Yeah but that didn’t give the whole school to constantly pick on him everyday I understand why he wanted revenge but it shouldn’t of been jimmy but spinner and jay
He obviously didnt get in trouble with the law for his abuse of Terri or putting her in the hospital so i can see why they treated him the way they did
@@milkiekittie6659 exactly lmao. I don't recall that they ever showed her having moments with the other students. No one in constant contact. Just everyone bullying Rick. He gave them a reason to be the A holes they already were.
I agreed, Terri's friend cared less about her and more about their vengeance. If they really cared, that maybe they could have known that Terri wouldn't have wanted them to bully Rick.
Rewatching this, I thought it was foolish that Spinner was pinned on for the shooting of Jimmy. To be fair, I wouldn't blame the latter for cutting ties, but everyone played a part in Rick's boiling point. In the end it was Rick who decided to bring the gun in the first place, as well as the fact that the staff let him back knowing what Rick did, what he was like, and how the school would not approve.
I blame 1.) Rick for bringing a gun 2.) The students for not just ostracizing him but bullying him and verbally disparaging him. How they treated him was unacceptable. I can understand why they treated him the way they did but I cannot condone such treatment.
@@shreddersaurusrex323okay first of all the gun is not to blame and keep in mind it's a tool. My point is apparently the whole argument is he should never spinner I'm talking about should never have played that prank on Rick. Along with giving him false information. I should also remind you that anybody who was literally part of the ridicule bullying was on his list only one of them. Said I feel sorry for what happened to you so maybe perhaps all they had to do was feel sympathetic. Instead of being a bunch of jackasses that literally treated him like crap. What you did was wrong but he was trying to get better I frankly in my opinion he should have been transferred to another school. You could have started over there instead of literally having to come back where everybody knows what he did
@@monkeycat48dude, I’m a second amendment guy but STFU no one is “blaming the gun” here. This person literally said “I blame him for BRING a gun to SCHOOL”
Because he hurt a girl AND because he couldn't fight back. Most of the bandwagon jumpers who started beating on Rick didn't care about or even know Terri. They just followed the leader.
@@scottmcneely1927he had the balls to beat on his girlfriend though so he definitely could fight back, but like every other woman beater he was simply a coward.
As much of an ass he was to Terri, I started to feel bad for him after a while. I really blame the whole thing on Raditch. He allowed him back in the first place (Rick should've went to a different school and get a fresh start) and ignored Ricks complaints multiple times. So along w/ Jay, Spinner & Alex, Raditch as blood on his hands.
He obviously has issues I see what you mean. I get people were really angry because of what he did but he was sorry. They should have quit hassling him
That sequence from 1:43-2:45. The whole school pretends like they're friends with Terri. Really goes to show you that some people, if they want, will use any reason to pick on or abuse you if they can, assuming it's a PC reason and can be somewhat justified. It's personal aggressions in disguise as "support" for Terri. None of those kids, aside from her main crew, actually knew her or gave a shit about her.
I don't get why Paige feels sorry for Terri cuz she kinda made fun of her too and Spinner rejected her a few times and Alex and Jay don't really know her
@@carolbaskin1857 yeah alex just got off scott free with no concsequences for her bullying rick and causing him to want to shoot up the school while spinner was the only one who confessed to the paint and feathers, she was just as guilt but no one gave a shit that she proudly did it with a smile on her face. shes trash
His anger issues are understandable but the moment he took it out on his girl. The 1 person who gaf about him, he became the very people he hated. I can still sympathize with him but his actions can't be excused.
Evidently Rick childhood was screwed up I read where his dad was abusive to his mother and him which led him to learn this abusive behavior but he was in counseling to range his anger but the students just wouldn’t give him a chance to succeed but also see there point of view you can’t expect the girl you beat up who was loved by everyone to bring you in open arms after putting her in a hospital and coma
Rewatching this, everyone is at fault here. What Rick did was terrible and he needed to be punished or at least got help, but that kind of punishment is what led to the events of Jimmy to get shot. And the principal didn’t do enough to make it enough.
To be honest, Emma shouldn't have put her 2 cents in during the Rick situation, she wasn't exactly friends with Terri. From escalating the situation to the point where Rick almost caught a beatdown from Jay & Alex to then being friends with him.
I only felt bad because he did get bullied like crazy however I don’t Ever condone violence of any kind Rick really screwed up badly when he put his hands on Terri that was wrong very wrong and she ended up the hospital I really wish she got out the first time when he did it don’t want till it’s to late!
Maybe I’m wrong, but why did the mother allow her son to be in school with all this happening? I get money may be tight but as a parent if my kid ever did this I know hes gonna have a target on his back, and from what was shown here, thats not even the craziest that can be done, And sometimes not even the kids in school to, the parents or siblings will definitely plan something to really hurt the kid in multiple ways, I would rather go broke then see my kid beaten and traumatized, Mind You I’m not sympathetic to Rick, I just don’t under why the mom didn’t try another school.
No she didn’t. Rick never told his mom what was happening they show it at the end that he lied to his mom and let her think he was being accepted perfectly fine.
From what I rmr his mom wanted him to go to a different school, but Rick insisted on going back to bc he liked it at Degrassi and wanted to prove ppl he changed.
you know i have to be honest i think its admirable that rick wanted to show people at degrassi he had changed and the bullying was wrong but the reality is it was too soon it had only been a few months i think the wounds were still fresh i just think it would of been safer for rick to be at another school and maybe wait a few years and then tried to reach out to the people at degrassi like wheels did and also i think the reason mr. raditch was transfered to another school was because the board felt that if he hadn't let rick back to degrassi this whole thing would not have happened and i kind of agree sometime
i know rick was bullied a lot, but thatt doesn't mean that Terri had to paid for his anger!! Rick had the nerve of coming back to school after what he did! why he didn't got expelled?
@@zt1053 but school should know the situation, hitting a women its a terrible crime of course i get people hating him but if they knew what happened the best for him is to never let him back.
I rewatched the episode where he put Terri in a coma. Yes, he had major issues (mostly control and anger). Yes, abuse is wrong. But he didn’t mean to intentionally do that. And I’m not defending him by saying what he did was right, but the guy had a lot of issues and accounted out on emotions. Maybe before he came back to Degrassi he received psychiatric help to help stabilize him. The bullying was out of hand. I understand the anger initially, but it kept going and going until it was too late and he snapped. What did they expect would happen?
