10 Welcome Changes Deep Space Nine Made To The Star Trek Formula
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- A series more daring and multifaceted than the Treks that came before it. Welcome to Deep Space 9.
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My personal favorite scene from DS9, is Nog's speech, where he convinces Sisko to let him apply for Starfleet. Aron Eisenberg (RIP) was absolutely spectacular.
He really was. His performances later in the run, when he showed his range as a frightened young ensign during battle, and his PTSD after the battle, were incredibly well performed. He was such a special actor.
Absolutely
Yeah great scene
"I have my father hands."
The Ferengi race in general was so well redone, much thanks to Armin Shimerman. He would have many Ferengi character actors (including Eisenberg) come to his home to practice
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is the greatest Star Trek series ever made.
To me it really is a tie between TNG and DS9
It's good, but doesn't really match the original.
I agree, it was fresh, new and bought so much more to the table. While still living the star trek values.
DS9 awesome show…. 🖖🏽
Unpopular opinion, but I agree.
Rewatching this right now. DS9 was the best trek. TNG brought me in, and VOY caught my attention, it was DS9 that stayed with me.
It was a good series, not really the best trek by a mile though, as the writers threw out the principles that made Star Trek, Star Trek in order to make it easier to write for. It’s easy to write “humans in space” it’s hard to write “paragons in utopia”. It’s more popular to be “relatable” than to be “inspiring” and make it enjoyable to watch. They might as well have rename DS9 to Babylon 6 for all the connection it had to Star Trek.
I have a bumper sticker: Star Trek DS-9. Same Great Trek Flavor, Twice the Plot.
Agreed. Rewatching It now and Voyager After that and Looks like a sunday morning cartoon in comparison
@@oriondye3212 sorry man, that's literally just your opinion. If you love the first two that's awesome, congrats. But you're a damn fool thinking what you said is suppose to be some fact that is suppose to somehow disregard how many feel about DS9. People like you turns Star Trek into a punchline. Enjoy your shit and let people enjoy there's.
@@charlessmith4487 you’re right! that is literally my opinion, just like the OP is literally just yours. If you don’t want to hear others opinions then don’t put yours out there.
DS9 was more honest. It showed that the quadrant wasn't just happy go lucky humans in space with some odd dangerous creatures here and there. I loved that it showed it was still a challenge for people to move past base reactions
DS9 took both O'Brien and Worf from TNG and made us all associate them more with DS9 than their original show. Well done, DS9 writers.
They did a lot better in DS9
Worf is still TNG for me but O Brien is definitely DS9 no question.
I agree, on TNG worf felt little more than a measuring stick to show how dangerous the alien of the week was
More about screen time than writing IMHO. As a bit part in TNG O'Brien never had the screen time he had as a /central/ character in DS9 - bar 'The Wounded' where he really showed his acting chops. Similarly Worf even though one of the bridge crew often lagged behind others - even Beverly Crusher and LaForge who weren't on the bridge.
@@julianmhall I think that is a fair point that actual screen time had more of an impact than simply the writing. I just like that with O'Brien, they saw he had enough potential to keep around and decided to give him screen time for development in DS9. And though Worf was a more central character than O'Brien in TNG, I think the same held true for him, too. I loved how both O'Brien and Worf really got good character development and story arcs in DS9, thanks to that added screen time. And as such, they were both among my favorites, for sure!
DS-9 showed us that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Technology may change but the basic human condition does not. It was realistic, the characters had their merits and their flaws. They were human...not cut and paste virtuous heroes. I point you to the episode where Sisko employs Garak to try and bring the Romulans into the war vs the Dominion. No spoilers forthcoming, but it was a revealing episode into how far a "good" person is willing to go depending on the stakes.
Worf wasn't human.
Especially the ending with the deletion
Under a pale moon is my favorite by far. Garak is a great character and the polical, moral and ethical interactions in this episode perfectly reflects what the whole show is.
@@stephanevally170 its many peoples fave and people say Discovery is dark.... HA
It's a fake
"Come to Quark's,
"Quark's is fun!
