@paulpaul3068 bought some more protective gear for it plus some Clark pads for the unit. I'm willing to bet it's more fun than scooting once I get used to it.
I have the RS lite and it ticks all the boxes I want in an escooter. It's low to the ground, very agile, looks great, $1000 cheaper than it's big bro that only goes about 8mph faster, easy to fold and transport, feels very safe and stable and is ready to go out out-of-box.
Just got the Black Friday deal on the rs lite! Any recommendations for upgrading the handlebars? Advice for offseason storage? It will arrive in a week but won’t get used until spring. Thanks!
I recently purchased the RS and I totally love it. I have never really rode any other scooter for comparison but feel totally comfortable and confident on the Inmotion RS.
Good to hear it! Lot of people are getting the miles on this scooter this year! We ended up with about 4k on the RS and 1500 on the Lite! Prob bleed the brakes over the winter but they are ready to rip next season for sure!
Thank you for your excellent review. I too have a Inmotion RS Lite and I couldn't agree more. It's the only high speed scooter I've ever ridden that I can almost relax at high speeds. And it's nimble like a much smaller scooter. Keep up the great work!!
Thank you really appreciate the kind words! It becomes pretty obvious once you own the RS just how well it rides, glad you came to the same conclusion. My hope next year is we can get a more powerful controller from Inmotion so we can upgrade our scooters and get even more acceleration!
Goodness. this makes me so, so happy and greatly confirms my decision to go with the InMotion RS Lite right before Black Friday. I pulled the trigger from Voro, used a code and received an additional $100 off to make the price $2399. With tax and the interest (from Affirm pay), I walked away at $2700 "out the door" or rather, shipped to me. I've only gotten to ride it a time or two (it's freezing in SW Ohio), but, I can already tell it's fantastic. The build quality, everything... buttery smooth acceleration, phenomenal braking, and just sit-back-and-smoke-a-cigar riding... Nothing is lacking. Eventually, I'll upgrade to the full RS battery for longer range, but, I am so pleased with the power, stability, braking, and acceleration. Highly recommended... also, I have two NIU KQi 300X models for my kids... I highly recommend them as well. I think they're like the commuter tier of what InMotion is to the hyper tier.
Yeah dude you made a killer choice! I also agree the Niu's are really good entry level scooters! I reviewed that 300x earlier this year too it's a rocket ship! If I do a similar comparison for entry level scooters I'm sure that would be at the top of my list too! I can't wait until warmer weather too this last couple weeks have been brutally cold barely ridden at all over here! Enjoy the scooters and ride safe!
14:38 my yume x11 has the same problem, how do I clean them? Remove and clean with water? Was water sprayed while riding the scooter, maybe it will damage the scooter? Or send it to service? Or buy new ones? Also the sound squiqi. Pleas help me!😢
I should make a similar video for the superscooter playlist and beginner scooters playlist just to compare everything. I don't have nearly as much miles on those but we could still compare the ride quality the same way!
people talk about the rear linkage, when the front suspension set up is fantastic. Nami and Gspace have the best comfortability when riding from my own personal experience.
I like the polish finger throttle. For me it is night and day better because of overall hand grip. I think for anyone trying to break a throttle it will break. Finger rests nicely with no force needed for me to worry about breaking. The set up is important too but i never liked thumb throttle. Unstable for my use. I liken it to a kid on a bmx bike and trying to deal with a thumb while keeping your whole hand secure around the handlebar. Not good at high speeds. Personal preference. Awesome on the Nami 100% 💪
The spring feels really nice but I wish the plastic wasn't so fragile feeling. I hope they can make a version two out of aluminum it would be really nice!
Great review, RS is the clear King. Very interested in the 72v Nami Blast-Max, I hope you get to review that scooter soon, it's been my favorite since it came out. A shame so few people seem to know about it or how good it is. Everyone just went for a Burn-E2 and basically ignored it. IMO, the Nami Blast was the better scooter to ride, all along.
Yeah the Blast Max is pretty sick, I did ride it briefly at the end of last season. It's super fun and stable. I'll try to get one in to review soon! I agree completely it's an upgrade from the Burn-E!
@@ScootaGang Very much looking forward to that reveal and list of changes/improvements. It's never really needed more torque or range. Saw you and Jordan riding it last year, looked like a blast mate! Cheers, love the channel. Jordan's rides are also pretty cool.
What's your thoughts on the RoadRunner RS5 MAX? I was looking at an InMotion RS and RoadRunner RX7 because I want top-quality, BUT I want something that adapts to trail riding (minor-offroad) as well as roads. I don't see myself going 70+ and passing cars on the highway. So for 30# weight savings, and still able to achieve 45-50, that would be perfect for my road/trail adventures. So...do you have any opinions on the RoadRunner RS5 MAX (or something comparable for road/trail ability)??? Love the channel and information!
I rode the RS5 max for about 600 miles this summer, I had a full review for it earlier this year. The scooter itself is alright, but I ran into too many issues with the brand itself that I didn't want to promote them anymore. The scooters are decent but you can get very similar scooters from Kukirin, Ausom, Kugoo, they are all share many of the same components and design for a better deal.
Same love ours too! You almost have as much miles as me, makes me smile to hear it! Same here, nothing major to complain about, had far more issues with my gt pro here it's a complete lemon after only 300 miles. Hope the Gspace is as reliabe as the RS, planning to put the same miles on that thing next year to see! Thanks for stopping by, appreciate your comment! let me know how if you run into any major issues at all, planning to talk more about build quality in further videos, but ours have been very good so far!
