Thrusting Swords are the Best Weapon in Elden Ring - Elden Ring All Thrusting Swords Breakdown
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- Thrusting Swords are the Best Weapon in Elden Ring - Elden Ring All Thrusting Swords Breakdown
In this Elden Ring video, we're going to be showing why Thrusting Swords are the best weapon in Elden Ring. This is the ninth video of our new series where we go through each weapon type and show you what you can do with each weapon and why you may or may not use these weapons on your build.
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0:00 - Elden Ring Thrusting Swords Showcase
0:38 - Thrusting Swords Pros
4:08 - Thrusting Swords Cons
5:18 - Frozen Needle
7:29 - Rapier
8:38 - Estoc
9:43 - Noble's Estoc
10:36 - Cleanrot Knight's Sword
11:31 - Rogier's Rapier
12:33 - Antspur Rapier
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I wanna see you weasle your way out of the "daggers are OP" vid. dual erdsteels made me git gud at crucible incants because of how underwhelming the damage is without status.
I've always thought it the best. I've used them and their heavy counterparts for my sword and board faith build.
Anspur may not have the best damage but getting that quad Status effect proc outweighs it's lack of damage
Yeah they are fun to dual but I think there are better options. If you like the rot then use the greathammer that inflicts rot. It will stagger with 2 hits and does like 850+ ar. The thrusting weapons are best with bleed for me. Besides the frozen needle. I just think stagger is best and you don't get stagger with the small thrusting swords. Greatswords and hammers just slap pve
@@stompingpeak2043 i got 4 files with different builds, Greatsword is definitely the best for PVE. Hit hard but doesn't take a decade to swing the sword
@@stompingpeak2043 stagger is great but thrusting sword pair well with shields because of the poke. For strictly pve both are up there as some of the best options in the game. They hit faster than large weapons too so statuses are stronger, especially when powerstancing.
Antspur with poison + frozen needle made quick work of the chad Bell Bearing Hunter
I use the banished knights halberd primarily for stagger effect.. it’s just the most balanced weapon for me in this game, basically every knight-type build I have is using it. Sweepies, pokies, and it’s still a pretty nimble weapon compared to the damage it can do.
This game... I am nearly 200 hours in and have not even equipped a Thrusting sword let alone thought on their potential. Definitely appreciate the video for opening my eyes 🙏
True but I m 300 hours. Going to ng+7. Gonna use that combo with bleed and rot or bleed and freeze on my next 5th play through
Antspur + Frozen Needle combo carried me through a good 70% of my first time through the game, and I didn't even think to get real nasty by converting the Antspur to something like Poison/Frost/Bleed. I wasn't playing the two of them at the most "optimal" or meta level, but I had tons of fun with those rapid hits, status effects, and Curved Sword talisman. I felt like a blender on legs with how quickly I was going through enemy health bars.
I DID THE SAME THING!!! The frost bite was amazing with the ranged r2 and the rot would seal the deal
Bleed so that you can use the bleed talisman
Innate Rot so you can use the poison/rot talisman
One or both of the “consecutive attacks increase damage” talismans
YOOO I thought I was the only one haha i used antspur and frozen needle too
A major advantage of the Rapier, along with its crit mod, is the fact that Astrologers can use it with baseline stats. It's a great early game weapon for mages, especially after you get the Assassin's Cerulean Dagger.
Wish it was farmable so I can have several with different AoW installed. But its only 1 per playthrough.
I just pick Prisoner to have a thrusting sword immediately
Their biggest problem is actually landing the hits, especially on enemies with stick legs like Regal spirit, gargoyles etc. Also, they sometimes tend to "slide off" enemies with conical shapes, like the larger rats.
I played a dual thrusting sword build in my first playthrough and absolutely loved it. Phenomenal attack speed, and the versatility of switching tactics mid fight is unmatched by any other weapon type.
One weakness I felt while playing with trusting swords is the hit box.
If you don't lock on to the enemy, the attack lot of the time whiffs.
Same thing while playing vs oddly shaped enemies like astel.
You have to lock-on for any kind of thrust attack, no matter the weapon.
And the Regal Ancestor Spirit
@@cod3n4m36 I raged so hard vs ancestral spirit because my rapiers weren't hitting him 😭
@@botmushin8878 Yes but a lot of other weapons have non-thrusting attacks which don’t necessarily require a lock on, that’s his point.
