The Mageseeker is GREAT... but...
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my biggest flaw is that you cant fully skip cutscenes when you have to repeat a fight. fast forwarding text is fine but not being able to skip a scene really made some bossfights a slugfest especially on hard mode
I feel you on this one, i hate having to watch the same thing over and over again.
and when you fast foward by mistake you should be able to scroll up and see the text before
This turned the Morgana fight for me into the most annoying thing ever, I was more tired from skipping the text and cutscenes than from repeating the fight
UGHHH, yessss, that was a NIGHTMARE...
Yeah, that part was a bit annoying. Until you learn a bit about the enemy attack and how it will go, I had to stay in those cutscenes quite a long time than I would want to.
I like how the magic stealing incentivizes you to leave weaker enemies alive, having to dodge more attacks in exchange for more DPS.
The lore form in the farm, that mentions the scarecrow calling out to a man in his dead friends voices gave me chills. I thought it was leading up to a fiddles fight in yopps side mission, but it was moganaturn
i was so sad aswell
I mean, of all the demons in demacia mentioned, only Nocturne wasn’t covered.
Evelynn prefers populated areas so an isolated forest is a bit out of her usual hunting grounds.
And Fiddlesticks is out in the hinterlands, on the further outskirts of controlled territory whereas most of the events of the game take place in or near the center of power in the country.
Also Fiddlesticks is bonkers powerful in comparison to Nocturne, having him show up only to get jobbered by a lore-wise middle-tier champ would not make sense.
It’s made pretty clear that Morgana wasn’t trying that hard and could have ended the fight whenever she wished, Sylas despite his great personal growth isn’t strong enough to take on one of the Ten if he’s at half an Aspect’s mercy.
I would really like a video of Necrit going into the lore of the pages you find in the game and the lore entries for the different enemies.
Seconding this. A video/miniseries on the notes and Easter eggs, in the flavor of Necrit's Runeterra videos, would be amazing.
I think the Mageseekers coming in elemental pairs isn't quite as dumb of them as you'd imagine. It allows them to always have something that's effective against whatever target they are going after. If someone's resistant against fire, they can't be resistant against ice, meaning a team of just fire mageseekers can't really do much against a fire mage, so bringing an ice mageseeker is useful for them.
Of course, considering Sylus can steal magic, it's excellent for us to have fun with, but Sylus' ability to steal magic is extremely rare, and it's kinda the reason he was so harshly locked up by the mageseekers in the first place. It's waaaaay too useful of a skill for them NOT to get on their side, so they imprison rather than just kill him. Only, now that he's escaped, it's really biting them in the butt now.
I just hope it doesn't become an excuse to not give shyv a visual update
As for voice acting it would have made sense to make it optional so both sides could be satisfied.
Ever since they took her off the vgu poll i wondered what they were going to do with her
@@FlutterSwag I don’t think they have ever taken her off the vgu poll? She has always been second place.
She's already getting one in the next few years… a whole VGU, not just a VU too 🧐.
@@louisrobitaille5810 excellent
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Its heavily implied that the power of kayle on wysteria comes from a feather of kayle, sylas says "what did they do to you" when she first transforms, ryan power is upgraded by morgana feather and the morgana feather sylas gets that empowers him was obtained in the labs and is implyed that they were experimenting with it, plus on top of all this, hesbeth gives her something that "helps her manage her powers" on the past and it just happens to glow yellow
I think it would be easier to understand it if wisteria power pre-hesbeth had another colors, but it does work around fire,not related at kayle at all, so, that, is almost said out loud that the power comes from a kayle feather.
My biggest complaint was that space, button used for dashing, is also responisble for skipping cutscenes. Almost everybody i watched playing The Mageseeker atleast once skipped some dialogue
So damn true, it gets really annoying
11:17 to the story part on people who don’t know, I actually think it’s nice to have games that are for the already established fans and not for newcomers completely. There’s so many games for a first time experience and they’re cool but having a company make games that expands an already established story for fans feels like it’s paying back homage to the fans. It’s been like 10+ years people who barely ply the game know league exists. I think it’s fine to have a game that is for the fans that already are there
That would be fine if the game offered any information on how you could learn the rest of the story. It's like being handed the 2nd book in Lord of the Rings thinking it's the first book. You'd be very confused and the game would likely seem unfinished with many hanging plots.
If there were literally any game that could be used as an entry point I'd agree with you.
@@DoctorOaks you quite literally just explained the point I was saying. It’s a game for already established fans who know about the story. Which means we as the fans know already the characters and the universe and what the stakes are plus there were comic books released in hype for the game.
@@eli2210 Sure, that's nice and all, but potentially ending core story arcs of Demacia in a game plenty of people who know nothing about it likely to play as your first game for that region is kind of... bad planning I guess?
