Sub250 NanoFly16 1s // Indoor & Outdoor Flight // Drone Crashes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ส.ค. 2022
- It exciting to see what a company new to the FPV comes produces. And its a micro, you know I want to take a look too.
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That first section of inside flight was pretty cautious wasn't it? 😁 Don't want to get banned from my favorite flying spot.
What should we try to get Sub250 to make next? A 2inch 2s micro?? YES!!!
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A high kv 1s 2inch would do also for me. Or a 1s 2inch 23000kv 1002 with elrs and a decent camera :) but a 2inch 2s would also be awesome!
I like what they did with the Mob7 cini so that he footage could be recorded without having to carry an action cam even with analog 😃 it opens up so much potential 👍
My last dozen purchases have all been sub 250 quads!
And what's your favorite ?
HGLRC Petrel 6S or the GEPRC Phantom!
"I'm just gonna take it slow and steady indoors"
me watching the video: "i swear that's got to be like 15-20 mph during some of those lines"
amazing flying through and through. i hope my slow and steady can be as dope as yours one day.
Have fun, slow, moderate, fast, fancy tricks or otherwise.
I'm loving these tiny 1s quads more and more. Having a lot of fun with the firefly fr right now
Sick flight nick awsome little drone.
Incredible little flyer.
That indoor flight was very intense! 👍
Nice review Nick, I recently put together a 73mm frame quad with 1102 18000kv motors, 1610 Gemfan props, running a 450mah battery and a 12A AIO, I'm really surprised how well it flies on only 1s. It struggles a bit for torque in big dives, but it is a great backyard flyer. I'm so impressed with the Betaflight 4.3.1 features it means you can really get a lot out of these tiny quads. Thanks again for all these great videos that inspire us to get out(or stay in) and play.
Wow! Fantastic flying, Nick!!! 😮
This little quad seems to be fun as heck! 😂
Great review as always!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you MC, I hope your doing well
Came for the review, stayed for that indoor flying! Smooth for a 1S.
That indoor flight was amazing!
Great flying as always Nick ❤️🙏❤️🙏
Total beast
An other of these hyped build with disposable motor... 😢
I talked with this brand... What a bunch of jokers 😅
Happily I just received the lastest T-motor 1002 prototype, and they are 👌
I was thinking the same... they need 1002s!!
Thanks Nick! That's a kool little kwad!
such a awesome lookin quad i want one badly lol thanks for sharing Nick
Love your reviews!
Thank you. Appreciate the compliment.
muy buen video ! lindo droncillo
Amazing review Nick 👍🙏👍🙏
Thank you
I may need to look at those props a little more...👍🏻🍻👊🏻
Great rips, cool kwad, great vid
Thank you. Appreciate it.
Looks fun )
I like how clear the props are even if they cover a big surface
nice job. comment to keep analytics happy.
Thank you. I hope the analytics are happy :)
Nice Rip! This board & frame look great. I would vote with $$$ for a 2s2incher 🤞
I’ve had bent shafts using these particular hq prop bi blades coz they don’t fit fully over the shaft until the bell. I think it will be fine if they did.
I love when new companies come out the gate with sub250 quads😁 I like this lil ripper but I think for the price I would go with the flywoo firefly nano baby and get alot more fly time lol great review Nick👍🏾✌🏾
Doesn’t that one have the battery try that can hold a 450? We could do the same on the nanofly with a rubber band mod. I wonder what the flight time would be then.
@@NickBurnsFPV That would be a great idea to get some more flight outta that lil guy the firefly did hold a 450 and even up to 720 I think you got 10 minutes on a 720 😁
@@scu-dub That does sound right. But it was a truely slow cruise or even a eco flight. Just trying to see what max flight time could be.
Cool quad. Dude, you fly very well.
Thank you. Been flying a few years, it’s certainly fun
=w= nice video as always! Thank you for the content sir =w=
Thank you. Appreciate it!
Nice
Coool looking baby 🍼 drone ;)
Cool little drone! I suspect that with remote id more like this one will come to market.
Remotid does seem to be coming, micros for fpv freedom 😁
A good micro quad and nice see a new company. Still it's pretty expensive even by today's standards and the company has ony one product at this time.
Great review. I like the small open prop quads. This does remind me a bit of the flywoo firefly nano 1s baby which was ok. It did inspire me to convert my Mobula6 HD to a jacks 3d Deadbat frame and its evolution ended up being tons more fun than the flywoo. I would love to see a 2" 2s from Sub250. We need more prebuilt 2s 2" quads.
