Most chinese cars are named like that, some even longer and more "catchy". Also, almost every Russian car has the same name, being "(place) automobile factory" (Avtomoblini Zavod), and every model being (random number), resulting in every russian car name being like GAZ, VAZ, YAZ, KAMAZ, MAZ, UAZ, ILAZ, etc, model 301, 302, 303 etc.
@@hypnotised-clover you are right and wrong at the same time. Regular cars, having 4-digit codename (3-digit earlier), also had normal names. For example: VAZ (= Lada) 2101...07 "Zhiguli" VAZ 2108, 09, 099 "Sputnik", "Samara" VAZ 2113-15 "Samara-2" AZLK 401..408, 2140, 2141 "Moskvitch" IZh (also AZLK) 412 "Moskvitch" GAZ-M20 "Pobeda" GAZ 21, 24, 3102..10 "Volga" ZAZ-965, 966, 968 "Zaporozhets" ZAZ-1102 "Tavria" LuAZ-969 "Volyn' " Heavy vehicles, like MAZ, ZIL, KAMAZ didn't have nicknames - trucks and military vehicles. UAZ was also for military, but they had folk names: UAZ 469 (3151) "kozlik", "bobik" (and later, in Russia, it was manufactured under name "Hunter"), and UAZ 452 (3303) "Bukhanka", "Tabletka".
3:37 The story of AA in Russia actually has been written in detail by Octane Magazine. Even the seller, which is the grandson of the AA owner had no idea what it was and listed it as a "Chevrolet". The most plausible theory on how AA ended up in Siberia is that the owner was a soldier that serves in Manchuria. The car could have been a war booty since Manchuria was occupied by the Japanese since the 1930s and was invaded by the Soviet in 1945. This won't be far fetched since there are stories of German cars brought back to Soviet Union after WW2. If you wonder why the steering wheel is in the left side. It's because the chassis, powertrain and drivetrain has been changed to Russian GAZ. But the body is confirmed by Toyota to be original. Although they are not sure on the extended boot since their documentation didn't show this and yet it is belived to be original
It may sound crazy but apparently a truck version of YUGO exists. As in, not just some sort of fiat under yugo brand but an actual yugo pickup. There is no proper information on wikipedia about it at all and apparently only 2~ of them that have ever been spotted in the US. I’m extremely intrigued about it.
In 1988, Peugeot brought its Oxia concept to Brazil to shoot a promotional film. At that time, the circulation and import of foreign cars was forbidden by the government, so Peugeot worked under a severe veil of secrecy. They hid what they did so well that the footage remains unseen to this day (and is presumed lost).
@alex_darl7637 "We need a country to film our new concept, any suggestions?" "What about Brazil? A place we don't sell our cars, and are forbidden to even ride on the streets?" "Perfect!" Kudos to 80s Peugeot for its extremely sensible and outstandingly bright decision-making.
@@corsicar_ There is a car from Datsun, It is the Datsun VG223, It was a van but sadly 0 has been perserved, This van has been lost media and lost to time but also archived, Only i can found is by looking the photos.
I got recommended your first new video and I thought it was from a Channel with a crazy backlog of great content. @@corsicar_ keep it going dude, because this is genuinely top tier content.
Ive been to the Louwman museum and so ive seen the last Toyoda AA in person it was genuinely amazing to see as its still in the exact same condition as it was when rediscovered
Finally a person that shares my autistic-nerd obsession with obscure automotive subjects, happy to see it. I'm shocked I'm not the last person in the world that remembers that next-gen Opel Corsa developed by GM project. On this matter there are a few interesting, similar situations from the last 20 years. - Hyundai iM30, cancelled in 2010 project of compact MPV, twin model of Kia Carens - Fiat Large, scrapped project of midsize wagon that eventually turned into totally different car, more-like-MPV Croma - Hyundai Portico, cancelled crossover for American market from 2008
Ay, someone that shares my autistic nerd obsession too! Multiple prototype cars have been made in the soviet union yet most remain a mystery as documentation are either kept hidden or lost, companies that once existed going bankrupt, taking their stash of documentation with them to the ground. NAMI especially is a mysterious company as they are a governmental company focused on researching the automotive industry, made multiple prototypes and concepts, numbering each, so far I believe 30 are well known, while the rest (potentially hundreds) are completely lost. NAMI-0173, A fwd volga 24 meant to be used as taxi cabs, experiments deemed it unsuitable. NAMI-0107 A/B, a experiment on the viability of the soviet citizens drivin in fwd cars, the a variant is a heavily modified ZAZ while the B variant is a foreign car (autobianchi primula) with a modified engine, gearbox and design. NAMI-0295 "Rus", is a aerodynamic Euro style semi truck with a 400 HP engine and 4x4 arrangement, looking like a curvier renault ae, the prototype does still exist yet in a horrible state. NAMI-0286 "typhoon", is the older version of the "Rus" made in 1989 (before the renault went into production) and is a box truck variant with a similar design, unlike the "Rus" we don't have the prototype NAMI-053 Turbo, unlike what the name suggests, its not a prototype for a turbocharged car, rather a turbine powered bus in the late 50s, which was deemed a success somewhat due to it running on most types of fuels, yet never went into production due to the noise i believe and the fuel efficiency being bad. NAMI-0290 "orange" was a Peugeot esk group B rally prototype with a mid engine layout, meant to compete, yet never had the chance, the team responsible for its existence dissolved and they took the car apart, throwing it into a landfill. The turbocharger and gearbox is all we have left. These are the more well known ones, most are unknown sadly
I can fully relate! I don't care about the new 1000 hp McLaren bombshell, the supposedly updated BMW or the new micro upgraded Elon Musk car branded as new. What triggers me is the Giuguaro rejected design proposal for the Fiat Uno that ended up serving the Seat Ibiza and the Nissan Micra, I want to know about the obscure Renault X-05, about the story behind the Brazilian Ford Corcel, about the never born Rover R6X or RDX60, or the Innocenti Small, or the bizarre small brands like Scaldia, UMM, Barreiros, DIM, etc.
Another canceled GM project that comes to mind is the Pontiac G8 ST, which would have been a Pontiac branded version of the Holden Ute. Sadly, Pontiac was killed off shortly before the G8 ST would have come to market. A G8 wagon was also considered but that model was never even officially announced.
Correction: The "Toyota AA" is not called Toyota, it is actually called Toyoda, the name was later changed to be easier for westerners to pronounce. The last known Toyoda resides in The Louwman auto museum in The Netherlands.
One lost car brand that I've remembered was Marvia. It was an Indonesian brand that sold replicas like AC Cobra. In the mid-90s, they made a replica of Porsche 911 which was based on Mazda MR90/Baby Boomers (itself was based from 3rd gen Mazda 323). The replica was so good there were rumours that they actually used Porsche parts and components. Allegedly Porsche was so mad about this they canceled plans to sell and manufacture their cars in Indonesia.
Not rumors, some early cars were made using actual Porsche parts. The second one is pure internet invention. Marvia Carrera was launched in 1992/3 predating the whole Porsche-Indomobil saga. The main reason for failed Porsche-Indomobil partnership is 1998 Economic Crisis.
speaking about lost cars, Marcos TSO should be on this list. From being reviewed on Top Gear and compared against Porsche Cayman to completely disappeared in less than 3 years
The owner passed away few years after the TSO launch and there is an article about it with the owner's former partner telling the story in Alternative Cars magazine.
Huh, I think I remember even seeing the Marcos TSO in person at one of the many Marcos car club meets my Dad attended. I want to say I saw it in maybe 2014? Was at a hill climb, same year the XP came over to Britain. Unless I am getting it mixed with another late Marcos.
Hi! I think you would like to know, 4 months ago they found a Pegaso car (Spanish super car from the 50's) lost for more than 70 years. The model name is Pegaso Z-102 Berlineta Saoutchik 1ª Serie and they only made 3 of them with this bodywork of the 80 total Z-102's. The most random thing, is that it belongs to the King of Morocco, who had hidden it in a garage. It was randomly found by a fan in a private tour in a Monarchy garage in Tanger, but he wasnt allowed to take pictures so the car is still not photographed since the 50's ! If you want to see the car you have to look for the magazine "la escuderia" since in google images they only show you the "series II" of the Saoutchik which is really different!
The Chrysler Norseman remains was found on the Andrea Doria's number two cargo hold in 1994 by diver David Bright. By the time it was found, it had disintegrated into a pile of debris with only the wheels still being recognizable
Since everyone else is commenting about their favorites that you didn't mention, here's mine. The 1928 Opel Regent was Opel's attempt to make a luxurious 8-cylinder flagship cruiser that could compete with the likes of Mercedes and Rolls-Royce, but when general motors took over Opel in 1929, they were worried that the car would take away from Cadillac sales. By this point, Opel had made several dozen of these cars and it was ready to go on sale but general motors ordered for all of them to be destroyed. And sadly none of these beautiful cars exist today and only one picture from its unveiling shows what it looked like.
Pre-War stuff is a ridiculously deep rabbit hole of lost automobiles. Entire brands that have been lost to time. Its not impossible for someone to stumble upon random radiator emblems which end up being the only known surviving parts of these machines.
Don't forget that Saab was suppoused to release a hatchback bodystyle for the 9-5 NG, but GM pulled the plug and we know what happened to saab. Sadly, there are only a few images of some test mules. Also, you can find some renders of what could have been the next generation of the Saab 9-3 and there's just one or two pictures of a prototype that looked to be based on those renders.
