Xbox Game Pass Changes: No Longer The Best Deal In Gaming? | Spot On

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  • @Mysticbladegod
    @Mysticbladegod 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Subscriptions remove the power of ownership and control from the consumer.

    • @johnelliott7850
      @johnelliott7850 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@overused6632 The ever increasing mass of people who are OK with being powerless in the face of giant corporations.

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂"control"😂😂😂"powerless"😂😂😂

    • @CarTastic-fv6eo
      @CarTastic-fv6eo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its just modern form of communism ...

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CarTastic-fv6eo 😂

    • @URk1nG
      @URk1nG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, they already control it if you own digital games by having DRM on licensing.

  • @DBX79
    @DBX79 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    To be honest this price change is confusing for people like me that haven’t even purchased the platform yet. It’s making it appear like newcomers should just go for Game Pass Ultimate when it may not be needed. Sony needs to stop with the price increases also.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not gonna happen as the gamepass style services are extremely expensive.
      Nintendo switch online is cheap but that is only because the games on the service are extremely old stuff made back in the 1990s and the online functionality is a lot worse.

  • @RainWalker24c
    @RainWalker24c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    I actually play at least 3 games(usually more) added every month for the month going on 3yrs now. So yeah, still definitely worth it for me

    • @thedude8128
      @thedude8128 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Let me correct this
      'I actually replay 3 old games a month for the past 3 yrs, I'm not very bricht so I keep subbing to it while getting new flops like redfall, starfield and hellblade 2, I also don't play cod so theres that too' 😂

    • @AllThingsInfamous1
      @AllThingsInfamous1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thedude8128😂😂😂

    • @moghater
      @moghater 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@thedude8128 I don't get it... And what is the problem of playing "old" games that are good? Is not like good old games magically gets bad with time...
      I rarely play games on release or even recently released, and I bet there are many people like me. And yes, the game pass day one could change that and all, but it doesn't sound financially viable.
      There is a huge amount of good "old" games on the market, and many of them are also on game pass....
      That being sad, I can't really keep up with playing 3 games a month, those times are gone for me D:

    • @RainWalker24c
      @RainWalker24c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@thedude8128 Cod, you got that right. I value my time to much, no interest in the slightest. The rest not so much. You spelled bright..bricht☠. I really don't care much for 1st party in general on all platforms. If you strictly only play 1st party & aaa..that is just sad dude😂. Yes of course some are "old", along with day 1s. Extremely rare I replay games I completed anymore. To many games of interest to keep replaying same ones over again. Some yes, but very very few. Have a good day..dude

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thedude8128still better than anything on ps..

  • @Oppositesleeper
    @Oppositesleeper 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I cancelled a few months back and thanks to gamepass making sure i own nothing my xbox sits forgotten about and unused. This essentially just ensures im done with microsoft.

  • @andrewwilliams9601
    @andrewwilliams9601 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Price hikes always leave a bad taste in fans, but stopping things like stacking subscriptions can anger us more to the point of cancelling altogether.

  • @johnnyjets2343
    @johnnyjets2343 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I play mainly using a combo of PC and PS5. I haven't had a sub service in over 2 years now. They aren't worth it to me. It's better imo to wait for sales and buy select games that interest me than constantly forking over money monthly to these greedy corporations.

    • @StarEnterprise72
      @StarEnterprise72 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree, I used to have it, but then I realized I don't play much of the mainstream titles on gamepass and that the games I'm interested in weren't on gamepass. Like warhammer, armored core, star ship troopers, etc. I just realized that eventually, I would be paying more in total than the worth of the games I was playing, so I just bought them when they went on sale and continue to buy games that interest me on sale to this day.

  • @Gaskinmoo79
    @Gaskinmoo79 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Classic big business. Corner the market, raise the prices.

    • @URk1nG
      @URk1nG 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blame Sony, Ubislop, and EA for that. They lead the charge on Hardware and Software pricing increase

  • @philipberlanda
    @philipberlanda 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Im not a fan of the idea of everything being a subscription.
    For that much money you can buy a bunch of games on sale/used.
    If you need to buy xbox gamepass core for multiplayer. Then play all the games on core that you want and then dont buy other games until you dont have need it.

  • @illestrated4191
    @illestrated4191 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If AAA game = $70 & GP Ultimate = $20/month then 1 year of GP Ultimate = $240 which is more than the cost of 3 games/year.
    I don't buy three AAA games per year, so I certainly wouldn't subscribe to a catalog worth 3 AAA games/year if I don't own the games at the end.

    • @StarEnterprise72
      @StarEnterprise72 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I play none so I just canceled lol

  • @thegreatspartan738
    @thegreatspartan738 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I don’t think it’s been a messy transitional year for them, it’s been a messy transitional 10 years at least 😅

  • @IMDLEGEND
    @IMDLEGEND 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t understand why almost nobody is talking about the inevitable ad supported Game Pass.

