You can turn up the haptics to imitate a click/transition between full and half pull, but I will point out that the steam controller did have an actual click to do a full pull. It feels really nice.
yes, it's getting increasingly worrisome. It's obviously Valve's fault that they don't build a intuitive controller, why would he put the blame on himself hmmmm
Once you consume the Steam Deck You will unlock its fullest potential, it will perfectly integrate into your brain, allowing you to play CS:GO all day without compromising your daily life. Becoming part Steam Deck is only a natural progression of life.
The TL;DR here is that more options are always a good thing to include. A default control scheme is just meant to be playable and understandable for new players, but the advanced options are where you can squeeze more playability out of the game if you really know what you're doing. Sort of like how lots of people don't use default keybinds on their mouse and keyboard. A lot of people looking for a competitive edge will swap the buttons around or make entirely new keybinds. Some people don't even use WASD! I use ESDF! Yet for some reason, a lot of games fail to include these options, at least on the controller side of things. Even Nintendo sometimes forgets to ship a basic gyro sensitivity slider with their games, one example being Breath of the Wild. One of the most important games of the decade shipped without a sensitivity slider... There's also options that games usually lack, like choosing whether you want gyro always on, or let you pause the gyro with a button press, or let you have gyro only while scoping. But CS:GO has all of this! Even native Flick Stick support! Woah! CS:GO seems to have incredibly robust options for controller players, and other games should strive to mimic what CS:GO has managed to achieve here. Even AAA games fail to achieve what CS:GO has achieved here, and I'm not sure whether I should be praising CS:GO or trash-talking the rest of the industry. Maybe both?
I immediately remembered your video about controllers, i was also one of these people who thought they we're bad at everything. The world might be changing for the better after all.
Fortnite and Boomerang X are two other games on PC that have done motion controls really well (With the help of JibbSmart). The gyro options in Fortnite are better than the mouse options even. I hope more devs pay attention and offer good gyro controls. Emphasis on good.
@@CorrosiveCitrus I think CSGO was the first major title to use it and then Fortnite was the second major title to make use of flickstick. it would still take years for it to become standard but seeing how a lot of kids play Fortnite maybe in 15 years we will finally be seeing games make use of it since that's what today's kids would potentially grow up using.
just as i expected, the touch pad is being neglected, and for me it was the biggest reason to buy a steam controller. On the steam deck is basically a ps4 controller merged with the steam controller with additional improvements.
@@CorrosiveCitrus ehhhhhhhhhhh for walking the stick is much much better - so I use the left stick a lot, but mostly the trackpad on the right side so far... I think it's good that the deck is versatile. pads could've been a bit larger though. and the keyboard needs improvements.
@@ThunderDraws I strongly disagree that it's better, especially much much better; I believe it's just preference, the stick doesn't do anything a trackpad can't. Though with that said, I do still use the left stick for movement most of the time on my stream controller... just out of habit. Despite that, whenever I've used the trackpad instead, I didn't feel like it was any worse and a lot of people use the left trackpad for movement exclusively. Valve stated that they know the trackpads are the way to go, but unfortuantely, to drive adoption (appeal to masses) they had to include the sticks -- makes sense since there was a lot of angry comments about the lack of right stick by steam controller newbies. But they have designed the way you hold the deck so that your thumbs either rest above the trackpads, or the sticks depending on how you grip it, so it's hard to use both, but you can choose which to use thankfully.
i almost clicked this video the instant i saw it, but i was on the toilet and it felt disrespectful to watch your content while in a state of indecency. i am now clothed, modestly, and prepared to enjoy this 3kliksphillip video.
I don't think it's always a good idea to just "settle" on a control scheme. When things are new (like the steam deck) there's always room to see what's popular or unpopular, and intuitive or unintuitive. This was a huge thing in the early days of vr, so many people just outright refused that anyone would enjoy smooth motion because we all got a little sick on our dk1s but it turns out people love it and there were just a bunch of rules that made people less sick and now it's in almost every kind of game as default. Anyway, this is the time to experiment we are still in early days for the steam deck I think. Let's explore!
The trigger having two actions depending on pressure is probably a left over from the steam controller, which does have something that feel like a button when you press it all the way. Dual stage trigger can also be found on the gamecube controller and on the PS5 controller trough the adaptive triggers.
@@nobodynoone2500 I agree. I still use mine. The dual stage triggers are amazing, once you get used to them. But I do think that the fact that they didn't include the tactile button at the end of the pull was a mistake. That really let you know that you were going to do something else. The partial pull can be gotten used to, and some knowledge about how it works in general helps, but being able to pull hard enough to rest on the button then press the button for the final action was great.
