tuff_fish - Playing the 2nd nuts

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  • tuff_fish holds the 2nd nut flush but villain's line is extremely strong ...

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  • @kevinmac2298
    @kevinmac2298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Coming back to these videos after like a decade is so fun. Equally hilarious seeing the comment section pros spend time seriously analyzing tuff fish hands

    • @BobWhoosta1
      @BobWhoosta1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have to wait for my jaw hinge to tighten up again before I can start to think about analysis. It was hanging open too long after that fold.
      Edit: Ok, after a sufficient amount of waiting, it's this: call there.
      2nd Edit: Thanks for all the well wishing comments guys, Doc says the jaw should be fine. Recommends I don't watch any more of these videos.

  • @jajison
    @jajison 10 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Always gonna begrudgingly call here. You simply cannot fold.

    • @futurez12
      @futurez12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He's Tuff Fish, he can fold what he likes.

  • @DjaMelaque
    @DjaMelaque 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Why would he call the turn and fold river? LoL

  • @JPJWoods
    @JPJWoods 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How on earth could you fold that? Never I might as well go down with a flush

  • @the.seagull.35
    @the.seagull.35 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the only tuff fish video that actually hurt me to watch

  • @chesthoIe
    @chesthoIe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's rare to find someone who really gets you.

  • @Horrorbuff2
    @Horrorbuff2 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He literally played every street wrong. That takes talent.

  • @nomakym
    @nomakym 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    44 - 1 is not 50/50... this guy doesn't have a fuqqin clue. Also folding even a 50/50 with 3 - 1 pot odds... I couldn't...words...brain...pain....ow

  • @wrestlinglite
    @wrestlinglite 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That is seriously one of the most standard check-calls to the river I think I've ever seen. Hero plays the hand perfectly but he definitely doesn't even try to read villain.
    AQ is already on the board. Hero raised 20 pre which would be 5x the BB. Villain cold calls on button. If AQd is out on the board, what Kd would he have in that situation? K10 or KK. If he's halfway decent, he would only play K10 suited (even then that's marginal), which is pretty unlikely considering Heros perceived range preflop.
    It's an insta call in almost all scenarios.

    • @btthywrsuited-9830
      @btthywrsuited-9830 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +wrestlinglite Yeah your analysis is ok for today's poker. This was way back in the day though, most people were just clicking buttons, even at 2-4.

    • @anonymousraw766
      @anonymousraw766 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut up

  • @spyros07
    @spyros07 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy is a legend. WE WANT YOU BACK TUFF_FISH

  • @kelman031
    @kelman031 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The odds he had the K of D are more like 2% instead of over 50. Terrible, terrible fold...

  • @zion565
    @zion565 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    THATS THE WORST FOLD EVER

  • @Dadge42
    @Dadge42 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP Mr. Fish. You were too good for this world.

  • @mko09
    @mko09 16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "The chances of him having the King of Diamonds are better than 50/50 at least!!"

  • @Horrorbuff2
    @Horrorbuff2 14 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "But the chances of him having the King of Diamonds are better than 50-50 at least"

  • @bbs805
    @bbs805 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HAHAHA!!! this guy should announce poker on ESPN!

  • @lukedesade
    @lukedesade 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I totally agree with ya. Hell, yesterday I folded top pair on the flop (I had AK, flop came up JK2) to a weak bet. Then I was like, hey, what the hell? Why did I fold?!?!?!

  • @madwillyak47
    @madwillyak47 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love tuff_fish but he makes it hard on himself, you can't fold there. Especially since they will view him as VERY wide range and they will bet for value on very low flushes here. IMO Gotta love em tho!

  • @nikosyv
    @nikosyv 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    his experience does that he gets paranoid, and thinks he has the next best hand xD

  • @melogent007
    @melogent007 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha! This guy is a genius!