I honestly have to disagree. If that incident was the FIRST time anything like that happened with Terri and him then I could kind of see that point but he had hit her before and showed abusive in multiple forms. I see your point but the history of him being abusive was totally there.
@@_ann1313 Truth is, I never cared about Terri, at all. She was nothing more than a plot device after she left the show and after the whole school shooting, she has been never brought up again. It was like she was a fart, and that’s how I’ll remember her as. As a fart
I hate that they are doing this to try and create sympathy for Rick but I’m not a fan of how people thought they were being heroic by provoking an incident. There’s better ways to go about things than just beating a kid down until he decides to snap and takes thing further than they should have.
Prior to Rick Murray, Terri MacGregor never had a boyfriend. In a deleted scene from “Mercy Street” Alex and Marco told Raditch that Rick was a danger to women due to the fact that Rick’s anger is what almost killed Terri due to the fact that she hit her head on a rock and went into a coma as a result she transferred to a private school. There was a reason why Emma started the yellow ribbon campaign is to ostracize Rick but it ended up turning into bullying
Despite many ppl missed what the writers were trying to do here, I admire it. There’s a reason Sean was there at the end, though we don’t see much of him all season. Rick's character is one that we know has done permanent harm to another human being (Teri), and we can't believe he's here in school after doing so. He is bullied relentlessly because no one believes he is capable of change. Rick is confronted by the one person who he can actually intimately relate to, and he doesn't even know it. We we have been following Sean since day 1 of this show - yes he has disappointed us but we have seen his heart, we know despite his flaws andd his past that he can be trusted. Yet the only reason Sean is here is because he too caused permanent damage to another human being! Years have passed since then and Sean has grown into someone that we know while flawed, IS capable of being good... we are meant to ask ourselves if Rick, who is still a child, was so "bad" that he was beyond redemption. His peers thought so, and now he is dead so we will never have the answer
My god, I've watched so many times that this feels like it should have been obvious... They were just so good at making Sean likeable while making Rick so hateable...
I could see why ? That everyone is bullied Rick for what he did to Terri, but Rick didn't deserve to be treated badly all the time for his regret and his mistakes. Because he didn't do anything to other students
@@nytanykoalhe definitely didn't beat her within an inch of her life 😂 he grabbed her hand when she asked him to let her go until the force of him pulling her the opposite direction then suddenly letting go caused her to fall back and hit her head on a rock. While still unexcuseable it's definitely not the same as being beat within an inch of your life . This is why you can't just believe women's abuse stories you have the nerve to lie when we've all seen the show 🙄 😂
All of this madness, all of this suffering, all of this misery, all of this because most students in Degrassi couldn't let go of what Rick did to Terri. Instead of trying to forgiving him and understand Rick, the students all held onto their grudge against him like a blanket or a drug. They bullied him to he point that he snapped and started this school shooting. The students should have known that this school has a zero tolerance of bullying. But because of their selfish desire for vengeance, Rick is dead and Jimmy is paralyzed from the waist down and bound to a wheelchair, probably for the rest of his life. And the Principal didn't help matters because he was pressured by Terri's friends into letting Rick get bullied. JT came off as an asshole in this mess, laughing at Rick's expense and treating him like he's some psycho who deserves to be locked up or humiliated. All Rick wanted as an education and some respect. But the students treated him like a psycho without hearing him out.
literally how do yall sympathize with him. Like he had it coming in my eyes. Especially how much terri meant to Paige and how much paige meant to spinner. although i do think once paige and spinner broke up, the plot kinda got lost. I don’t feel bad for him though, this is the exact treatment abusers deserve
Like most abusers rick would nearly kill terri then apologize then do it again then apologize again then do it again and so on. I think i saw a similar situation in degrassi classic. Abuser maybe truly sorry (or at least very convincing) yet they refused to get help or stop themselves in anyway of doing it again. Still they expect the girls to stay with them anyway. Who would believe the abuser is truly sorry? More importantly, who would believe the abuser would never do it again? You decide.
The difference is though, the writers had the character himself acknowledge that he what he did was wrong and that he was clearly trying to get help, he was going to therapy. He was trying to get help but for some reason out of his control he was put back in Degrassi for everyone to exacerbate his mental issues.
wasn't it his choice to return to the 1 school he wouldn't be welcomed? He went after those who gave 2nd chance instead of his bullies. Jimmy for what he "over heard" and emma for rejecting him. toby would of been caught in crossfire. Sean didn't even take part in the bullying. If he targeted jay or spinner or Alex I might of believed he was sincere sense your right he did claim he was in therapy. It just doesn't make sense to me. It's hard to believe in him when he went after his friends instead of his enemies
@@zosonte129he told emma when he came back that he wanted to Come back cause it was home. He wanted to show everyone he changed. I would of believed him but he went after his friends not his bullies.
@@zosonte129Abusers acknowledge they were wrong ALL THE TIME! That literally means nothing. Also why would anyone care that Rick changed? That doesn't change what happened.
@@zombiewarrior88 He had issues. He was getting help for said issue. Their treatment of him exacerbated his issues and led him to escalate. The legal system handles issues like this according to preset and well thought out guidelines.
It's interesting to see a shift in the fandom's general opinion about Rick. During the release of these episodes, most seemed to sympathize with his situation after the coma incident. Nowadays, it's the opposite. Most people don't feel sympathy for him or even go as far to say that he deserved the constant that harassment he received. I wonder what that says about our human nature?
That’s a lie. All I see are comments feeling sorry for him. And a lot of them are years old. Either way, if people don’t feel sorry for him, then they don’t feel sorry for him. He’s 100% deserved it. Not to mention he brought it on himself. It says a lot about you that you care more about him being harassed than you do him being an abuser.
@DavidKen878 Wrong. I care about both parts equally, as they are both equally wrong, deserved, or not. I'm simply making an observation. Also, I ended with a question rather than a statement in my original post, so you couldn't have known what I was initially thinking without first making assumptions. As far as the Fandom goes, I was talking about the fanbase at large, not exclusively this comments section, even tho the top comment supports my initial statement. Seems to me you choose what you wanna see to support your argument.
@@DavidKen878 a Paige is the one who told Terri to go with Rick to the woods she didn't try to stop her I wish that annoying girl would just keep her mouth shut she got to the hospital and told Terri father she didn't know Rick was like that I really have a love and hate for Degrassi 🤯
@@deshawnbrooks1307 They got into a fight and said things they didn't mean. Whats your point? She didn't Rick was going to do that to her. Funny how you remember that part, but not the part about her inviting Rick to the park so Terri wouldn't be left alone with him.
