A wonderful & absorbing session, sir! For the sorts of me, who was very much in the path for quite a while but drifted for a while, it helped me to a serious come back! Thx a lot, doctor! 🙏
It was a talk whereby one can deeply understand Maa Sri Aurobindo. It seems and IS a never ending Knowledge and ofcourse the practice that is put into the same. Thank you Alokda for tips and guidance 🔥🙏
Fortunately we have all these clearly explained by Sri Aurobindo. Please read and let me know if there is an issue. ************************ The physical consciousness is that part which directly responds to physical things and physical Nature, sees the outer only as real, is occupied with it-not like the thinking mind with thought and knowledge, or like the vital with emotion, passion, subtler satisfaction of desire. If this part is obscure, then it is difficult to bring into it the consciousness of deeper or spiritual things, feelings etc. even when the mind or the vital are after these deeper things. * But the body consciousness itself is only part of the individualised physical consciousness in us which we gather and build out of the secretly conscious forces of universal physical Nature. There is the universal physical consciousness of Nature and there is our own which is a part of it, moved by it, and used by the central being for the support of its expression in the physical world and for a direct dealing with all these external objects and movements and forces. This physical consciousness plane receives from the other planes their powers and influences and makes formations of them in its own province. Therefore we have a physical mind as well as a vital mind and the mind proper; we have a vital physical part in us-the nervous being-as well as the vital proper; and both are largely conditioned by the gross material bodily part which is almost entirely subconscient to our experience. The physical mind is that which is fixed on physical objects and happenings, sees and understands these only, and deals with them according to their own nature, but can with difficulty respond to the higher forces. Left to itself, it is sceptical of the existence of supraphysical things, of which it has no direct experience and to which it can find no clue; even when it has spiritual experiences, it forgets them easily, loses the impression and result and finds it difficult to believe. To enlighten the physical mind by the consciousness of the higher spiritual and supramental planes is one object of this Yoga, just as to enlighten it by the power of the higher vital and higher mental elements of the being is the greatest part of human self-development, civilisation and culture. The vital physical on the other hand is the vehicle of the nervous responses of our physical nature; it is the field and instrument of the smaller sensations, desires, reactions of all kinds to the impacts of the outer physical and gross material life. This vital physical part (supported by the lowest part of the vital proper) is therefore the agent of most of the lesser movements of our external life; its habitual reactions and obstinate pettinesses are the chief stumbling-block in the way of the transformation of the outer consciousness by the Yoga. It is also largely responsible for most of the suffering and disease of mind or body to which the physical being is subject in Nature.
part 2 The Material Consciousness or Body Consciousness By material is meant the body consciousness, the consciousness of Matter etc. Physical is a wider term. There is for instance a physical mind (which cannot be called material) dealing with outside earthly things. * A great part of the body consciousness is subconscient and the body consciousness and the subconscient are closely bound together. The body and the physical do not coincide-the body consciousness is only part of the whole physical consciousness. * What you describe is the material consciousness; it is mostly subconscient, but the part of it that is conscious, is mechanical, inertly moved by habits or by the forces of the lower nature. Always repeating the same unintelligent and unenlightened movements, it is attached to the routine and established rule of what already exists, unwilling to change, unwilling to receive the Light or obey the higher Force. Or, if it is willing, then it is unable. Or if it is able, then it turns the action given to it by the Light or the Force into a new mechanical routine and so takes out of it all soul or life. It is obscure, stupid, indolent, full of ignorance and inertia, darkness and slowness of tamas. It is this material consciousness into which we are seeking to bring first the higher (divine or spiritual) Light and Power and Ananda, and then the supramental Truth which is the object of our Yoga. But there is an obstinate dark and inert resistance both from material Nature and from the physical consciousness of the sadhaks-of which the lower vital and the material consciousness, both of them still unregenerated, are the cause. * It [the material] is the most physical grade of the physical- there is the mental physical, the vital physical, the material physical. * Yes-or at least it [the material consciousness] is a separate part of the physical consciousness. Physical mind for instance is narrow and limited and often stupid, but not inert. Matter consciousness is on the contrary inert as well as largely subconscious- active only when driven by an energy, otherwise inactive and immobile. When one first falls into direct contact with this level, the feeling in the body is that of inertia and immobility, in the vital physical exhaustion or lassitude, in the physical mind absence of prakasa and pravritti or only the most ordinary thoughts and impulses. It took me a long time to get down any kind of light or power into this level. But when once it is illumined, the advantage is that the subconscient becomes conscient and this removes a very fundamental obstacle from the sadhana.