"Come right now,
"Don't walk, RUN!"
I will come to Quarks, and believe me; I WILL HAVE FUN.
You! How did you do it!? 🧃🎶
And when Worf enters the room it changes to:
Flee from Worf,
Worf ain't fun,
flee right now,
don't walk, RUN!
:P
@@DarthLee8472 oh man, that was such a great line lol
@@DarthLee8472 Just don't come IN Quark!
Watched most if ds9 last year in quarantine. Just finally finished the final season this year, what an amazing show.
SAME! I watched it and was so impressed how well thought out the serialized story was in a show that was being created for syndication.
Beyond amazing.
You're so lucky! I wish I could watch DS9 again, for the first time. 😄
@@ArcaJ I was I could watch it again for the first time it aired again. Damn that was good.
Same. Great show, I always disregarded it but it is really good.
The world building, the attention to detail, the story threads, the characters and how they develop... I could sing this show's praises all dang day.
DS9 was my Trek, I was a little young for TNG. Trying to find DS9 taught me how to use the TV Guide channel lol. I loved the DS9 time travel episodes, primarily Trials and Tribble-ations and Little Green Men. Garak as a character really hooked me into the series, especially when Odo asked if he'd shoot a man in the back and Garak replied "well, it's the safest way".
Garak was brillant. You never knew whether you could truly trust him. And yet you couldn't help but like the guy. His friendship with Bashir was a great arc as well, and oh am I glad they didn't ship them.
@@givmi_more_w9251
What you mean? its a shame they didn't ship them. That would be very very interesting.
DS9 will always be my favorite.
So good. U are very correct.
I have always maintained that Next Gen had my favorite characters, but DS9 had my favorite stories.
I’ll like any video that talks about how awesome DS9 is.
🙌
DS9 is Amazingk!
I would love to see a follow-up show, like 20 or 30 years later, to see how Bajor has develloped in this time, how the station has changed and so on. They could easily bring old characters back and introduce new ones.
Garak and Bashir married.
Hasn't Avery Brooks said that he has no interest in revisiting Sisko?
I think so. Given the character is where he is though it would be easy to have him either guest appearance or be mentioned, not seen.
And with today’s policies and political correctness BS they would 10000% ruin it
DS9: The Next Generation?
DS9 took the Ferengi and Cardassians and really fleshed them out. The Ferengi were no longer bumbling little trolls only concerned with profit.
They did and they didn’t, instead the ferengi were enjoyable bumbling little trolls for profit with the occasional competent decision when the plot demanded it.
And Nog got one of the most intetesting character development arcs ever seen. Plus his Ferengi trading ability actually came in useful occasionally.
The Cardassians were introduced intentionally to be fleshed out later, in DS9.
DS9 showed how even a Ferengi could drink federation rootbeer (koolaid)
Section 31 should have been on this list. Showing that Starfleet wasn't the squeaky clean organization it originally was designed to be by Gene, gives it more realism and comparison to our modern day world.
Section 31 = Federation CIA!!!
They did flash them on the screen for a second, but they never called them out by name, true.
Exactly.
If by realism you mean they pissed all over the guys grave and blatantly repainted his dream into a mediocre space opera like all the others then yes they did that.
@@oriondye3212 every thing you just said is bullshit
DS9 turned into my favorite Trek series. I love all the characters, they were more complex than the other series, with more complex motives and plots.
The biggest reason why I liked DS9 was that it gave Worf the time to shine.
DS9, is the only series of the franchise that I still watch regularly to this day. So much more depth, interesting plots and characters really sucks me in.
I think you missed a major one the focus on supporting characters
Perfect example: The fact that even without EVER saying a word, Morn became a memorable recurring character--and much beloved, even without any real story arcs. :)
@@eliselambson7448 it was surprising that they could find so many moments of Morn to film where he wasn't talking. That guy would just never shut up.