Some of the preproduction models were saved and registered in Germany. There was an article of a Swedish man who couldn't get his preproduction 9-5 wagon registered in Sweden, so he had it registered in Germany, and because of EU rules on car registrations, the Swedish authorities had to honor the man's request to transfer registration.
When it comes to automotive lost media, test mules in general would be a gold mine since those are obviously meant only for testing and not necessarily meant to even be seen by the public. For instance, the Prangler. The Prangler was a rather cursed looking test mule for the Plymouth Prowler which combined the front of the Prowler with the back half of a Jeep Wrangler. At least two of them existed but what happened to them is unconfirmed.
Reminds me of the Smart Formore story. Sure the concept was actually revealed but the full imagery of the prototype version (Which was actually found beside the concept on a Mercedes-Benz warehouse) never emerged.
About test mule i would want to see honda hsv test mule (if you dont know honda was about to realese v10 nsx succesor but because of being poor at that time they didnt but test mule was spotted on nurburgring name hsv comes from the fact that they realesed this nsx to Super GT Japan Racing series and it was named honda hsv look it up if you want)
Coming from Eastern Europe, there were quite a few concept cars for the Yugoslav brand Zastava. One of them is the Yugo Florida sedan, originally presented in 1999 (before the bombing happened) it was slowly lost to time
From Poland, there was hella lot concept cars that never made it. For example FSO Wars, a hatchback that was designed to compete with the Lada 2108/9 or the Skoda Favorit.
I know that car and saw it! It was lost? Damn...I saw it in Romania in 2000 or so, at the auto show they had, SAB its called or was, dont know anymore.
I have one example I know that wasn't mentioned here. The Skoda Roomster 2, which was cancelled right before reveal, because VW complained that it would compete too much with their VW Caddy. There are a few corporate espionage photos from the factory anonymously leaked to the press and some photos of a wrapped prototype on the road, but that's it.
@@Average_Car_Loverjudging by the photos i can find it's definitely not based on the touran, while the front has it's classic angular styling that you'd expect from Skoda, the rear is almost identical to the Caddy with the exception of the taillights, badging and other little details... As for the mechanics and suspension layout i would guess that they would've left it as is from the caddy.
@@MrBrno I find it more interesting that the 2nd gen Roomster/Praktik would have been based on the Caddy 2K, which is three years older than the gen1 Roomster.
You could also mention Wendax, a german car firm from the fifties that tried selling cheap cars but ultimately failed, selling unreliable and underpowered cars. Most of their cars either weren't shipped out to the customers due to the plant not being able to keep up with the initial demand or got scrapped by the disenchanted owners after purchasing them. For a long time, Wendax was considered lost media, but someone randomly found an abandoned one somewhere on a street. It now sits in a museum, covered in leaves, just like when it was discovered. Staunau was also a german brand with a similar story. A post-war enterpreneur wanted to sell cheap cars to the masses, except this time the car's design was heavily inspired by american luxury cars of the time, which didn't transform well into reality since the body was too heavy for the weak engine the car got outfitted with. There are no surviving examples of the Staunau. Honestly, obscure german cars deserve a video of their own
One of my favourite lost cars is the Skoda 110 Super Sport. Only one prototype was made in 1972, and it was transformed into a prop for the movie Upír z Feratu, where it was given a completely new look. The car can still be found in the Škoda museum in Mladá Boleslav, however it's original look is lost to time
Hi guy from Mexico here. One of favorite examples of lost cars is the Shelby Maverick, so apparently in the 70s someone decided to open a Shelby dealership in Mexico city and commissioned Shelby America the creation of a tuned version of the Maverick which was very popular in Mexico at the time, this cars were meant to be exclusive for Mexican market and around 300 were made. Sadly they were a failure and most of them ended being destroyed, although some cars are known to be still around most of them just look like regular Mavericks because they didn't have a body kit, there's only one car which had a special body kit built by Shelby but is only known by pictures of when the car was presented in the 70s. The car is lost and no one knows if it still exists.
Many years ago I came across what I think was a for sale listing for forlorn looking Eagle Premier (I'm pretty sure it wasn't a Dodge Monaco.). The interesting bit is that this Premier was claimed to have been modified by Carroll Shelby and company in the late '80s, and the modifications included the installation of a turbocharged PRV V6 and maybe a conversion to AWD. Haven't been able to find a single reference to such a car since.
The Amati 1000 is essentially what turned into the Eunos 900/Xedos 9. I had the latter, are quite rare to come by these days but they are phenomenal cars.
I can think of some examples in Indonesia: - The Bakrie Beta 97 MPV. Apparently it went to prototyping stage before it was cancelled - The Maleo. TBH it's not really 100% lost media but IIRC at least 1 sedan prototype ended up in Russia for some reason after the Maleo program was cancelled. The quirky thing about it was set to use a 3 Cylinder 2 stroke engine developed by an Australian company called Orbital plus some other technologies. Also there's a footage of the prototypes on TH-cam somehow (+ 1 test mule based from Rover Metro which survives) - Some Timor prototypes. We all know that the S515 is a rebadge of Kia Sephia but there was a plan to sell the Kia Sportage as Timor J520i which was cancelled due to WTO sanctions and the 1998 monetary crisis. There's also another product that were developed in house by Timor such as the S213i budget hatchback and the Timor Borneo SUV (Which was a rebadged Lamborghini LM003, Also a lost Lamborghini car)
One Maleo prototype/test mule which was based on Rover 100 does exist in Indonesia and still on its place years after being found in a barn. The owner had plans to restore it but since very little are known about this car, it's very unlikely to be restored
3 more concepts that have been lost are the Nissan Bevel, NCS and 2002 Quest concepts which were found in a Nashville scrapyard in March 2022 Also in July 2022 the planned VW Phaeton Mk2 that never came to production was revealed
The Nissan concepts were scrapped because they were rotting away and Nissan didn't have the need to restore these concept cars back to showroom condition.
I love this channel to bits! Thank you so much for making this extremely obscure and fascinating content. The Auto world is a better place because you exist. :)
2:15 I live in Romania and I can say that you rarely see ROCARs here. I don't think I saw more than 10 of these cars in total. And only very few were functional, most of them being abandoned, destroyed or damaged. Most of them are in isolated villages, in abandoned industrial areas or in car graveyards. What a shame...
Nobody cares about them, and when somebody tries, other so called enthusiasts rip them off. I was one that was ripped off. At least I still have thebuses, but thousands of dollars were embezzled, meant to restore the only Rocar 112 that survives, as well as help with the DAC 112UDM, the last Dac ever made. Nobody cares, and I still get weird looks and questions about why, if Im crazy or stupid. Thats Romania these days
@@alexandrudrobos Exact. Macar am inca autobuzele, si le pastrez cum pot, piese de schimb etc, atunci cand o sa am bani, ca interes nu exista. Mai mult interest am avut aici in state cu Dacul decat in tara. Iar pe FB...numai poze doreau, nu povestea, istoria, munca depusa, nema
@@RipRoaringGarageBravo că le întrețineți, ia foarte mult timp sa deții o mașină veche, mai ales când este și foarte rară. Sincer, mi-ar place foarte mult să am o dubiță Rocar, având în vedere cât de rare sunt, dar n-ai ce tare face, în primul rând trebuie să găsești una cât de cât bună. În schimb, am văzut personal foarte multe mașini vechi abandonate, deoarece stau într-un fost oraș minier, iar cum minele s-o închis... Multe vehicule o rămas abandonate, de acolo le știu... :(
@@alexandrudrobos Da, sunt multe si prototipuri apandonate pe platformele miniere, industriale. Na. Mcar ceva TVuri mai noi, gen 12, 14 inca exista. Un prieten bun are una militara, dar plus singulru autobuz TV ramas, functional, un TV-20. Era faimos la un moment dat pe facebook, dar na...de asta ziceam. Interestul dupa ce pozele devin vechi, trece la zero. In Romania nu exista cultura auto. To ce vad, e cultura auto legat de se da mari cu masina, nu cu pasiunea pentru ce o fi special in masina respectiva
Yep, the Lonsdale is another interesting case, but brought in from Australia and not SA. I was planning on covering it but decided that the Sao is probably more obscure and perhaps more interesting of a story
I have been looking for a video like this for years. Especially the part where mass produced cars all but disappear and have no survivors lefts. I would love to see another video about ‘extinct’ or ‘endandgered’ mass produced cars or find a website to learn more about them.
The Pegaso Z-102 Bisiluro could count as a lost car, they tried to break speed records with it and race in Le Mans around 1954, but was proven to not be as good as intended, so all few units were destroyed in 1956, just one engine was found up to this day, and replicas have been tried to be made, but the originals are long gone.
Since you mentioned cars from behind the iron courtain, I have a nice example that wasn’t shown here: FSO Syrena Sport It’s a funny story, Syrena Sport was built as a prototype meant for testing new technologies for the older FSO Syrena. Initially it wasn’t meant to entery production but after showing the prototype off the public loved it (Western Wuropean press called it the best looking car from behind the iron courtain) and there were various companies that actually offered their help in making that car come to live. In the end though, FSO couldn’t afford to make the Syrena Sport enter production so the prototype was parked in their garage never to be seen again. Until some time later during the late 70’s it showed up again and was supposedly destroyed. Supposedly because various parts of the car showed up since then, and it is believed the car might still exist, or that there’s a second prototype that survived until now.
I remember seeing pictures of the three Suzuki Kizashi concepts piled like garbage in some japanese warehouse. There's also lost race cars, like the 2017 Volkswagen Polo GTI WRC or the 2010 Toyota F1, cars basically ready to race that were canned at the last minute.