  • @perrydaciuk6308
    @perrydaciuk6308 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am NOT a fan of the price increases at all.
    However, the BIG problem with the recent announcement of Game Pass changes and price increases is they nerfed Game Pass for Console, and only giving Day One Releases + Cloud Gaming to console users with Game Pass Ultimate. This is BS. Game Pass Standard SHOULD include Day One releases. I have always seen Ultimate as the COMBINATION of the best of both console and PC. I would prefer to see:
    - Game Pass Core = Xbox Network + Back Catalogue + Deals @ $9.99 per month (or $69.99 Annually)
    - Game Pass Standard = Xbox Network + Back Catalogue + Day One Releases + Deals @ $14.99 per month
    - Game Pass PC = PC Back Catalogue + Day One PC Releases + Deals + EA Play @ $11.99 per month
    - Game Pass Ultimate = Combination of Game Pass Standard & Game Pass PC + Cloud Gaming + Perks @ $19.99 per month
    Only Ultimate would include Cloud gaming natively. I would then create Xbox Cloud Gaming as a separate item that could be added to either Core, Standard, or PC for $1.99 extra per month. Bottom line: There needs to be a Tier for console that includes Day One Releases without having to go to Ultimate (where console gamers are paying for PC access and Cloud gaming they may not want or ever use).
    And YES! Online access should be FREE on consoles!

  • @Dantevonlocke
    @Dantevonlocke 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Yes it is. Ultimate and core are going up a few bucks. They're adding a new tier between those that splits the difference. It is still worth it. $240 a year for ultimate is 3-4 new games in cost. I can play that in one month on top of the tons of indie and 3rd party games and make my moneys worth for the year.

    • @thedude8128
      @thedude8128 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      When do you ever get 3 new games a month? 😂

    • @skeletorsnan8161
      @skeletorsnan8161 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@thedude8128 did you not understand their comment? any game their playing for the first time would have beena game theyd have to buy, but they now install with no payment outside of game pass. they play about 3 new games a month, yet the cost of game pass is 3-4 new (triple A) games

    • @thedonzhorzh
      @thedonzhorzh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Look at that guy, owning nothing and being happy.

    • @rokmare
      @rokmare 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Core is not up a few bucks it's a $15 increase from 60 to 75

    • @jat9926
      @jat9926 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I plan on doing Six Months then Six Months for Games Pass Ultimate when i go for the Digital Series X because i usually dont get new games unless theres a good sale price or its something i really want.

  • @GeorgeNikou-m4l
    @GeorgeNikou-m4l 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Store sales being locked behind Gamepass subscription is just sad. Next gen ill be switching over to PS6 and obviously continue on pc/Steam.

    • @psychoticd6891
      @psychoticd6891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have fun with that thousand dollar console judging from the ps pro. Just stick to pc, console gaming is dying

    • @GeorgeNikou-m4l
      @GeorgeNikou-m4l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @psychoticd6891 Yeah, I wouldn't buy a console for $700. Rather, upgrade my pc

  • @Nick-pc9tf
    @Nick-pc9tf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just the top of my head for this year: Senua 2, OctoPath 2, Chained Echoes, Second replay of Persona 3 Reload, Jedi Survivor.
    Still the best deal in gaming to me.

  • @tmacnavyseal4789
    @tmacnavyseal4789 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    after 13 months xbox will probably raise prices again

  • @BillNyeGuy
    @BillNyeGuy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    5 dollars more for ultimate and it includes COD. For 20 we get Xbox, indies, EA, etc etc. Still not bad at all.

    • @rikimarizard
      @rikimarizard 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The difference is PS+ Premium and Extra are both available at a discount. You can get Premium for around $99 a year and Extra for slightly more
      Compare that with almost double for Game Pass and GP is looking less like a good idea for consumers

    • @skimandla
      @skimandla 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ps plus is now better than GP standard
      ​@@shifterzx

  • @PLAYER_42069
    @PLAYER_42069 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The phrase "CoD Tax" has been coined for the Game Pass price increases, but a price increase was inevitable, regardless, of Xbox acquiring Activision/CoD, or not. However, Xbox is gambling on the appeal a "cheaper" GP subscription will entice casual CoD players more than the PlayStation $70+ price tag. What they fail to realize is the majority of CoD players are on PS, already. So, if a PS player wanted to get a "cheaper" deal, they still have to fork out $300-$500 (Series S, or X) for a new console + Game Pass Ultimate that includes online. Nobody is talking about these "hidden" fees... Especially, not Xbox. Also, let's say, a CoD player decides to play BO6 on GP, console or PC. They'll quickly realize to maintain access to the game, they'll have to keep paying a monthly GP subscription that eventually adds up to far more than a one time $70 purchase where they own the game outright. So, it's not as easy a sell as Xbox is hoping, but we'll see this Fall, if the CoD-Game Pass gamble pays off, and if it raises GP subscription numbers on the back of these price increases, or not.