I think the fact that there is any sympathy for him at all speaks to how well the actor portrayed him. They could have hired someone completely unlikable and one dimensional but they chose someone that you wouldn't normally think of as an abuser. I think that one decision gave the character depth and why this whole situation is conflicting to watch. You don't wanna feel bad for him because of the awful things he's done, but because he appears so friendly and unassuming, you can't help but feel for him when he's getting all of this humiliation.
The only two people who didn't deserve any harsh cruelty, physical damage, and treatment were Terri and Toby. And if we're being honest, Emma started all of this crap, Radish escalated it by not doing anything, then Jimmy, Jey & Spinner morphed the situation into the tragedy it became. I never felt bad for Rick, but you don't push mentally unstable people into a corner.
Rick was a vulnerable narcissist who, instead of moving on and going to another school, chose to stay and force others to like / forgive him. That's not how you seek forgiveness or redemption. I don't condone bullying, but these are kids, and they are only acting the way kids react. It's also obvious the writers, much like everyone did at the time, equated the Columbine shootings with bullying. Which, for the record, was an excuse, as both kids had severe issues outside of "bullying", and were essentially neglected by their parents and acting out.
This happened to a kid at my school, but it was a bit worse. The only difference is that he caught on quickly, and handled it in the best way possible: by suing for damages! A great lawyer once said, "If a poor man punches you, punch back, but if a rich man pinches you, let him do it and bill him later."
Everyone is talking about Rick, but let's talk about classic Emma here. She hates Rick (obviously), then she does this whole thing at school where they protest domestic abuse so the entire school goes against Rick. Now the entire school hates him and bullies him, and she's upset about that. When she's the one who started it?!
I just watched radish as a teacher back in degrassi Jr high. Thank you TH-cam. He graded the exact same paper two different grades before realizing it was the same paper. Stereotype his students. Name calling his own students. How dow does a teacher like that become principal?
This is why Stefan Brogren who played Simpson should've became principal he even suspended Emma for voicing her opinion about gmo food eventhough after she told him she would stop
I honestly thought that Rick didn’t deserve this crap UNTIL I actually found out what he did to Terri. Let’s just say, I ain’t providing any sympathy for him anymore.
Im honestly suprised so many people are justifying his bullying. Like, yes, it would have been better for him to just go to a new school overall, but it was HIS school. Yes, he beat his girlfriend, but he was trying to change. No, that doesn't justify HIM bringing the gun to school, but him bringing the gun doesn't justify the bullying. Its one thing to socially isolate someone for not trusting them; Forcing them away from you in all situations is a little more extreme; but actively taking opportunities to make their life hell when they're just going about their day is just plain bullying. People justifying it act like they would do the same (you would have to have a lot of anger to see someone going about their day and seek out to harass them)
Yeah I think Rick was kinda smart for staying inside the car. Spinner should’ve just left his ass alone. Do you really think Terri wanted to see Rick’s face at the hospital after what he did to Terri?
as much as he deserved his ass kicked honestly it sucked seeing folks being turned just like him , I know I would of done the same …but to be just like what he did to Terri nah …he needed to go to a different school or homeschool for sure . Just cuz a monster do what they do doesn’t mean we should 2 .
Honestly i didnt feel bad for rick at all. He hit terri, put her in a coma the principal was like no one put any one in a coma and mr simpson was like we cant tell details well spinner and paige were there so obviously they know what happened besides rick. Idk if rick was angry cuz his dad wasnt around or what but really he should have gotten help for his anger issues and went to a different school. Rick going back to degrassi was a mistake on his part. Ricks mom ddint know the truth even if she did she proably wouldnt believe it. Rick got his karma when everyone bullied him and hated him. The only time i felt bad for him a little bit is when emma told him she pittied him and told him to get a clue.
Rick gets alot of needlessly strong hate in the comment section.. People tend to forget that he's supposed to be an immature teen, who got caught up in his emotions when he accidentally, yes accidentally put Terri into the hospital. Then he returns to school to get this level of bullying!? Rick was abusive yeah, but not to the extreme people are saying he was. Not enough to warrant this level of treatment. Harassed the kid so much he mentally snapped and sought out ending the lives of the people who harassed him. Even in this state, couldn't look people in the eyes when he shot.
I actually thought it was brave of him to go back. When he hurt Teri he probably thought he killed her at first and that was a big eye opener for him. I wouldn’t have been surprised if he tried to kill himself with his dad’s gun. It must have taken a lot to get the help he needed and confront the people he hurt, he didn’t try to runaway from his problems and wanted to make things right, but all of that came undone because everyone chose to give in to anger, fear, and hate and look what happened. They didn’t have to forgive him right away, just leave him alone and keep an eye on him. No matter what, never give in to anger and hate.
@@DavidKen878 I mean she should’ve taken him out. Transfer him to another school. He put a student in a coma. No amount of positive attitude or French beanies are gonna change that 😅 He needed a fresh start somewhere else
@@NoIDontActuallyLiveInSeattle That's true. At the same time, he should've wanted to go to a new school too. That's the reason Terri left. She didn't want to be there with him. That's really why I never felt bad for him.
@@DavidKen878 yeah, no one really feels bad for him. He was an incel to the core. Selfcentered, childish, violent when he doesn’t get his way and then doesn’t seem to understand why no one likes them. Obviously it’s a them problem
I felt sorry for rick at first because I thought he was overhated character but what he did to his girlfriend I can careless about him , bullying isn't cool but assault isn't either two wrongs don't make it right
After a while I get it the school turns on him, bucks with him and isolates him, but after a point that needs to stop, him coming back and shooting the school was bad but he is a dude obviously mentally ill should have gotten help
Looking back on this now I can’t feel sorry for Rick you literally returned at the scene of the crime that got you in deep trouble to begin you knew what was waiting for you as soon you returned to degrassi what you thought you was going make friends sorry abuses rapists murderers pedophile get no love from me at all!!
But they shouldn’t should’ve treat him like that you want to push a psychopath like him be my guest but don’t be surprised if end up on the barrel of a gun
I understood the initial bullying, and the hating him, but honestly once jay kicked his ass at the dot it should’ve just been neutralized right there. Throwing him in the dumpster was wild. And pouring the paint on him was way out of line. P.s. alex got away with that
The way people act towards this is so annoying. The problem with his situation is that people started out upset about Terri, then random people that never even knew her realized that he was just an easy and socially acceptable target. That's when it turned into a problem.
