“You will never be happy if you continue to search for what happiness consists of. You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life.” - Camus
what a wonderful opera my wife Musetta ( named from the opera ) introduced me a uneducated lad 53 years together and it’s great to be able to see this , i have with her seen many at covent garden, i hope to be with her again & together we will enjoy again my love .
I usually hate when people change the setting to a more contemporary time in operas. But Netrebko and Becala (sp) actually8 seem to be living this opera. This has to be the absolutely most poignant Mimi ever. I cried throughout the opera. Netrebko was the absolute best Mimi.
She was in the sense that her Mimi was more than a simple girl, but rather seemed more worldly and in greater control of her life, despite having really few choices.
Undoubtedly, the singing and acting of great singers is still the most important part of opera, but productions like this make me cringe and really spoil it for me. The singing and acting are worth paying for, (these performers are great), but I would love the directors and producers and set designers to be sacked and never be involved in opera again. I see this production as perverse and offensive. This old man, *me*, now 72 years old, does not appreciate such changes, which I consider not just unjustified but plain wrong.
@@operafan0anegnd I dunno, I have to disagree. This is an opera where the problems involved are still VERY applicable to modern day. Money troubles, love coming and going... that is timeless. To have a more modern setting doesn't change anything about the story.
I know. Almost? What would it take to make you actually cry? I do every time I see this opera. It doesn't matter the setting. It was Puccini's genius that gave us the structure that led to Mimi's tragic demise. And our tearful response.
+Lucio Coceani Often, operas don't change the libretto when the visuals conflict with it. There's a famous production of Mefistofele from San Francisco, wherein the Devil is dressed in a red velvet dressing gown. When he first appears, Faust exclaims, "Ah, a cavalier!" I've often felt like saying, "No, it's a guy in a bathrobe.", but you just go with the flow and accept the discrepancy...and sit back and enjoy the beauty of the singing.
It's that operas have been written over several hundred years. La boheme's premiere was in 1896. An opera's libretto reflects the time in which an opera was written. Poor people living in Paris in that time period would be unlikely to have electricity. (I'm not sure when the cigarette lighter was invented, but they would have been unlikely to have those either.) For some time now, opera companies have been producing versions of older operas set in a variety of time periods. One of the most famous is Jonathan Miller's version of Verdi's Rigoletto, set in the 1950's in New York's Little Italy, complete with gangsters and mob bosses. Many times when anachronisms creep into the libretto when an opera's setting is updated, the anachronisms are left in...like the cigarette lighter in this version of La boheme being used where the libretto says "candle". At other times, the libretto and/or character names are updated, as in a version of Rigoletto set in modern day Los Angeles, where the Duke of Mantua's name is changed to Duke Mantua.
Wonderful performances, but I am so tired of modern directors thinking they know better than the composers when it comes to interpretation. These sets are insulting. I gave up on the LA Opera when they stages Beethoven's magnificent "Fidelio" as taking place in a Russian concentration camp. Such nonsense.
Während es ein Genuss ist, die Qualität der Sänger zu geniessen, das Bühnenbild dieser Aufführung ist vollkommen deplaziert und entspricht teils nicht den Texten.
Great acting (Beczala is so moving) and good singing and conduction (i love that second softer and terrible "mimi!"). Sets and costumes are so weird; and this is a shame, because characters and stage direction are very good and intelligents.
Mimì parece adormecerse; Musetta reza para que Mimì se restablezca, pero pronto se dan cuenta todos, excepto Rodolfo, que debe de ser un poco tonto. Que acaba de expirar.
Ma perché queste regie che non c’azzecano . Ma perché non si rispetta il libretto, questa è una rappresentazione con la musica di Puccini. Si potrebbe intitolare Mimì e Rodolfo
Music and singing are great! Sets, on the other hand, are ridiculous. It seems producers are doing their level best to destroy opera. Only by hiring great artists, is there any redeeming feature.
CONCUERDO CONTIGO, LAS OPERAS DEBIERAN RESPONDER A UN CONTEXTO HISTÓRICO SOBRE TODO ESTA OPERA MUY REALISTA DE LO QUE OCURRIA EN UN PARIS DEL SIGLO 19.
I agree completely. The producers are arrogant and think they know how to stage Puccini (or Verdi or Mozart or Wagner) better than Puccini himself. The story doesn't even make sense today, the motivation of characters, the poverty of artists, the illness of Mimi, Musetta.