    • @absurdlynerd9904
      @absurdlynerd9904 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The majority of CoD players are on PC. Xbox knows this won’t flip PS players to Xbox for the most part but it could convert a lot of PC CoD players to Game Pass subscribers and then they’ll stay for their other first party games because “well it’s only $20”.

  • @jrbarentine
    @jrbarentine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I cancelled my PC game pass and once my yearly game core runs out I'm done with it

  • @weirdscix
    @weirdscix 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They seem to have overcomplicated the description of this, the only tier with no day one access is core. Console, PC and Ultimate all include day one. PC and Ultimate also include EA Play.

    • @rokmare
      @rokmare 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      GP Console is gone it's only available to those who currently have it the replacement standard tier is worse with no day one releases

    • @weirdscix
      @weirdscix 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rokmare like I said, not according to Microsoft on xbox website. Published on July 17th. It lists Core 9.99, Console $10.99, PC 9.99 and Ultimate 16.99, Core is basically replacing Gold with 25 game limit and no EA or Day One, Console has more games plus day one, this is all on the official site and called 'Introducing Xbox Game Pass Core, Coming this September'

    • @weirdscix
      @weirdscix 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rokmare You are correct, I had to look at other places because they don't mention that at all on the article

  • @MultiplexityGaming
    @MultiplexityGaming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    its still a great deal. Even better if you are simply a PC game pass subscriber. You still get day one xbox titles with game pass on top of all the normal titles on there but only a $2 jump in price. It went from $9.99 to $11.99. a lot of subscription tv/movie services are arguably worse deals.

    • @carlosl5858
      @carlosl5858 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Game pass PC is still a great deal

    • @araccardi
      @araccardi 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Used to pay 60$ for an entire year of gold. Xbox and microsoft can shove it

  • @CypressTVreal
    @CypressTVreal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still the best deal .. an extra few dollars a month doesn't change that honestly. If you play more then 3 day one then it's still the deal ... No one else offers this many day one games plus a huge library the size of game pass

    • @constipatedparker5879
      @constipatedparker5879 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What I like about game pass is they sometimes shadow drop games with big names. Games on my wishlist like RE3, Dead Island 2, Callisto protocol and now Mafia DE I can just install & play.

  • @DubdubTheOne
    @DubdubTheOne 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wish when you talked about this subscription you didn't just focus on the Chislet POV. In my opinion there are three parties to the subscription: 1) customers, 2) studios and 3) Microsoft. I think there's probably some negatives on the economics for companies...it creates a safety net but I wonder if it also reduces the heights of some companies' revenue

  • @CCoreXB
    @CCoreXB 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is going to cost them a lot of subscribers, at a time when they desperately need to see their subscription growth in numbers!

  • @mappybc6097
    @mappybc6097 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All the current MS strategy is telling me is that Phil flat out lied to Series S/X owners.
    They are not the priority. On the contrary, they are treated as second class citizens.
    I think I've seen like 5 Series S/X ads in real life. Marketing for their console is already next to non-existent in the UK, and they are thinking of cutting it back even more?
    They put 1st party games on PS5 and make PC Gamepass objectively better than Core and Standard.
    Almost as if they actively wanted potential new consumers to play anywhere other than Series consoles.
    I'm sorry, but I'm done.
    I'm not throwing my Series X away or canceling what's left of my legacy Gamepass subscription, but this was the last Xbox console for me.

  • @matt97342
    @matt97342 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do think its worth it. I am always trying new games I would never consider buying otherwise. And I always play the day 1 games. The only thing that annoys me, is when they did their xbox showcase they said they would not up the price of game pass. And then all of a sudden they did out of no where... thats annoying. Dont lie about it when asked and then do it later when the hype is up.

  • @ChrisLT
    @ChrisLT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    It still is, by far.

  • @MooMooTheWolf
    @MooMooTheWolf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The Steam Deck might be the best possible deal in gaming at the moment.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      It is more expensive than the series s. So not really. And it goes all the way up to $549-649. For the oled.

    • @ozmanoshe
      @ozmanoshe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Probably means the value proposition rather than the base unit price.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@ozmanoshethe price is too expensive especially for the oled, the one everyone tells you to get. I can't really say the value proposition is there. Some people like gaming hdnehlds sure but it is gonna take a lot of convincing to make people fork $549 for a handheld with 512gb of storage. Especially parents.

    • @ryantheradical
      @ryantheradical 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oo--7714oh really?? If I’m not mistaken you have to pay to play online with Xbox.. whereas on PC you game online for free.. in the end pc is more valuable for saving money long term despite the upfront cost..

    • @MarluxiaX2
      @MarluxiaX2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@oo--7714 100% agreed. And I'm a Steam Deck owner also

  • @toot1st105
    @toot1st105 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Where was this last year when sony increased thier by prices 35%

    • @freeweights101
      @freeweights101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Because we don't brag about ps plus. You guys brag about subscriptions. PS players brag about buying

    • @molokomongalo6003
      @molokomongalo6003 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The issue is they're increasing price while removing features

    • @ImSo3vil89
      @ImSo3vil89 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@freeweights101edgy

  • @JAZ_VEIGA
    @JAZ_VEIGA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's really not that complicated. I dont understand why it's hard to recommend when there is no other competitor really doing anything comparable. Basically, if you play more than 2 full priced games a year on the subscription, you're getting your moneys worth.

