@@simonsayswebdesign I remember, it was the first SpaceX crewed mission to the ISS. Musk said on Lex's podcast: “[…] Now, I am not a religious person but I, nonetheless, got on my knees and prayed for this mission,”. I doubt getting into a CyberCab, while exciting, would elicit the same response. Besides, it was a 'prayer' to the universe one would wager, no god/s required.
Given my experience with the Tesla self drive feature, there is no way in hell I would take a ride in a Robotaxi! Now, to preface this, I LOVE the autopilot feature…. But it’s nowhere near perfect. There are many MANY times that the thing will brake randomly, or will try to swerve because a new lane opened up. It definitely helps make driving easier, but you still have to pay attention and periodically take control went it does wonky things. It’s to the point where my wife won’t let me use it when she’s in the car because these minor glitches scare the shit out of her. The full self drive, on the other hand, scared the shit out of me. It would do weird things at 4-way stops. Sometimes it would take forever to start moving at a stop sign, despite no other cars being around. It would randomly change lanes when I didn’t want it to. The system just didn’t in-still trust. It seemed very half baked. Now take that half baked system and throw it into a car that doesn’t have any means of taking control in the event of the car behaving unexpectedly. That’s a recipe for disaster.
People are asking what happened to the new Tesla Model 2 or 2.5. I figured it out. The robotaxi was a cool car. The front section is made from 1 casting. The rear section is made from 1 casting. What goes on in between the front and rear can either be a 2 seater Robotaxi or a 4 or 5 seater Model 2.5 depending on the demand. So the drivable car will be produced right along side the Robotaxi. Using same main castings. Just a different interior design. Thanks for all of the work you do on Tesla.
@@billweberx there’s plenty of situations that can occur. For example the battery is basically down to 0 for some reason, how do you propose charging the car, portable wireless chargers?
8:33 you would need 54 robovans to match the capacity of an underground train. It’s just laughable that it’s a viable alternative. Just look at the efficiency of modern metro systems like the newly extended metro line in Sydney.
Lots of places in the world without underground train. Roads are the only alternative most places. And when are busses / trains typically full? Workdays at 0800 and 1600. Specially here in Europe. A fleet of 20 seaters will go a long way as long as they come often enough.
Not ‘sustainable’? Electric trains exist, and they can be charged on the run. No batteries required! And trains even more efficient due to the metal wheels and scalability.
@@ChickenTenderX tram, train, subway, bus public transport is nothing new and specially a bus has a couple of features that are missing from the van (high capcity, storage space for small and big luggage). I drive an EV myself, but a bus is definetly the worst type of transportion to electrify.
This sounds like it'll be a good idea for Traveling to different cities. Depending if you can keep one for more than a day, get a Cyber cab instead of a rental.
No need to keep it. Just use cybercabs in other cities upon arrival. Keeping the car would be very expensive. You would be charged the whole time you have it.
Wow I'm glad you figured that out. I don't know how the best engineers in the world overlooked that, or maybe just maybe it will have air ride suspension like most Tesla cars. 😮
@@linemanap Sure, and it's just going to jack up a van with 20 passengers aboard by 2 inches to keep from bottoming out when it encounters a errant pothole on an otherwise previously pristine road, cuz like the cybertruck just instanteously levitates 2 inches within a fraction of a second..... Lol
This video told me nothing I didn’t already know from watching the We, Robot event. Also, if FSD literally gives you the same functionality as a Cyber Cab while also giving you a backup should FSD malfunction, why would anyone buy a Cyber Cab. If technology has taught us anything, it’s that’s it’s never perfect 100% of the time. There are always bugs, glitches, patches, and fixes. The Cyber Cab basically makes it so that when (not if) that happens you’re basically stranded, whereas if FSD starts malfunctioning in your Model 3, you just turn it off, grab the steering wheel, and go on your merry way.
@@bobbybishop5662 do you think some investors are finally cautious that it’s a pump and dump scheme? Musk pays those who pump his stock well so it must a difficult to remain ethical
Alot of lies happened . Just like the cyber truck is gonna cost 40k then he sells them for 100k . If he says this robo taxi will cost 30k it will really cost 90k. He's already proved he doesn't tell the truth
How is that possible with a fully stuffed M3 being sold for 45k. Now when you look at the robotaxi its clear that its cheaper to manufactur than a M3. How do you come up with the 90k price tag?
40k was for the single motor version which isn't even in production yet. The price will keep coming down as production ramps. AWD for 79k already provides a ton of value for the money. Probably why it already out sold all other EV trucks combined. That was before the 20k price drop.
@linemanap 79 k for a truck that can't do truck things is a great deal lol lol. The cybertruck is the least reliable vehicle in the country, it can't tow or off road . It's basically for you tube kids and pro sports stars. 79k for a truck that should cost 20k isn't a good deal at all man. To top that off you can't really own any tesla out of warranty not sure if you even know what good deal means cmon
@@user-rl4cc8dw5r I got the feeling you get your information from the wrong kind of youtube videos. Certainly not from talking to CT owners. Its actually the most versatile truck on the market and it will outlive many of its competitors. Time will tell that
The Cybercab's doors should open straight up. As it currently is, it would hit nearby vehicles. It might 'see' the offending obstructions, but even then, it would keep the passenger inside. The Cybervan has its own issue. It needs to be able to raise automatically, or it'll be damaged with every bump or pothole. The biggest issue preventing a commonplace cab system is the lack of charging. Many charging pads need to be installed in common areas to keep the vehicles in service, otherwise they will have a limited area to be used. I've heard some talk of charging pads installed in public roads, but that could be a minefield to get approved considering who pays for the electricity charges.
