Great review. Neat little quads. I wish battery connectors for these would settle on one. Glad I didn't get any GNB27's. Good to see Flywoo following up with improved PIDs, too many products stop any sorts of imporvement once the first unit ships. As always, love watching you abuse new stuff and your recomendations/tips. Happy early Father's day!
The deadcat v1 analog was the first drone I ever purchased, and the one I started flying with outdoors, up until it took one too many crashes in the snow and had to be retired. I pretty much had no choice but to get the v2 (in HDZero of course) and I absolutely love it. Definitely could use an improved PID tune, as I do get a lot of shakes when flying in certain ways. That being said, I *love* tree surfing with this lil thing, it's great for going along the branches and sneaking through all the little holes and spaces you discover as you go along.
Surely they will post the new pids on the website soon. If they don't have them up by the time I make my follow up I will link them in the video description.
Hey! I've been waiting for this one. Thanks, Nick! Edit: Would definitely like to see the new PIDs. I recall the last DC version having really incredible flight time - surprised to see such a change here.
Thanks for this video about these interesting micros and special thanks for being so thorough with your reviews. Really looking forward to the update on the freestyle version with tri-blades.
They finally have sweet freestyle micros right after I finallly invested in digital! 😂 I'm glad we're getting cool stuff in all areas of fpv now! It's definitely the best hobby on the planet and I'm grateful for all the options and ability fpr anyone to get into it. It's expensive nowadays but the gear is much better than it was a couple years ago!
Wife bought me the fr16 v2 nano baby for Father’s Day from RDQ, was hoping Eddie at Avant or Avion would have had the new 3.5 released that he’s been testing, but I think I’m gonna love this lil guy.
I still have a UR65 that struggled to get two minutes on a battery even when the battery was new! I have since upgraded from 0603 motors to 0802 motors due to the fact that when I attempted to change props on the 603 motors, three of the four shafts came off with the props. The 0802 motors and a 450mah battery now give 4 minutes of flight time even though it is a little heavy!
Hi Nick, I heard your "complains" on 1002, but you need to take in count that all those made by RCinpower (Flywoo/sub250/HGLRC) use flat magnet, and this is a bad choice for flight caracteristic and efficiency... Just compare them with some HM, the difference should be pretty obvious (but yes HM 1002 aren't durable for a non ducted motor...)
I have had really great flight times with HDZero on 45mm bi blades and a 1s 85mm hdzero build I managed to get down to 33.6g so far without sacrificing durability. Both get around 5 minutes practicing power loops indoors for most of that time. I originally intended to try and build a 2s setup with 200 - 300mah batterites wired in series but I find the 1s works well enough for indoors if you get the weight right. I really wish 1s with flywoo 1002 15,500kv had just a little more power as it would be perfect for 1s indoor and 2s outdoor but to get any meaningful power out of 1s you need at least 20,000kv and a light build out or 22,000kv+ on heavier builds.
You might have invented a move........You've done this little swoopy reverse thing around one of the three trees closest to your cabana a few times now. It looks really cool!
lol. Not sure how that all came about, maybe a failed trippy spin :) this one was more challenging to do, I think due to the camera angle and my normal camera angle being higher.
Amazing flying and review, Nick! 😃 Father's day is a few months ahead here in Brazil, but yesterday was my 45 years birthday, so... Yeah, we ate a cake. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
You can run 45mm props on the Analog version (at least with the newest model with the Goku F405 ERVT 12A FC), no cables to cut. I was looking around for the "new PIDs" but I assume they are shipped on it, if I have the latest model (bought a couple weeks ago). I've been loving it, but I found that the bundled 1609 props would spin off in flight with a sharp maneuver. I had a spare set of 45mm GF props (from my Meteor75 Pro?). I bought some more and they've have been working great. Good to know they won't work on the HD version, tho.
Nick. I built a similar set up with 0802 as suggested by your video, felt anemic. 1002 motors with Gemfan 2015 is the best combo. I just built similar set up with the new 1003 motors, this blew me away! felt more like an 1102, was able to handle 2023 propellers very well, it even flew well with 2.5 propellers. You may wanna try them on your rocket set up.
hmm. I have not had a similar experience. 1002 motors I have tested, in my opinion, could only effectively handle up to 2inch biblades effectively. Maybe you have found a especially good 1002 motor or have and esc config working well in these configurations. I have also tried 51mm props but having difficulty tuning out excessive prop wash.
Very good review! I would like to ask a few questions pls. 1. I got Radiomaster Boxer and will it be compatible with this ELRS version drone or it might be made to be compatible? 2. I see there are 450 nad 750 batteries of flywoo - and what the difference in weight(you didn't put on the scale the 450 one) and fly time between the two? Which one would you suggest? 3. Is frame and/or canopy is enough durable or should i purchase 1 extra from start so i don't wait/nofly while waiting for new one if 1st breaks?
Hi thank you! To solve the issue of 45mm props on the orange quad cutting cables, can you maybe mount the fc upside down (i.e. rotate it on the pitch axis by 180 degs)?
We might be able to do that, but the clearance is still going to be closer than I am comfortable with. I worry about the carbon flex on sudden or high throttle moves.