Not even in 100 years, I would have expected someone from outside of romania to talk about the brand Rocar. Even for romanians that were born before the communist era, rocar is such an obscure brand. Hell, I found out about the brand 2-3 years ago from my colleagues. Everyone knows about the standard brands like Dacia, ARO and Oltcit. But stuff like Rocar, Steagul Rosu (SR) are brands that I'd expect someone that's 50+ to mention.
I believe the TS4 is simply a 3d model someone made of the mysterious coupe and the Tiger TS4 name got attached to it somehow, it’s sadly not the actual car
@@corsicar_ i found it its a 1956 ashley 750 gullwing coupe concept probably made as a collab between ashley and a london based coach builder Anyways have a great day knowing that its no longer lost media
@@Average_Car_Loverits a 1956 ashley 750 gullwing coupe impossible for it to be the tiger because of the shape of the rear door and the general proportion, the tiger is longer by nearly 20cm
@@younesyounes2611 You say there is probably an orange car in the scrap yard, but when you look at the rear fender and door structure, it is obvious that it is not a blue coupe.
I actually cried when I heard that the Furai burnt down. That car has such a special place in my heart through Gran Turismo and Top Gear. A beautiful piece of machinery designed to do nothing except evoke emotion and be a piece of art. The definition of a masterpiece.
the Ford GT90 was lost media until someone found it and restored it, and its currently in my city being displayed for the world to see. and the TVR Project 7/12 was lost media until someone broke into the abandoned tvr factory in blackpool to find it rotting away in plain sight.
This is the stuff I love. Old lost pieces of history that you can only find in old photos and people's memories. Easiest subscription of my life, keep this content up!!
2 other neat additions: -A mysterious mid-engined Group B Audi Quattro rally car of which only *two* photos exist. Its not to be confused with the the _other,_ more rounded Quattro Group S concept rally car still on display at Audi. This one was more in line with the standard Quattro. -The Porsche Experimental Prototype, which appeared to be a comically small rear-engined 928. Porsche had denied that the car had ever existed, despite numerous reports of testing being done nightly on the Autobahn, and a few magazine articles about it. No one is sure what happened to it, as Porsche does not keep it in its vault of prototypes.
Fun fact about that Audi Group S car, a pretty in-depth replica build of that car has recently been completed by EPS Motorsport! They mainly based the entire build on one single toy version of the car they could find, you can check out the entire build on their channel
On the topic of "unreleased cars", the 1970 Holden Torana GTR-X. Holden was very close to go into production, with promo pics, videos, and brochures. 3 litre inline-six, 119kW, 257nm of torque, RWD, 4-speed manual, 1043kg (fibreglass body), 4-wheel disc brakes. 0-100 in around 8.5secs, top speed of 209km/h. 3 examples made (One was crashed for evaluation purposes, one is in the Birdwood Museum, SA, and the third unfinished one (knows as the Lone O'ranger) is being restored.) Reasons for cancellation: Unable to justify high cost of production, competition such as the Datsun 240Z, and Opel GT (under GM at the time). Sources say it was slated for release in February 1973. Imagine if it did.
I found out recently a family member of my wife owned the Lone O'Ranger car - he was the one who bought it at the Holden auction in the '70s. I wish someone would make a replica of that car, it is honestly the best car never built in Australia.
@@simeonyves5940 Could’ve been, though I’ve read sources that say otherwise. Then again, the Super-Car-Super-Scare theory isn’t that far fetched if you ask me.
@@HOLDEN1856 Yeah, it was a big old Panic, Killed the Phase IV Falcon and a Special version of the the Valiant stone dead the Second the "Bullets on Wheels" Headlines hit the store shelves, so they Probably did for the GTR-X as well...
Another worth mentioning is the Lamborghini Miura Jota. Test mule built and designed by Lamborghini chief test driver Bob Wallace because he was bored and wanted to prove a better Miura was possible. Only a couple grainy photos remain of the original that don't show much, and a Lamborghini-built replica called the SVR was built for a client who just kept insisting. That's the one you'll see most when you look up the Jota. Despite being relatively unknown on its own, a lot of car guys know of its impact without realizing because the Aventador SVJ and Aventador Jota, among others, are named after the Miura Jota.
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Something cool I think about while watching these videos is that there is a very very real possibility that someone out there has one of these things that are lost and didn't know they were lost and can now do something about it. How cool would it be to see someone post a video of a Rocar running because of this video?
There are so so many more obscure cars one could consider "lost" or even nobody knows if they still exist. Allcarindex is a highly interesting source. Nice video btw.
Nice video. Was kinda hoping for the Lotus 2010 concepts, which were ambitious to say the least, and never saw the light of day but I'm sure there are other videos that cover them =)
I love this video and its originality, I have never seen another video on youtube on this topic (to my knowledge) and I would absolutely love to see more of it!! It was a very interesting and lovely watch
please man, keep doing this. love the 3 videos you've put out there already(after 9 years lol) these are high quality videos and im currently i wish i had more of your videos to watch
An interesting lost media that gets me thinking often about is Ayrton Senna's pole lap at Monaco 1988, regarded to this day as the most perfect F1 pole lap ever. Still, there's only pictures from that day, not a single video exists. On McLaren's site, they say all cameras around the circuit failed that day, too weird.
On the topic of lost media. There is one video I remember but cannot find anywhere anymore. It was a video I remember seeing in the very beginning of the 2010s of a bus going through mc Donald’s drive through and ripping the roof off. I have never seen it again since it might very well have been a casualty of Google video being killed off and with it there’s that and many other lost media that was on Google video.
My favorite car is probably one of these lost ones: the Dacia MD87, a prototype of a rear engined Dacia 1400 sport (2 door). From what we know, 2 have been made, one with pop up lights, one without.
I have been looking for the original 2011 Scion tC 5Axis concept car that was displayed at the 2010 New York Auto Show. As far as I am aware, this car is lost, and nobody knows its whereabouts. It was last seen at Calty Design Research in 2012, but since then, the car has dissapeared, and its whereabouts are entirely unknown. It was such a beautiful car, and I would love to own it myself. I would love to get detailed 3D scans of the vehicle and look into providing an aftermarket kit for the tC that closely replicates the concept so tC owners can get a chance to drive the car that convinced us to buy a tC in the first place. I am obsessed with Toyota history, and Scion is the most recent piece of Toyota history that I fear will fade into obscurity with time.
I think I can bring two pieces of lost media, but the first one I am not sure if it's lost media is the high-quality photos of the 1996 Goldenbear Sportswear Porsche 911 RSR (the yellow one) that took part in the 1996 All-Japan Grand Touring Car Championship. I'm sure there are the races which shows the car even uploaded into TH-cam, but I hope there's a high-quality photos of it found. I'm not sure if Demodori6 has the high-quality photos of it, but he has the photos of the Goldenbear Sportswear Porsche 993 RS (the green and blue one). Now another lost media piece which could relate to cars is the JTCC game for the PS1, which is unreleased, published by Bullet-Proof Software in 1996. The game is based on the 1995 Japanese Touring Car Championship season which is sponsored by BPS, and it was won by Steve Soper from the BMW Team Schnitzer. I did the mention of the unreleased game on the Wikipedia article about Blue Planet Software which is formerly known as Bullet-Proof Software, and as well mentioning BPS being sponsors of the article about the 1995 season, but someone decided to remove the mentions of it, probably because I forgot the proof. BPS were also publishers of most racing games developed by Genki, such as the three very first Shutokou Battle games; two from the Super Famicom/SNES (Japan-only), one from PlayStation, which is also known as Tokyo Highway Battle in US and Europe. In fact, the unreleased JTCC game even shares the engine from Tokyo Highway Battle.
I was surprised you didnt mentioning the mercedes benz rennwagen schnelltransporter. Originally built in 1954 to delivering mercedes race car to the venue, this weird looking car transporter was powered by 3L m198 inline 6 taken from the w198 300sl and was capable to reach the top speed of 170km/h. Unfortunately, the only one built rennwagen schnelltransporter was scrapped in 1967 until it was authentically rebuilt in 2001 by daimler-mercedes.
The Peugeot 208 CT, a proposed replacement for the 207 CC was prototyped, and it's actually currently on display at the L'aventure Peugeot Museum at Peugeots hometown of Sochaux-Montbéliard. They had it planned to be of a spiritual successor of the 205 CJ, as the 2012 model 208 was technically a spiritual successor to the 205. They practically had the car ready for production, but then decided at the last minute, they will pull the plug due to a restructure of the model line up and with Peugeot pushing to become a premium brand at the time under a new management restructure. Unfortunately the 208 CT project was kept under the radar for over a decade, until Peugeot eventually annouced it happened and showed the prototype to the public from March 2024.
Very very interesting video! You should go into details with another one What about the Artega GT, Bristol Fighter V10, Marcos TSO, DeTomaso Deauville 2011, Toyota GR010 SuperSport Concept? Also the MiTo GTA that got dismantled...
Artega GT isn't lost. I wrote a review on that car and some guy in the comments sent two images of the red Artega that he had spotted in Neuss, Germany
2:45 You're not quite right, I accidentally found an existing car in Russia. There is a post about it on the forum. Also found a surviving ad for sale from 2022. I can send u links, if needed
About the furai, there's an article on the internet that shows a kind of "street legal" or "homologation variant" of the furai, that was only made as an interpretation, not a fully usable model
EV1s still exist, and in working condition with private "owners." Restoring the deactivated ones wouldn't be hard either, as they actually shared their drivetrain in its entirety with the comparatively common Chevy S10e. It is a shame what happened to them though, I've never had the pleasure of working with one, but restoring my two S10 EVs which is about as close as you can legally get to an EV1 has been an absolute joy. Unbelievable build quality, you need only like two screwdrivers to disassemble the thing, and everything is in a sensible easy to reach spot. It's truly a shame what EVs have become with touchscreens and subscription heated seats.