Like sure it's nice for people like us familiar with all the lore, but it's a bad impression for anyone playing it because they're interested in League. Like I said, I just think they should've made an introductory game at some point rather than a conclusionary one.
@@DoctorOaks That isn’t what he’s saying tho, he’s saying it’s nice to have games that are for the fans that know the story. Even Tyler knows what’s happening in democratic just by watching the cinematic, no need to read up on all the lore. I think a game like this which expand the lore instead of just giving us lore that we already know of, is great, and I think even people who don’t know League could play this game and understand the plot and what’s happening. Mages captured, Sylas rebellion, boom, fight. It’s simple, but to us fans who know the lore behind all that and around it, is very complex and exciting.
I wouldn't call it a game for the lore fans. I mean, the game literally retconned Demacia's past with the Morgana flashbacks. Why is nobody talking about that?!
If there were really a lot of people who are a fan of the lore this would have already started a debate, but I think people just didn't notice it. Maybe they didn't notice it because they don't read the lore? :D
I loved the game and the lore, but WHAT HAPPENED TO XIN ZHAO?! Looks like he was just excluded from lore.
To be fair Xin Zhao also wasn’t there to protect the king in a critical situation in general so honestly he feels like just someone that was forgotten about when writing these stories
@@colossaldonut5190 yea but this part us explained. He was the most trusted man for Jarvan 3 and was sent with thus decree to stop mage hunt to Mageseekers HQ. Then we have the short story where he was going to kill himself but was stopped by Jarvan 4 and now he serves him the same way as his father. So unless he was again send out somewhere they just forgot him:(
@@silvercitytube While it leaves a plot hole, the devs picked and chose which champions fit best with what story they were telling. Shyvana already fit the bodyguard role and was much more connected to the plot. Characters like Tiana were missing too so you kinda just have to assume they were around doing other stuff.
@@HydraneousHadokenPent-Striker Well I guess I go with it like he and Tiana Crownguard went to the eastern border to check the Noxus forces activity and so misses all the fun.
For that price i have to compare it with Hades and it just doesnt hold next to it, still a lot of decent stuff about the game, music is good, gameplay is good
And for games below that price (10 dollars below, to be exact), it contends with Cross Code, which is honestly a much deeper and more compelling game. But as for something already really good and tied to the League universe, Mageseeker is definitely worth it.
@@jinfra- $30??? Here I thought this is a free mini game.
@@jinfra- same
Yeah, 30 bucks for 15 hours of gameplay isn't right
Shit I got the cracked version for free 99, it’s a good game though ngl
Soldiers calling shyvanna jarvans pet was hilarious
when you go to Terbisia, seeing the camp and walking through it. I kept having the feeling it could be a DLC, playing through Lux's part of the story, or a sequel when you are rebuilding it.
Also, for the open endig and there not being a mageseeker 2, could be setting up the starting point for the MMO, and we'll get the follow-ups there? Could also just be wishfull thinking.
During my playthrough, I was hoping so much that there would be some kind of “end game”, where you could do like the mage seeker lab missions, but in something like endless mode, or something like this. What I enjoy most are the basic fights against huge crowds of enemies, but there is not that much of it.
Ok, I might not be the only one thinking this. But Mageseeker needs DLC Story Arcs. Maybe some missions in the Freljord, or some new NPC Character Missions, maybe some Sentinels of Light side quest? I'm just throwing ideas, but I like to think that this game can be huge on DLC (outside of cosmetics, of course)
Or maybe, since the game already has all animations, play as other champions and see the aftermath.
I was a little bit frustrated with no way to skip cutscenes. The autoreader didnt skip (animations) forward and it was more of a nuisance when I dashed to cutscene and it skipped like 4 first text bubbles I didnt catch till I could turn it off again. Otherwise it was fabulous game and I quite enjoyed it :D
I think the thing I love the most about the conclusion is that it wraps things up in a way that allows for a more healthy, and interesting, set up for mages in the upcoming MMO
you forgot about one of the most important parts. the side missions explain why there might be more Durand sculptures aside from Galio, like the ones in LOR. they have been very actively researching those, and have partially activated some of them and tried to build more, which were almost successful until Sylas destroyed them.
18:20 my favorite part of Rukko's design is the red skin on his hands and forearms. I assume this is from him pushing himself with his magic, which is a really cool detail about him.
His big brother also have those "burns". That could be from their magic or the work in the forge.
The one thing I hope the most from the game is that Sylas comes in the next LoR expansion with the mage rebellion as his card pack, maybe even have Morgana be in there aswell and have them combo together...
I WANT MORE CHAINS IN MY LOR AFTER THRESH GOT ROTATED OUT
a thing I appreciated was really how you sent people on missions and you could recruit more mages, it gave me some assassins creed brotherhood vibes where you would recruit more assassins, send them on contracts, grow your creed. pretty much the same here, recruit mages, grow your camp, send mages on missions, gave me some good AC Brotherhood vibes
Yo Necrit the mystery of if sylas killing the king was discovered with near the end of the game with Gideon. He tells you that the mageseekers knew that the king died by knives.