Rick was a messed up delinquent teen. Domestic abuse. Some say the coma was an accident. Others say it wasn't. Either way the abuse were not accidents. The coma is the result of rick abusive behavior. Terri was lucky she survived. Rick was no innocent. Some say he deserved what he got. Others say he needed help. Though i would not have bullied him, i wouldn't of defended him either. Rick was no innocent. Rick should of moved away and start over else where. Instead he insisted in returning to degrassi. What did he think was going to happen? How did he think he was going to be treated? Did he think that nothing would of change? That his classmates were going to pretend he didn't almost kill his girlfriend? Then he brings a gun, not to shoot all who bullied him, but to shoot what few friends who actually gave him the 2nd chance he so craved. All because of what he "over heard". Friends who believed he changed yet he was quick to believe whatever he "over hears" rather than just ask or give benifit of doubt.
Two things can be true at once yk. Spinner and Jimmy were bullies so Jimmy getting shot is STILL his fault although Rick was a pos himself he also had that bullying coming…this show is too good
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i didn’t feel sorry for rick tbh. he abused his girlfriend and put her in a coma and then had the nerve to return to degrassi the following year
Yeah but that didn’t give the whole school to constantly pick on him everyday I understand why he wanted revenge but it shouldn’t of been jimmy but spinner and jay
@@twilliams4345 Nobody said it did but he was constantly picking on Terri everyday.
Me neither! He was the real bully because he wasn't treating Terri right. He makes me sick and may he burn in hell.
@@twilliams4345 Alex too
He obviously didnt get in trouble with the law for his abuse of Terri or putting her in the hospital so i can see why they treated him the way they did
i didnt even get the forshadowing of jimmy shooting the waterhose at the rick while he was driving away until just now. holy crap.
Oh my god. Me neither
I saw it.
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Kendrick was smiling
What do Rick Murray and Kendrick Lamar have in common?
They both took a shot at Drake.
I get being upset about Terri, but its clear as day that they could care less about her and used her situation as a reason to bully Rick😅
Did they even check on her lol
@@milkiekittie6659 exactly lmao. I don't recall that they ever showed her having moments with the other students. No one in constant contact. Just everyone bullying Rick. He gave them a reason to be the A holes they already were.
@@Jewetyright LOLO like nope I don’t remember them seeing her, helping her family etc. just nothing lolol
@@Jewety Have you ever heard of the saying, "Two wrongs don't make a right."
I agreed, Terri's friend cared less about her and more about their vengeance. If they really cared, that maybe they could have known that Terri wouldn't have wanted them to bully Rick.
Rewatching this, I thought it was foolish that Spinner was pinned on for the shooting of Jimmy. To be fair, I wouldn't blame the latter for cutting ties, but everyone played a part in Rick's boiling point. In the end it was Rick who decided to bring the gun in the first place, as well as the fact that the staff let him back knowing what Rick did, what he was like, and how the school would not approve.
Spinner was an ass for wrongly accusing Jimmy. He should have been ostracized longer than he was.
I blame
1.) Rick for bringing a gun
2.) The students for not just ostracizing him but bullying him and verbally disparaging him.
How they treated him was unacceptable. I can understand why they treated him the way they did but I cannot condone such treatment.
@@shreddersaurusrex323okay first of all the gun is not to blame and keep in mind it's a tool. My point is apparently the whole argument is he should never spinner I'm talking about should never have played that prank on Rick. Along with giving him false information. I should also remind you that anybody who was literally part of the ridicule bullying was on his list only one of them. Said I feel sorry for what happened to you so maybe perhaps all they had to do was feel sympathetic. Instead of being a bunch of jackasses that literally treated him like crap. What you did was wrong but he was trying to get better I frankly in my opinion he should have been transferred to another school. You could have started over there instead of literally having to come back where everybody knows what he did
@@monkeycat48dude, I’m a second amendment guy but STFU no one is “blaming the gun” here. This person literally said “I blame him for BRING a gun to SCHOOL”
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He wasn’t bullied because he was a nerd. He was bullied because he put a girl in a coma
And too top it off he was unlikable
And labeled a pyscho idk why Toby was his friend
Because he hurt a girl AND because he couldn't fight back. Most of the bandwagon jumpers who started beating on Rick didn't care about or even know Terri. They just followed the leader.
@@scottmcneely1927 I think they all had distaste for a guy that would hit a girl
@@scottmcneely1927he had the balls to beat on his girlfriend though so he definitely could fight back, but like every other woman beater he was simply a coward.
110 high schools in the Toronto District School Board, go to any other one.
As much of an ass he was to Terri, I started to feel bad for him after a while. I really blame the whole thing on Raditch. He allowed him back in the first place (Rick should've went to a different school and get a fresh start) and ignored Ricks complaints multiple times. So along w/ Jay, Spinner & Alex, Raditch as blood on his hands.
He should not have been back to school period. He should have been in juvenile hall.
I guess I can agree. Yeah, Raditch should've never let him back in the first place.
@@wickedwonka9155 agreed. He should have been jailed.
He obviously has issues I see what you mean. I get people were really angry because of what he did but he was sorry. They should have quit hassling him
@@wickedwonka9155 but yes agree after what he did to his girlfriend.
Sean, Craig, Manny, Liberty, JT, and Toby were the only other ones who never bullied Rick
JT didn’t bully rick to his face but he did make fun of him to Toby
@@thenotoriousfinesser2907 Sometimes I can't but feel that JT was an asshole to Rick.
@@thenotoriousfinesser2907True
Marco didn't either
@@bluecatkyTrue but he hated him for what he did to Terri and Jimmy
Looks like they all bullied Rick. So I don't get why they scapegoated Spinner after the shooting.
Because he was behind the prank on a tv show at school and spinner got Jimmy shot.
@@zt1053Exactly, but I have no clue why Alex didn't face any consequences.
@@zt1053That was actually Jay's idea
@@jumpers500 Feminist writers were the reason Alex faced no consequences.