@@ScootaGangonly issue I've had was the bad mud guards that will crack if not protected with rubber. I've had to replace my shocks under warranty as the first Gen stock ones were absolutely garbage. I've also upgraded my shocks to nami burn e ones. The stock CST tires are garbage in my honest opinion. Mine had very bad imbalance issues. After PMTs there is no going back. Had my front motor go on me. Front bearings in the motor. They sent me a new one and I'll repair this one. Had to replace the rear swing arm bearing also in the rear. Not expensive stuff just maintenance. Also installed 1/8 rubber strips on top of the battery to stop the banging from that.
No the throttle mapping is based on both the throttle and the controller and how they are programmed to work together. The inmotion app has a throttle mapping feature so you can add new throttles and smooth them out, but none of these other scooters have that feature so you are stuck with how it is when you hook it up.
Yeah I ride all temps as long as the pavement is dry! Def recommend heated gloves and heated vest but it's still awesome down to like 20 degrees F or so is my cutoff
Hello..like your content and watch you frequently I've seen a bunch of"best-of" videos but why don't these manufacturers offer wireless rearview somehow? Seems it would be a viable option over mirrors..I live in the Northeast of U.S.A. and I have nice bar-end mirrors...but started looking into camera /screen combo for glancing down and seeing what the "f" is behind me. We have country traffic here on somewhat small roads. The mirrors add width and work "alright"...be nice to glance down at a 4"-ish screen mounted off the handlebar and immediately see rearview. Manufacturers could offer it as a $100 upgrade or something...It just seems odd they don't think about what's approaching from behind.... Just throwing that out there... Rock on!!
I agree more scooters should come with a mirror. I never used one even until the Vsett 11+ super72 which comes with a left hand mirror. It was pretty useless to me at speed I still check over my shoulder every lane change. It was good for looking behind you while at a stop light to check for cops etc, but when moving fast it was not too useful. Tons of people put a rearview camera mod on their scooter, you can install one like you say for $100 and have it constantly showing whats behind you and even recording it like a dash cam. If you only have one scooter you plan to ride for years, I think it's a good upgrade. But I can't really put that on every scooter I ride so it's not realistic to me. Thinking towards the future, I already asked Inmotion to develop a proper HUD that can attach to our helmet and display things like the speed and etc. Maybe we can just incorporate a camera into that when it comes out in the future. Personally I think it's better to move away from looking at the screen itself and find a way to move the screen to your helmet visor. It would really make riding seemless and much safer to check your dash at high speeds.
@@ScootaGang I've seen video where the RS was gradually accelerated in approximately 2 mph steps up to 50 mph (twist throttle). It was a linear throttle from 0 to 50 mph (on a stand) so perhaps the mid-throttle 'dead' zone is due to accruing wear, as it's the range most used?
Can you save up a bit more money? I think it's worth it to get 11 inch tubeless tires like all the scooters in this video. They are just way better then any 10 inch scooter in that 2k price range.
No and I never will. I sheared off a Nami shock in a wreck last year, it snapped in half. Not even a hard impact just a slide out at like 30 mph. I don't think those shocks are very robust, and they are also too soft for me. They are just very different design, Nami suspension rides like a cadillac aka very soft and cushiony over bumps like for a grandma, whereas Inmotion suspension rides like a formula 1 car, fully connected to the road with a super stiff suspension. Sure they are interchangeable, but in my opinion I'd be taking my racing scooter and turning it into a touring scooter. If you prefer that then go for it, but I will never do that to mine. I really enjoy the racing feel of the RS suspension. I'd be curious to see how much the scooter boats forward and backward on heavy acceleration/braking for those that have made the swap, I bet it would boat more with the Nami shocks then the RS shocks. I'm pretty much done upgrading my RS for now. I'm hoping they will release a new controller next year that we can install to push more amps, but other then that the scooter rides so perfect for me I will only be doing maintenance. Brake bleed is next on the list, they lasted a lot of miles but finally getting soft enough to need fresh oil!
I hear you, man. I don't think Nami pairs up with many TH-camrs so you don't get much of the bias as we see with other companies. I love mine it's like the vrod of hyper scooters. Excellent 👍
@@Spankmepink the heck it isn't. It received best race scooter and the suspension is best of all the other scooters in its class. It's the most slept on scooter is more like it. It's amazing
What do you mean by "Vsetts do not allow e-braking at all until it's down to half battery"? Are you implying that if ebraking at full charge or over 70%+ will fry your controller? Was that the reason? Cause that happen to mine lol
What I mean is when you ride the scooter, it will not e brake at all until it's down to about 72v. So from 84v down to 72v you are braking 100% with the disc brakes only. All these other scooters e brake immediately so it is consistent the whole time you are riding. It's almost a surprise on the Vsett when the ebrake finally kicks in after 15 miles of riding and you feel it for the first time. It was surely a safety feature they programmed in, but it's just a poorly implemented idea because you simply don't get to use any ebrake for the majority of your ride!
Yeah we met them in person at their booth at CES last year, the scooters look very nice, but they didn't want to send us a scooter, so not too sure how I feel about them now.
