How EMIYA Beat Heracles SIX TIMES In A Row

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  • @VacadoRay
    @VacadoRay ปีที่แล้ว +783

    HOW...... Because he's HIM-IYA

    • @Erohimu
      @Erohimu ปีที่แล้ว +54

      HIM-IYA from the Hood

    • @jeffreyherrera5069
      @jeffreyherrera5069 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Because he showed the unbridled wrath of the hero known as Shirou FUCKING EMIYA 😁😁

    • @WroughtIronHero
      @WroughtIronHero ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm-IYA!!!

    • @prehistoriccreator9600
      @prehistoriccreator9600 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Erohimu Isn't HIM-IYA from the Hood EMIYA Alter?

  • @GoodDudeMadWorld
    @GoodDudeMadWorld ปีที่แล้ว +661

    Emiya sometimes is a walking option select or a 5 star masquerading as a 4 star in fgo.

    • @tamamtamam8646
      @tamamtamam8646 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Yes even in game play he deserves better
      İn aoe he can refill his np with proper support

    • @TrapConnoisseur.
      @TrapConnoisseur. ปีที่แล้ว +89

      He's the vice president of the should've been a 5 star club after all. Herc is the president of course

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      ​@@TrapConnoisseur.I swear I read somewhere in an interview that no Counter Guardian would ever be allowed to be a 5* in fgo due to most not having any mystery.

    • @aratabhist
      @aratabhist ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@casteanpreswyn7528 okita alter is a 5 star tho despite being a cg

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @abhista9272 ngl, totally forgot she exists. Lol. But I still swear I read that in an interview. Mightve been changed now though.

  • @TheWcasey
    @TheWcasey ปีที่แล้ว +389

    When the modern man gets the old legend to respect him. Ya love to see it. I’d go as far as to say Gil, underneath all the distain for EMIYA, also has to respect him on some level. He’d never admit it but he probably does.

    • @jayyang236
      @jayyang236 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      He actually does because Gil is actually afraid of EMIYA. He’ll never admit it, but he is and he respects him for that.

    • @phemelomakwela8057
      @phemelomakwela8057 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      He gave shirou the win in ubw, after the reality marble ended he straight up acknowledged Shirou as the winner of the fight despite being the only one still standing 💯💯💯

    • @drippy2x787
      @drippy2x787 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jayyang236Gil doesn’t take him seriously.there’s no way he’s scared

    • @jayyang236
      @jayyang236 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@drippy2x787 he is because he knows UNW is the only counter to him. Which is why he tried to get EMIYA out of try way first.

    • @jayyang236
      @jayyang236 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Gspoink I never said anything about EMIYA winning. All I said was that Gil respects him.

  • @XFG_Official
    @XFG_Official ปีที่แล้ว +224

    This fight and Cu vs Gilgamesh are the main reasons I want a Ufotable Fate Route adaptation. I really want to see what they would come up with in regards to actually giving these fights screentime.

    • @FlaschenJoe11
      @FlaschenJoe11 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Right. Cu lasted 12h against Gil, didn't he?

    • @XFG_Official
      @XFG_Official ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@FlaschenJoe11 Yep, 12 hours. One of the reasons I want to see it given a proper adaptation is because a lot of people downplay Cu by saying stuff like "he was hard carried by protection from arrows, that's the only reason he stood a chance," and it really feels like ignoring how strong Cu actually is.

    • @FlaschenJoe11
      @FlaschenJoe11 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@XFG_Official Irish Hercules. When he goes all out, he is a MENACE

    • @XFG_Official
      @XFG_Official ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@FlaschenJoe11 Oh yeah he's an absolute monster consistently put in awful scenarios.

    • @thesurvivlist5440
      @thesurvivlist5440 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@XFG_Officialthe fact that he was carried by his protection of arrows skills is basically the truth though considering Gilgamesh just uses his weapons as projectiles.

  • @Feronen
    @Feronen ปีที่แล้ว +92

    EMIYA has always had the capacity to take on pretty much any servant and hold his own well. The problem he has is that UBW is a Noble Phantasm that is tailor-made to fight against Gilgamesh and his Gates of Babylon. Unless he's fighting against someone with a similar NP to Gates of Babylon, like Nobu's 300 Muskets, he is simply rendered into a jack-of-all-trades, master of none servant. What truly defines EMIYA as being absolutely cracked is the fact that he knows this about himself and he's able to adapt his kit through sheer skill of arms. This is what makes every servant who has fought EMIYA respect him so much - through adversity, he perseveres and overcomes by skill alone.

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +21

      You literally forgot Emiyas most Broken Ability which is down Right terrifying Because he can copy stats, Skills,History of ANy NP He Projects and can use it anytime he wants. Emiya with his analysis can tell the weakness and Strength oF Servant in one Glance. He cant abuse this ability because of his limited ManaPool Thats why he is a B Tier servant

    • @SirFooplesTheThird
      @SirFooplesTheThird 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@user-pm9ev3up5this mana pool as a servant is limited. If summoned by the CF his mana is infinite which is why he could win wars for millenia

    • @philippgabainvonkries5117
      @philippgabainvonkries5117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The fact that this actually true in lore is one the biggest points against Nasu's writing. Man can write detailed characters and stories but he's really bad at keeping a coherent Power system. Logicly UBW being a faster omni directional version of the gate of Babylon should be enough to completely overwhelm most servants but it's treated as if it somehow doesn't do that when he's not fighting Gilgamesh.