@@billweberx That would be good, but it would require more material and increase the weight, not to mention more apt to cause problems. Going straight up would be almost the same as it currently is, and yet not infringe on nearby items. You are less likely to have something above blocking that couldn't easily be avoided by 'seeing' it.
@@PaulADAigle Going straight up would require the same cost and materials as going straight back. In fact, it may cost less as you're not fighting gravity. It wouldn't have any more problems and it's already a proven design in use by millions of minivans. No vehicle has vertical doors. Seems they would interfere in a garage or any place with a low ceiling.
@@billweberx The slide on a van, for instance, is an additional cost, weight, and possible future damage. Depending on the design, it could infringe on airflow or interior space, although minimally. Going up would be exactly the same amount of mechanism that the current wing design has with similar height restrictions. In a garage, there may be a height limitation, but simple software could recognize that height limit, and still allow for transitioning in or out.
Is it the case that these autonomous driving cars are programmed to not hit pedestrians, which implies that muggers can easily stop your robotaxi by stepping in front of it?
The more complicated a contraption is, the more vulnerable they usually are to simple attacks. Take the Hi-tech Israeli defenses: their border defenses defeated by simple paragliders, and their Iron Shield defated by a surge of dumb rockets. The human driver controlling the vehicle is the most superior and verstatile to all unexpected scenarios.
Trapped in a taxi that is not near a charging station ... or waiting for a taxi while it heads for an inefficient inductive charge ? Yep, worse than West World because death will be slower.
Look, im a Tesla Bull but I think its going to be ready more by 2035. Im talking about the 'flawless' end product. I do believe by 2030/2032 we'll get the network and the cheaper model but it wont be until 2035 it will be perfect.
I think Elon forgot that the audian included peole that did not have this perspective of how they planned the presentation. Based on your intro tjis explains a lot in that Elon layed out an experience and most likely a lot of easter eggs for you to build out a picture of what the vision is for autononmy and the bot. Very interesting way to presemnt fully utilising the hollywood set and the cars and bot and the fact that Elon let the team explain things in mode detail enable him to have a short pres and hive the 30k ft view. I wish he would have explained this. Or to be honest anyone else or the TH-camrs, u are the first that I have watched telling me this. Thanks.
Watching movies during a ride... more likely comercials only or will there be specially condensed movies if the ride is less than hour and half? Passangers will start loving thraffic jams just to finish watching ( on the way 0:01 to work?)
8:32 The most efficient methods of transport cost too much and aren't safe and sustainable? What is the Tesla marketing team smoking? And their solution is "bus, but worse". Unbelievable.
For the WestWorld fans, did anyone else think Elon’s pronunciation of Robovan rhymed with “Rehoboam” ?? For context, Rehoboam is an artificial super-intelligence (that could predict the future) seen in the latter half of the HBO series, WestWorld.
No more custom sound systems, the end of aftermarket part suppliers? Put a lot of companies out of business, and a lot of potential customers jobless, without the higher education or transitional skills for re employment.
He also said a few years back that an electric car company could become successful, that people would like them, that cars could successfully drive themselves, that there could be reusable rockets that return and land... But yeah, that was quite a burn you got in there. Puts him to shame. ...lol...
@akiramenai4973 I'm not sure tesla being on corporate welfare is being successful , man. Without government welfare, tesla hasn't made profit once in its history. Perhaps your not aware of what some of the words your using mean . Tesla is a proven scam kinda why their not growing . Ev account for 2 percent of the cars on the road the exact same as it did 5 years ago . In fact half of telsa sales are to exsisting customers not new ones food for thought. Pretty much 90 percent of what he says isn't true and it's just said to sell stock , this is a proven fact .
If these robocabs only cost $30k and available for anyone to hire out wouldn't there quickly be a glut of ride capacity in every city? I guess it would be good for people that can't afford cars but no one will make a profit if the supply isn't somehow limited.
Am I the only one worrying about the safety of the Robovan? Imagine a suv hitting the van from the side at 80 km/h. I don’t think it’s structural integrity will play along
Sure I need a TV infront of me because i don't look outside 😅 during a short trip to the restaurant. This is just so american and will only work there because there are no trains 😂😂😂
Its the Tesla control system since the beginning. They will never get rid of the center screen. How would you engage with the car then? Plastic buttons?
This self driving Tesla (=EU Level 5 autonomy) won’t be available before 2030. Maybe 2035. It’s all Elon timeline. Where is the Roadster Elon? Is is delayed like 5 years ???
Everyone has a screen in the pocket. The one that called the cab. I see the huge cab's screen as a liability to get exposed to the average humanity care.
