the front firing ports of the Uruz, where the ZU's bottom finger ports are better distributed and less directional. Thanks for watching.
@garfygarfy01, that's exactly what I heard. Thank you!
What, I’ve got to choose between those two speakers? Lucky fella you are! Great wife!
Ha ha, thank you
I much prefer the Uruz. The highs are too crisp and zingy in the DW. The soundstage is more wide open with the Uruz.
You heard what I experienced first hand...thanks for listening!
What music is that” thanks!!!
2:13 Dire Straights: Private Investigations
4:26 Melody Gardot: March for Mingus
8:29 Wailin Jenny's: Deeper Well
Tektons are giving a soundstage depth that the Zu’s cannot achieve as they seem all forward all the time.
They are pretty equal in sound staging width, but yes, as you pointed out, the more forward character of the ZU makes it harder to notice that. Thanks for watching.
I prefer the Tektons by a wide margin. The Tektons are truer to the source, whereas the Zus project their own personality onto the music and the recording. It is true that some may prefer the Zus' coloration but they don't sound natural or realistic to me. The Zus are also very fatiguing after a short time.
Always depends on the listener. I feel the same way about B&W and Von Schweikert. I can listen to ZU's most of the day, the others I'm done after a few songs. We have interesting reactions and preferences to sound reproduction, my wife reminds me of this fact daily! lol.
I have two sets of Zu's in the house, they are very lively in the way they present. I know with certain DAC's they can sound terrible, veiled or just downright fatiguing. I use vintage Sansui gear with mine, and everyone that has heard them have remarked at how lifelike they sound in the room. The soundstage is huge with very well defined bass, especially when playing vinyl, the speakers disappear, but you can still pick out the instruments, something the Sansui does extremely well. The Sansui units are both very airy and tube like in the midrange, I guess you can call that coloration, but it sounds damn good. The treble or top end, just sweet and smooth to my ear, no fatigue here. Just something about that vintage gear that this new modern gear cannot do, at least none of the equipment I have owned previously.
Tektons sound beautiful ZU sounded bright and forward.
Thanks for watching CS :-)
Both sounded good. But neither were as good as my Lore References playing straight from Tidal!
The Uruz perform better than what you are hearing on your end, I can assure you of that. Thanks for the input, enjoy those Reference.
What can I say, my Infinity reference 31i stays in the game. I have 1500 reasons.
The zu sounded better! Plus you can increase the bass easily on the Zu's you can't do that on the others
Thanks John
Love the Zu sound. The Tektons sound great too, but the DWS have a characteristic liveliness that I find personally more engaging.
Fair enough, I think the sound demo is doing its job with portraying each speakers main characteristics. Thanks Travis.
@@2ChannelListening I have to agree. Though I haven't heard the Tekton in person yet I run DWS mkii with clarity caps and the zoom really did do a good job of giving a pretty honest representation of what the Zus do.
Hmm I see why you liked the Zu’s so much they sound more Alive least on my headset and a little more of that live performance feel. I favor the Zu’s I think.
Based strictly on this video, I'd prefer the Uruz. The Dirty Weekends sounded a bit bright and edgy. I'd think that the Uruz would not be a fatiguing speaker. I don't think I could say the same for the Zu speakers.
Not far from real characteristics, it is all in what your prefer. Thanks for watching.
It would be good to hear some classical or even a piano...to complete to audition.
I can add some piano next time. Thanks.
I prefer the Tekton. They bring me closer to believing I'm at a live event. With the Zu's playing I hear the speakers more. It distracts from believing I'm at a live event. The Zu's are still great but that's the main important difference I noticed.
Thank you for listening.
Zus do not live up to the reputation, i had a lot bigger ekspectations, they sound tame and messy. Tectons surprised me.
Bright ?
Question or declaration?
I came here looking for a review of the Zu`s and discovered that I think the Tekton`s blow away the Zu`s! As far as I can tell on a pair of headphones....
Welcome Ron. Everyone has a different interpretation based on preferences. I ultimately keep what I like better - I'll let that complete my interpretation. Thanks for watching.
I like zu better, sound clearer to me!
Horses of courses.
Thanks for sharing those sound samples!
Sounded terrible to my ears/taste. Maybe it's the very reflective room acoustics or the speakers themselves. My interest in the Zu speakers is suddenly no longer there...
Tbh, it does not make much sense to do this, but okay. I would rather have had your thoughts and opinions than YT compression. Oh well.
Yes and both...I give these a full review video as well. I do eventually stop making music demo videos for exactly the reason you state - too much work, copyright anyway - no real value added for anyone.
@@2ChannelListening please send me the link! Awesome.
@@TheCharlesAtoz 👉 th-cam.com/video/3A7Rge4Xbv4/w-d-xo.html 👍
Thanks for watching
do not understand how you can evaluate audio using digital- sorry , old school
Lol, I could say the same to you...I cannot stand clicks and pops. SACD's are pretty awesome, analogue warmth without the noise. Cheers
sorry, did not mean to come across negative-- , agree that digital has come a long way the last 5 years,--only a handful of our 15k++ LP's make a pop or click, we use a nitty gritty Pro since 1986 and the newer Degritter-- we have about 50-60 cd's that sound very good, but we still beleive analog is the best medium-- we like your channel very much, what microphone are you using ??@@2ChannelListening
@@marantz7783 No worries at all, I didn't take your comment in the negative, I get that remark often enough from the dyed in the wool analogphiles. I lack the patience and time to devote to setting up a clean vinyl rig, moreover, since I have yet to hear a crackle free rig from someone else, I am highly skeptical of the benefits.
The recording mic is a ZOOM H1N unit. Awesome little stereo mic, if a little fussy. Take care.
Man…there are just TOO MANY good speakers out now. Personally, l like the Zu’s better but to me the Tekton represent a greater value for the money.
Yes, past, present and future models, there are so many lovely speakers. Luckily there is plenty of musical enjoyment to be had by most choices.
Tekton have a meatier sound, Zu's have better transients and crisper highs.
Thanks for listening!
Prefer the Tektons
That was my conclusion too.
No bass on the zu
What headphones were you using, just curious. I can assure you the ZU have very usable and nicely integrated bass. Cheers.
Roger's
Not using the same exact music for the demo of each speaker renders this as meaningless. You should have also made the db equal.
What are you talking about, I used the exact same sections of songs for both speakers and made sure to match them within 1 db.
Tekton more depth and better transients. Zu sounds smeared.
Too bad the Tekton are so F'ing ugly lol
In the eye of the beholder
The Tektons are an ugly speaker.
Why they don't spend a few extra dollars
and put a trim ring around the driver
is beyond me...
I don't disagree, it is the homely looking ZU.