Great review. I can't help but think that these 1s Nano FR/DC 16 are smaller versions of the 2s version which is not selling well. Happymodel Mobula7/Moblite7 are still king in the same price range because having owned a 1s Nano Baby Firefly, flywoos are less durable compared to the Mobula tiny whoops. I am actually considering trying this 1s Nano FR16 frame with the Mobula8 X12 lite AIO, but not sure if the clearance of the USB plug is enough on the X12 AIO to fit the 1s Nano FR16 frame. Spare replacement parts seem more easily available especially in Europe with HappyModel tiny whoops also.
I just got one of these analog. I have only been flying FPV for 2-3 weeks and this is my second FPV quad. I started with the Meteor65 which I love and it has no problems. The issue I am having with Nano Baby is when I drop quickly almost straight down it can start trembling. Is that what you call "wash out"? I really wish it wouldn't do that.
I presume your dropping down with the quad flat? If so we tend to call that prop wash and honestly its going to happen on most fpv quads to some degree. The issue is we are flying straight down in the air disturbed by the props already, so the props are flying through what we call dirty air. To descend smoothly we need to use some forward and nose/pitch down.
@@NickBurnsFPV Exactly. It is when I drop flat, which I do quite a bit as I am always catching myself from going faster than I am comfortable. I am going to try upping the damping in BF which they had set at 1.25 hoping that makes it a little smoother while I am still learning. I am having a blast flying a little every day. You and other youtubers have helped me a lot with your informative videos!
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the Flywoo Nano baby V2, I can't wait to fly one. I like both, but I don't know what one to get. Unfortunately I think both is going to be unable to change camera angle without doing some cutting. I will always be flying analog. Thanks again for the video and information about these quads.
I live in the mid western US. The pool was expensive, we got a good deal as the company that put it in we are friends with the owner/operator. My wife and kids had been wanting a pool for 10 years. I finally relented. :)
I keep saying "no more analog quads" but this one has been a lot of fun. I picked up it with the idea that I'll use it with ProWhooper Freestyle Bootcamp.
azi props are fairly tough for being super light weight, they do break after a few crashes but they do hold up decent and they fly so great, my fav 40mm prop i wont buy anything else unless i cant get the azi's
Generally no. When I review the changes I make are to put the osd elements where I like to have them, I input the rates I use and set the radio switches to the arming and different flight modes. All other aspects will be as the manufacturer set them.
I have question. What if we raise the board of the walksnail a bit with some rubberized, could that then be able to fit 45mm prop? Just thinking of buying this one and also want to put a 45Mm
I really can't answer that question. Something I didn't try. In general its very very rare a quad would be designed and then run a smaller prop than it can.
Hello! (It's my first drone) I just bought this drone from flywoo, I also bought the generic "DMKR 008PRO" ones and I was flying it today. The signal from the glasses wasn't the best, I'd like to know if it's the drone or just the glasses. The first two batteries were working perfectly, on the third battery it was impossible to fly. I was afraid that the drone was overheating or the glasses were very bad. Do you have any idea what could be happening? Could you recommend another analog goggles that I could buy?
There is much to be detailed about your equipment and environment. I suggest watching my video on video reception here th-cam.com/video/IEZKtWkeELQ/w-d-xo.html
Ok, so, since micros are evolving in many ways, as you've mentioned. Which micro is a good suggestion for someone like me who wants to mainly cruise around outside with the ocational punch out? I'd rather stay in the 1s and best analog quality. I know I'll pick tbs receiver for long-range
off the top of my head something like the happymodel crux3 1s, or the hx115 from betafpv. These are 3inch propped quads which will get more flight time, at the expense of size. I am making the presumption that flight time is more important than size here. For me I prefer the smaller size of this "DraShark" as well as others like it.
@NickBurnsFPV Thank you for your kind answer, I'm a truck driver, and I prefer to go unnoticed, so I think that the drashark might be a better choice (small size) i mainly wanna fly around the truck stops and in between trucks and do punch outs to see all trucks from up above. Hope to see an updated video from you when it comes to the "best" micros of this year, although it might be best to wait til the end of the year, bc we're barely half way. Thank you, Nick!
Great info on these fun looking quads, I thought about dropping a hint for one of these to the kids for falther's day. But I just happened to see a huge price drop on the TCMMRC Kun65 on Amaz0n and couldn't resist it. What you said about motor size was interesting. I have a relevant question about that when you get a minute I'm in the process of resurrecting a Mobula7 (on meteor75 pro frame) that got pretty busted up, and I ruined the camera on. I'm putting a Runcam Nano3 split 255 on it *and* making it a pusher(proof of concept tinkering basically😀). I have a feeling its going to be on the heavy side. I want to use 45mm props but debating on using the RS0802 20000kv motors from the Mobula7 or some 1102 18000kv Betafpv motors? Obviously I don't know what I'm doing and it will probably fly like a turd, but I just want to see if I can do it. Thanks for any advice.
Hey nick, Im looking for a new mivro drone. What micro drone would you recommend for under or around 150 bucks that is the best drone? Good flight times, Good performance, Good analog video quality. I wouldnt be flying any crazy freestyle, at most maybe a punch out to a dive. Noise isnt an issue and the drone would be flown in an outdoor space. If you could recommend one that would be great. Thx.