  • @user-jn1qw5xp7v
    @user-jn1qw5xp7v ปีที่แล้ว +128

    EMIYA got even got a demigod to respect him

  • @JohnPeacekeeper
    @JohnPeacekeeper ปีที่แล้ว +504

    Honestly, I think he could have actually taken all 12 had he gotten proper support
    Unlimited Blade Works is cracked

    • @EliyahDaBoss
      @EliyahDaBoss ปีที่แล้ว +131

      He could have just done what gilgamesh did to berserker, he also could have just killed ilya but he didnt wanna harm her

    • @reaps2661
      @reaps2661 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He might've also been able to with an open area

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +59

      he can actually if you think about it + he was injured during the fight against Herc Thanks to Artoria injuring him beforehand

    • @JRZTT
      @JRZTT ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@user-pm9ev3up5t I think someone debunk that with Archer already fully heal by the time this fight start

    • @misteris2385
      @misteris2385 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      With unli mana he mostlikely can. Just spam caladbolg I guess? Not sure if it would work, its spacial piercing vs god hand, wonder how it would go.

  • @Spnozilla
    @Spnozilla ปีที่แล้ว +146

    With all these feats I have no idea how there are Emiya down players out there. It’s like yeah he’s not the strongest in terms of raw power and unga bunga fighting ability but time and time again he proves that he can contend with them in an abstract way that’s unique to him

    • @Warrion9876
      @Warrion9876 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I agree but the problem is that many emiya fanboys make him out to be an s tier servant when he really isn´t. His versatility allows him to take on characters he shouldn´t be able to take on but there is a point where versatillity alone just isn´t enough. Herc is a prime example. Emiya is a hard counter to him because of his versatillity but the difference in raw power is just to great to be overcome by versatillity alone.

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anusaukko6792 i agree

    • @desolatorstorm142
      @desolatorstorm142 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Warrion9876 It wasn't a hard counter. Shirou tracing Herc's weapon and using a superior version of Herc vs.......Herc was hard-countering him. All EMIYA did in the fight was fight a CQB fight with more effort than he usually does. The only aspect of countering Herc was his ability to not have Herc's resistance be an auto-win for him like it is with most of the other characters. What likely happened was that EMIYA probably outperformed Herc, but was getting injured in the process, and well, Herc has 12 lives.

    • @nottomiokagiyu9830
      @nottomiokagiyu9830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's also Emiya wankers in abundance.

    • @Asphyx12
      @Asphyx12 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nottomiokagiyu9830 I mean we should wank him though since no one could ever tell his legends, in the end he is a modern man contending with heroes and legends.

  • @nandan148
    @nandan148 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Because my man is built different

    • @en-voguepugh3472
      @en-voguepugh3472 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      quite literally made of blades right?

    • @GAarcher
      @GAarcher หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@en-voguepugh3472 *I mean, ask for saber, she knows about what Bone of My Sword truly means*

  • @lanuel2208
    @lanuel2208 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Be honest if EMIYA was allowed to have a legend he'd be part of the legendary tier heroic spirit type.
    And this guy went toe to toe with legendary heroes with just his skills since he's been nerfed by being a counter guardian.

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Funniest Part is that It was implied that Emiya was much stronger when he was alive(i dont remember the exact time but it was stated in Material of UBW if i am not wrong)

    • @lanuel2208
      @lanuel2208 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@user-pm9ev3up5t and seeing what Archer can do in fate extella yea I can see a younger Archer stronger in his prime

    • @ShizukiShirano
      @ShizukiShirano ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@user-pm9ev3up5t Being a Servant is ironically basically a nerf too, since you have limited resources and the world can try to erase you at the same time lol

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@ShizukiShirano True Being Servant is Nerf in most cases and OP in some case Bedivere, Archimedes,etc are Good Example, And Character like Saber, Gilgamesh and Emiya are heavily nerfed in Servant Form but atleast Saber and Gilgamesh have some Legend Backing them up meanwhile Emiya has none of it

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lanuel2208 True

  • @Faker21
    @Faker21 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    He got that dog in him

    • @Erohimu
      @Erohimu ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That would be Cu if I'm not mistaken 😂

  • @arabbitwhocanuseinternet9657
    @arabbitwhocanuseinternet9657 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Well in fate extella:
    He can summon gae bolg, galatine and nero sword. So unlimted blades can help him uses many np from other servants.

    • @cephery8482
      @cephery8482 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean the moon cell probably allowed him to see a lot of noble phantasms he didnt have a chance to as just a counter guardian so that he could place them into UBW. I feel like the reason he sticks to the much smaller range of them in stay night is just cause he very rarely got called on by the counter force to places where other heroic spirits were present, so he treasured those weapons he could actually bare witness to

    • @danboii137
      @danboii137 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      according to the data books from extella, the moon cell allowed nameless to do things he couldn't do in a normal war. Like projecting Excalibur image and using it without hurting himself

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@danboii137 Half correct except its not that mooncell allowed it but all Servants in Mooncells gets infinite amount of mana(because of it having different rules) and are less restricted(Since the mooncell can restore the world instantly) thats why Emiya doesnt have to worry about mana which was his biggest issue with Projecting Excalibur

    • @Infernal_Sniper
      @Infernal_Sniper ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cephery8482 we actually know that hes had those weapons from before the moon cell. One of the swords that gilgamesh fires out of the gate of babylon is excalibur galatine so we can definitively say that he has had it because nameless is post grail wars emiya. That also means hes had gae bolg. the only one we dont know where he picked it up out of the three is nero's aestus estus.

    • @tahirbhatti965
      @tahirbhatti965 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Infernal_SniperWell Emiya was the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire. He must have seen it when Nero was in her theater

  • @rebelblade7159
    @rebelblade7159 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    If EMIYA is not limited by the plot, he'd be a very tough opponent to face in a Holy Grail War. His cold and calculating attitude means that he lacks the pride and arrogance that limits many heroes while his projection would also allow him to instantly learn the true names of most servants by tracing their weapons. Now he has his skills and arsenal to utilize in order to find the most effective way to win.

