I think something else that people should remember is that stockholm capsules have a 5x higher chance of getting holos. As most people will open capsules for the holos and golds, peopel would rather open stockholm, as they have a 5x higher chance to get holos compared to Antwerp.
Yeap and my guess is that this will make stockholm capsules and antwerp holos (original ones at least) valuable as there would need to be more antwerp capsules open than RMR to match stockholm holos in numbers. On the other hand antwerp capsules and glitters will most likely be cheap.
@@cansore Yes because holo have always been more in demand... Saying rarity doesn't matter is silly, as well, rarity does matter. Higher rarity means less supply, and stockholm like holos will have very high demand. In terms of unboxing, people would most likley choose stockholm over antwerp(unless for some reason they really want to get glitter), as the holos for stockholm are 5x easier to get.
@@ryNNwth Yes they should be, however, the key part is that both antwerp and stockholm have exactly the same holo. Most normal people won't see them and choose one over another usually, it is, in most cases, going to be exactly the same for most people. As the holo effects are pretty much the same, and they look good on the exact same gun crafts.
i really enjoyed this video, and i havent been in the cs trading scene for a while but i was able to understand what you were saying. thanks! you earned a sub from me
I don't think the next major will have a similar design because it will be different organizer. Remember elague had two majors a year apart and used similar designs. Same with ESL I mean kato 15's are copy paste kato 14's.
I think glitter effects are a bit overhyped. The effect looks good when inspecting the sticker in inventory, but when applied, the effect is almost invisible. I am going to invest only a little bit in those capsules as i expect that people will eventually get disappointed by them.
It's been pretty clear for awhile now that Valve doesn't care about our "investments". And why would they? Valve is interested in selling stuff. Capsules, souvenir packages, case keys etc. The scm sales fee is not the most profitable sector of their business. When an item becomes rare, it will be traded more on the third party sites than on scm. So yeah, Valve has no reason to worry about making anything "profitable" for us; they're not an investment firm, they're retailers who happen to "manufacture" their own products, which costs them no more than the electricity bill and a few workers worth of wages. It's the perfect business.
Souvenir stickers were already perfect since 2015 Cologne. Valve just won't admit it. If they want to keep the map stickers, then either remove the tournament sticker OR the opposing team sticker.
I think that antwer will grow due to the rarity of holographic stickers, as well as new stickers of teams that are not in stockholm: cloud 9, imperial, 9z, outsider
I believe that these videos talking about how the Antwerp supply could be inflated could have the same effect on the amount of stickers as the warnings during Stockholm, this is just speculation but might be something to think about
It could but I feel like people won't be as willing to pass this time but if that seems to be the general trend then maybe. I don't really watch any other cs youtubers so I have no idea if this opinion is shared outside of Twitter
I would hope so but we need to see what happens with the next major. If we have fully transitioned to borderless stickers I don't care about the potential of them anymore
here's my personal roadmap. Antwerp sale comes -> buy stockholm hoping there's a dip but we shall see -> wait for supply numbers and buy antwerp if good. I think selling stockholm in the next few months would be a mistake
@@ObiiWanKenobii it would be the tiniest csgo flaw, there are much more things that matter way more then glitter rarity or introducing a new type of stickers But its ea, i mean valve
Valve may lose money as they take a percentage of market sale meaning the higher the price the more Valve takes...idk the math though you'd have to do it yourself
golds are very similar so they took the larger hit, could secure profits before the sale or hold and hope that either it has a very minimal dip or a fast and strong recovery. If I was in your position I would wait for a little price spike and sell since stockholm is starting to rise again
Do you think were in a bubble? I’ve been thinking about buying 3 pieces of the kato 15’s holo stickers, however its just so worrying that this is all a bubble that might burst soon, and my investment is all gone, its the only thing stopping me from going big…
Honestly just take the money and invest in stock. You will definitely make more, and with lower risk. Or you can just buy some skins and do trading. That’s probably better than investing Kato15.
@@Bagel692 im really uneducated on stocks, ive traded crypto and nft’s for years now, but stocks lol. I heard energy company stocks are a good buy for now.
@@belishcyzon9317 well if you do great with nfts and crypto, forget what I just said. What I meant was that if you just want to put your money somewhere and let it grow you should invest in stable stock which usually grows faster than kato 15. But you mentioned that you have experience with crypto and nfts. you might just do that, you will probably make more than 3x kato15s in a short time. Although there is only a little chance that kato will crash, the chance is still higher than stocks like apple or google. so yeah!
