The Dirty War on Britain's NHS (Free Healthcare Scandal Documentary) | Real Stories
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- Britain's National Health Service, the NHS, was the world's first universal public health service. Designed to help millions of people, the NHS today is under threat of being sold off and converted to a free market model inspired by America's disastrous health insurance system.
John Pilger's new documentary, The Dirty War on the NHS, "goes to the heart of the struggle for democracy today", he says. Britain's National Health Service, the NHS, was the world's first universal public health service. Designed to give millions of people "freedom from fear", the NHS today is under threat of being sold off and converted to a free market model inspired by America's disastrous health insurance system, which results in the death every year of an estimated 45,000 people. Now President Trump says the NHS is "on the table" in any future trade deal with America. Filmed in Britain and the United States, this timely, compelling documentary touches us all and reveals what may be the last battle to preserve the most fundamental human right.
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Eye-opening. The people of this country need to educate themselves in regard to this corrupt and financially motivated destruction of our NHS. I strongly believe that people power can, and will have a strong say in protecting our NHS. Hopefully the damage being inflicted can be reversed. The love of money over humanity is the purest evil.
All because the people at the top can line their pockets. It’s NOT RIGHT.
sadly that is the system USUK have signed up to.
Welcome to vulture capitalism, the best system in the world.....for the wealthy class.
Getting worse under the tories unfortunately and change needs to happen. The country is in a mess.
@@tigading2177 won't be for long because they know they are in trouble with labour on the horizon. Total scum bags the tories. Nhs, crime on the rise, pot holes everywhere, companies being greedy, floods, water companies dumping human waste in the water, not enough infrastructure, the list goes on and on.
It's what people want, otherwise they wouldn't keep voting for the worst of the worst of political parties for running public services. People keep voting for a party that has a track record for privatisation.
@nicholasr39 privatisation doesn't work in healthcare. They do everything on the cheap and once its profit driven that's the care gone. They also spend more on beaurocrats. Watch Dr bob gill and you'll find out what's happening. Majority of the public in America live on the streets due to insurance.
I was horrified when my young son said that the NHS doesn't work and has to go!!!
The only decent thing the UK regime has ever done for its people is being ridiculed, sold off and destroyed! Lack of money is not the problem, greed is!!
This has brought me to tears - tears of shame that I believed in "New Labour", tears of anger that this is hidden from the public, tears of sadness for the future. Thank you for outing this outrage.
I didn't realise people didn't know about Labour's PFI. Did you know when Jeremy Hunt was health secretary, he was consulting Patricia Hewitt on how to deal with the NHS. Patricia Hewitt was Health secretary for Labour 2005 onwards. She's a business woman, she's motivated by money and she's been involved in a few scandals. So of course Labour is no innocent party when it comes to the NHS.
Excellent journalism !! People must be aware and fight against privatization of healthcare. That’s also what they’re trying to do in Canada. Mainstream media always criticizing the Canadian system as something that’s is not working or sustainable. But in reality that just need more family doctors and that can easy be fixed by paying them a betters salary and freeing them from expending too much time doing paperwork. Canadians are very proud of their health system. Tax money should be used to benefit its citizen. Not to finance war.
Agree wholeheartedly.
The big interests run the media, the big interests of the elite who will always favour a profit based system instead of one that looks after people in society.
It’s only natural that they should ridicule a free or public healthcare system. It’s such a blatant disregard for the health and wellbeing of a population.
The health of a nation after all, has benefits that go far beyond the initial treatment of a condition or illness. It massively impacts the happiness of its people, and their productivity because they’re healthy and fit. That nation’s net wellbeing if you will, gets better. A healthy population leads to a larger labour force, greater productivity and a much healthier economy.
Compare this to a society with a failing healthcare system like the NHS at the hands of government and privateers looking to make a quick buck, or a one with a private healthcare system, people are on average more miserable, stressed, anxious, tired etc, because they’re aware that the costs of affording healthcare are so great it will ruin them.
It’s that simple for me.
Healthcare is expensive, undoubtedly, but those high costs are justified and totally worth it if you recognise that’s going to go towards making people’s lives better.
It’s no utopian or radical, countries around the world have it enshrined in their rights or are committed to it by the knowledge of its benefits. The Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Ireland, France to a good degree, Canada as you mentioned, Germany to a good degree, all of these countries guarantee affordable healthcare to their citizens.
Compare that to the United States, where money and the elite talk more than the pleas and efforts of those who know that profiting off of people who die every year is inhumane.
They talk of freedom, and yet I would argue that that freedom should include freedom from fear of bankruptcy. Capitalism in its purest form does no good for the majority of people, and a ton of good for those who want to keep all the money.