I am in their ear about a 2inch 2s. Fingers crossed someday someone will make one bnf.
@@NickBurnsFPV im building my own 2" quads. Its just nice to see bnf offerings for those that can't or do not want to build.
@@Soulsurferfpv agreed for sure.
Thanks for your nice review! This type of quads give me a lot of fun. But … still my modified UZ80 I believe, based on your video, is unbeaten in performance and flightime. So, waiting for your next new quad review, maybe the market offers something better.
What kind of flight times are you getting im so sick of 2 minute flight times on my whoop 75mm was the same so thinking of going 80
@@kieren7763 they're something wrong with your whoop, should be able to fly 4 to 10mn no problem...
Check my channel dude I have some tips for you 😉
@@kieren7763 UZ80 as I received it from China with following modifications:
- JESC software @48KHz to improve ESC performance
- Propeller biblade GEMFAN 2015-2 (take care: UZ80 has 1,5mm shaft!) - tried several other but with the named I get best performance/flighttime and are very silent.
Following modification, which cost flightime but increase confort:
- Caddx ANT Lite instead of Nano3
- LED and micro-beeper to find the quad
With ALL these modifications (including rubber band to attach battery: 24gram) and Tattu 1S 500mAh 95C V1 (I only use this bat, charged to 4,2V , landing at 3,0V) I get:
- Fast cruising (ANGLE): up to 8 minutes
- Powerflights (ACRO): up to 5 minutes
Lol the wife will flip with cuts in the lamp shades, i know.""" And the pool etc is looking sweet. Just don't crash in the pool like i have, and i burn up esc"s . Glad to see in elrs, and yes the whoopstar charger is awesome
Reminds me of my tks builds. I have definitely been cut a few times with those trying to fly indoors.
yes, tks has gotten some bigger ones now days. My oldest nicked our youngest a few years ago, just trying to hover one los. She still remembers when her brother "cut" her.
Fixed camera angle is a no from me as I change mine a lot! That said, it's wonderful to see a new manufacturer get so much right straight out of the gate. Thanks Nick!
#Motorpost2Motorpost
how can you get consistent while changing camera angle all the time? i'm impressed.
@@djSpinege camera angle for me is the same thing as speed. The more tilt, the faster I go. If I want to do close proximity, I reduce the camera and if I'm joining around somewhere I am familiar with, I tilt all the way.
@@moreluckthanjudgement8007 ahh i see, one quad to rule them all. thought you were saying you do micro adjustments after every flight lol. I got my freestyle quads at 20 and my racing quads at 45 so i'm used to the angles.
Cute little quad, and pretty sharp in the power blue. After discovering lower camera angle recently and vastly improving flights without crashing (Feel a bit silly for not cluing in sooner but whaadayadoo?), not having an adjustable camera angle is a shame but leaves room for a V2. Would love to see a 2", I really need to rip my Tinyhawk 2 FS, but the mobula6 is still my go to for now. Keep flying, thanks for the fun review (As always) and stay safe!
Adjustable camera angle can help us find our “happy spot”.
I just flew quads with whatever camera angle it came with until I met someone that pointed it out and it’s made such a huge difference. I went from a happy spot to the happiest spot I’ve been in for a while. This is an amazing hobby, thanks for helping to make it better!
You have to powerloop those chairs! 😁
The flat ones? or the taller ones at the circle table?
@@NickBurnsFPV 10:56, no trees above but the input/exit is a bit busy 🤔😁
That would be cool to fly this thing
Now that's how you fly a tiny whoop. I just ordered one thanks to your video, I wonder how it compares to the Mobeetle6? I have enjoyed it a lot in its whoop version, gonna have to try it in its toothpick version as well. Also do you know what FW does the ELRS come with? Thank you!
The ELRS version will likely be what is nearly current at the time it was manufactured. Is its purchased from a place that has old stock it could be version 2, if fresh stock likely version 3.
Nice one NB, do you think this AIO is the same one used in the T Motor mini quad you recently reviewed?
No the t motor didn’t have a built in vtx or Rx
Id love to buy this as a package
The day sub250 releases a drone over 250g would be supremely ironic 🙃
Lol surely the universe won’t let that happen
Wish these companies would listen about the adj cam angle... Looks like this company is listening to the gnb27 feedback at least.