My FREE ENERGY design will change the entire energy of the world, all calculations correspond to the laws of physics. And this Tesla will be charged from my installation
Aerodynamics don’t effect city driving. Inductive charging is inefficient. Power operated doors are inefficient. Automatic cleaning is too complex to achieve. Robots were so clearly controlled by humans.
EDIT Recently on X tesla account it was confirmed induction charging will have 90% efficiency - which is more efficient than wired charging. ===== Aerodynamics always important for the life of a car - anytime going over 30mph. Inductive charging requires no human intervention, can still be free (solar) - and "inefficiency" solvable. Doors are perfect design for all people, including disabled. Automatic cleaning backed with AI in 2025 will be piece if cake. First iphone was not even a phone - some plastic case with fake buttons on glass. These robots were much above compared to iphone1 level vs production.
Oh, forgot to mention - how brilliant the design and function of doors are, self-closing, guaranteeing the robotaxi will go to the next clients even if the ones going out forgot them open. You got everything wrong. Tesla engineers are years ahead of any other brand.
@@geo5982 The level of ignorance from you is astonishing. Elon makes promises like these all the time and delivers 10% of time at best, and even that 5-10years over schedule. Engineers have to fix problems Elon makes and those projects and big reveals only exist to boost stock value, Elon very well knows he's lying, but has to appease share holders. Aerodynamics do absolutely nothing for city car. inductive charging inefficiency is not solvable there will always be lasses that will ad up. Elon has proven he doesn't understand that relying on cameras instead of lidar is a dumb mistake. Don't you know that tesla sells "full self driving" for $8,000 which cannot be used for full self driving? Sure, bud, suddenly Lawmakers mind will be changed by Elons genius aura and laws will magically change nation/world-wide to even allow these cars on roads in less than a year. Stop sucking Elons D in yt comments he will never read.
I agree with my level of ignorance. And yours. I never believed electric cars were possible. Musk and his teams literally "forced" the entire planet to follow them. I never believed a pencil shaped rocket can "land" to be reused. Musk and his teams did it. Nobody else did it. Not even governments, forget companies. By the looks of it, whatever was "impossible" by world standards - even if later than planned - Musk and his teams proved the entire world wrong. And he'll do the same with FSD, robotaxis and robots. They all will happen. It's just a matter of time.
@@geo5982 You didn't think electric cars were possible? So you don't know that first cars ever created were electric? Reason why everyone switched to ICE were range increase, ease of infrastructure and heavy, inefficient batteries...Only battery tech has improved since then. " Musk and his teams literally "forced" the entire planet to follow them." that's a big NO. New regulations made entire planet to follow them, don't forget that Just few years ago Tesla stock was more valuable than all car companies combined while producing less than 1% of all cars. Stock was, and still is inflated based on Elons persona. Elon is terrible at manufacturing and engineering, but he's a genius at marketing, everyone followed tesla because of his outrageous futuristic promises, of which all fell flat. As soon as he released Flamethrower, Tesla tequila, etc. they all sold out instantly. Sold out not because those were good products, but because who made them - a likeable genius cool guy Elon.😂 it would be cringe for tesla company to fail with the amount of money they received. Back in 2016 it received 500k pr-orders for model Y for down payment of 1000$ per car to be in a waiting list, that's 500milion$ to create production line and start manufacturing for that model. Same for other models. With such influx of capital it would be cringe to fail such an relatively easy task. "I never believed a pencil shaped rocket can "land" to be reused. Musk and his teams did it. Nobody else did it. Not even governments, forget companies." Well, I'm sorry to break it to you bet NASA achieved that back in 1993 with DC-X. Resons why reusable rockets were scrapped - lack of government funding, high maintenance costs and length of the maintenance. Also, at least at the time payload were more expensive than the rocket itself, So it was more viable for NASA to concentrate on the safety of the payload rather than reusability. The Space Shuttle was the world's first reusable space vehicle. The orbiter, its 3 main engines, and twin solid rocket boosters could be refurbished and flown again. More than 800 astronauts rode on 135 shuttle missions from 1981 to 2011.
I don't care about the Robotaxi itself, be it a reality or not...See Adam something's vid on the future of such transportation. No, what makes me smile is all the "Cost effective" measures that make this car look like...A car. Yes. Musk is progressively discovering what a real car is. At the end of his life Teslas will be conventional cars, with conventional windows, with conventional doors, with conventional everything. And Musk will showcase all this as "improvements" when the competition has caught up silently, and overtaken Tesla in almost all domains, including autonomous drive. 😆
When the Telsa cars can autonomously bring folks to the event, from the airport of hotel, THEN it will be impressive. Otherwise this was Musk spending another 1.5 million at Warner Bros. Studio for temporary imaginary ride, no different than any other theme park. The pump and dump failed as the OP pointed out.
10/10 Was just another elon "Just you wait 5 years" announcement and the Stock Market puked TSLA's guts out the next day elon stop all the BS about "Just you wait 5 years" crap
Seems people that count how cheap the CyberCab will be misd the point that people are even willing to pay a premium for such a taxi to get privacy, peace and no stress of having to deive yourself. Just as Elon said. You can go to work while eating that sandwich or catching up on the paperwork. That's worth an extra cost if there was one. Would anyone rather take a cowded and dirty downtown L.A. city bus with the homeless or some gang members/criminals?
