Painting Factory Tour: How Computer & Vehicle Parts Are Painted | Automated Factory Tour
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- This semi-automated painting factory is used for high-quality PC component paint jobs, like those found on Digital Storm and Lian Li cases.
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In this factory tour, we're looking at a painting factory in northern Taiwan, used by some computer hardware manufacturers (Lian Li and Digital Storm included) for high-end paint jobs. Painting is the second-most expensive method of coating computer hardware in Taiwan, led only by anodization and followed by electroplating and electrodeposition. We'll learn more about those in upcoming tours on the channel, so be sure to subscribe for that and check our factory tour playlist. For this one, we look at some semi autonomous methods of painting PC hardware, including robotic arms that are pre-programmed to paint specific products. A lot of processes in painting are still human, but these factories are moving increasingly toward automation.
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Taiwan's safer than the states they have done a way better job of managing Wuhan covid-19
@@keptinkaos6384 Agreed, but we can't afford to stay overseas with no clear window of when we'd be able to return, and our opening was perfect since no one was traveling that day.
Welcome back, Guys. Pleased to see you completed the mission. Time to self isolate in style. Also, neat to think a bunch of very good factory workers there doted over my 011 Dynamic 😊
Glad you guys are back with out issue. Stuck aboard can be a real pain in the ass.
I honestly kinda wish you stayed.
in taiwan it's not gonna be too bad, meanwhile in us it's pretty bad and is only going to get worse
Only tech Jesus can make a video wherein he makes watching paint dry be interesting.
Finally an adequate hair dryer for Steve!
It will finally allow me to grow my hair out. To the floor.
@@GamersNexus How long does it usually take you and Patrick to dry your hair?
@@GamersNexus at that point your hair will need its own blue booties for dust control
@@GamersNexus Tech Jesus shall become Tech Rapunzel
Ssj3 tech jesus will become all powerful!
The 8H hardness is probably on the graphite grading scale for pencils. While not very hard, most ceramic coatings offered for automotive use to improve scratch resistance claim to achieve 9H hardness. So I guess 8H is pretty good in terms of paint hardness.
It does sound correct but also strangely it might be based on Mohs Scale and the Rockwell Scale. It's probably a simplified and butchered way to tell the hardness of rubbing against different materials.
It is most definitely not mohs scale since a coating with8h for plastics would be completely insane and seems very unrealistic
@@Piupiumacher I do understand what you saying but unrealistic could it be? If the coating is trying to emulate the same characteristics of ceramic coating?
My job is decorating metals and plastics with various coatings for multiple products. Things like speedometers (and other meters), microwave button panels,
ATV warning labels and heavy machinery window displays.
8H on Mohs scale for some purposes is hardly excessive.
@Doken Boken pretty sure it is similar to the metric used for graphite
These production videos are my favorite. Ty for the inside look
U have enough factory tours to start your own TV series of “How it’s Made” 😁
I was gonna say this 😀
All this dedusting makes my OCD happy
So many factory tours! Awesome!
Hardness they are referring to is pencil hardness scale common for coatings: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil#Grading_and_classification
With all these connection with factories, you guys could make your own brand cases when the time comes. And I'm sure a lot of us are waiting for that. :)
The G/N Snowflake Coolers & Cases 😸😸😸😸😸
@@SirReptitious let's be honest, a good portion of us would pay it-
More realistic would be for them to design and prototype the case, then sell the design to a manufacturer (isn't that how Der8auer works? I don't know for sure, but I think he does). Just imagine, ThermalTake could make a case they'd actually come by honestly.
@@M_Northstar Lmao
maybe i will exchange my 12y case then.... maybe!
12:59 "Sit and Bake" Thats my spot! lol
@SmokinGoodd ahahahaha 🌲
Love your coverage Steve 😍
The PCB coating is called "Conformal Coating"
Horrible stuff - I used to have to coat PCBs with it using a brush and use a black-light to check for complete coverage; the varnish glowed under UV light.
I always wondered why DIYPC cases couldn't match the paint between panels especially on there white cases , its very noticeable. It never bothered me until i watched this video! Awesome video i liked it!