Baby steps right? I expect they have more quads coming but I don’t know what they might be other than a micro…surely
Do you think the bi-blade props are the cause of the bobbles you had? I find that to be true on my micros but I am new to tuning.
I think it has more to do with the wind and slightly high determ values. It doesn’t air much of a breeze to upset these light nanos
Sitting here watching this cool review video and All of a sudden it hits me.... where did the playground set go?
Yes, it went away. It was rotting away and with all the other changes it did have to go. We have plans next spring to potentially change a bit more out in the yard I hope those changes give me some more interesting obstacles to fly around.
Funny how your "hesitant", "careful" indoor flying is still 10 times faster than what I do indoors with my prop guarded quad. 😀
hopefully funny as in smiles and laughs and no tears. :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Absolutely smiles and laughs! I use your videos an those of Tig Rollin as an inspiration. It's like watching a professional athlete playing hockey or soccer. I don't expect to ever reach your level of skill but it doesn't take anything away from the fun I'm having.
I'll keep my Flywoo nano firefly. They have 1 cell 750's and "up to 8 min flight time" (I've got just over 6) I think they weigh less too.
Good review as always, Nick. The Sub250 NanoFly16 in class 1S with 40mm propellers and a weight of 29.5g is too heavy. Others make lighter and more efficient models. What would I change after the purchase? I would remove the lipo mount on an elastic band and the canopy on a lighter one, about 1.5g and with camera angle adjustment. This should be about 3 g less. Which, unfortunately, still does not bring its weight closer to those of other manufacturers, which oscillate around 22-23g. So I'll be waiting for other better models.
Thank you for your assessment. I haven't flown for a long time but it just sounded and, from the footage, seemed HEAVY to me and ripe for some physical optimisation. It sounds like it needs larger props, had plenty of power but just shreds air loudly instead of transferring that energy into thrust/acceleration.
watch out with buying from this company! I bought from them and took 2 months to get to me. broke in 3 days, and never got a replacement
I had 0603 motors on a UR65. I attempted to remove the props when it came time to change them, and two of the 1mm shafts literally pulled off the motors! I have since installed 0802 motors and it flies way better! I have 5 whoops and have cut the bottoms off the battery trays and put Small straps on all of them! As anyone who flies the whoops knows, when the batteries swell as they all do eventually, the batteries will no longer fit. I would like to find some really small velcro straps as the ones that I have came with small quads and I am almost out of the straps!
We didn’t us 060x motors long. I wonder if they were just to small to hold together
iflight makes some and they're on Amazon. Great quality and nice and small. I've got a dozen or so.
@@NickBurnsFPV we still using them as they all were 0703 😉
I ordered on banggood tiny straps from uruav 10*88 tiny whoop straps they will work great.
Hello Sir, This isn't about the Sub250 quad but, I was hoping you could help me with a problem. I just bought the Happymodel Crux 35 analog and everytime it has been in the air it seems like the flight controller freaks out. I will do a punch out over the house and nose down on the way back down so I can pull out before hitting the ground. As soon as the quad is looking at the groung it spazzes out and starts spinning (Yaw axis) uncontrollably and smacks the ground. Do you have any idea what would cause this? Have I just gotten a bad quad? Any help will be very appreciated! Thank you.
Could be many things. One is air mode on? This keeps the props spinning when at zero throttle and stabilizes the quad. Could be esc desync, this can sometimes be solved with an increase in startup power or pid tune, could be a faulty motor, or faulty esc.
Hi Nick. 0803 is great, but no Double Ball Bearings? And 1mm Shaft? 29.5g Dry Weight? Why?
I don't believer there is a 080x motor with double ball bearings. That starts at 100x motor size.
Look good, I like the form factor, but I think I will stick to my NanoPick.
What size props on the nanopick?
@@NickBurnsFPV 40mm props. Motor post to motor post is 65 mm. 21.7g
hi Nick, wanted to ask you if you have any minds on the elrs SPI receivers for whoops, as Bryan Mayland (elrs dev) said "Do not buy SPI-based ExpressLRS gear." due to they wont be well supported as ELRS 3.0 releases. Do you think it still worth it or any other thoughts?
Well we don’t full know if there is going to be a feature in elrs v3 that we HAVE to have. That is a big factor. There is also the possibility that elrs v3 is compatible with elrs v2. For me elrs v2 works great and I will likely stay on v2 unless there becomes a major feature I need or a bug that causes flight failure.
