I heard someone say thanos can kill goku with the infinity gauntlet, but they don’t realize that goku survived hakai in base form. The infinity gauntlet won’t do anything Edit: I’m talking about the mcu stones
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Goku may like fighting but he isnt dumb. He isn't gonna give frieza the dragon balls just so he can have a fight he can't win. He can sense evil in people and while he tries to reform them he does not actively help villans achive their full power. Goku wouldn't even try to reform thanos and would simply try and stop him. Please stop making goku out to be stupid.
@Supes Is fodder Says the DB fanboy (subtle username btw) replying to multiple threads downplaying comic book characters lol! Oh and before you call me a "Marvel fanboy" DC, When They Cry, Cthulhu Mythos and SCP all solo the DB verse too (including DBH).
Man the short answer to this is that once goku gets to a certain god/natural laws of the universe/ ancient universal power in Marvel, he gets stomps because their power isn't something you can learn. You can only acquire it through their will to bestow it to you. Anyone lower that... goku would stomp most of the marvel universe.
@@cyttoraknz8622 Give me Spider-Man that had the power of those aliens who killed celestials for a nano second and killed every villain. I think they’re called the Beyonders.
What's really crazy is that characters like goku, vegeta, and marvel/DC characters have to hold their power back so they don't literally wipe out everything
Yeah, especially since in Marvel and DC most of their power can't be turned off, so they must be using less than 0.00001% of their powers on a daily basis, although there are some massive colateral damage when they do use their full power... While the crazy thing about DB, is that they can go 100%, yet without causing much colateral damage. It's like they got the opposite problems in that aspect.
Hulk's powers dont work like that. Bruce Banner may need to get angry to become the Hulk, but from there its more like he has a baseline power which he has some level of control over, but can get more and more powerful the angrier he gets. Kinda like Broly. He also has multiple feats of destroying buildings, a feat were he carried a big chunk ofa colapsing mountain, a feat of busting a planet..... And then there is mostly scalable feats of him beating up God Tier characters like Thor or Thanos that at the very least can destroy a galaxy, if not affect an entire universe.
@@مارقالشهري can’t destroy a mountain he lifted one and none the less he lifted a star that weighed approximately 6.5 sextillion tons in secret wars. You have no knowledge of marvel so you should probably quit talking.
The TLDR version is; The DBS characters are insanely powerful and could easily wipe out most Marvel characters, but they're not 5th dimensional and would get destroyed once they went past Skyfather-level.
@@proudyeagerist9495 well I've got evidence. The dragon ball universe 7 is many times larger than ours I forgot how much larger. He sent shockwave across the universe in ssg and was able to negate it which was a multiversal feat. Then he absorbed it in base making him base multiversal. Then he got much more powerful over time by end top he's stronger than vegito on base by end of broly movie in moro arc he bodies gogeta in mui
when you realized that Knull is stronger than the Celestials and more Edit: calm down dudes i know that Knull hasnt gone like full power yet and stuff so very debatable and im very biased about Knull lol
@@kotoamatsukami- You're ignoring the context bud, That celestial was corrupted by Knulls symbiote iron man manipulated the symbiote in order to control the celestial
@@MyLife-og2kr a pointless war, everybody should be educated and realize Marvel is superior to Dragonball. It's just those dumb dragon ball fans who have no experience with Marvel Comics.
"Who's faster, Usian Bolt or Bruce Lee?" Just because Silver Surfer and fly across the galaxy quickly doesn't mean he can throw punches with any speed.
I am most happy to hear just how impressive Iron Man really is at one of his best or maybe his best moment. Freaking Phoenix buster?? Sick as hecc. I love Iron Man.
I love this video. This is the exact kind of video I was looking for. The straight facts, no baius, no bs on how goku stacks vs another verus Very well done.
So what I'll counter with, on the Thor point, is that Thor BEFORE obtaining the Power Cosmic from Galactus was imbued with the Thor-force, which is just the Odin-force which is the source of Odin's power. All-Father Thor is his base. That means that Thor is equal to Odin, meaning any feats attributed to Odin can be achieved by All-Father Thor. If Odin can body Goku, Thor could. Not trying to be a fanboy, but also take into account the abstract nature of Ghostrider's powers. Also, Iron Man has the tech to calculate a characters movements, so arguably UI would be useless against a powerful enough computer. And I'll be that guy to bring up how Hyperion, through nothing but his physical strength, held two infinite universes apart.
I feel like a god bind + hakai combo would take goku a long way. Especially if he were to use those two things in his giant avatar form. He can also make clones of himself that act on there own. So theoretically he could have 6 or 7 clones of his all use god bind, hakai, and summon their own giant ki avatar. Along with himself.
Although the clones would be weakening Goku by a lot... Plus Hakai doesnt exactly work on immortal beings, and has a very slow effect against opponents that are more powerful than him. UI Alone should be quite deadly still. Especially when you factor in that it grants him a Spider Sense with a 0% reaction time for his movements. People that cant be oneshotted could thus otherwise be overwhelemed by the superior reaction.
@@aiddan5077 I never argued that either. Ghosts are undead and intangible beings, Hakai still works on that. But against people with literal immortality, like they arent just unable to age, but also cant be killed? Hakai has no effect against that.
@@YodaSmokes not actually, unlike DB, most of the high tier characters from DC and Marvel are very interesting and have great stories, like The Sandman or Lucifer.
Saying Ironman could beat Goku with prep time is about as meaningful in this debate as saying Goku could beat Odin if he trained for it. Yes, both is possible, but says nothing of what they could do on the spot or on a consistent basis.
Well I mean. You’re wrong. It’s in the video how Ironman with prep created armors to contest with being like the Dark Celestials and The Phoenix force. Who could kinda oh idk pimp slap Goku. So I mean the relevance is there
@Supes Is fodder But in this video they show examples of ironman armors fighting celestials, by you saying that you just said Krillin beats dark celestials, celestials, Skyfathers, and the Phoenix force
No way Xavier could defeat MUI Goku. Babidi telepathically communicated with the Earth's entire population, mind controlled opponents MUCH more powerful than himself (i.e. Dabura), can teleport, and construct energy barriers strong enough to partially withstand attacks from Innocent Buu (which could harm Majin Vegeta in his Super Saiyan 2 state). Professor X would need Cerebro or an outside amp to perform some of these feats and Badidi got wrecked by Buu saga Piccolo btw.
I didn't say he could mind control Vegeta. I said Babidi could mind control beings much stronger than himself like Dabura (was equivalent to Perfect Cell, a solar system buster). Xavier, in contrast, doesn't measure up to such a feat unaided.
Power doesnt exactly translate into mental defense though. That said, UI in general has an advantage in that the user's mind basically becomes blank. There is nothing to read, while it will be difficult to change anything, so with Goku being so strong and fast to overkill Xavier multiple times over, he probably would win more often than not.
@@zettovii1367 For the Dragon Ball universe, 気 "Ki", lit. "Spirit", also known as chi/qi, or simply energy is the life force energy used by Dragon Ball characters, which does directly translate into mental defense, enhanced strength, speed, endurance, and can increase the power of their attacks to inflict greater damage to opponents. It has been shown time and time again that with DB characters, greater power > hax abilities. Whether it be, mind control, magic, time manipulation, transmutation, gravity, etc.
Surprised nobody mentioned the actual abilities of Ultra Instinct, since it isnt simply just another super mode that makes Goku faster and stronger than before... But it also kinda grants him some kind of Spider Sense with a sort of awareness over his surroundings... But with one major difference, the Spider Sense still needs the user to think and react upon whatever they are sensing, while the Ultra Instinct has it's user act immediately as they sense things, no thought process used at all. So Goku's maximum movement speed translates 100% into combat speed + a greater area of how and where he can react to stuff. Shouldnt this grant him an edge against the likes of Thor and Silver Surfer who's best speed feats are generally just travel related?
Well sliver surfer gets his powers form galactus. Galactus has the comic power (i this is the name) which basically makes him into a god. And depending on the Thor. If it’s rune king Thor he is nearly omnipotent and while I don’t know much about the dbz universe I think it’s very likely rkt would destroy him
@@adamtersteeg759 Silver Surfer may get his powers from Galactus, but his power tends to be in a significantly smaller scale in comparison. Like, he seems to peak at being a star buster. While although he has very versatile power sets that lets him do almost anything, as far as fights go he tends to just stick to moving very fast and blasting energy.... And well, Goku can do that far better. Galactus at his full power is probably outside Goku's league, much like Odin is, but Silver Surfer is quite a bit weaker than them.
@@zettovii1367 You ignorant DB tards are something else. Zero knowledge when it comes to powerscaling and comics scaling. Even a normal silver surfer was able to keep up with Red Shift a Fifth dimensional being who came from the Hyperspace, that too if we're disgustingly lowballing the cosmology. Power cosmic is extremely OP too, characters like Uatu who where severely weakened were still able to transcend the boundaries of spatial dimensions using the power cosmic. He also has so many hax like over 20, even his simple hax which is space manipulator would cuck the Saiyans as they can't breathe in void. And no the RoF was in the stratosphere. So yea even a simple base Silver Surfer can easily solo nearly if not all of Dragon ball. Let's not even talk about his recent versions. SO please be literate before embarrassing yourself.
@@gohanblanco5641 oh please. Shut your lying MOUTH. Spider-Man himself solod a herald of galactus and silver surfer and goku is basically Spider-Man x10. Your argument is FLAWED by your own comics 😭😭
@@EndingVisions Not only was Fire lord seemingly depowered, but it wouldnt be an anti feat for firelord, or surfer, but an outlier for spidey, who has shown massive amounts of growth mid battle when his mentality changes. When has Spidey ever "soloed" silver surfer? Can u tell me the comic?