I have $500 on steam that will be going to the new major. It will be a good balance transfer as buying stockholm on steam you're overpaying quite heavily. If I didn't have steam balance locked my antwerp investment would be very minimal but that's just me personally. Need to wait for supply numbers
@@ptreeNA i was planintg to 50/50 it, when the sale starts buy both, cuz stocholm will dip again, and buy antwerp cuz no way the capsules stay the same
i prefer foil stickers.. glitter looks like a normal sticker in game.. horrible, the only way to look at them and say "nice" is having them in your inventory.. useless
bad take from valve, foils were way better imo they should keep the foils inbetween holos and glitters, making them rarer than glitters but not as rare as holos
then there would be industrial grade stickers lol edit: they would have to make a whole new rarity category for light blue stickers, since the sticker rarities are technically different from skins but yk what I mean
Valve greenlights the sticker designs as esl tried to do a no border back in 2017 or something like that and valve denied it. Fair play on the text on the bottom though thats probably why they're almost identical
Stockholm is still heading for the moon. Stockholm stickers look better, the holos are easier to get and the supply is ridiculously low AFTER JUST A COUPLE MONTHS. If you sell your Stockholm items now, you are throwing away guaranteed big profits. Antwerp will take at least 1-2 years to get close to Stockholm prices.
Didn't you think that at the end of October new capsules with new stickers will be released and they can be no worse than the current ones, and maybe even much better! And what will happen to Stockholm then? will fall
I've got 1 1/2 storage units of capsules and 3 storage units of stickers I've unboxed. It's a decent chunk of money but I plan on forgetting about them whether we get good or bad news
lmfao If you think Valve is going to develop feelings all of a sudden you'd be sadly mistaken. they don't give a flying fuck about the players. they are to busy counting money...
I think something else that people should remember is that stockholm capsules have a 5x higher chance of getting holos. As most people will open capsules for the holos and golds, peopel would rather open stockholm, as they have a 5x higher chance to get holos compared to Antwerp.
Yeap and my guess is that this will make stockholm capsules and antwerp holos (original ones at least) valuable as there would need to be more antwerp capsules open than RMR to match stockholm holos in numbers. On the other hand antwerp capsules and glitters will most likely be cheap.
Rarity doesnt matter. There are many capsules in which the foil is the same price or cheaper than its more common counterpart (holo).
@@cansore Yes because holo have always been more in demand... Saying rarity doesn't matter is silly, as well, rarity does matter. Higher rarity means less supply, and stockholm like holos will have very high demand. In terms of unboxing, people would most likley choose stockholm over antwerp(unless for some reason they really want to get glitter), as the holos for stockholm are 5x easier to get.
@@raptor4895 but in theory wouldnt the holos be higher in price in the antwerps? [probs not rn but once its stable?]
@@ryNNwth Yes they should be, however, the key part is that both antwerp and stockholm have exactly the same holo. Most normal people won't see them and choose one over another usually, it is, in most cases, going to be exactly the same for most people. As the holo effects are pretty much the same, and they look good on the exact same gun crafts.
i really enjoyed this video, and i havent been in the cs trading scene for a while but i was able to understand what you were saying. thanks! you earned a sub from me
Thanks for another great video ptree
I don't think the next major will have a similar design because it will be different organizer. Remember elague had two majors a year apart and used similar designs. Same with ESL I mean kato 15's are copy paste kato 14's.
but Kato14 and Kato15 has different design
@@s0meRand0m129 Not really. Same holo effects on same teams. Same patterns in team logo's too. Just there is a lazy border added.
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Honestly re buying stockholm when antwerp goes 75% off is not a bad idea.....thanks!
yes :D
can u explain for me why bying stockholm when antwerp sale is a good idea, cause idk stockholm will go up or down when antwerp sale. Thanks
stockholm should remain stable or see a minor dip I wouldn't expect it to rise unless too many people are waiting to do the same.
@@ptreeNA do you think the reason why stockholm challengers capsule go up is FOMO? It will go down in the future, imo
Saw the update and first thing I thought was “can’t wait for a ptree vid” no joke
I think glitter effects are a bit overhyped. The effect looks good when inspecting the sticker in inventory, but when applied, the effect is almost invisible. I am going to invest only a little bit in those capsules as i expect that people will eventually get disappointed by them.
it seems the holo is of foil rarity now. I believe these holos will be expensive long term. The cloud 9 holo is still around 8$ like bruh.