That reminds me - in 2010, there were reports of a new SUV by the Chinese carmaker BYD called the 'T6'. A Chinese forum featured a scan of an image of what the T6 would look like, which was literally a second-generation Porsche Cayenne with a BYD badge on it. It would be powered by a 2.0-litre four-cylinder. The SUV was never released, and nobody knows if Porsche actually took any legal action against them or BYD just dropped the idea entirely.
I just found out about the Top Gear boneyard and it made me so fucking sad. I am aware that they have to dispose of these cars somewhere but i wasn't sure. I wish i still wasn't...
10:14 When you mentioned ɛ̃fini, you made me remind of a memory: I can't tell for sure if it was the case but I was on the highway with my family as a toddler and on this trip, I saw an old or abandoned ɛ̃fini dealership on a road siding the highway. I can't tell if there were any ɛ̃fini dealerships in the province of Québec (where I was during that time) but I remember well that white font with the odd "ɛ̃" on the dealership panel. For some reason, it's a memory that stuck with me forever. Does this have a link to this vid? Probably but I mainly wanted to mention that because it felt appropriate.
There's always an element of me that finds it actually quite sad how some models of car do not exist anymore in a literal sense. Makes me want to preserve the remaining endangered cars as much as possible.
Great video, definitely gonna check out your others. A car I think would be good for a part two is the Lotus Mark 1, it was a modified 1928 Austin Seven built by Colin Chapman in 1947/48. The car was sold in November of 1950 for £135 so he could fund the Mark 2 and thus the car fell off the face of the earth and was never seen again. Lotus are still trying to find it today.
The Blue Coupe is most likely based on a Ford EA38 Popular, Anglia or Prefect, as most 1960's Kit Cars like that were. In Fact, I think it *Might* be a 1957 Tornado Tempest, but with One Off Custom made Gullwing Doors Fitted. In 1963 the MG would most likely have been an MG-A.
There was an Audi Quattro test car with all-wheel steering which was scrapped so far I know. Only some pictures are left of it. Also there was a manufacturer named Nacke in Germany. Only the remains of a chassis are known to be left.
Cars, especially production models that may not exist anymore is such a fascinating topic. Two others for consideration: Lonsdale YD41/45 - A rebadged Aussie-built Mitsubishi Galant Sigma sold in the UK. I'm a bit surprised this didn't make it, since unlike the Sao Penza, this might actually have gone completely extinct. Pretty much the holy grail. Opel Regent - One of the few which are confirmed extinct, as GM bought up all sold examples a year after its premiere and scrapped every single one.
5:15 That blue coupe could very possibly be a Sabra. It’s an Israeli made sports car using old Reliant underpinnings. They were made in 1961 primarily as convertibles but it’s very possible a coupe example was made and exported back to the UK
9:11 We can see here how close it looks to 2018 Buick Excelle, originally intended to be a sedan rebadged of the Opel Corsa ECIT : My bad, I didn't see you talk about it later. Anyway, amazing video :D
this is the same feeling i get when i see really old abandoned trucks and equipment left in remote areas in canada, trucks made by companies ive never heard of, pre 1920 dump trucks, logging trucks with chain drive instead of driveshafts my first thought everytime i see that stuff is "that could be the only one of whatever that is left in the world"
Throughout the video I remembered some cars from my country, Brazil - The Volkswagen SP3 was going to be a successor to the SP2, as you can tell by the name, the SP3 aould have a Santana engine that would be placed in the front, differently from the rear engine from the SP2/SP1, and there were even images of the car on testing, but it never saw the light of day due to reasons - the Chevrolet Chemuniz was going to be a full size luxury sedan from GM from 1958, however there are like 2 or 3 pics of the car in the internet, not even the engine of it is known, however I think it would be a 6.3L engine, judging by the number plate Honorable mention to the 1951 Hoffmann (not exactly a lost media but valid to mention), its a german car built by Micheal Hoffmann, all I'm gonna say is: its the worst car ever created
One thing that I remembered when I watched this video were the streamlined Holland bodied vans from the 1930s. There is also very little information about the company which is a shame.
To me as a huge car nerd (especially when it comes to makes and models, I even have a list of all the brands I know of) these unidentified cars are the most interesting to me. I just want to know!!
Does anyone remember the video of the Carthrottle guys going around the carousel at the Nurburgring? All hanging out of the Amarok? It seems that they have deleted every last trace of it from the interwebs? 🤔
Apart from the TV-4 in Romania there is another interesting lost car, the Dacia MD87. It was a mid-endined Dacia built by the head engineer at that time. Only one was built and it's presumably gone. Also Dacia had other interesting prototypes back in the day.
From what I know there was only one car. Also I remember Cosmescu said it too. The popup headlights one was a facelift inspired by the Mk1 MR2 and it was applied over the CN1 front.
@@RipRoaringGaragewhoa I knew only about the trolleybus variant, I actually have the pictures saved on my phone. Btw loved your series on the DAC and every video on Romanian buses. I remember waiting patiently for a new episode on the DAC. What an undertaking it was shipping it to the US. U got my respect man, hope you're well!
@@Andrewwws7 I guess my comment was deleted. I hate when I write a long thing...just for it go vanish. The short of is, that I tried to do this ambitious plan with the buses, but nobody cared at all. Romanians didnt care. Even less about the mechanical videos working on the bus. Though right now its not running, and rusting away.
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6:09
"resulting in the loss of 50 lives"
"but more importantly"
Glad you caught that too haha
It's literally "Oh no! Anyway".
Damn you already wrote it
bro said that with his whole chest
Came here to comment that's not very nice haha
The most catchy car name I've ever heard. The Changjian JZK6420. Amazing name and amazing proportions
Most chinese cars are named like that, some even longer and more "catchy". Also, almost every Russian car has the same name, being "(place) automobile factory" (Avtomoblini Zavod), and every model being (random number), resulting in every russian car name being like GAZ, VAZ, YAZ, KAMAZ, MAZ, UAZ, ILAZ, etc, model 301, 302, 303 etc.
@@hypnotised-clover Wow, I didn't actually know that. Thanks for the info
@@averageyoutubeuser9483 I felt like mentioning it because of the lack of creativity in the naming of communist cars (at least in the 20th century)
@@hypnotised-clover Makes sense
@@hypnotised-clover you are right and wrong at the same time. Regular cars, having 4-digit codename (3-digit earlier), also had normal names.
For example:
VAZ (= Lada) 2101...07 "Zhiguli"
VAZ 2108, 09, 099 "Sputnik", "Samara"
VAZ 2113-15 "Samara-2"
AZLK 401..408, 2140, 2141 "Moskvitch"
IZh (also AZLK) 412 "Moskvitch"
GAZ-M20 "Pobeda"
GAZ 21, 24, 3102..10 "Volga"
ZAZ-965, 966, 968 "Zaporozhets"
ZAZ-1102 "Tavria"
LuAZ-969 "Volyn' "
Heavy vehicles, like MAZ, ZIL, KAMAZ didn't have nicknames - trucks and military vehicles.
UAZ was also for military, but they had folk names: UAZ 469 (3151) "kozlik", "bobik" (and later, in Russia, it was manufactured under name "Hunter"), and UAZ 452 (3303) "Bukhanka", "Tabletka".
3:37 The story of AA in Russia actually has been written in detail by Octane Magazine.
Even the seller, which is the grandson of the AA owner had no idea what it was and listed it as a "Chevrolet".
The most plausible theory on how AA ended up in Siberia is that the owner was a soldier that serves in Manchuria.
The car could have been a war booty since Manchuria was occupied by the Japanese since the 1930s and was invaded by the Soviet in 1945. This won't be far fetched since there are stories of German cars brought back to Soviet Union after WW2.
If you wonder why the steering wheel is in the left side. It's because the chassis, powertrain and drivetrain has been changed to Russian GAZ.
But the body is confirmed by Toyota to be original. Although they are not sure on the extended boot since their documentation didn't show this and yet it is belived to be original
The aa is now in a museum in the netherlands. Louwman museum
russian shit isnt world class and never has been
That's quite a story for a car!
It may sound crazy but apparently a truck version of YUGO exists. As in, not just some sort of fiat under yugo brand but an actual yugo pickup.
There is no proper information on wikipedia about it at all and apparently only 2~ of them that have ever been spotted in the US. I’m extremely intrigued about it.
I've seen a few chopped into pickups, but I don't think any were officialy built. It may be a Zastava 101-based Zastava Poly pickup however
I was not expecting seeing Jameskii to even get interested in to the video as me.
yo its my favourite russian youtuber
I was in Zemun-Belgrade, Serbia last week and saw one. I have photos of it with a plate number.
@@RADkatesorry if I don’t get it, but why is he Russian?
In 1988, Peugeot brought its Oxia concept to Brazil to shoot a promotional film. At that time, the circulation and import of foreign cars was forbidden by the government, so Peugeot worked under a severe veil of secrecy. They hid what they did so well that the footage remains unseen to this day (and is presumed lost).
What is the sense to shoot a promotional film of anything if people can see you have comitted a crime making it? 😂
@alex_darl7637 "We need a country to film our new concept, any suggestions?"