    • @joeylagitan2692
      @joeylagitan2692 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      tbf he's not limited by the plot but plot helps him do something extra ordinary

    • @L0L246
      @L0L246 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​​@@joeylagitan2692 nah he'd solo the grail war if rin didnt hold him back
      Edit: I mean that she stops him form killing and using his plans(the ones that let shirou in mind of steel win it all) not mana wise since she boosts him there

    • @UKT13378
      @UKT13378 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@L0L246 we actually did see that in Oath under the Snow movie, Shirou who won the HGW in a single night.

    • @L0L246
      @L0L246 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@UKT13378 I mean, he had an advantage that grail war(infinite mana and his heroic spirit was 100% cuz it was him unlike th others who only had a fraction of their heroic spirits powers

  • @sleepylmguy9968
    @sleepylmguy9968 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Let me add some other theoretical options for killing Herc. You mentioned the possibility of him using Excalibur, the draw back it would be a death for Emiya as well. But what if instead of EXcalibur, he could have opted to use regular Calibur? The predecessor. That one while not as powerful as the former it would theoretically not take Emiya own life to make unlike Excalibur. I mean OG human Shirou Emiya can make it even tho he’s less experience in his tracing power, I see no logical reason why Archer Emiya can’t do it too. For either to get off one or two lives. Or he could use it the entire fight. Just spit balling here.
    Another option I could see Archer using. Gáe Bolg. Now I know what you’re thinking. Can Archer even make Gáe Bolg? And most importantly can he even use its Noble Phantasm? I’m inclined to say…yes to both. Tho I’m not sure if it will be an Excalibur situation which meaning if it will take his life to do. But even if it does. He can use it for the for LAST kill. Or last resort to take one final life before disappearing.

    • @Lucaintheninjatank
      @Lucaintheninjatank ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Caliburn only demonstrates that level of power when used by Saber and Gae Bolg can't harm Heracles unless Cu using the original full strength version buffs it with his runes.

    • @blake3472
      @blake3472 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      ​@@Lucaintheninjatankemiya can use durandal wich is better and equal or stronger than calibur, also gae bolg would be no problem to use but it isn't strong enough to damage herc

    • @Lucaintheninjatank
      @Lucaintheninjatank ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@blake3472 Durandal is better than Caliburn for EMIYA for sure but do remember that Caliburn can match Excalibur for one shot then break but only when wielded by Artoria.
      Yes Emiya can trace Gae Bolg, my point was even regular Gae Bolg can't kill Heracles.

    • @blake3472
      @blake3472 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Lucaintheninjatank calibur even with artoria is A+ rank same of durandal also durandal is compared with excallibur so yes it is equal or even stronger than calibur, i coment that gae bolg wouldn't damage herc it is a B rank emiya's one would be C rank

    • @sleepylmguy9968
      @sleepylmguy9968 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Lucaintheninjatank Hmmm, with both weapons in their standard versions that might be true. But what if Emiya would turn them both into Broken phantasm? Couldn't that raised the power by enough?
      Also I want to mention. That before Shirou gave Calibur to Saber, I recalled a scene where Shirou cuts off Berserker hand by himself. So with that evidence it's has enough power while being wield by Artoria to cut his skin. Or was that just a Filler scene that the animators throw in to extend the fight?

  • @maverick5169
    @maverick5169 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I love the fact that we don't know how Emiya defeats Berserker 6 times in Fate, because then we play UBW and realize that 1) as Shirou, he knows how Herc fights and what it's needed to win against him and 2), he has a stupidly strong NP that can put even Gilgamesh on the ropes. So the fight finally makes perfect sense.

    • @rome3521
      @rome3521 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      UBW is not really op, it's far from "very good" it's just that Gilgamesh and Herc have some odd conditions that's why UBW is effective to them.

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@rome3521 If you think UBW isnt OP then youre Dead wrong Especially If He can just Use Multiple NP in UBW in span of seconds with No Drawbacks and copy stats of original user and Weapon Ability + Getting Rained Down by Countless Broken Phantasm from Every Direction? Thats Busted if used at its Best

    • @desolatorstorm142
      @desolatorstorm142 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@rome3521 Not exactly. For Gil, it was a hard counter, but the reason why it's a hard counter is because UBW really does temporarily give him Gil levels of firepower temporarily and it's better in CQB. Herc fight had no condition. EMIYA was just a strong CQB fighter and it was odd to him that he had so many high level techniques. There's no other details than that.

    • @maverick5169
      @maverick5169 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mofos here being pedantic as fuck and it still doesn't contradict my point

    • @L0L246
      @L0L246 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@desolatorstorm142 so Gils gate of Babylon isn't op cuz UBW is just a weaker version of that(it's better in some aspects, but I do think it's overall worse)

  • @Wolfkiller335
    @Wolfkiller335 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    A reminder that Emiya only fought in his own terms and was wise enough to keep some things hidden unless a threat to the balance is suspected. He didn't value himself, he was willing to die. He didn't want others to see what he could do, because he felt he didn't measure up to the "heroes" he was summoned alongside.

