You're correct that the board is the same number of spaces for all horses, but on a real race track, the racer on the outside has a longer distance to travel. #8 is the long shot *thematically.* Mechanically, you're correct: in the apple and gate decks, no horse brings horses 7 OR 8 along for the ride, which technically puts both of those horses on even footing. Those two horses pay the same odds and cost the same amount of money.... i guess it's just down to the strength of their powers at that point? But i don't have it in me to do a cost/benefit analysis on those abilities. :)
It's so weird! i didn't know that was an uncommon word until i started saying it in videos. It's very commonly used in programming, when you write for loops (which is all the time).
I’m a little confused on Bottom Dollar’s ability. It mentions the horses that are past the no betting line, which pays out 1:1 for every player. Couldn’t it be interpreted the additional money equal to your bets is a 100% increase, ie, the horses past the no bet line actually pay out 2:1 for the player who owns this horse?
i’ve never bet on a horse race myself, but yes, you’re absolutely betting on horses in a horse race in this horse race betting game. They’ve tried to make it more approachable by setting it in a bygone era, and omitting references to sad pony addicts selling the family station wagon in the parking lot for more gambling money.
I destroyed him today on my second go (had to abandon my first game when I realized I was playing it completely wrong). It was like $165 to $30. But he was rolling horrendously bad; kept placing bets on his two horses that were completely out of the race. Maybe he was just taking it easy on the rookie :P
Great video as usual! Short clear and precise 👌 I have a small quaestion regarding something you said at 9:05. For #5 horse "Bottom Dollar" are you sure that what you said is accurate? To me, the wording on the card says you gain $$$ equal to your bet on unfinished horses (not on the podium) that past the no bet line (horses on the last 4 spaces of the track during scoring). So in other words, instead of getting 1x your bet for those horses you get 2x you bet for those horses?
why would get 2X what you bet for those horses? You simply get the money you bet on any horses unable to cross the no bet line once the race is finished.
Thanks for your answer Captain Zane. English is not my first language so I misunderstood the wording on the card. The way you explain it makes more sens to me now 🙂
@@trojan403I have to agree with toon8657. It clearly states you’re gaining the additional money on horses that have passed the no-betting line. And since every player gets their money back for those horses, it is not a stretch to interpret it as “you get your money back as well, but you also get ADDITIONAL money that is equal to the amount you put on those horses” ie 2x The way that is mentioned in the video and by yourself may be correct, but the card is poorly worded if that’s the case. Also please forgive my all caps word above. Merely for emphasis, I’d have much rather used italics but don’t know how to on TH-cam.
I noticed in the video, you setup the horses on the right side of the finish line, in the dark brown section of track..In the rule book it says to put them to the left of the line in the light brown section. Which is correct?
I found this tutorial frustrating - sorry. The set up needs to be at the start, there's some gaps in explanation for me too, for example at 5:05 - the horseshoe, if you cross one off? Is that part of an action? How do you cross a horseshoe off?
Even though you don't have to pay for a free bet, do you still have to have the money. For instance, do you need to have $3 to make a free $3 bet (even though you don't pay it)
No, bet is completely free. However, no betting line is still in play, so you can’t place the free bet unless the horse you’re betting on has the helmet x’d out
i don't really rate games with a number score... the Scales of Funstice help me determine whether they're fun or not. i'd call this one fun. It's easy to teach and play. It supports up to 8 players, but it can drag with the more players you add, unless someone's on top of getting everyone to log their turns. It won't be enjoyable for people who don't like luck, because there's a good degree of it here, but it's about horse racing, so i think you can hardly complain. :) The illustration in particular gives the whole game an air of frivolity and nostalgia that only exists in, like, the carousel/horse race scene from Mary Poppins.
i'm not sure what you mean when you say you're not sure. Do you mean that you think i may have explained the rule incorrectly, or do you mean that you don't understand the rule as i explained it? When you buy a helmet for a particular horse, if you have Nitro Nellie, you can additionally move that horse (the same one whose helmet you just bought) ahead one space on the track. i'm not the official source for rules clarity, but this video _was_ commissioned and vetted by the game's publisher.
Some horse abilities seem to be irksomely ambiguous, but surely amendable by house rules. For instance, say horse 5 is rolled and I already have its helmet, but I use the 5 on the bingo card to get the helmet prize. In this case, I would buy the helmet for, say, horse 3, and then move horse 5 one space as indicated on the card. Is this ok? I don’t know for sure.
You did an AMAZING job explaining this game!
I read through the rules once but seeing you demonstrate it really made things concrete.
What a well-detailed and efficient tutorial. Thank you so much.
Thanks, rolling.reggie!
GREAT tutorial, as always. Thank you!
Thanks for another great tutorial video! This one looks fun! I’ll certainly keep an eye out for it at our FLGS
Thanks, Karl! It's a good 'un!
Excellence! In the quality of the game and also the video presentation! 👏🙌 Thank you!
Well done! This tutorial is both entertaining and informative :).
Thank you! This has helped so much and it’s the best video explanation I’ve come across for this game.
Hope you have a good time with it! (No uh… pun intended.)
Great video and play. This looks like it could become a classic family game.