    • @Silverarrow2
      @Silverarrow2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't buy full price games that often now. If you can wait you normally get a better experience, as so many games are buggy at launch. After a few months and a few patches, they are way better and also cheaper. If you have just bought an Xbox and have no games, then for sure Game Pass is a no brainer...

    • @TheKennyboy92
      @TheKennyboy92 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ps Plus has more games and is cheaper.

  • @williehew
    @williehew 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    If and when I eventually get an Xbox (Series X or even the next gen iteration) I’ll still see heaps of value in Game Pass Ultimate and will probably sign up month-to-month/3-months at a time. So long as *higher sub costs* mean *more dev job security*

    • @TheKennyboy92
      @TheKennyboy92 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That is not how that works.....The money is so MS can make more profit. It does not mean more job security.

    • @williehew
      @williehew 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheKennyboy92 Oh I know, I was just being hopeful.

    • @TheKennyboy92
      @TheKennyboy92 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@williehew Yeah sadly MS closed Tango after providing a hit for them with Hifi Rush,

  • @tutacat
    @tutacat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here's a thought: put $5/mo into a savings, af the end of the year you can buy a whole new game. Think about how much it costs you and how much it's worth. They can do it "cheaper" because not all will play all games, but they can pool the revenue to get more bargaining power.

  • @LukeMiloDesign
    @LukeMiloDesign 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I mostly play 3rd party games on gamepass though so I’m snot sure I care about the day and date as much. Just this year on gamepass I’ve played:
    SpiritFarer
    Inscription
    Diablo IV (I guess that’s 1st party now - but wasn’t day and date)
    Jedi Survivor
    Harold Halibut
    Starfield
    Age of Empires II
    Lightyear Frontier
    Little Gator Game (my daughter)
    Open Roads
    Blasphemous
    & PalWorld
    If I had to purchase all those games I would’ve spent way more than I have on my GamePass sub so far.

    • @batzytoys
      @batzytoys 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thats a nice list. i just started harold

    • @GetShrekd
      @GetShrekd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      yeah, except you would have actually kept the games past the subscription. who knows? you may have even been able to sell the games

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@GetShrekdmost people on xbox spend games digitally, the series s outsold the x by 3 to 1. Xbox is planning to go all digital unlike sony and nintendo.

    • @artdog0100
      @artdog0100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@GetShrekdsell to who Ebay or private collectors? Gamestop is a complete rip off too. Can't get a kid these days to even look at classic games.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@artdog0100 in the uk you can sell them to cex. And even then it is better having the ability to sell them then to just let them rot. Something that is a issue on steam wehre people have thousands of unplayed games.

  • @Fuzzynator96
    @Fuzzynator96 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If you think it’s still not a good deal you’re a 🤖 so many day 1 games it’s insane Xbox knows what they’re doing. I think thier plan eventually will make them a service only company

  • @masonrock
    @masonrock 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I hate that everyone is crying after spending the last 18 months forecasting the price hike. YOU set the precedent by telling everyone to expect the price increase once the Activision deal went through. Now you want to complain that it’s happened! GPU is still the best deal in gaming. The amount of games you get, the freedom to play on almost any device. You don’t even need an Xbox. Go get an Odin 2 or an LCD Steamdeck and play to your hearts content. Fun fact: you don’t have to worry about COD’s anticheat if you use GP to play it. Just saying.

  • @lukmanlukman6847
    @lukmanlukman6847 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whatever you say. The fan still think it is the best

  • @MichelRonyjunior-ud4gk
    @MichelRonyjunior-ud4gk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really like my game pass after I tried game pass I will never ever go back buying cd disc again wasting money over and over game pass is a game changer im a ps fans now i do not care about ps5 exclusive i have a pc and a Rogue ally now im good i do not might play ps5 exclusive after 4 years instead of spent buch of money on cd a disc cost 70 after finishing the game you don’t want to play it again but in the other hand different for game pass

  • @eth0eduardo
    @eth0eduardo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    For me, gamepass is still a great deal.

    • @namelesshunter4714
      @namelesshunter4714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeh for ulimate but no day one on standart.

  • @DJ_Shenanigan00
    @DJ_Shenanigan00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Still cheaper than Netflix and considering the games coming its still a amazing deal,so not really a issue and we have been expecting the price increase.

  • @SteadyAscension
    @SteadyAscension 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    These two were happy to make this video, let’s be honest.

    • @hELLLcs
      @hELLLcs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      haha for sure!!

    • @germainm8600
      @germainm8600 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They really thought “ooo we’re gonna get MS and we’re gonna trend on TH-cam” 🤣

    • @phillipalleva-cox3903
      @phillipalleva-cox3903 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They never miss an opportunity that's for sure.