@ in reality they are just a dualtron with another logo on it. They literally shared the same booth as dualtron at CES. Personally if I really wanted to go that route I would prob just get the dualtron X limited it prob rides the best of all of those from what I hear. But I won’t be investing money to test brands anymore, there’s no reason they get plenty of exposure from my channel it’s worth it for them to send it, if it’s a great scooter. I have a $2500 paper weight right now with this wolf king gt pro I have to get my money back out of somehow
Tried to get the RX7 and it didn't work out. Not sure how it would stack up to these but I think it's too tall for me personally, the deck to handlebar height is about 4-5 inches taller then the Inmotion and Gspace so it would not be very comfortable for me to ride so I can't buy it.
800+ miles on my Dualtron X limited. Finger throttles are the best in my opinion. But seeing some of ur scooters, the angles of throttles and brakes are bad. I tilt mine abit more so you cqn grab the brakes easier.
I find it weird that everyone I see that use electric scooters use no helmet, are they just built diff? I'm way more scared doing 28mph on a scooter than 3 times on a motorcycle
Na we wear helmets and gear every ride and you should too if you are planning to buy one of these scooters! People wearing no helmet simply haven't wrecked yet and don't realize how much it hurts
fun fact, the "polish finger throttle", the sideways throttle on the Inmotion and the Kaabo and Nami are all actually Wuxing throttles, just like the thumb throttle you don't like
Great video, I’ve bn obsessing over the GSpace suspension so great to see u compare the models. Would like to see a steering comparison video with single v double stems, stem angles 📐Thin vs wider decks , lighter vs heavier, Off Road vs Street tires , speed wobbles & dampers . I have a 90lb , 9” deck single stem with exa 291r suspension & street tires & a 120lb , 11.4” deck single stem with KKE suspension & Full Off-Road tires. I find the steering on the lighter scooter completely different & way easier compared to the heavier scooter. I agree the heavier scooters are definitely less practical for riding Off-Road . 🛴💨
It's a great suspension I think it makes the old wolf warriors obsolete once and for all. I think the steering generally feels the same between single and dual stem, it's more so when you pull forward and backward on the handlebars it feels much stiffer and more solid. The stem angle does matter, and that's kind of why I think the RS is better for shorter people. Becuase when you have the bars lowered as far as possible the handlebars are at a comfortable distance from your body. But as you get taller, you have to slide the bars up, but also in and closer to your body. So a very tall person will have less space between their body and the handlebars. I do think they could help a bit buy moving the suspension up one notch to gain some more height overall, but they will still have a bit less space then shorter people like me. Deck just has to be thick enough to hold your feet comfortably, if it's too wide it will be annoying when you step down at stop lights. But the only scooter I've ever had that was too wide was the songzo bt1, everything else is fine to ride. The splach thunder 10 is one of the smallest and I do wish it was a little bigger, but it's a commuter scooter meant to be small. Heavier is always better on the road! I mainly ride street tires, pmt, unless it's an offroad scooter like my gotrax gx3! Having a damper is better then not having one. The inmotions have built in dampers you can tighten really easily. They work great! Gspace just released a new damper bracket you can add, but does require drilling a couple holes in the frame! I rarely get any speed wobbles at all though, I really think that is from poor stance and weight management.
I'm convinced that the suspension system of the MARS GTR is the best! Especially for off-road riding, it has excellent passability! And from what I can see, no matter what others say, MARS always has the highest overall cost-performance ratio! The reason I don't like RS is because their promotion is confusing; they have a smaller battery but claim to have a longer driving range. As for steering, I don't think it's necessary; I'm not sure if it will affect the overall riding experience. And you know what, MARS will make you look cooler!
Inmotion for me. My gt pro is a complete lemon didn't even last 300 miles can't really recommend Kaabo. Nami are a solid second, but I haven't ridden them enough miles to compare them to this extent.
I have an off brand tifgallop, laotie, style scooter (60v dual 2800w motors) with the tanakorn seat, I want to upgrade the controllers to a better vesc based one have you ever tried swapping parts from the good brands onto the cheap scooters?
Yeah I put a ubox in a yume y10. Would I do it again? no, because the frame and batteries on those scooters are very low quality. Will it work? Yes of course if you wire it up correctly and program it. But is it really worth all the hours of learning and labor? No, for most people it's cheaper and easier to just sell the old scooter and buy a new one. That's what I usually recommend people do. If you are really interested in modding your scooter, I do have a couple videos about it if you search ubox on my channel, it was about 3 years ago probably when I did that and then rode the scooter straight up a mountain in Wyoming! But it's really a pain in the ass and unless you are into electronics and soldering I would just save up and buy a more capable scooter.
@@ScootaGang I got my Nami Klima from Wyrd at your recommendation! Great customer service and great deal. Got it with pmt e fires free of charge and scooter itself $400 off AND they didn't charge me the tax! $2000 even for an amazing scooter with great tires and everything already set up beautifully. Tysm for recommending them, they were great!
I tried to buy an RX7 on a zoom call with them in the spring. Long story short, they don't want me to let me review it. I'm sure if I placed an order they would cancel it, same as they did to Kizi ewheels. I could make a whole video with all the chat screenshots I have with them, but it would be a waste of my time to make a negative review. Instead I just deleted all roadrunner content from my channel and make more content on good scooters, like the ones mentioned in this video. If I can't honestly say I would buy the scooter myself, why would I ever promote it in a video like this? Every scooter in this video, even those with low scores, is amazing and I would recommend it to anyone.
Haven't heard of that brand yet, it looks decent on the spec sheet, I do think Mukuta is a really good choice for anyone in Aussie too, might be a hair cheaper and bit better quality! Mukuta is a US and Australia exclusive line from Vsett!