  • @Serascale
    @Serascale ปีที่แล้ว +36

    He just went out of mana. I am sure he can kill 12 times

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Emiya with Infinite Mana? Yeah no one wants to see someone firing off 100s of Excalibur at you as a Broken Phantasm, That will be terrifying

    • @nicolascreo5295
      @nicolascreo5295 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-pm9ev3up5tcg emiya: yes terrifying

    • @pandoraspixel3367
      @pandoraspixel3367 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Counter gaurdian emiya would have realistically been stronger than Archer emiya.
      Being a servant probably even nerfed him from his original power, plus he doesn't have a legend and the fame to increase his strength like other servants.
      He got so far through sheer skill

    • @nicolascreo5295
      @nicolascreo5295 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pandoraspixel3367 cg emiya could have his stats set accordingly to the threath.. bot like emiya really care. He is just so reliable

  • @murilopenagoncalves3831
    @murilopenagoncalves3831 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'm pretty sure he saved them so that the 'next scene' on the ruins could happend. What a bro.
    (People who read the original VN will understand)

    • @volcanicz6739
      @volcanicz6739 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There's a deen illustration that really had the vibe of EMIYA saying "Aight bro u got this"

  • @zerx70
    @zerx70 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Emiya is just that guy

  • @thomasmcgraw8778
    @thomasmcgraw8778 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Yeah Emya's matchups are weird. His stats are so meh its hard to give him anythingbut a b rank. But his skillset is so good Ex servants still have a hard time. No matter who you are taking down Emya is just such a chore.

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If Given the Right Condition he can Actually defeat Ex Tier servants even though he is nothing more than a B tier Servant. But at the same time his Ability to Copy stats of Projected weapons makes his Base Stats Deceptive because he can change them anytime he wants without difficulty thats why its hard to Rank him

    • @larantuka8189
      @larantuka8189 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So, it's like batman?

    • @thomasmcgraw8778
      @thomasmcgraw8778 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@larantuka8189 eh. Not far off. Only difference is batman usually wins.

  • @deathoftheoldme8645
    @deathoftheoldme8645 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    God this is why emiya is my favorite servant

  • @silentfate
    @silentfate ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Emiya probably literally knocked some sense back into heracles there.

  • @threadinfinite7070
    @threadinfinite7070 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    So essentially Emiya's bag is just busted and we need to recognize he's one of the realest in the game.

  • @jvysznn
    @jvysznn ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Emiya’s literally the TYPE-MOON OC ,, even his Shirou version was the first and only being ,, heroic spirit or otherwise in the animes and games (to my knowledge) to even somewhat threaten Gilgamesh outside of maybe Enkidu and the Chains of Heaven ,, who’s considered to be the God of Spirits and ,, up until the introduction of Shirou Emiya ,, possibly the most broken and OP being to ever live . and it’s literally only because his Noble Phantasm ,, Unlimited Blade Works ,, was a Reality Marble literally crafted by TYPE-MOON to be the perfect counter for The Gate of Babylon (Gilgamesh’s Noble Phantasm) .

  • @sunwukong825
    @sunwukong825 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Berserker really said: Man, I got finessed so hard. This guy is mad lad, bro.

  • @ferrucciocaracciuolo8139
    @ferrucciocaracciuolo8139 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He really is The Side kick himself.

  • @phonegamer1587
    @phonegamer1587 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    requesting for a don't sleep on ozymandias day 19

    • @phonegamer1587
      @phonegamer1587 ปีที่แล้ว

      requesting for a don't sleep on ozymandias day 20

    • @phonegamer1587
      @phonegamer1587 ปีที่แล้ว

      requesting for a don't sleep on ozymandias day 21

    • @phonegamer1587
      @phonegamer1587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      requesting for a don't sleep on ozymandias day 22

  • @Crimson161
    @Crimson161 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    THE GOAT

  • @aaronramos5327
    @aaronramos5327 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing video, amazing content. Thanks for all the hard work bringing more and more info and lore about Fate and Type Moon. + 1 subscriber

  • @HeartlessAlpha
    @HeartlessAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for making this video! I'm glad we got more context on this legendary fight. Do people understand what kind of n***a you have to be to win respect from Heracles? And have him think if he wasn't consumed by madness, he would've enjoyed the fight AND call it a satisfying time? EMIYA is the GOAT.

  • @johantank5631
    @johantank5631 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Personally I think that Heracles kinda got nerfed in most his fights as Nasu made a character that only one or 2 characters could even beat him, so he made a bunch of different ways which are kinda lore breaking
    (Like caliburn which is b rank increasing in rank or nine lives which is a technique being able to be copied by Emiya)

    • @johantank5631
      @johantank5631 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Nekogami04 it’s not that nine lives is used to take live’s ( I’m fine with that especially considering it’s in lore origins) it’s that someone else was able to use that np in the first place as that version of the np was a technique not a physical weapon and the explanation given (Emiya copying the weapons history) also doesn’t make sense since Herk is unable to use nine lives as a berserker and the weapon he uses is one acquired after summoning
      The caliburn explanation sounds okay though (seven lives is still a little much for a broken b)

    • @r.k845
      @r.k845 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@johantank5631Anything Hercules touches immediately becomes able to perform 9 lives.
      It’s a technique that’s imbued on anything Hercules uses as a weapon.

    • @DANSTER999
      @DANSTER999 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@Nekogami04so another thing about Caliburn is that apparently when in Sabers hands it instantly jumps into an A+ rank and is capable of a Excalibur level blast

    • @f.ggaming8206
      @f.ggaming8206 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well Nine Lives was only able to kill Herc because of what the Shadow had done to his body. It doesn’t show it in the movie but in the VN during the fight with Saber Alter the Shadow appeared and wrapped itself around Herc, in order to continue fighting and protect Illya he literally had to peel of his own skin in order to escape. God Hand is a conceptual NP imbued upon his skin without it he is no longer immune to attacks that aren’t A rank and he loses his adaptability to things that killed him previously. He still retains the revival portion of his NP but against a grail empowered saber alter alongside his inability to use a majority of his techniques and solely rely on his brute strength simple attacks it would only be a matter of time until he’s weakened enough for the Shadow to fully engulf him. When he was under grail corruption he was still missing his skin so Shirou was only to use nine lives and take his remaining lives.
      Also about the whole Caliburn being able to take multiple lives, to me that made sense. To people who don’t fully understand the power of NP’s as a simple C rank NP has the fire power of a A rank attack. Considering that Caliburn was a A+ NP alongside it being classified as an anti-army NP and not an anti unit it would be reasonable to assume that it would be able to kill Herc 6 times over, doubly so when you considered it was activated when it was literally inside Herc’s gut.