DS9 is the best ( besides the original) with amazing stories and the best character development. I loved a Quark episode. The one with Sisko as Benny was awesome and the baseball game against the Vulcans was awesome.
Trials and Tribble-ations
It was really funny how they celebrated at getting a run, even though they lost badly.
Thank you JMS for unintentionally making ST better
😄🎬
did he ever get paid for the ripoff I wonder?
@@julieeverett7442 Couldn't find much detail except I think JMS said that he had to settle otherwise B5 might have never been made. So for the most part sounds like DS9 writers and producers got away with outright theft and trying to sink B5.
Yes
I love Deep Space Nine because the Star Trek Utopia as shown in TNG is great but you can't have a Utopia without Darkness, and seeing characters have to struggle with that was incredibly touching
"True virtue isn't virtue...until it comes up against vice."-Frank Pembleton, "Homicide: Life On The Street"
The trick with TNG is that its a Federation ship with a Federation crew and the focus is most on said ship and crew. Not only that, its a ship on the edges of Federation space dealing mostly with other cultures who aren't members of the Federation. So we get a very narrow look at things. We don't really get to see civilian life in the Federation or much of Earth for that matter. Its like following the command crew of a US Navy Battleship and then trying to figure out what the rest of the US is like. Not much to go on.
With DS9 we got to see more of the civilians and learn more about the areas surrounding the Federation. As a free port, and a non-Federation one at that, non-Federation Officers were coming and going all of the time. In a lot of ways, Sisco had a much harder command thrust upon him than commanding a starship.
I love TNG and Picard. He was a great captain and a great diplomat. However, I am not sure Picard would have fared as well if he had been given command of DS9. Sisco and Picard were both diplomats, but different styles of diplomat. Sisco learned they style of diplomacy one needs for long duration type missions where your constantly exposed to the culture your assigned to and dealing with the civilians of that culture in addition to heads of state and such. Picard's type of diplomatic training and experience is more refined and short term, the kind use din entertaining high officials and heads of state for a night or a week and almost never having anything to do with the civilian population. Its that long mission style of diplomacy and training that did Sisco so well in dealing with the various cultures that lived and visited the station.
I gotta tell you, DS9 is SUCH a good series. I wish they would remaster it.
WE ALL WISH THAT!!!
I remember reading that Gene Roddenberry wanted to do three or four part episodes in the old Trek. But the production company overruled him, saying the audience would not have the attention span.
Since when does Hollywood know what audiences want? 🤣🤣🤣
I believe Netflix and Amazon Prime have proven otherwise lol. Program binge, anyone? Lol.
@@TheWyldehart back in the 90's we didn't have streaming. star trek was on syndication in my area and if you missed an episode you waited until reruns.
i will say that when i was kid watching it with my dad, i always liked ds9 due to the sisko dad and son dynamic.
@@destronger5313 yeah, it was hard watching something like Babylon 5
"The audience would not have the attention span..." they said 60 years ago, back when movies had very slow pacing. They were well ahead of their time. Today the average attention span is less than tiktok length. XD
"You waited until reruns."
"What are reruns?" -- Back To The Future 1, 1955.
Btw, Deep Space 9 is loosely based on Babylon 5. After initially rejecting Straczynski's ideas, they anyways went with overarching storylines revolving around a space station in the middle of three wars (centuries old, newly formed, and between the cryptic ancients of light and dark).
This definitely became my favorite trek, edging out TNG. The writing more often than not was spot on. It ended at the right time but too soon at the same time. DS9 deserved a movie.
The golden rule. Always leave them wanting more.
Roddenberry's rule on conflict was no conflict between Starfleet personnel. The reason the Bajorans and Quark and Odo were added was specifically for conflict among main characters.
Michael Eddington would like a word with you.
@@LucyLynette Michael Eddington was revealed to be a traitor.
@@AaronLitz *Patriot.