Db fans trying to downplay marvel characters by talking about “inconsistency” are forgetting the fact that this isn’t dragon ball. This is superpowers. Also they’re forgetting the fact that the writers decide how powerful they’re characters are. The writers can make they’re characters dumb as a Peter griffin to being intelligent as Albert Einstein. The writers can make them so weak that can’t lift a pillow to making them strong enough to one shot a multiversal being. So please don’t talk about “inconsistency” when you yourself don’t care about consistency at all. It’s fiction. Deal with it.
Faster than light lmao wasn't goku from the frieza saga already faster than light, not even including instant transmission lmao. But claiming that goku MUI can't touch quick silver is far fetched especially when gokus already making whis spar seriously🤣🤣 instincts =/= overall speed. It's the other way around silver aint touching goku.
@@orcqa2534 yea and goku could do the same INSTANTANTLY with his Instant transmission. your point? if your gonna use a speedster use someone impressive like the flash bud then we could talk.
@Oblivion your giving me speed of light feats that aren't impressing me bud. Goku literally moved through Hits time skip and broke hits pocket dimension where he literally stops time. Those Speed feats aint shit. And let me note that, that was goku prior to the TOP lmao. he's improved drastically anything else ?
@@BohemianGroveify how he wouldn’t have any time to prepare. If you’re relying on that then the conversation is over. Any universe can favor one or the other so keep that out of it
@@solrac4512 Yes but goku is a character whos abilities are just that, defying logic to get out of situations. Nobody could thought delete goku, goku can instant transmission through time and even outside of time,
This is coming from a Dragon Ball fan here, but no way is Goku even lasting a second in Marvel. With Thor, Beyonder, The Living Tribunal, Galactus, Hulk, TOAA and Thanos, Goku has no chance.
The Fallen One (Silver Surfer) Rune King Thor Onslaught (Professor X) White Phoenix of the Crown (Jean Grey) Scarlet Witch Composite Rogue Green Scar (Hulk) Astral Regulator Thanos King Hyperion Death Seed/Complete Sentry Franklin Richards Valeria Richards God Emperor Doom (Doctor Doom) Godkiller/Uru Armor/Endo-Sym Armor Iron Man Molecule Man
Speed of light is nothing to goku who in M.U.I is 240000000000080000000000000000000006500000000000 times faster than light according to he current calculation most likely 3 zeroes faster or slower
@@fastpoptart Light itself is the fastest natural thing in existence and if you saw the answer to the calculation which I put In the answer that is nearly overwhelming and he also transends time itself.
Putting anime/manga or movie characters against Comic book characters is a ridiculous thing in itself. I mean they just STOMP everyone due to decades of content.
12:00 I see no mention of UI Goku surpassing Jiren who shook an infinite 5D realm while supressed. You guys conveniently skipped that part. Keep in mind that it was stated that he surpasses time (4D) again when he overpowered Hit. So, there is dimensional tiering and it puts Goku, Broly etc higher than even mr. Mxy's 5D or the Hulk when he busted a planet(!) in the Dark (5th) dimension (so Hulk can't clap Goku, nice wank though). Hell, SSB Goku, in RoF, is technically Omniversal when you consider the multiplier for SSG to SSB. And SSBKKx10 Goku from the U6 tournament can be considered beyond time (5D), because he countered Hit's time stop. Vados' comment when Jiren surpassed Hit indicates that Hit was actaully stopping time and not that it was a power feat, but instead a skill feat. That would make SSBKKx10 Goku from the U6 tournament 5th dimensional and makes Jiren's world of void feat seem less improbable for the ones who are still in disbelief. There's no rule that states that a 4D being can't surpass 4D. We see them do this all the time, so the comment about Zeno does not make him less powerful. 5D is simply 4D squared. Consider all of Goku's power ups from BotG and it's easy to see that he's 4D in base, but can go dimensions higher due to his power ups/multiplications. Zeno can be a 4D being with higher dimensionsional powers similar to how the Grand Priest is a 4D being, but can create infinite 5D spaces like the infinite world of void. This is why it's good that Dragon Ball has canon multipliers. Goku enters Marvel and Marvel go boom (the multiverse and everything in it at least). 13:55 So Odin destroyed a multiversal structure. The multiverse exists in a 4D space. It's a feat that's above BoTG Goku, but below Jiren's infinite 5D feat. 14:38 Hold up, you're conflating planes of realities (alternate universes)/the Omniverse with dimensions (as if they reached TOAA). So that was way too facile. Jiren's existence alone would be felt throughout the entire Marvel multiverse while Odin had to go HAM with Seth to accomplish the same. Get JOBin out of here. 15:46 Celestials are born from the original universe, they scattered when that universe was shattered into a multiverse. So, technically they're outside our mortal comprehension of time, but they aren't unaffected by time itself (unlike Jiren and Goku). Can they tank UI Goku who is stronger than ToP UI Goku, who is stronger than Limit Breaker Jiren, who is stronger than "infinite world of void" Jiren who make an infinite 5D realm shake by existing? Are they stronger than Eternity? See below for why I'm asking. 17:25 Eternity can be destroyed if Goku can destroy the Marvel multiverse, because Eternity dies with the multiverse and is reborn, while it evolves with it. Can Goku destroy a multiverse? Can high 5th to 6th dimensional being destroy an infinite 4D realm? The answer is "yes". Also, Whis took 20 minutes to travel to earth, but Beerus once flew to Whis (from their planet) within moments which indicates that Whis was going slow to let the cat nap or watch anime while travelling (the movie made it clear that Beerus television, because of his love for idols and whatnot). So either Beerus is faster than Whis or the feat was an outlier and shouldn't be taken into account now that we have a faster one. And the surfer doesn't travel from outside the universe so every distance he travels is shorter than that of Beerus at that time (with the universe being infinite in size and all). I'm saying that the Angels are higher dimensional beings, because they can manipulate time with the priest being the highest, because he can create dimensions. Dimensional tiering in dragon ball is literally explained in raw power, the power to break through every limit, even dimensional ones, in often hilarious ways. That's why people downplay Dragon ball so much, they don't understand its complexity. They think that multipliers are a cheap way of writing even though it's the only system that accurately lets you determine the power of a fighter (unlike in Marvel and DCeased). That's why other shows were quick to pick it up (like 7 deadly sins) It's both complex and easy if you'd just get your calculator out for the multipliers instead of using the Marvel style in which things are made to seem more grandiose than they actually are.
Dude there are infinite multiverses with infinite universes with their own timelines reality space time voids etc all on an infinite scale there are infinite layers of existence that are divided into 3 sections the realm of magic gods and abstracts each all containing infinite structures within them
@@uninstall2482 Infinite multiverses and timelines are nothing to (anime) Goku anymore. When Goku became able to destroy the infinite universe he gained an infinite multiplier. Agreed? Then he absorbed this power into his base (in the anime and movie) and was able to stack SSG on his base. So he gained another infinite multiplier. Which means he can now destroy an infinite amount of universes, which is infinite multiversal. Then, in the U6 tournament he transcended time by moving through frozen time (4D). Every multiverse exists in a 4D plane of existence, because they are affected by time. Then with Zamasu he claimed that he could defeat infinite Zamasu, who was merged with an infinite amount of timelines. They are confirmed infinite, because Zamasu was able to summon clones from there. That solidifies his infinite 4D feat. The fact that he can destroy an infinite amount of timelines and multiverses means that he can defeat abstract beings. Time is an abstract being that represents infinite time and we've just established that Goku can destroy infintie timelines. Eternity is bound to the multiverse, when the multiverse dies, he dies with it and is reborn when it is born again. So only infinite multiversal powers are needed to destroy Marvel's Eternity. And we have just established that anime Goku is infinite multiversal. Abstract beings don't mean much to Goku anymore. It's just in the Marvel and DCverse that they haven't reached infinite tiers of power themselves. They still need magic to go to higher dimension while Goku, Jiren, Broly, Gogeta and Super Buu just needed to power up to move through dimensions. Then Goku went to the World of Void, a place where time does not exist and where Goku could go all out. It might be infinite dimensional, it might be infinite 5D (I usually go with infinite 5D), but it can't be like our own dimension because our dimension has time. Goku and Jiren then showed that their power can reach that entire infinite higher Dimension.
@@TheArchevil in no place was is he able to take out infinite multiverses there is no guide books that support this there is no statements from the authors nothing from the daizenshuu support this you are literally going off of assumptions because you know goku is not that strong
@@TheArchevil and btw infinite universe does not equal infinite multiverse did you read what I said I watched dragon ball super and I know the structure of universe 7 and it’s native time line which only has 12 universes not even 28 and no he doesn’t have infinite multiplier never was it stated that it was infinite
@@TheArchevil and even if he was able to end infinite amount of universes would equal only one multiverse not infinite have you any marvel regarding the marvel cosmology
MARVEL CHARACTERS THAT CAN SQUISH GOKU LIKE A GRAPE The one above all The living tribunal The beyonder Molecule man Lord chaos Chaos king Chthon Cyttorak Shaper of Worlds Shuma-Gorath In-Betweener Galactus Dormammu Uatu The Watcher The Stranger The Celestials Franklin Richards Mistress Love & Sire Hate The Vishanti Master Order Death Eternity & Infinity Oblivion Amatsu-Mikaboshi Onslaught Skaar Blue Marvel Utatu sentry
Good points about fifth dimensional beings. Yeah no one in Dragon Ball, not even Zeno, is fifth dimensional. So Goku against DC comics isn't beating Mr Mxyzptlk.
Xavier fought against Cyclops as Phoenix who’s primary abilities are optic blasts, Jean Grey as Phoenix has mopped Xavier (with her being the “greatest” Phoenix host and her being an omega telepath).