I mean is that satisfying? At all? If I'd not read the katarina comics - and thus know the lore - I would not like that
That doesn't solve the mystery. We already knew that Sylas didn't kill the king. All Gideon told us was that the Mageseekers knew that Sylas was telling the truth. It doesn't reveal who really did it, just explained why everyone ignored Sylas when he said he was innocent
I agree the game doesn’t solve the mystery, everyone knew sylas didn’t do it because of the lux comic and the outside stories. Katarina comic showed us she absolutely did it but i would love to know how it feels to experience the game without the context of everything else. I feel like how they handled who killed the king well in the game. It shows another level of how much the mageseekers have controlled things. I like the game just feel like the overall story is lacking because too many things were answered. The civil war is over, we know how the king died and see how the knowledge of Durand has been passed down. It also complicates demacia’s story in the ruined king further.
This all leads to a greater demacian and noxian war, which is good, but I wish the civil war lasted longer and had more development.
@@McRaptorRex Mageseeker writer just wasn't good enough for this kind of "hard to write" story. Demacia magic phobia and it "witch hunt" deserve a great story and gray moral, in right hand it could rival even Arcane.
Sadly Mageseeker story just drop it ball and shit all over place. Centuries of ideology being solved too fast and so easy, just by using Morgana "secret" as deus ex machina. There is NOT a single twist and turn, no high, no low, no build up, it fell flat.
@@McRaptorRex On the point of solving the Mystery of who killed the king it is not necessary due to the story being about the start of the mage rebelion and ultimatly how sylas ends up in the Freljord. Also the civil war is not over. Jarvan made a concession to Lux and her settlement but Sylas is still trying to take down the rest of the Demacia aristocracy and monarchy he is still a threat to the kingdom.
3:43 I hope I wasn't the only one that realised that chain grabbing cancels all endlag of attacks. Plus with some distance it gave i-frames.
7:57 I haven't played the game, but seeing that you can get a power-up to refill mana when you kill an enemy with that spell *on a healing spell* makes me think it could make for some absolutely bonkers combos. If it's anything like LoR's Path of Champions, I'm all for it.
Since Shyvana was shown to be flying back to Demacia and Jarvan at the end of the game, it is pretty heavily implied that they are back together.
This is pretty well done. I did end up giving the game a 7/10. The thing that lowered it that extra point for me I think is the accessibility as a stand alone game but also, Ruined King set the bar SO high in terms of fun and character interactions and an experience as a whole. Mageseeker is not at all a bad game but it does pale in comparison. I have high hopes for songs of nunu. OH also I agree with the demacian experimentation being SUPER interesting, it almost felt eldritch horror-esque and I wish they leaned into that a little more.
I think its kinda backwards how the deluxe edition has the lux comics but the only people who would probably buy it are the ones that dont need it in order to understand the game
Now warriors cinematic finally makes sense
24:20 "A promise made under knife's blade will fail" - Demacia and in big part Jarvan is still responsible for even more extensive list of atrocities than before this game came out (Human Experiments huh? Jarvan straight up orders Mageseekers for public executions??) and their list was already stacked with a few. If I was Sylas' place, Im sorry... this fight is nowhere near over as long as people in power who allowed Mageseekers to be so influencial and turned a blind eye or even supported them are still there. Sylas still has ALL the reasons to seek allies to fight Jarvan and crew...
Which is all well and good, but that really just boils down to a desire for revenge. He wants to kill them all for the bad stuff they were responsible for. A huge part of the storyline of the game is about Sylas learning to let go of that desire and focus on building a better world for mages. Why not negotiate? Why fight to reform Demacia at all, why not secede? The way the game ends, Sylas has every opportunity to get everything he wants without further struggle, the only reason to keep fighting is to satisfy his bloodlust, which the game does everything in its power to remove
Yeah I'm with Sylas the people in charge were still complacent with what was happening before, it just turns out they realized what massive hypocrites they were doesn't really cleanse them of the sins of taking part in what is a genocide. Intill the Lightshield and Crownguard families are no longer in power the fight continues.
@@nathanlane6668 I dont rly entirely aggre. I can completely see riot taking this kind of direction with the story but realitiscally... Influencial people in demacia are responsible for whats basically genocide and thats not something you can just 'Sorry' your way out of. Even if you exclude him from all mageseekers crimes he is still the one that commits to this civil war with burned letter from j3 and orders prisoners to be executed.
If we would take this world like 100% dead serious, I still think Sylas is entirely in the right to not trust Jarvans pinky promise one bit.