The challenges with white paint are two-fold. The first problem is production - maintaining colour tolerances on something that effectively has no pigmentation is extremely hard as you have far fewer ways to correct for variations from the target colour during production, meaning your weighing/measuring and mixing processes have to remain super-accurately calibrated batch to batch. The second problem is application - while lighter colours are often used to hide blemishes on materials, pure-white paint (especially gloss) does exactly the opposite and picks out any roughness, moulding lines or other imperfections that disturb the uniformity of the light scattering off the surface. When applied to materials like plastics with a certain amount of variation in the way the surface texture turns out between batches of the base material, it becomes nigh-on impossible to get a white coating match between plastics and metals without extreme attention to detail at every step of the production process.
Thanks to all at GN for braving the elements to make this tour video. I'm a QC tech in metal stamping, and all of this outgeeks my love of/for PC's. Cheers.
Love these factory tours, they give great background to the products we buy. I'm repeatedly surprised at how much is done by hand and at the size of the factories involved - you envisage huge factory floors staffed only by robots, but this is almost a cottage industry.
I really love these factory videos its like watching how stuff works without watching how stuff works
Just wanted to say thanks for making this content. It's very informative and helps keep us sane in these bizarre times.
Hey, Thanks again everyone. I'm enjoying these videos, because it's an aspect of PCs I never really thought about.
They are very good for showing you all that. Thanks for the vids!
Very interesting videos and i really appreciate the time you guys have taken to make these. This fills my fix for a "How It's Made" tech version. As a current engineer in US medical device manufacturing, it is interesting how many similarities there are on equipment and methodologies for limiting foreign material.
Fabulous hair you got there Steve.
Thanks for you and your teams hard work. These vids are primo. Love em.
Watching paint dry has never been more thrilling.
I'm digging these types of videos. Very interesting. Keep it up!
This is the coolest factory tour yet!
Love these videos!
Watching Factory Tours makes me wish I owned my own factory.
It would be fun to just walk around and watch all the progress being made
(or mistakes, and helping to solve them)
and every step it takes to make the completed product.
Specially if we did not make the same thing day after day.
I love these videos. And you do them so much better than the "How its made" series!
15:05 I saw that blue metal sheet, and the first thing I imagined was a custom Gamers Nexus version of the Lian Li O11 XL.
I'm sure that Andrew would design a great special paint for that.
The hardness rating of paint is the hardest pencil lead that doesn't cut through the coating. Typically these tests are done with H to 9H leads but can use others like F or B leads. The test is performed by first flattening the tip of the lead with fine grit sandpaper till it's completely flat across the entire diameter of the shaft of the lead. This will make a sharp 90°edge between the flat tip and the side of the shaft. The shape edge is placed on the surface of the paint so that the lead is at a 45° angle from the painted surface. Then you must push forward a least 1/4" with as mush downforce as you can without breaking the lead. You will repeat this process with different hardness of leads until you find the hardest one that doesn't go through the paint.
Great tour, thanks.
Fascinating
Very interesting, thank you for the tour :)
That material mentioned in 4:00 maybe a kind of transparent primer
instead of cleaning agent, or both.
super cool
That Corsair burn so hot 12:21 that the paint dried instantly.
and the sponsor for the video is corsair makes it even better
The employees look relaxed. Nice
Can we just get a slow-mo video of the hair blowing on the other channel? With various silly music, ideally.
I'd recommend Yello - Oh Yeah🤣
th-cam.com/video/-uv1PxInJnY/w-d-xo.html But with Steve in the chair.
hmm controlled paint drying I honestly am surprised! thanks for teaching me something new today!
You may not believe this but here goes: I working in a shop with painting rooms/booths where we had a particular problem from a maintenance perspective. Management wanted the booth airflow to vary based upon whether the entrance doors were open or closed. The reason given was that dust could enter the booth with the doors open thus ruining the paint jobs. Also, with the exhaust pulling air into the booth, the doors would slam shut upon closing, knocking dust from the ceiling and door frames. Well, this was an easy fix... magnetic proximity switches were installed to kill the exhaust fans if the doors were opened. The fans were powered through VFD drives so we also ramped the fans up slowly so as to not disturb the environment. Well, after constant complaining about the lighting and air and, and, and we discovered that in between paint runs the booth was used as a sanding booth, creating all the dust that were the basis of the complaints. My point is that after you went thru the dust blowing at the entrance, put on the booties, blew off and wiped any dust from the product to be painted ...well, would you paint them in a sanding booth?
