Congrats for this (well deserved) success! And this Jazzmaster looks really cool too. :) I would be curious to hear the C8 TPMP placement (a French program that I watch from time to time!)
Hey thanks Cedric! Funny you mention it but most of the French TV placement are for advertisements on TV, I think that one is for a hair product. Sadly, I can’t collect PRO income from ad placements, even if they show up on TV, at least that’s what SOCAN tells me.
Great informative video! Say for eg I wanna submit to Artlist. If I also distribute my music through an aggregator for streaming and TH-cam, should I opt out of TH-cam content ID as well?
Hi Stevie, this is exciting to hear. I've just started writing for Artlist Original. Must say the production process is at a whole different level but sounds worth it if you can get results like this. Continued success my friend 👊
@@Steven_Beddall stevie I applied to Artlist as I was attracted to the passive income aspect of it, but I got accepted on Artlist Original which as far as I can tell is a different model for the artist. Could you speak to this? On Artlist original it’s paid upfront so there’s no passive income (other than streaming royalties) and the songs ARE exclusive right? Which model do you prefer?
@@xtizzy6765 yes you’re correct, they are exclusive, and they are buying the rights to your music, make sure to read the contract carefully😊 I prefer to work in both models so I retain the rights to some of my music, but also can make money upfront once in a while too
@@Steven_Beddall Thanks for the reply! So it is possible to work within both models on Artlist? I felt the impression that the exclusive “Artlist Original” model would be the only model going forward on Artlist?
@@xtizzy6765 both the non exclusive and exclusive music on Artlist are run by different teams, they may be able to offer more clarity on it if you reach out to them about that. I should probably do a follow up video on it, it’s a bit confusing!
Thanks Stevie, your videos have been super informative. Wanted to ask - ideally what’s the No of tracks one should apply with to these libraries? Does it have to be a album of 7/8 tracks of one genre ? Or can they be a few but different in genre? Appreciate your response in advance.
I was under the impression that selling your music on Artlist or a “royalty free” site meant you couldn’t collect royalties at all. How is your PRO still collecting royalties?
Great content! Thanks for sharing this information. You mentioned in the video that a music supervisor reached out to you to use your music for another project. Why would they reach out if the Artlist contract allows them to use the music in any kind of project? I heard from another artist that a similar thing happened with him. His song was in a video that Uber wanted to use and license and he got $15K or something. Can you explain how this could happen? Thank you!
Hi stevie! Thank you for all your videos, its been pleasent to watch them. Could you tell me, can I release music on spotify, and then submit it to artlist?
This was a super helpful video! I've been researching Artlist and I can't find how much the artist gets paid for each download, could you speak to that?
It varies. It's calculated differently every year as a percentage of their net revenue and also subscriber behaviours and membership tiers play into the exact amount of a single download.
Why do you get performance money from the collecting Society for the broadcast, when you uploaded the music on to Artlist which is royalty free music! Isnt that the whole point of Artlist, that the braodcaster dont have to pay any performance royalties?
Not exactly, it’s a bit confusing because the term ‘royalty free’ is a bit of a misnomer. Broadcast networks are obliged to pay fees to PROs for usage even if they source the music from a ‘royalty free’ websites but oftentimes they do go unreported. That’s why Tunesat is important. Nevertheless, this is why all my music with Artlist and Motion Array is registered with SOCAN. The concept of ‘royalty free’ pertains more to the idea that a single license fee allows for unlimited usage on TH-cam or other social media platforms, so the fee covers you no matter how many times the video is viewed.
@@Steven_Beddall so best approach would be have any music submitted to these libraries, also registered with a PRO as well as tunes at? We would Essentially have all tracks registered in 4-5 different places?
@@Steven_Beddall i wouldn´t bet on this. Broadcasters only use music from Artlist or Epidemic just because the don´t have to pay any performance royalties. Would you mind to give me an example which song of yours is on Artlist and i check if its also registered at GEMA (German Society)?