CSGO's built-in flick stick is a fantastic implementation, and as of recently its built-in gyro settings are among the very best. Great to see these getting some love on Deck
Your argument with the triggers is valid, considering the Steam Controller actually did have a physical button to reach when you pulled the trigger fully. This was lost on the Deck, sadly. I'd hope for that to come back if we get a gen 2.
I strongly agree that Valve's FPS games need more standardization on Steam Deck. It's really jarring to move from Left 4 Dead to Team Fortress to Counter-Strike and have hardly any buttons do the same thing between games, plus it takes hours to adjust all the control schemes.
Half-Life 2's config (Steam Deck or External Controllers, which I am on the latter) is worse in that regard. Like, why put the Zoom function on the BACK/Share/- button? Put it on the Right Stick Click like it was on the XInput default controls layout. ...at least we can customize the Game Action bindings to match XB360/PS3 default controls.
@@AL2009man Exactly! Most of Valve's default layouts aren't even intuitive on Deck, in addition to being inconsistent between games. It took forever to modify every Valve game's controls until I was happy with them.
The not fully pressed VS fully pressed thing needing a noticeable click, the Gamecube controller actually did that, it was pretty cool. For gyroscope aiming, something some Switch and Wii U games do, and that I wish all did, as it's the rarer way of doing it despite being so much better, is having the gyro kick in, with ADS, and when not ADSed, only the stick moves the camera, allowing you to rest your arms and wrists, or do hard flicks with a quick tap of the ADS and a brief wide rotation of the Switch/Wii U controller.
Fun fact, the pressure trigger systems in controllers are actually a remnant of a conflict in firearm adoption in countries that adapted bullpup rifles where instead of having the firing mode be controller by a selector, they had a 2 stage trigger where a short pull was semi auto and a long pull was full auto. This was something people were concerned about as under stress soldiers woulda accidentally fire full auto. This conflict over whether or not two stage triggers are good continued in early controller designs. Also the modern design of portable drills are inspired by the MP40.
the mg34 has something similar, its trigger basically has an upper and lower part and wether you pull the upper or lower changes wether you fire semi or full auto
Awesome that you can be open about when you were wrong, the world could use much more of it. 100% agree on half-pressing a button without any tactile feedback, that's not intuitive or easy. Camera shutters have a small klik when half-pressed so that you know when you reach it. A good idea for Steamdeck2 if they plan on keeping half-presses.
@@Kris-od3sj I think you're describing the tactile feedback. With a small force your finger goes down and stops. With slightly more force, it pushes through and fully presses the button. That midway stop is the tactile feedback.
Lol the “my experiences being stupid” Same on the eye thing in HLA, I also once beta’d a workshop map that had a mandatory “teleport” section right at the start. Walked around confused for like 15 minutes
With a game as big as CS:GO, you will have people who doesn't understand things as a whole/who simply wishes to do things differently. And Valve is directly responsible for both the hardware's software, and the game's software, so while they have the wiggle room to tweak stuff, they have the full responsibility when things go wrong. Controllers are honestly hard to learn, and are even harder to master. It's honestly not a huge whiff that you missed/misunderstood such little stuff. And games since PS2 times "mostly" didn't have two buttons having the same purpose.
Changes to ancient (not optimization stuff bruh) m4a1s and vineyard (optimization stuff) M4a1s got clip size reduced since valve noticed that everybody was using it, there was no point on using m4a4 so I guess this gives the balance again by re-adjusting the clip size (lul)
I played PUBG Mobile kind of professionaly on my phone in the past and I can tell you that the best control for FPS (fast and accurate movements, convenient recoil control) is a sensor+gyro. (I mean, wide quick motion you can do by your fingers and small adjustments is your gyro.) But first you need to learn how to keep your device steady, without moving it when you walking or jumping. You also need to fine tune the sensitivity of the gyroscope.
Tbh i really like it having so many options for control, as someone that plays all kinds of games with all kinds of controlled and love to switch around. For me it's a selling point
I really disagree with the idea that valve should make a standardized control scheme. One of the INTEGRAL points of the steam deck is that it has so many control options (gyro, sticks, touchpad) that you can configure it uniquely to fit every game and person individually.
How could you not click on this video with that thumbnail... Also, I think it's time to revisit the M4A1-S with the new update, mainly the changes it went through in comparison to how it is in its current state.
Valve's battery support for Valve Index controllers is crap. You can't get any replacement anywhere :-( You will have to use external battery when it dies. I really hope the same won't happen with steam deck.