It would not be a good idea for Goku to battle World Breaker Hulk. It's a unmovable abject vs an unstoppable force. It's Dark Matter vs Anti-Matter. The battle would create a Black Hole!
@@kotoamatsukami- you can grab a single character from marvel and do the same to db. They chose Goku simply because he's the strongest popular db character
@Supes Is fodder What's false Zeno getting clapped if he went against Marvel's Abstracts? Don't make me laugh verse is filled with Nigh Omnipotents while Zeno is a child that can only erase and nothing more
But he would cripple Goku by forcing him inside his mind and locking his powers away while giving him visions of being poked by Thousands of Needles. And he's not even the most powerful Telepath.
@Supes Is fodder mesh?? Lol Goku has no immunity to extreme mind hax that would be able to lock him inside his own mind, Charles can affect him as soon as he touches down on Earth and will be in an Aizen like illusion, but much more powerful then Aizen ever was, also Aizen's Hypnosis would also be able to affect Goku since it affected Yawach who could see all possibilities and events over Infinite Timelines and should be been able to see a Timeline where Aizen is actually playing him but no, so Charles be well above that in terms of Mind Hax would be able to completely lock Goku is a Universe of no power and suffering. It'll be like R9K Elsa Is Suffering but with Goku.
@Supes Is fodder sigh... Goku is Multi Universal to Low Multiversal (1000+ Universes in attack potency) but that literally all means absolutely nothing compared to Mind Hax, he has all of that power but he won't be able to use any of it and will be a mere Human when trapped inside his own mind and completely powerless. What is it that you don't understand?? Power means absolutely nothing in a Mental battle, unless Goku has trained his mind to a Quantum Computer then he won't be able to even touch Xavier.
@Supes Is fodder umm....... did you watch the video?? Have you heard of Odin?? What about The Living Tribunal or The Pre Retcon Beyonder?? Jesus Christ mate you know nothing about Marvel and are obviously a Dragon Ball Fanboy, Goku gets erased from existence by Thanos not even using the weak and easily beaten Infinity Gauntlet but using the way more powerful Cosmic Cube or Heart Of The Infinite Omniverse or Old King Thanos who killed all the Infinite Multiversal Abstracts and the Hyperversal Living Tribunal and there's still several different and more powerful versions. Evem silver Surfer could turn Goku into an Ice Cube with the Power Cosmic which the Multiverse level Celestials use and which the Celestial Galaxy is also uses. There's Death who's above everything except for Eternity and then there's Proroge who copied and surpassed the powers of The Living Tribunal. There's too many Multiversal characters, even Doctor Strange is Hyperversal, but that's Classic Dr. Strange who's above Pre Retcon Beyonder who's above the whole Beyonder Race where Three of them can kill The Living Tribunal. You know nothing about Marvel or the Mutants, I bet you don't even know who Franklin Richards is or where Jean Grey gets her powers from go and read The End by Marvel where Thanos literally absorbs the Multiverse and the Abstracts including The Living Tribunal and then recreates it because a Boundless being convinced him to let go of Omnipotence.
@@moyhie Because Thanos has molecular resistance, he couldn't even be warped by time and space. Galactus is his creator and infinite more powerful, Thor is a Asgardians God with immunity to molecular reconstruction. Buu could turn them into chocolate, he's not even close to the power of cosmic.
Here's the reason that no one brings up, WTF is canon in comics, they're all over the place with their 100+ writers, it's kinda ridiculous to compare manga fights to comics because comics have many issues and many writer's and things get rebooted every week, each writer just outdoo eachother because they can't come up with new characters like how manga does since they are characters who have been around for over 50+ years
Youre asking this now? My man, I was asking this since way before during the whole Goku vs Superman days. Even before Deathbattle people keep talking about Pre Crisis Superman and even pre crisis Superman is written inconsistently as all types of fuck.
I know right? Like Goku shits on every normal version of Superman, until they bring in some random one that is apparently omnipotent because they are lazy at writing and just reboot the character so often which literally shouldn’t be used to power scale
Yeah, I totally agree with your statement. There are so many writers throughout the years that I can't keep up with. Given that, I do believe that there are Marvel Universes that Goku will not beat, but then again I also believe that there are Marvel universes that he can solo.
I feel like most people alive today still can not comprehend the fact that Zeno, with no effort, erased an entire TIMELINE. Thats an entire REALITY and EVERY universe within. Heaven, Hell, the entire macrocosm. But, sure, lets lowball Zeno to low multiversal. Fuck that trash. We use common sense here.
The thing with Dragonball power is that it boils down to hitting and blasting. Silver surfer has far too many ways to deal with someone even non-violently that allowed all his abilities he would be a hard stop for Goku. The guy rode supernova explosions before Toriyama graduated school
@@dannysdungareedanceoff8481 Not sure what your getting at here cause of the structure of your post but to downplay a supernova is quite the lapse in judgment. The point I am illustrating is that casual durability back in the day for Silver surfer was beyond supernova and that's him choosing to take the blast when he doesn't need to. He can become intangible if he chooses to.
@Supes Is fodder Clearly you don't know the versatility he has. Without going down a vast list, simply the fact that only a handful of DB characters can live in the airless void of space hurts your argument cause the planet being destroyed is a high possibility
@Supes Is fodder Not even intangibility of self and others, creating singulatities in the eyes of your opponents, time travel, sub-atomic shrinking, etc?
Ironman accidentally shattered the Phoenix Force, the plan was to hopefully destroy it. Shattering it escalated the situation and made them much worse, which is why currently in Avengers run Ironman said that they cannot fight the Phoenix Force and win.
I don't see how xeno goku is supposed to be stronger than current manga goku? Xeno goku scale's to post ToP blue goku. Manga goku did what heroes goku didn't. That's master ui at will. Current manga goku is the most powerful version right now
The Living Tribunal would one shot all of DBS, and he’s not even the strongest being in that universe. Goku doesn’t stand a chance in hell against ALL of Marvel.
Assuming he's going against all of marvel.. He would get either One-Shotted, Speed-Blitzed, or violently outhaxxed by pretty much any of the mid-top tiers. Another thing that most of us DBZ fans can't accept is that the DBZ cast isn't as powerful as people think it is.
Theres also the fact of could they even sense his mind when ui is basically your body acting on its own, no thoughts getting in the way, his mind could be either very vulnerable or almost unsenseable to them
@@jusquanorthwind1016 they could. Ultra instinct doesn't mean you don't think about anything. Whis explains that Goku is focused on the battle and the here and now so on some level he still would be. But either way Goku would obliterate them.
@@schemar17 on that logic, Goku would get wished back 4 times, 3 if they destroy earth to destroy them. That should be enough for Goku to get the power boost required to beat anyone in MCU.
Not really a big marvel fan but the comics look like it just takes new forms out of the characters ass to mop the floor with villains just like modern dragon ball movies because powelevels don't make sense
By saying power levels make no sense I hope you're referingonly to Marvel because power levels do make sense in DB, it's just that there are people unable to comprehend simple things and bring up examples easy to explain such as SSB Goku vs Krillin.
@@brolybanderas42 I was refering to marvel and Dragon ball super and Z because the Frieza saga power levels didn't make sense and dbz abridged proved it too
@@Cay9z You're not very smart friend, that's your problem, you simply can't understand very simple things that happen in DB anf thus your limited mind concludes they don't make sense. Give me 10 examples of the Namek power levels making no sense and other 10 from DBS. SPOILER: You'll lose.
Probably the most chaotic factor of these versus is the fact that db has a consistent author/authors a but Marvel has way too many authors for so many series which make power scaling in marvel weirder than any manga.
its cool to see a video like this where commentators actually know whats going in in current dragon ball AND current marvel. Its usually one or the other and you get a current version compared to what the other one was up to in the 90's.
Surprised Zarathos wasn’t mentioned. Also, it’s very possible other timelines may have more than 12 or not as the events aren’t exactly the same so we don’t really know if every timeline outside like 3 has only 12 universes could still have all 18.
Listen I love both , but when I hear y’all say oh Thor & silver surfer being to fast 💨 I’m like no theirs a difference between flying fast & fighting fast .. Thor & surfer aren’t throwing 100 punches in 5 seconds like goku .. combat wise they not fucking with goku period or db characters period y’all bugging respectfully
They also massive undermined Xenoverse goku, xenoverse goku can instant transmission through TIME, and yes there's your point to flying speed isn't combat speed. Mui goku could destroy the Celestials by making a giant version of himself, and making clones of giant versions of himself who would have his speed and reflexes.
@Mikey Garcia Jiren was able to travel accross entire universe in dragon ball in seconds. Goku also has no limit to his instant transmission at its best. Movement speed are irrelevant to Combat speed, striking speed and striking power, same with lifting strength. Silver surfer would last no chance against goku, not even with his hax.
@Mikey Garcia You have read the dbs Manga to see that becuase they didn't show that in the anime, there's a whole Manga episode about the pride troopers.
@@redwolf915 Yeah no, Stan Lee can more than help with that. At least Goku tends to be somewhere close to the opponents he manages to beat. But Stan Lee will even have a street level character like Spiderman beat some universal demon.
@@MrRain-tt8rs If we are only using the highball feats then only living tribunal can beat him in a slugfest. The doom arc had to many plotholes so I am not gonna talk about it since I did not read it. I don't like using weapons to since then Goku also has the Zeno button. Also I might be wrong but isn't cosmic spidey just universal?
MUI Goku is Universe level character, that is he can destroy univetse with his power, but so is Rune King Thor ... so Goku is on the top level with Marvel, but he could not win agains One Above All that is Omniverse level.