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It's been pretty clear for awhile now that Valve doesn't care about our "investments". And why would they? Valve is interested in selling stuff. Capsules, souvenir packages, case keys etc. The scm sales fee is not the most profitable sector of their business. When an item becomes rare, it will be traded more on the third party sites than on scm. So yeah, Valve has no reason to worry about making anything "profitable" for us; they're not an investment firm, they're retailers who happen to "manufacture" their own products, which costs them no more than the electricity bill and a few workers worth of wages. It's the perfect business.
Souvenir stickers were already perfect since 2015 Cologne. Valve just won't admit it. If they want to keep the map stickers, then either remove the tournament sticker OR the opposing team sticker.
I want the latter
The supply for Stockholm is probably underestimated. At least if the recent inventory scan is to be believed.
I trust the scanerino
Good points, great video
Contenders and Challengers, have teams that didnt make it to stockholm. So their stickers might be unique if Volvo doesnt repeat the design
I think that antwer will grow due to the rarity of holographic stickers, as well as new stickers of teams that are not in stockholm: cloud 9, imperial, 9z, outsider
I believe that these videos talking about how the Antwerp supply could be inflated could have the same effect on the amount of stickers as the warnings during Stockholm, this is just speculation but might be something to think about
It could but I feel like people won't be as willing to pass this time but if that seems to be the general trend then maybe. I don't really watch any other cs youtubers so I have no idea if this opinion is shared outside of Twitter
Which one is a better investment? Stocking up on individual stickers (like C9 Holos) or buying Sticker Capsules in bulk?
avoid antwerp. go with stockholm capsules
Stockholm did not have a complete breakdown - patches are currently massively in profit.
Tbh forgot they existed but true. I guess my lonely liquid gold is finally doing something
people may underestimate the potential profits this can provide, since its actually harder to get pinks and certain pinks soo cross finger
I would hope so but we need to see what happens with the next major. If we have fully transitioned to borderless stickers I don't care about the potential of them anymore
Should we stock up on stocholm stickers and sell when Antwerp is over or when sale?
here's my personal roadmap. Antwerp sale comes -> buy stockholm hoping there's a dip but we shall see -> wait for supply numbers and buy antwerp if good. I think selling stockholm in the next few months would be a mistake
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im just invest in them(100 each) becouse they look really nice and clean. even if they go up like stockholm i dont care really
the steam balance I have will be invested into the new major and I'll flip them when I have the chance
should we stock up on stickers like cloud 9 holo , its the best i seen in a longggggggg time
do it when sales comes. i have 15 glitter version now to profit. bought at $3 each now around $6
isnt the next major in cologne? ESL Cologne?
They should introduce glitter but without removing foil lol
What about the rarity difference?
@@ObiiWanKenobii it would be the tiniest csgo flaw, there are much more things that matter way more then glitter rarity or introducing a new type of stickers
But its ea, i mean valve
Valve may lose money as they take a percentage of market sale meaning the higher the price the more Valve takes...idk the math though you'd have to do it yourself
I’m stocking up on Antwerp holos and golds. They just look amazing. Those C9 and Furia holos are the best stickers.
dont do it now. do it during sales
Do it during the sale
Ma man same thinking about furia no one is. Talking about it and its one of the best green holos in the game
i need your opinion about my gold stockhom navi sticker
sell or hold cause from 37 went to 27
Price will only drop more when sale comes
golds are very similar so they took the larger hit, could secure profits before the sale or hold and hope that either it has a very minimal dip or a fast and strong recovery. If I was in your position I would wait for a little price spike and sell since stockholm is starting to rise again
Do you think were in a bubble? I’ve been thinking about buying 3 pieces of the kato 15’s holo stickers, however its just so worrying that this is all a bubble that might burst soon, and my investment is all gone, its the only thing stopping me from going big…
buy Titan holo and be done with it
Honestly just take the money and invest in stock. You will definitely make more, and with lower risk. Or you can just buy some skins and do trading. That’s probably better than investing Kato15.
@@Bagel692 im really uneducated on stocks, ive traded crypto and nft’s for years now, but stocks lol.