@@sikkde If that were the case then there would be no reason for these libraries to ask me to register my PRO info in the metadata 😊 You can join the Discord group and chat with several composers about the PRO money they’ve received through placements of their royalty free library music catalogue. It may be different in Germany, different laws in different countries
@@Steven_Beddall thx Stevie. Actually i´m the Head of the major production music company in Germany and we were asking ourselves for a long time, wether Artlist is "really" royalty free or not. Thats why i asked for a track of yours that is on Artlist so i can check if the title is listed at GEMA as well, because then broadcasters would be obligated to pay performance to GEMA,... but in Germany Artlist is used in Television only because Artlist advertises their music as "royalty free", so broadcaster only have to pay a synch fee and NOT performance.
Thank you Stevie, I was rejected by Motion array few month a go and that make me stop composing and pitching after being accepted by Pond 5, do you think I could start back and try Motion Array again or try Artlist instead?
I think it really depends on what kind of music you’re writing and what suits the library best. Make sure to do a lot of listening on the popular tracks from each, and use as a reference point for your next submission 👍
Hi Stevie, first of all many thanks for your good videos! You often mention that your performance royalties are important to you and that you distribute your music via Artlist. However, Artlist advertises with Royalty Free music. Am I missing something here? Glad about an answer!
Yeah it’s a bit confusing. Royalty Free’ is a bit of a misnomer in the sense that RF music can sometimes (albeit not often) end up on broadcast networks where cue sheets are being filed. In these cases, there’s the potential to collect performance royalties as the copyright holder of ‘royalty free’ music.
@@Steven_Beddall Thanks a ton for you fast reply - I appreciate that very much! In this case, will your songs be released under a pseudonym, or are you not required to submit each song to your PRO? So it can be listed as 'Royalty Free'.
Do you think it's a good idea to focus on instrumental music? All the music I've ever made, I've sung on, but I want to start making music for sync licensing.
@@Steven_Beddall That's a good point. Do you think it's necessary to make full 3 minute, typical structured song? Is there a recommended structure for songs that are more likely to get noticed or placed?
Hey Stevie, concerning TuneSat, suppose you find out that one of your tracks has been placed on a show but has remained unreported, what is the appropriate next step to get paid?
@ProductionMusicAcademy BMI has been super unhelpful with this. I've had more than 100 tv placements slip through the cracks from tracks that originated from Artlist. I"m super grateful to be on the roster but I wish there was a better system for making sure the users understand what is royalty free use, why a cue sheet is necessary for any broadcast use, and for Artlist to make sure users understand this and have access to the artists PRO information.
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That would be a dream to be a part of artlist! thanks for sharing and congrats!!
Great Stevie !! Thanks and congrats 👏👏👏
Great video, Steve. The Q&A section is on point. Artlist is certainly my next step. Thanks for the great content!
Thanks Alex, I know you’ll be on Artlist at some point for sure 😊
Thank you Stevie, you answered all my questions about Artlist!
Great content! And congratulations on your success!
And I'm curious to learn how PRO and Tunesat knows where the music is placed. Really curious.
Thanks Arko! Yeah it’s crazy technology, not sure how they do it!
Thanks for this, Stevie! Good to hear about this, I didn't know these updates in this business, I'm just a learner, it was inspiring 🙂
Thanks for watching!
Congrats for this (well deserved) success! And this Jazzmaster looks really cool too. :)
I would be curious to hear the C8 TPMP placement (a French program that I watch from time to time!)
Hey thanks Cedric! Funny you mention it but most of the French TV placement are for advertisements on TV, I think that one is for a hair product. Sadly, I can’t collect PRO income from ad placements, even if they show up on TV, at least that’s what SOCAN tells me.
Thanks for the good info I really appreciate it.