    • @araccardi
      @araccardi 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have fun playing your broken newly released games for a modest subscription fee every month. I call that a sucker

  • @gmalanga
    @gmalanga 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    The prices of everything eventually go up. Why is this crazy? It's a business, not charity.

    • @miki49
      @miki49 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Gets to a point where it isn’t gonna be worth the price

    • @CheeseTuber
      @CheeseTuber 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Because spending power is not going up and the deal becomes something that isn't worth it anymore. Like you said, it's a business, not charity. That statement works both ways.

    • @mator5977
      @mator5977 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Obviously but it’s been the issue from the beginning. It’s not sustainable. They will raise prices to make up cost of making these games but then it will eventually reach a point where it’s not worth the out put for the price

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@miki49it will have to get to that point,it isn't sustainable at all.
      Not to mention inflation but even gampass is a recipie for burning money.

    • @toot1st105
      @toot1st105 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly sony raised theirs by 35% last year!

  • @galenryder
    @galenryder 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was briefly mentioned in this but feel like Microsoft's own production problems kneecapped the original Game Pass pitch from the beginning. The whole "Get Game Pass to play Xbox Studios games Day 1" was the pitch and initially the annual price of Game Pass was approximately the cost of buying two full priced games a year. So the math was if you were going to play two new Xbox Studios games that year then everything else was a bonus.
    But they've barely managed to get out two full priced games a year. Most years it's just been Obsidian (their true workhorse) filling in the gaps. So Game Pass has always been more about the games they've signed from other publishers. And as the costs have gone up it's less and less worth it to get Game Pass to play their games. But even with these price increases it's currently still a pretty good deal if your playing a lot of the $30 / $40 games available Day One on the service. Since I find there is at least two of those a month I'll check out.
    I was just reading through their official announcement page and it doesn't really seem like they've clarified what "Day One" games won't be on the standard tier. Obviously their own Day One games, this seems mostly to be a way for them to not include Black Ops 6 Day One but does it included the smaller technically Day One games they've signed from various indies? Like Flock came out today and unlike their own catalog those games are usually only signed for about a year so if their going to delay putting all Day One games on the Standard tier when it does come to that tier will it be available for less than a year?
    It just feels like their are a lot of logistical questions that we probably won't really know the answer to until the end of next year. Thankfully I got a crazy deal on GPU just before the last tier change so I'm good till 2026 and I can let these changes play out before I decide if I want to resubscribe but I feel like if your paying month-to-month right now you really should be only subbed if the games your playing that month cost more to buy than your sub.

  • @Calladim
    @Calladim 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I prefer to own my games and movies. Too many subs these days. Too many things come and go. And what about dlc?

  • @ghost1b235
    @ghost1b235 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Need to change the name XBox to COD machine.

  • @xorrior4438
    @xorrior4438 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When you guys are slow folks finally going to catch on. MS is nefarious when it comes to the gaming industry. They have no respect for gaming culture whatsoever. Abandon them, like they abandon every single promise they make.

  • @RBFR01
    @RBFR01 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about gamers who don't want game pass and only online access?

  • @GK_Squid
    @GK_Squid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As someone that's been a part of the Xbox ecosystem for 15 years, it's expected. The value is there imo. If I want a new game, theres a huge library.
    This is how the world works now. Everything gets increased, that's economics. How else will Microsoft pay for all their acquisitions?

  • @Ratedj86
    @Ratedj86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Still the best deal in gaming, despite media attempting desperately to shift the narrative

    • @c_marquez117
      @c_marquez117 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Seeing a lot of doom and gloom over a 3 dollar price increase lol.

    • @joshuamcneely3028
      @joshuamcneely3028 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@c_marquez117 I play a game maybe once or twice a month so seeing it raised at all makes me think it's not worth having it. Probably a lot more people like me that are just too busy to justify having it. 😊

    • @skeletorsnan8161
      @skeletorsnan8161 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshuamcneely3028 if you mean 1 new game a month, it would still be worth it as thats 12 games for 240. just depends i guess.

    • @WhateverWhenever888
      @WhateverWhenever888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ok tin foil hat man

  • @subjectbigy
    @subjectbigy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Didn’t they did the same thing with Starfield ?

  • @calvinkwok7158
    @calvinkwok7158 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I'm on Ultimate and it's about what 20$/month now, an increase of a cup of coffee? and you got to play ton of games on XBox and PC, how is this not still a good deal? You guys are ridiculous, lot of TH-camr just talk about this kind of things, cause they got nothing else to talk about.

    • @Richard-dt4ft
      @Richard-dt4ft 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Because they are not talking about you. They are discussing the big picture what it means the future etc
      Did you watch the video?

    • @RETR0_P0CKET
      @RETR0_P0CKET 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You used to be able to get access to day one games for $10 a month just like a year ago? It’s doubled to get that access.