One of the things I loved about DS9 was the fact that many of it's episodes didn't end on a particularly upbeat note. Such episodes served to remind audiences that, while some species within the Star Trek Universe had managed to turn their worlds into a Utopia, others were still having to endure growing pains to achieve such a state. For example, in the Season One Episode "Duet," Major Kiera's investigation of a visiting Cardassian to the station leads her to realize that not all Cardassians are brutal oppressors. Some, like the Cardassian in this episode, was pretending to be a very infamous Gaul (The Butcher of Galatep) in order to force the Cardassian Government to publicly acknowledge their war crimes against the Bajorans in an effort to atone for the role he played in the Occupation. After seeing just how remorseful this man really was, Kira begins to realize that each individual (whether they be Cardassian or Bajoran) needs to be judged based on their own actions rather than condemned for simply being a part of a larger group of people with a less-than-perfect history. This is made all the more apparent when, after being released from confinement, the Cardassian is killed in cold blood by a Bajoran man who has strong negative feelings toward the Cardassian race for their occupied of his planet over the past 50 years. The final lines in the episode after the Cardassian dies goes as follows: Major Kira: "Why did you do that? he wasn't Gaul Darheal!" Bajoran Man: "He was Cardassian--that's reason enough." Major Kira: NO--no it's not."
While I admire Gene Rodenberry's efforts to promote a future where everyone lives in peace, and everyone is afforded the opportunity to pursue what makes them happy and fulfilled, the fact is that such a future takes time to achieve, and it has to come after we, as humans, have gone through some very necessary, and often times arduous, learning experiences. The producers of DS9 understood this fact very well, and they managed to make the whole Star Trek Franchise feel more relatable with an entry in the canon that was both nuanced and poignant in its approach to showing us just how complicated and messy life really is within the broader universe.
Thank you for this! I've been singing DS9's praises for 28 years and counting. (I was 15 when it premiered.) And I vehemently defended it to all the naysayers who criticized it while refusing to give it a chance.
It's great to see more and more people showing the series some love over the past 5 years or so, but it was lonely back in the 1990s when I proudly applauded its great storylines, top-notch character development, and fearless approach to bringing new ideas to an already amazing franchise.
This is a great list, Marcus! I'm glad I watched it. :-D
Sisko alone as captain represents several positive changes, I'm honestly surprised that wasn't #1
Re: #5, I'd also like to point out Sisko's reluctance to being involved in the holosuite caper in Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang. He points out that people like him weren't welcome in Vegas during that period. It's a poignant moment that nobody really dared to discuss during all the holosuite programs set in the past.
What makes that moment better is Kassidy who - paraphrasing here - tells him "get the hell over it. We don't betray who we are or our ancestors when we depict a fictional version where people weren't racist twats." That really made me like the episode even more (I was a sucker for the Vic Fontaine episodes, I just loved the setting ...). It reminded you that "yep, shit, just a few decades back, someone like Sisko would have been treated incredibly unfairly because of his skin color", but at the same time, gave a big fat no to victim mentality and irrational grudges for "sins of the fathers".
Come on, a star ship captain from the 24th century being THAT salty about what happened more than 300 years ago would be pretty ridiculous. It would be like I as a German would be mad at Sweden for devastating parts of Germany during the 30-year-war (1618-48).
@@givmi_more_w9251 I love Vic and the episode so much!!! Loved how they turned a chill hangout game and added a multiplayer co-op boss they had to fight so that it doesn't become boring but I get why Sisko is salty. He, out of everyone, had personal experience of being in the past and experiencing the prejudice. Far Beyond the Stars was in season 6. Then he gets a another flash of being Benny Russell in a padded room in Shadows and Symbols early in the 7th season. So for him, it wasn't a couple of centuries ago.
Having watched the series about 4 times. Fine with not watching it again for a long time, if ever.
Me: Pulls up 10 things about DS9 video. It will be okay.
Me: Resists urge to start watching the series again
Me: Looks at what's new on Netflix, HBO Max, Amazon, etc.
Me: Starts to itch
DS9: "Lower your defenses. Resistance is futile"
These recents videos about DS9...
i think im due for a rewatch... again
DS9 also showed us that desperation can led to dark places… like looking the other way when Mr. Garak blows up a Romulan Senator, or bombing a habitable planet with a lethal to humans chemical so only Cardassians could live there.