Thank you Alokda for your reply🙏. So it is like gross mind, gross life and gross body makes up the gross physical and the gross body is the material consciousness? The subtle mind, subtle life and subtle body make up the subtle physical and the subtle body is connected to the inner consciousness? Can you please explain the difference between the physical mind (which is explained by you) and the mental physical? Does the mental physical mean the mind in the physical? Same with other combinations, how do they work? Thanking you in anticipation Regards🙏
Yes the body consciousness comprises the different parts that go into making the consciousness of the body including the mind and the vital. The inner being is constituted of the inner mental, inner vital, inner physical. The subtle body refers in general either to the subtle physical alone or else sometimes also to the vital body. The physical mind is mind that is dependent upon the sensory inputs of the gross physical world. The mental physical is the mind operating within the physical. It is involved in the physical yet determines its processes, for example the clockwork mechanisms of the body.
Thank you Alokda for the explanation 🙏 been able to understand and have clarity of the other combinations too, especially one operating within the other and the difference between the body, physical and material consciousness. Thanks once again for the same 🔥🙏
,🙏🙏🙏sir your hallowed words n rotten reality of competitive education we have received don't march at all.🙏🙏🙏from some one who has been swimming against the currents reaching no where she also be noted🙏🏵️
Sr deep regards Suppose always reading the books to give speech and discourses , own instituional works and always v v bg schedule are Divine works or wat.....
Sir Can you please explain repeating the divine name as sadhana .some saints prescribed it's the best remedy for kali age .what aurobindo or mother said about it.
Dear Magesh Yes it has so mentioned in the Indian scriptures that in the Age of Kaliyuga, it is neither yoga nor dhyana nor Jnana but simply repeating the Name of the Lord is enough. The reason cited is that it is an Age when man's consciousness sinks to the lowest abysses of material life. It is an age when our vision turns blind towards deeper spiritual things and the will and faith are usurped by powers of darkness and obscurity. Besides it is said that in this age man's lifespan progressively becomes less and less and hence he has hardly anytime left for spiritual practices. Whatever it is be, the nature of our modern life has certainly taken a turn towards the fulfilment of desire self and the assertion of the ego. It did sink in abysses of despair, selfishness, falsehood and ingratitude. what could rescue it from there except the Lord's Name. This Name provides the needed support to link up to Him from our side. Once we connect then His Grace pulls us out slowly but steadily. Sri Krishna confirms the same and so do Sri Aurobindo and The Mother reveal the power of Namajapa as below: "Namajapa or Repetition of the Name of the Divine is usually called in for protection, for adoration, for increase of bhakti, for the opening up of the inner consciousness, for the realisation of the Divine in that aspect. As far as it is necessary to work in the subconscious for that, the Name must be effective there. * It [the effectiveness of namajapa] depends on the person and how he does it. The Name of the Divine is in itself a power, if it is taken with the right faith and in the right attitude. * Namajapa has a great power in it. * Namochcharana has power but only if it comes from the heart and the soul; mere repetition with the mind is not enough. * Whatever name is called the Power that answers is the Mother. Each name indicates a certain aspect of the Divine and is limited by that aspect; the Mother’s Power is universal. * Naturally, whatever name one concentrates on [while awake] will repeat itself [in sleep], if any does. But the calling of Mother in sleep is not necessarily a repetition-it is the inner being that often calls to her in difficulty or in need. * I did not encourage the name with the breathing because that seemed like pranayam. Pranayam is a very powerful thing, but if done haphazardly it may lead to the raising of obstructions and even in extreme cases illness in the body. * A divine Name or a Mantra (like the So’ham) can enter the adhara and move in the breathing as in your experience. When it does so, that is not the opening of which I speak in the sentence you quote, but it may come to make the aspiration effective by helping in the opening-by removing something that prevents the opening and by leading to the experience it carries in it." The Mother has also spoken about it with a certain degree of emphasis as one of the principle means for the practice of this sadhana. Having said that it is not something to be done exclusively, especially for this yoga which opens upon a many sided endeavour towards the Divine. Exclusive japa can lead to a progressive withdrawal from life. But here since transformation is the real Goal, the Name of the Divine Mother taken with faith and devotion, though the main support of the sadhak, should be complemented with some self-enabling sadhana such as practice of inner concentration, cultivating equanimity and peace, persistent aspiration and surrender, growth of sincerity, a refusal to concede to lower movements by standing back from them and offering them to Her for transformation. Yet through all this Her Name must remain the main support singing behind as the rejuvenating music of life, running with our breath as the nectarous stream into which we can dip whenever we have a little time amidst all we do, our work and exercise and rest. affectionately alok
HariOm 🙏🙏very inspiring and touching words for devotees Thankyou so much 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
A wonderful & absorbing session, sir! For the sorts of me, who was very much in the path for quite a while but drifted for a while, it helped me to a serious come back! Thx a lot, doctor! 🙏
Thank God 🙏 I love cosmic power,creater and creation of nature.
The divine Mother make myself aligned with conscious force.