I noticed this tooo
Super small thing that you missed about thrusting swords: i was combing the motion value spreadsheet and noticed that 2h block counters have a 825% poise damage multiplier. Thats the highest in the game, albeit on a class with poor block mitigation and low base poise damage. However, this leaves rapiers just below UGS for counter poise damage
something about the Estoc: it has (I think) the fastest secondary R2 in the game. it comes out just frames slower than the secondary R1. this also means a Feint can be used extremely quickly after the first R2, which can then chain into a lunging R1, as Feints are basically a Backstep
I remember the first time I used thrusting swords. The Tree Crucible Knight in Leyndell was utterly beyond me. I couldn't hit fast enough to fight him in melee, and I couldn't get the room I needed for magic. Eventually, I dual-wielded Frozen Needle in my off-hand with an Ice Cleanrot Sword with Bloodhound's Step in my main. I took him apart in seconds! I didn't even notice his health dropping, it went so fast.
These videos are basically just screaming to me 'try this new build and play respec again' and I love it.
parrying with thrusting sword actually gives me an idea that you can both power stance and have ability to parry which is really cool. Imagine you found attack window and when enemy tries to fight back, you make parry and crit
Great vid! Will heavy thrusting swords have a video of their own in the future? Thanks for the wealth of knowledge in keeping Elden Ring fresh!
Great job!
I really appreciate these videos more than I can adequately express. I've just unlocked the ability to respec my build and I want to be adventurous and do it, but I'm intimidated by having to learn a new play style so it helps to know in advance what I should expect
Awesome!! This is the one I’ve been waiting on! Thanks as always, I value your work and appreciate you putting these together, thank you.
Can we talk about how badass it looked parrying Rings of Light? I've never seen that before
Thank you! Glad to finally have your insight to the most underrated weapon class.
I've played a sorcerer build for over 300 hours, think it's time I tried something new. This seems like a great way to go, thanks.
keep em coming guys! These videos are great!
I think my favorite build I've played with is my double antspur rapier with poison seppuku. The move set is so satisfying. Maybe not the best weapon type because play style is so important to whether a weapon is good, but certainly an extremely powerful bunch of pointy things in the game!
Great videos! Looking forward to your colossal sword guide.
Im writting this before see the video only to lead constance of how much i was waiting for this new episode thanks for this series and for the build ones, are very interesting and originals, keep going with this stuff, its pure gold.
Nice I've been waiting on this one and Colossal swords keep up excellent work.
love this series keep it up!
Great video as always. I will make the Cleanrot Knight Sword build
Just Started a new play through with duel estoc. Honestly started it after watching your crimson duelist video. Having fun.
Always fun videos these, don't see thrusting swords used a lot, I keep meaning to do a rapier and parry dagger run in ER as I did it in DS1.
Looking forward to the axes.
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Anspur on first playthru for me helped a ton. I paired it with the Frozen Rapier and swapped which was in my main hand depending on the area/enemies or which ash I wanted to use. Cool thing is you can keep in in the off hand and two hand it, use seppuku and since it keeps the buff, go back to dual wielding and murder just about anything with bleed/rot/main hand element all without using a ton of spells or items.
... I didn't know about the feignt.
That changes alot about my perception about this weapon class. Thanks for that.
Makes a thrusting sword page builds make more sense now.
A few months ago, I tried to do a playthrough of all the Soulsborne games I had access to and tried to have a consistent build across all of them. For this build, I decided to try the rapier, a weapon that I never gave much time to before. Starting with Demon's Souls, going through the Dark Souls trilogy, then Bloodborne and finally Elden Ring, many aspects of the build had to be tweaked and modified across the series but the rapier remained consistent. From this experience, the rapier has become perhaps my favorite weapon type. It's fast, it does decent damage, works with a shield and I seldom have to worry about it bouncing off the walls in tight corridors like with other swinging weapons. It's become a core part of one of my favorite Elden Ring builds.
Thank you for the great vid.
A other good vidoe dude keep you rock
This video inspired me to try out dual thrusting swords. I'm using two poison infused cleanrot rapiers with poison moth flight. It's literally SHREDDING through stuff. So much fun. Gonna roll KoR Exultation, Millicent's Prosthesis and Winged Sword Insignia when I get that far into the game to make it even stronger. I'd use the mushroom head, but I play fashion and it looks awful 😂
As a man who plays fashion, I understand. I use a build where I sorta roleplay as a Raya Lucaria Scholar who failed all the Conspectuses and is becoming Elden Lord to prove himself, and its amazing to use Gavel of Haima with a tiny fkn sword in my main hand
Slapped stormstrike ash of war onto the nobles estoc and enjoyed it quite a lot. great video
I'm on my first play through of Elden Ring and am currently dual wielding the frozen needle and Rogier's rapier with bleed on it and it is just amazing.