@@NickBurnsFPV Wow, i cant believe youtube never gave me a notification for this. Usally it works. As an update, I bought the Nano Baby V2 analog and my only regret is not going all out on a digital version with goggles. It flys amazing and with 750mah batteries and my flight style, im easily getting 6 min+ per battery.
Hello, can I buy the analog firefly with the idea of going digital later and simply put the digital system on it? or it is not possible because of the controller, among other things...
Tried flashing multiple times with and without binding phrase. No matter what it always just slow blinked and never even went to Wi-Fi. Flywoo never responded. Installed an external ELRS with a ceramic antenna since Flywoo customer support was non-existent.
Hello, I broke my firefly 1s frame, which one would you recommend switching the hardware too ? It doesn't have to be the exact same size, and I'm using it with hdzero thank you !
Hey nick I need advice. I bought the tiny hawk 3. Ran great for 2 weeks. Now it will randomly pitch to the left and crash with no control at all. It keeps happening and I can't fly it at all. Any ideas? Couldn't find anything online
Some times its fly okay for like 30 seconds and then it randomly rolls to the right and dive bombs. Now its to the point where ill arm it and it just flips right over
@@maverickdorgan2843 has it always done this? Did it start after a change or crash? It nearly sounds like an esc desync, but its always hard to tell without seeing.
@@metalfpv For most its either safety or just a love for the whoop form. Overall any quad with prop protection will not fly as well as those without prop protection.
HD Zero almost doubles the price! Darn ridiculous! I purchased the HD Zero system when it was new and had thought it would come down in price. It never did!
with RID around the corner I am looking at sub 250 even more. Karen is also a little less aggressive when they see that you are lighter than a sparrow. plus, I dont worry that I might hurt someone if I failsafe/crash with 1s. People still think you are spying on them, and dont realize they arent interesting enough to spy on.
We tend to be overwhelmed with negativity in the news media and socials, skews people to thinking pervs are everywhere and if you don't like something your somehow a victim of it/something. Shame, we can't just go out and enjoy the day regardless of our activities.
Just think. As of September 16 2023.RemoteID kicks in. Here's one. If you fly say a Whoop and post the video of the flight on your TH-cam channel. You will need a RemoteID Module on that little tiny Whoop. Fun days are coming. A lot of TH-cam FPV channel;s will go away.
I kinda get tired of these manufacturers coming out with these BNF drones with all of these mistakes that could have been either designed better or improved on. These are yet two more like that. I think we need to realize we can build a similar quad that is so much better than what any of the manufacturers come up with. Use a better canopy with fully adjustable tilt for our camera. Picking a frame that fits those 45mm props, etc. Seems these BNF's are always a compromise! 🤷 Another thing... If you are getting 7 - 10 minute flights - YOU ARE USING TOO BIG OF A BATTERY ON THESE TINY 1S QUADS! Performance is much less, than if you just expected to get 3 - 5 minutes a flight, but you get so much better performance because your lipo is so much lighter weight! Just change your lipo more often and reap the benefits of a proper weight lipo. These aren't supposed to get long flight times, they are supposed to get high performance and 3-5 minute flights. Understand, getting long flights is killing your performance! And, long flights is a NEWBIE THING and we need to ignore. The Newbies that constantly bring up "how long of a flight did you get?" Kinda Newbie questions. As I mentioned, we are used to getting 3 minute flights, and pretty much anything longer than a minute of so longer than that and you are using too heavy of a battery. IT'S A FRIGGIN' 1S! 🤦 Bottom line: Build your own, get camera angle adjustability, use 45mm props, etc, etc... All the things Nick mentioned you can achieve by building it yourself! Use proper lipos to get good flight times but not double weight lipos to get long flights compromised by the super heavy weight of your huge lipo! Just like whoops, these micros aren't about long flights, they're about getting the weight as low as possible to get great spirited performance. RIP IT! 🤘 Well, unless you like flying heavy barge?! Lol Best of luck! 😎🤘
It does sometimes surprise me how much other look at long flight time, at least the verbal section of FPV. I have had a few that won't by an fpv drone until it can get at least 10 minutes of flight. I suspect many of those are either coming from camera drones or haven't been around long enough to develop much of a flight envelope.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes, they're coming from camera drones...and those don't have a choice of batteries...just the one that's made for it. We need to help these uneducated Newbies - Help them understand that with FPV drones we have a choice of battery sizes. Help them ESPECIALLY UNDERSTAND that long flight times equal lower performance - lower to the point of sluggish response and the "Flying Barge Syndrome!" They are simply new to the hobby and don't know any better. We have to educate them TO KNOW BETTER. They need to learn that long flight time isn't "really" a thing with micro drones. With camera drones, they can't afford to purchase many batteries because they charge about $100 each! With micro drones we can buy several dozen batteries if we want to. They need to be taught that 3 - 4 minutes is normal and ultra lightweight batteries is THE BEST! It improves performance, as you know, and gives us the performance that is normal for FPV drones. We simply take one battery out and pop a new charged battery in and take off and fly again. OR, RIP AGAIN! Because the micro performs awesome cuz the battery isn't making IT FEEL LIKE FLYING A HEAVY BARGE! You, my friend, are just the guy to teach these nubile FPV pilots! BURNS KNOWS BEST! LOL But, no offense, you've got to quit making it seem like a 10 minute flight time is a good thing. It's not! Because you and I both know that battery is way, WAY TOO HEAVY! All Micros should use between a 260mah and a 380mah lipo. Remember what you recommend for a 2S? That little Turnigy 2S 300mah that I went out and bought a slug of because they are the best! You know,.I've never even owned a1S bigger than 380mah?! Seriously, I've never even bought a 450mah 1S - TOO DAMN HEAVY when that same micro can easily fly on a 300mah 1S and perform way better. "It's all about weight with micros/whoops!" ,,, and more lipos is the way to go intead of BIG ONES! :)
@@NickBurnsFPV For what it's worth, the appeal for me isn't to recreate a camera drone. I liked the V1 so much because that 7 - 8 minute flight time led to a sort of mini-explorer that could always be in your bag. At a moment's notice, you could be buzzing grass level across whatever cool place you found. If you managed to lose it forever, you were out maybe $130. Just a ton of fun. I absolutely get making a 3 - 4 minute freestyle machine, but I'll miss having this option now that the original has been replaced. I guess I'll have to try to just recreate it myself? I've never built a micro but I don't see why that shouldn't be doable. As always - thanks for you content!