@@baxland2539 I mean, Morgana's story explicitly says that the Mageseekers were responsible for manipulating the narrative, not the government. As for J4, he didn't have any power until his father died literally the day the rebellion started, which is the same day Sylas dragged him to the steps of the palace and tried to force-feed him live rats and publicly decapitate him. Is it really so unbelievable that J4 would consider hostility against Sylas's rebellion justified? Especially when the game has a cutscene dedicated entirely to showing the Mageseekers discussing how J4 is young and grieving and easily manipulated into allowing them to operate unimpeded? Are we really going to advocate for the execution of a man for crimes that he either had no part in, or for which were justified against an enemy that had demonstrated extenstive and cruel hostility? Especially when the game even points out that he is being manipulated into acting this way, and the moment he realizes the truth starts to work on fixing his mistakes? Additionally, the game also makes sure to show to the player that J4 isn't changing because he is "making a promise at the edge of a knife" but because he is trying to make a Demacia where the people they love (Lux and Shyvana) can live freely. The game jumps through hoops to show that the Mageseekers were responsible for the entire conflict, including influencing the royals, and that Jarven and the Crownguards are genuinely trying to change the system going forward
Except that was Jarvan 3. The new king is Jarvan 4, and has barely had time to ascend the throne before a rebellion breaks out. You don't KNOW what he would have done, but given his girlfriend is a literal magical creature, odds are the mageseekers' tenure would have been short-lived regardless. The game, unfortunately, only gives you Sylas' PoV.
My favorite part was the part with Morgana and Kayle, and Morgana herself. Those two are among my favorite characters of the whole universe and I think they have such a great potential in the lore, but we still know rather little about them. Then with Morgana's reveals, just made me squeal.
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Like her saying that she can not leave her hideout yet, or her sister would follow. And Demacia is not ready for Kayle's justice. It shifts all what we kind of knew in lore about Kayle before. And I love it.
Kayle will smite the shite out of Demacia if she returns
@@khoinguyen5004 Yes and I love it. Before I always read her story as if she'd side with the mageseekers. But now it reads more like Morgana and Kayle simply had a disagreement between themselves and their heritage in regards to their mother and their powers. If Kayle comes to Demacia, it sounds like a reckoning is coming from their very own Winged Protector.
@@ifelia3360 Kayle sides with justice, has always been. Shes away because of the Darkin awakening.
YES SO SO GOOD I LOVE THEM
@@khoinguyen5004 the darking awakening hasn't happened yet, this would imply that myhira is already dead at the hands of Solaani.
I don't think Eldred had a wimpy death, especially compared to Hesbeth. Eldred's death fit his character really well, he knew that he wasn't the final boss so he didn't need a boss fight because his death didn't matter. His power laid in his manipulation of Demacia to hate mages, and Wisteria was that hatred manifest.
That's a fair assessment, but I think it's undercut by the fact that his successors in Wisteria and Hesbeth both miss that point entirely and instead go even more extreme then they already were.
Neither of Hesbeth or Wisteria made Demacia hate the mages further. In fact, their insanity was the biggest boon for the rebellion, not a danger to it. If Demacia's commonfolk weren't in a state of despair at Wisteria's extreme measures, Morgana's deux-ex-machina lore reveal wouldn't have hit nearly as hard. In fact, I find it very plausible that in an alternate world where Eldred survived, Morgana wouldn't have been able to do anything. Eldred wouldn't call for more executions, he'd instead point at the recent second capital siege and say something to the effect of "Look how murderous these so-called rebels are! Don't believe their lies; they're exactly the monsters we've been saying they are." And Demacia would have little reason to doubt them. Wisteria's counter to Sylas' vision-spread - that it's just mage propaganda - would actually have weight instead of being a pitiful, insecure attempt to salvage an unwinnable situation.
IMO, Eldred should've been the final boss, but not in a physical way. His power of manipulation, making Demacians hate and distrust mages, should've been the final enemy for Sylas and his rebels to confront. It would've made more sense for the story of a revolution AND, in my view, made Sylas' character arc more concrete, rather than the odd ending we got.
Instead of just going around killing people and organising raids against the Mageseekers' patrols, Sylas (if not in the main story, then at least in the side missions he and his subordinates attend) could've instead worked to derail the Mageseekers' message. Send fire mages to northern provinces to help freezing towns keep warm; send nature mages to places with low harvests and help them increase farm yields; use magic to protect average citizens from Demacia's dangerous wildlife. These could've shown how the mages worked to dismantle not just the Mageseekers as an organization, but their ideological hold on Demacia. Of course, where the Mageseekers tried to capture his fellows, he and Leilani could've worked to protect them. Not on the assault, but on the defense, yet with enough of a fight that the Mageseekers get antsy. As public opinion shifts and more mages come out of hiding - not for violence but to help their fellow Demacian - the Mageseekers slowly pull the trigger on their more extreme tendencies. Wisteria grows more frantic, Hesbeth gets more authority, all under Eldred's supervision. Eventually, the final execution mandate can be called in, with an extra clause that puts mage sympathisers on the chopping block just as much as the mages themselves.