    • @jeffreyherrera5069
      @jeffreyherrera5069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@r.k845"It's a technique that's imbued on anything Hercules uses as a weapon."
      FGO Jason: *nervous sweating*

  • @SSL_2004
    @SSL_2004 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Archer: Shirou Emiya after a literally indeterminate amount of time and training with magecraft to become a fighter on par with renowned heroes of legend. Has access to literally every physical Noble Phantasm any Shirou Emiya in any timeline has ever seen ever in the history of ever.
    >Was only capable of eradicating 6 of Heracles' 12 lives in a long fight. (Gilgamesh was able to annihilate almost all of them with Gate of Babylon, which is basically a functionally identical Noble Phantasm to Unlimited Blade Works. [Granted he had the help of Enkidu {Granted not like that matters because Archer could theoretically trace that}])
    Fate Route Shirou Emiya: Literally the same guy but millennia younger and with borderline dysfunctional magic circuits and next to no magecraft experience or ability.
    >Is capable of taking Seven of Heracles lives with a SINGLE stab of Caliburn, the inferior version of Excalibur that was previously ineffective, and a weapon that Archer literally has.
    Of all of the bullshit in Fate this is by far the bullshittiest. Nasu Moment.

    • @jorienwachukwu466
      @jorienwachukwu466 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      To be fair, Archer had been injured by Saber earlier in the route, which meant he was already weak when he fought Heracles. And he was bound to a master, meaning he couldn't afford to be reckless with his projection otherwise it would drain Rin and possibly kill her, so he couldn't whip out too many high-ranking NPs (note how, except for Caladbolg, he only used Kansho and Bakuya). He was mainly just stalling for time, and had no intention to actually beat Heracles. Plus, he was at a disadvantage in terms of location and stats, going up against a Berserker servant with A ranked abilities in an enclosed space. He was heavily limited in what he could use, especially since any weapon he uses has its stats reduced, unlike Gil's G.O.B. He could use Broken Phantasms, but those require a lot of mana, which again would put Rin at risk. Not to mention, his broken phantasms can cause massive damage and could end up harming Illya, who he was actively avoiding, whereas Gil kept Heracles on the defensive by targeting Illya, allowing him to get free shots in.
      Shirou is definitely unrealistic, but he did have help from Saber, who as we know, can use her Mana Burst ability to massively enhance her attacks. She most likely used her Mana Burst to enhance Caliburn, allowing it to take all 7 of Heracles' lives. I highly doubt Shirou would have been able to do much on his own, or if he did, it would only be like 2 or 3 lives at best. Archer had some severe handicaps coming in to that fight, but he made the most with what he had, and being able to kill Herc 6 times in a row, while having no legend buffs, and average stats, is a testament to how strong EMIYA actually is

    • @unclecaramel
      @unclecaramel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In fate route i think archer doesn't remeber much of himself before and i really donlt think he manage to use ubw against herc at all. Pretty sure he beat him through just pure projection while being ingured my saber beforehand

  • @yogandi8922
    @yogandi8922 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Emiya is just goated, simple answer

  • @sleepyarcheremiya955
    @sleepyarcheremiya955 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That’s why he is the goat

  • @Silly_Illidan
    @Silly_Illidan ปีที่แล้ว +7

    FSN: The only series in which the OC is the GOAT

  • @hollowficate
    @hollowficate ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *EMIYA theme INTENSIFIED*

  • @vergilneedsmorepower473
    @vergilneedsmorepower473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's why he's The Goat, THE GOAT!

  • @heavencanceler2691
    @heavencanceler2691 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:00 Nasu basically retconned his own stuff because it would make Herc too OP. In the original Novel most likely Saber Alter just killed him multiple times in one big Excaliblast and/or stab or something like that. Like how Shirou took a ton of his lives in one shot with Caliburn as you said. OG text is basically that Berserker gain 100 Resistance to anything that hits him which isn't theoretically perfect defense if someone goes "above maximum" but will negate the vast majority of things.

    • @blueperiodfan4725
      @blueperiodfan4725 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its funny that salter actually can lost if herc doesnt get corrupted. she ran out of ways to kill herc even with the retcon.
      herc god hand is way too busted especially in grail war setting.

  • @faith4657
    @faith4657 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Being sometime seen we talked about emiya

  • @Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez
    @Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heracles felt the unbridled wrath of SHIROU FUCKING EMIYA!!!