@@barneyfromblueshift yes true. I think we can make something to fit your needs base the build on the nano baby and use somewhat lower kv motors that are 0802
Hey all. Added note. The A30 is compatible with the BT2.0 connection. GNB27 batteries will not plug into the A30 connection.
I just scrolled down to the comments to mention exactly this haha, glad you said it Nick. All hail the A30 connector!
What is the bind procedure with this quad? I just purchased it and am having trouble binding. I have the ELRS analog version
The A30 batteries don't make reliable connection to the BT2.0 connectors on my WhoopStor v3 so I'm guessing the pins on BT2.0 are slightly thinner.
@@MartinezJayson Interesting, my whoopstor3 has worked normally with A30. I do use an adapter when using it to charge GNB27 batteries.
@@NickBurnsFPV hi, do you prefer hglrc drashark or this flywoo ?
Thanks a lot.
Happy Father's day to you Nick and to all the fathers out there
Great review. Neat little quads. I wish battery connectors for these would settle on one. Glad I didn't get any GNB27's. Good to see Flywoo following up with improved PIDs, too many products stop any sorts of imporvement once the first unit ships. As always, love watching you abuse new stuff and your recomendations/tips. Happy early Father's day!
The deadcat v1 analog was the first drone I ever purchased, and the one I started flying with outdoors, up until it took one too many crashes in the snow and had to be retired. I pretty much had no choice but to get the v2 (in HDZero of course) and I absolutely love it. Definitely could use an improved PID tune, as I do get a lot of shakes when flying in certain ways. That being said, I *love* tree surfing with this lil thing, it's great for going along the branches and sneaking through all the little holes and spaces you discover as you go along.
Surely they will post the new pids on the website soon. If they don't have them up by the time I make my follow up I will link them in the video description.
Hey! I've been waiting for this one.
Thanks, Nick!
Edit: Would definitely like to see the new PIDs. I recall the last DC version having really incredible flight time - surprised to see such a change here.
Happy Father's day Nick have a great day.
I'm really glad you enjoy making these very helpful videos! Always a good watch! Happy Father's Day!!
Thanks for this video about these interesting micros and special thanks for being so thorough with your reviews. Really looking forward to the update on the freestyle version with tri-blades.
My pleasure.
Another nice video! Great little quads. I'm sure these will be appealing to those micro-quad lovers
They finally have sweet freestyle micros right after I finallly invested in digital! 😂 I'm glad we're getting cool stuff in all areas of fpv now! It's definitely the best hobby on the planet and I'm grateful for all the options and ability fpr anyone to get into it. It's expensive nowadays but the gear is much better than it was a couple years ago!
Wife bought me the fr16 v2 nano baby for Father’s Day from RDQ, was hoping Eddie at Avant or Avion would have had the new 3.5 released that he’s been testing, but I think I’m gonna love this lil guy.
You can actually use the bt2.0 connector with the a30
yes
some nice ripping Nick, going for it in the analog rig
I still have a UR65 that struggled to get two minutes on a battery even when the battery was new! I have since upgraded from 0603 motors to 0802 motors due to the fact that when I attempted to change props on the 603 motors, three of the four shafts came off with the props. The 0802 motors and a 450mah battery now give 4 minutes of flight time even though it is a little heavy!
Hi Nick,
I heard your "complains" on 1002, but you need to take in count that all those made by RCinpower (Flywoo/sub250/HGLRC) use flat magnet, and this is a bad choice for flight caracteristic and efficiency... Just compare them with some HM, the difference should be pretty obvious (but yes HM 1002 aren't durable for a non ducted motor...)