Just 3 Brothers absolutely love DBZ. Nice video, very well done. We've done podcasts on DBZ before and its probably our favorite subject. HULK SMASH THO!!!
Ok so you will use the most powerful version of Goku but wont use the most powerful versions of some of the other characters? That seems unfair to me.. but this is is still cool
Goku is so OP nowadays that he would probably be able to take out of large numbers of the Marvel Universe. Thor, Hulk, Phoenix, Thanos, Juggernaut, Hercules, and other god tier characters would give him more of a challenge.
This would be a bomb 3-way convo between You, Rob from Comics Explained and Seth The Programmer
That would be AH-MUHAAAAAAAZING💯
🔥🔥🔥
@@herbertscott9575 right
You lost me on Seth sir
Sounds like a great idea... too bad Seth thinks rob is a anti powerscaler 😂
That moment when you realize that MCU Thanos isn't even 1% of current base Goku.
Truth.
Mcu Thanos isn’t even 1% of 616 Thanos
@@futtbuckerson7394 Exactly. That tells you just how weak MCU Thanos is compared to most of Dragon Ball Super, and the Marvel Comics.
I heard someone say thanos can kill goku with the infinity gauntlet, but they don’t realize that goku survived hakai in base form. The infinity gauntlet won’t do anything
Edit: I’m talking about the mcu stones
@@Lackifall Current base Goku can solo all of the MCU.
Geekdom, Seth, and Swagkage all uploading in the same week. Its been a good week.
Let me get this straight: You comment something that is unrelated to the fact that I have two DANGEROUSLY DASHING girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest TH-camr ever, having two hot girlfriends is really incredible. Yet you did not mention that at all. I am quite disappointed, dear gor
@@AxxLAfriku How can I be so foolish.
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@PrettyGordo don't Forget Blackenfist as well!!!
I upload every week, multiple times a week dude.
Goku let's thanos get infinity stones
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Goku may like fighting but he isnt dumb. He isn't gonna give frieza the dragon balls just so he can have a fight he can't win. He can sense evil in people and while he tries to reform them he does not actively help villans achive their full power. Goku wouldn't even try to reform thanos and would simply try and stop him. Please stop making goku out to be stupid.
@@princeboyd3795 Super writers are making him stupid, not us, go explain all this to them.
Goku in mui would beat thanos
@@Cay9z If thanos only uses power and space gems then maybe.
But I don't think Goku can handle Reality stone yet.
Fun fact: the German voice actor of mcu Thor was the same who voiced goku in the german Z-Dub
So
Bro?
Ok
Fun fact: Who asked? modCheck
ignore the salty replies, they're clearly upset Goku just had his ass handed to him
I can hear the DB fanboys and Marvel fanboy clacking on the computer and already starting debates in the comment section.
BUT CAN THEY BEAT GOKU THO?
(joking)
Some can some can't
@Supes Is fodder if we're talking about xeno goku than maybe other than that no
@Supes Is fodder Says the DB fanboy (subtle username btw) replying to multiple threads downplaying comic book characters lol!
Oh and before you call me a "Marvel fanboy" DC, When They Cry, Cthulhu Mythos and SCP all solo the DB verse too (including DBH).
Shit u ain't wrong 🤣
Man the short answer to this is that once goku gets to a certain god/natural laws of the universe/ ancient universal power in Marvel, he gets stomps because their power isn't something you can learn. You can only acquire it through their will to bestow it to you. Anyone lower that... goku would stomp most of the marvel universe.
@MJR ZZZ he loses your just a salty troll lol
In short: Goku clears 70% of Marvel Earth, and none of the skyfather+ characters lmao
@@cyttoraknz8622 Give me Spider-Man that had the power of those aliens who killed celestials for a nano second and killed every villain. I think they’re called the Beyonders.
Couldn't sentry beat goku with Telepathy alone?
@@voidicy5199 yes he can
What's really crazy is that characters like goku, vegeta, and marvel/DC characters have to hold their power back so they don't literally wipe out everything
Yeah, especially since in Marvel and DC most of their power can't be turned off, so they must be using less than 0.00001% of their powers on a daily basis, although there are some massive colateral damage when they do use their full power...
While the crazy thing about DB, is that they can go 100%, yet without causing much colateral damage.
It's like they got the opposite problems in that aspect.
@@zettovii1367 nah they can’t destroy a thing.. hulk always fight with 100% because he is angry and can’t even destroy a mountain
Hulk's powers dont work like that. Bruce Banner may need to get angry to become the Hulk, but from there its more like he has a baseline power which he has some level of control over, but can get more and more powerful the angrier he gets. Kinda like Broly.
He also has multiple feats of destroying buildings, a feat were he carried a big chunk ofa colapsing mountain, a feat of busting a planet..... And then there is mostly scalable feats of him beating up God Tier characters like Thor or Thanos that at the very least can destroy a galaxy, if not affect an entire universe.
@@مارقالشهري can’t destroy a mountain he lifted one and none the less he lifted a star that weighed approximately 6.5 sextillion tons in secret wars. You have no knowledge of marvel so you should probably quit talking.
@@damythicalpanda9190 how tf can hulk lift a star id would have thought it would be someone like Thor
It’s mind boggling that Goku’s MUI form is just the beginning of harnessing that full power, according to the recent chapter of DBS.
Goku slaps the X men and did yall forget Goku can resist mind attack's?
@@justgohan6346 Phoenix GODSTOMPS
@@ratboyofratrealm1624 Goku is a God
@@ratboyofratrealm1624 Goku slaps phoenix
@@ratboyofratrealm1624 Goku is too elite he's stronger and faster plus he's way better h2h he trained his whole life
The TLDR version is; The DBS characters are insanely powerful and could easily wipe out most Marvel characters, but they're not 5th dimensional and would get destroyed once they went past Skyfather-level.
@@ap_dreezy3019 xeno goku yes super goku no
@Oblivion he argues without evidence ignore him
@Oblivion In base he's universal lowball
@@proudyeagerist9495 well I've got evidence. The dragon ball universe 7 is many times larger than ours I forgot how much larger. He sent shockwave across the universe in ssg and was able to negate it which was a multiversal feat. Then he absorbed it in base making him base multiversal. Then he got much more powerful over time by end top he's stronger than vegito on base by end of broly movie in moro arc he bodies gogeta in mui
@Oblivion nope that's wrong cause 1 dragon ball universe is a multiverse
Bro I’ve been waiting with anticipation for this one.
when you realized that Knull is stronger than the Celestials and more
Edit: calm down dudes i know that Knull hasnt gone like full power yet and stuff so very debatable and im very biased about Knull lol
Wonder how Knulls opposite compares to him
Marvel powerlevels are also bullshit
The same celestials that are getting shitted on by Iron man venomized as of recently. Please that aint impressive
@Supes Is fodder Not true they are responsible for life in the multiverse
@@kotoamatsukami- You're ignoring the context bud, That celestial was corrupted by Knulls symbiote iron man manipulated the symbiote in order to control the celestial
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Nah this was a really thought out video.
Yeah, they created a war lol
@@MyLife-og2kr a pointless war, everybody should be educated and realize Marvel is superior to Dragonball. It's just those dumb dragon ball fans who have no experience with Marvel Comics.
@@Qbesent clearly ur iq rn has left ur body
Dont u realize ur gonna start a fucking war
@@zerotext782 he is just saying facts
"Who's faster, Usian Bolt or Bruce Lee?"
Just because Silver Surfer and fly across the galaxy quickly doesn't mean he can throw punches with any speed.
Uhh. He’s faster than the speed of light. He doesn’t have to throw a punch.
Your first mistake was assuming Silver Surfer throws punches.
@@elontusk610 Kakarot surpassed light speed as a kid (Depending on what you want to cite), but he still throws punches.
@@demomanchaos I must remember that actual physics doesn’t apply.
Travel speed and Attack Speed are usually relative.
I am most happy to hear just how impressive Iron Man really is at one of his best or maybe his best moment. Freaking Phoenix buster?? Sick as hecc. I love Iron Man.
I love Iron Man too he's Awesome and underatted (in the Comics)
I’m surprised you didn’t get Rob from comicsexplained.
"But Rob doesn't power scale" 😜
Rob is ass. Doesn't know how to powerscale.
Been hyped for this one, great collab🙌🏾
Great video, as always. As a fanboy of both of these universes, I thought you guys pretty much hit the nail on the head. Good stuff.
Soon as I saw he was bringing chuck back I knew this was gonna be a wash.
yup Seth the Chuck give facts
Yup, Chuck and Seth be spitting facts
I love this video. This is the exact kind of video I was looking for. The straight facts, no baius, no bs on how goku stacks vs another verus Very well done.
So what I'll counter with, on the Thor point, is that Thor BEFORE obtaining the Power Cosmic from Galactus was imbued with the Thor-force, which is just the Odin-force which is the source of Odin's power. All-Father Thor is his base. That means that Thor is equal to Odin, meaning any feats attributed to Odin can be achieved by All-Father Thor. If Odin can body Goku, Thor could. Not trying to be a fanboy, but also take into account the abstract nature of Ghostrider's powers. Also, Iron Man has the tech to calculate a characters movements, so arguably UI would be useless against a powerful enough computer. And I'll be that guy to bring up how Hyperion, through nothing but his physical strength, held two infinite universes apart.
Played yourself
You do know that goku can flick iron man and his armor will break?
@@alexprime6746 iron man has aemour that withstand the pheonix force lol
@Supes Is fodder search it up and u see the facts
@@ethanpasok209 We are talking about the casual iron man genius.
I feel like a god bind + hakai combo would take goku a long way. Especially if he were to use those two things in his giant avatar form. He can also make clones of himself that act on there own. So theoretically he could have 6 or 7 clones of his all use god bind, hakai, and summon their own giant ki avatar. Along with himself.