This would culminate in the final battle where Sylas convinces the Demacian people - from the peasantry to noble-born soldiers like Garen to even (likely) King Jarvan himself - that it's the Mageseekers that are in the wrong. Convinced in the righteousness of his cause, they pave the way for him to confront Eldred and his final defender, Wisteria. The final boss happens as usual, then its time for Sylas and Eldred to face each other. Like in canon, Eldred will be accepting of his death and offer no resistance, believing that with Sylas striking him down, Sylas proves himself the monster Eldred's been portraying him as.
Only, he then doesn't.
Sylas doesn't kill Eldred. Ironically, he instead captures him, perhaps throws him in the same cell he was captured in for good measure. But the point here is, despite having every reason to want to kill Eldred for revenge, Sylas doesn't, instead focusing on the mission Leilani inspired him to take: to do justice and work not for vengeance, but for the dream of a better Demacia. This then gives Jarvan the chance to do more redemption than just writing a paper; he hosts a trial that finds Eldred and his order guilty of all charges, then issues his reforms. Perhaps he kills Eldred and (if he's still alive) Hesbeth for good measure, and attempts diplomacy with Sylas, despite him believing he's still to blame for his father's death.
Either way, the story arcs here, IMO, would flow better. Sylas gets a more concrete shift from vengeful radical to heroic revolutionary. The Demacians more organically grow accepting of mages, and thus, people like Garen and Jarvan don't have to force themselves to hypocrisy anymore. Further, Jarvan wouldn't look as much like a spinless idiot simp, but instead like a flawed but well-intentioned monarch; he'd grow from a vengeful pawn of the Mageseekers using his crown to get his way to the genuine king of Demacia, serving his people accordingly despite his own wants. And who knows, in becoming that he might actually grow worthy of Shyvana's love.
Sry for the essay but mentally raving about this stuff since I finished the game
@@e.v4892 oh god
@@e.v4892Don’t be sorry dude, that would have been such a big improvement to the story.
dude i love the fact that i haven't finsh th e game yet and i can listen to you talkin about it. I will see the full video after i'll finish it. GG as usual my man
no Hate for NECRIT here... but... 10:36
just to clarify. :)
pretty sure someone stated that the game is a love letter for lore lovers so the story was made for them to love. If by any chance someone playing mageseeker has no idea about the story, this was planned to be their starting point.
for us: we read the story then played the game. but for the others: they will play the game THEN read the lore.
Finished it a few hours ago and was waiting for your video
My guess why Sylas still fights Demacia (Spoilers for the end of the game)? J4 and Garen didnt take any responsibility for what happened in Demacia while still hunting him for his crimes as I understand it. They call him a murderer, they didnt drop charges for murdering the king as far as we know and they act like they were just victims of Demacia while being in the most powerful positions. I also dont think that they have any remorse for what they were part of maybe Garen a bit but they mostly just wanted to fix a relationship they valued and thats why they swaped sides. Sylas shouldnt have all of those insights of their personalities so maybe its as simple as them being unwilling to drop charges against him and his followers.
I think Sylas says something along the lines of not being able to trust them not to renege on their word becuase they conceded power under threat.
He’s too cynical to believe that they could be genuine and that tearing out the entrenched aristocracy of Demacia is the only way to ensure that any change will stick, at minimum remove those who were in power so they cannot revert their changes.
11:17 Yeah I'm really glad I watched your primer for the game before going into it. It was really helpful to know about Morgana & Kayle, and that Jarvan and Shyvana were an item. I would have been a little confused about Shyvana if I hadn't watched your primer first
Ahhhhh I'm so glad you got to play this. I got to playtest the game, so its just so exciting to see everyone getting to enjoy the game and the lore!!
i just felt like combat got way easier once i realized you could just do chain grab combo + run away and just rinse and repeat against EVERY enemy/boss
dude remember how sylas steals westerias power and then they clash, sylases attacks have chains that represent morgana and westerias attack is radient that represent kayle? then sylas consumes westeria? maybe its a teaser for something in the future?
I truly like the mage rebellion in demarcia, since it was making some stability in whole universe. Like Ryze was able to hide the world runes in petricide forest, Sona's story and Quin's story was becoming interesting and The war with Noxus and Winter's claw. But wait a sec, where was Xinchao in whole game..??
With such an amazing VO in League it really stung having Sylas be almost completely silent, especially for that price point! It just kinda made me want to play Sylas in League instead.. Also I know not everyone has a controller, but unless it's an FPS or an RTS, it's probably good to assume playing any game on controller will be more comfortable lol
Plz do a story recap of the game. I'm not interested in playing or watching a playthrough but still want to stay up to date with the lore.