I like dont follow the hype well said. I rock both of them still have tons of fun with analog.
yep, we don't have to follow the hype or trends, its all about each one of us enjoying the hobby how we like to enjoy the hobby.
I have had really great flight times with HDZero on 45mm bi blades and a 1s 85mm hdzero build I managed to get down to 33.6g so far without sacrificing durability. Both get around 5 minutes practicing power loops indoors for most of that time. I originally intended to try and build a 2s setup with 200 - 300mah batterites wired in series but I find the 1s works well enough for indoors if you get the weight right. I really wish 1s with flywoo 1002 15,500kv had just a little more power as it would be perfect for 1s indoor and 2s outdoor but to get any meaningful power out of 1s you need at least 20,000kv and a light build out or 22,000kv+ on heavier builds.
Best gift for father lol
Our winds are ridiculous too, guess that's why they put a huge wind farm on the area 👀
You might have invented a move........You've done this little swoopy reverse thing around one of the three trees closest to your cabana a few times now. It looks really cool!
The Burnz Turnz!
lol. Not sure how that all came about, maybe a failed trippy spin :) this one was more challenging to do, I think due to the camera angle and my normal camera angle being higher.
Such a green lawn looks good
Thank you. We have a few concerning spots, but I am working on them ;)
your lawn is lookin good Nick 👌
Thank you. We have a few concerning spots and not all the sod behind the trees took, but overall I am very pleased.
Amazing flying and review, Nick! 😃
Father's day is a few months ahead here in Brazil, but yesterday was my 45 years birthday, so... Yeah, we ate a cake. 😬
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I didn't know father's day landed on different days. Good education moment for me. Happy belated birthday from little ole me. :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you very much! 😊
You can run 45mm props on the Analog version (at least with the newest model with the Goku F405 ERVT 12A FC), no cables to cut. I was looking around for the "new PIDs" but I assume they are shipped on it, if I have the latest model (bought a couple weeks ago). I've been loving it, but I found that the bundled 1609 props would spin off in flight with a sharp maneuver. I had a spare set of 45mm GF props (from my Meteor75 Pro?). I bought some more and they've have been working great. Good to know they won't work on the HD version, tho.
Happy Father’s Day Nick. Awesome review as well 👍🙏👍🙏
Nick. I built a similar set up with 0802 as suggested by your video, felt anemic. 1002 motors with Gemfan 2015 is the best combo. I just built similar set up with the new 1003 motors, this blew me away! felt more like an 1102, was able to handle 2023 propellers very well, it even flew well with 2.5 propellers. You may wanna try them on your rocket set up.
hmm. I have not had a similar experience. 1002 motors I have tested, in my opinion, could only effectively handle up to 2inch biblades effectively. Maybe you have found a especially good 1002 motor or have and esc config working well in these configurations. I have also tried 51mm props but having difficulty tuning out excessive prop wash.
Very good review! I would like to ask a few questions pls.
1. I got Radiomaster Boxer and will it be compatible with this ELRS version drone or it might be made to be compatible?
2. I see there are 450 nad 750 batteries of flywoo - and what the difference in weight(you didn't put on the scale the 450 one) and fly time between the two? Which one would you suggest?
3. Is frame and/or canopy is enough durable or should i purchase 1 extra from start so i don't wait/nofly while waiting for new one if 1st breaks?
Hi thank you! To solve the issue of 45mm props on the orange quad cutting cables, can you maybe mount the fc upside down (i.e. rotate it on the pitch axis by 180 degs)?
We might be able to do that, but the clearance is still going to be closer than I am comfortable with. I worry about the carbon flex on sudden or high throttle moves.
Excelente aporte! gracias feliz día del padre y miles de bendiciones
Great review. I can't help but think that these 1s Nano FR/DC 16 are smaller versions of the 2s version which is not selling well. Happymodel Mobula7/Moblite7 are still king in the same price range because having owned a 1s Nano Baby Firefly, flywoos are less durable compared to the Mobula tiny whoops. I am actually considering trying this 1s Nano FR16 frame with the Mobula8 X12 lite AIO, but not sure if the clearance of the USB plug is enough on the X12 AIO to fit the 1s Nano FR16 frame. Spare replacement parts seem more easily available especially in Europe with HappyModel tiny whoops also.
Can you use the beta FPV remote control with these drones from the Cetus X
I just got one of these analog. I have only been flying FPV for 2-3 weeks and this is my second FPV quad. I started with the Meteor65 which I love and it has no problems. The issue I am having with Nano Baby is when I drop quickly almost straight down it can start trembling. Is that what you call "wash out"? I really wish it wouldn't do that.
I presume your dropping down with the quad flat? If so we tend to call that prop wash and honestly its going to happen on most fpv quads to some degree. The issue is we are flying straight down in the air disturbed by the props already, so the props are flying through what we call dirty air. To descend smoothly we need to use some forward and nose/pitch down.
@@NickBurnsFPV Exactly. It is when I drop flat, which I do quite a bit as I am always catching myself from going faster than I am comfortable. I am going to try upping the damping in BF which they had set at 1.25 hoping that makes it a little smoother while I am still learning. I am having a blast flying a little every day. You and other youtubers have helped me a lot with your informative videos!