Although the clones would be weakening Goku by a lot... Plus Hakai doesnt exactly work on immortal beings, and has a very slow effect against opponents that are more powerful than him.
UI Alone should be quite deadly still. Especially when you factor in that it grants him a Spider Sense with a 0% reaction time for his movements. People that cant be oneshotted could thus otherwise be overwhelemed by the superior reaction.
Thanos is all that’s needed, throw in the Celestials and it’s overkill. Throw in the Gauntlet and Goku is being thrown out the Comic Pages.
@@zettovii1367 so ghost aren’t immortal beings lol an immortal can still cease to exist
@@aiddan5077
I never argued that either. Ghosts are undead and intangible beings, Hakai still works on that. But against people with literal immortality, like they arent just unable to age, but also cant be killed? Hakai has no effect against that.
@@zettovii1367 that’s obviously not true if goku can haha I zamasu then that statement isn’t feasible and beeris hakaid zamasu as well
The "popular" MCU characters are getting stomped. But there's some characters that would absolutely body Goku and some of em would make it look easy
Yep some guys are 5d and beyond
@@CertainlyCynical not "some" actually, "alot" would be a better term.
Honestly there’s a reason they aren’t popular though. Being 5d and unbeatable just makes you boring.
@@YodaSmokes not actually, unlike DB, most of the high tier characters from DC and Marvel are very interesting and have great stories, like The Sandman or Lucifer.
@@YodaSmokes
depends
for example everyone know characters like Darkseid or Galactus,who are completely broken
Saying Ironman could beat Goku with prep time is about as meaningful in this debate as saying Goku could beat Odin if he trained for it. Yes, both is possible, but says nothing of what they could do on the spot or on a consistent basis.
True
@Supes Is fodder Zeno is fodder he is bound by time 😭😭
So true.
Well I mean. You’re wrong. It’s in the video how Ironman with prep created armors to contest with being like the Dark Celestials and The Phoenix force. Who could kinda oh idk pimp slap Goku. So I mean the relevance is there
@Supes Is fodder But in this video they show examples of ironman armors fighting celestials, by you saying that you just said Krillin beats dark celestials, celestials, Skyfathers, and the Phoenix force
No way Xavier could defeat MUI Goku. Babidi telepathically communicated with the Earth's entire population, mind controlled opponents MUCH more powerful than himself (i.e. Dabura), can teleport, and construct energy barriers strong enough to partially withstand attacks from Innocent Buu (which could harm Majin Vegeta in his Super Saiyan 2 state). Professor X would need Cerebro or an outside amp to perform some of these feats and Badidi got wrecked by Buu saga Piccolo btw.
He couldn’t mind control Vegeta. He let himself get controlled but could’ve easily fight it
I didn't say he could mind control Vegeta. I said Babidi could mind control beings much stronger than himself like Dabura (was equivalent to Perfect Cell, a solar system buster). Xavier, in contrast, doesn't measure up to such a feat unaided.
Power doesnt exactly translate into mental defense though. That said, UI in general has an advantage in that the user's mind basically becomes blank. There is nothing to read, while it will be difficult to change anything, so with Goku being so strong and fast to overkill Xavier multiple times over, he probably would win more often than not.
@@zettovii1367 For the Dragon Ball universe, 気 "Ki", lit. "Spirit", also known as chi/qi, or simply energy is the life force energy used by Dragon Ball characters, which does directly translate into mental defense, enhanced strength, speed, endurance, and can increase the power of their attacks to inflict greater damage to opponents. It has been shown time and time again that with DB characters, greater power > hax abilities. Whether it be, mind control, magic, time manipulation, transmutation, gravity, etc.
@@charndeepbhangoo7556
Fair enough. Guess UI isn't needed at all then, besides maybe avoiding mind reading.
Current All Father Thor absolutely SLAMS Goku. No concept of difficulty. He is absolutely broken rn
@@lukaslambs5780 what?
@ are you familiar with the current Thor story going on? His story magic and raw power put him well into outerversal, above Goku.
Surprised nobody mentioned the actual abilities of Ultra Instinct, since it isnt simply just another super mode that makes Goku faster and stronger than before... But it also kinda grants him some kind of Spider Sense with a sort of awareness over his surroundings...
But with one major difference, the Spider Sense still needs the user to think and react upon whatever they are sensing, while the Ultra Instinct has it's user act immediately as they sense things, no thought process used at all. So Goku's maximum movement speed translates 100% into combat speed + a greater area of how and where he can react to stuff.
Shouldnt this grant him an edge against the likes of Thor and Silver Surfer who's best speed feats are generally just travel related?
Well sliver surfer gets his powers form galactus. Galactus has the comic power (i this is the name) which basically makes him into a god. And depending on the Thor. If it’s rune king Thor he is nearly omnipotent and while I don’t know much about the dbz universe I think it’s very likely rkt would destroy him
@@adamtersteeg759
Silver Surfer may get his powers from Galactus, but his power tends to be in a significantly smaller scale in comparison. Like, he seems to peak at being a star buster. While although he has very versatile power sets that lets him do almost anything, as far as fights go he tends to just stick to moving very fast and blasting energy.... And well, Goku can do that far better. Galactus at his full power is probably outside Goku's league, much like Odin is, but Silver Surfer is quite a bit weaker than them.
@@zettovii1367 You ignorant DB tards are something else. Zero knowledge when it comes to powerscaling and comics scaling. Even a normal silver surfer was able to keep up with Red Shift a Fifth dimensional being who came from the Hyperspace, that too if we're disgustingly lowballing the cosmology. Power cosmic is extremely OP too, characters like Uatu who where severely weakened were still able to transcend the boundaries of spatial dimensions using the power cosmic. He also has so many hax like over 20, even his simple hax which is space manipulator would cuck the Saiyans as they can't breathe in void. And no the RoF was in the stratosphere. So yea even a simple base Silver Surfer can easily solo nearly if not all of Dragon ball. Let's not even talk about his recent versions. SO please be literate before embarrassing yourself.
@@gohanblanco5641 oh please. Shut your lying MOUTH. Spider-Man himself solod a herald of galactus and silver surfer and goku is basically Spider-Man x10. Your argument is FLAWED by your own comics 😭😭
@@EndingVisions
Not only was Fire lord seemingly depowered, but it wouldnt be an anti feat for firelord, or surfer, but an outlier for spidey, who has shown massive amounts of growth mid battle when his mentality changes.
When has Spidey ever "soloed" silver surfer? Can u tell me the comic?
Db fans trying to downplay marvel characters by talking about “inconsistency” are forgetting the fact that this isn’t dragon ball. This is superpowers. Also they’re forgetting the fact that the writers decide how powerful they’re characters are. The writers can make they’re characters dumb as a Peter griffin to being intelligent as Albert Einstein. The writers can make them so weak that can’t lift a pillow to making them strong enough to one shot a multiversal being. So please don’t talk about “inconsistency” when you yourself don’t care about consistency at all. It’s fiction. Deal with it.
Odin : my son can’t do anything to me.
Fenrir: ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF
When they forget that silver surfer board can literally trap Goku
candy vegito :p
Need some pepper with that? ;)
No
@Supes Is fodder No
@@YoimRezy silver surfer magic outclasses Buuhan
Faster than light lmao wasn't goku from the frieza saga already faster than light, not even including instant transmission lmao. But claiming that goku MUI can't touch quick silver is far fetched especially when gokus already making whis spar seriously🤣🤣 instincts =/= overall speed. It's the other way around silver aint touching goku.
@Supes Is foddersilver surfer literally crossed the universe in a couple of seconds and it took whis a couple of minutes to cross the universe
@@orcqa2534 yea and goku could do the same INSTANTANTLY with his Instant transmission. your point? if your gonna use a speedster use someone impressive like the flash bud then we could talk.
@@kotoamatsukami- except Goku needs to focus his energy to do so
@Oblivion thank you for telling me something I know bud
@Oblivion your giving me speed of light feats that aren't impressing me bud. Goku literally moved through Hits time skip and broke hits pocket dimension where he literally stops time. Those Speed feats aint shit. And let me note that, that was goku prior to the TOP lmao. he's improved drastically anything else ?
Lmao he can’t beat everyone but a lot. There’s a lot who can beat him by thinking him away.
Wouldn't work. Gokus universe is too broken for it to work on him. He would magically find a way out of it trust me
@@BohemianGroveify how he wouldn’t have any time to prepare. If you’re relying on that then the conversation is over. Any universe can favor one or the other so keep that out of it
@@BohemianGroveify Plot is a power of Goku in his Universe not in a neutral hypothetical fight
@@solrac4512 Yes but goku is a character whos abilities are just that, defying logic to get out of situations. Nobody could thought delete goku, goku can instant transmission through time and even outside of time,
@@BohemianGroveify that's why he needed the time machine, right?
This is coming from a Dragon Ball fan here, but no way is Goku even lasting a second in Marvel. With Thor, Beyonder, The Living Tribunal, Galactus, Hulk, TOAA and Thanos, Goku has no chance.
@Supes Is fodder Ye I agree Ant Man one shots Krilin
@@lfc_szn4274 Even Nick Fury can one shot Dragon Ball verse 😁
@@ashutoshpanda8222 fax
The Fallen One (Silver Surfer)
Rune King Thor
Onslaught (Professor X)
White Phoenix of the Crown (Jean Grey)
Scarlet Witch
Composite Rogue
Green Scar (Hulk)
Astral Regulator Thanos
King Hyperion
Death Seed/Complete Sentry
Franklin Richards
Valeria Richards
God Emperor Doom (Doctor Doom)
Godkiller/Uru Armor/Endo-Sym Armor Iron Man
Molecule Man
I mean silver surfer can literally turn Goku into a popsicle so marvel easily wins
Speed of light is nothing to goku who in M.U.I is 240000000000080000000000000000000006500000000000 times faster than light according to he current calculation most likely 3 zeroes faster or slower
@@tayoabass294 what does the speed of light have to do with anything
@@fastpoptart Light itself is the fastest natural thing in existence and if you saw the answer to the calculation which I put In the answer that is nearly overwhelming and he also transends time itself.