Personally I don't like the design. is NOT catered for people with disabilities or elderly people. seats are so low to the ground so it's harder to get in an out of, especially without any handles. They should have made it taller and 4 seats facing each other so there is room to put your cane/crutchers etc. and those DOORS? They stick out so far when fully opened. wouldn't they have learned from the model X those doors are silly and problematic? For a taxi, it should be a sliding door like on a minivan. FAR easier access in and out. Just two seats is ridiculous. A LOT of people using robotaxis would be tourists with kids etc, but with two seats? If anything, have THREE seats in the front. the current seats are so wide you could fit there in there. They just designed this vehicle from the model 3. They should have made it like the robovan but 4 smaller with 4-6 seats
I guess you missed the fact that "90% of all city journeys are for 1 or 2 people"? And that the Master Plan includes people providing their larger cars for use as private hires in addition to the Cyber Cabs? If the Cyber Cab cost is a fraction of what the current cheapest option costs, four people would just get 2 cabs and still save money.
4:10 That's not how you measure screen sizes. Those are measured diagonally.
I’m pretty sure it was just a visual representation but the size he put up is correct if measured diagonally
Once Elon Musk's XAI88x passes $1, it may NEVER see that low again
Bought XAI88x after watching your video, super excited!
I solely believe XAI88x will do 20x after its launch price, the hype is high and its community are not relenting.
1:16 "Is it 69,420 miles away?" hehe
Straight up looks like the self driving vehicles in Minority Report.
1:43 Musk doesn't "say a prayer" ffs, he has both his hands up to show no driver controls! Says a prayer 🤣😂🤣
chill brother.
@@matthewnemetchek1990 There's nothing "chill" about religion brother.
@@MrJKJKJK1974 surrendering surely. ‘I admit it’s all a huge lie you suckers!’
He said a prayer on the 4th launch of the first rocket that secured their first NASA contract :) 🙏🙏
@@simonsayswebdesign I remember, it was the first SpaceX crewed mission to the ISS. Musk said on Lex's podcast: “[…] Now, I am not a religious person but I, nonetheless, got on my knees and prayed for this mission,”. I doubt getting into a CyberCab, while exciting, would elicit the same response. Besides, it was a 'prayer' to the universe one would wager, no god/s required.
Slight correction, the Cybercab window buttons are in the centre armrest area. Excellent informative video, thanks.
Thanks for the advice! Got XAI88x, feeling bullish! 🚀
Given my experience with the Tesla self drive feature, there is no way in hell I would take a ride in a Robotaxi!
Now, to preface this, I LOVE the autopilot feature…. But it’s nowhere near perfect. There are many MANY times that the thing will brake randomly, or will try to swerve because a new lane opened up. It definitely helps make driving easier, but you still have to pay attention and periodically take control went it does wonky things. It’s to the point where my wife won’t let me use it when she’s in the car because these minor glitches scare the shit out of her.
The full self drive, on the other hand, scared the shit out of me. It would do weird things at 4-way stops. Sometimes it would take forever to start moving at a stop sign, despite no other cars being around. It would randomly change lanes when I didn’t want it to. The system just didn’t in-still trust. It seemed very half baked.
Now take that half baked system and throw it into a car that doesn’t have any means of taking control in the event of the car behaving unexpectedly. That’s a recipe for disaster.
If your stuck in traffic for up to 3 hours in the RoboVan or RoboBus with 20 people on board it's going to need a bathroom like a Greyhound bus has.
Do city buses have bathrooms?
Bag of diapers
I'd never been in a car accident until last July when I got hit by a Tesla on auto drive.
No sht Sherlock. I guess I'm just part of his R and D.
I really hope Elon succeeds with FSD
Not a matter of if, but when.
We all do but all this laying doesn’t make it easy to believe.
@@billweberxnope.its jail.n3xt for elong
I hope Tesla succeeds with FSD because i own Tesla shares, not Elon shares.
i don´t
People are asking what happened to the new Tesla Model 2 or 2.5. I figured it out. The robotaxi was a cool car.
The front section is made from 1 casting. The rear section is made from 1 casting.
What goes on in between the front and rear can either be a 2 seater Robotaxi or a 4 or 5 seater Model 2.5 depending on the demand.
So the drivable car will be produced right along side the Robotaxi. Using same main castings. Just a different interior design.
Thanks for all of the work you do on Tesla.
That sounds awesome actually lol is this confirmed or being talked about anywhere?
@@JasonStewart-d8t It just my theory. Make a little sense though
@@JasonStewart-d8t The schematic of how the Robotaxi is put together make my theory make sense
No.
Seems you haven’t got it figured out.
@@oggyoggy1299 lol you're probably right
No charging port. Wireless is great but but a wired option is needed.
Why?
COZ!
It can charge like the bot. Long solved Situation
@@billweberx there’s plenty of situations that can occur. For example the battery is basically down to 0 for some reason, how do you propose charging the car, portable wireless chargers?
@@bertveilleux1701 Yes. Can be added to tow trucks easily. It's no harder than if you use the charge port.