Ive been using estocs in pvp recently, and ive been having fun with them. Do a greatspear video.
Glad to see this. I saw someone mention that Bloody Helice has i-frames during its weapon art and have been meaning to try it.
You can also put a bleed affinity with poison mist as a skill on anspur if you don’t want to stab yourself. That’s what I did as it’s a little easier to reapply in the middle of a fight. I also paired it with frozen needle, lord of blood exultation, rot exultation, and rotten wing sword insignia for the quad status build. This is how I finally beat Melania.
I did this combo as well, then in NG+ just did 2 Anspurs
I’ve been running power stanced Antspur rapier with a siniliar setup. Both are poison, one with seppuku, other with poison moth flight. Poison moth flight removes poison so you can reapply it, which is super easy with how fast you attack, enabling multiple profs of kindred of rot exaultation
Use the scavenger curved sword and a raptor talon. Occult sepukku on scavenger and bleed sepukku on the raptor talon. You'll kill the rot queen phase 1 in like 10 seconds. Then you'll kill her second phase before she gets out of the bloom.
interesting build i did was two cleanrot swords with endure on the main hand. with endure, you can trade with almost anything and not stagger for a few seconds. combo that with millicents prosthesis and rotten wing sword insignia and the spear talisman and you can genuinely melt bosses by trading into their attacks.
i was able to kill radahn with this setup before he could transition to his second phase. highly recommend trying it out
I am new to Souls games so I was far from meta builds (and wanted to avoid looking up stuff), but I beat the game the first time using Rogier's rapier, a medium shield, and the Black Knife Dagger. NG+1 and 2 I looked up more meta stuff and ended up rolling with twin Godskin peelers as a fav but I had a lot of fun sword and shielding it my first run :)
I started out on a full DAGGERS ONLY build, thriving off of duel wielding the reduvia and the black knife, but now my incantations are doing far more damage than I could ever hope and its time to switch weapons. As the natural progression of a dexterous and sneaky character, its time to pick up the thrusting swords! cannot wait, and I'll choose which two I use based on this video.
I wish he had combine heavy thrusting swords in this video one time since they are only four of them
I was looking at the great epee Didn’t realize it was heavy thrust weapon
@@jeffspalding5368 it’s a really solid heavy thrusting sword imo
Great job showing the move sets and comparisons
I’m thinking antspur with chilling mist
Riviera with flint blade phalanx
You should make a video on heavy thrusting weapons, there's only 4 but are greatly underrated, the Great Epee with bleed is a powerhouse
Almost to the heavy thrusting swords.
I can’t wait!!!
As I started with Prisoner I spent a lot of my early game with the Estoc (all the way until herpaderpa moonviel). I do like thrusting swords still, but I feel the thrust gets dodged a LOT more often by enemies (or just straight up miss-aimed by the user) than slashing weapons.
Dual thrusting swords @ 30dex/52Int, a backup Azure Glintstone staff for fast cast spells, & the Quickstep Ash of war gets real nasty. Works great with unorthodox spells like Ambush shard & Carian Retaliation
Which of thrusting swords did you use? I'm thinking of doing the same build.
@@michaelluigi3309 estoc
used dual estocs with bloodhound step for my first playthrough. super fun fast high damage build
Im using the Antspur Rapier right now. Love it!!!😊
Rogier’s is my personal favorite just for the heavy attacks. It comes out so fast and does such good damage that I don’t even use the normal light attacks any more.
Interesting, I never actually used thrusting swords in all of my Soulsborne gaming over the years... Maybe I'll have to give them a shot. I already finished NG using various builds and ending with dual greatswords (Blasphemous MH and Milos OH). I'll admit that I generally just thought thrusting swords seemed weak, but you clearly show that they aren't.
What about Heavy Thrusting Swords? How do they compare to their non-heavy cousins?
Thanks for making cool stuff and investigating so many potential builds in this amazing game.
I use Antspur with bleed/Seppuku and Frozen Needle... Rot, Bleed and Frostbite.
Melts through health in PvE and panics people in PvP, sets them up for easy roll catching, love it 🤘🏻
I hope future dlc adds more thrusting swords and great thrusting swords. Very fun archetype with relatively slim picking.