@@tayoabass294 speed is irrelevant to silver surfer because he has hacks
@@fastpoptart Transending time is gokus hack but I think goku is sky father level so hacks won't really work
Putting anime/manga or movie characters against Comic book characters is a ridiculous thing in itself. I mean they just STOMP everyone due to decades of content.
Unless it's Saint Seiya
@@anasqader3851 still a joke to the mid tier ones
@Ultra Instinct 94 yes
@Supes Is fodder nice joke, world needs people like you who can make everyone laugh. May God Bless You.
@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 Saint Seiya has it's fair share of hax and nigh omnipotents
12:00 I see no mention of UI Goku surpassing Jiren who shook an infinite 5D realm while supressed. You guys conveniently skipped that part. Keep in mind that it was stated that he surpasses time (4D) again when he overpowered Hit. So, there is dimensional tiering and it puts Goku, Broly etc higher than even mr. Mxy's 5D or the Hulk when he busted a planet(!) in the Dark (5th) dimension (so Hulk can't clap Goku, nice wank though). Hell, SSB Goku, in RoF, is technically Omniversal when you consider the multiplier for SSG to SSB. And SSBKKx10 Goku from the U6 tournament can be considered beyond time (5D), because he countered Hit's time stop. Vados' comment when Jiren surpassed Hit indicates that Hit was actaully stopping time and not that it was a power feat, but instead a skill feat. That would make SSBKKx10 Goku from the U6 tournament 5th dimensional and makes Jiren's world of void feat seem less improbable for the ones who are still in disbelief.
There's no rule that states that a 4D being can't surpass 4D. We see them do this all the time, so the comment about Zeno does not make him less powerful. 5D is simply 4D squared. Consider all of Goku's power ups from BotG and it's easy to see that he's 4D in base, but can go dimensions higher due to his power ups/multiplications. Zeno can be a 4D being with higher dimensionsional powers similar to how the Grand Priest is a 4D being, but can create infinite 5D spaces like the infinite world of void. This is why it's good that Dragon Ball has canon multipliers. Goku enters Marvel and Marvel go boom (the multiverse and everything in it at least).
13:55 So Odin destroyed a multiversal structure. The multiverse exists in a 4D space. It's a feat that's above BoTG Goku, but below Jiren's infinite 5D feat.
14:38 Hold up, you're conflating planes of realities (alternate universes)/the Omniverse with dimensions (as if they reached TOAA). So that was way too facile. Jiren's existence alone would be felt throughout the entire Marvel multiverse while Odin had to go HAM with Seth to accomplish the same. Get JOBin out of here.
15:46 Celestials are born from the original universe, they scattered when that universe was shattered into a multiverse. So, technically they're outside our mortal comprehension of time, but they aren't unaffected by time itself (unlike Jiren and Goku). Can they tank UI Goku who is stronger than ToP UI Goku, who is stronger than Limit Breaker Jiren, who is stronger than "infinite world of void" Jiren who make an infinite 5D realm shake by existing? Are they stronger than Eternity? See below for why I'm asking.
17:25 Eternity can be destroyed if Goku can destroy the Marvel multiverse, because Eternity dies with the multiverse and is reborn, while it evolves with it. Can Goku destroy a multiverse? Can high 5th to 6th dimensional being destroy an infinite 4D realm? The answer is "yes".
Also, Whis took 20 minutes to travel to earth, but Beerus once flew to Whis (from their planet) within moments which indicates that Whis was going slow to let the cat nap or watch anime while travelling (the movie made it clear that Beerus television, because of his love for idols and whatnot). So either Beerus is faster than Whis or the feat was an outlier and shouldn't be taken into account now that we have a faster one. And the surfer doesn't travel from outside the universe so every distance he travels is shorter than that of Beerus at that time (with the universe being infinite in size and all).
I'm saying that the Angels are higher dimensional beings, because they can manipulate time with the priest being the highest, because he can create dimensions. Dimensional tiering in dragon ball is literally explained in raw power, the power to break through every limit, even dimensional ones, in often hilarious ways. That's why people downplay Dragon ball so much, they don't understand its complexity. They think that multipliers are a cheap way of writing even though it's the only system that accurately lets you determine the power of a fighter (unlike in Marvel and DCeased). That's why other shows were quick to pick it up (like 7 deadly sins)
It's both complex and easy if you'd just get your calculator out for the multipliers instead of using the Marvel style in which things are made to seem more grandiose than they actually are.
Dude there are infinite multiverses with infinite universes with their own timelines reality space time voids etc all on an infinite scale there are infinite layers of existence that are divided into 3 sections the realm of magic gods and abstracts each all containing infinite structures within them
@@uninstall2482 Infinite multiverses and timelines are nothing to (anime) Goku anymore. When Goku became able to destroy the infinite universe he gained an infinite multiplier. Agreed? Then he absorbed this power into his base (in the anime and movie) and was able to stack SSG on his base. So he gained another infinite multiplier. Which means he can now destroy an infinite amount of universes, which is infinite multiversal. Then, in the U6 tournament he transcended time by moving through frozen time (4D). Every multiverse exists in a 4D plane of existence, because they are affected by time. Then with Zamasu he claimed that he could defeat infinite Zamasu, who was merged with an infinite amount of timelines. They are confirmed infinite, because Zamasu was able to summon clones from there. That solidifies his infinite 4D feat.
The fact that he can destroy an infinite amount of timelines and multiverses means that he can defeat abstract beings. Time is an abstract being that represents infinite time and we've just established that Goku can destroy infintie timelines. Eternity is bound to the multiverse, when the multiverse dies, he dies with it and is reborn when it is born again. So only infinite multiversal powers are needed to destroy Marvel's Eternity. And we have just established that anime Goku is infinite multiversal. Abstract beings don't mean much to Goku anymore. It's just in the Marvel and DCverse that they haven't reached infinite tiers of power themselves. They still need magic to go to higher dimension while Goku, Jiren, Broly, Gogeta and Super Buu just needed to power up to move through dimensions.
Then Goku went to the World of Void, a place where time does not exist and where Goku could go all out. It might be infinite dimensional, it might be infinite 5D (I usually go with infinite 5D), but it can't be like our own dimension because our dimension has time. Goku and Jiren then showed that their power can reach that entire infinite higher Dimension.
@@TheArchevil in no place was is he able to take out infinite multiverses there is no guide books that support this there is no statements from the authors nothing from the daizenshuu support this you are literally going off of assumptions because you know goku is not that strong
@@TheArchevil and btw infinite universe does not equal infinite multiverse did you read what I said I watched dragon ball super and I know the structure of universe 7 and it’s native time line which only has 12 universes not even 28 and no he doesn’t have infinite multiplier never was it stated that it was infinite
@@TheArchevil and even if he was able to end infinite amount of universes would equal only one multiverse not infinite have you any marvel regarding the marvel cosmology
MARVEL CHARACTERS THAT CAN SQUISH GOKU LIKE A GRAPE
The one above all
The living tribunal
The beyonder
Molecule man
Lord chaos
Chaos king
Chthon
Cyttorak
Shaper of Worlds
Shuma-Gorath
In-Betweener
Galactus
Dormammu
Uatu The Watcher
The Stranger
The Celestials
Franklin Richards
Mistress Love & Sire Hate
The Vishanti
Master Order
Death
Eternity & Infinity
Oblivion
Amatsu-Mikaboshi
Onslaught
Skaar
Blue Marvel
Utatu
sentry
What about Kronos?
None of the above
@@prakashnagraj2449 what do you mean
@@prakashnagraj2449 You mean etc lmao
@@prakashnagraj2449 proof?
I love Goku and I want to say so badly he could throw hands with anyone in marvel or dc but I knew already how massively outclassed he is
@Supes Is fodder in base just to make that clear
@Supes Is fodder he's not outclassed in strength but I'm speed and hax so far
@Supes Is fodder zeno is the only multiversal being in Dragon Ball and he gets bodied
@@ap_dreezy3019 in Base? You must watch my video where I debunk Base Goku
@@schemar17 lol just by looking at the thumbnails I can tell you no nothing about dragon ball
Good points about fifth dimensional beings. Yeah no one in Dragon Ball, not even Zeno, is fifth dimensional.
So Goku against DC comics isn't beating Mr Mxyzptlk.
Excluding the games
Have you seen the dbs manga? Plus angels haven’t shown not even close of there full power because whis folded mui goku no diff
@@foreignkamikaze
That doesn't mean anything, the Angels are little bugs compared to Zeno and he's Low-Multiversal at best.
Xeno goku is 5th dimensional
@@nitgen99 how do you know he’s low multiversal at best if he’s never been shown struggle?
Xavier fought against Cyclops as Phoenix who’s primary abilities are optic blasts, Jean Grey as Phoenix has mopped Xavier (with her being the “greatest” Phoenix host and her being an omega telepath).
Nothing to Goku smh
Loool yeah a cosmic force of life and death can’t beat Goku? Sure thing
@@justgohan6346 yeah.. a cosmic being that's full on unable to die or be destroyed can't go up against one whole dude...
It would not be a good idea for Goku to battle World Breaker Hulk. It's a unmovable abject vs an unstoppable force. It's Dark Matter vs Anti-Matter. The battle would create a Black Hole!