    • @absurdlynerd9904
      @absurdlynerd9904 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RETR0_P0CKETit’s been $17 for over a year. It was $15 for multiple years before that. I could be wrong but don’t remember it ever being cheaper than $15 and if it was it was many years ago.

    • @araccardi
      @araccardi 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right. Good idea. Make subscription based. Make terrible games that dont function properly. Raise prices for terrible game. Give us games like concord

  • @msfantastico4139
    @msfantastico4139 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely Disgraceful from $21.95 to $28.95 for Gamepass Ultimate

  • @sidneyhenderson6859
    @sidneyhenderson6859 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I can't recall one single video like this when ps+ went up in price ...

    • @germainm8600
      @germainm8600 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Facts!

    • @toot1st105
      @toot1st105 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      By 35% too

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Xbox is third place that's why

    • @longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24
      @longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Facts yo! Where’s the PlayStation video?

    • @Pazikon
      @Pazikon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But they didn't say it's best value in gaming!

  • @DutchDillion
    @DutchDillion 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Phil Spencer is completely incompetent and he's always been. Out of touch with anything in his department, shutting down Arkane and Tango, killing XBOX'S Flagship franchises like Halo and Gears of War with DEI hiring. He needs to go the damage has already been done.

  • @IITzNeat
    @IITzNeat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    For $3 more i get to play jedi survivor diablo etc $70 games that id have to buy to play its still worth it

  • @StarScream777
    @StarScream777 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    PlayStation 5 has been great this year. there are multiple exclusives including the best selling and best critically rated games of 2024 with Helldivers 2 and FF7 Rebirth, do better at your job Lucy

  • @kingmana360
    @kingmana360 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Microsoft needs a "SOS".

  • @joshm9363
    @joshm9363 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a potential Xbox/Gamepass customer the price increase doesn’t make a difference to my sense of value I’d get buying in to the system. Price increases always happen and the value still looks really good if you’ve got the time for the games.
    Also as a potential customer, I already have a backlog of critically acclaimed games for other systems to play that I’ve bought cheaply on sale because I’m sure I’d like them and are now gathering dust. Obviously I should just play those.
    I reckon if I had already bought into Xbox Series I’d stick with Gamepass just fine and be content with it.
    There’s just no pull towards Xbox for me this generation however. I’m actually still happily gaming on PS4 and Switch. PS5 appeals more than Xbox but if I were to buy any remotely new hardware it’d be a Steam Deck. Maybe Gamepass could get me there?

  • @absurdlynerd9904
    @absurdlynerd9904 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The tiers aren’t that confusing. The naming convention is easier to follow than PS Plus where the games included in Premium rather than Extra really don’t seem to have any rhyme or reason to them. With Game Pass Standard all you need to know is you’ll have to wait a set amount of time for new games.

  • @kathleencalhoun-currie3052
    @kathleencalhoun-currie3052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mainly play Fallout 76.Luckily I get my ultimate through my son's account and he won't bat an eye about an extra $3 because it IS worth it when you see the price of new games these days! For me I'm just trying to keep up my Fallout First subscription, Sadly, Fallout 76 is pretty much unplayable without it! 😓

  • @takoshihitsamaru4675
    @takoshihitsamaru4675 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well, this is what it will mean for me.
    I will be forced to pay $100 a month just to play Call of Duty multiplayer online.
    Does that sound like a good deal?

  • @RH1812
    @RH1812 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was expected. It’s not THAT complicated. Especially as the PC tier is irrelevant to console users. Three tiers. Basic: Play on line. Standard: some stuff. Everything: Everything

  • @rikko47
    @rikko47 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Mhmm tryna Get that $69 Billion Back lol

  • @bray2079
    @bray2079 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    People should just shop around for games they actually want. You will usually only play one or two games at a time and most games that land on gamepass go through multiple sales before they hit gamepass. It was the reason I cancelled my gamepass.

    • @Ratedj86
      @Ratedj86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bray2079 yeah, those day one games go through several sales before hitting GP…

    • @bray2079
      @bray2079 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ratedj86how many of those games have been great. I’m talking about the good games on gamepass

  • @ThwartedGeek
    @ThwartedGeek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The more I think about this.... the less I'lll be subbing to GP

  • @N4xi
    @N4xi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Spot On should just be renamed downer news or something.
    This is the most depressing show Gamespot produces.
    P.S
    Honestly:
    Core = XBLG
    Standard = No Day One
    Console = Day One on Console
    PC = Day One on PC
    Ultimate all of the above + Cloud + EAPlay.

  • @tutacat
    @tutacat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Actually games pass is directly funding games development, so developers can be more sure of it, and include more features. Ifbthey want to be a netflix games this is really not surprising

  • @christopherloft
    @christopherloft 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Microsoft have lost the plot.

    • @SilveredDawn
      @SilveredDawn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Have they?

    • @Ratedj86
      @Ratedj86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      No, they didn’t

    • @miki49
      @miki49 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Most definitely

    • @rogeriofuruma7086
      @rogeriofuruma7086 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fr

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Nah, it was obivous gamepass was unsustainable, devs hated it and it was burning money, the price will go up thurther.
      Anyone with a brain knew this was gonna happen.