I heard energy company stocks are a good buy for now.
And by stock I meant the companies that is stable. You usually get like 3% profit a month without doing anything.
@@belishcyzon9317 well if you do great with nfts and crypto, forget what I just said. What I meant was that if you just want to put your money somewhere and let it grow you should invest in stable stock which usually grows faster than kato 15. But you mentioned that you have experience with crypto and nfts. you might just do that, you will probably make more than 3x kato15s in a short time. Although there is only a little chance that kato will crash, the chance is still higher than stocks like apple or google. so yeah!
2:20 I think it should be the other way around :((
For me ,Glitter in game looks like Paper sticker only==
I think i will take my money invest some more useful things
glitter is very underwhelming in game. if it's here to stay I hope they make some changes for the next event
As i said i buy all Stockholm dips
get that money baby
@@ptreeNA :^)
stockholm still strong, challengers are at an all time high
challengers farming from mouz hype and the others are lagging behind. It's just a matter of time before the others join in though
I mean, would still buy Antwerp capsules if they are 0.25, no way they stay 0.25 after the sale end, no?
I have $500 on steam that will be going to the new major. It will be a good balance transfer as buying stockholm on steam you're overpaying quite heavily. If I didn't have steam balance locked my antwerp investment would be very minimal but that's just me personally. Need to wait for supply numbers
@@ptreeNA i was planintg to 50/50 it, when the sale starts buy both, cuz stocholm will dip again, and buy antwerp cuz no way the capsules stay the same
nice :D
i prefer foil stickers.. glitter looks like a normal sticker in game.. horrible, the only way to look at them and say "nice" is having them in your inventory.. useless
i literally don't care about the economy aspect. they are cool stickers and affordable.
When will the sale be at 75% again?
in 1 month at least
usually we get it the last day of the major but valve is so lazy we don't know for sure
bad take from valve, foils were way better imo
they should keep the foils inbetween holos and glitters, making them rarer than glitters but not as rare as holos
then there would be industrial grade stickers lol
edit: they would have to make a whole new rarity category for light blue stickers, since the sticker rarities are technically different from skins but yk what I mean
its the same design because its hosted by the same major organizer: PGL
Valve greenlights the sticker designs as esl tried to do a no border back in 2017 or something like that and valve denied it. Fair play on the text on the bottom though thats probably why they're almost identical
1more borderless desing would be killing the market so i will buy s21 from dip like u
the gamble is if we will even see a dip considering how strong the prices are currently. Time will tell
@@ptreeNA :(
Stockholm is still heading for the moon. Stockholm stickers look better, the holos are easier to get and the supply is ridiculously low AFTER JUST A COUPLE MONTHS. If you sell your Stockholm items now, you are throwing away guaranteed big profits. Antwerp will take at least 1-2 years to get close to Stockholm prices.
If the 2nd major of 2022 has a different design I can 100% agree with this
Didn't you think that at the end of October new capsules with new stickers will be released and they can be no worse than the current ones, and maybe even much better! And what will happen to Stockholm then? will fall
NO !
uuuuu boy... i have a lot of them
i spend 1k on all of 2022 capsules...legends/autogrphs etc
see what happens in 2025.. hope for the best
I've got 1 1/2 storage units of capsules and 3 storage units of stickers I've unboxed. It's a decent chunk of money but I plan on forgetting about them whether we get good or bad news
Glitter is fucking disappointment, it almost look like normal paper ingame, also stockholm golds look better
agree!
disappointment but all my homies hate foils
Glitter look spirit of g2 on dark maps
Thanks for the confirmation bias.
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yup :b
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lmfao If you think Valve is going to develop feelings all of a sudden you'd be sadly mistaken. they don't give a flying fuck about the players. they are to busy counting money...
Dont say lie Antwerp too moon Rise ;)
Funny now: glitter looks better than holo and noone wants them anymore
eh there was an initial hype when glitters were changed but I feel like it has already fallen off
it's actually the 3rd time they're reusing the logos cause the 2020 is the same with a background, the laziness is ridiculous
sold contenders lol
sold contenders but bought challengers so I'm boolin for the most part. Still waiting for the sale to repurchase contenders
1st
you do be first
Krakow was better
really? I mean the player autographs are bangers but the team stickers have always been unpopular
@@ptreeNA the border is small holos are good and logos are big