@@JackMellor498 Well said !!! 👏👏👏
Yea Canada is bad , I know I just came back from there , I backed out of a hernia operation at shoodlice as i didn’t feel I was quite ready , i don’t it i ever will but anyway back to Canada , when I was there , i went downtown as u do, & went to the first Weed shop I could find , and yes , i got talking to the young man working behind the counter, & after breif conversation he confessed to me that he went for a Varicocelle operation, that the Canadian government doctors and new system pushed on him ; and now he has some plastic pipe leading to his heart that they won’t take out and he has like a whole new condition now related to this plastic tubing … i mean after speaking with him , i was even more sure that in my heart of hearts i know they trying merk us off deep down and they don’t give a crap about us, everything they have given us by default makes us sick , not even getting onto the devices in our hands , and all the emf etc … but yea i felt real soz for this dude who had his life basically ruined by this operation as i remember when I started getting mild varicocelle pain , and to be fair there not even that bad compared to other symptoms, basically just having a bit of a varicocelle is nothing compared to the new operations and techniques they are offering for free ; to help , it makes it much worse and now they tell the guy it’s all in his head and it’s not because of the operation it’s something else and that they can’t help him no more … seriously guys be carful don’t go in blind to these operations and scans and crap they offer as 99.9% of the time what they do actually makes things 100 times worse then they were before u had the procedure done!
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I agree that socialized healthcare should be protected. However, Canada spends less on its military as a percentage of GDP than it did 30 years ago… The two aren’t necessarily related, in this case.
So where are all those millions who like sheep who stood clapping on Thursday night's??? Why aren't they willing to fight ??
Because the media told them to, and so did the government, the same government that had crippled the NHS as the documentary discusses to the point where it was bound to struggle to cope in the event of a pandemic. The governments then have it easy, an easy excuse in asking their mouthpieces in the media to tell people to clap for them.
I highly recommend reading Critical by Dr Julia Grace Patterson for further information on the ins and outs of all this from the point of view of a clinician who worked in the NHS for the better part of a decade.
They’re virtue signalling hypocrites mate. They’re the same clowns who supported disgusting vaccine mandates and passports. The majority of the British public are brainwashed sheep who are no longer able to think for themselves. I warned people years ago what was coming after COVID. A cashless society and a fascist technocratic surveillance state.
Because they have no leadership. There is no party that is fighting for working class people. The British system of district voting is what you also see in the USA. The Conservative Party and Labour Party (both in favour of capitalism and austerity) control the British electoral system and get all media attention. You see the same in the USA with the Republicans and Democrats. Working class people need revolutionary leadership, but this is lacking due to the might of the capitalist system that controls politics, the media and what you see on television.
GREED!!! 🇺🇸 & now the 🇬🇧!!! Since the pandemic Everything has gotten even Worse!!!💯🇺🇸🇬🇧
Australia 🇦🇺 has crumpled. The health system is broken
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@@kathyfrancis9229 Sounds awful but I'm (selfishly) kinda happy to hear that. I'm studying to become a nurse and want to leave the sinking ship that is the UK, I'd love to move to Australia and help contribute to your healthcare system! Australia is putting up posters in the UK to poach our NHS staff and I hope I'll have the same opportunity by the time I'm qualified.
@@EnterTheSoundscape is it becaue salaries for nurses are much higher in Australia?
@@leejo5160 Yes, but not just that. The working conditions are far higher in Australia and offers a better work-life balance, so I would still move even if pay was identical. Another factor is that the trajectory of the UK looks extremely bleak, our country is falling apart and has done nothing but screw over my generation (Gen Z).
Also I just think Australia is a beautiful country with a great culture, and whenever I have kids I want them to have better opportunities than the UK.
My 3rd son was born at 28 weeks gestation. The NHS did everything to support him and for him to become a happy 5 year old today. My GP providers support me for years with fibromyalgia medications that give me quality of life. I am grateful everyday to all the specialist's, GP's and receptionists that helped us. The NHS is simply ACE.
The opening scene is in the US in Baltimore. There was just another four cases in Louisville, KY, a mentally hallucinating man and a three elderly women, all of whom had dementia. It’s disgraceful! The man’s mother was notified by the police after a passing motorist call 911. The man’s elderly mother who could not care for him had a heart attack and died in the police station.
I've been following Pilger's work for more than ten years and proudly contributed to this films crowdfund. He has inspired me to make my own independent documentaries. I have made two so far (available on my channel) and, having just finished the second, am gutted I lost the chance to email them to him as intended. His feedback would have been dearly cherished. I'm also preparing to upload my 2021 expose on US-UK complicity in Yemen, for which I interviewed authors David Wearing and Isa Blumi.