@@scottmcneely1927 The same feminist writers who gave Peter a redemption arc
That sequence from 1:43-2:45. The whole school pretends like they're friends with Terri. Really goes to show you that some people, if they want, will use any reason to pick on or abuse you if they can, assuming it's a PC reason and can be somewhat justified. It's personal aggressions in disguise as "support" for Terri. None of those kids, aside from her main crew, actually knew her or gave a shit about her.
I don't get why Paige feels sorry for Terri cuz she kinda made fun of her too and Spinner rejected her a few times and Alex and Jay don't really know her
@@funwithanthony6133Alex mom was abused so she felt deeply about the situation
@@carolbaskin1857 yeah alex just got off scott free with no concsequences for her bullying rick and causing him to want to shoot up the school while spinner was the only one who confessed to the paint and feathers, she was just as guilt but no one gave a shit that she proudly did it with a smile on her face. shes trash
You nailed it. Justice and revenge are two entirely different things.
His anger issues are understandable but the moment he took it out on his girl. The 1 person who gaf about him, he became the very people he hated. I can still sympathize with him but his actions can't be excused.
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Evidently Rick childhood was screwed up I read where his dad was abusive to his mother and him which led him to learn this abusive behavior but he was in counseling to range his anger but the students just wouldn’t give him a chance to succeed but also see there point of view you can’t expect the girl you beat up who was loved by everyone to bring you in open arms after putting her in a hospital and coma
If that the case the father probably regrets forever
Sean and Ellie were the only ones who didn't give Rick that treatment
Sean knew he was only a poorly placed rock away from having done the same thing to Emma three years back. So he knew he had no room to judge Rick
didn't think abut it but yeah they never bothered rick probably because they were just as much an outcast as rick was at the time
Toby also
@@guru_basketball_kieroManny too
And because of the guilt that's why he left Toronto
Rewatching this, everyone is at fault here. What Rick did was terrible and he needed to be punished or at least got help, but that kind of punishment is what led to the events of Jimmy to get shot. And the principal didn’t do enough to make it enough.
To be honest, Emma shouldn't have put her 2 cents in during the Rick situation, she wasn't exactly friends with Terri. From escalating the situation to the point where Rick almost caught a beatdown from Jay & Alex to then being friends with him.
The principal was terrible, I'm glad simpson put him in his place for it
These episodes changed tv history and media for teens forever
It was understandable when some of the students shunned Rick but when Jay and Alex did the bullying, it really went too far
Revenge can make you do horrible things it’s like a cycle.
For some reason Emma bullying was the only one that annoyed me. Like she just wanted attention
I got super annoyed when she was blocking him in the hallway. Like girl, let that boy go to class!
@@niabelizaire3596 right? Like no one cares Emma you’re not scary lmao
Literally. I hate Emma so much 😂😂😂
yeahh, tryna be cool and hang with paige 😭
I normally agree but thing is her friends were scared and she was looking out for them
I only felt bad because he did get bullied like crazy however I don’t Ever condone violence of any kind Rick really screwed up badly when he put his hands on Terri that was wrong very wrong and she ended up the hospital I really wish she got out the first time when he did it don’t want till it’s to late!
Drake the type of guys to say “you in very big trouble mister.” Before bullying someone.
emma’s hair is giving
Maybe I’m wrong, but why did the mother allow her son to be in school with all this happening? I get money may be tight but as a parent if my kid ever did this I know hes gonna have a target on his back, and from what was shown here, thats not even the craziest that can be done, And sometimes not even the kids in school to, the parents or siblings will definitely plan something to really hurt the kid in multiple ways, I would rather go broke then see my kid beaten and traumatized, Mind You I’m not sympathetic to Rick, I just don’t under why the mom didn’t try another school.
No she didn’t. Rick never told his mom what was happening they show it at the end that he lied to his mom and let her think he was being accepted perfectly fine.
From what little is shown of the mom she’s a bit naive and unable to see when her son is lying to make her feel better.
From what I rmr his mom wanted him to go to a different school, but Rick insisted on going back to bc he liked it at Degrassi and wanted to prove ppl he changed.
you know i have to be honest i think its admirable that rick wanted to show people at degrassi he had changed and the bullying was wrong but the reality is it was too soon it had only been a few months i think the wounds were still fresh i just think it would of been safer for rick to be at another school and maybe wait a few years and then tried to reach out to the people at degrassi like wheels did and also i think the reason mr. raditch was transfered to another school was because the board felt that if he hadn't let rick back to degrassi this whole thing would not have happened and i kind of agree sometime
Yeah but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the first time he’s shown he changed right? Wasn’t he saying that before putting Terri in a coma?
@@Mr.PR2000Yes! You can tell the people in these comments have never dealt with abuse before. They care more about him getting bullied.
“Stay away from my son! BOTH OF YOU! I’ll give you some SPAM!”
Jesus, that woman sounds like she got pulled right out of a Monty Python sketch lol.
She sounded like a ghost on “both of you”
Seeing abusers getting a taste of their own medicine is the most satisfying thing to see. Rick deserved every bit of his karma.
I believe he was really trying to be a better person before the paint thing pushed him over the edge.
I gotta admit, it was hilarious when Rick ran into Drake’s music video and then ran from Drake’s crew.
REVENGE 😅😂
???
@@coryjayeu 20 years later payback
@@corduerorose9747 lol nah I would love to see that
@@coryjayeu and that's why 🎶 he's upset he's upset 🎶😂🤣😈🔥
Degrassi invented cancel culture
i know rick was bullied a lot, but thatt doesn't mean that Terri had to paid for his anger!! Rick had the nerve of coming back to school after what he did! why he didn't got expelled?
I guess because it didn’t happen during school
@@zt1053 but school should know the situation, hitting a women its a terrible crime of course i get people hating him but if they knew what happened the best for him is to never let him back.
Nah they been picking on Rick
I rewatched the episode where he put Terri in a coma. Yes, he had major issues (mostly control and anger). Yes, abuse is wrong. But he didn’t mean to intentionally do that. And I’m not defending him by saying what he did was right, but the guy had a lot of issues and accounted out on emotions. Maybe before he came back to Degrassi he received psychiatric help to help stabilize him. The bullying was out of hand. I understand the anger initially, but it kept going and going until it was too late and he snapped. What did they expect would happen?
I guess bullying in Degrassi is basically the students hobby.
I honestly have to disagree. If that incident was the FIRST time anything like that happened with Terri and him then I could kind of see that point but he had hit her before and showed abusive in multiple forms. I see your point but the history of him being abusive was totally there.