Give me moped tires with full on motorcycle brakes and I’ll be happy. While the RS is probably top of the market for this I feel like there’s still a ton of room for improvement as a whole. For anyone who doesn’t know, this perspective is from a larger dude who rides hard (my 11+ is in this video) so I’m probably going through pads twice as fast as your average person in this comment section.
I think I’d ultimately like to see Kawasaki or Yamaha get some skin in this game.. having actual motorcycle manufacturers making stand-on electric units would be the reason I’d sell my Harley 100%.
Yeah I sent them this video last night. They are going to promote it further to get more views! If you don't have any experience with these scooters why are you skeptical? I've ridden them all extensively and the mileage is listed at the end...
Maybe, but it still is the best with all the options it has and the range it gets. No other scooter has the option for raising and lowering your scooter based on where you're riding. I wouldn't mind having one. 😂 I really want the Eahora Tiger King. Good middle ground.
@@JacMoves I like that the RS has those levels but the lowest seems to be bad due to scraping around corners so easily so it doesn't make sense to be at the lowest. That and it seems cumbersome to change out of those settings but I don't have one to know. Just seen other reviewers talk about that part.
Maintenance Scores: Kaabo Wolfs - 9 Vsett 11+ - 5 Inmotion RS - 9 Gspace Mars GTR - 9 The vsett are the only scooter with a much lower score because the brakes pads and rotors have to be changed excessively. Also changing the tire is harder to get the motor wire disconnected compared to all the other tire changes which are pretty easy and straightforward.
Only rode the Namis for one weekend so don't have enough miles to make this type of comparison. But the Blast suspenion is amazing and 72v version of that scooter will be the next Nami I'm actually interested to buy! Wish they would update their electronics though and make a nice app for their line up, they really need it to compete with Inmotion now
please guys stop those Ai traductions, it's horrible, unlistenable and it's feels not natural at all. For me the video launched in french and i swear it's horrible.
I'm not even sure how you are getting a french version? Is it a setting on your end or mine? I know youtube started doing automatic dubbing into other languages maybe you can turn it off in your settings?
@ScootaGang i tried but there's no options for this in yt settings, at 5 seconds of video, i already wanted to leave bruh. thanks we can still desactivate it on the player.
Love it! Thank you for your praise on the RS scooter. We will keep making better scooters in the future!
Thank you! Can't wait to ride them all! :)
@@INMOTIONSCV can't wait to try your inmotion EUC!! It'll be my first EUC just waiting on the mother board from alien rides before they deliver it 😎
I am making a good quality review on your scooter , I will published it on December 14 😊
@@cocoabiscuits be safe
@paulpaul3068 bought some more protective gear for it plus some Clark pads for the unit. I'm willing to bet it's more fun than scooting once I get used to it.
I have the RS lite and it ticks all the boxes I want in an escooter. It's low to the ground, very agile, looks great, $1000 cheaper than it's big bro that only goes about 8mph faster, easy to fold and transport, feels very safe and stable and is ready to go out out-of-box.
Completely agree, anyone who gets it for the Black friday deal too is gettting an absolute steal! $2500 is crazy good deal for this scooter!
Just got the Black Friday deal on the rs lite! Any recommendations for upgrading the handlebars? Advice for offseason storage? It will arrive in a week but won’t get used until spring. Thanks!
Thanks for this review the inmotion RS is the exact one I wanted this just made me even more confidence. 😎👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
It's the best riding scooter I've tested so far!
I recently purchased the RS and I totally love it. I have never really rode any other scooter for comparison but feel totally comfortable and confident on the Inmotion RS.
1200 miles on my Inmotion RS with thumb throttle, no problems. I love this scooter.
Good to hear it! Lot of people are getting the miles on this scooter this year! We ended up with about 4k on the RS and 1500 on the Lite! Prob bleed the brakes over the winter but they are ready to rip next season for sure!
Do you have any extra scooters that you don’t mind giving up?
Thank you for your excellent review. I too have a Inmotion RS Lite and I couldn't agree more. It's the only high speed scooter I've ever ridden that I can almost relax at high speeds. And it's nimble like a much smaller scooter. Keep up the great work!!
Thank you really appreciate the kind words! It becomes pretty obvious once you own the RS just how well it rides, glad you came to the same conclusion. My hope next year is we can get a more powerful controller from Inmotion so we can upgrade our scooters and get even more acceleration!
Goodness. this makes me so, so happy and greatly confirms my decision to go with the InMotion RS Lite right before Black Friday. I pulled the trigger from Voro, used a code and received an additional $100 off to make the price $2399. With tax and the interest (from Affirm pay), I walked away at $2700 "out the door" or rather, shipped to me.
I've only gotten to ride it a time or two (it's freezing in SW Ohio), but, I can already tell it's fantastic. The build quality, everything... buttery smooth acceleration, phenomenal braking, and just sit-back-and-smoke-a-cigar riding... Nothing is lacking. Eventually, I'll upgrade to the full RS battery for longer range, but, I am so pleased with the power, stability, braking, and acceleration. Highly recommended... also, I have two NIU KQi 300X models for my kids... I highly recommend them as well. I think they're like the commuter tier of what InMotion is to the hyper tier.
