The Iconoclast
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- Peter Thiel has made no secret of his feelings about economic and cultural issues. Hear him discuss his vision for the future, his bets on AI and digital currencies, his thoughts on the state of America - and why he’s staying out of the 2024 U.S. presidential election (for now).
Now in its 20th year, the Aspen Ideas Festival is the Aspen Institute’s signature summer public event. From June 23-June 29, 2024 more than 300 leaders and innovators gather in the Rocky Mountains to engage in deep and inquisitive discussion of the issues that shape our lives and challenge our times, spanning politics, business, science, the arts, education, and more. #AspenIdeas
For more information about the Aspen Ideas Festival, visit www.aspenideas.org.
I love listening to Peter Thiel because he's such a candid out of the box thinker that you learn a lot from him.
Peter thiel should be on trumps cabinet
Very rare to get a Peter Thiel interview these days, thank you for getting him on and thank you Andrew for doing a great job with the questions!
When I see an new TH-cam vid with Peter Thiel, I click "watch."
There's no "watch" button or icon though
I don’t know if his assistant will ever read the comments to him. But I would like to send my warmest greetings to Peter from Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 I have learned a great deal from his exceptional thoughts.
Peter is such a refreshing and reasonable voice in the American discourse. He is an exceptional role model for how to converse and contribute. 🔥
Peter is destroying our country for Israel
Great comment 100% agree❤
The guy who plays all sides, supports a wanna be dictator, and hordes massive wealth is your role model? Wtf lol
@@DavidRussellMyou reap what you sow, you dont do anything so you wouldnt understand
The internet has been the worst thing to happen to humanity, jobs, economic prospects, mental health, and locality. Bring back the small business owner who is autonomous like the local electrician who works for a small company, like the local coffee shop owner, who sells old books on the side, like the family pharmacy, like the local hospital, like the local hotel, like the local factory, like the local brewery, like the local hardware store, like the local convenience store, like the local smoke shop, like the local bar, like the local theme park, like the local ski resort, like the local electronics store, like the local clothing brand, like the local tailor................... The internet has destroyed locality and I wouldn't mind seeing it gone forever......
Would love to see Peter Thiel and Alex Karp debate and discuss the world and way forward.
I think they have similar views.
@@gregestep5407 they do and don't. According to Alex in multiple interviews back in college they would debate each other fiercely. Although friends they are on opposite ends of the political spectrum. What does unite them,.amongst other things I'm sure, is their united sense of freedom and privacy. Is the stated reason Peter tapped Alex for helping them start Palantir.
I FULLY AGREE WITH THE BITCOIN TALK
Thanks for this really brilliant discussion.
Credit to Andrew on this one. Nice Qs
Andrew needs to "shut up" and let the guest respond in length. Loves the sound of his own prattle!!
I wish he’d do more such conversations. Getting to see a softer side of his personality that doesn’t come through well in his lectures even though those are brilliant.
Lots of "all the other stuff" is because of social media and FB - and FOX. We're addicted. We're fed an algorithm of news and content creating the issues.Thiel would never be able to answer that truthfully. Not possible for him to do so.
No it's upstream of that, it's the victim mentality that causes these problems and you're making a perfect example. The media made the populace acquire learned helplessness on a country scale. A side effect (unintended or probably rather subconsciously intended) is that people become dependent
I think most humans have a weakness for such content. Combined with a victim mentality, you will never break free
The "news" has always been propaganda, sometimes with more, sometimes with less competition. And it isn't only the media that plays the propaganda game. It is also their sources, most of all the most powerful sources.
Peter's sense of humor is good in this one.
😂😂😂 Great interview btw.
this would be worth an hour if Sorkin wasn’t doing the interview
Love seeing a new Peter Thiel interview
Peter Theil is a gift to America
It's remarkable how open he is to changing his mind - like on Bitcoin or Trump - and to admitting he was wrong.
I have a lot that has never been built near San Francisco because of these insane things. I'm leaving California because of this corruption.
andrew let the man speak my goodness bro 😂
Talks over ideas exactly like what he surely must be: a creative mind always thinking.
Zirp ended, theil is back in tech fleece. That means he is working again. And he is working hard.
25:15 Merit, Excellence and Intelligence is beautiful
Cool ideas bro
Peter Thiel is the man. MAGA forever!
Bitcoin talk starts at 35:55 ...you are welcome 😊
oops bitcoin is not going to move up... Sad prediction. Worried why would Peter say this?
@@bloodbathybc bitcoin wont move up at the pace hes been used to. Guys like him have the ability to invest in companies the rest of us dont. For the rest of us, bitcoin will be an excellent investment
He is a genius. His ability to discuss things and not get flustered is impressive.
to the contrary. He cannot argue any point with good logic.
Andrew Ross Sorkin doesn't have his name in the show notes. It always bugs me when primary participants don't have their names in the show notes.
Hello, so what does IDEAS FESTIVAL do?