14:40 yes it looks like dry paint as in the filters of our paint booth
3:48 They most likely spray adhesion promoter to plastics. Adhesion promoter is more efficient than abrading the surface prior to applying the first paint coat. Oil contamination is a huge issue. So large an issue that they have communication channels with the plastic manufacture to ensure that something as simple as release agents are not changed before validating the effect.
Best intro i have ever seen
great video
Hell yeah, Extreme Booths!
Video sponsored by Corsair watercooling.
Includes epic burn on Corwair watercooling
Love it.
Back in the late 90s to early 2000s companies like Falcon Northwest and Voodoo (prior to the HP buyout) painted their cases with automotive paint used on high end to exotic cars and they did an amazing job with it. They also went as far as to fold the IDE cables in a way akin to origami. Such detail is lost on most of today's builds, even outside of the PC space.
lmfao sponsor corsair whilst roasting them a bit in the video love it
If they are referring to hard with a number followed by H, then they are probably using the HB graphite hardness scale for pencil lead.
Now that everyone is quarantined at home, let's all watch Steve's video's to SUPPORT him through these DARK times!!!
the hardness that they mentioned may be HRC (rockwell C scale) its used in giving metal a hardness scale almost always. specifically its the gold standard for knife hardness measuring high end knifes are around 60-67 HCR so around 1-8 HCR for paint sounds right
Unlikely HRC, the C is related to a conical tool indent test and is usually related to metals rather than paint - this is likely related to graphite blunting tests
I don't know if this would be possible, but do you ever see yourselves going further down the supply chain to raw material acquisition and processing? That would be super interesting
Ohh that Corsair burn XD
@ 7:38 - I thought that the East Indies had a lot of scooters; then I visited Taipei and was like "holy shit." I have a photo of literally 50+ of them all taking off from a stoplight at once. I call them "the scooter Mafia" because there are "mobs" of them, lol. Taipei is awesome.
and they all wear helmets.
nice
this is fascinating
it should be mandatory subject at schools
Can we talk about how the air box makes Tech Jesus look like a Loreal commercial? He is clearly Worth It.
they were like "this is clean room no dust or hai...... looks at steve magnificent mane... uhh ok"
Neat
貴嗎？ 很貴! Epic!!!!!!!😆😎
11:49 oh no that poor soul huffing all those concentrated fumes in the pain mixing room. no mask what so ever... jesus
I work in the paint department for an auto manufacturer so a lot of this is quite familiar lol.
That coating on the PCB is called conformal coating, and is difficult to do properly on motherboards because of the connectors used could become blocked by it, so it's only used on low volume, high profit margin parts, usually for industrial use.
Did a ton of that and it was not difficult to do. we had stencils for blocking where we didnt want to go on connectors and key components
Anyone else freaked out by the guy adding solvent to paint with no PPE? That guy will have a life span shorter than a may fly!
So.....how do I make the entire interior of my house out of this amazing no dust tech?? Like seriously, that's a dreammmmm!!
Lots and lots of filtration and fans moving air. Are you prepared to live in a constant near 80 dB environment? =)
make your house postitive pressure and add pm2.5 filter to the intake.
@@SupremeRuleroftheWorld/videos Still need to move a lot of air, your clothes and skin are the source of a lot of the dust.
It's almost like all these factories are places one might need to visit during the process of designing, sourcing, and manufacturing a PC case..... 🤔
😉
Love your videos. Hope you get back home before things get locked down. Keep up the great work!
Question: What type of paint were they utilizing? Water based, or petroleum based like enamel, lacquer, urethane? In developed countries the push is for water based to reduce VOC's (volatile organic compounds). It is more than just changing the paint though as each paint technology requires a different drying technique. Water based for example needs lots of air flow to dry properly. Petroleum responds well to IR heat that penetrates the substrate and dries the coating from the bottom first.
Oh good you guys are safe. The dip in uploads was starting to get concerning.