@@Bill_Bo as you get comfortable and your stick control becomes more 2nd nature it will be easier to descend.
nano babies are awesome
"stickeeerrrrrrr", edit made my day.
lol, nearly forgot to say it the way it must be said :)
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the Flywoo Nano baby V2, I can't wait to fly one. I like both, but I don't know what one to get. Unfortunately I think both is going to be unable to change camera angle without doing some cutting. I will always be flying analog. Thanks again for the video and information about these quads.
We so need to make sure all canopies camera angle adjustable.
I wanna know what where u live w a nice big yard like that an I like the in ground pool u had put in how much that set cost u as well nice . 😊
I live in the mid western US. The pool was expensive, we got a good deal as the company that put it in we are friends with the owner/operator. My wife and kids had been wanting a pool for 10 years. I finally relented. :)
I keep saying "no more analog quads" but this one has been a lot of fun. I picked up it with the idea that I'll use it with ProWhooper Freestyle Bootcamp.
azi props are fairly tough for being super light weight, they do break after a few crashes but they do hold up decent and they fly so great, my fav 40mm prop i wont buy anything else unless i cant get the azi's
I have flown the azi props a lot as well. I have used them on 2s whoops as well, but not without prop protection.
Do you use dynamic idle on this type of tiny drones, and on ducted tinywhoops?
Generally no. When I review the changes I make are to put the osd elements where I like to have them, I input the rates I use and set the radio switches to the arming and different flight modes. All other aspects will be as the manufacturer set them.
I have question. What if we raise the board of the walksnail a bit with some rubberized, could that then be able to fit 45mm prop? Just thinking of buying this one and also want to put a 45Mm
I really can't answer that question. Something I didn't try. In general its very very rare a quad would be designed and then run a smaller prop than it can.
Do you know if GNB is ditching the GNB connector in favor of this new one? I'm assuming so since I just switched GNB and the universe hates me.
Same boat. Just converted another 12 batteries and 4 quads to the 27 last week 😫. Oh welp
I would presume the gnb27 is going away at some point. Makes no sense to have two.
When are you going to review Mobula 8 o3, thanks for great reviews
When its final. I don't have any control of what or how drone companies go about their business.
If this was 2s and compatible w the 45mm props i think it would be a very compelling little quad.
Yes it would compete along side my favorite, 2inch 2s.
I agree with 0802
Hello! (It's my first drone) I just bought this drone from flywoo, I also bought the generic "DMKR 008PRO" ones and I was flying it today. The signal from the glasses wasn't the best, I'd like to know if it's the drone or just the glasses. The first two batteries were working perfectly, on the third battery it was impossible to fly. I was afraid that the drone was overheating or the glasses were very bad. Do you have any idea what could be happening? Could you recommend another analog goggles that I could buy?
There is much to be detailed about your equipment and environment. I suggest watching my video on video reception here th-cam.com/video/IEZKtWkeELQ/w-d-xo.html
Is the freestyle walksnail version still a good choice for a small backyard freestyle drone or can you recommend another...Even a small DJI verison ?
I don't think the dji video system is all that viable for freestyle flight below a 2inch propped quad.
@@NickBurnsFPV I agree. Leading me to fly the walksnail on smaller drones
@@TheHelicapt I think walksnail is more viable on a wider variety of micros.
How are you going to mount the remote ID module on this coming September?
Not required it’s sub250 grams
I ordered the new whoopstor. I'm excited to try it out
I use that as my primary 1s charger.
@@NickBurnsFPV I like that it can use a 4s to charge the batteries. Perfect for charging at work.
Can you connect the nanobaby 1s dc16 walksnail v2 drone (the orange one) with the eachine ev800d goggle Please i need an answer rn
no the ev800d goggles are analog and don't have hdmi input to use a walksnail vrx on.
Ok, so, since micros are evolving in many ways, as you've mentioned. Which micro is a good suggestion for someone like me who wants to mainly cruise around outside with the ocational punch out? I'd rather stay in the 1s and best analog quality. I know I'll pick tbs receiver for long-range
off the top of my head something like the happymodel crux3 1s, or the hx115 from betafpv. These are 3inch propped quads which will get more flight time, at the expense of size. I am making the presumption that flight time is more important than size here. For me I prefer the smaller size of this "DraShark" as well as others like it.
@NickBurnsFPV
Thank you for your kind answer, I'm a truck driver, and I prefer to go unnoticed, so I think that the drashark might be a better choice (small size) i mainly wanna fly around the truck stops and in between trucks and do punch outs to see all trucks from up above. Hope to see an updated video from you when it comes to the "best" micros of this year, although it might be best to wait til the end of the year, bc we're barely half way.
Thank you, Nick!
Great info on these fun looking quads, I thought about dropping a hint for one of these to the kids for falther's day. But I just happened to see a huge price drop on the TCMMRC Kun65 on Amaz0n and couldn't resist it.
What you said about motor size was interesting.
I have a relevant question about that when you get a minute
I'm in the process of resurrecting a Mobula7 (on meteor75 pro frame) that got pretty busted up, and I ruined the camera on. I'm putting a Runcam Nano3 split 255 on it *and* making it a pusher(proof of concept tinkering basically😀). I have a feeling its going to be on the heavy side. I want to use 45mm props but debating on using the RS0802 20000kv motors from the Mobula7 or some 1102 18000kv Betafpv motors?