Thanks John for your inspiration. Rest in power.
Good luck with your endeavors.
I've subscribed to your channel and will watch your work when I have more time.
@WomanNextDoor Aww thanks!
A 10 minute heart echo, put off 3 months after initial diagnostic of 7 of a 10 congestive heart failure post Covid symptoms…The day it was to be administrated the technician was “sick” so they rescheduled two more months… 5 months waiting in wonder if he was getting better or needing med adjustments was charged $7,000; that is the problem with healthcare charging outrageous amounts… not justified cost
why not take a look at how better performing EU countries do it ??? why always go with US where we all know health care is all about how rich you are ?? why not look at Germany for example ? UK is a total mess and has been for too long
I was an American tourist in Germany who ended up in 2 different hospitals during different years. This was in 1980 s and 1990s. I didn't pay anything. I still can't believe how wonderful I was treated. In USA when you enter an emergency room the first question they ask you is " What kind of medical insurance do you have?". In Europe I was asked what the problem was and my name. I MATTERED in a foreign country. My Greek relatives moved to Germany decades ago. They always respect how they were treated. I understand now since the reunification of East and West their generosity isn't so prevalent but I know Mexican Americans TODAY in us military stationed in Germany who married German women and are THRIVING in Germany.
It's absolutely disgraceful that David Cameron said that he trusts the NHS what a joke he would be using Private health care 😢
I mean, when 98% of the country's population is dependent on the sector for one of their core fundamental living needs, what is the leader at the time of the nation supposed to say??
The smooth running and efficient operating of the NHS institution, was part of his campaign, running for office!
I'd rather he use private health care and free up the NHS care for someone who needs and appreciates it. People like that should use private health care as much as possible, they already take enough from the public purse. Why don't all these people who think the American system is great move there, what are they doing here? American health care system has many flaws, I think other European systems like the French and German systems is what people should be looking at.
No better in 🇨🇦 I’ve been waiting nearly 2.5 YEARS for a colonoscopy with a family history of colon cancer!
I would not trade our health care system to any private hospitals. Yes our system can be slow and lagging but trust me I have seen both aisles of the private and social health care system. I lived in US for a while, the monthly health insurance taken off from my wife paycheck was around $200, still if it a major surgery, you have to cover some expenses. One of her coworkers had to pay $2000 from her own pocket even she had insurance. They know how to bleed you dry.
My mom's open heart surgery was supposed to be done in Jan of last year, but it was re-scheduled 3 times and finally it happened last Wednesday at Ottawa Heart Institute. But i can see why the system is slow. The funding and staff shortage is the main culprit. I can first hand experience how hard these staffs are working just to keep the system going. one example today i experienced one receptionist working two floors taking calls., and scheduling visits for patient. I waited half an hour just for her to take my call so that she can open the door for me. Then i called the nurse who was taking care of my mom, who was kind enough to come down to open the door. I have huge respect for our health care providers. They are the real heros of our society. I am not even mad that I had to wait 1 year or wait half an hour for someone to open the door. I will wait for 1, or 2 years for surgery but not swap our system for US-style system.
If you see the symptoms of colon cancer, you should go to emergency at your nearest hospital. They will have to admit you no matter what. If it is just a general inquiry, it will take time. Also, I live in a city, so blood work, colonoscopy, eye check up, endoscopy do not take 2 years. Have you tried exploring different locations for colonoscopy?
Absolutely abhorrent. I wished everyone were aware of this crisis 😔
I agree but there is an abhorrent adiction to money. I asked a multi millionaire the other day why he scrimps and scrapes and uses people to make money he will never spend, he looked at me dumbfoundedly, no answer.
Most Americans go without healthcare due to how expensive if is and just can't afford it. Our government doesn't give us a damn thing 🤬🤬🤬
Enroll in December at healthcare.gov . The monthly cost is based on your income.
The Brits used to come across as very confident and proud people, but they seem to have been losing their confidence quite a bit in recent years.
NHS doctors, nurses & ambulance service are wonderful but years of corruption have brought NHS to it’s knees.
Depends on how many pints they’ve had.
Australia has both public and private which work well together. The more well off use the private and take the pressure off the public. Both are well run. The scare campaign does not have to eventuate. Public and private can co-exist.
They can absolutely co-exist and that works really well in many other countries. But that's something that needs to be carefully planned and regulated. Not secretly sold off...
Im sure australia has its health care system problems too. Often public care will struggle or fail if the private sector isnt regulated well.