"What about Brazil? A place we don't sell our cars, and are forbidden to even ride on the streets?"
"Perfect!"
Kudos to 80s Peugeot for its extremely sensible and outstandingly bright decision-making.
Love these uploads, better keep that schedule going (unlike the first 9 years)
I’m quite proud of myself so far
@@corsicar_ Yeah the format of your videos are very cool, can see you growing a lot more in the future
@@corsicar_ There is a car from Datsun, It is the Datsun VG223, It was a van but sadly 0 has been perserved, This van has been lost media and lost to time but also archived, Only i can found is by looking the photos.
I got recommended your first new video and I thought it was from a Channel with a crazy backlog of great content. @@corsicar_ keep it going dude, because this is genuinely top tier content.
@@DrivingGod21 Good.
Ive been to the Louwman museum and so ive seen the last Toyoda AA in person
it was genuinely amazing to see as its still in the exact same condition as it was when rediscovered
Hey ya Nathan
Finally a person that shares my autistic-nerd obsession with obscure automotive subjects, happy to see it. I'm shocked I'm not the last person in the world that remembers that next-gen Opel Corsa developed by GM project. On this matter there are a few interesting, similar situations from the last 20 years.
- Hyundai iM30, cancelled in 2010 project of compact MPV, twin model of Kia Carens
- Fiat Large, scrapped project of midsize wagon that eventually turned into totally different car, more-like-MPV Croma
- Hyundai Portico, cancelled crossover for American market from 2008
Ay, someone that shares my autistic nerd obsession too!
Multiple prototype cars have been made in the soviet union yet most remain a mystery as documentation are either kept hidden or lost, companies that once existed going bankrupt, taking their stash of documentation with them to the ground.
NAMI especially is a mysterious company as they are a governmental company focused on researching the automotive industry, made multiple prototypes and concepts, numbering each, so far I believe 30 are well known, while the rest (potentially hundreds) are completely lost.
NAMI-0173, A fwd volga 24 meant to be used as taxi cabs, experiments deemed it unsuitable.
NAMI-0107 A/B, a experiment on the viability of the soviet citizens drivin in fwd cars, the a variant is a heavily modified ZAZ while the B variant is a foreign car (autobianchi primula) with a modified engine, gearbox and design.
NAMI-0295 "Rus", is a aerodynamic Euro style semi truck with a 400 HP engine and 4x4 arrangement, looking like a curvier renault ae, the prototype does still exist yet in a horrible state.
NAMI-0286 "typhoon", is the older version of the "Rus" made in 1989 (before the renault went into production) and is a box truck variant with a similar design, unlike the "Rus" we don't have the prototype
NAMI-053 Turbo, unlike what the name suggests, its not a prototype for a turbocharged car, rather a turbine powered bus in the late 50s, which was deemed a success somewhat due to it running on most types of fuels, yet never went into production due to the noise i believe and the fuel efficiency being bad.
NAMI-0290 "orange" was a Peugeot esk group B rally prototype with a mid engine layout, meant to compete, yet never had the chance, the team responsible for its existence dissolved and they took the car apart, throwing it into a landfill. The turbocharger and gearbox is all we have left.
These are the more well known ones, most are unknown sadly
Fr like I scour Wikipedia pages all day to find obscure concepts or projects that were completed but never saw their time...
Also don't forget renault samsing px!
I can fully relate! I don't care about the new 1000 hp McLaren bombshell, the supposedly updated BMW or the new micro upgraded Elon Musk car branded as new.
What triggers me is the Giuguaro rejected design proposal for the Fiat Uno that ended up serving the Seat Ibiza and the Nissan Micra, I want to know about the obscure Renault X-05, about the story behind the Brazilian Ford Corcel, about the never born Rover R6X or RDX60, or the Innocenti Small, or the bizarre small brands like Scaldia, UMM, Barreiros, DIM, etc.
Another canceled GM project that comes to mind is the Pontiac G8 ST, which would have been a Pontiac branded version of the Holden Ute. Sadly, Pontiac was killed off shortly before the G8 ST would have come to market. A G8 wagon was also considered but that model was never even officially announced.
Correction: The "Toyota AA" is not called Toyota, it is actually called Toyoda, the name was later changed to be easier for westerners to pronounce. The last known Toyoda resides in The Louwman auto museum in The Netherlands.
Basically still a Toyota with a different name.
One lost car brand that I've remembered was Marvia. It was an Indonesian brand that sold replicas like AC Cobra. In the mid-90s, they made a replica of Porsche 911 which was based on Mazda MR90/Baby Boomers (itself was based from 3rd gen Mazda 323). The replica was so good there were rumours that they actually used Porsche parts and components. Allegedly Porsche was so mad about this they canceled plans to sell and manufacture their cars in Indonesia.
Not rumors, some early cars were made using actual Porsche parts.
The second one is pure internet invention. Marvia Carrera was launched in 1992/3 predating the whole Porsche-Indomobil saga.
The main reason for failed Porsche-Indomobil partnership is 1998 Economic Crisis.
speaking about lost cars, Marcos TSO should be on this list. From being reviewed on Top Gear and compared against Porsche Cayman to completely disappeared in less than 3 years
The owner passed away few years after the TSO launch and there is an article about it with the owner's former partner telling the story in Alternative Cars magazine.
Huh, I think I remember even seeing the Marcos TSO in person at one of the many Marcos car club meets my Dad attended. I want to say I saw it in maybe 2014? Was at a hill climb, same year the XP came over to Britain. Unless I am getting it mixed with another late Marcos.
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Hi! I think you would like to know, 4 months ago they found a Pegaso car (Spanish super car from the 50's) lost for more than 70 years. The model name is Pegaso Z-102 Berlineta Saoutchik 1ª Serie and they only made 3 of them with this bodywork of the 80 total Z-102's. The most random thing, is that it belongs to the King of Morocco, who had hidden it in a garage. It was randomly found by a fan in a private tour in a Monarchy garage in Tanger, but he wasnt allowed to take pictures so the car is still not photographed since the 50's ! If you want to see the car you have to look for the magazine "la escuderia" since in google images they only show you the "series II" of the Saoutchik which is really different!
Damn that’s obscure a f . I wonder how many similar situations exist in various private collections of monarchs and ultra wealthy
The Chrysler Norseman remains was found on the Andrea Doria's number two cargo hold in 1994 by diver David Bright. By the time it was found, it had disintegrated into a pile of debris with only the wheels still being recognizable
Since everyone else is commenting about their favorites that you didn't mention, here's mine. The 1928 Opel Regent was Opel's attempt to make a luxurious 8-cylinder flagship cruiser that could compete with the likes of Mercedes and Rolls-Royce, but when general motors took over Opel in 1929, they were worried that the car would take away from Cadillac sales. By this point, Opel had made several dozen of these cars and it was ready to go on sale but general motors ordered for all of them to be destroyed. And sadly none of these beautiful cars exist today and only one picture from its unveiling shows what it looked like.
GM has a history of crushing cars it seems.
Pre-War stuff is a ridiculously deep rabbit hole of lost automobiles. Entire brands that have been lost to time. Its not impossible for someone to stumble upon random radiator emblems which end up being the only known surviving parts of these machines.
6:09 "resulting in the loss of 50 lives"
"but more importantly" Shit made me choke on my lunch😭
That's exactly what I came to look in comments for.
This channel is such a gem, please keep the vids going!
I’ll keep you mind when we reach youtube stardom
Up we go! @@corsicar_
Don't forget that Saab was suppoused to release a hatchback bodystyle for the 9-5 NG, but GM pulled the plug and we know what happened to saab. Sadly, there are only a few images of some test mules. Also, you can find some renders of what could have been the next generation of the Saab 9-3 and there's just one or two pictures of a prototype that looked to be based on those renders.
Some of the preproduction models were saved and registered in Germany. There was an article of a Swedish man who couldn't get his preproduction 9-5 wagon registered in Sweden, so he had it registered in Germany, and because of EU rules on car registrations, the Swedish authorities had to honor the man's request to transfer registration.
I will never forgive GM for what they did to Saab. A 2003 9-5 in manual was my first car, I loved the hell out of that thing.
When it comes to automotive lost media, test mules in general would be a gold mine since those are obviously meant only for testing and not necessarily meant to even be seen by the public. For instance, the Prangler. The Prangler was a rather cursed looking test mule for the Plymouth Prowler which combined the front of the Prowler with the back half of a Jeep Wrangler. At least two of them existed but what happened to them is unconfirmed.
Reminds me of the Smart Formore story. Sure the concept was actually revealed but the full imagery of the prototype version (Which was actually found beside the concept on a Mercedes-Benz warehouse) never emerged.
About test mule i would want to see honda hsv test mule (if you dont know honda was about to realese v10 nsx succesor but because of being poor at that time they didnt but test mule was spotted on nurburgring name hsv comes from the fact that they realesed this nsx to Super GT Japan Racing series and it was named honda hsv look it up if you want)
Coming from Eastern Europe, there were quite a few concept cars for the Yugoslav brand Zastava. One of them is the Yugo Florida sedan, originally presented in 1999 (before the bombing happened) it was slowly lost to time
From Poland, there was hella lot concept cars that never made it. For example FSO Wars, a hatchback that was designed to compete with the Lada 2108/9 or the Skoda Favorit.
Zastava also had the Florida Caravan, Florida XL, Koral Studija & Z104CD
@@Official_BitzNBobz64 Yeah, the Z104CD is some sort of a more Florida fitting sedan
I know that car and saw it! It was lost? Damn...I saw it in Romania in 2000 or so, at the auto show they had, SAB its called or was, dont know anymore.