Straight and simple words 🙏🙏
Wonderful clarity Sir with examples . The take away is to " listen to the calling "
It was a talk whereby one can deeply understand Maa Sri Aurobindo. It seems and IS a never ending Knowledge and ofcourse the practice that is put into the same. Thank you Alokda for tips and guidance 🔥🙏
Fortunately we have all these clearly explained by Sri Aurobindo. Please read and let me know if there is an issue.
************************
The physical consciousness is that part which directly responds to physical things and physical Nature, sees the outer only as real, is occupied with it-not like the thinking mind with thought and knowledge, or like the vital with emotion, passion, subtler satisfaction of desire. If this part is obscure, then it is difficult to bring into it the consciousness of deeper or spiritual things, feelings etc. even when the mind or the vital are after these deeper things.
*
But the body consciousness itself is only part of the individualised physical consciousness in us which we gather and build out of the secretly conscious forces of universal physical Nature. There is the universal physical consciousness of Nature and there is our own which is a part of it, moved by it, and used by the central being for the support of its expression in the physical world and for a direct dealing with all these external objects and movements and forces. This physical consciousness plane receives from the other planes their powers and influences and makes formations of them in its own province. Therefore we have a physical mind as well as a vital mind and the mind proper; we have a vital physical part in us-the nervous being-as well as the vital proper; and both are largely conditioned by the gross material bodily part which is almost entirely subconscient to our experience.
The physical mind is that which is fixed on physical objects and happenings, sees and understands these only, and deals with them according to their own nature, but can with difficulty respond to the higher forces. Left to itself, it is sceptical of the existence of supraphysical things, of which it has no direct experience and to which it can find no clue; even when it has spiritual experiences, it forgets them easily, loses the impression and result and finds it difficult to believe. To enlighten the physical mind by the consciousness of the higher spiritual and supramental planes is one object of this Yoga, just as to enlighten it by the power of the higher vital and higher mental elements of the being is the greatest part of human self-development, civilisation and culture.
The vital physical on the other hand is the vehicle of the nervous responses of our physical nature; it is the field and instrument of the smaller sensations, desires, reactions of all kinds to the impacts of the outer physical and gross material life.
This vital physical part (supported by the lowest part of the vital proper) is therefore the agent of most of the lesser movements of our external life; its habitual reactions and obstinate pettinesses are the chief stumbling-block in the way of the transformation of the outer consciousness by the Yoga. It is also largely responsible for most of the suffering and disease of mind or body to which the physical being is subject in Nature.
part 2
The Material Consciousness or Body Consciousness
By material is meant the body consciousness, the consciousness of Matter etc. Physical is a wider term. There is for instance a physical mind (which cannot be called material) dealing with outside earthly things.
*
A great part of the body consciousness is subconscient and the body consciousness and the subconscient are closely bound together.
The body and the physical do not coincide-the body consciousness is only part of the whole physical consciousness.
*
What you describe is the material consciousness; it is mostly subconscient, but the part of it that is conscious, is mechanical, inertly moved by habits or by the forces of the lower nature. Always repeating the same unintelligent and unenlightened movements, it is attached to the routine and established rule of what already exists, unwilling to change, unwilling to receive the Light or obey the higher Force. Or, if it is willing, then it is unable. Or if it is able, then it turns the action given to it by the Light or the Force into a new mechanical routine and so takes out of it all soul or life. It is obscure, stupid, indolent, full of ignorance and inertia, darkness and slowness of tamas.
It is this material consciousness into which we are seeking to bring first the higher (divine or spiritual) Light and Power and Ananda, and then the supramental Truth which is the object of our Yoga. But there is an obstinate dark and inert resistance both from material Nature and from the physical consciousness of the sadhaks-of which the lower vital and the material consciousness, both of them still unregenerated, are the cause.
*
It [the material] is the most physical grade of the physical- there is the mental physical, the vital physical, the material physical.
*
Yes-or at least it [the material consciousness] is a separate part of the physical consciousness. Physical mind for instance is narrow and limited and often stupid, but not inert. Matter consciousness is on the contrary inert as well as largely subconscious- active only when driven by an energy, otherwise inactive and immobile. When one first falls into direct contact with this level, the feeling in the body is that of inertia and immobility, in the vital physical exhaustion or lassitude, in the physical mind absence of prakasa and pravritti or only the most ordinary thoughts and impulses. It took me a long time to get down any kind of light or power into this level. But when once it is illumined, the advantage is that the subconscient becomes conscient and this removes a very fundamental obstacle from the sadhana.
Thank you Alokda for your reply🙏. So it is like gross mind, gross life and gross body makes up the gross physical and the gross body is the material consciousness?
The subtle mind, subtle life and subtle body make up the subtle physical and the subtle body is connected to the inner consciousness?