Yeah dude you made a killer choice! I also agree the Niu's are really good entry level scooters! I reviewed that 300x earlier this year too it's a rocket ship! If I do a similar comparison for entry level scooters I'm sure that would be at the top of my list too! I can't wait until warmer weather too this last couple weeks have been brutally cold barely ridden at all over here! Enjoy the scooters and ride safe!
14:38 my yume x11 has the same problem, how do I clean them? Remove and clean with water? Was water sprayed while riding the scooter, maybe it will damage the scooter? Or send it to service? Or buy new ones? Also the sound squiqi. Pleas help me!😢
Great review 👍
Appreciate it!
This nice to see and good info. I'd like to know what's in your second round pick. Cuz I'd wondering where the gotrax gx3 ranks
I should make a similar video for the superscooter playlist and beginner scooters playlist just to compare everything. I don't have nearly as much miles on those but we could still compare the ride quality the same way!
@ScootaGang ok cool sounds good can't wait to see those videos
people talk about the rear linkage, when the front suspension set up is fantastic. Nami and Gspace have the best comfortability when riding from my own personal experience.
I have a DUaltron thunder3 and I love it so far. a few hundred miles atm
I asked Dualtron/Teverun to send us a scooter to compare with everything else and they declined :)
I like them all so much on the market I just picked up my roadster and it's lovely all I did to it was put grip tape on the deck nice video
I like the polish finger throttle. For me it is night and day better because of overall hand grip. I think for anyone trying to break a throttle it will break. Finger rests nicely with no force needed for me to worry about breaking. The set up is important too but i never liked thumb throttle. Unstable for my use. I liken it to a kid on a bmx bike and trying to deal with a thumb while keeping your whole hand secure around the handlebar. Not good at high speeds. Personal preference. Awesome on the Nami 100% 💪
The spring feels really nice but I wish the plastic wasn't so fragile feeling. I hope they can make a version two out of aluminum it would be really nice!
Have the “polish throttle” as well.
Yes, plastic is suboptimal, yet how I’ve installed it (due to form factor) reduces risk of damage and failure.
I dont know bro, Im weak for the Industrial look of Nami Burn e Max… or all Namis:) Stealth, Torque, and simply amazing:)
Great review, RS is the clear King. Very interested in the 72v Nami Blast-Max, I hope you get to review that scooter soon, it's been my favorite since it came out. A shame so few people seem to know about it or how good it is. Everyone just went for a Burn-E2 and basically ignored it. IMO, the Nami Blast was the better scooter to ride, all along.
Yeah the Blast Max is pretty sick, I did ride it briefly at the end of last season. It's super fun and stable. I'll try to get one in to review soon! I agree completely it's an upgrade from the Burn-E!
@@ScootaGang Very much looking forward to that reveal and list of changes/improvements. It's never really needed more torque or range. Saw you and Jordan riding it last year, looked like a blast mate! Cheers, love the channel. Jordan's rides are also pretty cool.
What's your thoughts on the RoadRunner RS5 MAX? I was looking at an InMotion RS and RoadRunner RX7 because I want top-quality, BUT I want something that adapts to trail riding (minor-offroad) as well as roads. I don't see myself going 70+ and passing cars on the highway. So for 30# weight savings, and still able to achieve 45-50, that would be perfect for my road/trail adventures. So...do you have any opinions on the RoadRunner RS5 MAX (or something comparable for road/trail ability)??? Love the channel and information!
I rode the RS5 max for about 600 miles this summer, I had a full review for it earlier this year. The scooter itself is alright, but I ran into too many issues with the brand itself that I didn't want to promote them anymore. The scooters are decent but you can get very similar scooters from Kukirin, Ausom, Kugoo, they are all share many of the same components and design for a better deal.
Love my inmotion RS. I've put over 4,000 km on my scooter this summer... Only small issues
Same love ours too! You almost have as much miles as me, makes me smile to hear it! Same here, nothing major to complain about, had far more issues with my gt pro here it's a complete lemon after only 300 miles. Hope the Gspace is as reliabe as the RS, planning to put the same miles on that thing next year to see! Thanks for stopping by, appreciate your comment! let me know how if you run into any major issues at all, planning to talk more about build quality in further videos, but ours have been very good so far!
@@ScootaGangonly issue I've had was the bad mud guards that will crack if not protected with rubber.
I've had to replace my shocks under warranty as the first Gen stock ones were absolutely garbage. I've also upgraded my shocks to nami burn e ones.
The stock CST tires are garbage in my honest opinion. Mine had very bad imbalance issues. After PMTs there is no going back.
Had my front motor go on me. Front bearings in the motor. They sent me a new one and I'll repair this one.
Had to replace the rear swing arm bearing also in the rear.
Not expensive stuff just maintenance.
Also installed 1/8 rubber strips on top of the battery to stop the banging from that.
Brian, can we just buy the in motion throttle and have it work properly, or does the controller have something to do with it
No the throttle mapping is based on both the throttle and the controller and how they are programmed to work together. The inmotion app has a throttle mapping feature so you can add new throttles and smooth them out, but none of these other scooters have that feature so you are stuck with how it is when you hook it up.
Hey Man! Would recommend riding these scooters in cold weather ? Not snow and rain but if it’s cold out side ? Would really appreciate your feedback!
Yeah I ride all temps as long as the pavement is dry! Def recommend heated gloves and heated vest but it's still awesome down to like 20 degrees F or so is my cutoff
@ thanks! Appreciate the advice.
@ Would you recommend gspace over teewing for the Mars 11 xtr ?