Me gustó mucho el 2do Mimi lo cual lo hace distinto al resto, a mi me gusto mucho la parte actuada y cantada, impecable!.... La puesta de eacena mucho no.. Esta bueno ofrecer algo distinto pero se les fue la mano... Digo no es el París en el cual Puccini compone esta ópera
I always cry at this. Such moving music, wonderful voices. But oh - I could do without the squalour. If you think this is bad, don't watch the English National Opera's "Drive and Live". On the other hand this one: th-cam.com/video/360M9RXb_Xs/w-d-xo.html is fantastic (pity there's only Musetta's waltz posted, though)
another pointless production - so 'rent' gets inspiration from 'la boheme' and now someone decides to make the latter look like the former. abandoned mattress, plastic sheet, litter - just what i want to see in an opera production. oh - and the plastic hat, and she sings of the coffietta - further disrespect. do the libretto and indications of a composer have no weight in the decision making of the new vulgarians who continue to lower taste and standards? oh well, as a friend once said to me: 'there will always be a small market for gold, and a big market for dross.'
Librettists and composers knew what they were creating! The job of a director is to faithfully portray their intentions accurately in the historical cultural context they were originally intended to be in, in as realistic a portrayal as possible. No text defines a unique interpretation, so there is enough room for creative input from directors. Modern technology could be used to increase the beauty and realism. Regrettably, too many directors think they can make a name for themselves by changing the opera into something else contrary to the spirit of the work. If they think they could do better they should write their own operas. They excuse their perversions by claiming to better communicate to modern audiences. This is nonsense. Even young children in every society readily accept and understand stories from different historical and cultural contexts. A very important component of a good story is perceived internal consistency. Changing contexts creates contradictions to the story written by the librettist, which causes uncomfortable clashes in the minds, moods and spirits of the audience. This makes these perverted presentations implant the feeling that opera is really not worthwhile. In the long term such changes kill the beautiful coherent original story.
operafan0anegnd Or, you know, they're just... having some fun with it? I mean, God forbid someone ever do something that excites them. Not saying I like this interpretation that much, but damn - all these rules are such a drag.
Bologna. The opera wasn't changed at all, just its presentation. I enjoy "traditional" stagings of La Boheme, but sometimes they are just the same creaky old portrayals. It's nice to see imaginative productions too. Rodolfo and his friends as hipsters, and Mimi as a Goth, fit right into Puccini's story.
Very well stated, in my view. I saw Carmen, who was a poor sexy woman, working in a cigaret factory, dressed in a modern business suit with high heel pumps!! It didn't work for me, although the music, singing, and acting were great!
So they've set this production in the modern era? Didn't they already do that and call it "Rent"? (Not that it takes anything away from the talent I see here, though.)
Creo que el contexto es muy moderno y distinto lo cual lo hace diferente. Puede que sea una estrategia de traer público o que la gente vea algo distinto a lo de siempre. No obstante, no hay nada mejor como el original. Pero a mi me gusta mucho da un poco de creatividad y algo distinto.
+Margo Polo ?? eh?? that's not the point. maybe we just don't surf on the same wave and you did not catch my question. Not important - it's enough we like the same music :)
Se vedesti la produzione di Pariggi 17 , la boheme di quello stronzzo di Claus Guth , nello spazio col li austronauti, quella di salzburg è al meno credibile.
These modernistic sets looking like homeless encampment are ridiculous, I see it in real life becoming more prominent and when I watch an opera I want to be in a different world. I love Anna but her talent is wasted in such production.
“You will never be happy if you continue to search for what happiness consists of. You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life.”
- Camus
"Life is not here"
Me.
@@paulorenatodemaria6106de éso estoy segura.
this makes me cry each time, especially sung by Netrebko.
This was my late father's favourite opera. I am nearly 80 years old and it makes me cry.
what a wonderful opera my wife Musetta ( named from the opera ) introduced me a uneducated lad 53 years together
and it’s great to be able to see this , i have with her seen many at covent garden, i hope to be with her again & together
we will enjoy again my love .
G. Puccini - !La Boheme - Act 4 Final - Netrbko . Beczala - Machaidze 2012 ANNA NETREBKO BEST MIMI EVER
Y disagree, did you see the renditions of Cotrubas, Freni, Scotto or Gheorghiu ??
Netrebko is not the best Mimi at all...
+Lilli Witt ...actually I believe she's one of the worst...