Yeah man, Artlist really is a game changer!
super helpful brother! thank you
Great informative video! Say for eg I wanna submit to Artlist. If I also distribute my music through an aggregator for streaming and TH-cam, should I opt out of TH-cam content ID as well?
Hi Stevie, this is exciting to hear. I've just started writing for Artlist Original. Must say the production process is at a whole different level but sounds worth it if you can get results like this. Continued success my friend 👊
Thanks! Good luck with writing for Originals, I’ve been doing the same and it’s been a great experience so far!
@@Steven_Beddall stevie I applied to Artlist as I was attracted to the passive income aspect of it, but I got accepted on Artlist Original which as far as I can tell is a different model for the artist. Could you speak to this? On Artlist original it’s paid upfront so there’s no passive income (other than streaming royalties) and the songs ARE exclusive right? Which model do you prefer?
@@xtizzy6765 yes you’re correct, they are exclusive, and they are buying the rights to your music, make sure to read the contract carefully😊 I prefer to work in both models so I retain the rights to some of my music, but also can make money upfront once in a while too
@@Steven_Beddall Thanks for the reply! So it is possible to work within both models on Artlist? I felt the impression that the exclusive “Artlist Original” model would be the only model going forward on Artlist?
@@xtizzy6765 both the non exclusive and exclusive music on Artlist are run by different teams, they may be able to offer more clarity on it if you reach out to them about that. I should probably do a follow up video on it, it’s a bit confusing!
Just submitted today to artlist. Hopefully I hear good news from them.
thanks buddy 👍
Thanks Stevie, your videos have been super informative.
Wanted to ask
- ideally what’s the No of tracks one should apply with to these libraries? Does it have to be a album of 7/8 tracks of one genre ? Or can they be a few but different in genre?
Appreciate your response in advance.
I was under the impression that selling your music on Artlist or a “royalty free” site meant you couldn’t collect royalties at all. How is your PRO still collecting royalties?
Great content! Thanks for sharing this information. You mentioned in the video that a music supervisor reached out to you to use your music for another project. Why would they reach out if the Artlist contract allows them to use the music in any kind of project? I heard from another artist that a similar thing happened with him. His song was in a video that Uber wanted to use and license and he got $15K or something. Can you explain how this could happen? Thank you!
Any idea about registering with BMI if you’re from another country that doesn’t have a PRO?
I know that BMI accepts foreign composers but I don't have all the details about joining BMI as I'm not American.
@@Steven_Beddall okay thanks
Hi stevie! Thank you for all your videos, its been pleasent to watch them. Could you tell me, can I release music on spotify, and then submit it to artlist?
I scroll and find that you said that if its not content id registered, then its ok :)
This was a super helpful video! I've been researching Artlist and I can't find how much the artist gets paid for each download, could you speak to that?
It varies. It's calculated differently every year as a percentage of their net revenue and also subscriber behaviours and membership tiers play into the exact amount of a single download.
@@Steven_Beddall Okay! That makes sense, thank you. Could you give me an average number or range that you've seen?
are the tracks you have on Artlist also registered with Socan?
Absolutely 😊
Why do you get performance money from the collecting Society for the broadcast, when you uploaded the music on to Artlist which is royalty free music! Isnt that the whole point of Artlist, that the braodcaster dont have to pay any performance royalties?
Not exactly, it’s a bit confusing because the term ‘royalty free’ is a bit of a misnomer. Broadcast networks are obliged to pay fees to PROs for usage even if they source the music from a ‘royalty free’ websites but oftentimes they do go unreported. That’s why Tunesat is important. Nevertheless, this is why all my music with Artlist and Motion Array is registered with SOCAN. The concept of ‘royalty free’ pertains more to the idea that a single license fee allows for unlimited usage on TH-cam or other social media platforms, so the fee covers you no matter how many times the video is viewed.
@@Steven_Beddall so best approach would be have any music submitted to these libraries, also registered with a PRO as well as tunes at? We would Essentially have all tracks registered in 4-5 different places?