@Roxy-Mara They have co-existed well in the UK until last few governments in the UK decided to run the NHS down. However, the private sector in the UK is very small, there's no private A&E's, the private health insurance we have isn't designed to replace the NHS and some private services still require a diagnosis from an NHS doctor. If they want people who have the money to use Private services and release the capacity to people who really need it, they really need to improve on that. Private health insurance also doesn't cover pre-existing health conditions and excludes a lot of illnesses and treatments. There is one place that doesn't have the NHS and that is Guernsey perhaps we should look at that system.
Exactly,but the indoctrinated UK population of the UK are conditioned to think that private is evil,,despite the NHS dire record of waste,scandals,and huge waiting lists. "It's not the fault of the NHS,it lack of money,staff etc" ,they bleat.
I believe that medicine is now a business for profit and I have grave concerns about how the pandemic and vaccine injuries might be profitting corporations.
Particularly in light of scientific opinion being stifled and the co-occurence of a digital ID and mass scanning becoming the norm.
This doc needs more eyes on it right now, the youth need to understand what's happening.
I have been dependent on the NHS for the last 4 years and after having previously been treated from 2003 to 2006 the change is enormous, Almost like the difference now between the NHS and private healthcare.
Catastrophic failure from NHS management, Government has destroyed our beloved NHS. The only way forward is to scrap the TV licence and replace it with the NHS charge or we lose it
You got that right? I Ve never understand why we pay for TV licence. And that would be a good way. I've said it for years. If everybody paid 200 pound a year or something, we could save the NHS. And make a payment plan For people who can't afford to pay it in One go And I said to my mum years ago when there was on about private Sector It would go to the Americans and she said no, it Won't too many people depend on it, and I said. Yeah, yeah, mum, We will see 😂
I have just realised we got the same surname😂
I'm not racist but get all rid of The foreigners Who are taking money from our country i've noticed all the immigrants are young man or middle aged between 20/30 Young men can look after themselves. I do understand women and children. Yes, I don't disagree with that. But if they want to come here, they should all work and pay to the NHS. But no, they get everything free. Have you seen what's been going on in the hotels lately, They are housing them all in hotels and we have her own People on the streets. I have met a few people over the past few years, and a few of them were in the military. This country is failing everybody.
@@nataliebennett8958 Great surnames think alike!!!! I have been saying EXACTLY THE SAME for the last 2 years
No an NHS charge would not be affordable for people that have little to no money like the homeless or the people who struggle to buy food and gas electricity this cost would also keep going up to god knows how much and the TV licence is optional you don't need to have a tv
Time is of the essence of everything, especially to save life.
Just look at all USA hospitals. Most are United health group owned. Even in Boston, Massachusetts home to to world’s finest hospitals now are horrendous. Lack of doctors and nursing ratios.
Whenever you hear the word "reform" coming from a politician, it's euphemism for "you being worse off".
Tax money is not going to basic services anymore the duopoly of the major parties and the massive conflict of interest is dangerous.
Tax money is to pay illegal migrants and give house benefit to muslim families.
I used to work in medical billing & coding for both sides, for the insurance company & on the patient side, so I know how to play the game!
Well said David Owen. Return to parliament!
Good morning England! Where is the Royal Guard please!? We don't need to wait Carlos III and etc resolve if they give up...
Bless the wonderful John Pilger. Rest In Peace.
That would never happen in Denmark . We have the worlds best health care system. For FREE. Maybe Winston was totally out of touch with the British people that had fought the war,and was still back in Blenheim, playing with his toysoldiers.
to add insult to injury, UK regime is now funding, supporting and training UkroNutzis...the ultimate betrayal of the British people, servicemen, women, veterans of ww2.
My father was from Denmark and my mother from Greece and I was born in California. I was in a state of shock when I visited my relatives ( Germany too) and they lived better than I did despite only a few having college degrees. I NEVER saw poverty in these countries but I have seen poverty in the South. I've had motorcycle accidents in Germany and Corfu and not only didn't pay ANYTHING but the KINDNESS I was given was unbelievable. I cut my hand washing dishes in California as a teenager (without medical insurance) and the bill was almost $400 in the 1980s. I was also impressed how handicapped, disabled and developmentally disabled people are treated in Denmark: DIGNITY and RESPECT. My brother is developmentally disabled. Here they just give you junk food ( most of the ingredients are banned in Europe) and medications that only hasten their death. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO BRAG ABOUT YOUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM! I am ashamed at how Americans repeatedly say we live in the greatest country in the world yet 40 percent of American women who are pregnant in rural towns do not have access to a doctor.
I am a capitalist but a socially aware capitalist. I strive to earn more money than I need and share out the excess to less fortunate friends of mine.