  • @xxoxoyyoyo5133
    @xxoxoyyoyo5133 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GOD I MISSED THE PARTPOKER GOLDEN AGE :(((((

  • @derenkov
    @derenkov 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    good fold, he could of had the king of diamonds more than 80% of the time ^^

  • @swingdocta
    @swingdocta 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when i saw him fold i got physically angry

  • @bassbole
    @bassbole 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    with all that money in the pot that is a must call... it did look like he had it... but calling there is a plus play you call and cry for the amount of money in that pot...every single time

  • @marcellothefellow
    @marcellothefellow 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    after calling the turn too lol

  • @bankrollbilly
    @bankrollbilly 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always fold secong.best hand always

  • @ivanlazurko7097
    @ivanlazurko7097 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tuff fish sometime is scary chicken.

  • @bonestorm2006
    @bonestorm2006 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    good old info raise ... why raise the turn to make him fold is bluffs`? since you pay the same amount if you check/call turn an river compared to your expert raise/fold turn.

  • @Gforcebond
    @Gforcebond 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    the guy was betting it like he had the king of diamonds

  • @Parizeau21
    @Parizeau21 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tough fish has to be right 26% of the time here to make the call profitable lolz

  • @fliptthescript
    @fliptthescript 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    tuff fish is up 100 grand this year so far. Hes actually a pretty solid player. We all make mistakes even ivey folded a flush at the main event.

  • @liefur
    @liefur 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's why you should lead out on the turn with 2nd nut flush. let this be a lesson to all you tuff_fish out there.

  • @kittenslikemilk
    @kittenslikemilk 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    should've either bet or c/r the turn. tuff makes me cry.

  • @JohnnyBrutalUSA
    @JohnnyBrutalUSA 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tuff fish needs to make a small check raise on the flop with a pair and a draw to get information about the strength of the opponents hand.

  • @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
    @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easy for you to say after seeing the hand tabletennisplayer.
    I think that we're all agreed that the problem lies in calling turn then folding the river. All the same, TF has a right to feel vulnerable.
    But let's look at this from the other side, 99 didn't exactly play this stellar either. He plays with 3rd pair on the board, been called after his bet on the turn then he goes ahead and bets on river anyway.
    Perhaps he had good reads on Tuff in which case nice play. But always risky

  • @bonestorm2006
    @bonestorm2006 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    raise/fold turn is money burning, nothing else. if you think villian has bluffs in his range, then you can easily ch/c turn, and river. if you raise the turn you basicly invest the same amount of money, but with the result that you win less against his bluffs and loose the same amount against his nut flush.

  • @dsmithers944
    @dsmithers944 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mad check on the river but damn.. How do not call that!!

  • @jadm7777777
    @jadm7777777 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg i c him lose every time ..but when he has a hand he folds..lol

  • @BrewhaGaming
    @BrewhaGaming 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    no I was thinking the same thing better to always play aggressive with draws such as that. Works for me anyways.

  • @bomber2909
    @bomber2909 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love , when he is laughing when hee see the bluff

  • @ZzonkedMCFC
    @ZzonkedMCFC 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha he definitely talked himself into the other guy having the K. I bet if he didn't start off thinking that he might have called the river.

  • @10000rambos
    @10000rambos 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    we all have to remember these vids were recorded years ago when nlhe wasnt as aggresseve as it is nowadays. he probably was making a correct fold in context with the era dynamics. however his math about the river fold is incorrect, if he was giving the hand 50/50 probibility.

  • @Jayps87
    @Jayps87 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was a good 'value bet' on the river to discuss what essentially was a bluff, screaming that he wanted a caller. Bad fold though.

  • @danielwilliams1177
    @danielwilliams1177 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    dummy folding, chances he had the kind d were so slim

  • @Anderson-rt7yk
    @Anderson-rt7yk 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #feelplayer

  • @skycanth1969
    @skycanth1969 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played during the golden age but I was just as clueless as everyone else.

  • @CrueMember
    @CrueMember 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    He had poket 9's and tuff fish thought he had the king of diamonds the only hand that beats his jack high flush

  • @travz21
    @travz21 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    You must be really good if you know when you're beat all the time. Otherwise, us lesser humans do need pot odds while deciding when to call river bets.