Always love your videos/reviews Marcus; different tone and emphasis. It always good to get multiple perspectives. WELL DONE!!!
O'Brien got tortured to Hell and beyond on DS9, but yeah, his character did grow.
Of the top three best episodes of the show, IMO, O’Brien is the main in two of them…so ya.
Kai Winn was played by Louise Fletcher who is most famous for winning the Academy Award as lead actress in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest opposite Jack Nicholson. If you think you hated Kai Winn wait until you meet Nurse Ratched. The film also includes a couple of very young actors named Danny DeVito and Christopher Lloyd. One of three films to win the "Big Five" Oscars of Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Director, Best Screenplay and Best Picture.
Sisko shaving his head was a welcome change
He looked more badass as the series progressed.
DS9 delivered on true consequences to galactic conflict. Those stark detractions form Rodenberry's vision give this series gravitas.
It resonates with it's fans because it has dimension.
I do welcome the serialized stories, but too many shows that started with a winning formulaic structure decide they need to go all out on the serials and thus kill the magic they had grown (see: Castle). There's a balance in there, and I feel that DS9 was pretty close to the perfect blend.
The Federation was a Paradise as stated in an episode I forget was called. DS9 was out there , and yes the non Paradise created some of the best Startrek.
S04 E22 "For The Cause" Eddington tells Sisko condescendingly "Thats the one thing you cannot accept... nobody leaves paradise, everyone should want to be in the Federation." The Borg comparison statement in that same speech was also very well done.
S04E12 "Paradise Lost" Stated in an episode title!
It's given the episode number 12 on some sites, 11 on others. I don't have a clue why.
Season two episode "The Maquis pt." was the first time Sisko rants about Starfleet not understanding the Maquis' situation, because Starfleet HQ is "in a paradise."
@@sgtmyers88 He also pointed out how the Borg are at least honest about who they are or something to that extent.
Also side note the actor that played Edington played the leader character in 1980's Krull.
@@Andrew-pr9xv exactly. I especially love the blatant statement he makes “it’s easy to be a saint in paradise”
Markus is doing some heavy lifting here. This is a great list.
DS9 is to date my Favorite Trek, the only problem I had was how Morn monopolized every scene he was in. Did they have to give him so many lines?
Yes as you touched upon... utilizing a static Space Station (Instead of a Star ship) to me, gave the show a "Wild West" feel. As each week it was "Look who just rode into town!" A Friend or Foe? A tried and true format that has worked on TV (and movies) since the 1960's.
After TOS this is by far my most favorite. So many great episodes.
So many fantastic episodes
I love Quark called Sisko out for his human arrogance by pointing out that Ferengis never had anything as barbaric as slavery, genocide, or countless wars like humans.
Typical Quark. Completely overlooks how Ferengi females have no rights and can’t even wear clothes or leave the house. So, in other words, slaves.
I also find it hard to believe that a civilization with a religion based on unlimited greed and unfettered capitalism would not have included slavery. They may not have called it “slavery”, but if you pay attention to how Ferengi treat their “employees”, it sounds very close to it.
As always when Something beloved gets Changed, you risk to annihalate your fanbase. I was a Star Trek Fan who *DESPISED* DS9 at First in the 90's when it came Out... Only YEARS later, i learned to View it from another angle and Loved almost EVERY second watching it!
Agreed. My adult eyes understood what my child eyes didn't.
I agree. I hated it, then tried it years later and now it’s my favorite (besides voyager)
I guess you could say one of my favorite changes to the formula is a subset of the "Serialized Storylines"... and that is the scope of character backstories. In the monster-of-the-week format, aspects of a character's past might play a part in the immediate story, then almost never heard of again. In DS9's formula there's a certain level of object permanence, the character backstory implicitly defines the story and everything after - like Julian being genetically engineered
DS9 MY FAVORITE FOR A THOUSAND REASONS
I am so glad I finally gave this show a chance years ago. It's honestly the best Trek but I love Expance and Galactica so I can see why I think it's the best.