Obviously I don't know what I'm doing and it will probably fly like a turd, but I just want to see if I can do it.
Thanks for any advice.
If the rest of the components and frame are going to lend it to the heavy side I would use 1102.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks a lot I really appreciate it!
I heve the v1.2 deadcat and i just don't know if i need to upgrade
Probably not. They should be fairly similar
Hey nick, Im looking for a new mivro drone. What micro drone would you recommend for under or around 150 bucks that is the best drone? Good flight times, Good performance, Good analog video quality. I wouldnt be flying any crazy freestyle, at most maybe a punch out to a dive. Noise isnt an issue and the drone would be flown in an outdoor space. If you could recommend one that would be great. Thx.
How small and what cell count of battery are you hoping to target?
@@NickBurnsFPV Wow, i cant believe youtube never gave me a notification for this. Usally it works. As an update, I bought the Nano Baby V2 analog and my only regret is not going all out on a digital version with goggles. It flys amazing and with 750mah batteries and my flight style, im easily getting 6 min+ per battery.
Hello, can I buy the analog firefly with the idea of going digital later and simply put the digital system on it? or it is not possible because of the controller, among other things...
It is possible to go from analog to digital. Digital will add a second later to the flight stack, just as if digital was purchased
What’s the difference between the DC 16 and the FR 16?
Never mine I rewatch the video. Sorry for the dumb question. Which battery would you recommend for the FR 16?
If we want the battery to fit the battery holder the red GNB 550 is the one I enjoyed the most. Good performance and flight time.
Hi! Can you tell me the size of the 450 and 750Mah battery? Thanks in advance!
size as in measurements?
Aren't A30 and BT 2.0 supposed to be compatible I thought I heard something like that?
I've heard that as well, but haven't confirmed in person.
That is true. I failed to include that in the video.
How do I bind to the ELRS receiver on the HD version?
Tried flashing multiple times with and without binding phrase. No matter what it always just slow blinked and never even went to Wi-Fi. Flywoo never responded. Installed an external ELRS with a ceramic antenna since Flywoo customer support was non-existent.
mowing and BBQ all I have planned .could cheat it a bit by putting 45mm props on a drill and spin next to sand paper till they fit.
oh yea, we could trim a touch.
Hey man, my bt2.0 battery fits with the a30 connector on this tiny. But is it safe?
Yes, it is the A30 is designed specifically to be able to use the bt2.0 batteries and A30.
Hello,
I broke my firefly 1s frame, which one would you recommend switching the hardware too ?
It doesn't have to be the exact same size, and I'm using it with hdzero
thank you !
Not that I can recommend any frame over others, but the hglrc drashark is for the same prop size and configuration.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you, I'll give it a try
Hey nick I need advice. I bought the tiny hawk 3. Ran great for 2 weeks. Now it will randomly pitch to the left and crash with no control at all. It keeps happening and I can't fly it at all. Any ideas? Couldn't find anything online
Are you flying in angle mode?
@NickBurnsFPV i only fly it in angle mode so its not that
Some times its fly okay for like 30 seconds and then it randomly rolls to the right and dive bombs. Now its to the point where ill arm it and it just flips right over
@@maverickdorgan2843 has it always done this? Did it start after a change or crash? It nearly sounds like an esc desync, but its always hard to tell without seeing.
Yeah, must have been after a crash. Should I order a new esc?
Do you think it is worth moving my hdzero betafpv75 internals to this frame ?
I already use rcinpower 1002 motors, so the setup should be pretty similar
yea, it work pretty well. I suspect flight time will decrease a bit as the rcinpower motors aren't as efficient.
@@NickBurnsFPV I mean Is there something to gain from the whoop form factor ?
@@metalfpv For most its either safety or just a love for the whoop form. Overall any quad with prop protection will not fly as well as those without prop protection.
What vtx power did you fly the analog version at?
Vtx settings are in the top right hand corner of the video.
What is the camera angle on the fr16?
Approximately 20 degrees
thanks@@NickBurnsFPV
HD Zero almost doubles the price! Darn ridiculous! I purchased the HD Zero system when it was new and had thought it would come down in price. It never did!
we haven't seen anything but price increasing with inflation. There have be a product or two come in at lower price point, but that is the exception.
Great Review.. Wish to visit you in person from india
Still haven't seen a thing better than a 1s 3in. Baby tooth yall missing out if you don't have one
The size it what puts me off of the 3inch 1s quads.
@@NickBurnsFPV is the firefly 1s quieter than the babytooth? I only care about noise. The firefly seems to be really quiet
@@javierruizramos7089 Its been a good long while since I have flown a babytooth, but yes I believe the firefly 1s is more quiet.
if you press 8 on your keyboartd, it kinda sounds like he said nugget
nice one thanks
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with RID around the corner I am looking at sub 250 even more. Karen is also a little less aggressive when they see that you are lighter than a sparrow. plus, I dont worry that I might hurt someone if I failsafe/crash with 1s. People still think you are spying on them, and dont realize they arent interesting enough to spy on.