@@Steven_Beddall i wouldn´t bet on this. Broadcasters only use music from Artlist or Epidemic just because the don´t have to pay any performance royalties. Would you mind to give me an example which song of yours is on Artlist and i check if its also registered at GEMA (German Society)?
@@sikkde If that were the case then there would be no reason for these libraries to ask me to register my PRO info in the metadata 😊 You can join the Discord group and chat with several composers about the PRO money they’ve received through placements of their royalty free library music catalogue. It may be different in Germany, different laws in different countries
@@Steven_Beddall thx Stevie. Actually i´m the Head of the major production music company in Germany and we were asking ourselves for a long time, wether Artlist is "really" royalty free or not. Thats why i asked for a track of yours that is on Artlist so i can check if the title is listed at GEMA as well, because then broadcasters would be obligated to pay performance to GEMA,... but in Germany Artlist is used in Television only because Artlist advertises their music as "royalty free", so broadcaster only have to pay a synch fee and NOT performance.
Thank you Stevie, I was rejected by Motion array few month a go and that make me stop composing and pitching after being accepted by Pond 5, do you think I could start back and try Motion Array again or try Artlist instead?
I think it really depends on what kind of music you’re writing and what suits the library best. Make sure to do a lot of listening on the popular tracks from each, and use as a reference point for your next submission 👍
@@Steven_Beddall Thank you for your advise, I will do that.
What do you mean by royalty free library?
Essentially it means paying a one-time fee for the privilege of using someone else’s copyrighted material in your own work
Hi Stevie,
first of all many thanks for your good videos!
You often mention that your performance royalties are important to you and that you distribute your music via Artlist. However, Artlist advertises with Royalty Free music. Am I missing something here?
Glad about an answer!
Yeah it’s a bit confusing. Royalty Free’ is a bit of a misnomer in the sense that RF music can sometimes (albeit not often) end up on broadcast networks where cue sheets are being filed. In these cases, there’s the potential to collect performance royalties as the copyright holder of ‘royalty free’ music.
@@Steven_Beddall Thanks a ton for you fast reply - I appreciate that very much! In this case, will your songs be released under a pseudonym, or are you not required to submit each song to your PRO? So it can be listed as 'Royalty Free'.
@@kingmakeragency I would like to know that answer too
@@deboman81 there was never an anwser
@@kingmakeragency damn, que lastima which means what a shame smh
Do you think it's a good idea to focus on instrumental music? All the music I've ever made, I've sung on, but I want to start making music for sync licensing.
Well I think vocals provide something unique in the sync licensing space so I would use that skill to your advantage!
@@Steven_Beddall That's a good point. Do you think it's necessary to make full 3 minute, typical structured song? Is there a recommended structure for songs that are more likely to get noticed or placed?
so can i upload same songs on spotify and artlist same time?
As long as they're not registered with content ID services. If it's a buyout offer they act as your distributor.
@@Steven_Beddall thank you for your prompt answer. So does it work when i upload an album by distrokid without youtube id?
Hello Sir how does Artilst downloads link to your Spotify Downloads?
There's no direct link between the two platforms, just exposure on Artlist which leads people to search on Spotify.
Hey Stevie, concerning TuneSat, suppose you find out that one of your tracks has been placed on a show but has remained unreported, what is the appropriate next step to get paid?
Figuring that out myself too, best to contact your PRO and see if they can do anything about it.
@@Steven_Beddall thanks a lot for the feedback. Also thank you for your content. It's very helpful
@ProductionMusicAcademy BMI has been super unhelpful with this. I've had more than 100 tv placements slip through the cracks from tracks that originated from Artlist. I"m super grateful to be on the roster but I wish there was a better system for making sure the users understand what is royalty free use, why a cue sheet is necessary for any broadcast use, and for Artlist to make sure users understand this and have access to the artists PRO information.