  • @illumialter8755
    @illumialter8755 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:44 close enough. Welcome back Mahoraga

  • @GREAT_THE_MIYA
    @GREAT_THE_MIYA ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One thing that we all got to remember is that canonically, Emiya is the only servant who has done this feat "properly" multiple times, and without any external help + a clearly disadvantaged state (being locked fighting on an enclosed space vs a Berserker)
    Other one would be Vanilla Saber but it was only 1 life
    Shirou got help from Rin and Saber in the fate route, its basically a gangb*ng so to say and even with Saber on their side she still couldnt do anything except help shirou trace Caliburn with the power of love
    Heavens Feel Shirou used Archer's arm
    Saber Alter was able to do so because of her infinite Mana supply from Sakura, a proper master would probably be drained as hell with a morgan or two and thats assuming theyre a proper Magus, hell maybe even less
    Gil Touched the mud and was basically Reincarnated, no master to worry about either unlike Herc who was constantly protecting Illya during their fight
    Ritsuka and his servants in Okeanos needed to set traps and lure him in
    You can argue the prillya gang but im not keen on it because class cards basically just lets you borrow a fraction of a heroic spirit's power so it depends if you count that or not

    • @Rodiacreed
      @Rodiacreed ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The blasts that Saber Alter used against Heracles were her mana burst skill not Excalibur which she only used at the end of the fight for the giant explosion.

  • @secretsecret299
    @secretsecret299 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He held back bruh he didn't want to murder illya

  • @Cynical_Citizenz
    @Cynical_Citizenz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Garcher

  • @smoczystrumien7908
    @smoczystrumien7908 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Can Herc get resistance to fist? Like if Saber punch him to death will Herc grow resistance to it?

    • @tamamtamam8646
      @tamamtamam8646 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Theoritecly yes why not
      But its reguire saitama level punch

    • @lazharsassi6573
      @lazharsassi6573 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Saber wouldn't be able to hurt/kill him because saber herself is a human with no divinity and B strength. God Hand protects him against anything that isn't divine or under A rank. Achilles might be able to hurt Heracles with bare fists, because he is part divine and has B+ strength.
      But I doubt this would be enough to inflict lethal damage since Heracles body is extremely robust even without God Hand.
      But theoretically after Achilles would take one of his lives bye beating him to death he would get resist against kicks and punches.

    • @smoczystrumien7908
      @smoczystrumien7908 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lazharsassi6573 under Rin her strength stat is A, and I was curius. But woud he be resistant only to ahilles punches or overal all fist ataks.

    • @lazharsassi6573
      @lazharsassi6573 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smoczystrumien7908 Dude no way Saber has strength above B. Where'd you get that from.
      Though, I think the resistance would be overall.

    • @smoczystrumien7908
      @smoczystrumien7908 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lazharsassi6573 For saber fate stay night master rin stat strength is A rank is in novel or you can check google images.
      I just think that gaining resistance to most Basic form of atak is just wierd.
      I liked it beter for avenger Acildes and his Lion skin armor where any man made wepons are nulified but unarmd ataks are fine.
      For me it just make sense that pure strength just works.

  • @rozeazelios8836
    @rozeazelios8836 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man with no legend Boost
    Not A Demi God
    Nor someone special with Pioneer of the stars
    Just a Man who is trapped for Eon for cleaning humanity's Trash and in doing so, becoming one of the Top class despite him being a Nobody in the Grand scheme of things...

  • @salty7182
    @salty7182 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just as you expect from definitely not satan

  • @coast2coast-295
    @coast2coast-295 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One thing of note that I liked is that both the VN and the anime showed Emiya standing up before vanishing, and Heracles bleeding out like a pin cushion of swords. Emiya didn't lose to Heracles, the dude just straight up burned through all his and Rin's mana and vanished.

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he definitely loss you dsing but he went out like a G

  • @777DRay
    @777DRay ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos man

  • @carlossique9604
    @carlossique9604 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rewatched their fight not too long ago. And then this video came out

  • @itsarin2166
    @itsarin2166 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Emiya is pretty much the Batman of Heroic Spirits. While most other Heroic Spirits are demi god, dragon blood or famous figure, this guy is just a random human with third rate magecraft, persistence and a dream that somehow able to stand toe to toe against other servants even though servant statwise he should be a low tier due to him not even being a standard heroic spirit and lack of legend or fame.

  • @namelessking8527
    @namelessking8527 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ty, always thought abt this scene, need to collab on reanimating and making the fight even more realistic

  • @spiffybadgaster8454
    @spiffybadgaster8454 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now... This made me wonder how Kojiro defeated Heracles in Fate Unlimited Code What-if... I know it just what if but let's just think (Dont take it too serious)

    • @maverick5169
      @maverick5169 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      By Nasu's own admission, anything is canon. So yeah, UC arcade modes should be considered.

    • @desolatorstorm142
      @desolatorstorm142 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A buff?

    • @Hetsu..
      @Hetsu.. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In terms of swordplay isn't he on par with atoria, if he was buffed it's possible maybe

  • @ethanjohnson5085
    @ethanjohnson5085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hercules is my favorite character from fate stay night. Sometimes i feel bad when his lives are taken. Idky i like him so much but i do

  • @dante_dmc3
    @dante_dmc3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He is just built different like his swords man he probably loves swords

  • @gilvan4158
    @gilvan4158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video , what about a video of EMIYA vs fate/stay night servants ? :)

  • @AllOtakuProductions
    @AllOtakuProductions ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ufotable!!! I need this fight reanimated!!!! Please!!!!!!😫

  • @carlosgarza400
    @carlosgarza400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Goatia

  • @randomguy8286
    @randomguy8286 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EMIYA is him.