Hey, Great Epee is best, more poise in every hit. Long reach, weapon from a start, great stats. That's amazing :) Can you cover this type of weapons guys? Thx
i got carried by the rogier rapiers ash of war on my first playthrough, that thing was no joke, sure it was pretty mediocre damage from the rapier itself but being able to stagger almost any enemy on 1 use of the ash of war ment it was an easy kill on anything, and i could just kite away and wait for it to procc the stagger almost exclusively.
my intent was to use an int/dex build to have aoe spells to account for multiple small enemies but down the road i just felt i didn't use the spells nearly enough to warrant the int so i went full dex til the end and it served me better, and later i messed around with several rapier builds myself.
now i'm currently thinking of doing a page build, meaning i would use a crossbow in the off-hand and a rapier in the main hand and potentially use some consumable items like parfumes or pots or special bolts in the crossbow for those rare occasions where they could be useful, it's probably something i will be doing in the expansion or test a little bit before the expansion hits.
A buddy gave me his Godskin Stitcher when I started the game, and used it throughout. I played the majority of my first run solo, so using that and a shield did me some good work.
I still use that to this day! Its soo good.
I have loved them since the very beginning a great versatile weapon!
I use a thrusting sword on my Prisoner class and it's incredibly FAST and I can stun lock most trash mobs.
Love the video series!
Thrusting swords have always interested me but I could never get the build right. Thank you for the ideas.
I love the thrusting swords because they look so much more elegant than most others
Running dual Antspur atm as part of a Flame build. It's absolutely chews enemies up!
Dual Wing of Astel is my favourite pair for dual wielding but Antspur is a close second.
keep an astel wing in the right hand, and try a frost shamashir with your choice of ash of war in the left hand. loses some fashion points but much more utility
I used bloody antspur + frozen needle since unique weapons are super easy to upgrade and eventually transitioned the needle into cold rogiers rapier for my RL1 playthrough (I got the stats through talismans)
Can confirm thrusting swords OP.
Hopefully he continues these, but there's definitely a lot to cover with patch 1.07
Can't wait for the "Flails are the best weapon in elden ring"
Loved using Rodgir's Rapier
Really wish the Frozen Needle would scale with INT. Would be amazing on a spellblade build.
So all weapon types are the best weapons? Got it. 👌
A great weapon to pair offhand or as a backup with a thrusting sword is a whip of some sort; they all (except the Urumi) do strike damage!
So if your foe has a shield or resists piercing and/or slash, whip away! And using grease or an armament buff on whips looks awesome (Scholars Armament on a whip looks beautiful).
I was thinking that and am currently making a build around it 😂
Bestoc has been my main weapon since Dark Souls. Thrusting swords are basically the only European blades that Fromsoft has done justice - they don't handle like axes with simplistic swings or even just blunt clubs (that stupidly hit the ground and kick up earth as part of their combos), and actually properly function as the sword part next to the board.
Sacred blade Estoc has never let me down. I always pull it out with undead around
It seems to be a really powerful and versatile weapons class. My personal problem with this class is the moveset, I really hate these poking/thrusting attack animations 😅
Yeah same for me, I'm not a fan of thrusting swords just like I'm not a fan of most of the spears. All it does is pokes. That's why I like weapons like the claymore, has some horizontal swings has some vertical swings and has a poke. It's varied and I like that... It's not the best greatsword sadly but it's not the worst either.
Try dual wield jump attack, changed my mind on their moveset.
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@@nathreetimesnineequalstwen7172 I definitely will try that and also some experiments with shields, blocks and parries. Thats why I like his videos, they give often input for combinations I didn't try before.
@@marikasdaughter6263 I will try them out again in dual weild, but my curren favorite are great/collosal swords and collosal weapons at the moment. But sometimes that changes, for example when I started playing, I never thought, I would enjoy melee, then I tried Katanas, curved swords and then great swords 😊
@@ramrodbldm9876 wtf? This is the cringiest comment I’ve seen in a long time lmao
i have literally been waiting since this series started for the straight sword video.... please tell me its soon.
According to mption values of ER weapons, thrusting and heavy thrusting swords actually do the same damage s R1 when shieldpoking, they have motion values of 100. While spears and greatspears only get 85... Only downside of shieldpoking is much slower attack rate
im loving the estoc with cold infusion, especially the slash heavy attack that helps me deal with multiple enemies. only problem is the damage tho
I like the Estoc because the slashing R2 can push medium shields aside for some quick stabs
I’m doing new game plus with antspur in my right and frozen needle in my left. First trying most bosses. Winged sword insignia and Millicent’s prosthesis, dragon crest great shield and kindred of rot. It shreds.
Great Video!!! How is Rogier's Rapier NOT a "unique" thrusting weapon? LOL
Please do greathammers next.
I was an idiot and saw this video before I knew this was a series for every weapon archetype so I ended up making a new character for this build only to realise that you have several other videos like this lol.