The Infinity Gauntlet? Hmm. "Uncatalogued Infinity Stones and Gauntlet detected! Stones and Gauntlet copied and now in storage!" - Omnitrix.
Infinitrix.
Nice to see a Chuckster and Geekodom collab. Great video as usual.
Mr Popo would beat every person in the MCU verse
HE NOT BEATING GOKU, HE NOT BEATING GOKU, WHO YOU KNOW BEATING GOKU
@@gothamgymnast4638 MR POPO OR FARMER WITH SHOTGUN WOULD BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF EVERYONE INCLUDING GOKU
@@jauvarrewilliams8788 Well unless it's hulk trousers
Nice joke buddy
Stop trolling mr Humpty Dumpty haven't trained in he's life because if he is he would have smack cell and destroy him MCU Solo dragon ball
Infamous Iron Man versus Goku Black would be fun as hell to see.
~_~
Congrats for reaching 700k subs, you deserve it! Your hard work is always appreciated!
Very Powerful Character: *EXIST*
DBFans: can they beat goku tho?
Yes they can, but I do believe that there are some marvel universes that he can solo.
@Supes Is fodder He really doesn’t.
@Javair Reid Living Tribunal is far more stronger than DB
I like how were comparing a single character respectively to another universe of characters
That should say something people don't wanna hear it🤭
@@kotoamatsukami- you can grab a single character from marvel and do the same to db. They chose Goku simply because he's the strongest popular db character
Zeno would get clapped too
@@Iam_wIll1 call it what you want 🤫
@Supes Is fodder What's false Zeno getting clapped if he went against Marvel's Abstracts? Don't make me laugh verse is filled with Nigh Omnipotents while Zeno is a child that can only erase and nothing more
Was hoping for a geekdom Seth and chuck vid but geekdom and chuck is baller
Seth is better at scaling
@@heyya3207 Seth is a king
Lol a guy who trained all of his life and was basically made for fighting gets beat by a guy in a wheelchair who rubs his temple 😂
But he would cripple Goku by forcing him inside his mind and locking his powers away while giving him visions of being poked by Thousands of Needles.
And he's not even the most powerful Telepath.
@Supes Is fodder mesh?? Lol Goku has no immunity to extreme mind hax that would be able to lock him inside his own mind, Charles can affect him as soon as he touches down on Earth and will be in an Aizen like illusion, but much more powerful then Aizen ever was, also Aizen's Hypnosis would also be able to affect Goku since it affected Yawach who could see all possibilities and events over Infinite Timelines and should be been able to see a Timeline where Aizen is actually playing him but no, so Charles be well above that in terms of Mind Hax would be able to completely lock Goku is a Universe of no power and suffering.
It'll be like R9K Elsa Is Suffering but with Goku.
@Supes Is fodder sigh... Goku is Multi Universal to Low Multiversal (1000+ Universes in attack potency) but that literally all means absolutely nothing compared to Mind Hax, he has all of that power but he won't be able to use any of it and will be a mere Human when trapped inside his own mind and completely powerless.
What is it that you don't understand?? Power means absolutely nothing in a Mental battle, unless Goku has trained his mind to a Quantum Computer then he won't be able to even touch Xavier.
@Supes Is fodder umm....... did you watch the video?? Have you heard of Odin?? What about The Living Tribunal or The Pre Retcon Beyonder?? Jesus Christ mate you know nothing about Marvel and are obviously a Dragon Ball Fanboy, Goku gets erased from existence by Thanos not even using the weak and easily beaten Infinity Gauntlet but using the way more powerful Cosmic Cube or Heart Of The Infinite Omniverse or Old King Thanos who killed all the Infinite Multiversal Abstracts and the Hyperversal Living Tribunal and there's still several different and more powerful versions.
Evem silver Surfer could turn Goku into an Ice Cube with the Power Cosmic which the Multiverse level Celestials use and which the Celestial Galaxy is also uses.
There's Death who's above everything except for Eternity and then there's Proroge who copied and surpassed the powers of The Living Tribunal.
There's too many Multiversal characters, even Doctor Strange is Hyperversal, but that's Classic Dr. Strange who's above Pre Retcon Beyonder who's above the whole Beyonder Race where Three of them can kill The Living Tribunal.
You know nothing about Marvel or the Mutants, I bet you don't even know who Franklin Richards is or where Jean Grey gets her powers from go and read The End by Marvel where Thanos literally absorbs the Multiverse and the Abstracts including The Living Tribunal and then recreates it because a Boundless being convinced him to let go of Omnipotence.
@Supes Is fodder Z Goku goes from Planet Level to Multi Solar System level, Iron Man could beat him there.
This video smacks nice job geekdom.
You didn't even mention the multiple powers of Silver Surfer, He could literally turn Goku into a popsicle if he wanted to....
Then why didn’t he do that to thanos or thor or galactus I can go on
@@moyhie Because Thanos has molecular resistance, he couldn't even be warped by time and space. Galactus is his creator and infinite more powerful, Thor is a Asgardians God with immunity to molecular reconstruction. Buu could turn them into chocolate, he's not even close to the power of cosmic.
@@jerrickevans buus technique is from magic but surfers is not plus dbs characters have hax resistance as long as you’re more powerful than the other
like Buu? That aint doing sht
@@knighthonor44 Show me where Goku is immune to molecular manipulation, I'll wait.
Y’all Goku Fanboys can’t stand when y’all hero loses to someone outside of the dbz universe 😂😂
i know right??? They Hate it a lot 😂😂😂😂 Marvel and DC are way to Powerful for DBZ and Anime as a whole
What if Chuck was a car salesman??? Too OP
Certified banger
When they forget that silver surfer can literally absorb all of Goku's energy and send it at him
And ui goku eould dodge 😅
vegeta can do that to so its a stale mate on power sucking
@@davyjonesvideos Silver surfer Can regenerate his head Goku would have to erase his entire essence with hakai
@@theunknownpunch3444 so he uses hakai now huh?? Aight....lol
@@youngboy2140 manga
Goku would BEAT SPIDER-MAN'S ASS let's be honest here guys.
And he will defeat Captain America too.
@@henkaistudio YES!!!!!
Here's the reason that no one brings up, WTF is canon in comics, they're all over the place with their 100+ writers, it's kinda ridiculous to compare manga fights to comics because comics have many issues and many writer's and things get rebooted every week, each writer just outdoo eachother because they can't come up with new characters like how manga does since they are characters who have been around for over 50+ years
Exactly they just riding mavel fanboys
Youre asking this now? My man, I was asking this since way before during the whole Goku vs Superman days. Even before Deathbattle people keep talking about Pre Crisis Superman and even pre crisis Superman is written inconsistently as all types of fuck.
I know right? Like Goku shits on every normal version of Superman, until they bring in some random one that is apparently omnipotent because they are lazy at writing and just reboot the character so often which literally shouldn’t be used to power scale
Yeah, I totally agree with your statement. There are so many writers throughout the years that I can't keep up with. Given that, I do believe that there are Marvel Universes that Goku will not beat, but then again I also believe that there are Marvel universes that he can solo.
@@doobasaurus Normal versions of Superman are Post Crisis and etc. Which alone slaps the entire DB franchise.
Marvel Wins
Well done
I feel like most people alive today still can not comprehend the fact that Zeno, with no effort, erased an entire TIMELINE. Thats an entire REALITY and EVERY universe within. Heaven, Hell, the entire macrocosm.
But, sure, lets lowball Zeno to low multiversal. Fuck that trash. We use common sense here.
sackboy creates an infinite timeline to fuck around with rockets
Here we go, new game idea: Capcom vs. Toei🤼♂️
Megaman.exe is kinda 1 of their best bets against toei from what I know😂👍🏾
The thing with Dragonball power is that it boils down to hitting and blasting. Silver surfer has far too many ways to deal with someone even non-violently that allowed all his abilities he would be a hard stop for Goku. The guy rode supernova explosions before Toriyama graduated school
It would make more sense to bring up his actual has not hE rOdE eXplOsIOn (as if that's impressive)
@@dannysdungareedanceoff8481 Not sure what your getting at here cause of the structure of your post but to downplay a supernova is quite the lapse in judgment. The point I am illustrating is that casual durability back in the day for Silver surfer was beyond supernova and that's him choosing to take the blast when he doesn't need to. He can become intangible if he chooses to.
@@RaginBajan don't entertain danny, he's upset over the logical result of this video.
@Supes Is fodder Clearly you don't know the versatility he has. Without going down a vast list, simply the fact that only a handful of DB characters can live in the airless void of space hurts your argument cause the planet being destroyed is a high possibility
@Supes Is fodder Not even intangibility of self and others, creating singulatities in the eyes of your opponents, time travel, sub-atomic shrinking, etc?
"The most powerful and impressive goku is mastered ultra instinct"
Xeno goku: Am i a joke to you?
God fusion Goku: Bitch Please
Xeno Goku > DBS Manga Goku
@@unknownvariable9239 you're incorrect please change that now
Fr. Xeno Goku is powerful.
@@powerjolt7215 CC goku is the strongest goku ._.
Marvel wins no difficulty
Ironman accidentally shattered the Phoenix Force, the plan was to hopefully destroy it.
Shattering it escalated the situation and made them much worse, which is why currently in Avengers run Ironman said that they cannot fight the Phoenix Force and win.
It wouldn’t even be a challenge if I use odinforce, plus I have way more powerful versions!