The only thing i am asking now is what is fiddlesticks gonna do now like the mage rebellion bringed a plate of fear to citizens of demacia and now its over where is he gonna go now, free other 9 demons, return to slumber?
wanna know *why* the music is so good? it's made by gareth coker👌
love to see they keep him on riot forge projects, his work on the ruined king game is just legendary!
At first, even on the controller was a bit weird, but after you figured out the combination and played for a few minutes, it was really easy. On the controller, the grab was much easier since you didn't have to target the all the time the enemy and just hit the R1 button when you were close to one or R1 and the joystick, not really targeting. I encountered a few bugs when I had to begin the mission again cause I was either stuck into a wall for using abilities or not able to move for some reason and only could grab the enemy. Another thing that I don't know if it was a bug or I should have done something and I didn't do, was when I wanted to go back to read some lore after I picked it up from the floor. I pressed all the buttons but it still wouldn't let me see the full letter. Besides those things, the game really brings joy and seeing the little reference to more champions that we encounter. the story was really good and it really expand the lore forward in my opinion.
5:00 on the controller it's easy to auto lock on the closest enemy, but if you have too enemies near each other, the game chooses for you and you basically can't change between them.
The game is fun but also pretty short, which is fine by me really but for some reason a lot of cutscenes just didn’t exist properly for me, watching others play it there’s a few that just didn’t work for some reason leaving me to piece some things together. It also leaves some things unexplained for some reason and a lot of the laws on how petricite works is not entirely explained.
Somewhat major but not plot related spoilers ahead.
The fight against the secret boss in the forest’s side quests was incredibly disappointing. Repeat boss fights in general was a major disappointment to me (seriously, the helmet golem was only fun the first time)
What suprised me the Most (positively)t is Just *how* much this Game dared to Push Demacia's Story forward.
I loved the note sent to katas father by yhe black rosw to leave her die after she killed the king
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Personally, I felt that a big reason for Sylas wanting to abolish the monarchy in Demacia at the end of the game was because the monarchy were in charge of Demacia since its founding and the mage seekers were able to come into power despite it. He lost Leilani and Killan. Is he just supposed to forgive J4 because he's changed his mind? Sylas and the rest of the mages are the victims of the situation and to Sylas, the Lightshields were the perpetrators. He may have developed the same mentality as Swain that no one person should be in charge of a nation. There's probably going to be another story linking this game and the Warriors cinematic to show off Lux and Sylas's differing allegiences.
Besides, I doubt everything is solved just because J4 abolished the mage seekers, years of prejudice and segregation doesn't just end that easily. Sylas may just be playing the bad guy so that the mages and the Demacian military would properly come together and fight him off.
"I will be the monster they think I am."
Thats just like eren jaeger type sht and its cool
NO, just no. Mageseeker writer created plot holes with bad writing, that it. Sylas want J4 head for revenge? Than wtf was the point of Leilani death? What with him reflect himself in the 2nd meeting with Morgana? So what is the purpose of Sylas?
The game try to use "check point" as a proof of Demacian workship Morgana, to later introduce "the secret" as deus ex machina, something something magic out of nowhere that Sylas can use as wide scale broadcast, sooo convenient to solve centuries of ideology, and somehow all Demacian just ate it up like a true "pious sheep".
Writer introduced religious into Demacia with half baked explain, perhaps this story just too big for a short game to cover, but than later other writers will have to retcon a lot.
I would agree... if Riot didnt actively try to portray every single Demacian as good hearted and having nothing against magic. First in LoR, now this game solidified it, NO ONE that wasn't a mageseeker had any prejudice against magic that wasn't born from a lie. No Demacian actually has for some time now. Specially with the Vision from Morgana, now every single one of them knows they were right in not being against it.
But ofc, that's more a consequence of Riot transforming what was an actual interesting story about social and cultural struggle with prejudice into a simple ''the bad guys tricked us!'' story. Riot is not actually smart enough to talk about the consequences of years of prejudice and segregation unfortunely.
i found a refrence to the MOONLIGHTER game . not surprised about it tho bcz its the same dev . the MC of moonlighter was in the hideout selling stuff the same way he does in the og game
I keyed left click to aim, right click to attack, middle scroll to heavy attack - less awkward, fast aiming, although with this configuration I can grapple to people with the aim click only, which means I kept getting dragged halfway across the room when I only meant to steal a spell ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I haven't played the game yet, but, is the game focused on Sylas' POV? If so then I think it would make sense to not flesh out entirely some infos that are outside of his knowledge. But, Idk if he's aware of Kata's involvement.