Well they are actually good so I hope you have fun haha
@@Fextralife here’s some engagement for your clickbait bro
I don't know if you tried the swords on a new game but I did an entire run of the game with thrusting and then another with normal swords. The biggest problem with thrusting swords is that the majority of the time you're simply not dealing a lot of DPS which makes bosses 10x harder to deal with. More so that the class doesn't do a lot of poise damage so you can't utilise the crits for non-parryable enemies (tools can stagger enemies but still).
I ended up using the Cleanrot swords since you can farm them, rapier was good for quick parrying but honestly if you have to switch you might as well use the dagger (Misercorde), Antspur rapier was good for the effects but you don't get it until mid game which may or may not be worth the hassle.
Regarding bosses again, it feels that fighting them is much more of an attrition battle than a proper battle, I would take off millimetres of boss health (with sword at +10 in some cases) only to see youtube videos of other classes at the same point in the game easily do 3-5x the damage. While that might work for some bosses/enemies, given the high health and high damage output of Elden Ring's bosses, taking longer than needed makes the game much much harder than say a heavy hitting weapon (again you have no poise damage so it's not like you get a break, it's constantly trying to get shots in). Also a side note is that normally the shorter rapiers are just simply too short to hit bosses, the same problem was in DS1 and DS3 so nothing new but it makes a lot of weapons entirely unusable.
For other From games the rapier has always been bad (playing DS:R with rapier atm, I straight up can't use it on bosses because the DPS is so bad), so it's nothing new to the series.
light roll weight, dual wield Frozen needle + blood infused Antspur Rapier would be quite fun build
I've been sleeping on thrusting swords in this game man. I csnt believe how good they are! I should've known since DS2's Rapier was an absolute steam roller of a weapon when I played it. And Elden Ring is obviously Dark Souls 2: Two
0:00 Intro
0:44 General pros and cons
5:18 Frozen Needle
7:29 Rapier
8:38 Estoc
9:42 Noble's Estoc
10:36 Cleanrot Knight's Sword
11:31 Rogier's Rapier
12:34 Antspur Rapier
For my own reference:
Frozen Needle sounds very interesting for a NG playthrough. I can plan to have a back-up for NG+ and beyond that I upgrade alongside Frozen. I'm interested to try thrusting swords based on their assets as discussed in this video, I had no idea they had so many benefits.
Cold Estoc + Fire Noble's Estoc for the swag sounds fun. I imagine most if not all of these weapons will benefit from some kind of status effect as NG cycles start accumulating due to the higher health pools of enemies.
Cleanrot + Shield sounds like a solid playthrough I haven't considered yet. Could be a good introductory build to the thrusting sword moveset. Rogier's + a parrying shield is also a playstyle I hadn't considered. Why isn't Rogier's Rapier a unique weapon??
Antspur Rapier sounds like it has a lot of NG++ beyond potential because of all the status effects, but I wonder if that really will be as effective as it sounds considering the low damage. I get the feeling I may prefer a stronger-hitting weapon that can also apply status, since once the status is applied the build-up potential is useless until the status wears off.
I love the 'Best Weapon' tag on all the videos. I also love the fact that it irritates some people. Keep up the good work.
Rogier's rapier guard counter R2 breaks posture super quick. 100 phy shield plus Rogier's rapier FTW!
Mmm i got the Antsurp rapier n Cleanrot sword ty for the tip
One nice thing early game is that Rogiers Rapier comes upgraded a good bit and the phalanx will carry the enchantments or greases out on tge sword since it's all physical damage. Idk if it's intended, but you can do bloodflame on it, fire, give me strength, and flame shrouded cracked tear, as well as magic shrouded cracked tear, and every buff will apply to the phalanx for god knows what reason.
Thats crazy. I think not many people know that
@@Oliverelgato1 So I tested it and the flame tear doesn't enhance the phalanx. It either only carries the status effect or the flame damage was so minimal that it didn't show.
Might go get the nobles estoc and make a fancy duelist build lol
I told my friends that is the best weapon type in the game and they denied it. They didn't know that rapiers are so lethal. Now they know. Also great video!
hope you do one for regular swords
My first ever playthrough I used the great epee and it was good tbh
Looking forward to Colossal Swords!
i rly love thrusting sword, one of my favorite along side reapers and twinblades
It's for sure the most technical weapon class
Since day 1 I’ve kept a thrust in one slot for npc invasions. It’s so fast they constantly stagger.
While not sold on them for NG+ and beyond, for me the Frozen Needle is the best and most fun early game weapon.
2x rogier's rapier, or frozen Needle, methinks. I really like the versatility of frozen needle, despite being one of the shortest rapiers, it is one of the longest, because of that r2 ability, lmao. It's kind of a nutty rapier! :3