I would love to see this comparison between Mars 11 GTR and Wolf King GTR
Classic TH-cam music library banger 👌
Hello..like your content and watch you frequently
I've seen a bunch of"best-of" videos but why don't these manufacturers offer wireless rearview somehow? Seems it would be a viable option over mirrors..I live in the Northeast of U.S.A. and I have nice bar-end mirrors...but started looking into camera /screen combo for glancing down and seeing what the "f" is behind me.
We have country traffic here on somewhat small roads. The mirrors add width and work "alright"...be nice to glance down at a 4"-ish screen mounted off the handlebar and immediately see rearview. Manufacturers could offer it as a $100 upgrade or something...It just seems odd they don't think about what's approaching from behind....
Just throwing that out there...
Rock on!!
I agree more scooters should come with a mirror. I never used one even until the Vsett 11+ super72 which comes with a left hand mirror. It was pretty useless to me at speed I still check over my shoulder every lane change. It was good for looking behind you while at a stop light to check for cops etc, but when moving fast it was not too useful.
Tons of people put a rearview camera mod on their scooter, you can install one like you say for $100 and have it constantly showing whats behind you and even recording it like a dash cam. If you only have one scooter you plan to ride for years, I think it's a good upgrade. But I can't really put that on every scooter I ride so it's not realistic to me.
Thinking towards the future, I already asked Inmotion to develop a proper HUD that can attach to our helmet and display things like the speed and etc. Maybe we can just incorporate a camera into that when it comes out in the future. Personally I think it's better to move away from looking at the screen itself and find a way to move the screen to your helmet visor. It would really make riding seemless and much safer to check your dash at high speeds.
I have the super 72 & its a keeper..😊🔥🚀
Yeah bro I rode that scooter all last season about 2500 miles! I agree it's awesome, it just needs better brakes!
You can modify throttles to reduce or eliminate the dead zone. Just open it up and superglue shims where it rests
Not sure how you would do that with the deadzone in the middle of the throttle? Think some just need better programming imo
@@ScootaGang I've seen video where the RS was gradually accelerated in approximately 2 mph steps up to 50 mph (twist throttle). It was a linear throttle from 0 to 50 mph (on a stand) so perhaps the mid-throttle 'dead' zone is due to accruing wear, as it's the range most used?
I’m 6”3 270 lbs I live in a some what hilly area , what scooter would you recommend for under 2,000 ?
Can you save up a bit more money? I think it's worth it to get 11 inch tubeless tires like all the scooters in this video. They are just way better then any 10 inch scooter in that 2k price range.
@ what would you recommend for that price point then ? I’m looking for dual motor to commute with slight off Roading
The over 2k price point that is lol
Have you done a nami shock conversion for RS
No and I never will. I sheared off a Nami shock in a wreck last year, it snapped in half. Not even a hard impact just a slide out at like 30 mph. I don't think those shocks are very robust, and they are also too soft for me. They are just very different design, Nami suspension rides like a cadillac aka very soft and cushiony over bumps like for a grandma, whereas Inmotion suspension rides like a formula 1 car, fully connected to the road with a super stiff suspension. Sure they are interchangeable, but in my opinion I'd be taking my racing scooter and turning it into a touring scooter. If you prefer that then go for it, but I will never do that to mine. I really enjoy the racing feel of the RS suspension. I'd be curious to see how much the scooter boats forward and backward on heavy acceleration/braking for those that have made the swap, I bet it would boat more with the Nami shocks then the RS shocks.
I'm pretty much done upgrading my RS for now. I'm hoping they will release a new controller next year that we can install to push more amps, but other then that the scooter rides so perfect for me I will only be doing maintenance. Brake bleed is next on the list, they lasted a lot of miles but finally getting soft enough to need fresh oil!
@@ScootaGang im going to give the KKE a try. if I don't like it ill move to FZ. i had good luck with it on my burne2max
@@vemgm Later Burn E models are equipped with KKE components.
Damn no love for Nami’s
I've never owned one. Tested them all out but only for a few days so can't really compare them to this extent!
I hear you, man. I don't think Nami pairs up with many TH-camrs so you don't get much of the bias as we see with other companies. I love mine it's like the vrod of hyper scooters. Excellent 👍
Nami isn't high end.
@@Spankmepinkyou smoking rocks!😂
@@Spankmepink the heck it isn't. It received best race scooter and the suspension is best of all the other scooters in its class. It's the most slept on scooter is more like it. It's amazing
Inmotion i think is the best and fastest E scooter . I changed my mind about other scooter after trying it for the first time.
Yeah, it's a special design of scooter imo! You will enjoy it bro! If the cops are on to you, time to switch scooters and helmet LOL
What do you mean by "Vsetts do not allow e-braking at all until it's down to half battery"? Are you implying that if ebraking at full charge or over 70%+ will fry your controller? Was that the reason? Cause that happen to mine lol
What I mean is when you ride the scooter, it will not e brake at all until it's down to about 72v. So from 84v down to 72v you are braking 100% with the disc brakes only. All these other scooters e brake immediately so it is consistent the whole time you are riding.
It's almost a surprise on the Vsett when the ebrake finally kicks in after 15 miles of riding and you feel it for the first time. It was surely a safety feature they programmed in, but it's just a poorly implemented idea because you simply don't get to use any ebrake for the majority of your ride!
My next one will almost certainly be a Teverun.