You may be shocked to hear that I was forced to live in a van after I lost everything when locked down. I still live in a van and at 66 I now get a pension and still help many people, most younger to get on in life and get a step up the ladder to a self sustained life.
O, People of The Great Britian, the storm is coming!. Please save your country before it's too late!
Me in US-we have the “non-profit” HMO (Health Maintenance Organization), next to the meager income of the CEO’s and others of a > $250k/yr , pittance salary right?
Of course you can’t give a raise to yourself on daily basis, so let’s get around the system by awarding ourselves “bonuses” of say $10 to 100 million dollars annually or even more and not limited to the CEO’s because $ made this fiscal year coz we cut costs vs last year significantly, naturally at the expense of participant who elected this HMO (all are practically equal). Again, HMO’s are non-profit” !
There has been a massive increase in private cardiac clinics everywhere almost as though a need was foreseen.
Private health insurance companies prominent in every shopping centre now opposite the banks usually - with the long queues.
Universal healthcare in both the UK and now Australia Post pandemic is following the worst healthcare system in the world -the USA where people can lose their house if they have a serious medical incident.
HANDS OF OUR NHS!!!!
As with nearly every nefarious entity, follow the money.
I've worked in the NHS and seen terrible waste BUT have met some of the most dedicated people I've ever encountered.
The corridor walkers, nurses, porters, doctors etc are generally not the ones who have wrecked the NHS, its politicians and their wealthy donors keen the grease the palms of whoever will grant them a lucrative contract.
Over the years various sections of society have been labeled a burden to the NHS, overweight, smokers, aging population, mental health, alcoholics yet the management heavy Trusts squander money on everything from huge art pieces to celebration of the latest culture fad, and of course PFIs littered throughout the NHS. Interest payments alone could easily manage two or three of the "burdens" mentioned above.
Politics is broken, and it's very nearly destroyed the NHS. We cannot allow that to happen.
East midlands ambulance is shocking I ve experienced staff that need retraining shocking wouldn't recommend !
I lost most of my savings for retirement paying for longterm care for my mother. Then I got fired from my job due to Covid and lost my retirement, my insurance, and all my stuff when illegally evicted. My mother passed and I’m bankrupt, technically homeless, staying illegally in a vacation cabin of my ex brother-in-law. I’m too old and disabled to find work. Believe me, I tried, am still trying, but nobody wants a 73 y.o. woman with mobility and visual issues. Living on social security is impossible, even just for food and medication. Medicare doctors are few and far between and it doesn’t provide for prescriptions, dental, eyeglasses, or hearing aids. I bought my walker and cane at Goodwill and make a sort of tooth gap filler of melted plastic. It makes it less obvious so long as I don’t smile too wide or try to bite with it. If it weren’t for the cabin and the charity of my church, I’d be homeless. As for dental, senior services supplies none. I’ve literally pulled my own teeth, which is another reason I can’t get work. Nobody hires a person with nasty looking teeth. I understand the lady from Appalachia. People can sue me all they want. If you don’t have the money, and you can’t find work, the lawyers and clients are out of luck. They don’t have any clinics like in Appalachia where I live.
I am ashamed and angry that you have to live like this. You would be living VERY well if you lived in a European country with the exception of Albania, Romania and a few Slavic countries. I know from my elderly relatives who lived in Scandinavian countries and Germany.
god bless you i hope things improve for you
Why were they conducting an interview right next to a homeless person trying to sleep? Like that person doesn't have enough to deal with without people waking them up from whatever sleep they can manage to get.
Never accept a private ambulance. I always call in my own.
This is nothing new, I had a miscarriage back in 1994 and I was sent to a Marie Stopes Clinic for a DNC because it was cheaper for the NHS to let them do it. It went horribly wrong and three and half months later I had a full hysterectomy at age 24.
I have no idea how to just get to see a GP, If I ring at 8am and sit on hold for 30-50 minutes only to get told there are no appointments left that day and you ask if can I book an appointment they try and give you a date three months away. I have been doing this for about a year. They do care why should I. The last time I called thinking I was having a heart attack and the ambulance at 11ish at night they made it to me at 8 am the next morning. If it was a heart attack I would have been dead by the time they got here. I have given up. I deal with day-to-day pain and just hope for the best at the point when it is really dangers I will collapse and then maybe someone will be there to get me help.
People are not getting better they have just stopped asking for help.
U.S. worse even. I have Medicaid but there are no providers who want to take low reimbursement. If I do manage to get to see a specialit, they pad the bill with a lot of unnecessary blood tests and xrays.
You must be disabled or age 65 or more to qualify for Medicaid with a low income.
if tax cutting obsesed politiciaan and their lobbyist still have heart and political will these grotesque things their trying to do can be undone
It has taken me 5 m to find ins & I don't know how long I will have it.