I wonder if a new tag for deck games that shows it has special settings/configurations on steam would help, like how they have verified and playable. Call it "Deck optimized"
I wish more controllers copied the trigger from the Gamecube controller, where it has normal analog control, with a very tactile click at the end. It's by far my favorite type of trigger on controllers and feels intuitive to have double functions on the same trigger. For example in Super Mario Sunshine it was used so you could spray water while moving, but if you click it in fully Mario stops and you are able to move the water spray vertically instead. It felt really good.
The weird thing is that the Steam Controller had such triggers but they removed it from the Deck. They're the only feature from it that didn't make it to the Deck it seems.
1:52 no I don't understand what that icon means, it does not make clear sense to me either, Valve really need to change it, and I agree with you that it is bad to make the trigger button do 2 things with just different force of triggering
For the trigger pull doing two things at once thing: I think that makes sense considering "Stop moving, shoot" aiming scheme Counter-Strike tends to be. Heck, Returnal does something similar to CSGO's Deck Trigger setup, but they made it clicks thanks to DualSense Adaptive Triggers features. We can now do it with Analog Joystick, but I argued it's quicker to do it with a Button press...geez, if only Valve added the same Dual-Stage Triggers tech from Steam Controller or added support for DualSense Controller's Adaptive Triggers...
Just a heads up, Returnal on PS5 has dual function triggers and NAILS it perfectly. The devs utilize the haptic feedbacks on the triggers to apply resistance. So when you pull the R2 trigger down halfway, you incur a little bit of resistance to offer a feeling of a "wall." This is your primary fire. But, if you pull a little bit harder to surpass this "wall," you use your Secondary Fire for a weapon. As you play and adapt to it (doesnt take long either), you realize how brilliant it is. You save time without having to effectively take your finger off the trigger thus being able to make strong, secondary shots in a blink of an eye that helps in a bullet hell game like Returnal. I honestly wished more games took advantage of this type of design concept. And I never saw anyone complain about not liking this design either. Most people actually praise the devs for their ingenuity with the haptics.
Over 1 year in preorder and still cannot buy so i refounded my 4 gbp and fuck valve. After having nintendo switch i realised i still spend 99/99% of my time on my pc, steam deck would be gimmick for me since im invrovert stuck in cave that does not know how to communicate with people - UGA BUGA
I would fn' love to play some CS:GO on my deck. However my deck has other plans. CS:GO, how about CS:NO lol. The damn game hard crashes/reboots my deck. It's the only game to have done that. And it's every time I play it. It always crashes when I'm in the decks controller settings. I was having no aiming issue. No matter what config I was on, I couldn't look around. Everything else worked aside from aiming. If I hit escape, the trackpad operated as a mouse like intended, but not in game despite it being set in the controls. I don't remember which config I downloaded but I finally found one that worked. Actually played a bots match before crashing again. This time I'm uninstalling for good. I gave it a solid go but CS:GO just doesn't like my deck for some reason.
Why would you want to play a hugely competitive, fast paced arcade shooter game like CS:GO where it's all about your personal improvement in twitch aim and movement?
Psyonix ruined my Rocket League experience so much that I'm reinstalling CSGO and SDK. Gotta get back into it for Source 2 CS release. Never gonna buy Steam Deck tho. Steam Link showed me how they handle their hardware support. New mapping contest soon? Please don't make it about detailing better tho. Or using glass too much >.>
I don't care about using the Steam Deck as a controller. CSGO on controller will always be stupid. I want to know if I can play competitively on a KBM/monitor running off the Deck.
Valve is one of the game Dev that makes some feature and make some cool improvements to things. But what they change is kinda unnotice most of the time. Sometimes people just ask to where to find it and complain about the problem without knowing that is already fix or already in the system. Valve is so good at making good things that people hard to find it. This is why "Valve communication" is need to be improved. and The UI in their software and Website is need to be improved (if you are familiar with Valves like the people watching and subs this channel is ok, but for the general public who just stumble on Valve, t's kinda hard. But I give kudos to Valve support who probably got asked many times about the same question.). IMO
Honestly the whole trigger and half life thing is just because the average person has horrible problem solving skills (sadly it looks like Philip is no better)... I don't have a console or any handheld, yet when I saw that half shaded icon I knew immediately it meant half pull, and it amazes me that people cant figure that out. Reminds me of the people who complain that Portal 1 and 2 are "Too difficult"
valve would improve csgo steam input buttons once they add 2 things, a button to cycle between primary and secudary and another to cycle between knife and grenades. And where do i get the inspiration to say something like that? Their own game using Xinput and the default mapping; also csgo on xbox 360. Valve could even add saying "legacy buttons it is stupid and not fast enough comparing to our alternatives since the dawn of the steam controller"
VALVe originally thought that CSGO was mainly going to be a console shooter, and now it kinda is a proper console shooter again. They teased the Steam Deck 10 years ago! xD
shoutout to bungie/halo for making an amazing controller layout when halo first came to the xbox in 2001. people overlook how much a good control scheme (as well as auto aim) affects the user experience in games, especially console shooters.