Now I'll watch the vijeo
aye
12:00 Why not just measure volumes in Liters or m3? Would be so much easier and it would be clear.
hmm interesting the robotarm looks like an arm for welding and not for painting (this energy
supply for the EOT through the arm itself is pretty common on welders)
paintrobots typicaly have a different design for the hand to help with straight line movements
also i have never seen a paintrobot without a protectiv cover over it, but thats mayby due to LVLP
instead HVLP and the need for very strong ventelation with a worker in the same cell
thats another point, here in germany if such a set up is checked you can close the factorie till its
fixed
you have a worker in the same cell as this non collaborative robot and workareas overlap without
an obvious way to prevent the robot hitting the worker
no hardstop for the arm in place and no light curtains for an approved software solution
even the gantry style robots wouldnt be approved and i can tell you the gantry style might hurt,
but the 6-axis arm would simply not care if it hits you
Could you give an update on the whole human malware situation and how it affected your trip?
You guys are filling the hole that "how it's made" left.
Steve is the metal Mr. Rogers here.
What was the noise level like? I see a lot of steel surfaces and not a lot of noise management. I am worried about the employees hearing as even low level sounds with prolonged exposure can be harmful. It didn't seem like many people were wearing earplugs.
12:21 lol
15:34 gotta say that was hella kawaii
Factory tour shirt next?
15:48 heh, i'd definitely call a hitachi powerful, but idk about money saving. there are much cheaper vibes out there these days
The initials next to it just stands for Powerful & Money
no saving lol
I love you
How are you going to get back to the states? Heard they’re shutting down flights.
1:59 If that guy slips up he's getting a new piercing.
imperial gallons. haven't heard of that before
So technically , the airflow in this factory is topnotch.
Was a surprise for me see that air conditioning cover (the Hitachi transparent cover) why don't use a plastic white mold?
My guess would be that it's to ensure color matching. It's actually hard to match the exact shade of white if some parts are white plastic and others are painted metal. Even different plastic materials can be hard to match. Painting them all is much simpler.
Robots RULE!!!
Is Steve going to be allowed to reenter the States?
they were like "this is clean room no dust or hai...... looks at steve magnificent mane... uhh ok"
If it truly is a solvent-based paint like you mentioned, I'm surprised they can get away with not using a hazardous location robot. That particular robot is not certified for class 1 division 1 environments. Then again I'm sure they have different rules in different countries. But that would never pass muster in the US.
Well, water is technically a solvent... =)
(jk)
Robots don't have workers rights in Asia yet
Wait, why would that robot not be classified got hazardous locations? Is the solvent a danger to the outside material? I'm a programmer and I just found out that this is a thing.
@@theblackhundreds7124 Purely guessing, but many solvent vapours are highly flammable, so machinery operating in such conditions might require certain safety specifications.
@@theblackhundreds7124 I have no experience with robots, but the first thing that comes to my mind would be flammable solvent fumes. Those can be ignited by electronics that are not properly sealed, hammers that draw a spark when hammering due to their material etc.
At my workplace every device (mobile phones, walky talkys, flashlights, hammers...) we use in areas with the potential to develop flammable or explosive fume/air mixtures has to be rated for that. I think Eric recognized the robot and knows its not typically rated for that.
Corsair shade
Gui ma lol the answer is always tai gui le.
Steve goes Mr. Rogers
They need to get purple.
The PCBs were conformal coated
What i learned today: There is not only type of gallon, there are US and Imperial gallons. The world would be a better place if everyone started using SI.
This can cause confusion in Canada, because Canada used (and still does unofficially to some extent) Imperial measurements, which are not always quite the same as US measurements. Further complicating matters, in Canada, we often call the American measurement system "Imperial", even though it's not.
Luckily, the difference only applies to volume, which is more commonly metric. Imperial weights and distances (which are still common in English-speaking Canada) are the same as US measurements. But fluid ounces, cups, pints, quarts, and gallons are all different. And not a little different, one imperial gallon is 1.2 American gallons.
12:51 lol that looks like weed leaves on her mask
她也是這麽說。
贵吗？ 很贵
pretty on point pronunciations
It took me 10 days to paint my V3000 white.
The case in the thumbnail gave me small sad.
RIP Caselabs.