Worst entity known to man theNHS. Good luck in the high court. Thanks for lting about my daughters birth time. I wsnt you all 🤗
If healthcare is privatised in UK, will brits get better teeth?
The rich have good teeth, the poor will continue to have nasty teeth, just like Appalachia.
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What a ignorant comment about teeth
I was actually surprised by how prevalent private care is in countries like the UK and Mexico, two places I always thought had publicly funded healthcare. I have yet to meet a person with means who doesn't get private care. I actually thought that wouldn't be a thing there like it is here in the US. I was just talking to a friend from Mexico and she was talking about having gone to the dentist in Mexico City and I asked her about her experience with the public health system to see what she would say and she was like "god no. My dentist is private". Like how did this countries end up with such a prevalent private system?
Every said here is worthy of thoughtful investigation and change. However, the implication is that the NHS is so much better in comparison but I think a similar documentary could be made highlighting all the horrifying things that happen thru the NHS as compared to private care. Neither is a perfect solution
Britain's war on NHS but keeps switching to American things ?
Well more and more GP surgeries are owned by US healthcare companies. It’s shocking how Jeremy Corbyn got grief for warning us about this when he showed us those redacted documents regarding this. All the corporate media cared about was how he got hold of those documents, claiming that it was the Russians who helped him. Just ridiculous claims and it shows how pathetic the corporate media are regarding exposing the truth.
Cos unfortunately we Brit’s always have to do what the yanks do, so much for brexit and Britain first , it’s not changed an effing thing except for the worse
@@expatmooseExactly mate. We’ve been sold down the river and our opinions mean sod all. I wish the brainwashed masses would wake up and say bollocks to the whole lot of our politicians, as they’re not working in our best interests.
@cataniamommaitalia87That’s ok if you can afford it though, millions of people in the US and UK can’t.
The people at the end, can they share the sleeping bag, head to foot, keep each other warmer?
I'm puzzled how anyone can love a health care system that has such poor service and requires patients to wait for months ( sometimes years ) for all treatments except life threatening cases. And the alternative private health care is an outright rip-off. GBP200/= for an half hour consultation? No thanks.
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Hey give Aussie a go. The people are pretty much OK. Have a wonderful Christmas 🎄
Disgraceful
David Cameron greatest liar until Boris
Stopped as soon as I saw John Pilger was involved. Ther are no proposals to move to an American system. There are proposals to change the funding model whilst still making the NHS a "free at the point of use" service. In other words, some politicians want us to move more towards the common model used across Europe - you know, the ones the Remainers keep telling us absolutely better at everything than us *except* , apparently, the funding of their universal health care systems.
by the way, despite spending more than anyone else in the world on public health, the UK's NHS ranks well belowthe top 50% of health are systems in the developed and even the less developed world. Why is *that* then? It is not lack of money. It is lack of willignness to change.
Where do you get your figures from? You are deluded
@@countesscable Check the NHS outcomes against any international league of developed nations you like. We do not do well.
thats happening in the usa too
Now it makes total sense about new labour and Mr. starmer and his alliances with the conceratives . The GPs are already doing these things right under our noses .most only do a couple of days work in the surgeries for NHS patients. They spend the rest of the time elsewhere .
Not ok for nhs to reports us to pllhce cos of there Negligence of poor heaith care nhs has gone way control
I mean, I’m sure corruption and the rich lining their pockets is part of it. But we’re an aging society. We are discovering new complex diseases and implementing expensive new treatments. We’re living long lives. Health is expensive and our funding has not kept pace.
Cutting corners isn’t just about lining the pockets of the rich. But also about stretched budgets from what we as a society have voted we want to pay for health.
First fix him and than dropped
Please put subtitles It will be really useful Thanks
there's no holy land 🙏
Nhs faking the treatment
All NHS A KILLER
My wife has worked for 12 years as an emergency room nurse always doing night shifts if this sort of crap had been going on I am sure she woild have told me
Everyone knows what should be done, but YT won't allow me to post my opinion
Ask me please
When people live to an average age of 80 or 85 and most get diabetes from poor diet and overeating...there's no way these "free" healthcare systems can endure. They would eat up most of the GDP of an entire nation. Especially since people are having fewer and fewer children. Old people need the most care...how can a system work when there are fewer and fewer working people for every retiree needed the most care? How can you send the bill to the workers...when there are essentially no workers?
These programs were born in the golden age of the Post WW2 baby boom. A time when everything was set up to go right for the world. And people thought that that was the new "normal". They were incorrect. It was a aberration. Pain, suffering, lack, and uncertainty where health is concerned has been the norm for human civilization since its inception. We are actually RETURNING TO...the real normal.