@@RipRoaringGarage yea i think it ended up in some village in the balkans, theres even a photo of it sitting on bricks dusted
I have one example I know that wasn't mentioned here.
The Skoda Roomster 2, which was cancelled right before reveal, because VW complained that it would compete too much with their VW Caddy.
There are a few corporate espionage photos from the factory anonymously leaked to the press and some photos of a wrapped prototype on the road, but that's it.
i also saw it being based on the touran
@@Average_Car_Loverjudging by the photos i can find it's definitely not based on the touran, while the front has it's classic angular styling that you'd expect from Skoda, the rear is almost identical to the Caddy with the exception of the taillights, badging and other little details... As for the mechanics and suspension layout i would guess that they would've left it as is from the caddy.
@@nikolabozinovski2041 kinda funny since the caddy and transporter is now the same car as the ford transit/connect
That was a Caddy with a Skoda front. Not really that special but still kinda strange to see.
@@MrBrno I find it more interesting that the 2nd gen Roomster/Praktik would have been based on the Caddy 2K, which is three years older than the gen1 Roomster.
Your video style is so refreshing. I don’t get why so many people feel like car videos should be obnoxiously loud.
You could also mention Wendax, a german car firm from the fifties that tried selling cheap cars but ultimately failed, selling unreliable and underpowered cars. Most of their cars either weren't shipped out to the customers due to the plant not being able to keep up with the initial demand or got scrapped by the disenchanted owners after purchasing them. For a long time, Wendax was considered lost media, but someone randomly found an abandoned one somewhere on a street. It now sits in a museum, covered in leaves, just like when it was discovered. Staunau was also a german brand with a similar story. A post-war enterpreneur wanted to sell cheap cars to the masses, except this time the car's design was heavily inspired by american luxury cars of the time, which didn't transform well into reality since the body was too heavy for the weak engine the car got outfitted with. There are no surviving examples of the Staunau. Honestly, obscure german cars deserve a video of their own
Another obscure car that I can think of is that Mitsubishi Lancer disguised as a Dodge Caliber that spawned in a Chrysler yard
What
Well that's a weird mix lol
One of my favourite lost cars is the Skoda 110 Super Sport. Only one prototype was made in 1972, and it was transformed into a prop for the movie Upír z Feratu, where it was given a completely new look. The car can still be found in the Škoda museum in Mladá Boleslav, however it's original look is lost to time
Jenom Škodovky by asi mohly mít vlastní video :D Těch prototypů a kusovek co se ztratily a už je nikdo nikdy neviděl byly stovky
Hi guy from Mexico here.
One of favorite examples of lost cars is the Shelby Maverick, so apparently in the 70s someone decided to open a Shelby dealership in Mexico city and commissioned Shelby America the creation of a tuned version of the Maverick which was very popular in Mexico at the time, this cars were meant to be exclusive for Mexican market and around 300 were made. Sadly they were a failure and most of them ended being destroyed, although some cars are known to be still around most of them just look like regular Mavericks because they didn't have a body kit, there's only one car which had a special body kit built by Shelby but is only known by pictures of when the car was presented in the 70s. The car is lost and no one knows if it still exists.
Many years ago I came across what I think was a for sale listing for forlorn looking Eagle Premier (I'm pretty sure it wasn't a Dodge Monaco.). The interesting bit is that this Premier was claimed to have been modified by Carroll Shelby and company in the late '80s, and the modifications included the installation of a turbocharged PRV V6 and maybe a conversion to AWD. Haven't been able to find a single reference to such a car since.
The Amati 1000 is essentially what turned into the Eunos 900/Xedos 9. I had the latter, are quite rare to come by these days but they are phenomenal cars.
The Amati 1000 was basically the Ancestor of the Mazda Sentia. The Xedos 9 was planned to be called the Amati 500.
I can think of some examples in Indonesia:
- The Bakrie Beta 97 MPV. Apparently it went to prototyping stage before it was cancelled
- The Maleo. TBH it's not really 100% lost media but IIRC at least 1 sedan prototype ended up in Russia for some reason after the Maleo program was cancelled. The quirky thing about it was set to use a 3 Cylinder 2 stroke engine developed by an Australian company called Orbital plus some other technologies. Also there's a footage of the prototypes on TH-cam somehow (+ 1 test mule based from Rover Metro which survives)
- Some Timor prototypes. We all know that the S515 is a rebadge of Kia Sephia but there was a plan to sell the Kia Sportage as Timor J520i which was cancelled due to WTO sanctions and the 1998 monetary crisis. There's also another product that were developed in house by Timor such as the S213i budget hatchback and the Timor Borneo SUV (Which was a rebadged Lamborghini LM003, Also a lost Lamborghini car)
Hello fellow Indonesian car-nerd!
One Maleo prototype/test mule which was based on Rover 100 does exist in Indonesia and still on its place years after being found in a barn. The owner had plans to restore it but since very little are known about this car, it's very unlikely to be restored
I saw your page from car throttle
@@emdotrod I've got a picture of it in my pc files
Pawma XL300
Obscure L300 based kit car
Eureka kit car
One of lost kit car in Indonesia
3 more concepts that have been lost are the Nissan Bevel, NCS and 2002 Quest concepts which were found in a Nashville scrapyard in March 2022
Also in July 2022 the planned VW Phaeton Mk2 that never came to production was revealed
The Nissan concepts were scrapped because they were rotting away and Nissan didn't have the need to restore these concept cars back to showroom condition.
instead of Phaeton, we received Phideon, but only in China.
I love this channel to bits! Thank you so much for making this extremely obscure and fascinating content. The Auto world is a better place because you exist. :)
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2:15 I live in Romania and I can say that you rarely see ROCARs here. I don't think I saw more than 10 of these cars in total. And only very few were functional, most of them being abandoned, destroyed or damaged. Most of them are in isolated villages, in abandoned industrial areas or in car graveyards. What a shame...
Nobody cares about them, and when somebody tries, other so called enthusiasts rip them off. I was one that was ripped off. At least I still have thebuses, but thousands of dollars were embezzled, meant to restore the only Rocar 112 that survives, as well as help with the DAC 112UDM, the last Dac ever made. Nobody cares, and I still get weird looks and questions about why, if Im crazy or stupid.
Thats Romania these days
@@RipRoaringGarage Îi așa de adevărat... / It's so true...
@@alexandrudrobos Exact. Macar am inca autobuzele, si le pastrez cum pot, piese de schimb etc, atunci cand o sa am bani, ca interes nu exista. Mai mult interest am avut aici in state cu Dacul decat in tara. Iar pe FB...numai poze doreau, nu povestea, istoria, munca depusa, nema
@@RipRoaringGarageBravo că le întrețineți, ia foarte mult timp sa deții o mașină veche, mai ales când este și foarte rară. Sincer, mi-ar place foarte mult să am o dubiță Rocar, având în vedere cât de rare sunt, dar n-ai ce tare face, în primul rând trebuie să găsești una cât de cât bună.
În schimb, am văzut personal foarte multe mașini vechi abandonate, deoarece stau într-un fost oraș minier, iar cum minele s-o închis... Multe vehicule o rămas abandonate, de acolo le știu... :(
@@alexandrudrobos Da, sunt multe si prototipuri apandonate pe platformele miniere, industriale. Na. Mcar ceva TVuri mai noi, gen 12, 14 inca exista. Un prieten bun are una militara, dar plus singulru autobuz TV ramas, functional, un TV-20. Era faimos la un moment dat pe facebook, dar na...de asta ziceam. Interestul dupa ce pozele devin vechi, trece la zero. In Romania nu exista cultura auto. To ce vad, e cultura auto legat de se da mari cu masina, nu cu pasiunea pentru ce o fi special in masina respectiva
The Lonsdale springs to mind - similar story to the Sao Penza, except there are no known survivors and it based on the Mitsubishi Sigma.
Yep, the Lonsdale is another interesting case, but brought in from Australia and not SA. I was planning on covering it but decided that the Sao is probably more obscure and perhaps more interesting of a story
I have been waiting for a Car lost media video for a long time, especially extinct/lost vehicles. I can't believe it's finally real.
I have been looking for a video like this for years. Especially the part where mass produced cars all but disappear and have no survivors lefts. I would love to see another video about ‘extinct’ or ‘endandgered’ mass produced cars or find a website to learn more about them.
in your last sentance, 1st gen tauruses, olds aurora's, and suzuki kizashi's qualify
The Pegaso Z-102 Bisiluro could count as a lost car, they tried to break speed records with it and race in Le Mans around 1954, but was proven to not be as good as intended, so all few units were destroyed in 1956, just one engine was found up to this day, and replicas have been tried to be made, but the originals are long gone.
Since you mentioned cars from behind the iron courtain, I have a nice example that wasn’t shown here: FSO Syrena Sport
It’s a funny story, Syrena Sport was built as a prototype meant for testing new technologies for the older FSO Syrena. Initially it wasn’t meant to entery production but after showing the prototype off the public loved it (Western Wuropean press called it the best looking car from behind the iron courtain) and there were various companies that actually offered their help in making that car come to live. In the end though, FSO couldn’t afford to make the Syrena Sport enter production so the prototype was parked in their garage never to be seen again. Until some time later during the late 70’s it showed up again and was supposedly destroyed. Supposedly because various parts of the car showed up since then, and it is believed the car might still exist, or that there’s a second prototype that survived until now.