I really loved how DS9 was basically one long story. All characters were done justice, Quark and Odo were legendary, and DS9 just felt so homely after a while.
DS9 is my favorite series within Star Trek. Watched it all last year and I like rewatching it when I can now.
DS9 will always be my favorite because that's when.....simply put.....s*** got real 😃
Sisko being such and understanding and patient Dad.
The fact that Rodenberry thought that Starfleet wasn't a military organization was ludicrous. Being explorers sounds nice and cute but there were factions who wanted to destroy or take over the Federation or Starfleet.
That's because it wasn't and isn't a military organization it was founded on exploration and defense if you want a military organization look up the Terran empire Star fleet. They never engaged in a offensive military engagement unprovoked defensive wars
The United federation's Star fleet's main purpose is not warfare hence it is not a military organization but it doesn't mean that you don't know how to fight. It's just not the Klingons or the terran empire whose main purpose is military expansion and subjugation
Far Beyond The Stars is fantastic. Easily the best written Star Trek episode.
Definitely up there for me.
Kai Winn is best described as a Space Pope Karen
I hated her so much. Though I must say good job to the actor.
😆😆😆 YASSSSSS!
@@bravebenar5166 SAME! She was the WORST! (But yeah, since that was the point, you gotta give props to Louise Fletcher, the actor who played her, for doing so well with that!)
You mentioned my personal favorite things about DS9: the Ferengi (and Latinum) and the continuing story line regarding the Dominion War! Thanks 😊
"Depending on who ask , it is debatable who this main antagonist is."
*GARAK HAS ENTERED THE CHAT*
Garak
Dear Garak os the best tailor.
2:33 To be fair, only the Vulcan captain had issues. The rest probably just wanted to play baseball. One even seems to be interacting well with Nog after the game.
I think one of my favorite lines of DS9 was when Garak had joined Bashir in the holosuite for a little "James Bond" style fun. "I think I joined the wrong intelligence service."
Interesting concept. It was pulled off well. Besides;what man wouldn't not to be commander James bond of MI-6.
"Come to Quark's,
Quark's is fun.
Come to Quark's,
Don't walk, RUN!"
This list could've also been called 10 Things That Made DS9 Amazing
Far Beyond the Stars was/is one of my favourite episodes. I always liked DS9 when it was on - I never understood why so many ST fans didn't 🤷♂️
What I loved was that Commander/Captain Sisko, Major/Colonel/Commander Kira, etc were not Diplomats or Lovers but Fighters. They were Badasses. It's obvious with Sisko, Kira, Worf, and Dax. However, eventually they ALL become Badasses. In TNG, they had the formula to make Riker a fighting badass against the Borg but dropped the ball there. Even Picard was allowed badassery until First Contact. DS9 gave us more real ideas on how certain people handle issues.
TrekCulture you aced it with this one. Well done.
DS9 will always be my favourite
DS9 was the best Star Trek show by a fair margin, past and present. It also gave us an excellent BSG reimagining.
DS9 had something to do with the Battlestar reboot? Please tell me the story!
This is my all time favorite trek channel.
Keep up the great work 👍🏾
DS9 really was amazing.
loved this video. reaffirmed why I love DS9 so much and how special it is in ST cannon.
DS9 will always be my favourite trek series, Avery Brookes was so powerful as the captain. One of my favourite scenes is the baseball game, they're all shouting and trying to distract, and out of nowhere Worf pulls a blinder shouting "death to the opposition!" like Worf bro it's a sports game chill 💀
DS9 was Star Trek at its best.
Many of the things that made ds9 such a great show, the formula, story, acting, etc. can also be seen in my other personal favorite Babylon 5. If you haven't seen it you are missing out big time.
And the spots go all the way down indeed! That was like the biggest cliffhanger across 7 seasons! Also, it was Babylon 5 that did serialized content first. Albeit very very briefly before.