  • @Justjoshinh
    @Justjoshinh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    not sure why lucy said "playstation has 'jack @#$% this year'" stellar blade, rise of the ronin, final fantasy 7 rebirth.. just to name the 3 over its competitors, sure its not playstation studios games, but thats hardly true lucy. love ya alot but stop regurgitating social misinformation.... pretty please

  • @Ray__E
    @Ray__E 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People are reaching subscription fatigue. Jacking up the prices isn't going to help Xbox grow Gamepass. They are just delaying the inevitable when it comes to being a third party publisher.

    • @ricln5464
      @ricln5464 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What does Gamepass have to do to Xbox publishing games on multiple platforms? Gamepass it self is already on multiple devices

  • @jackpalmer7577
    @jackpalmer7577 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    More Microsoft hate. "Probably not" of course it still is! Cloud services far superior to playstation plus, day and date 1st and 3rd party games, a great way to be introduced to indies, backwards compatability where you're actually able to install the games, EA Play thrown into the mix, and you can access the same games on PC! What is this nonsense

    • @jackpalmer7577
      @jackpalmer7577 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And on top of that, these additional tiers just give people more choice as to what they want out of the service! How is that a negative? If you still want everything, stay on ultimate. That hasn't changed

    • @araccardi
      @araccardi 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      60 dollars for an entire year of gold is what i had to pay. No longer available now i must subscribe every month to play games online, so its another bill like my gas bill. The new games they give us are not even worth a dime. Battlefield 2042. I rest my case.

  • @rabbit2686
    @rabbit2686 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's never nice to see a price increase, but it won't change anything for me. I will continue to pay for one month, then cancel renewal until something big or interesting comes along.

  • @malamin
    @malamin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These two are always so joyless in their videos. You're talking about video games for chrissakes, cheer up!

  • @jessenorris6499
    @jessenorris6499 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    over 90% of GP users are already on Ultimate. Does $3 a month tip the scales if you're the type of customer interested in GPU? If you play anything mp that isn't f2p you need to then spend at least $75 a year on Core for mp access. Is it worth doing that and buying games that are on GP outright for most? The $240 a year ignores the value that is in the service if you're a customer interested in the 40+ day one titles and 500+ vault titles in the service. Do you want to use cloud? Do you play non-f2p mp games?
    The tiers were made less confusing, it's a straight upgrade path now, too.
    - Core gets you MP, deals, small vault
    - Standard gets you mp, deals, large vault
    - Ultimate gets you mp, deals, biggest vault, day one, PC, cloud, GPU perks, and ea play
    - PC gets you PC vault (over 500 now), day one games, and ea play for PC
    If you were on game pass console (very few were) you can keep it at the same price as before for as long as you keep it active. Nothing about this is "confusing" when it's your job to properly understand it.

  • @Chris-n1e9p
    @Chris-n1e9p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's worth 20. I got to spend 850 for just a Big Mac

  • @J.a.v.i
    @J.a.v.i 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Game Pass It's still the best value in gaming, so far! Expect yearly and by yearly price increases tho. So enjoy Game Pass while you can still afford it.

    • @Joe-ti7qd
      @Joe-ti7qd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not enough on there for me personally.

  • @gerardo_t2
    @gerardo_t2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    min 2:07 Lucy's face, that's your new meme right there

  • @parthibanspace
    @parthibanspace 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The most unacceptable thing is introducing the Game pass standard tier without day one games that would cost the same as legacy Game Pass for Console with day one games. Either there should be a price difference or legacy tier should be converted to standard once the stacked up subscription is exhausted. Same price, but no day one games to new subscribers could not be justified at all.

  • @oo--7714
    @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Hahahahahaa bro it was obvious it was unsustainable. Any one being shocked at this is crazy. Especially in this economy where prices get hicked like mad. You cannot expect something as cheap and as money burning as gamepass to be sustainable.
    Devs hated it, and microsoft was loosing a ton of money. They weren't even breaking even.
    It was only good for the subscribers, but that could not last.

  • @Suhadisgood
    @Suhadisgood 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please teach me how to get 13 months that’s gone you buy a Xbox live gold that’s $60 then pay for a 1 month ultimate game pass you get 13 months that deal is gone Microsoft now takes months away from you once you upgrade to ultimate you get 7 months instead of 13 months this has been happening since they changed it to core nobody is complaining

  • @Aragorn7884
    @Aragorn7884 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    if you need a flow chart or spreadsheet to game you know they eff'ed up...

  • @Tommy-gm7uo
    @Tommy-gm7uo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GamePass is just 2013 Xbox/MS but in a slightly more palatable format. You own nothing and you will keep paying the higher prices previously told would not happen.

  • @neolid1051
    @neolid1051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Talking bad about Xbox is the new black. Everyone wants a bite.