Can you please explain the difference between the physical mind (which is explained by you) and the mental physical? Does the mental physical mean the mind in the physical? Same with other combinations, how do they work?
Thanking you in anticipation
Regards🙏
Yes the body consciousness comprises the different parts that go into making the consciousness of the body including the mind and the vital. The inner being is constituted of the inner mental, inner vital, inner physical. The subtle body refers in general either to the subtle physical alone or else sometimes also to the vital body. The physical mind is mind that is dependent upon the sensory inputs of the gross physical world. The mental physical is the mind operating within the physical. It is involved in the physical yet determines its processes, for example the clockwork mechanisms of the body.
Thank you Alokda for the explanation 🙏 been able to understand and have clarity of the other combinations too, especially one operating within the other and the difference between the body, physical and material consciousness. Thanks once again for the same 🔥🙏
Sri Aurobindo & Sri Maa the ultimate solution for every generation.
Namaste Maa🙏❤️🌹
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
,🙏🙏🙏sir your hallowed words n rotten reality of competitive education we have received don't march at all.🙏🙏🙏from some one who has been swimming against the currents reaching no where she also be noted🙏🏵️
Sr deep regards
Suppose always reading the books to give speech and discourses , own instituional works and always v v bg schedule are Divine works or wat.....
We must know how life is operating and towards which it is going.
Maa 🙏
Sir
Can you please explain repeating the divine name as sadhana .some saints prescribed it's the best remedy for kali age .what aurobindo or mother said about it.
Dear Magesh
Yes it has so mentioned in the Indian scriptures that in the Age of Kaliyuga, it is neither yoga nor dhyana nor Jnana but simply repeating the Name of the Lord is enough. The reason cited is that it is an Age when man's consciousness sinks to the lowest abysses of material life. It is an age when our vision turns blind towards deeper spiritual things and the will and faith are usurped by powers of darkness and obscurity. Besides it is said that in this age man's lifespan progressively becomes less and less and hence he has hardly anytime left for spiritual practices. Whatever it is be, the nature of our modern life has certainly taken a turn towards the fulfilment of desire self and the assertion of the ego. It did sink in abysses of despair, selfishness, falsehood and ingratitude. what could rescue it from there except the Lord's Name. This Name provides the needed support to link up to Him from our side. Once we connect then His Grace pulls us out slowly but steadily. Sri Krishna confirms the same and so do Sri Aurobindo and The Mother reveal the power of Namajapa as below:
"Namajapa or Repetition of the Name of the Divine is usually called in for protection, for adoration, for increase of bhakti, for the opening up of the inner consciousness, for the realisation of the Divine in that aspect.
As far as it is necessary to work in the subconscious for that, the Name must be effective there.
*
It [the effectiveness of namajapa] depends on the person and how he does it. The Name of the Divine is in itself a power, if it is taken with the right faith and in the right attitude.
*
Namajapa has a great power in it.
*
Namochcharana has power but only if it comes from the heart and the soul; mere repetition with the mind is not enough.
*
Whatever name is called the Power that answers is the Mother. Each name indicates a certain aspect of the Divine and is limited by that aspect; the Mother’s Power is universal.
*
Naturally, whatever name one concentrates on [while awake] will repeat itself [in sleep], if any does. But the calling of Mother in sleep is not necessarily a repetition-it is the inner being that often calls to her in difficulty or in need.
*
I did not encourage the name with the breathing because that seemed like pranayam. Pranayam is a very powerful thing, but if done haphazardly it may lead to the raising of obstructions and even in extreme cases illness in the body.
*
A divine Name or a Mantra (like the So’ham) can enter the adhara and move in the breathing as in your experience. When it does so, that is not the opening of which I speak in the sentence you quote, but it may come to make the aspiration effective by helping in the opening-by removing something that prevents the opening and by leading to the experience it carries in it."
The Mother has also spoken about it with a certain degree of emphasis as one of the principle means for the practice of this sadhana. Having said that it is not something to be done exclusively, especially for this yoga which opens upon a many sided endeavour towards the Divine. Exclusive japa can lead to a progressive withdrawal from life. But here since transformation is the real Goal, the Name of the Divine Mother taken with faith and devotion, though the main support of the sadhak, should be complemented with some self-enabling sadhana such as practice of inner concentration, cultivating equanimity and peace, persistent aspiration and surrender, growth of sincerity, a refusal to concede to lower movements by standing back from them and offering them to Her for transformation. Yet through all this Her Name must remain the main support singing behind as the rejuvenating music of life, running with our breath as the nectarous stream into which we can dip whenever we have a little time amidst all we do, our work and exercise and rest.
affectionately
alok
@@AuroMaa I'm really happy to see your reply .thank you alok sir .
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Supramental force is solution over the pain The Mother
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