It's mostly BS. Occasionally someone of substance will do it to see if they can access the TED audience without the shame of going to TED.
timestamp with topics of discussion, please
awesome
Peter Thiel is amazing
Good interview. Btw, Andrew... what if I told you that there are folks out here more threatened by Biden's past PROVABLE authoritarianism... than by Trumps PROBABLE future authoritarianism.
His head would explode reading and hearing this question 😂😂😂
He a NY duew...so..go figure
Trump’s authoritarianism is only considered probable by media. Trumps ego is such that he wants to be known as a benevolent and loved leader, not one who ruled with an iron fist.
The internet has destroyed locality and I wouldn't mind seeing it gone forever......
22:30
"Do you have any Saudi Money in your fund"
"Virtually none"
(Does this mean none or?)
Maybe indirectly some exposure
What's the point of asking all the controversial questions abd asking the opinion?
Something that mainstream media cannot get rid of ?
Cant wait for the day Andrew leaves CNBC to start his own podcast. Hes grown out of his role at CNBC hes bigger than them.
His ego has grown. Yea, there aren’t nearly enough podcasts lol😂
@@mikerusso7095 lotta shit podcasts. Only handful of ones worth watching
I think he needs the cnbc platform, solo, although i like him i feel wont be the same, kinda like Don Lemon, hard for mainstream to go solo, true soloist can make it big podcasting, (not a don lemon fan btw but anal is the same
the heck is going on with Peter's speech here?! used to speak steadier before
Elon too. Neither one will really spend time on perfecting a speech if you are billionaire who works 19 hours a day. The reason peter thiel speaks broken english is because he thinks about the answer while hes talking, and hes a top 1% mathematician and philosopher, so add in the savaunt, add in him trying to decide what to say. Hes not hesitant because hes trying to figure out how to say his next point, hes trying to decide what his next point is, then he runs it through his philosophy knowledge bank to see if it makes sense, and then he finds a way to turn the concept into English.
Interviewer was obnoxious but Peter was super interesting and insightful as usual.
i thought that thiel is smth more. Crispy open ended questions from host, well done.
Look at what Peter Thiel does not what he says.
I mean this in a good way.
He is massively invested alongside the thesis of the book the sovereign individual. Yet he no longer speaks much about it.
Correct. My guess is he's waiting for some AI profits to materialize to move them back into bitcoin. That or he knows the price will continue to fall before the economics of the halving drive the price up, so he's accumulating now or soon. You don't suddenly lose interest in btc because there are ETFs and Larry Fink is in, he knows Fink just cares about profits and has no interest in even meddling with the ideology of the thing.
You are not on his level intellectually. Bitcoin obsessives are consistently either midwits or scamsters.
@@kreek22 Don't think any of the comments above were obsessive, more so pragmatic. Don't think anyone suggested they're smarter than him either, you're just being an ass for no reason.
If monopolies weren't involved in hiring, than the internet would be somewhat a good thing, but the moment the internet got involved in hiring and firing (recruiting) it created monopolies..... Indeed, Ziprecruiter..etc etc. So perhaps if we went back to a pre 2008 internet.
IN KARP I TRUST 🥳🥳✌️✌️✌️
10:39 ❤🎉
People in ny do hate finance
I have been trying to get funding for my startup! In the present business climate. Searching for mentor and venture capitalist.
This guys IQ is off the charts. Him, Musk, Sacks, what a group. Why wont All-In get him on the pod?
such a great interview from the anchor - many of them are tricky and controversial, but that's what it makes the interview stand out
I think AI will 10x capabilities, increasing the gap between various skills, leading to increasingly tight knit billion dollar startups
Meaningless claim. 10x what capabilities? And how far is a 10x tool from becoming an agent?
no it will make ppl completely codependent
He sounds very nervous talking about Bitcoin compared to other topics. Why?
Cthulhu will swallow bitcoin when it gets a taste for it.
Because he was wrong.
Probably because some of its original purpose has not been realized and the government has essentially mastered tracking and seizing it.
surprised by peter thiel's push back and lack of good words for trump,
i reckon things prob have happened in the back where he really does not like trump anymore.
well, there was the issue where trump did way less than he imagined, and was relatively more normal as a president than he would've liked.
Trump wasn't right wing enough for him.
@@SzTz100 Also not effective. Like he said- it's more of a spectacle than any real action. Trump is a showman not an executive
It was a clownshow that ended with lockdown
Thiel didn't expect the deep state to rise out of the deep and attack Trump on the surface, shameless and evil and stupid in its tactics.
Isn’t Tesla already designing its own AI chips?
The "ums" though 🤦🏼♂️
😊😊😊
Stagnation leads to polarization in USA 🇺🇸
Thiel still struck in the past. Most of his talk now days are what happened in the past and projecting them into the present. Would love to see him getting over the past, and doing more risk taking for the future he always talked about.
He’s a VC, he takes risk for a living :v it’s not best practice to talk about the young companies he is investing in, he can only talk in details about the big names.