I remember seeing pictures of the three Suzuki Kizashi concepts piled like garbage in some japanese warehouse. There's also lost race cars, like the 2017 Volkswagen Polo GTI WRC or the 2010 Toyota F1, cars basically ready to race that were canned at the last minute.
Why would they do that to the kısası? Such a good looking car
Not even in 100 years, I would have expected someone from outside of romania to talk about the brand Rocar.
Even for romanians that were born before the communist era, rocar is such an obscure brand. Hell, I found out about the brand 2-3 years ago from my colleagues. Everyone knows about the standard brands like Dacia, ARO and Oltcit. But stuff like Rocar, Steagul Rosu (SR) are brands that I'd expect someone that's 50+ to mention.
At 5:30, people on the internet figured it was a Sunbeam Tiger ts4 concept, looking at the pictures, I think it makes sense!
yeah, definetly the sunbean. however, the image fromt hat british book might be the only irl cptured image of it
I believe the TS4 is simply a 3d model someone made of the mysterious coupe and the Tiger TS4 name got attached to it somehow, it’s sadly not the actual car
@@corsicar_ i found it its a 1956 ashley 750 gullwing coupe concept probably made as a collab between ashley and a london based coach builder
Anyways have a great day knowing that its no longer lost media
@@Average_Car_Loverits a 1956 ashley 750 gullwing coupe impossible for it to be the tiger because of the shape of the rear door and the general proportion, the tiger is longer by nearly 20cm
@@younesyounes2611 You say there is probably an orange car in the scrap yard, but when you look at the rear fender and door structure, it is obvious that it is not a blue coupe.
I actually cried when I heard that the Furai burnt down. That car has such a special place in my heart through Gran Turismo and Top Gear. A beautiful piece of machinery designed to do nothing except evoke emotion and be a piece of art. The definition of a masterpiece.
it still has hope, since it's not smashed, it just needs a repaint, new interior, new wiring & whatever else.
the Ford GT90 was lost media until someone found it and restored it, and its currently in my city being displayed for the world to see. and the TVR Project 7/12 was lost media until someone broke into the abandoned tvr factory in blackpool to find it rotting away in plain sight.
Can I ask the source of what you said about TVR?
@@sasbles7668 TVR Blog and the guy sitting next to me on the plane to England who knew an ex-factory worker.
This is the stuff I love. Old lost pieces of history that you can only find in old photos and people's memories. Easiest subscription of my life, keep this content up!!
2 other neat additions:
-A mysterious mid-engined Group B Audi Quattro rally car of which only *two* photos exist. Its not to be confused with the the _other,_ more rounded Quattro Group S concept rally car still on display at Audi. This one was more in line with the standard Quattro.
-The Porsche Experimental Prototype, which appeared to be a comically small rear-engined 928. Porsche had denied that the car had ever existed, despite numerous reports of testing being done nightly on the Autobahn, and a few magazine articles about it. No one is sure what happened to it, as Porsche does not keep it in its vault of prototypes.
Fun fact about that Audi Group S car, a pretty in-depth replica build of that car has recently been completed by EPS Motorsport! They mainly based the entire build on one single toy version of the car they could find, you can check out the entire build on their channel
Please don't stop making these. It makes my Autistic heart very happy.
Great video yet again corsicar! I'd love to see the opposite to your shortest production runs video and look at the longest, Keep it up!
On the topic of "unreleased cars", the 1970 Holden Torana GTR-X. Holden was very close to go into production, with promo pics, videos, and brochures.
3 litre inline-six, 119kW, 257nm of torque, RWD, 4-speed manual, 1043kg (fibreglass body), 4-wheel disc brakes. 0-100 in around 8.5secs, top speed of 209km/h.
3 examples made (One was crashed for evaluation purposes, one is in the Birdwood Museum, SA, and the third unfinished one (knows as the Lone O'ranger) is being restored.)
Reasons for cancellation: Unable to justify high cost of production, competition such as the Datsun 240Z, and Opel GT (under GM at the time).
Sources say it was slated for release in February 1973. Imagine if it did.
I found out recently a family member of my wife owned the Lone O'Ranger car - he was the one who bought it at the Holden auction in the '70s.
I wish someone would make a replica of that car, it is honestly the best car never built in Australia.
@@blakedounan-dew8967 Mate, that's so cool to know that fact. And I do agree that it is the best car never built in Australia.
I thought the GTR-X was killed off by the Great Australian Super-Car Super-Scare?
@@simeonyves5940 Could’ve been, though I’ve read sources that say otherwise. Then again, the Super-Car-Super-Scare theory isn’t that far fetched if you ask me.
@@HOLDEN1856 Yeah, it was a big old Panic, Killed the Phase IV Falcon and a Special version of the the Valiant stone dead the Second the "Bullets on Wheels" Headlines hit the store shelves, so they Probably did for the GTR-X as well...
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Another worth mentioning is the Lamborghini Miura Jota. Test mule built and designed by Lamborghini chief test driver Bob Wallace because he was bored and wanted to prove a better Miura was possible. Only a couple grainy photos remain of the original that don't show much, and a Lamborghini-built replica called the SVR was built for a client who just kept insisting. That's the one you'll see most when you look up the Jota. Despite being relatively unknown on its own, a lot of car guys know of its impact without realizing because the Aventador SVJ and Aventador Jota, among others, are named after the Miura Jota.
Seriously, your videos are awesome. When I first discovered you, I thought you’d have a lot more subs, but you only had 1-2 videos uploaded. I see a big future for your channel because you have unique editing and a unique way of explaining and planning your Videos. Keep it up 🙌
Seriously one of my favorite videos on the platform, keep it up!
Something cool I think about while watching these videos is that there is a very very real possibility that someone out there has one of these things that are lost and didn't know they were lost and can now do something about it. How cool would it be to see someone post a video of a Rocar running because of this video?
There are so so many more obscure cars one could consider "lost" or even nobody knows if they still exist. Allcarindex is a highly interesting source. Nice video btw.
Nice video. Was kinda hoping for the Lotus 2010 concepts, which were ambitious to say the least, and never saw the light of day but I'm sure there are other videos that cover them =)
I love this video and its originality, I have never seen another video on youtube on this topic (to my knowledge) and I would absolutely love to see more of it!! It was a very interesting and lovely watch
The SAO Penza is the ultimate Festival Of The Unexceptional car
please man, keep doing this. love the 3 videos you've put out there already(after 9 years lol) these are high quality videos and im currently i wish i had more of your videos to watch
An interesting lost media that gets me thinking often about is Ayrton Senna's pole lap at Monaco 1988, regarded to this day as the most perfect F1 pole lap ever. Still, there's only pictures from that day, not a single video exists.
On McLaren's site, they say all cameras around the circuit failed that day, too weird.
On the topic of lost media. There is one video I remember but cannot find anywhere anymore. It was a video I remember seeing in the very beginning of the 2010s of a bus going through mc Donald’s drive through and ripping the roof off. I have never seen it again since it might very well have been a casualty of Google video being killed off and with it there’s that and many other lost media that was on Google video.
Only 3 videos? These are the best 3 car videos ive ever seen
Finally this kind of content appears, i love how its edited and narrated. Hopefully you make part 2 of it!
My favorite car is probably one of these lost ones: the Dacia MD87, a prototype of a rear engined Dacia 1400 sport (2 door). From what we know, 2 have been made, one with pop up lights, one without.
it would be cool to have smth like a part 2 if there's more stuff
I have been looking for the original 2011 Scion tC 5Axis concept car that was displayed at the 2010 New York Auto Show. As far as I am aware, this car is lost, and nobody knows its whereabouts.
It was last seen at Calty Design Research in 2012, but since then, the car has dissapeared, and its whereabouts are entirely unknown. It was such a beautiful car, and I would love to own it myself. I would love to get detailed 3D scans of the vehicle and look into providing an aftermarket kit for the tC that closely replicates the concept so tC owners can get a chance to drive the car that convinced us to buy a tC in the first place.
I am obsessed with Toyota history, and Scion is the most recent piece of Toyota history that I fear will fade into obscurity with time.
I think I can bring two pieces of lost media, but the first one I am not sure if it's lost media is the high-quality photos of the 1996 Goldenbear Sportswear Porsche 911 RSR (the yellow one) that took part in the 1996 All-Japan Grand Touring Car Championship. I'm sure there are the races which shows the car even uploaded into TH-cam, but I hope there's a high-quality photos of it found. I'm not sure if Demodori6 has the high-quality photos of it, but he has the photos of the Goldenbear Sportswear Porsche 993 RS (the green and blue one).
Now another lost media piece which could relate to cars is the JTCC game for the PS1, which is unreleased, published by Bullet-Proof Software in 1996. The game is based on the 1995 Japanese Touring Car Championship season which is sponsored by BPS, and it was won by Steve Soper from the BMW Team Schnitzer. I did the mention of the unreleased game on the Wikipedia article about Blue Planet Software which is formerly known as Bullet-Proof Software, and as well mentioning BPS being sponsors of the article about the 1995 season, but someone decided to remove the mentions of it, probably because I forgot the proof. BPS were also publishers of most racing games developed by Genki, such as the three very first Shutokou Battle games; two from the Super Famicom/SNES (Japan-only), one from PlayStation, which is also known as Tokyo Highway Battle in US and Europe. In fact, the unreleased JTCC game even shares the engine from Tokyo Highway Battle.