I've heard that too, and if the developer of ELRS said it, I'm doing it. SPI isn't the way to go right now. I know I've avoided several AIO boards with ELRS SPI because I don't want them to be obsolete right away. Too expensive for that!
Since the pricing is reasonable, I have 2 modules. One that will be upgraded with normal receivers and one to stay with whatever version supports spis.
Those motors look sick
They do look very clean right? And I can’t argue with their color choice 🤣
@@NickBurnsFPV you and the color blue! Haahaa! 😎
@@KOrnhOliO1 lol. you should see my closet. Well yall kinda have. 😆
that ELRS antenna looks a little exposed and vulnerable just thinking the canopy is a little too slim.
It is slightly exposed if we tumble through a tree or come down upside down on rocks. The risk should be fairly low as the cube is super small and the overall weight is low
Looks pretty cool I saw it on Instagram looks cool
They did a nice job hitting the market with a super tiny nano
@@NickBurnsFPV i only have a 5in quad would you recommend this for my first nano?
@@ACodeGaming No, get one that does 2s, cuz if this one did 1s and 2s, you'd only fly it on 2s, believe me! No comparison in performance.
Both T-motor with yesterday's quad and this new company made a huge mistake making them only 1s! And, $150+ for 1s only... Forgit bout it! 😮🙄
@@KOrnhOliO1 thanks my dude is there a 2s you recommend?
@@ACodeGaming It depends. Are you pretty comfortable flying the 5inch? What kind of flying space do you want to fly the nano in?
Could you imagine a real estate agent using speed tour videos to show the houses..
lol, for the most impatient of house shoppers.
what goggles do you use
I use the hdzero goggles now. At the time of this video I was using the orqa v1 goggles.
i adjusted the camera angle with a gromet between the frane and housing on the front screw...
If I am thinking correctly that moves the canopy vertically to increase camera angle? Or am I way off?
How awesome would it be, if we came to find out that Nick is an underground cage fighter? And his cage fighting name is Sick Burns! Do NOT pull the thread on his couch cushion, lest you want to meet Mr. Sick Burns!
oh my. No underground cage or otherwise fighting for me. I suspect I am far to fragile, even in my age division. I might have to feature a sweater on a video this winter. :)
+1👍
This one or the flywoo firefly 1s fr?
Its hard for me to gauge that for someone else. It will depend on each viewer and what features and flight style is preferred.
keren
Why Karen?
Good job
@John G Ah, that must be a very specific translation. BTW, my mom's name is Karen. I feel bad for all the normie Karens.
@@DUNIADINO55 Oh shoot, until this moment I thought it was Karen, like my nasty lady meme and my mom's name. Not as its typed Keren. Sheesh, need to get my eyes checked.
I'd say it's way too heavy for a drone of this size. Carbon frame is a bit of an overkill to me. Tiny whoops these days are sub 20g with prop guards. I think plastic frame would be much better in terms of cost and weight, which would work with better flight time. An argument that carbon frames are more durable doesn't speak to me. These things weighting 20 grams rarely break at all, and even if the frame breaks, you can just simply buy one for like 5$...
Carbon comes in handy when our performance reaches the limit of plastics holding the motors "static" during quicker maneuvers. Flying a 3dprinted frame can often be a challenge to tune and fly very aggressively due to the motor/prop movement in space.
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Not put it in your head or anything, but a flat screen tv takes VERY little impact to break. Ask me how I know.
Yea I have been very fortunate, no breaks or damage to the house or items. I wouldn’t want to be there when a tv did take damage 🤦♂️
When i saw the price i was like O_O
no zip tie on the power cord
Oh shoot I forgot that item didn’t I.
Looks like a fun little setup!
Would you pay over $150 for a 1s only cruiser?
@@KOrnhOliO1 Nope, but it still looks fun. If I was going to spend that much I'd pick the parts and build something myself.
@@sixtofive Agreed! too much dough! 💰💰💰💸💸💸😕
Giant house to fly inside of, not included..
Not first
Not last either 😁
I fly 450 no problem get almost 4 minutes 😊😊
Looks decent, but I like my mobeetle6 with the carbon fiber frame and 400mw VTX, also I can strap a 450 on it. Great review as always, thanks 🙏
It's that the Fractal engineering frame?
@@KOrnhOliO1 no it's the one that comes with it, comes with the whoop frame and a toothpick frame. It really is amazing with a 450 I can fly 6-7min
@@PakRC I forgot it came with a carbon fiber frame! Too many quads with sooo close of a name! lol
Hey bud, Your mic’s decibel cut off is set too low
Hey Nick! Have you tried the fractal75?
