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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ม.ค. 2020
- 3.6L engine ticking noise in your Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, RAM or Promaster?
If your oil level is ok, there is a very good chance you need to look at your valvetrain. In this video we will identify where the tick is coming from and perform the repair, in this case the right cylinder head (bank 1) valvetrain on 2015 Promaster (same engine found in many FCA vehicles, like Wrangler, Grand Cherokee, Caravan etc.). Also this same fix applies to more then 50% of all the misfire codes for this engine.
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I wish everbody did their videos as well as you . I know I & alot more people appreciate them. Thanks!
Lot of wasted time, too much talking, took off too many parts..
This video is perfect!!!!!! I had a damaged rocker on the right bank intake side. It must have been bad for a long time as it destroyed the lobe on the camshaft. I managed to pick up a used complete cylinder head and changed over the rocker and camshaft ( only $125 for the complete unit ). Saved a ton of money , and really the job wasn't all that bad. I just jammed a piece of wood between the phasers and put a piece of spring steel under the two phasers to keep them from moving. Worked 100% and wanted to thank you for this video !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where’d you find a camshaft at for that cheap??
@@graybenyo6735 Found a complete used cylinder head at a local wrecking yard.
Big tnx, did this job on 2012 Caravan, right (rear) side. One rocker was bad, took me about 2.5h
Excellent detail! Thanks for this it's really useful and much better than the other videos I've been watching. I need to get into the left bank but I now feel a lot more confident pulling apart my ticking Wrangler. Great video!
Great video. Thanks. You use the vise grip plier like me. Yes, it makes it easier.
Thanks for the great info , doing my first pair on 3.6.
Amazing video. Thank you for making and sharing this
Tech Tip: if you leave the cam gear lock tool in place you can pop off just one cam gear and do one cam at a time without worrying about the tensioner or even having to mark the chains. Also when I do the back cams in a Promaster I remove the motor mount at the front of the engine there so the engine can be dropped down giving you way more room to deal with the rear valve cover and more room to loosen and tighten the oil control valves. Ohh and one more thing, you don’t have to remove the actuators on the valve covers to get the valve covers off. I’ve done a ton of these and never had an issue.
So... what is exactly the problem here? Defective camshaft? What exactly are we replacing and why...? Thanks...
You right
Ural Rider Most of the time the problem is in the roller follower (rocker arm) the bearing develops too much play or freeze up and starts chewing up the camshaft lobe. I also had some misfires due to collapsed hydraulic lifters.
@@amilvilleda where u from I need my van fixed
@@damondrake4933 I am in Maryland
Big thanks for you wonderful video
Great video, thanks
Awesome video thank you
Great Information thanks for the video
Good job
NICE JOB
Even with of auto tech degree 20yrs old ....this guy feels why . I know best take it to pro. I not in the field
Always look at each rocker make sure the roller is above the rocker top if not they can b bad even if it dint wear the cam yet and it will tick yet check all cams and rockers do it right the 1st time
Just saw this, one thing you should always do is cover those intake ports. You don't want to chance something dropping down there.
gracias amigo great
Big project
I replaced a bad rocker arm and camshaft because of ticking. I put all back together and it now makes a chirping noise from the same place the ticking noise was coming from. Any ideas what that could be?
Anyone know if they ever fixed this issue with the newer model 3.6l penta's?
This should be a recall. We got two promasters and have had this issue with.
First thing is, as soon as anyone gets a new one. Put good oil in it and use fuel Stabalizer and Octaine booster..
How much in total did you spend on fixing the car ?
I took the top intake manifold off to replace my coil packs
There is a back bracket that attaches to the block with a 13mm Bolt
After I was done replacing my coil packs I put back the intake manifold for the life of me I could not get both of those back pins Onto the bracket what am I doing wrong
When your brand new gladiator has that tick... great but at least it's not lethal if I get it looked at
How much does something like this cost?
I'm having the same problem on my 14 JGC 3.6 liter.
Can't you use a chrysler sst to remove the roller followers and lifters without removing the camshaft?
Hello from California! I have same problem on my ram 2015 3.6 my cuestión is how much is does cost for repair it? Thanks for your answer
What if your rocker arms are no touching the cam lobes?
What would a mechanic charge for this repair typically?
So the chain will not move...I need to replace the hydraulic lifters on the driver side..can you help
How many timing chain does the Dodge Durango has?
Can something bad happen to the engine if I don't fix that?
Great video! If you ever get a chance, show setting up the left bank!
Che Kelley Thanks, I’m planning on that as soon as I get some break from the damn diesels! :-)
TDR Auto I hear you! I’ve got a fleet of ambulances with 250000 + on the clock to maintain 😂
Che Kelley Left bank is up! :-)
TDR Auto awesome!!!
what is the torque of the screws
How much does this repair cost?
Can someone please tell me how mny lifter a wrangler has
Are the camshafts still usable even if the groove is cut in? The contact surface is still in good shape.
DUDE> always Cover the intake holes... your crazy
When putting the old camshaft back or new one do I just mark it to tell me where/which position to put it back ? Or is there a neutral position for this side ?
Sergio Ibarra If I remember right the left bank is the one where the cams are under ‘pressure’ in TDC. So you only move them after the chain/sprockets are out to release tension. I do it clockwise less then quarter of a turn slowly. You put them back in TDC and again turn them clockwise, you’ll feel the neutral position. After torquing the caps put back to TDC. I highly recommend professional do this job as these are interference engines. One little mistake can get very expensive.