Yeah we met them in person at their booth at CES last year, the scooters look very nice, but they didn't want to send us a scooter, so not too sure how I feel about them now.
@ScootaGang I hear nobody gets a test model. They think they're Ferrari, I guess.
@ in reality they are just a dualtron with another logo on it. They literally shared the same booth as dualtron at CES. Personally if I really wanted to go that route I would prob just get the dualtron X limited it prob rides the best of all of those from what I hear.
But I won’t be investing money to test brands anymore, there’s no reason they get plenty of exposure from my channel it’s worth it for them to send it, if it’s a great scooter. I have a $2500 paper weight right now with this wolf king gt pro I have to get my money back out of somehow
What’s your experience with roadrunner scooters?
Tried to get the RX7 and it didn't work out. Not sure how it would stack up to these but I think it's too tall for me personally, the deck to handlebar height is about 4-5 inches taller then the Inmotion and Gspace so it would not be very comfortable for me to ride so I can't buy it.
I was so confused when I heard Scarlett Fire. It’s in my scooter ride playlist lol
Yeah I love that song, one of the best free artists on youtube creator music!
800+ miles on my Dualtron X limited. Finger throttles are the best in my opinion. But seeing some of ur scooters, the angles of throttles and brakes are bad. I tilt mine abit more so you cqn grab the brakes easier.
What brakes does that scooter have? If I was ever to buy a dualtron to test it would be the X limited!
@@ScootaGang The brakes are solid, the only problem i have is the mud guards are too low so its hard to jump steps.
I find it weird that everyone I see that use electric scooters use no helmet, are they just built diff? I'm way more scared doing 28mph on a scooter than 3 times on a motorcycle
Na we wear helmets and gear every ride and you should too if you are planning to buy one of these scooters! People wearing no helmet simply haven't wrecked yet and don't realize how much it hurts
For me it's no mirrors. As fast as they can go why not have a quick reference to check your rear?
Absolutely agree. I've literally said the same thing to people regarding the motorcycle comparison.
fun fact, the "polish finger throttle", the sideways throttle on the Inmotion and the Kaabo and Nami are all actually Wuxing throttles, just like the thumb throttle you don't like
ebikestuff.eu/en/throttles/227-trigger-throttle-black-right-nami.html
It's manufactured by a polish company where are you seeing wuxing?
@BH4x0r I must be a pollock I like the finger Throttle 👉
@Dennis-p2l i'm not a big fan of trigger throttles, but in the case of having a trigger it needs to be a good normal style one for me
Great video, I’ve bn obsessing over the GSpace suspension so great to see u compare the models. Would like to see a steering comparison video with single v double stems, stem angles 📐Thin vs wider decks , lighter vs heavier, Off Road vs Street tires , speed wobbles & dampers .
I have a 90lb , 9” deck single stem with exa 291r suspension & street tires & a 120lb , 11.4” deck single stem with KKE suspension & Full Off-Road tires. I find the steering on the lighter scooter completely different & way easier compared to the heavier scooter. I agree the heavier scooters are definitely less practical for riding Off-Road . 🛴💨
It's a great suspension I think it makes the old wolf warriors obsolete once and for all. I think the steering generally feels the same between single and dual stem, it's more so when you pull forward and backward on the handlebars it feels much stiffer and more solid.
The stem angle does matter, and that's kind of why I think the RS is better for shorter people. Becuase when you have the bars lowered as far as possible the handlebars are at a comfortable distance from your body. But as you get taller, you have to slide the bars up, but also in and closer to your body. So a very tall person will have less space between their body and the handlebars. I do think they could help a bit buy moving the suspension up one notch to gain some more height overall, but they will still have a bit less space then shorter people like me.
Deck just has to be thick enough to hold your feet comfortably, if it's too wide it will be annoying when you step down at stop lights. But the only scooter I've ever had that was too wide was the songzo bt1, everything else is fine to ride. The splach thunder 10 is one of the smallest and I do wish it was a little bigger, but it's a commuter scooter meant to be small.
Heavier is always better on the road!
I mainly ride street tires, pmt, unless it's an offroad scooter like my gotrax gx3!
Having a damper is better then not having one. The inmotions have built in dampers you can tighten really easily. They work great! Gspace just released a new damper bracket you can add, but does require drilling a couple holes in the frame! I rarely get any speed wobbles at all though, I really think that is from poor stance and weight management.
I'm convinced that the suspension system of the MARS GTR is the best! Especially for off-road riding, it has excellent passability! And from what I can see, no matter what others say, MARS always has the highest overall cost-performance ratio! The reason I don't like RS is because their promotion is confusing; they have a smaller battery but claim to have a longer driving range. As for steering, I don't think it's necessary; I'm not sure if it will affect the overall riding experience. And you know what, MARS will make you look cooler!
Immotion RS, Nami Burn e2max or wold king gtr or gt pro?
Inmotion for me. My gt pro is a complete lemon didn't even last 300 miles can't really recommend Kaabo. Nami are a solid second, but I haven't ridden them enough miles to compare them to this extent.
I have an off brand tifgallop, laotie, style scooter (60v dual 2800w motors) with the tanakorn seat, I want to upgrade the controllers to a better vesc based one have you ever tried swapping parts from the good brands onto the cheap scooters?
Yeah I put a ubox in a yume y10. Would I do it again? no, because the frame and batteries on those scooters are very low quality. Will it work? Yes of course if you wire it up correctly and program it. But is it really worth all the hours of learning and labor? No, for most people it's cheaper and easier to just sell the old scooter and buy a new one. That's what I usually recommend people do.