I kinda want this just for myself lol
just get a model 3 lol. You have the benefit of driving it like a car if you want to.
8:33 you would need 54 robovans to match the capacity of an underground train. It’s just laughable that it’s a viable alternative. Just look at the efficiency of modern metro systems like the newly extended metro line in Sydney.
Lots of places in the world without underground train. Roads are the only alternative most places. And when are busses / trains typically full? Workdays at 0800 and 1600. Specially here in Europe. A fleet of 20 seaters will go a long way as long as they come often enough.
I can't drive so I"d rather by my own than ride with freeloading fare jumpers/homeless/ghetto people.
Not ‘sustainable’?
Electric trains exist, and they can be charged on the run. No batteries required!
And trains even more efficient due to the metal wheels and scalability.
@@ChickenTenderX tram, train, subway, bus
public transport is nothing new
and specially a bus has a couple of features that are missing from the van (high capcity, storage space for small and big luggage).
I drive an EV myself, but a bus is definetly the worst type of transportion to electrify.
This sounds like it'll be a good idea for Traveling to different cities. Depending if you can keep one for more than a day, get a Cyber cab instead of a rental.
No need to keep it. Just use cybercabs in other cities upon arrival. Keeping the car would be very expensive. You would be charged the whole time you have it.
@@billweberx That's what i'm saying, just keep the cybercab instead.
BYD will sell it's version for less than $5,000.00 dollars and with bigger screen, bigger car seats and a frig.
One little pothole and the Cyber van will literally bottom out and it doesn't have to be very much😂
Wow I'm glad you figured that out. I don't know how the best engineers in the world overlooked that, or maybe just maybe it will have air ride suspension like most Tesla cars. 😮
@@linemanap And with that many constantly-observant "eyes," it's going to see a pothole worth worrying about, and avoid it just like any human.
@@linemanap Sure, and it's just going to jack up a van with 20 passengers aboard by 2 inches to keep from bottoming out when it encounters a errant pothole on an otherwise previously pristine road, cuz like the cybertruck just instanteously levitates 2 inches within a fraction of a second..... Lol
This video told me nothing I didn’t already know from watching the We, Robot event.
Also, if FSD literally gives you the same functionality as a Cyber Cab while also giving you a backup should FSD malfunction, why would anyone buy a Cyber Cab. If technology has taught us anything, it’s that’s it’s never perfect 100% of the time. There are always bugs, glitches, patches, and fixes. The Cyber Cab basically makes it so that when (not if) that happens you’re basically stranded, whereas if FSD starts malfunctioning in your Model 3, you just turn it off, grab the steering wheel, and go on your merry way.
Should have been a 3 person front bench seat
Great video! Much more informative than anybody else’s who all tend to opine before even giving facts. Kudos!!!!
What happened was his stock pump event failed big time.
@@bobbybishop5662 do you think some investors are finally cautious that it’s a pump and dump scheme? Musk pays those who pump his stock well so it must a difficult to remain ethical
Alot of lies happened . Just like the cyber truck is gonna cost 40k then he sells them for 100k . If he says this robo taxi will cost 30k it will really cost 90k. He's already proved he doesn't tell the truth
How is that possible with a fully stuffed M3 being sold for 45k.
Now when you look at the robotaxi its clear that its cheaper to manufactur than a M3. How do you come up with the 90k price tag?
40k was for the single motor version which isn't even in production yet. The price will keep coming down as production ramps. AWD for 79k already provides a ton of value for the money. Probably why it already out sold all other EV trucks combined. That was before the 20k price drop.
@linemanap 79 k for a truck that can't do truck things is a great deal lol lol. The cybertruck is the least reliable vehicle in the country, it can't tow or off road . It's basically for you tube kids and pro sports stars. 79k for a truck that should cost 20k isn't a good deal at all man. To top that off you can't really own any tesla out of warranty not sure if you even know what good deal means cmon
@@user-rl4cc8dw5r I got the feeling you get your information from the wrong kind of youtube videos. Certainly not from talking to CT owners. Its actually the most versatile truck on the market and it will outlive many of its competitors. Time will tell that
There is this little thing called inflation where the government printed off Trillions making it impossible to sell at original prices.
Robovan VS Humps
The Cybercab's doors should open straight up. As it currently is, it would hit nearby vehicles. It might 'see' the offending obstructions, but even then, it would keep the passenger inside.
The Cybervan has its own issue. It needs to be able to raise automatically, or it'll be damaged with every bump or pothole.
The biggest issue preventing a commonplace cab system is the lack of charging. Many charging pads need to be installed in common areas to keep the vehicles in service, otherwise they will have a limited area to be used. I've heard some talk of charging pads installed in public roads, but that could be a minefield to get approved considering who pays for the electricity charges.
I thought doors that roll straight back like current minivans would be better. Simple design and already proven in large volume.
@@billweberx That would be good, but it would require more material and increase the weight, not to mention more apt to cause problems. Going straight up would be almost the same as it currently is, and yet not infringe on nearby items. You are less likely to have something above blocking that couldn't easily be avoided by 'seeing' it.