TDR Auto Thankyou very much for the fast reply and the help with this, I’m knee deep into it let’s wish for the best
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How much does it cost to have dealer replace all control arms on promaster 1500?
I replaced every lifter and rocker and still noise coming from my engine. could have swore it was a lifter or rocker and the noise is still come and go and sounds real loud when it comes....
Try replacing the Solenoid or EVAP control, Ive seen a video with people having same problem and they just replace that and it worked
доброго дня скиньте силку моменту затяжок болтів двигуна та головки пентастар 3.6
Your tightening sequence 21:57 is incorrect.
Hi
Could this be causing miss fire n multiple cylinders?
Doubtful but possible
I’ve heard using 0W-30 rather than the 5W-20 in these engines can help with longevity. Do you have an opinion on that?
Not sure honestly, the dealers are strictly following manufacture recommendations. If you find any study on this please send me the links, thanks.
The source I read this on was from Jasper Engines. I plan to call and inquire with them at some point after I take delivery of my 2022.
Thanks, excelent.
Hi, did you not need special tensioner tool for Chain?
Chunky Munk Not for the right side. Only the left side has locking ratchet style tensioner, the right side is just a spring loaded tensioner.
TDR Auto I see. Thanks. Wonder if this will work for a 2014 town and country. I need to replace exhaust cam on it.
@@chunkymunk6527 same engine
I have a Jeep that’s making the same tick noise, i want it fixed but everyone says they can’t find anything wrong with it. You clearly know what’s wrong with it. Where you located out of?
Russia
Jeep Pentastar engines make a sewing machine noise. I heard it's normal. I just bought a 2015 Wrangler with 57,000 miles and it ticks like a sewing machine. Runs fine.
How much does this maintenance cost to fix
If it's a warranty, FCA pays around 2- 3hrs for this job. Alldata time is like 5 hrs (customer pay). Most dealer's labor rate is anywhere from $120 to $160 per hour. Mopar camshaft $213 (best online price) and rocker & follower $12 . It's a good idea to replace all rockers and followers (12 in each cylinder head).
Hi. What was the mileage? Does it happening often?
Not sure how often it was happening honestly as I did not keep track. Mostly it was on 2013 - 2017, I rarely get these jobs anymore, probably as people run out of warranty and go to cheaper shops. I like working on those, pretty easy job. Warranty pay was pretty bad though.
my 3.6 has a sewing machine type sound but i thought this was the way it should sound??? how loud is the sound when the rocker is wore?
Mr. Mike I would compare it to a injector tick, only louder. And funny thing is when rocker and cam are worn it just ticks. And you get misfire when the lifter is collapsing.
Also, there is a purge valve thing on the very top of the engine that makes a pretty loud ticking noise. It's normal, but easy to confuse it with lifter tick.
@@frazercollins9559 That is probably what I hear. it sounds like 1 tick per rpm.
The real design flaw is the horrible PVC system they have. It actually cools the engine gases and injects it back into the engine instead of the exhaust to get burned up. This also makes it into a sealed system with no way to equalize engine pressure and vent the moisture. Because the engine can't vent, It fills the intake manifold with oily gunk. and corrupts the oil with water. You should change your oil more often. at least every 5,000 miles. By having oil misting out of the intake manifolds into the cylinders it causes carbon to build up on the intake, exhaust valves, and the piston tops which is a known issue with the 3.6.
There is a fix and it's adding two catch cans, one on each side of the motor. This is a well known problem with the 3.6 and many companies make catch cans for them. The catch cans get the moisture and gases out and clean up the intakes. Carbon coated valves will cause them to run hot and burn, even though they're forged valves. If there is any flaw with the engine, that is it. I highly recommend catch cans for anyone who owns the Pentastar. This is especially prevalent in cold temperatures and will fill up the catch cans with white gunk. That is what water does to oil and it would be back into the engine with even more water without the catch cans. I have an 18 Charger and at 9k miles, the intake manifolds and the air intake were soaked with oil. And the thing ran so well, I couldn't believe it. Not anymore.
Just got my 2015 T&C back from dealer, they replaced bad lifter and camshaft and phaser do to damage from lifter. But it's still making same ticking sound. What gives?
Maybe they missed something, I once had bad lifters/rockers in both cylinder heads! Is the ticking loud? Are you sure it's not just noise from the injectors working?
@@TDRAuto how can I tell the difference between injector sounds and bad rockers? I use a stethoscope and the noise isn't really any louder on any particular cylinder as I'd expect with a bad rocker (or two).
Crazy. So what’s causing the 3.6’s to eat the cams? Cheap parts? Poor manufacturing?
And here i read more than 1 place on internet that these were rated 1 of 10 best engines 🤔
@@jamieolson20 from what i have read , bad material. at a certain year they started putting something stronger in
I would like to know if this happens to 2015 Dodge Challenger SXT V6 Pentastar?
Yes it’s a common problem for all Pentastar engines no matter the model of vehicle
@@davidkellan8948 no its not. There's 10 million Pentastar engines out there, they're obviously not all bad
The torque for those t30 it's 89 pounds of torque not 10
10 NM or 89 in.lbs. to be exact
Penta'star'? Just another Chrysler rubbish engine.
Good job