If you are really interested in modding your scooter, I do have a couple videos about it if you search ubox on my channel, it was about 3 years ago probably when I did that and then rode the scooter straight up a mountain in Wyoming! But it's really a pain in the ass and unless you are into electronics and soldering I would just save up and buy a more capable scooter.
@ good points.
I love my mars gtr with the finger throttle,,,,first version 😂
How flush is it with the brake lever?
Do you have a link for the new Nami Blast 72v?
Na, far as I know it's not in stock at Wyrd Ryds yet, and that's the only place I'm willing to order it from
@@ScootaGang Galen is amazing. I wish they had more inventory otherwise id drop another few grand there. Still waiting
@@ScootaGang I got my Nami Klima from Wyrd at your recommendation! Great customer service and great deal. Got it with pmt e fires free of charge and scooter itself $400 off AND they didn't charge me the tax! $2000 even for an amazing scooter with great tires and everything already set up beautifully. Tysm for recommending them, they were great!
@@ScootaGangI preordered it from Wyrd Ryds a couple days ago and can’t wait
So no Roadrunner RX7 yet?
I fee a biased opinion toward Inmotion lol
I tried to buy an RX7 on a zoom call with them in the spring. Long story short, they don't want me to let me review it. I'm sure if I placed an order they would cancel it, same as they did to Kizi ewheels. I could make a whole video with all the chat screenshots I have with them, but it would be a waste of my time to make a negative review. Instead I just deleted all roadrunner content from my channel and make more content on good scooters, like the ones mentioned in this video. If I can't honestly say I would buy the scooter myself, why would I ever promote it in a video like this? Every scooter in this video, even those with low scores, is amazing and I would recommend it to anyone.
Jordan’s scooter is missing a LHR bottom mudguard bolt. Lol.
LOL Yeah we had her gremlin bell hanging there and the screw came out somewhere on the road so it's lost now!
Where's weped?
I've only tried the GT50e and it was awful. Do you own a weped?
Just dropped 3k AUD on a Carbon Nitro Pro v2, hoping its good
Haven't heard of that brand yet, it looks decent on the spec sheet, I do think Mukuta is a really good choice for anyone in Aussie too, might be a hair cheaper and bit better quality! Mukuta is a US and Australia exclusive line from Vsett!
Give me moped tires with full on motorcycle brakes and I’ll be happy. While the RS is probably top of the market for this I feel like there’s still a ton of room for improvement as a whole. For anyone who doesn’t know, this perspective is from a larger dude who rides hard (my 11+ is in this video) so I’m probably going through pads twice as fast as your average person in this comment section.
I think I’d ultimately like to see Kawasaki or Yamaha get some skin in this game.. having actual motorcycle manufacturers making stand-on electric units would be the reason I’d sell my Harley 100%.
I really like the Vsett 10÷
You would love the 11+ and super72 then it's the best Vsett by far!
DIRT: 10/10
sounds like a biased review towards inmotion the fact that inmotion uploaded your video before you did, sus
Yeah I sent them this video last night. They are going to promote it further to get more views! If you don't have any experience with these scooters why are you skeptical? I've ridden them all extensively and the mileage is listed at the end...
While I agree thats a little funny and smart to even catch, I have an Inmotion RS, and nothing untrue has been said here.
Maybe, but it still is the best with all the options it has and the range it gets. No other scooter has the option for raising and lowering your scooter based on where you're riding. I wouldn't mind having one. 😂 I really want the Eahora Tiger King. Good middle ground.
@@JacMoves I like that the RS has those levels but the lowest seems to be bad due to scraping around corners so easily so it doesn't make sense to be at the lowest. That and it seems cumbersome to change out of those settings but I don't have one to know. Just seen other reviewers talk about that part.
@@cocoabiscuits so maybe the lowest is not for that scenario, now, think about, race, tracks, no curbs?
Best off road scooter?
Gotrax GX3
Nice
Thanks Teddy!
Shud of done maintaince score...tyres changes etc...
Maintenance Scores:
Kaabo Wolfs - 9
Vsett 11+ - 5
Inmotion RS - 9
Gspace Mars GTR - 9
The vsett are the only scooter with a much lower score because the brakes pads and rotors have to be changed excessively. Also changing the tire is harder to get the motor wire disconnected compared to all the other tire changes which are pretty easy and straightforward.
Putting a face to the voice...
Yep 😂😂
nami burn e 2 max?????
Nami burn?
Only rode the Namis for one weekend so don't have enough miles to make this type of comparison. But the Blast suspenion is amazing and 72v version of that scooter will be the next Nami I'm actually interested to buy! Wish they would update their electronics though and make a nice app for their line up, they really need it to compete with Inmotion now
@@ScootaGang i think Nami burn is better of inmotion rs in m'y opinion
please guys stop those Ai traductions, it's horrible, unlistenable and it's feels not natural at all. For me the video launched in french and i swear it's horrible.
I'm not even sure how you are getting a french version? Is it a setting on your end or mine? I know youtube started doing automatic dubbing into other languages maybe you can turn it off in your settings?
@ScootaGang i tried but there's no options for this in yt settings, at 5 seconds of video, i already wanted to leave bruh. thanks we can still desactivate it on the player.
How does the nami scooters compare with scores
I only rode the Namis for one weekend, so I can't really compare them with these scooters that we have thousands of miles on.