@@PaulADAigle Going straight up would require the same cost and materials as going straight back. In fact, it may cost less as you're not fighting gravity. It wouldn't have any more problems and it's already a proven design in use by millions of minivans. No vehicle has vertical doors. Seems they would interfere in a garage or any place with a low ceiling.
@@billweberx The slide on a van, for instance, is an additional cost, weight, and possible future damage. Depending on the design, it could infringe on airflow or interior space, although minimally. Going up would be exactly the same amount of mechanism that the current wing design has with similar height restrictions. In a garage, there may be a height limitation, but simple software could recognize that height limit, and still allow for transitioning in or out.
@@PaulADAigle How would you have the door go straight up without a slide? A hinge would have the doors go out and up like the current cybercab.
Is it the case that these autonomous driving cars are programmed to not hit pedestrians, which implies that muggers can easily stop your robotaxi by stepping in front of it?
The more complicated a contraption is, the more vulnerable they usually are to simple attacks. Take the Hi-tech Israeli defenses: their border defenses defeated by simple paragliders, and their Iron Shield defated by a surge of dumb rockets. The human driver controlling the vehicle is the most superior and verstatile to all unexpected scenarios.
Genuinely very useful! Thanks mate
200 miles makes me think the model 2 would have been about the same
Brings back thoughts of "West World" where nothing can go wrong, go wrong go wrong------
All automated robotic devices will give you THAT shot. And Asimov's Three Laws will NOT cover the real world.
Trapped in a taxi that is not near a charging station ... or waiting for a taxi while it heads for an inefficient inductive charge ? Yep, worse than West World because death will be slower.
Is the Cyber Cab the 25k Car that was in development?
No one's talking.
No.
Its model 2 without steering wheel
@@Renedue1967 No one knows what Model 2 is. It may not even exist at Tesla.
ive seen cybertruck fsd from Drity Tesla, and another. Pretty adapted and totally workable.
Look, im a Tesla Bull but I think its going to be ready more by 2035. Im talking about the 'flawless' end product. I do believe by 2030/2032 we'll get the network and the cheaper model but it wont be until 2035 it will be perfect.
Unrealistic not to mention the rain and the snow.
really wish it had a wheel and pedal bc I would forsure buy this as my daily commuter
You’re a little late to the party on this
I think Elon forgot that the audian included peole that did not have this perspective of how they planned the presentation. Based on your intro tjis explains a lot in that Elon layed out an experience and most likely a lot of easter eggs for you to build out a picture of what the vision is for autononmy and the bot.
Very interesting way to presemnt fully utilising the hollywood set and the cars and bot and the fact that Elon let the team explain things in mode detail enable him to have a short pres and hive the 30k ft view.
I wish he would have explained this.
Or to be honest anyone else or the TH-camrs, u are the first that I have watched telling me this. Thanks.
You need ground clearance even in the city remember potholes
Maybe someone will reprise The Partridge Family tv show, but updated by using the new Tesla Robovan!
Uber and Lift preferred to use cars with 3 rows seats, so Tesla model X more fits for robotaxi.
9:43 hence why model S/X have been mapping road conditions for the past two years…
It being low I wonder how that plays with disabled people and elder
I need Tesla phone with starlink for Arizona off grid
Watching movies during a ride... more likely comercials only or will there be specially condensed movies if the ride is less than hour and half? Passangers will start loving thraffic jams just to finish watching ( on the way 0:01 to work?)
8:32 The most efficient methods of transport cost too much and aren't safe and sustainable? What is the Tesla marketing team smoking? And their solution is "bus, but worse". Unbelievable.
For the WestWorld fans, did anyone else think Elon’s pronunciation of Robovan rhymed with “Rehoboam” ??
For context, Rehoboam is an artificial super-intelligence (that could predict the future) seen in the latter half of the HBO series, WestWorld.
Could also be "The Forbin Project" as well, mixed in with Will Smith in "I Robot". Resistance will be futile.
Good summary
Promises
hope they put the model x captian seats with ventilation and ambient lighting
Who do you hold responsible if the Robotaxi breaks a traffic law or gets in an accident?
The Robovan looks like the Batmobile from Batman TAS
I am very curious, is charger will be included with every car?
No, it will not be included. Seriously ? The car won't be 30k either.
No more custom sound systems, the end of aftermarket part suppliers?
Put a lot of companies out of business, and a lot of potential customers jobless, without the higher education or transitional skills for re employment.
Elon says the Cybercab will be available before 2027. That depends on what you mean by "available".
Autonomous Teslas were promised many years ago, and we're still waiting
There will be more "available information" about it in 2027
Before 2027, or maybe early 2028. 2029 at the latest. Honest.
@JonathanMorris777 definitely in the 2030s as an aspirational goal, FSD will be operational soon, and Teslas are appreciating assets...
If Elund says 2027 that means probably never.
More Splash Then Usual! It To Me Was Theater Then Actual Reveal!!!
Endless ad at the beginning. Not cool TH-cam, not cool!
QElon said a few years back we'd have 1 million robotaxis by 2020.
He also said a few years back that an electric car company could become successful, that people would like them, that cars could successfully drive themselves, that there could be reusable rockets that return and land...