I disagree also. It is completely out of pitch. Both, Netrebko and Beczala are always out of pitch.
La más grande. Mil gracias
Magnifici! ❤️
...and my tears are running😢
The singing in this was just awesome! Bravo to all, well done!
I usually hate when people change the setting to a more contemporary time in operas. But Netrebko and Becala (sp) actually8 seem to be living this opera. This has to be the absolutely most poignant Mimi ever. I cried throughout the opera. Netrebko was the absolute best Mimi.
She was in the sense that her Mimi was more than a simple girl, but rather seemed more worldly and in greater control of her life, despite having really few choices.
Undoubtedly, the singing and acting of great singers is still the most important part of opera, but productions like this make me cringe and really spoil it for me.
The singing and acting are worth paying for, (these performers are great), but I would love the directors and producers and set designers to be sacked and never be involved in opera again.
I see this production as perverse and offensive. This old man, *me*, now 72 years old, does not appreciate such changes, which I consider not just unjustified but plain wrong.
@@operafan0anegnd I dunno, I have to disagree. This is an opera where the problems involved are still VERY applicable to modern day. Money troubles, love coming and going... that is timeless. To have a more modern setting doesn't change anything about the story.
I was in la boheme with a choir, 4th act almost made me cry
almost? whats wrong with you?
I know. Almost? What would it take to make you actually cry? I do every time I see this opera. It doesn't matter the setting. It was Puccini's genius that gave us the structure that led to Mimi's tragic demise. And our tearful response.
SUCH AN AMAZING STAGING!! AND WONDERFUL SINGERS!!!
Ustica come al solito bellissima .a scenografia da schifo , riportata ai tempi di oggi , ma si può morire di tisi nel 2000
so good. this had me and my 7 year old daughter in tears
great Puccini...and Anna.
une bien jolie MIMI ! notre belle ANNA merveilleuse
Wow... This modern update makes it even sadder than Rent (which is still good) xD
Wunderbare Musette, herrlicher Rodolfo, sympathischer Marcello, feiner Schaunard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow Machaidze is wonderfull
Bravaa❤🎉
BRAVISSIMI
Sublime
Wow Anna's spectacular!!
потрясающе!!!!
Geniale regia per un'opera geniale.
mama mia ! bella musica de la opera ! tuti fuori !
Diese Inszenierung ist eine SCHANde die Saenger grossartig. What a mix!!
Hier glänzte Netrebko noch, Nino großártig und Piotr Beczala un class of own !!
bravo
...and can anyone explain to me, why she'd ask Rodolfo to light her candle, when she had a cigarette lighter?
+Lucio Coceani Often, operas don't change the libretto when the visuals conflict with it. There's a famous production of Mefistofele from San Francisco, wherein the Devil is dressed in a red velvet dressing gown. When he first appears, Faust exclaims, "Ah, a cavalier!" I've often felt like saying, "No, it's a guy in a bathrobe.", but you just go with the flow and accept the discrepancy...and sit back and enjoy the beauty of the singing.
Perhaps they don't consider prudent taking you to the historical moment in which the plot unfolds
It's that operas have been written over several hundred years. La boheme's premiere was in 1896. An opera's libretto reflects the time in which an opera was written. Poor people living in Paris in that time period would be unlikely to have electricity. (I'm not sure when the cigarette lighter was invented, but they would have been unlikely to have those either.) For some time now, opera companies have been producing versions of older operas set in a variety of time periods. One of the most famous is Jonathan Miller's version of Verdi's Rigoletto, set in the 1950's in New York's Little Italy, complete with gangsters and mob bosses. Many times when anachronisms creep into the libretto when an opera's setting is updated, the anachronisms are left in...like the cigarette lighter in this version of La boheme being used where the libretto says "candle". At other times, the libretto and/or character names are updated, as in a version of Rigoletto set in modern day Los Angeles, where the Duke of Mantua's name is changed to Duke Mantua.
agree, just one note to this scene, they were poor, but not pigs and not lived in such muck
szamaria23 Who said they were pigs living in muck? I certainly didn't. You're manufacturing arguments here.
Tu sei una dea, prima ancora che un soprano
Não gosto de óperas clássicas encenadas por encenadores modernistas que retiram grande parte da beleza do espectáculo!
This is powerful stuff.
😭😭😭
not keen on the modern stage set,but superb singing voices.