The thumbnail is the grown up version of a toddler or baby eats a small Lego piece Or this is just something new. Pov: you're a steam deck who is being eaten by a grown man but just stop after one bite leaving you traumatized.
First of all you got hair on your screen which is nasty second of all every game is different so there's no standard method the whole point is the customize it to your liking and it remembers every game for you that you customize so you only have to do it once stop being lazy I have no problems with the double options when pulling a trigger and you can make it vibrate when you reach a certain point you can make a vibrate twice just quit being lazy or don't use it
This may be the best thumbnail I've seen in a VERY long time.
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You can turn up the haptics to imitate a click/transition between full and half pull, but I will point out that the steam controller did have an actual click to do a full pull. It feels really nice.
I'll always appreciate your thumbnails Philip.
things I did not expect to see today: philip giving steamdeck the head
Phillip, blink 3 times if you're being held by Steam employee.
smart.they dont know what 3 is so he dont get sus
yes, it's getting increasingly worrisome. It's obviously Valve's fault that they don't build a intuitive controller, why would he put the blame on himself hmmmm
he was fed a steam deck
Your comment is smooth af.
3blinksphilip
I don't think the Steam Deck is edible
This is what the feds want you to think
Once you consume the Steam Deck You will unlock its fullest potential, it will perfectly integrate into your brain, allowing you to play CS:GO all day without compromising your daily life.
Becoming part Steam Deck is only a natural progression of life.
it's chewable, taste pretty good
You can't know for sure until you try
Valve please fix
I wish that steam deck was me 🤤
O_o
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Down astronomicly
Dear god.
*bonk*
Never thought I'd see an Englishman attempt to deepthroat a steam deck. Yet, here I am. Wild.
I guess you could call it a "Steam-cock"
Looks tasty, imma try it myself when I get one
Can you please explain the joke to me
@@AmelpsXett it's either a very clever metaphor for eating his words or he has just gone mad
@@kaan8964 yes
well that thumbnail caught me off guard
Mister Apex man, I, too, was caught off-guard by the thumbnail in which kliksphilip attempted to deepthroat the Steam Deck™️
I need more context about this thumbnail
Hi grrrt
The TL;DR here is that more options are always a good thing to include. A default control scheme is just meant to be playable and understandable for new players, but the advanced options are where you can squeeze more playability out of the game if you really know what you're doing. Sort of like how lots of people don't use default keybinds on their mouse and keyboard. A lot of people looking for a competitive edge will swap the buttons around or make entirely new keybinds. Some people don't even use WASD! I use ESDF!
Yet for some reason, a lot of games fail to include these options, at least on the controller side of things. Even Nintendo sometimes forgets to ship a basic gyro sensitivity slider with their games, one example being Breath of the Wild. One of the most important games of the decade shipped without a sensitivity slider...
There's also options that games usually lack, like choosing whether you want gyro always on, or let you pause the gyro with a button press, or let you have gyro only while scoping. But CS:GO has all of this! Even native Flick Stick support! Woah! CS:GO seems to have incredibly robust options for controller players, and other games should strive to mimic what CS:GO has managed to achieve here.
Even AAA games fail to achieve what CS:GO has achieved here, and I'm not sure whether I should be praising CS:GO or trash-talking the rest of the industry. Maybe both?
I immediately remembered your video about controllers, i was also one of these people who thought they we're bad at everything. The world might be changing for the better after all.
Fortnite and Boomerang X are two other games on PC that have done motion controls really well (With the help of JibbSmart). The gyro options in Fortnite are better than the mouse options even.
I hope more devs pay attention and offer good gyro controls. Emphasis on good.
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@@CorrosiveCitrus I think CSGO was the first major title to use it and then Fortnite was the second major title to make use of flickstick.
it would still take years for it to become standard but seeing how a lot of kids play Fortnite maybe in 15 years we will finally be seeing games make use of it since that's what today's kids would potentially grow up using.