But yeah, that was quite a burn you got in there. Puts him to shame.
...lol...
@akiramenai4973 I'm not sure tesla being on corporate welfare is being successful , man. Without government welfare, tesla hasn't made profit once in its history. Perhaps your not aware of what some of the words your using mean . Tesla is a proven scam kinda why their not growing . Ev account for 2 percent of the cars on the road the exact same as it did 5 years ago . In fact half of telsa sales are to exsisting customers not new ones food for thought. Pretty much 90 percent of what he says isn't true and it's just said to sell stock , this is a proven fact .
If these robocabs only cost $30k and available for anyone to hire out wouldn't there quickly be a glut of ride capacity in every city? I guess it would be good for people that can't afford cars but no one will make a profit if the supply isn't somehow limited.
Am I the only one worrying about the safety of the Robovan? Imagine a suv hitting the van from the side at 80 km/h. I don’t think it’s structural integrity will play along
What's the deal with the basketball at 12:33?
robovan can turn into rv bed, shops, stores, etc...
11:03 i guess 3 hours is a sum of both ways, A-B and B-A, 1.5h in one way is a common thing
I've been in 3 hour traffic in LA more than once. It was always one way going through the city.
Sure I need a TV infront of me because i don't look outside 😅 during a short trip to the restaurant. This is just so american and will only work there because there are no trains 😂😂😂
Its the Tesla control system since the beginning. They will never get rid of the center screen. How would you engage with the car then? Plastic buttons?
Those wing doors look cool, but how do they do in a parking lot?
Not relevant. You will go out of the taxi before it parks?
They don't park. Just pickup and drop off.
@@Dr.Schnabel 🤕
Elon now says the price will be under 30k after incentives, really not much cheaper than 3
The RoboVan reminds of the game Detroit : Become human.
This self driving Tesla (=EU Level 5 autonomy) won’t be available before 2030. Maybe 2035. It’s all Elon timeline. Where is the Roadster Elon? Is is delayed like 5 years ???
Everyone has a screen in the pocket. The one that called the cab. I see the huge cab's screen as a liability to get exposed to the average humanity care.
Tesla " GEEK Party " yes , I was hoping for T$LA detail as a Bag Holder . Looked More like an Inside Joke
My FREE ENERGY design will change the entire energy of the world, all calculations correspond to the laws of physics. And this Tesla will be charged from my installation
Bot. Or VERY young engineering student who believes in perpetual motion.
In 3 months probably, 6 months difinitely
Imagine ordering one and waking up to find that it drove itself to your house for delivery.
Imagine
Aerodynamics don’t effect city driving. Inductive charging is inefficient. Power operated doors are inefficient. Automatic cleaning is too complex to achieve. Robots were so clearly controlled by humans.
EDIT
Recently on X tesla account it was confirmed induction charging will have 90% efficiency - which is more efficient than wired charging.
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Aerodynamics always important for the life of a car - anytime going over 30mph.
Inductive charging requires no human intervention, can still be free (solar) - and "inefficiency" solvable.
Doors are perfect design for all people, including disabled.
Automatic cleaning backed with AI in 2025 will be piece if cake.
First iphone was not even a phone - some plastic case with fake buttons on glass. These robots were much above compared to iphone1 level vs production.
Oh, forgot to mention - how brilliant the design and function of doors are, self-closing, guaranteeing the robotaxi will go to the next clients even if the ones going out forgot them open.
You got everything wrong.
Tesla engineers are years ahead of any other brand.
@@geo5982 The level of ignorance from you is astonishing. Elon makes promises like these all the time and delivers 10% of time at best, and even that 5-10years over schedule. Engineers have to fix problems Elon makes and those projects and big reveals only exist to boost stock value, Elon very well knows he's lying, but has to appease share holders. Aerodynamics do absolutely nothing for city car. inductive charging inefficiency is not solvable there will always be lasses that will ad up. Elon has proven he doesn't understand that relying on cameras instead of lidar is a dumb mistake. Don't you know that tesla sells "full self driving" for $8,000 which cannot be used for full self driving? Sure, bud, suddenly Lawmakers mind will be changed by Elons genius aura and laws will magically change nation/world-wide to even allow these cars on roads in less than a year. Stop sucking Elons D in yt comments he will never read.
I agree with my level of ignorance. And yours.
I never believed electric cars were possible. Musk and his teams literally "forced" the entire planet to follow them.
I never believed a pencil shaped rocket can "land" to be reused. Musk and his teams did it. Nobody else did it. Not even governments, forget companies.
By the looks of it, whatever was "impossible" by world standards - even if later than planned - Musk and his teams proved the entire world wrong.
And he'll do the same with FSD, robotaxis and robots.
They all will happen.
It's just a matter of time.
@@geo5982 You didn't think electric cars were possible? So you don't know that first cars ever created were electric? Reason why everyone switched to ICE were range increase, ease of infrastructure and heavy, inefficient batteries...Only battery tech has improved since then.