@Necrit Will you do a full video about the story of magesseker for those who still won't play it (despite your amazing sales speech to insite us to play it 😄)? Pretty please?😇
Hello Necrit. (SPOILER WARNING) I have a little something for you. At 11:45 you say that players don't learn how the king dies, but that's not quite true. Im not too sure as to when in the game this happens, but you DO find out how the king died. When you talk with Gideon at some point in the game, (i'm sure it was pretty late into it), he tells you that the mageseekers didn't actually believe that Sylas killed the king, and he also tells Sylas that the king was killed with a dagger and they just made Sylas the scapegoat to make the people of demacia hate him. I Don't know wheher or not that influences your opinion on the game for those who do not know the comic, but yeah. Just wanted to let you know :)
Even several documents in the gameplay scenario explain or give clue who killed J3. A death by dagger not by magic. Document found in game also relate to Fiddlestick and his breathen Nocturne hunting for poor victims + mageseekers through out Demacia. Even Death - Kindred was added to the document found in the game
To be fair against anyone but sylas. The mageseekers pairing up with their opposite element is a good idea, to cover their weaknesses
"I'm really a weird person" was honestly my favorite. Made me smile every time you said it because I too have odd desires for chaos...especially when running TTRPG's
Hmmm... ofc I know about the lore, so I can't really talk for the people who don't, but I think there's enough information in the game. Even if you don't know the lore, you get to see what Demacia is like with all of its horrors from the perspective if the abused mages, from the perspective of Sylas (who just escaped imprisonment after 15 years). You are playing as Sylas, you are building the rebellion, so you definitely are getting information from their perspective that is relevant to it.
Also, I think Sylas feeling different makes perfect sense cause.... well character growth. Leilani's death and the responsibility for all the people did affect him a lot. In reality it all would take quite a bit of time (compared to the 15 hours of the gameplay).
And no shit he doesn't trust the monarchy . Jarvan is dripping with hypocrisy.
The controller controls were really good
wait string music? SONA!
I think the nature element is a stand in for earth, and earth is commonly recognised as the opposite of air
OK but there is no evidence for that in the game
@@dominicguye8058 well a rock and stone related element could conflict with the petricite substance so its understandable if they wanted to differentiate the two
This was the first game I played and liked that actually had some sort of disruptive glitches. After the Warden of the Forest boss fight, the dialogue boxes glitched out and I missed some text, and Sylas' portrait stayed on screen even after the dialogue box disappeared. I had to restart the whole game for this, and sometimes the game wouldn't start.
you can animation cancel as long as you don't press the key for the last attack in the combo
I ll definitely wait for a sale
Controller aiming was holding the right stick to the direction then pressing R1, it was hrd at first but you'll eventually be used to it.
I was disappointed that it was Nocturne not Fiddlesticks, considering there's a note that references Fids voicelines
If you are wondering about the gaps on the story just remember how retcon happy rito is.
Yes ,surely that game paved a way for the demacia mage class in MMO..
Funny thought while looking at the sprites: Garen's wearing plain clothing, the only armor he has are his oversized pauldrons. Just picture that while looking at his sprite.
When you pick Air and Nature on Elementalist Lux, you get Dark, so they oppose each other. Air and Earth also traditionally oppose each other in traditional element systems.
Yeah, Controls were very annoying at first. I fixed it by assigning the "Aim" button to one of the buttons on the side of the mouse (and the cast on Shift), works like a charm. Though aiming at a particular enemy was still problematic at times.
imo the combat has one small flaw which is you can spam Space (Dash) + Heavy Attack indefinitely to deal decent damage while dodging and fill up your mana bar (this gets more broken when you have the Mystic Shield ability so you are basically invincible in most cases)
The game was great l loved it, thank you necrit for showing it to me l wouldnt have known it existed otherwise, but yeah l feel like ot was kinda too short and at one time it was just wisteria for the 4th time lmao
Hoping that they fix the cut scene problems it's ok in the first run but on the second and so on players should have a skip button the horror when i've played in king slayer and watched morgana do her cutscenes like x minutes total repeatedly is insane
Wind being the opposite of nature makes a ton of sense actually.
I should know, every time a windstorm blows through, another tree branch hits my roof
21:02 well since you don't clean your office maybe you just left it there since your magnum opus
By the way, the chain locking is way better on controller, you just have to use the right analog to aim, press R1/RB to dash to the enemy or L2/LT to copy their abilities
Will you do a review of the lore of the game for the people who won t play it and are instterested ?
We need a summary of Mageseeker lore for someone who never played that game
Well for the music, Its Gareth Coker who worked on Ori I and II. So yeah it's a blast
You actually get to know who kills J3 in the notes on the ground
Warriors cinematic themed on a wintery scene. Might be Freljord? Some questions in the future perhaps. Because ending of this game made me so empty about whole lore. At the end today, we dont know yet what is really canon what is not after Riot's recent lore changes. Song of Nunu, Arcane ok lore. Convergence is obviously not but Mageseeker i suppose so dunno.