Would love to see what you think of it given that you like the mobula7!😁
Great vid this one! Open props indoors!! didn't see that coming😅
Firefly or this???
Hmm, I think this. It’s a bit more cleanly built and has a better camera and vtx. Although the firefly uses a separate Rx, so that is a slight advantage if one wants to use the latest elrs versions all the time
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you!
Neither! Make sure it does 2s! No comparison. 😎🤘
that is wayy more power than i expected. flies like the 2s 50g quads from 2-3 yrs ago. you 'can' fly inside...just don't :)
I know hypocrite right ? 🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️
@@NickBurnsFPV just crazy
IDK... this 1s like a 2s? Hard to imagine that's true as 2s gives a small quad so much more punch and less battery sag. This is just like yesterday's 1s... A cruiser. I have tiny 2s quads that will literally run circles around this one! Heck, my newly built 2s DJI 75mm carbon fiber framed digital quad will run circles around this even though it's a little heavier.
It's really hard for me to get excited about these last two reviews because:
1. They're 1s only. Limits performance so much when compared to 2s. If they were 1s and 2s, let me tell you right now, you'd only fly it 2s, because 1s just wouldn't do it for you. 🤷
2. It's analog. People still buy this stuff when digital is all around us from multiple manufacturers now? I promised myself about a year ago to never spend another dime on analog - anything. I've got analog quads laying around all over just collecting dust! Once you go digital, it's really hard to get excited about flying analog. 👍
3. It's so much dough! 💰💰💰 For just a few bucks more as a PNP, and a few bucks less with Crossfire, I can buy a Caddx Vista with a Nebula Pro Nano and convert one of my " dust collectors" (analog quads) into digital and have that ultra clear picture it's hard to stray from!
When a brand new company comes into the FPV market right now, and produces analog quads, they certainly have a short life expectancy (as does analog), and I don't think they're very smart. 😂🥴
Nice review Nick, they'll sell a few, I'm sure, but at over $150 for a 1s cruiser, I can't see many paying that much for so little. I don't think the analog only guys will lay out that much dough for something this limiting. Live and learn, I guess. 😎🤘
0803 performance motor might be useful with bigger 450mah and GF1636 bi-blade mod.
GF1610s exist and I use them, a lot, no point cutting up 4-blades anymore.
And I agree… love that prop so much!
pretty dam expensive
Thrust lumps could very well be related to ducted/protected quads from the prop combo overcoming the duct inefficiency. Possibly why this seemed more smooth/stable...I fly my Mob6 ductless with 40mm 2blades and it seems much smoother than the original ducted setup.
Don't you think if it were a result of the duct it would be consistent? The ducting is ever present. The 0803 is better at carrying more weight, but we don't see 0803 all that often these days.
Remember when prices were nicer?
Yea I do. Gas is coming back down but not much else. With our backyard projects wood prices have really been a tough barrier to the project plans.
no prop guard flying inside is to risky for me. Nice little drone, but I would fly this outside in the backyard, and of course I would just solder for the type of batteries I have.
Yes I suspect most would fly it outside as I did for all but that one flight.
Those 350 size gnb packs have always underperformed. Low C ratings and lots of sag in all of them that I've tried. 1s 2s & 3s. Better to go 300 or 450 depending on what you're flying.
I am hearing the gnb 380s perform better, can you confirm?
@@NickBurnsFPV I've heard that as well, but haven't tried any personally. For the smaller stuff it's usually either 333 tiny whoop, or 300 nitro nectar batteries.
@@NickBurnsFPV I have both of them and the thin purple 380 outperform the green 350 by a lot!
@@haustiersteinfpv9181 Good to know. Thank you. I need to get some with the gnb27. Off to spend money 😁
I don't know what he was saying but it sounded cool and professional. I really do wanna get into fpv though
are my headphones damaged, or is your mic volume much lower in this video?
nevermind, it was my headphones.
lol. I try to be consistent. Thank you for the follow up. I would have been worried.
seament
we got a whole tour of this dudes house except for upstairs. someone has secrets upstairs
There are videos of the upstairs too. It just not as fun to fly
lmao regulation is how you turn a $35 toy into hobby prices. What a con.
Was this ever $35? I mean the same specs? Not talking about toy drones of the same size.