  • @liverlad
    @liverlad 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not sure how he could fold there. Even if he thinks the other guy has the king of diamonds, he still has to pay him off. He's getting great value to call with a big flush.

  • @nikosyv
    @nikosyv 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    though.. he said "he wouldnt bet unless he had the Kd" well.. yes, if he knew you didn't have it

  • @fliptthescript
    @fliptthescript 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    its actually agood fold on that kind of a board. This is a intelligent fold. The guy who bluffed that really made a bad move on a scary board. I think he can make a thin fold but way the guy bet it was lke he had the king of diamonds. 10 of diamonds maybe but unlikely. You guys cal lthat normally in a game on a 3 barrell on that board and you don't have the nuts your usually losing on the call on the river.

  • @Randy1337
    @Randy1337 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @fliptthescript
    lol its a terrible fold for that amount.Btw if he thinks he is behind he should fold the turn because his hand wont improve and if he is behind on the turn he is on the river

  • @weefeatures
    @weefeatures 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's true, but you cant always base it on your return. There's a very small range in which he would be doing this with, namingly with the K of diamonds. If you play someone who never bluffs, and plays it that way, regardless of your return, if you're beat, you're beat, you should fold in some circumstances. I agree he should call here though, spesh against an aggro player on the button.

  • @platinum952
    @platinum952 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow average VPIP for the table is 40.1, I wanna go back to 2005!!

  • @leos147
    @leos147 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    if the chances of him have the K of daimonds is 50/50 then you should always call

  • @tbotijas88
    @tbotijas88 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Life earnings of Tuff_Fish= $-15,500, "that outta be sufficient".

  • @Parizeau21
    @Parizeau21 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @leos147
    if the chances of him having the K of diamond is 66% then you should always call

  • @maqrux
    @maqrux 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this guy know that there is logic?

  • @skaxamax
    @skaxamax 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are these cash games? Man... he has money to burn

  • @rednick06
    @rednick06 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    terrible fold. When he said that "I know where the K of diamond is" iam like no, there is no chance he has a K diamond.

  • @FacialHat
    @FacialHat 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you looked at the size of watchmynuts bets they weren't exactly impressive meaning he was trying to bluff value bets which is what turned tuff fish off in this situation. Personally, I think if you were invested as much as tuff fish was in that pot a call wouldn't have been a bad option, just to check his bluff.

  • @exaltica
    @exaltica 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @codimis thats why he is the FISH lol its a miracle that this guy plays 10 20 wish my bankroll would allow that

  • @travz21
    @travz21 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Better than 50/50, at least"
    Ok, tuff_fish. But you only need to be good ~25% of the time to make the call. Don't strain yourself thinking too hard. Folding is terrible.

  • @BlanBlan19901990
    @BlanBlan19901990 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 to 1 on your money + 2nd nuts = .....not a fold

  • @5of1kind
    @5of1kind 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    why would u pay for the river ?

  • @brodyunderscorezagar
    @brodyunderscorezagar 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    unbelievable how soft the games were back in 2008, look at the bottom left on his HUD, the table is running 40/14 and this is a 2/4 game!!!!!!

  • @Horrorbuff2
    @Horrorbuff2 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy wshould announce the World Poker Tour. He would be better than Vince Van Patten, and his "He's got a wired pair", and Mike Sexton and his "HOLY MACKERAL" bullshit.
    Tuff for president.

  • @henkiis
    @henkiis 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instant classic

  • @FiveScatter
    @FiveScatter 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    legend

  • @SweetestVixen
    @SweetestVixen 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got suckered...i hate that.

  • @Parizeau21
    @Parizeau21 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even if the guy has the K of diamonds 66% of the time, Tuff fish makes a profit by calling the river bet.