Wonderful performances, but I am so tired of modern directors thinking they know better than the composers when it comes to interpretation. These sets are insulting. I gave up on the LA Opera when they stages Beethoven's magnificent "Fidelio" as taking place in a Russian concentration camp. Such nonsense.
We are performing this in my hometown Klagenfurt and normally there is a market scene, we have a party scene now🤔
You're so right!!!
SI SIGUEN POR ESE CAMINO, VAN A TERMINAR DESTRUYENDO A LA OPERA Y SUS ARTISTAS, MUESTREN LA OPERA TAL COMO FUERON IDEADAS, Y SU CONTEXTO HISTÓRICO.
completamente de acuerdo
Mein 👂👂
Srª Roxana Lagtronico, PUCCINI não é moderno nem antigo é eterno. Plinio Ramacciotti
Grande Puccini in ogni sua Opera grazie
Während es ein Genuss ist, die Qualität der Sänger zu geniessen, das Bühnenbild dieser Aufführung ist vollkommen deplaziert und entspricht teils nicht den Texten.
Aria final --La Boheme.
Is Piotr taken the place of Rolando, the other half of the dream couple ?
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When you have seen perfection and it made you cry you are truly blessed I hope on my death bed I can listen to this I will go a happy man ❤🙏🥲
Great acting (Beczala is so moving) and good singing and conduction (i love that second softer and terrible "mimi!").
Sets and costumes are so weird; and this is a shame, because characters and stage direction are very good and intelligents.
Singen auf der Müllhalde. So eine unglaubliche Sängerin, was für ein Gegensatz!
Mimì parece adormecerse; Musetta reza para que Mimì se restablezca, pero pronto se dan cuenta todos, excepto Rodolfo, que debe de ser un poco tonto. Que acaba de expirar.
Ma perché queste regie che non c’azzecano . Ma perché non si rispetta il libretto, questa è una rappresentazione con la musica di Puccini. Si potrebbe intitolare Mimì e Rodolfo
Music and singing are great!
Sets, on the other hand, are ridiculous.
It seems producers are doing their level best to destroy opera.
Only by hiring great artists, is there any redeeming feature.
CONCUERDO CONTIGO, LAS OPERAS DEBIERAN RESPONDER A UN CONTEXTO HISTÓRICO SOBRE TODO ESTA OPERA MUY REALISTA DE LO QUE OCURRIA EN UN PARIS DEL SIGLO 19.
I agree completely. The producers are arrogant and think they know how to stage Puccini (or Verdi or Mozart or Wagner) better than Puccini himself. The story doesn't even make sense today, the motivation of characters, the poverty of artists, the illness of Mimi, Musetta.
Low budget for supplies and equipment...been there....that's where imagination comes in handy.
excellent casting. superb voices and drama. lousy staging. sad
ilovecanine
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"Mimi" ....Nackenhaare sträuben sich ...viel Gefühl
MUY BUENAS LAS VOCES, PARTICULARMENTE NO ME CAEN BIEN LAS PUESTAS MODERNAS ... NO HAY CASO..
BELLA ARIA
Me gustó mucho el 2do Mimi lo cual lo hace distinto al resto, a mi me gusto mucho la parte actuada y cantada, impecable!.... La puesta de eacena mucho no.. Esta bueno ofrecer algo distinto pero se les fue la mano... Digo no es el París en el cual Puccini compone esta ópera
Ma Mimì quindi secondo il regista viveva in una discarica? Roba da matti
EXQUISITOS
Povero Puccini
Totally agree ! Out of pitch always both !
Infatti
Appunto! I cantanti sono bravi, è vero, ma il set? I costumi?!? Sono quelli che contribuiscono all'atmosfera!!!
I always cry at this. Such moving music, wonderful voices. But oh - I could do without the squalour. If you think this is bad, don't watch the English National Opera's "Drive and Live". On the other hand this one: th-cam.com/video/360M9RXb_Xs/w-d-xo.html is fantastic (pity there's only Musetta's waltz posted, though)
another pointless production - so 'rent' gets inspiration from 'la boheme' and now someone decides to make the latter look like the former. abandoned mattress, plastic sheet, litter - just what i want to see in an opera production. oh - and the plastic hat, and she sings of the coffietta - further disrespect. do the libretto and indications of a composer have no weight in the decision making of the new vulgarians who continue to lower taste and standards? oh well, as a friend once said to me: 'there will always be a small market for gold, and a big market for dross.'