Even though I click on every one of your videos, this thumbnail made me click on this one especially hard
4:57 What a beautiful and graceful animal. The dog is cool too, I guess.
just as i expected, the touch pad is being neglected, and for me it was the biggest reason to buy a steam controller. On the steam deck is basically a ps4 controller merged with the steam controller with additional improvements.
The touch pad was the best part of the steam controller and it seems that Philip hasn't even considered it for aiming
I honestly wish they just didn't put the sticks on it and just made the track pads bigger
@@CorrosiveCitrus ehhhhhhhhhhh for walking the stick is much much better - so I use the left stick a lot, but mostly the trackpad on the right side so far...
I think it's good that the deck is versatile. pads could've been a bit larger though. and the keyboard needs improvements.
@@ThunderDraws I strongly disagree that it's better, especially much much better; I believe it's just preference, the stick doesn't do anything a trackpad can't.
Though with that said, I do still use the left stick for movement most of the time on my stream controller... just out of habit. Despite that, whenever I've used the trackpad instead, I didn't feel like it was any worse and a lot of people use the left trackpad for movement exclusively.
Valve stated that they know the trackpads are the way to go, but unfortuantely, to drive adoption (appeal to masses) they had to include the sticks -- makes sense since there was a lot of angry comments about the lack of right stick by steam controller newbies.
But they have designed the way you hold the deck so that your thumbs either rest above the trackpads, or the sticks depending on how you grip it, so it's hard to use both, but you can choose which to use thankfully.
@@andrewrobs Its a massive shame
i almost clicked this video the instant i saw it, but i was on the toilet and it felt disrespectful to watch your content while in a state of indecency. i am now clothed, modestly, and prepared to enjoy this 3kliksphillip video.
*is waiting for steamdeck
Philip: *eats his steamdeck
I don't think it's always a good idea to just "settle" on a control scheme. When things are new (like the steam deck) there's always room to see what's popular or unpopular, and intuitive or unintuitive. This was a huge thing in the early days of vr, so many people just outright refused that anyone would enjoy smooth motion because we all got a little sick on our dk1s but it turns out people love it and there were just a bunch of rules that made people less sick and now it's in almost every kind of game as default. Anyway, this is the time to experiment we are still in early days for the steam deck I think. Let's explore!
Plus, it depends on the type of game...and accounting for various controllers because Steam Input have to worry about them too
thats not something new due to their controller
The trigger having two actions depending on pressure is probably a left over from the steam controller, which does have something that feel like a button when you press it all the way. Dual stage trigger can also be found on the gamecube controller and on the PS5 controller trough the adaptive triggers.
Most of the entire lineup of Playstation controllers have had dual stage buttons and triggers, but very few games made use of them.
Love my steam controller. Wish they kept making them.
@@GnRGaming theres no added resistance though in the controllers from ps1 to ps4, its just smooth all the way through
@@nobodynoone2500 I agree. I still use mine. The dual stage triggers are amazing, once you get used to them. But I do think that the fact that they didn't include the tactile button at the end of the pull was a mistake. That really let you know that you were going to do something else. The partial pull can be gotten used to, and some knowledge about how it works in general helps, but being able to pull hard enough to rest on the button then press the button for the final action was great.
CSGO's built-in flick stick is a fantastic implementation, and as of recently its built-in gyro settings are among the very best. Great to see these getting some love on Deck
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11 months later. Is it possible to compete with a steam deck with MnK players in CSGO?
Your argument with the triggers is valid, considering the Steam Controller actually did have a physical button to reach when you pulled the trigger fully. This was lost on the Deck, sadly. I'd hope for that to come back if we get a gen 2.
I strongly agree that Valve's FPS games need more standardization on Steam Deck. It's really jarring to move from Left 4 Dead to Team Fortress to Counter-Strike and have hardly any buttons do the same thing between games, plus it takes hours to adjust all the control schemes.
Half-Life 2's config (Steam Deck or External Controllers, which I am on the latter) is worse in that regard.
Like, why put the Zoom function on the BACK/Share/- button? Put it on the Right Stick Click like it was on the XInput default controls layout.
...at least we can customize the Game Action bindings to match XB360/PS3 default controls.
@@AL2009man Exactly! Most of Valve's default layouts aren't even intuitive on Deck, in addition to being inconsistent between games. It took forever to modify every Valve game's controls until I was happy with them.
@@QuintessentialWalrus Left 4 Dead 2 is the only Valve-produced game that matches the original XB360 controls scheme.