  • @amenadieljoyeuse3955
    @amenadieljoyeuse3955 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Composite Archer
    True Name: Beyond Emiya
    SPECIES: High-Servant, Saint & Magus
    GENDER: Male HEIGHT: 186cm
    WEIGHT: 90kg Type: Counter Guardian
    PARAMETER
    STRENGTH: B ENDURANCE: A AGILITY: A+
    MANA: A LUCK: B (EX) NP: A++ (EX)
    ARMAMENTS
    Mantle, Knife, Pistol, Holy Shroud & Avalon
    CLASS SKILLS
    Independent Action: A+
    Magic Resistance: A
    Presence Concealment: A+
    Personal Skills
    • Clairvoyance (A Rank):
    • Mind's Eye [True] (A Rank):
    • Magecraft (A Rank):
    • Projection Magecraft (B -> Conditionally EX Rank):
    • Trace On: Circuit Connection (EX Rank):
    • Ultimate Enchantment (EX Rank):
    • Wrought Iron Will (A+ Rank):
    • Affection of the Holy Grail (A+ Rank):
    • Bulletproof Treatment (A Rank):
    • Scapegoat (C Rank):
    Noble Phantasm
    Infinite Creation of Swords
    [Unlimited Blade Works] (E~A++ Rank)
    Forever Distant Golden Sword
    [Excalibur Image] (A Rank)
    The Everdistant Utopia [Avalon] (EX Rank)
    The Void Creation of Swords
    [Unlimited Lost Works] (E~A++ Rank)
    Gather Ye Rosebuds While Ye May
    [Chronos Rose] (B+ Rank)
    Mystery Bisection [Phantasm Punishment]
    (C+ Rank)
    Sandalphon, Lord of Execution [Judgement] (EX Rank)

  • @lorenbrown7100
    @lorenbrown7100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I need to know where this scene 5:43 Is from I don't know why but seeing archer and kiritsugu walk past emiya just seems I can't even describe how cool it is but fr we're is this scene from

  • @regend7327
    @regend7327 ปีที่แล้ว

    Emiya woke up and chose violence

  • @Nahgato
    @Nahgato ปีที่แล้ว +3

    so herc is pretty much doomsday from dc..

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The goat blessed us with his presence? Yeah man I myself have always likened him to the hulk cause he got crazy feats like this too. But now that you mention it, him and doom do share some similarities. This Herc weakest form btw. Crazy right?

    • @TsiahIV
      @TsiahIV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You gotta peep this video that im working on. It's gonna cover everything about Archer Herc and his master in Strange Fake. It will actually blow your top.

    • @Nahgato
      @Nahgato ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TsiahIV thats actually busted that this isnt even his strongest form.. dude already takes everything to kill.. and he even more op than that and an archer class at that.. wild.!

  • @DripAlucard
    @DripAlucard ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yooo what's up yall

  • @harryblocks
    @harryblocks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simple.
    He just makes exploding swords

  • @lazharsassi6573
    @lazharsassi6573 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even tho Emily's skills with weapons might not be as good as Diarmuid or Saber's and his physical parameters are not as overwhelming like Heracles or Achilles, I often forget how versatile his arsenal in weapons is and what impact it can have in any battle.
    He has access to a lot of different strategies, in close range or long range combat.
    We saw how much Saber struggled against Herc on the graveyard and she coughed only one opening with Caliburn.
    Emiya had to land a clean hit on him 6 times.
    If Caliburn or Excalibur didn't take multiple lives, she would never be able to get this far.

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Tbh you cant exactly Judge Emiya on Stats Parameter because his Stats are Deceptive, Since he can change his stats easily by using traced NP and skills of traced weapons, by overcharging his Magic circuits, Reinforcement,etc

    • @Rodiacreed
      @Rodiacreed ปีที่แล้ว

      Saber was nerfed in the graveyard and saying without Excalibur she wouldn't have gotten far makes no sense since the same could be applied to any servant and their noble phantasm. Would Emiya have gotten far without UBW/Projection? Would Gil have gotten far without GoB?

  • @jmspicer96
    @jmspicer96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let's go

  • @stephenenetama8335
    @stephenenetama8335 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @user-en8tt4uu3g
    @user-en8tt4uu3g ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't Sleep on FRANKENSTEIN Next please and more Emiya

  • @pippooni1787
    @pippooni1787 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He could have won that fight, period. EMIYA, is a way too complete Servant, for not having ONE chance to win. Worst case scenario, he could have went for the suicide attack, reproducing Excalibur killing Heracles and dying himself in the process.
    Let’s be honest, he lost this fight for ONE main reason: “Plot”

    • @mariomario-dy1kc
      @mariomario-dy1kc ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering how Shirou with a fraction of Emyia's power took 9 lives from Berserker in an instant, it would stand to logic EMYIA should've been able to take all 12.

    • @jorienwachukwu466
      @jorienwachukwu466 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mariomario-dy1kc 7. Shirou took 7 lives, and with help from Saber.

    • @mariomario-dy1kc
      @mariomario-dy1kc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jorienwachukwu466 I'm talking about the Heaven's Feel route, not the Fate Route.

    • @tavoa952
      @tavoa952 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mariomario-dy1kc blackened herc didnt have god hand, and nine lives didn't work in berserker herc ( nasu said he
      can counter it)

  • @suryaandika6084
    @suryaandika6084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Emiya just being considered to Rin
    He is not using his full access magical energy from Rin, in order for threesome mana transfer scene for reader!!

  • @ahmadirfan3282
    @ahmadirfan3282 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NINE LIVE BLADE WORK

  • @bhanupriyainampudi6852
    @bhanupriyainampudi6852 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can you make a video on shiki tohno ciel and arcueid from tsukihime

  • @omariwashington2570
    @omariwashington2570 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Tslah IV, If all the Shiro's fought each other, who would win it's just a question I know a lot of people would want an answer for.

    • @lexlsky
      @lexlsky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EXTRA EMYIA obviously or am i wrong ?