I appreciated showing women in different roles and different positions as well. It was nice to see women seen as "royal smart person", former guerrilla fighter, wise and beloved spiritual leader and dedicated teacher.
Star Trek:TOS was refered to by Roddenberry "Wagon Train to the stars". when DS9 was pitched it was refered to as "Gunsmoke in the stars".
You also saw characters switch side, e.g. Damar switched from enemy to ally. The Klingons were both throughout the series.
And you a character for whom "side" was something a theoretical construct-Garak.
As was the truth @@jackal59 'especially the lies' :)
Gul Dukat is the single greatest villain in the entire Star Trek franchise.
he alone is a reason enough to watch the whole show.
TNG also played silly sods at times.. Worf's 'Sir, I must protest! I am not a Merry Man!' was a classic line when Q put the bridge crew in Sherwood Forest with Picard as Robin Hood.
Take me out to the Holosuite was basically The Bad News Bears meets DS9.
And it still stunk
As good as Far Beyond The Stars is, it’s only one episode not an arc
He said it with such confidence it made me question it, but I believe you're correct.
@@adamtaylor5274
To be fair, Benny Russell did appear in one more episode in the series. So there's that.
Good to see you in a video Marcus! Good list... DS9 really stands tall in the Star Trek mythology.
great analysis, thanks 🙂
Over the years, DS9 has gradually become my personal favorite Star Trek series
Love this channel, thanks for great fun and facts. :)
I think the true antagonist is Brunt 😁
FCA
I really liked the baseball game episode against the Vulcans,it was sooo GOOD!!! Picard would never do that with his crew!! LOL.NEVER.WHY,he didn't play poker with his crew until the last season on the final episode!! HUH???You can bond more with people under your command more through sports and other social activities-ESPRIT-DE-CORPS!!! This was used often while I was in the military. SEMPER-FI.
Seeing the sparks fly between the Vulcan captain and Sisko was brilliant. The way he described the bar fighting scene ... you can hear the shards of his pride fall to the floor^^
Ezri was wise beyond her years.
What do you mean Khan was a reoccurring villain??? He was in exactly one episode
At a professional convention, I once got asked who was my favorite captain, without missing a beat, I said Sisko, and I will always stand by that.
(for those curious, the response was ".....interesting choice")
One of my favorite lines (or speech) was from Quark tell Nog during the siege of whatever the planet’s name “let me tell you something nephew, most of the time humans are nice and generous people but when you take away their creature comforts like sonic showers, food, and root beer those same nice and generous people become more bloodthirsty then even the most bloodthirsty of Klingons.”
P.s. Yeah I know I screwed up the quote but hey, I tried.
I have to admit when thinking about it DS9 is probably my favorite in the series. It offered everything the other series did, but also a lot of fun episodes and storylines.
It has never made sense to me that _Vulcans_ should get into _baseball._ Baseball is something you get into for _fun_ which is a sensation contrary to the Vulcan _experience._ Even when done _competitively,_ the two teams have to have comparable skills so there's uncertainty about who's going to win. Without that uncertainty, there's no point in _playing._
As Sisko put it: "Solok doesn't care about Baseball, he just wants to rub my nose in it one more time, but this time he's using my game, MY GAME!"
in reference to number 10, at least TNGNDS9 had one thing in common in that while they couldn't have original series characters as regulars, both had original series characters as guest appearances played by the original actors. TNG had Sarek, Spock, and Scottie. DS9 had Kor, Kang, Koloth, and, through some brilliant editing, the entire original series crew. All of these played by their original actors
Quark was the true antagonist. "It was Quark all allllloooonnnnnggggg!"
J/k. Quark was great
Love DS9… best trek for me. Enjoying lower decks a lot too!
Just watched the baseball episode last week for the first time. I forgot I was watching Star Trek. Good to throw those episodes in every once in a while.
I love your take on Trek. Totally makes sense, and it's why I watch again and again.
An excellent analysis. Thank you!