😢 sorry about your driveway.
Give me Thiel Bux.
peter is a class act. if you have a problem with him, you're not smart enough
Very two sidsie and political from Mr.Um Uh
The stock market was great under Trump - but everyone was better off because prices didn’t go up 40%.
at the end of Trump there was a pandemic, so the whole world redistributed wealth (2020-2021) & then THE WHOLE WORLD INFLATED THEIR CURRENCIES, & you blame Biden for inflation?
47:36 47:39 47:45 47:59 48:01 48:04 oof. 48:13
Limitless USA Government contracts $$$$ trillions for NSA data bases and USA military forces databases contracts.
Hard to take "The Philosopher" Peter Thiel seriously when he uses his freewill to smuggle bones
I don’t think China is going to invade Taiwan. Why would they? They have time and time is on their side in this issue.
another case of unknowing ignorance. you do not know the balance of power--nor do you know how it is shifting.
@@kreek22 I have a pretty good idea of how things are shifting. Plus China knows the US wants to use Taiwan (bodies and terrain) to weaken China just like they are using the Ukraine (bodies and terrain) to try and destroy Russia. Why would they walk into that trap when they can just wait a little longer for imperial overstretch to set in?
China has repeatedly said they will attack Taiwan, they want to control the center of global semiconductor manufacturing. Time would not enable them to take Taiwan in any way.
Iconoclasts don’t do the aspen inst
Wrong.
I think his brain is a storm…..like Elons👍
everyone who uses woke needs to give their definition, if not it comes off as glib.
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good lord, social media has been the absolute worst thing for society. what world to you live in.. sad
Peter thiel for CA governor (please)
Anyone with that stutter is not becoming a politician
@@golfinguru11I think that because he thinks much faster than his mouth can manage.😂
@@golfinguru11very funny Biden reference there.
@@rolandnelson6722 Biden’s stutter gets shoved into lockers by Thiel’s stutter.
Peter is a better person than Andrew. Which is interesting in a way 🤨
He clearly sold the majority of his Bitcoin near the bottom and is now coping hard
That is my suspicion too because it is far too common the case.
😂
No, there is simply the question of what pent up demand may be left to support a price increase. If you held btc in 2013 you were early to the party, if you hold btc now you’re late to the party.
The interviewer is weak. Hopefully they do better next time.
Crypto NFT soon
Sorkin is such a toad.
He's better than most of his pals at Bloomberg though
Andrew sorkin is the worst 🤦♂️
Andrew sounds like he’s got a little touch of the cottonmouth… guess he’s in Aspen so it makes sense! 😂
He getting old like me too.
The man is a stutter machine
thats okay, hes smarter than anyone else in the room. This is not uncommon for people who are in the top 1% in math skills
@@davidanalyst671 That very well may be true. It doesn’t make it any easier to listen to.
Peter Thiel is great as always. but am i the only one annoyed by the anchor? He's so unaware of his shallowness yet so confident with meaningless interruptions. Comercial breaks would be better than wathcing him screaming for attention there like a collapsing pinocchio.
Sorkin is a sordid biased journalist.
Peter Thiel for President
How does someone like Thiel get such a bad dye job?
Where the hell are his eyebrows?
Wtf is Peter always sweating so much
Because his energy is always rockin and intense.
Andrew got to improve dressing, what a clownish look he have.
That’s your takeaway from all this? What clothes they’re wearing? Don’t you think you might be missing something
Humanity can already not communicate with each other so the interaction with machines is just for the people that enjoyed pornography and became emotionally attached to their machines through it.
With the limitless pentagon money and limitless nsa data I would be much better founder than this bunch at least the monopolies will break and not depend on the big daddy and mommy bank all the time.
Limitless NSA contracts and also USA 🇺🇸 military special operations contracts into the $$$$$$ Trillions for Mr.Thiel?
Why isn't Peter Thiel running for President? 😂
He was born in Germany
It's so hard to listen to this guy for more than 5 minutes. So exhausting. He can't get two fluent sentences out. Unbelievable.
Can you read?
hair and everything else is fake
is he wearing a hair piece?
This guy always blows is own bubbles and then proceeds to hope right inside, oof.
why is he sweating so much? his support for israel and palantir?
Are you ok ?
Lol
When did you guys forget how to win? Your Book of Books is all about winning. Yet you no longer win. Maybe the book is no longer true?
@kreek22 🤪 tf you smoking bruh
Amphetamine or white stuff?
Some of the most hateful bullies in the world embed themselves in the LGBT movements.
The Aspen "Ideas" Institute. What a joke.
Peter Thiel was a great disappointment. He answered all questions with extreme nervousness, making his answers seem highly insincere.
His support of a criminal for the presidency of our country points to a lack of values and patriotism.
Hit stuttering is so distracting
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Not gonna happen, sorry, not sorry.
Free Palestine from Hamas!
Free Palestine from Hamas!
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Free Israel from Palestine