The fact that u need literal GODS and 100 alternate versions of characters to be one man is frying me
These GODS are just the Sky fathers they're like the low tier in Marvel, and he used mainly 616 versions
@Supes Is fodder This is pretty much you "Noooooo Goku wins!! Noooooo"
@Supes Is fodder Naruto claps Goku
@Supes Is fodder Naruto > DBS*
@Supes Is fodder Naruto claps Goku and the Grand Priest together just accept it fanboy
Knull managed to defeat and make two Celestial’s apart of his army.
Sentry destroyed one of Knull’s Celestial’s before being killed by Knull
everyone gangsta until goku gets a zenkai boost
Put Xeno Goku in the Marvel Universe.
Only in SSJ4 he won't get bodied that hard
Oop
If it’s comics he still gets bodied
I don't see how xeno goku is supposed to be stronger than current manga goku?
Xeno goku scale's to post ToP blue goku. Manga goku did what heroes goku didn't. That's master ui at will.
Current manga goku is the most powerful version right now
@@Jiron127 Exactly lol these people don’t even do there research 😂
The Living Tribunal would one shot all of DBS, and he’s not even the strongest being in that universe. Goku doesn’t stand a chance in hell against ALL of Marvel.
Wouldnt one shot arale doe
@@EA97_ dabatable
@@EA97_ boy stop trolling
@MJR ZZZ read the comics before trolling
@MJR ZZZ naw
splash of uploads from the holy trinity you love to see it
Assuming he's going against all of marvel.. He would get either One-Shotted, Speed-Blitzed, or violently outhaxxed by pretty much any of the mid-top tiers. Another thing that most of us DBZ fans can't accept is that the DBZ cast isn't as powerful as people think it is.
*here comes Martin Ramirez*
@@lfc_szn4274 Yep.. Inb4 some meme tier DBZ wank.
@@rikuradical9670 Yep.
@@rikuradical9670 yeah
Facts
I think Goku would be too fast for the psychic mutants. In ultra instinct they wouldn't be able to get a visual on him
Theres also the fact of could they even sense his mind when ui is basically your body acting on its own, no thoughts getting in the way, his mind could be either very vulnerable or almost unsenseable to them
@@jusquanorthwind1016 they could. Ultra instinct doesn't mean you don't think about anything. Whis explains that Goku is focused on the battle and the here and now so on some level he still would be.
But either way Goku would obliterate them.
Professor x doesnt need to see to sense someone. He's stopped time before.
@@C-Swooop it doesn't matter. You can't think at the speed of light. Goku moves faster
@@malyxxplays7949 he literally just told you prof x would beat him but ok lmao
Hell yea! Glad you brought Chuck!
With Goku getting beat up repeatedly, eventually he'll get strong enough to beat anybody.
fair point
They would kill him TF
@@schemar17 and keep getting wished back using the dragon balls
@@alfredofletes7106 they would kill the dragon 🤣🤣🤣
@@schemar17 on that logic, Goku would get wished back 4 times, 3 if they destroy earth to destroy them. That should be enough for Goku to get the power boost required to beat anyone in MCU.
Gokus a Beast but it’s marvel Characters out there that will body this man. Dc and Marvel Comics will always be my #1
Yes, no doubt goku can't beat all of marvel or dc, it's still fun to see how far goku gets in either verse
Goku would squash
@@joshuadunn4710 not all of marvel
Daniel Pita the farthest Goku can get is the infinity gauntlet. After that is him just repeatedly getting his butt whooped
@@MrRain-tt8rs Agreed, it's possible for goku to reach those heights its like every arc he obtains a new level of power
Grats on 700k
Not really a big marvel fan but the comics look like it just takes new forms out of the characters ass to mop the floor with villains just like modern dragon ball movies because powelevels don't make sense
By saying power levels make no sense I hope you're referingonly to Marvel because power levels do make sense in DB, it's just that there are people unable to comprehend simple things and bring up examples easy to explain such as SSB Goku vs Krillin.
@@brolybanderas42 I was refering to marvel and Dragon ball super and Z because the Frieza saga power levels didn't make sense and dbz abridged proved it too
@@Cay9z How do they make no sense friend? Tell me so I can debunk the hell out of you.
@@brolybanderas42 You really want me to write a whole novel? Surpassing the capacity of words and letters that the MCU comics itself holds? Nah
@@Cay9z You're not very smart friend, that's your problem, you simply can't understand very simple things that happen in DB anf thus your limited mind concludes they don't make sense. Give me 10 examples of the Namek power levels making no sense and other 10 from DBS. SPOILER: You'll lose.
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If that's the case id like to see a team up between Kang the conqueror and Demigra🔥
Both are time villains.
There’s at least like 20 of them almost as powerful as me, as powerful or me, or more powerful than me…
I mean the one above all, Thor, hulk, the celestials, MAYBE the eternals, there can be a few ngl
@@kakarot5860 you’re damn right kakarot
Btw silver hair ultra instinct goku is called masterd ultra instinct
Probably the most chaotic factor of these versus is the fact that db has a consistent author/authors a but Marvel has way too many authors for so many series which make power scaling in marvel weirder than any manga.
I guess in this video they ain't using highballed versions. They using mid-ball.
its cool to see a video like this where commentators actually know whats going in in current dragon ball AND current marvel. Its usually one or the other and you get a current version compared to what the other one was up to in the 90's.
The Marvel and dc verse Are just in a different tier
@MJR ZZZ cap
@MJR ZZZ There way stronger then Dragon ball super you mean lol sorry you’re so stupid and facts go right over you’re head
@@SubSonicCub Its the obvious the dude only watches Dragon Ball and never picked up a Comic book in his life
Marvel fanboys
@@Gokuvsnaruto22 Lol it’s not about being a fanboy it’s just straight facts . Marvel has characters that are above interdimensional levels.
Surprised Zarathos wasn’t mentioned. Also, it’s very possible other timelines may have more than 12 or not as the events aren’t exactly the same so we don’t really know if every timeline outside like 3 has only 12 universes could still have all 18.
Love when you do these types of videos.
Hey Geekdom could you do Son Goku vs DC??
Listen I love both , but when I hear y’all say oh Thor & silver surfer being to fast 💨 I’m like no theirs a difference between flying fast & fighting fast .. Thor & surfer aren’t throwing 100 punches in 5 seconds like goku .. combat wise they not fucking with goku period or db characters period y’all bugging respectfully
They also massive undermined Xenoverse goku, xenoverse goku can instant transmission through TIME, and yes there's your point to flying speed isn't combat speed. Mui goku could destroy the Celestials by making a giant version of himself, and making clones of giant versions of himself who would have his speed and reflexes.
@@BohemianGroveify maybe it’s because we’re going by the canon goku?
@Mikey Garcia Jiren was able to travel accross entire universe in dragon ball in seconds. Goku also has no limit to his instant transmission at its best. Movement speed are irrelevant to Combat speed, striking speed and striking power, same with lifting strength.
Silver surfer would last no chance against goku, not even with his hax.
@Mikey Garcia You have read the dbs Manga to see that becuase they didn't show that in the anime, there's a whole Manga episode about the pride troopers.
@Mikey Garcia Again its not a big deal anyway becuase flying speed is not equal to Combat speed or striking power.
One of the best videos you’ve done
Goku has plot armor he can't lose.
Marvel Heroes also have plot armor tho. So that's cancelled out
@@zettovii1367 nope, can't defeat the toriyama ass pull
@@redwolf915
Yeah no, Stan Lee can more than help with that. At least Goku tends to be somewhere close to the opponents he manages to beat. But Stan Lee will even have a street level character like Spiderman beat some universal demon.
Batman does
Marvel beings literally manipulates plot lmfao
Cosmic spider man, God Doom, The living Tribunal, Thanos with the Astral regulator, and more can whoop Goku
By cosmic spiderman you mean the version that appeared in the spider verse event.
The one with captain universe powers?
I don't you needed to tell this, everyone knows they'd whoop goku😁
chinmay sharma yes
Supes Is fodder Goku cannot beat Cosmic spider man or Thanos with astral regulator. Maybe God doom but even he killed Thanos with ease
@@MrRain-tt8rs If we are only using the highball feats then only living tribunal can beat him in a slugfest.
The doom arc had to many plotholes so I am not gonna talk about it since I did not read it.
I don't like using weapons to since then Goku also has the Zeno button.
Also I might be wrong but isn't cosmic spidey just universal?
MUI Goku is Universe level character, that is he can destroy univetse with his power, but so is Rune King Thor ... so Goku is on the top level with Marvel, but he could not win agains One Above All that is Omniverse level.
Xeno would destroy them all. Just erasing them from existence without the infinity stones and gauntlet. 🤣🤣
I'm doubting xeno can erase the abstracts
@@EA97_ yup I agree I was referring to the marvel abstracts like mistress death , lord order and master chaos
goku not nothing did u just hear what Chuck said Goku get clapped
@@JACQUEZ23 Chuck is just like you and me. A fan. Not saying he's wrong but he's also not the authority of all things marvel.....
Xeno doesn’t compare to the god tiers in Marvel 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Rune king Thor smacks
Yeah.......
Yeah....
Yes
@MJR ZZZ nobody else is bleaving you and goku =tiny rock level and laser level troll
@MJR ZZZ lol wow no one believes you troll . You’re only convincing yourself
Just 3 Brothers absolutely love DBZ. Nice video, very well done. We've done podcasts on DBZ before and its probably our favorite subject. HULK SMASH THO!!!
Ok so you will use the most powerful version of Goku but wont use the most powerful versions of some of the other characters? That seems unfair to me.. but this is is still cool
Yeah.
Goku is so OP nowadays that he would probably be able to take out of large numbers of the Marvel Universe. Thor, Hulk, Phoenix, Thanos, Juggernaut, Hercules, and other god tier characters would give him more of a challenge.
Phoenix Force one shots the DBS-verse.
Goku only beats like 10 or 20 percent of Marvel