The not fully pressed VS fully pressed thing needing a noticeable click, the Gamecube controller actually did that, it was pretty cool.
For gyroscope aiming, something some Switch and Wii U games do, and that I wish all did, as it's the rarer way of doing it despite being so much better, is having the gyro kick in, with ADS, and when not ADSed, only the stick moves the camera, allowing you to rest your arms and wrists, or do hard flicks with a quick tap of the ADS and a brief wide rotation of the Switch/Wii U controller.
Can 3klilsphilip consume 3 times as many Steamdecks as kliksphilip ?
Out of all the big youtubers, I expected Philip to be the one to embrace the trackpads... How wrong I was.
2:19 philip wouldn't have been welcome at the design room table for the Steyr AUG it would seem 👀
I didn't knew that an image of Philip shoving the steam deck in his mouth could cheer up my day this much
Fun fact, the pressure trigger systems in controllers are actually a remnant of a conflict in firearm adoption in countries that adapted bullpup rifles where instead of having the firing mode be controller by a selector, they had a 2 stage trigger where a short pull was semi auto and a long pull was full auto. This was something people were concerned about as under stress soldiers woulda accidentally fire full auto. This conflict over whether or not two stage triggers are good continued in early controller designs.
Also the modern design of portable drills are inspired by the MP40.
I only know AUG that used multi staged trigger as fire mode
I always thought that those drills looked a lot like an MP40 in design lol
@@govinlock8568 the p90 also has this
Sorry, but any source on that drill/mp40 thing?
the mg34 has something similar, its trigger basically has an upper and lower part and wether you pull the upper or lower changes wether you fire semi or full auto
Awesome that you can be open about when you were wrong, the world could use much more of it. 100% agree on half-pressing a button without any tactile feedback, that's not intuitive or easy. Camera shutters have a small klik when half-pressed so that you know when you reach it. A good idea for Steamdeck2 if they plan on keeping half-presses.
I haven't used any cameras with "tactile" feedback, but I used a bunch that just needed little force to press halfway, and more force to press fully
@@Kris-od3sj I think you're describing the tactile feedback. With a small force your finger goes down and stops. With slightly more force, it pushes through and fully presses the button. That midway stop is the tactile feedback.
great thumbnail... and video as usual
Glad you've come around, I'm really having a lot of fun playing CS on the Deck
(Maybe some day I'll get good enough to queue for comp)
Lol the “my experiences being stupid”
Same on the eye thing in HLA, I also once beta’d a workshop map that had a mandatory “teleport” section right at the start. Walked around confused for like 15 minutes
2:00 I really wouldnt blame yourself there, the controller map did not indicate a half press well
The thumbnail is an accurate representation of 3kliksphilip commiting filatio on a steam deck.
Very erotic
I love the subtle "going low in csgo" reference at: 3:33 with the music and catchphrase ^^
Yeeeaaa
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Do appreciate you were willing to amend some of your mistakes, good on you 👍🏼
I wish success for the Steam Deck because games on Linux sounds exciting and this project is pushing for that
With a game as big as CS:GO, you will have people who doesn't understand things as a whole/who simply wishes to do things differently. And Valve is directly responsible for both the hardware's software, and the game's software, so while they have the wiggle room to tweak stuff, they have the full responsibility when things go wrong.
Controllers are honestly hard to learn, and are even harder to master. It's honestly not a huge whiff that you missed/misunderstood such little stuff. And games since PS2 times "mostly" didn't have two buttons having the same purpose.
I wish my thumbnails were this good
I love the continuity of the thumbnail into the video, great little detail!
The Steam Deck gets better FPS than my pc does
Where is CSGO update video? I want to see what's changed
Nothing, nothing at all.
If Philip has not made a video yet then nothing has changed.
@@3kliksphilip didn't know about that. Enjoy your vacations man!
@@3kliksphilip :D
Changes to ancient (not optimization stuff bruh) m4a1s and vineyard (optimization stuff)
M4a1s got clip size reduced since valve noticed that everybody was using it, there was no point on using m4a4 so I guess this gives the balance again by re-adjusting the clip size (lul)
@@Ultra289 woosh
I played PUBG Mobile kind of professionaly on my phone in the past and I can tell you that the best control for FPS (fast and accurate movements, convenient recoil control) is a sensor+gyro. (I mean, wide quick motion you can do by your fingers and small adjustments is your gyro.) But first you need to learn how to keep your device steady, without moving it when you walking or jumping. You also need to fine tune the sensitivity of the gyroscope.
Thank's gabeN🎮🕹.....