@@_ann1313 Truth is, I never cared about Terri, at all. She was nothing more than a plot device after she left the show and after the whole school shooting, she has been never brought up again. It was like she was a fart, and that’s how I’ll remember her as. As a fart
He did mention therapy before
I hate that they are doing this to try and create sympathy for Rick but I’m not a fan of how people thought they were being heroic by provoking an incident. There’s better ways to go about things than just beating a kid down until he decides to snap and takes thing further than they should have.
Like?? What did they think was gonna happen? It’s like continuously beating an animal into a corner and then crying “I had no idea!” when it attacks.
Everyone in school bullied him. Wow! Terri must have been extremely popular in school
She was since she hung out with Paige and Paige the popular girl
Prior to Rick Murray, Terri MacGregor never had a boyfriend. In a deleted scene from “Mercy Street” Alex and Marco told Raditch that Rick was a danger to women due to the fact that Rick’s anger is what almost killed Terri due to the fact that she hit her head on a rock and went into a coma as a result she transferred to a private school. There was a reason why Emma started the yellow ribbon campaign is to ostracize Rick but it ended up turning into bullying
It's satisfying to aee Rick get bulled and threatened because of what he did to Terri.
Despite many ppl missed what the writers were trying to do here, I admire it. There’s a reason Sean was there at the end, though we don’t see much of him all season. Rick's character is one that we know has done permanent harm to another human being (Teri), and we can't believe he's here in school after doing so. He is bullied relentlessly because no one believes he is capable of change. Rick is confronted by the one person who he can actually intimately relate to, and he doesn't even know it. We we have been following Sean since day 1 of this show - yes he has disappointed us but we have seen his heart, we know despite his flaws andd his past that he can be trusted. Yet the only reason Sean is here is because he too caused permanent damage to another human being! Years have passed since then and Sean has grown into someone that we know while flawed, IS capable of being good... we are meant to ask ourselves if Rick, who is still a child, was so "bad" that he was beyond redemption. His peers thought so, and now he is dead so we will never have the answer
My god, I've watched so many times that this feels like it should have been obvious... They were just so good at making Sean likeable while making Rick so hateable...
I’m so glad someone understood what the writers were trying to convey.
Excellent point
Ephraim Ellis was one of the best actors on Degrassi
Yes he was. He and Mike Lobel both could have given lessons.
I could see why ? That everyone is bullied Rick for what he did to Terri, but Rick didn't deserve to be treated badly all the time for his regret and his mistakes. Because he didn't do anything to other students
You wonder why these kids end up picking a gun with these type of treatments.
He beat his girlfriend within an inch of her life…that’s why they did this
@NyTa Nykoal Wasn't he being bullied prior 2 that too tho?
@@wiseguy240Winston no ...
@@nytanykoaldoesn't change the fact that he could snap and bring a gun to school. Hey, let's bully the psycho, that sounds like a GENIUS idea
@@nytanykoalhe definitely didn't beat her within an inch of her life 😂 he grabbed her hand when she asked him to let her go until the force of him pulling her the opposite direction then suddenly letting go caused her to fall back and hit her head on a rock. While still unexcuseable it's definitely not the same as being beat within an inch of your life . This is why you can't just believe women's abuse stories you have the nerve to lie when we've all seen the show 🙄 😂
All of this madness, all of this suffering, all of this misery, all of this because most students in Degrassi couldn't let go of what Rick did to Terri. Instead of trying to forgiving him and understand Rick, the students all held onto their grudge against him like a blanket or a drug. They bullied him to he point that he snapped and started this school shooting. The students should have known that this school has a zero tolerance of bullying. But because of their selfish desire for vengeance, Rick is dead and Jimmy is paralyzed from the waist down and bound to a wheelchair, probably for the rest of his life. And the Principal didn't help matters because he was pressured by Terri's friends into letting Rick get bullied. JT came off as an asshole in this mess, laughing at Rick's expense and treating him like he's some psycho who deserves to be locked up or humiliated. All Rick wanted as an education and some respect. But the students treated him like a psycho without hearing him out.
how could u feel bad and understand an abuser. ick ick ick
@@mattiemackay7525 I know what Rick was wrong, but half of Degrassi took the whole bullying thing way out of hand. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
@@samflood5631right
@@samflood5631Its crazy how you care more about the abuser getting bullied than the abuser being an abuser.
@@DavidKen878 Bullying is wrong, regardless of who that person is.
Seeing all of this so well put together knowing what its leading up to really warms me inside :D powpow
Bullying warms you up
Degrassi was wild because no one ever actually bullied anyone like this lol. It was just emphasis on mental illness
Oh no. People are ruthless. Thats how people who are accused of rape or domestic violence are treated
You’d be surprised how serious bullying can become when it’s gone unpunished for so long.
I’m sorry for rick after abusing women and putting his hands on her!!! JUSTICE FOR WOMEN❤🌷🌷🌷🌷
literally how do yall sympathize with him. Like he had it coming in my eyes. Especially how much terri meant to Paige and how much paige meant to spinner. although i do think once paige and spinner broke up, the plot kinda got lost. I don’t feel bad for him though, this is the exact treatment abusers deserve
LMAO they didn't care it's fucked up but they been bullying Rick
0:00-0:36,
Me: Spinner should have punched out Rick when he had the chance.
Also Me: He'll pay for what he did Terri.
Why did he even bother coming back to Degrassi in the first place. He should’ve just stayed away
He could've done school remotely and still get his diploma
@@funwithanthony6133 i wish they would've sent him to Lakehurst
Like most abusers rick would nearly kill terri then apologize then do it again then apologize again then do it again and so on. I think i saw a similar situation in degrassi classic.
Abuser maybe truly sorry (or at least very convincing) yet they refused to get help or stop themselves in anyway of doing it again. Still they expect the girls to stay with them anyway.
Who would believe the abuser is truly sorry? More importantly, who would believe the abuser would never do it again? You decide.
The difference is though, the writers had the character himself acknowledge that he what he did was wrong and that he was clearly trying to get help, he was going to therapy. He was trying to get help but for some reason out of his control he was put back in Degrassi for everyone to exacerbate his mental issues.
wasn't it his choice to return to the 1 school he wouldn't be welcomed? He went after those who gave 2nd chance instead of his bullies. Jimmy for what he "over heard" and emma for rejecting him. toby would of been caught in crossfire. Sean didn't even take part in the bullying.