    • @omariwashington2570
      @omariwashington2570 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lexlsky I'm referring to Shiro from each route not Archer

  • @ajdinimsirovic2757
    @ajdinimsirovic2757 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can someone explain to me how Caliburn(Rank B), downgraded to Rank C, because Shiro used a projection, managed to take 7 of Herc's lives, yet a Broken Phantasan Caladbog, which distorts space and is Rank A, didn't take even one

    • @Reingnus
      @Reingnus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The fact that it took multiple lives to begin with it doesn't make sense to begin with.

    • @r.k845
      @r.k845 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Because in the VN Hercules deflected the broken phantasm.
      Saber never even killed him once in the VN.

    • @Reingnus
      @Reingnus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@r.k845 Shiro and Saber stabbed Herkules together, if I remember correctly. They both killed him.

    • @flamelover1746
      @flamelover1746 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think him using it alongside Saber, the original owner, brought it back to it's original power.

    • @Reingnus
      @Reingnus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Maoshen5 That's pure speculation. Heck, even Archer that it's objectively better, still ranks down.

  • @razz9034
    @razz9034 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First?
    Also Emiya built Different

  • @alexong2542
    @alexong2542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3 words
    Unlimited Blade Works

  • @kxng_kxng1639
    @kxng_kxng1639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next person is karna

  • @memedealer2018
    @memedealer2018 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Then in unlimited blade works he makes it very clear that even nuking Heracles wasn't going to do shit other than slowing him down

  • @M.W.2
    @M.W.2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What about sasaki and Heracles fight? When did this even stated?

  • @yandereneko5523
    @yandereneko5523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Summer Servants ranked canonically?

  • @ainzooalgown1426
    @ainzooalgown1426 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16 days of asking for TATARI

  • @pandoraspixel3367
    @pandoraspixel3367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only emiya had an actual legend to back him up, he would probably contend with the higher tiered servants in fate. 😅

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He actually does have a Legend But it wasnt Just as Big as others to be recognized as a Proper Heroic Spirit(and it took years after he got recognized as one) + He was summoned in wrong Timeframe in Staynight since his Legend doesnt exist yet thats why he was even more nerfed than usual

  • @JeongUlrich
    @JeongUlrich ปีที่แล้ว

    And that is why we're all GAR for GARcher.

  • @user-en8tt4uu3g
    @user-en8tt4uu3g ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Iskandar VS Ozymandias VS Achilles Who is the top strongest Rider?

  • @noahhicks471
    @noahhicks471 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello I was just wondering is there any chance you're going to remake don't sleep on a Emiya? Since you gotten a lot better with that type of videos

  • @adityasingh1974
    @adityasingh1974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make a video on how powerful counter gaurdian. emiya can be

  • @Acekilla99
    @Acekilla99 ปีที่แล้ว

    okay but can we talk about how broken saber wouldve been if she had her true noble phantasm in these newer fates

  • @darkwing8632
    @darkwing8632 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nah Heracles put some respect on his name

  • @sourwolf95
    @sourwolf95 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now lasengle please release new servant of him with his counter guardian form

  • @justaweirdtree9645
    @justaweirdtree9645 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gonna be honest, Eye of Mind (True) is a little bit broken.

  • @marquisburrell
    @marquisburrell ปีที่แล้ว

    Do u have a discord? I need to talk to u about something. U seem more open minded to listen to facts and opinions than most fate fans

  • @foodoftherinnegan1583
    @foodoftherinnegan1583 ปีที่แล้ว

    My head cannon is he used caliburn after spamming all his abilities that are A rank opens up and opportunity and hits him but he is to fatigued and only takes a few life’s like 2

  • @otakunemesis34
    @otakunemesis34 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Attempt 1 of asking you to do a video on world of darkness.

  • @DaniG._.German
    @DaniG._.German ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can Emiya summon Rule Breaker? If so, what would have happened if Emiya stabbed Heracles with Rule Breaker?

    • @desolatorstorm142
      @desolatorstorm142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1. Yes. 2. Low rank lol.

    • @Asphyx12
      @Asphyx12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@desolatorstorm142 But isn't the point of rule breaker not to stab but to rewrite the rule ? i may be wrong tho.

  • @Drahcoul
    @Drahcoul ปีที่แล้ว

    How strong is emiya truly

    • @desolatorstorm142
      @desolatorstorm142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Going by interview matchups by Nasu. Stronger than Kojirou on anything but a fight that's purely CQB fight (so yes, you can scale him off of that), and able to stalemate/fight on par with Medusa or a full-powered Saber. Story wise is also implied to be able to beat Cu if he starts at range given that EMIYA literally blocks Cu's way home in HA, and he says earlier that he'd be willing to fight if someone challenges him.

    • @Drahcoul
      @Drahcoul ปีที่แล้ว

      @@desolatorstorm142 🙏🏾

  • @DYhalto250
    @DYhalto250 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Reason and how.. plot needed it to happen. Herc keeps getting the nerf bat for story sake.

    • @14megasxlr
      @14megasxlr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just because he got positive-diff’d doesn’t meant he got nerfed.

    • @Serascale
      @Serascale ปีที่แล้ว +4

      pff. Emiya got nerfed in every rout

    • @user-pm9ev3up5t
      @user-pm9ev3up5t ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Technically Speaking Emiya is the Most nerfed Servant here since he is a CG

  • @bluespeed7406
    @bluespeed7406 ปีที่แล้ว

    i whould say emiya used ubw but did not use all his wepons in his reality marbel like oath under snow shirou did
    because he clashed with EA and held his own for a while granted he did loose the clash but it is still EA he clashed with and i doubt that even if Heracles had all his 12 lives he whould have survived EA

  • @anime_walls2099
    @anime_walls2099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So basically spam click

  • @lmeobuh7009
    @lmeobuh7009 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's something quite impressive for a guy who is one of the main characters but have 0 plot armor