That explains the absurd amount of silver trash bots i get in my faceit matches.📲
Please mention the guy that played a TF2 tournament on a controller with a very similar control scheme and absolutely slayed.
Hang on Philip! I thought you liked keyboards with variable click force?
Tbh i really like it having so many options for control, as someone that plays all kinds of games with all kinds of controlled and love to switch around. For me it's a selling point
its not bad if you get things wrong on a review because it shows the real world experience some people might have
I really disagree with the idea that valve should make a standardized control scheme. One of the INTEGRAL points of the steam deck is that it has so many control options (gyro, sticks, touchpad) that you can configure it uniquely to fit every game and person individually.
The flick camera movement sounds god awful to use as a console pleb myself
How could you not click on this video with that thumbnail...
Also, I think it's time to revisit the M4A1-S with the new update, mainly the changes it went through in comparison to how it is in its current state.
ty for the pics of UBER GABEN sticking his arm into his face
Valve's battery support for Valve Index controllers is crap. You can't get any replacement anywhere :-( You will have to use external battery when it dies. I really hope the same won't happen with steam deck.
playing CS:GO on the GO :O Life is good
"No, B-- Bill! Sto-- BILL YOU CAN'T EAT THAT"
Thanks!
In HL: Alyx I was stuck in the same place xd
I expected you to also eat pineapple :D
The video starts with deep throating the steam deck, hmmmmmmmmmmm.
I feel like I’ve heard that intro sound before hmmm
Steam Deck x 3kliksphilip Vore??
I wonder if a new tag for deck games that shows it has special settings/configurations on steam would help, like how they have verified and playable. Call it "Deck optimized"
Couldn't you use the trackpad(s) to draw out the spray pattern when shooting?
4:58 the suspense is killing me.
You're not stupid, they didn't make it clear enough. It's why playtesters exist.
EDIT: Okay you elaborated on this :)
nah the controls still look like utter shit.
I wish more controllers copied the trigger from the Gamecube controller, where it has normal analog control, with a very tactile click at the end. It's by far my favorite type of trigger on controllers and feels intuitive to have double functions on the same trigger.
For example in Super Mario Sunshine it was used so you could spray water while moving, but if you click it in fully Mario stops and you are able to move the water spray vertically instead. It felt really good.
the steam controller has such a trigger
The weird thing is that the Steam Controller had such triggers but they removed it from the Deck. They're the only feature from it that didn't make it to the Deck it seems.
@@yannicksanders8560 the two stage trigger is amazing for awping. set it up so the soft pull is aiming and the hard pull is firing
Holy shit that dog is gorgeous.😦
cursed thumbnail 😂😳
2:04 this function used PS2 in 2000
1:52 no I don't understand what that icon means, it does not make clear sense to me either, Valve really need to change it, and I agree with you that it is bad to make the trigger button do 2 things with just different force of triggering
For the trigger pull doing two things at once thing: I think that makes sense considering "Stop moving, shoot" aiming scheme Counter-Strike tends to be.
Heck, Returnal does something similar to CSGO's Deck Trigger setup, but they made it clicks thanks to DualSense Adaptive Triggers features.
We can now do it with Analog Joystick, but I argued it's quicker to do it with a Button press...geez, if only Valve added the same Dual-Stage Triggers tech from Steam Controller or added support for DualSense Controller's Adaptive Triggers...
Icons needs to change tho.
Even Big Picture Mode's Digital Press icon is more clearer than Steam Deck UI one.
Walk and crouch was perfect for the button , makes totally sense to not full press and walk and full press and crouch.
I'd like to see a steam deck only CSGO competition
I got the notification for this video while I was getting groceries. Ended up cackling loudly in the milk aisle
Nobody is playing csgo with a controller. Of all the things steam deck is good for csgo ain't it
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who got stuck in that part of Half life Alyx.
All these controller changes make me feel that CSGO can possibly have another console release if Source 2 ever arrives.
bro how the Steam Deck taste
I wanna see a csgo steam deck esports tournament
If they were to do it nowadays, it'd only have CAL players
Just a heads up, Returnal on PS5 has dual function triggers and NAILS it perfectly. The devs utilize the haptic feedbacks on the triggers to apply resistance.
So when you pull the R2 trigger down halfway, you incur a little bit of resistance to offer a feeling of a "wall." This is your primary fire. But, if you pull a little bit harder to surpass this "wall," you use your Secondary Fire for a weapon.
As you play and adapt to it (doesnt take long either), you realize how brilliant it is. You save time without having to effectively take your finger off the trigger thus being able to make strong, secondary shots in a blink of an eye that helps in a bullet hell game like Returnal.