If he targeted jay or spinner or Alex I might of believed he was sincere sense your right he did claim he was in therapy. It just doesn't make sense to me. It's hard to believe in him when he went after his friends instead of his enemies
@@zosonte129he told emma when he came back that he wanted to Come back cause it was home. He wanted to show everyone he changed. I would of believed him but he went after his friends not his bullies.
@@zosonte129Abusers acknowledge they were wrong ALL THE TIME! That literally means nothing. Also why would anyone care that Rick changed? That doesn't change what happened.
@@signer25He told Terri he was going to therapy and was changed. Clearly that was a lie.
Watching this in 2023 I understand why Rick went off. The way they treated him was unbearable.
He started it. Why are you sympathizing with him?
@@zombiewarrior88 He had issues. He was getting help for said issue. Their treatment of him exacerbated his issues and led him to escalate.
The legal system handles issues like this according to preset and well thought out guidelines.
@@shreddersaurusrex323 Legal system gets a lot wrong
@@jamesbevan9939 It’s there for a reason.
@@shreddersaurusrex323 AFTER he put his girlfriend in a coma. I'm calling bullshit on your argument.
Rick is main characters degrassi best thing cameos appearance.
This was on tv yesterday. I’m 23 and was binge watching like a mf 😂 I used to watch this show in middle school..
It's interesting to see a shift in the fandom's general opinion about Rick. During the release of these episodes, most seemed to sympathize with his situation after the coma incident. Nowadays, it's the opposite. Most people don't feel sympathy for him or even go as far to say that he deserved the constant that harassment he received. I wonder what that says about our human nature?
That’s a lie. All I see are comments feeling sorry for him. And a lot of them are years old. Either way, if people don’t feel sorry for him, then they don’t feel sorry for him. He’s 100% deserved it. Not to mention he brought it on himself. It says a lot about you that you care more about him being harassed than you do him being an abuser.
@DavidKen878 Wrong. I care about both parts equally, as they are both equally wrong, deserved, or not. I'm simply making an observation. Also, I ended with a question rather than a statement in my original post, so you couldn't have known what I was initially thinking without first making assumptions. As far as the Fandom goes, I was talking about the fanbase at large, not exclusively this comments section, even tho the top comment supports my initial statement. Seems to me you choose what you wanna see to support your argument.
@@DavidKen878 a Paige is the one who told Terri to go with Rick to the woods she didn't try to stop her I wish that annoying girl would just keep her mouth shut she got to the hospital and told Terri father she didn't know Rick was like that I really have a love and hate for Degrassi 🤯
@@deshawnbrooks1307 They got into a fight and said things they didn't mean. Whats your point? She didn't Rick was going to do that to her. Funny how you remember that part, but not the part about her inviting Rick to the park so Terri wouldn't be left alone with him.
I think the fact that there is any sympathy for him at all speaks to how well the actor portrayed him. They could have hired someone completely unlikable and one dimensional but they chose someone that you wouldn't normally think of as an abuser. I think that one decision gave the character depth and why this whole situation is conflicting to watch. You don't wanna feel bad for him because of the awful things he's done, but because he appears so friendly and unassuming, you can't help but feel for him when he's getting all of this humiliation.
The only two people who didn't deserve any harsh cruelty, physical damage, and treatment were Terri and Toby. And if we're being honest, Emma started all of this crap, Radish escalated it by not doing anything, then Jimmy, Jey & Spinner morphed the situation into the tragedy it became. I never felt bad for Rick, but you don't push mentally unstable people into a corner.
So I got a feeling that they’re taking on him way too far
My thing is why did his dumbass move into the school, THE SAME SCHOOL, where his victim used to go to? He thought people was gonna forget?!
6:02 They're all gonna laugh at you!
The school dropped the ball.
Twitter the TV Show.
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lol they made this big ass deal about Terry for this story line, but never spoke of her again afterwards. Smh
Yo Jimmy, how did that chair feel?
THEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT YOU!
No wonder he became the spiritual avatar of Eric and Dylan!
As messed as the Terri situation was, this was just as bad. They used her situation to justify bullying Rick and then he snapped.
6:01 Dairy of a Wimpy Kid : The Last Straw
Emma caused all of this too.
I remember when Calvin threw a piece of paper at Rick and Calvin snap his fingers it was kinda hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂
Spinner aka Gavin not Calvin
@@funwithanthony6133 Gavin huh lol that's a strange name
Rick was a vulnerable narcissist who, instead of moving on and going to another school, chose to stay and force others to like / forgive him. That's not how you seek forgiveness or redemption. I don't condone bullying, but these are kids, and they are only acting the way kids react. It's also obvious the writers, much like everyone did at the time, equated the Columbine shootings with bullying. Which, for the record, was an excuse, as both kids had severe issues outside of "bullying", and were essentially neglected by their parents and acting out.
This happened to a kid at my school, but it was a bit worse. The only difference is that he caught on quickly, and handled it in the best way possible: by suing for damages! A great lawyer once said, "If a poor man punches you, punch back, but if a rich man pinches you, let him do it and bill him later."
Everyone is talking about Rick, but let's talk about classic Emma here.
She hates Rick (obviously), then she does this whole thing at school where they protest domestic abuse so the entire school goes against Rick. Now the entire school hates him and bullies him, and she's upset about that. When she's the one who started it?!
I just watched radish as a teacher back in degrassi Jr high. Thank you TH-cam. He graded the exact same paper two different grades before realizing it was the same paper. Stereotype his students. Name calling his own students. How dow does a teacher like that become principal?
This is why Stefan Brogren who played Simpson should've became principal he even suspended Emma for voicing her opinion about gmo food eventhough after she told him she would stop
The tar and feathers was too far
That was yellow paint
@@TheLizKirkland the yellow paint and feathers was too far
@@onn8166 they made him look like a baby chicken 🐥 🐤 🐣
I never watched the show, what exactly did Rick do?
I honestly thought that Rick didn’t deserve this crap UNTIL I actually found out what he did to Terri. Let’s just say, I ain’t providing any sympathy for him anymore.
Facts
Im honestly suprised so many people are justifying his bullying.
Like, yes, it would have been better for him to just go to a new school overall, but it was HIS school.
Yes, he beat his girlfriend, but he was trying to change.
No, that doesn't justify HIM bringing the gun to school, but him bringing the gun doesn't justify the bullying.