There is no such thing as "Free" the NHS is only free at the point of use . We tax payers pay for the NHS. However the beaurocrates are getting wealthy on our backs. Mismanagement out right fraud ect.
#rosakiore 17:32
honestly thought this was Angela from the office on the thumbnail
The thing with free health care is that in theory it’s perfect but when put into practice…naturally there’s issues.
Both systems are untenable.
Well then, what's your solution? Home remedies? Death?
If hospitals became the place where you just house everyone who has a vague medical issue, whose resolution is completely based off of patient satisfaction, it wouldn't be able to take anymore patients after a day as they would immediately fill up every room with homeless people asking for ham sandwiches and dilaudid.
Your just a paid government agent , you are the think tanks and lobbies please cease to exist from TH-cam , something that should be a platform of truth and wisdom not proganda and lies !!!! !!!!
You are talking rubbish
@@gordonaliasme1104 if you think it is rubbish, why dont you house the homeless in Your place of work?
@@fdllicksHe doesn't have the finances to do such things. Good try trying to change the argument, though!
How can a a spaz like urself , watch that whole 1.5 hour documentary, that only started to scratch the surface of the web of lies and deceit and destruction; and then use fashict tactics , to try and make a joke of the situation and take away from the dept of what all those people have just watched , that’s a fashist technique. You just can’t rest , you can’t admit there is a problem there will always be another homeless joke and Han sand which joke or your talking rubbish statement but never any realness truth or actions in your words , just deflection tactics that was learnt from your senior advisers !!!
Older American here. I just couldn't not comment on this video. This video is an agenda driven piece of propaganda skewed to promote the UK's original NHS health care model. Without question the American health care system, like all complex health care systems throughout the world, have issues, but it's nothing like what is portrayed in this video. Don't take my word for it, look at some of the videos made by Brits who have lived or moved to the US from the UK & used the US health care system.
The producers of this video showed interviews & selected videos from a small, extremely poor, underserved, impoverished region of the country. I believe that many of the people shown were from a rural coal mining region. As in the UK, coal mining regions & mining practices, especially from 50+ years ago, weren't know for being environmentally friendly or the healthiest places to live or work. I believe the producers of this video intentionally portrayed these & other examples as the rule rather than the exception. I don't believe it is fair to portray the US health care system in such a poor light just because your governmental officials overseeing your NHS got scammed or failed to do their due diligence prior to or when entering into agreements with US based health care management companies. Isn't the UK incapable of putting together their own team of experts to address the core NHS issues?
FYI: We typically don't go around dumping patients on to the streets or pressuring nurses to kick people out of their hospital beds, as reported by the UK nurse in the video. Using completely inappropriate, illegal & atypical patient care practices, to push an agenda, to falsely represent the "typical" quality or availability of health care offered in the US, was intentional & knowingly deceitful. Would videos only showing the absolutely poorest & underserved regions of the UK or completely illegal or incompetent UK health care practices provide an audience with an accurate representation of the "typical" level or availability of health care provided by your NHS? I doubt either country does an outstanding job dealing with mental health issues.
The producers of this video made a number of misleading & false statements regarding the US health care system & the availability of health care services in the US. There are a wide variety of health care insurance plans & a wide variety of free state & federally funded health care programs & services available. I sincerely hope someone in the US, far more familiar with all the available programs, will add to this discussion.
Keep in mind the US is 40+ times the size of the UK & we have a wide range population densities. I think it is reasonable to assume that our issues are likely to be 40 times more obvious & covered far more frequently in the world news.
In the US we have a massive number of well regulated, high quality, privately owned / operated medical clinics spread throughout our communities. These clinics are typically owned / operated by physicians or physician assistants. They employ highly trained, qualified & regulated physicians, physician assistants & a wide variety of nurses, medical technicians & administrative staff. Virtually all have on-site X-Ray services & typically offer a wide variety of other services. These typically operate on a walk-in basis & have reasonably short waiting times. There are also a wide variety of independent specialists & therapists available, that don't require referrals from GP physicians, that accept walk-ins or schedule appointments for the next day. Some local medical clinics are owned & operated by nearby hospitals, particularly in under served & low income areas. When necessary, clinics can get you appointments with specialists or scheduled for advanced imaging or testing within a couple of days. We don't experience waiting times like those experienced in the UK. The video didn't say much about how many people in the UK die each year because they couldn't get timely diagnostic procedures or prompt treatment for their conditions?