  • @vectorx2007
    @vectorx2007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Humble monthy is the best deal now, you kept the games forever

  • @phil2877
    @phil2877 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tamoor nails it when saying it feels more like Microsoft now than Xbox.
    Also worrying how many of the Summer Games Fest exclusives were at the presentation way before the Series X release. Where's Everwild now!?

  • @ProfessorChaos2050
    @ProfessorChaos2050 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Xbox game pass ultimate is definitely worth the $19.99 a month i'll continue my subscription on my xbox series x. I'm looking forward to playing black ops 6 vault edition upgrade with xbox game pass ultimate for $30.🥂😎

  • @njones2061
    @njones2061 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a non cod player I have no interest in continuing as a gp ultimate subscriber. I can live without day one releases

  • @Ali-yr1bk
    @Ali-yr1bk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't personally care about cloud or PC and day one releases as long as they come on later date to standard BUT EA games is also not on the GP standard make it useless.

  • @jasonsmith530
    @jasonsmith530 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Still no reason to pass on gamepass

    • @Joe-ti7qd
      @Joe-ti7qd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't think a reason to resub

    • @jasonsmith530
      @jasonsmith530 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Joe-ti7qd because there’s a game you might wanna play

  • @joaoguijz10
    @joaoguijz10 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    its 2 dollars

    • @miki49
      @miki49 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      3, and counting, with many games being removed and cycled out

    • @Joe-ti7qd
      @Joe-ti7qd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It keeps going up and will continue to.

    • @neolid1051
      @neolid1051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Joe-ti7qd That’s called inflation. Did you just find out about it? Tell me one single service or product that hasn’t gone up in price.

    • @Silverarrow2
      @Silverarrow2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Games in the steam pc sales are the cheapest I have ever seen at the moment... You also get to own them....

  • @evanperry44
    @evanperry44 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you play 3 or more games a year, yes…

  • @WeeWeeJumbo
    @WeeWeeJumbo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wha-WHAA? killing sales by renting games out for pennies on the dollar is UNSUSTAINABLE? imagine my shock

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      34M x $15 x 12months = ?

  • @DoctorSpock-q7z
    @DoctorSpock-q7z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Still a good deal though... I mean three more bucks a month big freaking deal!

  • @mbf6160
    @mbf6160 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The greed of these companies is DISGUSTING 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It isn't greed, gamepass is unsustainable. Do you think day 1 games and a lot of aaa titles on a subsciption service would be cheap come on man.

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@oo--7714unsustainable?
      All indie, 3rd party etc cost $1B in 2023.
      34M x $15 x 12months = over $6B..

  • @lexlopez15
    @lexlopez15 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always said standalone ea play was and still is the best deal in gaming. $5 a month or $30 a YEAR is simply too hard to beat. Who cares if it's all ea games there is a variety of them to keep you busy.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn't know it was that cheap. I might actually subscribe for a while.
      Thanks

    • @lexlopez15
      @lexlopez15 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @oo--7714 that's cause xbox only advertises it with gamepass ultimate making people think that's the only way to get it but you can subscribe separately and get the ea pricing instead...and they haven't raised it since they started.

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@lexlopez15I never cared about gamepass, I just didn't look into it properly. The price is pretty insane and it is cool that it is cross platform.
      If I just played fifa every year or something I'd be subbed for life. If I knew about this before I wouldn't have bought any ea games 😂.

    • @lexlopez15
      @lexlopez15 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @oo--7714 yeah, people don't talk about it much cause people have some kind of hatred towards everything ea....logically speaking, if people would realize that if they subscribe to gamepass to play the mass effect games or any of the star wars games they would in fact save almost 80% by just subscribing to ea play separately...
      Ubisoft has their own service too but it's more expensive than ea play.

  • @matthewpilla4323
    @matthewpilla4323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have ultimate and going up a couple of bucks is not too bad, JUST KEEP THE NEW GAMES COMING!!!!!

  • @bbqR0ADK1LL
    @bbqR0ADK1LL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sounds similar to Ubisoft. You pay the cheaper price for the "classics" & the higher price for newer games. Still an OK deal if you want to play a new single player game & beat it in a month.
    To be fair, I don't think Microsoft really care about selling you an Xbox anymore. If you get the tier with cloud gaming, you can play on your smart TV.

  • @arcangelqq
    @arcangelqq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you offer more content, you can’t ask for more money?

  • @natas12rm
    @natas12rm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They banking on cod being the factor? 😂😂😂 I haven’t bought a cod since ww2. I was going to keep it even after the last increase. My 2 year subscription I had for game pass just ended too. I renewed then the very next day they announced 20 a month. I canceled and got my money back. If I really want to play bo6 I will just wait a month until Black Friday.

  • @Tbear995
    @Tbear995 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know this isn't new but I just want to say I love this format of you guys just chatting about the news 😊 stay awesome Gamespot

  • @xxsnow_angelxx3953
    @xxsnow_angelxx3953 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The library is much less than steam and I hate fomo. So it isn't for me, even before this update.