Its one thing to socially isolate someone for not trusting them; Forcing them away from you in all situations is a little more extreme; but actively taking opportunities to make their life hell when they're just going about their day is just plain bullying.
People justifying it act like they would do the same (you would have to have a lot of anger to see someone going about their day and seek out to harass them)
Yeah I think Rick was kinda smart for staying inside the car. Spinner should’ve just left his ass alone. Do you really think Terri wanted to see Rick’s face at the hospital after what he did to Terri?
as much as he deserved his ass kicked honestly it sucked seeing folks being turned just like him , I know I would of done the same …but to be just like what he did to Terri nah …he needed to go to a different school or homeschool for sure . Just cuz a monster do what they do doesn’t mean we should 2 .
I don't think Marco has a part of this at all, right?
Ngl, Drake’s character 1000% had it coming
Honestly i didnt feel bad for rick at all. He hit terri, put her in a coma the principal was like no one put any one in a coma and mr simpson was like we cant tell details well spinner and paige were there so obviously they know what happened besides rick. Idk if rick was angry cuz his dad wasnt around or what but really he should have gotten help for his anger issues and went to a different school. Rick going back to degrassi was a mistake on his part. Ricks mom ddint know the truth even if she did she proably wouldnt believe it. Rick got his karma when everyone bullied him and hated him. The only time i felt bad for him a little bit is when emma told him she pittied him and told him to get a clue.
Rick gets alot of needlessly strong hate in the comment section..
People tend to forget that he's supposed to be an immature teen, who got caught up in his emotions when he accidentally, yes accidentally put Terri into the hospital.
Then he returns to school to get this level of bullying!? Rick was abusive yeah, but not to the extreme people are saying he was. Not enough to warrant this level of treatment.
Harassed the kid so much he mentally snapped and sought out ending the lives of the people who harassed him. Even in this state, couldn't look people in the eyes when he shot.
This was Emma's "stop the violence " campaign, don't cha know?
What are the orange ribbons for? I see rick is not wearing one.
I believe it’s for domestic violence.
And pink ribbon 🎗 is for cancer awareness
I don’t know why all of you hard on Rick! This part 6:03 make super sad and the others were the bullies
I had a friend like Rick and he had autism and I hope he’s doing well in life but man he was a little off I guess
This was crazy. What they did was messed up but I cant have sympathy for Rick!
I actually thought it was brave of him to go back. When he hurt Teri he probably thought he killed her at first and that was a big eye opener for him. I wouldn’t have been surprised if he tried to kill himself with his dad’s gun. It must have taken a lot to get the help he needed and confront the people he hurt, he didn’t try to runaway from his problems and wanted to make things right, but all of that came undone because everyone chose to give in to anger, fear, and hate and look what happened. They didn’t have to forgive him right away, just leave him alone and keep an eye on him. No matter what, never give in to anger and hate.
rickmurray🧔🏻
I low key blame the mom….why would you put his ass in the school after what he did?
What do you mean? He was already enrolled at Degrassi.
@@DavidKen878 I mean she should’ve taken him out. Transfer him to another school. He put a student in a coma. No amount of positive attitude or French beanies are gonna change that 😅 He needed a fresh start somewhere else
@@NoIDontActuallyLiveInSeattle That's true. At the same time, he should've wanted to go to a new school too. That's the reason Terri left. She didn't want to be there with him. That's really why I never felt bad for him.
@@DavidKen878 yeah, no one really feels bad for him. He was an incel to the core. Selfcentered, childish, violent when he doesn’t get his way and then doesn’t seem to understand why no one likes them. Obviously it’s a them problem
The first one wasn't really bullying since Rick had it coming. If anything Spinner just cares for Terri probably more than any other girl.
I felt sorry for rick at first because I thought he was overhated character but what he did to his girlfriend I can careless about him , bullying isn't cool but assault isn't either two wrongs don't make it right
Lmao they was ON his ass
After a while I get it the school turns on him, bucks with him and isolates him, but after a point that needs to stop, him coming back and shooting the school was bad but he is a dude obviously mentally ill should have gotten help
i get what the show was trying to do, but under normal circumstances, there would be no bullying because rick would be in juvy
Operation Ivy patch!! 2:55
emmanelson 👩🏼
Looking back on this now I can’t feel sorry for Rick you literally returned at the scene of the crime that got you in deep trouble to begin you knew what was waiting for you as soon you returned to degrassi what you thought you was going make friends sorry abuses rapists murderers pedophile get no love from me at all!!
But they shouldn’t should’ve treat him like that you want to push a psychopath like him be my guest but don’t be surprised if end up on the barrel of a gun
I understood the initial bullying, and the hating him, but honestly once jay kicked his ass at the dot it should’ve just been neutralized right there. Throwing him in the dumpster was wild. And pouring the paint on him was way out of line.
P.s. alex got away with that
I have zero sympathy for him, but I felt the feeling. Nevertheless he shouldn’t have even came back in the first place. Poor Terri
The way people act towards this is so annoying. The problem with his situation is that people started out upset about Terri, then random people that never even knew her realized that he was just an easy and socially acceptable target. That's when it turned into a problem.
Who cares? He put a girl in a coma, never apologized to her, never faced any consequences, and then forced her to go to another school.
Exactly.
This episode proves if you can hit a woman and feel powerful then you can definitely take the treatment at school for your actions
Is not so great when the bullied is you right?
Rick was a messed up delinquent teen. Domestic abuse. Some say the coma was an accident. Others say it wasn't. Either way the abuse were not accidents. The coma is the result of rick abusive behavior. Terri was lucky she survived. Rick was no innocent. Some say he deserved what he got. Others say he needed help. Though i would not have bullied him, i wouldn't of defended him either. Rick was no innocent.
Rick should of moved away and start over else where. Instead he insisted in returning to degrassi. What did he think was going to happen? How did he think he was going to be treated? Did he think that nothing would of change? That his classmates were going to pretend he didn't almost kill his girlfriend?
Then he brings a gun, not to shoot all who bullied him, but to shoot what few friends who actually gave him the 2nd chance he so craved. All because of what he "over heard". Friends who believed he changed yet he was quick to believe whatever he "over hears" rather than just ask or give benifit of doubt.
Sean could've whooped Rick's ass
Aaron & Liv Morgan
Two things can be true at once yk. Spinner and Jimmy were bullies so Jimmy getting shot is STILL his fault although Rick was a pos himself he also had that bullying coming…this show is too good