Honestly, i get it. Even if monarchy wasn't a problem, Jarvin proved that he was willing to scale up mageseeker operations because of his grief and to accept a full execution degree because he was fearful of the rebellion. Sylas can't let a man like that rule. Also, Lux has proven herself willing to defend her brother over herself, her wants, and initially, mages in general, so it makes sense for her to fight sylas even if they both understand each other.
Sylas' tragic flaw is he can't forgive, Its actually a big part of the story especially in relation to Morgana. Essentially Sylas has flipped his goals, Freeing the Mages to Toppling the Monarchy, You understand WHY he wants to do it but its clear its more to do with sylas' own hangups then anything Jarvan is doing. Hell the only reason a certain character dies is Sylas is single minded in revenge.
On Demacia, Lets be Real the Whole Mage oppressor aspect of Demacia was done in Riots little fit of making everyone the Protagonist/Antagonist of the story with no clear "villain" unless you were a Drakin, or a Void monster. Riots' basically given up on that aspect and lets be honest Its kinda annoying to have a bunch of characters you're told are decent people but ignore the blatant injustice. Mageseeker is essential just putting Demacia back on track as the main bulwark against Noxus.
Its probably the same reason they are retconning Hextech to not be powered by Scorpions Souls, Too many characters use the stuff willy nilly to have this deeply morally abhorrent aspect to it.
fair point.
still at the end, Jarvan hint that a few demacian noble houses may still support the mage seeker, it could spark a real civil war.
He literally overcomes that and learns that he has to inspire people after Leilani's death.
That's literally why Morgana refuses to give him his blessing at first, and then gives it to him, after that point in the story.
Forgive? Why would he forgive a regime who wrongly put him in a prison for over a decade , forced him to eat rats to survive? As far as I am concerned Sylas is doing the Gods work. I hope the Civil War comes.
@@geraltbiaywilk1788 and yet he will come back to attack with the winter claw.
while jarvan is giving lmages a good place to live
what happened in between ?
@@PablitaOrtega77 “A promise given under the knife will fail.” That’s what Sylas says at the end of the game - he is of a mind that the monarchy only agreed to the changes because Sylas basically put his boot to their throats.
Which is at least somewhat true.
He’s also just of a mind that monarchy, as a concept, is evil and oppressive.
Fiora's absence gives off the idea shes neutral to the plights of Demacia especially since she has never been a woman about law but rather honor. Atleast that my interpratation.
I think its fair who liked the king is never mentioned because i don't think sylas knows either
I theorize the warriors cinematic still playing out is because like you said sylas left too early and is unaware, garen at the end of the game said they’ll have to fight sylas again when he returns and now that sylas aims to topple the monarchy that would likely include Lux as well, either because she’s a noble or because the crownguard’s duties calls for it, it still leaves questions tho so feel free to add or critique anything
Also based on how the cinematic played out, I don't think Sylas knew Lux was there. But Lux seeing Sylas try to kill her brother is of course going to defend him.
@@HydraneousHadokenPent-Striker I agree, she was disguised the entire time until she picked up her staff and called in Galio, the reason Lux and Sylas were friends in the first place was their mutual agreement that mages were wrongly incarcerated and tortured, but once that issue is resolved, everything else about them conflicts.
gareth coker is such a good composer
the voice acting part was on point! i got so disappointed and depressed when found out there was no voice acting! i wish they add voice acting with an update if it is possible
my game keeps glitching at the moment .
Accidentally pushing the dash button into a cutscene and immediately blazing through 4 textboxes before you knew wtf was the most annoying but I really enjoyed my time with this game.
🤣 He had to mention the Slug.
I remember the story for Elementalist Lux is that she became the queen of Demacia. Wonder if that will become lore...
I just finished the game and I am very sad too I played Mageseeker for the magical slug. 😭
*Inserts batman's "Where are they?!" scream*
I love this game. But I have 2 things to talk about:
1st the thing with the Mageseeker Colossus. I had also wished to fight some epic enemy.
2nd is the story with Nocturne. Honestly, I have been fearing to meet Fiddlesticks ever since the first Mission of this Questline. First all this stuff with fear and then the campfire with the two leftovers of soldiers that reminded me of Fiddlesticks' Cinematic for his rework....
can you make a video about kayle and morgana i like kayle so much and i wanna what you can find new about her in the game, since i can't buy it i would like to know cuz shes my main and her story is amazing
There are not much new info about Kayle in game, only some mentions about her as Winged Protector, and in short Morgana story(you can find it in youtube by Mageseeker cutscenes or something like this)
@@stasmen7752 nice thank you
Well nature is on the ground and air is in the sky?
I didn't realize you were wearing a green shirt until 3/4 of the way through.
will you make ur twitch playthroughs into youtube videos? i couldnt watch the streams sadly
Also.... youtube CC is fun. First part : "so a few days ago i finished the Mate Seeker" ....
21:02 I remember that reference.
(If you don't, you'll have to find out)