I honestly wished more games took advantage of this type of design concept. And I never saw anyone complain about not liking this design either. Most people actually praise the devs for their ingenuity with the haptics.
Over 1 year in preorder and still cannot buy so i refounded my 4 gbp and fuck valve. After having nintendo switch i realised i still spend 99/99% of my time on my pc, steam deck would be gimmick for me since im invrovert stuck in cave that does not know how to communicate with people - UGA BUGA
Wait, so the Steam Deck's triggers don't have the "click" when you pull them all the way like the Steam Controller did? That's dumb.
We ask how fast the steamdeck can run games but we've never asked how it tastes.
I would fn' love to play some CS:GO on my deck. However my deck has other plans. CS:GO, how about CS:NO lol. The damn game hard crashes/reboots my deck. It's the only game to have done that. And it's every time I play it. It always crashes when I'm in the decks controller settings. I was having no aiming issue. No matter what config I was on, I couldn't look around. Everything else worked aside from aiming. If I hit escape, the trackpad operated as a mouse like intended, but not in game despite it being set in the controls. I don't remember which config I downloaded but I finally found one that worked. Actually played a bots match before crashing again. This time I'm uninstalling for good. I gave it a solid go but CS:GO just doesn't like my deck for some reason.
Why would you want to play a hugely competitive, fast paced arcade shooter game like CS:GO where it's all about your personal improvement in twitch aim and movement?
The nob is touch sensitive
Psyonix ruined my Rocket League experience so much that I'm reinstalling CSGO and SDK. Gotta get back into it for Source 2 CS release. Never gonna buy Steam Deck tho. Steam Link showed me how they handle their hardware support. New mapping contest soon? Please don't make it about detailing better tho. Or using glass too much >.>
The flow from Thumbnail to opening scene was great!
I don't care about using the Steam Deck as a controller. CSGO on controller will always be stupid.
I want to know if I can play competitively on a KBM/monitor running off the Deck.
Valve is one of the game Dev that makes some feature and make some cool improvements to things. But what they change is kinda unnotice most of the time.
Sometimes people just ask to where to find it and complain about the problem without knowing that is already fix or already in the system. Valve is so good at making good things that people hard to find it. This is why "Valve communication" is need to be improved. and The UI in their software and Website is need to be improved (if you are familiar with Valves like the people watching and subs this channel is ok, but for the general public who just stumble on Valve, t's kinda hard. But I give kudos to Valve support who probably got asked many times about the same question.). IMO
Steam deck is better than Nitendo 😏
Can play anywhere any time
Honestly the whole trigger and half life thing is just because the average person has horrible problem solving skills (sadly it looks like Philip is no better)... I don't have a console or any handheld, yet when I saw that half shaded icon I knew immediately it meant half pull, and it amazes me that people cant figure that out. Reminds me of the people who complain that Portal 1 and 2 are "Too difficult"
I think I'm hallucinating because I think I saw Mr. Phil smile in the first few seconds of the video.
valve would improve csgo steam input buttons once they add 2 things, a button to cycle between primary and secudary and another to cycle between knife and grenades. And where do i get the inspiration to say something like that? Their own game using Xinput and the default mapping; also csgo on xbox 360. Valve could even add saying "legacy buttons it is stupid and not fast enough comparing to our alternatives since the dawn of the steam controller"
VALVe originally thought that CSGO was mainly going to be a console shooter, and now it kinda is a proper console shooter again. They teased the Steam Deck 10 years ago! xD
shoutout to bungie/halo for making an amazing controller layout when halo first came to the xbox in 2001. people overlook how much a good control scheme (as well as auto aim) affects the user experience in games, especially console shooters.
The thumbnail is the grown up version of a toddler or baby eats a small Lego piece
Or this is just something new.
Pov: you're a steam deck who is being eaten by a grown man but just stop after one bite leaving you traumatized.
i thought you were playing cs:go on the STREAM DECK not the Steam Deck. Fuck me
First of all you got hair on your screen which is nasty second of all every game is different so there's no standard method the whole point is the customize it to your liking and it remembers every game for you that you customize so you only have to do it once stop being lazy I have no problems with the double options when pulling a trigger and you can make it vibrate when you reach a certain point you can make a vibrate twice just quit being lazy or don't use it
Hey Phillip, theres a hair on the bottom left corner of your steam deck, your welcome :)
If I strap a steam deck to an airsoft rifle, could I technically aim effectively and precisely on CSGO?