So sad
Dios santo que agudos, no debería, arruina su voz, líricas suave es mejor
Y entonces comprendes que Rodolfo y sus amigos eran un grupo de "chavorucos"...
Librettists and composers knew what they were creating!
The job of a director is to faithfully portray their intentions accurately in the historical cultural context they were originally intended to be in, in as realistic a portrayal as possible. No text defines a unique interpretation, so there is enough room for creative input from directors. Modern technology could be used to increase the beauty and realism.
Regrettably, too many directors think they can make a name for themselves by changing the opera into something else contrary to the spirit of the work.
If they think they could do better they should write their own operas.
They excuse their perversions by claiming to better communicate to modern audiences.
This is nonsense. Even young children in every society readily accept and understand stories from different historical and cultural contexts. A very important component of a good story is perceived internal consistency. Changing contexts creates contradictions to the story written by the librettist, which causes uncomfortable clashes in the minds, moods and spirits of the audience. This makes these perverted presentations implant the feeling that opera is really not worthwhile. In the long term such changes kill the beautiful coherent original story.
operafan0anegnd Or, you know, they're just... having some fun with it? I mean, God forbid someone ever do something that excites them. Not saying I like this interpretation that much, but damn - all these rules are such a drag.
Bologna. The opera wasn't changed at all, just its presentation. I enjoy "traditional" stagings of La Boheme, but sometimes they are just the same creaky old portrayals. It's nice to see imaginative productions too. Rodolfo and his friends as hipsters, and Mimi as a Goth, fit right into Puccini's story.
Very well stated, in my view. I saw Carmen, who was a poor sexy woman, working in a cigaret factory, dressed in a modern business suit with high heel pumps!! It didn't work for me, although the music, singing, and acting were great!
So they've set this production in the modern era? Didn't they already do that and call it "Rent"?
(Not that it takes anything away from the talent I see here, though.)
Yes, but Rent wasn't opera, but good musical theatre.
Buona la direzione di Gatti. Imbarazzanti Netrebko e regia. Povero, povero, povero Puccini...
Sceneggiatura :"zero" !!!
Cette mise en scène est ridicule ... de nos jours on pourrait soigner Mimi et elle ne mourrait pas à la fin.
que mala version en todo sentido...
El montaje de la ópera es un fraude total.
Creo que el contexto es muy moderno y distinto lo cual lo hace diferente. Puede que sea una estrategia de traer público o que la gente vea algo distinto a lo de siempre. No obstante, no hay nada mejor como el original. Pero a mi me gusta mucho da un poco de creatividad y algo distinto.
Espressività delle due voci principali uguale a zero.
+orsomago Completamente d'accordo...
d'accordo
unfo, I have to agree, I couldn't wait the end .... and the end was a disappointment, strange :(
POVERO!!!
Le rAAAAne con la bocca lAAARgAAA
What is this? A crack house?
+Margo Polo why? do you have better idea how to show it?
great music!
+Eva Pavlíková I don't think you know what a crack house is.
+Margo Polo ?? eh?? that's not the point. maybe we just don't surf on the same wave and you did not catch my question. Not important - it's enough we like the same music :)
+Margo Polo This is undeniably beautifully sung, but I agree that the staging is a bit strange.
Un insulto a Puccini, che disonore per l'opera
Interpreti meravigliosi ma una Regia più scandalosa di questa mai vista, è vergognosa
PUCCINI NO VA CON LO MODERNO NO PEGA NI UN POCO..
Se vedesti la produzione di Pariggi 17 , la boheme di quello stronzzo di Claus Guth , nello spazio col li austronauti, quella di salzburg è al meno credibile.
Bueno, para pegar con lo moderno existe RENT. En todo caso, ya es bastante común ambientar las óperas en el estilo contemporáneo a la representación.
Porque tienes el cerebro congelado.
francamente interesante. ana ha perdido fisico y piotr que cuide un poco la voz porque va a menos y menos
Terrible Boheme…and always the big problem nobody is togheter with the orchestra
her wig is ridiculous
Povero Puccini , come massacrare un'opera , dai cantanti alla scenografia , una delle più brutte rappresentazioni.
Que horror!!!
🌹🌹🙏🙏🙏
Horrible
These modernistic sets looking like homeless encampment are ridiculous, I see it in real life becoming more prominent and when I watch an opera I want to be in a different world.
I love Anna but her talent is wasted in such production.
Cotrubas and Shicoff showed how it should be done; never bettered.
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