  • @Mikecrema
    @Mikecrema 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    easy call

  • @suren19
    @suren19 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    perhaps a defensive bet on the river could have saved you

  • @brlegend
    @brlegend 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol should've been an easy call there i was sitting here thinking no way he has the k and of course he didn't.

  • @mikesvirtualgarage9917
    @mikesvirtualgarage9917 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well fuck me to tears

  • @iBetYouWill85
    @iBetYouWill85 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow.. he watched too much of that waterboat "education" videos on youtube

  • @ODAR69
    @ODAR69 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    folding 2nd nuts getting 3 to 1 LOL

  • @Putheticyou
    @Putheticyou 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you any better..?
    No..
    he said 50/50 because when you play on party poker.. you ll perfectly understand:)

  • @AJFreeway
    @AJFreeway 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    this guy is worth like 200,000, why would he fold a 75 dollar bet???

  • @AleWe
    @AleWe 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really brave to post this video.

  • @Marnobal
    @Marnobal 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @World65FTW Cause he folded his flush.

  • @publiks
    @publiks 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    All years winnings for tuff_fish: -$327,907

  • @BlanBlan19901990
    @BlanBlan19901990 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    okay kiddo, whatever you say, lmao
    didn't know arguments can be won by saying the same thing over and over again
    I will try it, thanks for the ups bro

  • @PROBLEMASAQUI
    @PROBLEMASAQUI 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    TBH i don't know what im saying. im only good at losing money, not winning.

  • @travz21
    @travz21 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The chances of him having the Kd are better than 50%."
    Uhhh, yeah. And you're getting 3 to 1 on a river call after you called the turn. I don't see how this is ever a fold with the way it played out. Plus villian is running 44/18. Wtf tuff_fish?

  • @PROBLEMASAQUI
    @PROBLEMASAQUI 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    am i the only idiot who woulda raised the flop ?

  • @chin4m4n38
    @chin4m4n38 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    what his nuts lol

  • @SkLLzDaTkLLs
    @SkLLzDaTkLLs 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, its been said just before me but i need to reiterate..
    CHANCES OF HIM HAVING thE KD = 50%+ ??? wtf?? try using some math.. that'll let you know in HU situations he is at what,

  • @fliptthescript
    @fliptthescript 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    naw if he had hte king of diamonds he owuld of bet way more on the river then 140.

  • @poyabideogeim
    @poyabideogeim 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    He folded 2nd nuts against a 44 VPIP player and only having to call 1:3

  • @thunderbirdguy
    @thunderbirdguy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    fk me to tears

  • @fefe2222
    @fefe2222 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    getting 1 to 6 actually

  • @babpnkimchi
    @babpnkimchi 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    god tuff fish ur playing those stakes and expect positive results? jesus christ play at micro stakes for another 5-10 years

  • @ilovebrandnewcarpets
    @ilovebrandnewcarpets 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Hurley5647 lol, i know i shouldnt, but it's painful to watch

  • @fefe2222
    @fefe2222 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    actually its 4 to 1, call 70 to win 280

  • @raimundk1977
    @raimundk1977 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just commented on another video first time, saying that he really has no idea of poker at all, and each and every single comment he does makes it more and more obvious.
    This is the second video i watch, and the FIRST thing he does it making the BIGGEST possible beginners mistake ever, checking the flop and thus showing total weakness, and after that, putting the betting player on nuts... unbelievable.... hard to find a worse player with that bankroll i guess....

  • @tektoniktek
    @tektoniktek 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    hows he getting 1 to 6 lol
    that doesnt even make sense

  • @OFFICIALILMAXKARALIS
    @OFFICIALILMAXKARALIS 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    mamma che scarso!cm si fa a foldare per 70 su quel pot col second nuts?

  • @BlanBlan19901990
    @BlanBlan19901990 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    haha
    keep telling yourself that

  • @Doppe1ganger
    @Doppe1ganger 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought you were setting him up by playing weak just so you could call off a bluff like that, why else call the flop and turn? Lol, you are you're own worst enemy.