I was surprised you didnt mentioning the mercedes benz rennwagen schnelltransporter. Originally built in 1954 to delivering mercedes race car to the venue, this weird looking car transporter was powered by 3L m198 inline 6 taken from the w198 300sl and was capable to reach the top speed of 170km/h. Unfortunately, the only one built rennwagen schnelltransporter was scrapped in 1967 until it was authentically rebuilt in 2001 by daimler-mercedes.
This video is amazing, keep up the great work man! I love hearing these obscure car stories and I hope you do another one of these!
The Peugeot 208 CT, a proposed replacement for the 207 CC was prototyped, and it's actually currently on display at the L'aventure Peugeot Museum at Peugeots hometown of Sochaux-Montbéliard. They had it planned to be of a spiritual successor of the 205 CJ, as the 2012 model 208 was technically a spiritual successor to the 205. They practically had the car ready for production, but then decided at the last minute, they will pull the plug due to a restructure of the model line up and with Peugeot pushing to become a premium brand at the time under a new management restructure. Unfortunately the 208 CT project was kept under the radar for over a decade, until Peugeot eventually annouced it happened and showed the prototype to the public from March 2024.
Very very interesting video!
You should go into details with another one
What about the Artega GT, Bristol Fighter V10, Marcos TSO, DeTomaso Deauville 2011, Toyota GR010 SuperSport Concept? Also the MiTo GTA that got dismantled...
Artega GT isn't lost. I wrote a review on that car and some guy in the comments sent two images of the red Artega that he had spotted in Neuss, Germany
@@lotuwei but it's s rare af. Only saw one in my life (I have some pics), about 150 cars made.
@@mauromolinari99 153, if to be more exact
Finally someone who made this kind of video!🙏🙏🙏
2:45 You're not quite right, I accidentally found an existing car in Russia. There is a post about it on the forum. Also found a surviving ad for sale from 2022. I can send u links, if needed
I'd be glad to have a look
Id like to see those too. What forum is that? A Russian or Romanian one?
About the furai, there's an article on the internet that shows a kind of "street legal" or "homologation variant" of the furai, that was only made as an interpretation, not a fully usable model
Amati is one of my the biggest what ifs of that era imo. They would’ve absolutely killed the market considering how nice the millennia was.
Been waiting for this kind of video for years. production cars that exist and then no longer exist, are exactly the reason why I own my plymouth tc3!
If you do another video like this, please talk about the "mystery fiberglass car" that was in a few old pictures of a junkyard in Alaska.
The chevy ev1 could definitely be considered lost media…er…car. But that story is pretty well documented
There are EV-1s in some museums and universities, but had their electronics permanently disabled so they can never be driven on original hardware.
EV1s still exist, and in working condition with private "owners." Restoring the deactivated ones wouldn't be hard either, as they actually shared their drivetrain in its entirety with the comparatively common Chevy S10e. It is a shame what happened to them though, I've never had the pleasure of working with one, but restoring my two S10 EVs which is about as close as you can legally get to an EV1 has been an absolute joy. Unbelievable build quality, you need only like two screwdrivers to disassemble the thing, and everything is in a sensible easy to reach spot. It's truly a shame what EVs have become with touchscreens and subscription heated seats.
That reminds me - in 2010, there were reports of a new SUV by the Chinese carmaker BYD called the 'T6'. A Chinese forum featured a scan of an image of what the T6 would look like, which was literally a second-generation Porsche Cayenne with a BYD badge on it. It would be powered by a 2.0-litre four-cylinder. The SUV was never released, and nobody knows if Porsche actually took any legal action against them or BYD just dropped the idea entirely.
I just found out about the Top Gear boneyard and it made me so fucking sad. I am aware that they have to dispose of these cars somewhere but i wasn't sure. I wish i still wasn't...
except they *don't* have to, not all of them were crashed
10:14 When you mentioned ɛ̃fini, you made me remind of a memory:
I can't tell for sure if it was the case but I was on the highway with my family as a toddler and on this trip, I saw an old or abandoned ɛ̃fini dealership on a road siding the highway. I can't tell if there were any ɛ̃fini dealerships in the province of Québec (where I was during that time) but I remember well that white font with the odd "ɛ̃" on the dealership panel. For some reason, it's a memory that stuck with me forever.
Does this have a link to this vid? Probably but I mainly wanted to mention that because it felt appropriate.
There's always an element of me that finds it actually quite sad how some models of car do not exist anymore in a literal sense. Makes me want to preserve the remaining endangered cars as much as possible.
1st gen tauruses and auroras are my favorite "close to nonexistant" cars
Great video, definitely gonna check out your others. A car I think would be good for a part two is the Lotus Mark 1, it was a modified 1928 Austin Seven built by Colin Chapman in 1947/48. The car was sold in November of 1950 for £135 so he could fund the Mark 2 and thus the car fell off the face of the earth and was never seen again. Lotus are still trying to find it today.
The Blue Coupe is most likely based on a Ford EA38 Popular, Anglia or Prefect, as most 1960's Kit Cars like that were.
In Fact, I think it *Might* be a 1957 Tornado Tempest, but with One Off Custom made Gullwing Doors Fitted.
In 1963 the MG would most likely have been an MG-A.
Mazda Furai mentioned..... now my day is sad
In 2001 the greek defense company ELVO decided to make a car called ELVO Aletis in cooperation with a German company but only one prototype was made
Nothing civilian Elvo made exists anymore. Was trying to buy an ELVO bus...but all were scrapped, even the prototype of the SB220 line
There was an Audi Quattro test car with all-wheel steering which was scrapped so far I know. Only some pictures are left of it.
Also there was a manufacturer named Nacke in Germany. Only the remains of a chassis are known to be left.
5:24 That car I think has been matched with a Sunbeam Tiger/Alpine TS4 Project
Cars, especially production models that may not exist anymore is such a fascinating topic.
Two others for consideration:
Lonsdale YD41/45 - A rebadged Aussie-built Mitsubishi Galant Sigma sold in the UK. I'm a bit surprised this didn't make it, since unlike the Sao Penza, this might actually have gone completely extinct. Pretty much the holy grail.
Opel Regent - One of the few which are confirmed extinct, as GM bought up all sold examples a year after its premiere and scrapped every single one.
5:15 That blue coupe could very possibly be a Sabra. It’s an Israeli made sports car using old Reliant underpinnings. They were made in 1961 primarily as convertibles but it’s very possible a coupe example was made and exported back to the UK
4:08 I think is a kia pride combi with a 1995 Nissan Sentra front end glued onto it.
9:11 We can see here how close it looks to 2018 Buick Excelle, originally intended to be a sedan rebadged of the Opel Corsa
ECIT : My bad, I didn't see you talk about it later. Anyway, amazing video :D
Combining two of my favorite subjects. Love this!
this is the same feeling i get when i see really old abandoned trucks and equipment left in remote areas in canada, trucks made by companies ive never heard of, pre 1920 dump trucks, logging trucks with chain drive instead of driveshafts my first thought everytime i see that stuff is "that could be the only one of whatever that is left in the world"
Throughout the video I remembered some cars from my country, Brazil
- The Volkswagen SP3 was going to be a successor to the SP2, as you can tell by the name, the SP3 aould have a Santana engine that would be placed in the front, differently from the rear engine from the SP2/SP1, and there were even images of the car on testing, but it never saw the light of day due to reasons
- the Chevrolet Chemuniz was going to be a full size luxury sedan from GM from 1958, however there are like 2 or 3 pics of the car in the internet, not even the engine of it is known, however I think it would be a 6.3L engine, judging by the number plate
Honorable mention to the 1951 Hoffmann (not exactly a lost media but valid to mention), its a german car built by Micheal Hoffmann, all I'm gonna say is: its the worst car ever created
Less of an Obscure case, since it was publizied at the time, but the GM EV-1 situation comes to mind
One thing that I remembered when I watched this video were the streamlined Holland bodied vans from the 1930s. There is also very little information about the company which is a shame.
I love this channel! Awesome content and storytelling!
5:27 I believe its one of the early Saab Sonnets in the 1968 "Blue metallic" color
To me as a huge car nerd (especially when it comes to makes and models, I even have a list of all the brands I know of) these unidentified cars are the most interesting to me. I just want to know!!
I really wish Mazda would rebuild the Furai. That car was gorgeous!
Does anyone remember the video of the Carthrottle guys going around the carousel at the Nurburgring? All hanging out of the Amarok?
It seems that they have deleted every last trace of it from the interwebs? 🤔
Consistent bangers from the Corsicar channel, love it
Apart from the TV-4 in Romania there is another interesting lost car, the Dacia MD87. It was a mid-endined Dacia built by the head engineer at that time. Only one was built and it's presumably gone. Also Dacia had other interesting prototypes back in the day.
I thought there were two. The red one with the terrible nose with the popup lights, and the white one with the CN1 nose
Though the most lost of all lost Romanian vehicles is the double articulated bus, not trolleybus, but a diesel. Not even photos remain
From what I know there was only one car. Also I remember Cosmescu said it too. The popup headlights one was a facelift inspired by the Mk1 MR2 and it was applied over the CN1 front.
@@RipRoaringGaragewhoa I knew only about the trolleybus variant, I actually have the pictures saved on my phone. Btw loved your series on the DAC and every video on Romanian buses. I remember waiting patiently for a new episode on the DAC. What an undertaking it was shipping it to the US. U got my respect man, hope you're well!
@@Andrewwws7 I guess my comment was deleted. I hate when I write a long thing...just for it go vanish.
The short of is, that I tried to do this ambitious plan with the buses, but nobody cared at all. Romanians didnt care. Even less about the mechanical videos working on the bus. Though right now its not running, and rusting away.