We tend to be overwhelmed with negativity in the news media and socials, skews people to thinking pervs are everywhere and if you don't like something your somehow a victim of it/something. Shame, we can't just go out and enjoy the day regardless of our activities.
I still fly analog because I'm too broke for HD lol.
Nothing wrong with analog. I still fly it a majority of the time.
Great video, appreciate you! Like button hit for the algorithm 🫡👍🏿
There’s only one M in coming
Thank you, corrected that.
Just think. As of September 16 2023.RemoteID kicks in. Here's one. If you fly say a Whoop and post the video of the flight on your TH-cam channel. You will need a RemoteID Module on that little tiny Whoop. Fun days are coming. A lot of TH-cam FPV channel;s will go away.
I kinda get tired of these manufacturers coming out with these BNF drones with all of these mistakes that could have been either designed better or improved on. These are yet two more like that. I think we need to realize we can build a similar quad that is so much better than what any of the manufacturers come up with. Use a better canopy with fully adjustable tilt for our camera. Picking a frame that fits those 45mm props, etc. Seems these BNF's are always a compromise! 🤷
Another thing... If you are getting 7 - 10 minute flights - YOU ARE USING TOO BIG OF A BATTERY ON THESE TINY 1S QUADS! Performance is much less, than if you just expected to get 3 - 5 minutes a flight, but you get so much better performance because your lipo is so much lighter weight! Just change your lipo more often and reap the benefits of a proper weight lipo. These aren't supposed to get long flight times, they are supposed to get high performance and 3-5 minute flights. Understand, getting long flights is killing your performance! And, long flights is a NEWBIE THING and we need to ignore. The Newbies that constantly bring up "how long of a flight did you get?" Kinda Newbie questions. As I mentioned, we are used to getting 3 minute flights, and pretty much anything longer than a minute of so longer than that and you are using too heavy of a battery. IT'S A FRIGGIN' 1S! 🤦
Bottom line: Build your own, get camera angle adjustability, use 45mm props, etc, etc... All the things Nick mentioned you can achieve by building it yourself!
Use proper lipos to get good flight times but not double weight lipos to get long flights compromised by the super heavy weight of your huge lipo! Just like whoops, these micros aren't about long flights, they're about getting the weight as low as possible to get great spirited performance. RIP IT! 🤘
Well, unless you like flying heavy barge?! Lol
Best of luck! 😎🤘
It does sometimes surprise me how much other look at long flight time, at least the verbal section of FPV. I have had a few that won't by an fpv drone until it can get at least 10 minutes of flight. I suspect many of those are either coming from camera drones or haven't been around long enough to develop much of a flight envelope.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes, they're coming from camera drones...and those don't have a choice of batteries...just the one that's made for it. We need to help these uneducated Newbies - Help them understand that with FPV drones we have a choice of battery sizes. Help them ESPECIALLY UNDERSTAND that long flight times equal lower performance - lower to the point of sluggish response and the "Flying Barge Syndrome!" They are simply new to the hobby and don't know any better. We have to educate them TO KNOW BETTER. They need to learn that long flight time isn't "really" a thing with micro drones. With camera drones, they can't afford to purchase many batteries because they charge about $100 each! With micro drones we can buy several dozen batteries if we want to. They need to be taught that 3 - 4 minutes is normal and ultra lightweight batteries is THE BEST! It improves performance, as you know, and gives us the performance that is normal for FPV drones. We simply take one battery out and pop a new charged battery in and take off and fly again. OR, RIP AGAIN! Because the micro performs awesome cuz the battery isn't making IT FEEL LIKE FLYING A HEAVY BARGE!
You, my friend, are just the guy to teach these nubile FPV pilots! BURNS KNOWS BEST! LOL
But, no offense, you've got to quit making it seem like a 10 minute flight time is a good thing. It's not! Because you and I both know that battery is way, WAY TOO HEAVY! All Micros should use between a 260mah and a 380mah lipo. Remember what you recommend for a 2S? That little Turnigy 2S 300mah that I went out and bought a slug of because they are the best! You know,.I've never even owned a1S bigger than 380mah?! Seriously, I've never even bought a 450mah 1S - TOO DAMN HEAVY when that same micro can easily fly on a 300mah 1S and perform way better. "It's all about weight with micros/whoops!" ,,, and more lipos is the way to go intead of BIG ONES! :)
@@NickBurnsFPV For what it's worth, the appeal for me isn't to recreate a camera drone.
I liked the V1 so much because that 7 - 8 minute flight time led to a sort of mini-explorer that could always be in your bag. At a moment's notice, you could be buzzing grass level across whatever cool place you found. If you managed to lose it forever, you were out maybe $130. Just a ton of fun.
I absolutely get making a 3 - 4 minute freestyle machine, but I'll miss having this option now that the original has been replaced. I guess I'll have to try to just recreate it myself? I've never built a micro but I don't see why that shouldn't be doable.
As always - thanks for you content!
@@barneyfromblueshift yes true. I think we can make something to fit your needs base the build on the nano baby and use somewhat lower kv motors that are 0802