The availability & quality of care offered in US hospitals is second to none. Like the person from the UK in the video, I too developed an acute painful gallbladder issue. I'm at best lower middle class & I don't live in a big US city. I went to the local hospital in the morning the day the symptoms first developed. I received a number of tests that day & underwent gallbladder surgery the next day. The surgery was performed by an experienced surgeon & surgical team, in an average American hospital.
A few years ago I also developed a painful foot condition that made walking progressively more difficult & painful. I called a nearby foot specialist, I was seen one the day later & began treatments that day. I've had a history of dental issues over the years. I can get an appointment with a wide variety of dental providers within just a few days, the same day, if needed to treat a dental emergency.
My wife had progressively worsening vision problems. She saw her eye doctor at a specialized vision center who determined she finally reached the point where she needed to have cataract surgery performed on both eyes. She had been putting this off for years, because she was afraid to have eye surgery. The first surgery, that required a special lens, was performed within about 10 days. The surgery on the other eye was performed about 3-4 weeks later. We were in & out of the outpatient eye surgical facility in under 4 hours for each surgery. Our health care system, like all health care systems, has some issues, but, in my opinion, the availability & quality of health care available here in the US is second to none & NOTHING LIKE what is portrayed in this video.
All too often I hear people from the UK rant about how the health care provided in the US is so expensive, unavailable to most & or not as good as that provided by the UK's NHS. I also continually hear how health care providers in the UK are under paid, overworked, understaffed & ill equipped. Now it seems that the UK is just discovering that they have, & have had for some time now, a large number of health care practitioners who have questionable credentials or substandard skills working the UK health care system. These aren't insignificant issues.
Health care providers in the US are typically paid far better than those in the UK. Health care providers & facilities in the US are required to meet & maintain very strict standards. The US has, per 1 million people, 4 to 5 times the number of CT & MRI scanners as compared to the UK. The US also has more hospital beds, per person, than the UK. Good health care providers & health care facilities, with modern working equipment, comes with a price tag.
I'm sorry but I don't understand how can the UK expect to build & sustain first class medical facilities, attract & retain home grown highly trained & dedicated health care providers when the system is chronically mismanaged, when you won't - or can't, provide your health care workers with an appropriate level of compensation for their level of education, level of expertise or job responsibilities? The people in the UK seem to want / expect free health care for everyone, like in the good old days, but they don't have the will or means to pay for it. I get the impression that the average person in the UK doesn't seem to recognize that the UK doesn't have an economy that can afford it or a population that is willing, perhaps even capable, to do what it takes to staff or manage it properly? Our system may not work for the UK but it seems that the current UK system clearly doesn't work for the UK either.
Based on what was presented in this & other videos on the NHS it appears that your government officials have made some poor management & program adoption decisions. They seem to have failed to properly manage, evaluate, regulate & monitor those providing health care in the UK & the health care systems / programs they have tried to implemented.
In the US we don't seriously believe that government run programs will be managed properly, will be cost effective, efficient, or sustainable. Maybe it's different in the UK, but from what I've seen on videos coming from the UK, I doubt it. It isn't 1950 anymore. The make-up of your population, your economy & your economic prospects aren't, & probably never will be, the same or able to sustain your 1950's NHS. Regrettably, the best either country can do is to do as much as we can for as many as we can. I think it 's just unrealistic to believe that any country can adequately address everyone's health care issues.
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The Lady in the burgundy top who says she works at a gas station knew that she wouldn't be able afford her health insurance before she got the job so what's she on about🤔..
She dont got skills for anything else and probably cant afford to get an education so she's screwed.
What? Do you suggest she doesn’t take a job until she can get a wage high enough to afford medical care? Ridiculous comment.
Grazie mille 🙏 e che dio benedica tutti sto bene dove Me trovo non Me interesa niente di esta messaggio
great. everyone on you tube was really worried. 😳
@@hackiehackerson 🤣
@@hackiehackersonnone more than me🤨
This is supposed to be about BRITISH NHS so why are americans involved in this ??? Mmmm.
Because this is what the liberals will slowly do in the UK . The NHS was founded by labour socialists , not progessive liberal .
Great that dosnt happen heir in the lucky country of au. 'God-Bless Australia were you dont even need to work as the government will fund your fun in the sun lol.
They have that system in England as well. So does the Dutch government and many more countries in Europe. Nothing special
Americans as well as a lot of other countries around the world already pay too much tax for little reward how much more tax will they have to pay to fund in national level service which is free at use?
They don’t have to pay more taxes. Money for healthcare and well being of people instead of trillions used for wars that just benefits the rich.
I’ve seen the USs version of socialized medicine (Medicare and Medicaid) and I’m not impressed in the slightest. It’s a “devil you know” situation for me.
Does the heart make decisions?
there's no holy land 🙏
There is no holy land it has been privatised to