" Musk and his teams literally "forced" the entire planet to follow them." that's a big NO. New regulations made entire planet to follow them, don't forget that Just few years ago Tesla stock was more valuable than all car companies combined while producing less than 1% of all cars. Stock was, and still is inflated based on Elons persona. Elon is terrible at manufacturing and engineering, but he's a genius at marketing, everyone followed tesla because of his outrageous futuristic promises, of which all fell flat. As soon as he released Flamethrower, Tesla tequila, etc. they all sold out instantly. Sold out not because those were good products, but because who made them - a likeable genius cool guy Elon.😂 it would be cringe for tesla company to fail with the amount of money they received. Back in 2016 it received 500k pr-orders for model Y for down payment of 1000$ per car to be in a waiting list, that's 500milion$ to create production line and start manufacturing for that model. Same for other models. With such influx of capital it would be cringe to fail such an relatively easy task.
"I never believed a pencil shaped rocket can "land" to be reused. Musk and his teams did it. Nobody else did it. Not even governments, forget companies." Well, I'm sorry to break it to you bet NASA achieved that back in 1993 with DC-X. Resons why reusable rockets were scrapped - lack of government funding, high maintenance costs and length of the maintenance. Also, at least at the time payload were more expensive than the rocket itself, So it was more viable for NASA to concentrate on the safety of the payload rather than reusability. The Space Shuttle was the world's first reusable space vehicle. The orbiter, its 3 main engines, and twin solid rocket boosters could be refurbished and flown again. More than 800 astronauts rode on 135 shuttle missions from 1981 to 2011.
I don't care about the Robotaxi itself, be it a reality or not...See Adam something's vid on the future of such transportation. No, what makes me smile is all the "Cost effective" measures that make this car look like...A car. Yes.
Musk is progressively discovering what a real car is. At the end of his life Teslas will be conventional cars, with conventional windows, with conventional doors, with conventional everything.
And Musk will showcase all this as "improvements" when the competition has caught up silently, and overtaken Tesla in almost all domains, including autonomous drive. 😆
the door opened. you got in 🙄
there is no way tje govt will ever permit cars to go around without wheels ande pedals
Nothing happened. I was a Musk Vaporware Event.
Regular buses have more clearance
So not only were there real people doing the voices of the robots. Real people were driving the cyber cab…😅😂
Nah
When the Telsa cars can autonomously bring folks to the event, from the airport of hotel, THEN it will be impressive. Otherwise this was Musk spending another 1.5 million at Warner Bros. Studio for temporary imaginary ride, no different than any other theme park. The pump and dump failed as the OP pointed out.
I sure hope no one hacks these new vehicles! (foreshadowing)
10/10 Was just another elon "Just you wait 5 years" announcement
and the Stock Market puked TSLA's guts out the next day
elon stop all the BS about "Just you wait 5 years" crap
Why am I e pectins to find a level 3 guild navigator to be in the cyberbus?
It's an Auto-Van
Parking in any normal parking lot besides other cars or garage.. ok so I'll just open my door.. oh
Bill Clinton could get one of these to ferry his 'girls' across state lines instead of using the cops. :)
wow, bet this car will sell out fast.... need mass production and parent lock codes
Hydrogen is hot on the heels
Yes, just like dilithium crystals
Cybercab its model 2, without steering wheel
Cybercab is stupid. Can't even transport more than two.
It's only a shame that these loos so bad. The concept cars from the 80s looked do much more futuristic and awesome.
2 Seater Robotaxi simply makes no sense...will not happen. Also the huge trunk...nonsense
Never going to happen! It's an Elon Musk promise, like all the others that never happened.
I seen concept cars like this in a lot of autoshows. Are they Road legal? No are they in production? No. Both concept cars with elon promises.
Seems people that count how cheap the CyberCab will be misd the point that people are even willing to pay a premium for such a taxi to get privacy, peace and no stress of having to deive yourself. Just as Elon said. You can go to work while eating that sandwich or catching up on the paperwork. That's worth an extra cost if there was one. Would anyone rather take a cowded and dirty downtown L.A. city bus with the homeless or some gang members/criminals?
Butterfly doors?? gone are the days we called them Lambo doors. have to be politically correct nowadays lol
I want a personal robo taxi
Personally I don't like the design. is NOT catered for people with disabilities or elderly people. seats are so low to the ground so it's harder to get in an out of, especially without any handles. They should have made it taller and 4 seats facing each other so there is room to put your cane/crutchers etc. and those DOORS? They stick out so far when fully opened. wouldn't they have learned from the model X those doors are silly and problematic? For a taxi, it should be a sliding door like on a minivan. FAR easier access in and out.
Just two seats is ridiculous. A LOT of people using robotaxis would be tourists with kids etc, but with two seats? If anything, have THREE seats in the front. the current seats are so wide you could fit there in there. They just designed this vehicle from the model 3. They should have made it like the robovan but 4 smaller with 4-6 seats
I guess you missed the fact that "90% of all city journeys are for 1 or 2 people"? And that the Master Plan includes people providing their larger cars for use as private hires in addition to the Cyber Cabs? If the Cyber Cab cost is a fraction of what the current cheapest option costs, four people would just get 2 cabs and still save money.
Same as every other Musk event. Lots of promises he will under deliver on. FSD next year as always.
The van it more like the one on irobot