Great how-to as usual, that ending was classic :D
LOL that seabiscuit bit 10/10
Great to see another of your excellent how-to-play vids!
Isn’t the number of spaces for each horse the same? It’s because of the secondary movements that 8 is the longshot, not because the board is longer…?
You're correct that the board is the same number of spaces for all horses, but on a real race track, the racer on the outside has a longer distance to travel. #8 is the long shot *thematically.*
Mechanically, you're correct: in the apple and gate decks, no horse brings horses 7 OR 8 along for the ride, which technically puts both of those horses on even footing. Those two horses pay the same odds and cost the same amount of money.... i guess it's just down to the strength of their powers at that point? But i don't have it in me to do a cost/benefit analysis on those abilities. :)
TIL the word decrement. Thanks Ryan!
It's so weird! i didn't know that was an uncommon word until i started saying it in videos. It's very commonly used in programming, when you write for loops (which is all the time).
It's a bit of a duh word for me now, like gruntled.
Perfect. Thank you!
Great job - very clear, thank you!
I’m a little confused on Bottom Dollar’s ability. It mentions the horses that are past the no betting line, which pays out 1:1 for every player. Couldn’t it be interpreted the additional money equal to your bets is a 100% increase, ie, the horses past the no bet line actually pay out 2:1 for the player who owns this horse?
Looking forward to my copy arriving.
I still have a copy of Win Place & Show. I like simple racing games w/o lengthy instructions.
Off to the races!
Tally ho!
Looks good. Also, wanted to ask....Do you plan an Ark Nova video?
Would love to, but the game hasn’t even reached Canada yet!
I really love the concept and how it can be a great family game. But I was wondering if it is the same as the Horse racing betting gambling?
i’ve never bet on a horse race myself, but yes, you’re absolutely betting on horses in a horse race in this horse race betting game. They’ve tried to make it more approachable by setting it in a bygone era, and omitting references to sad pony addicts selling the family station wagon in the parking lot for more gambling money.
This looks super cute!
Roland is surprising hard to beat. I've tried the game solo three times now, and got my butt handed to me each time.
i'm glad i'm not the only one! This was my stab at him:
th-cam.com/video/GRJ_wwEXUW0/w-d-xo.html
You could make house rules with "easy", "medium", & "hard" levels by having him start with different amounts of money.
I destroyed him today on my second go (had to abandon my first game when I realized I was playing it completely wrong). It was like $165 to $30. But he was rolling horrendously bad; kept placing bets on his two horses that were completely out of the race. Maybe he was just taking it easy on the rookie :P
Great video as usual! Short clear and precise 👌
I have a small quaestion regarding something you said at 9:05.
For #5 horse "Bottom Dollar" are you sure that what you said is accurate? To me, the wording on the card says you gain $$$ equal to your bet on unfinished horses (not on the podium) that past the no bet line (horses on the last 4 spaces of the track during scoring). So in other words, instead of getting 1x your bet for those horses you get 2x you bet for those horses?
why would get 2X what you bet for those horses? You simply get the money you bet on any horses unable to cross the no bet line once the race is finished.
Thanks for your answer Captain Zane. English is not my first language so I misunderstood the wording on the card. The way you explain it makes more sens to me now 🙂
@@toon8657 :)
@@trojan403I have to agree with toon8657. It clearly states you’re gaining the additional money on horses that have passed the no-betting line. And since every player gets their money back for those horses, it is not a stretch to interpret it as “you get your money back as well, but you also get ADDITIONAL money that is equal to the amount you put on those horses” ie 2x
The way that is mentioned in the video and by yourself may be correct, but the card is poorly worded if that’s the case.
Also please forgive my all caps word above. Merely for emphasis, I’d have much rather used italics but don’t know how to on TH-cam.
I noticed in the video, you setup the horses on the right side of the finish line, in the dark brown section of track..In the rule book it says to put them to the left of the line in the light brown section. Which is correct?
Definitely go with the rulebook!
I found this tutorial frustrating - sorry. The set up needs to be at the start, there's some gaps in explanation for me too, for example at 5:05 - the horseshoe, if you cross one off? Is that part of an action? How do you cross a horseshoe off?
What are you trying to play, Taps? (jk) 🎺
Great video!
First post. Despite requiring zero fingering, it is WAY harder than it seems.
@@NightsAroundaTable Of course it is, hehe. I wouldn't do any better; I think I'll stick to percussion. :)
Even though you don't have to pay for a free bet, do you still have to have the money. For instance, do you need to have $3 to make a free $3 bet (even though you don't pay it)
No, bet is completely free. However, no betting line is still in play, so you can’t place the free bet unless the horse you’re betting on has the helmet x’d out
What would you rate this game?
i don't really rate games with a number score... the Scales of Funstice help me determine whether they're fun or not. i'd call this one fun. It's easy to teach and play. It supports up to 8 players, but it can drag with the more players you add, unless someone's on top of getting everyone to log their turns. It won't be enjoyable for people who don't like luck, because there's a good degree of it here, but it's about horse racing, so i think you can hardly complain. :) The illustration in particular gives the whole game an air of frivolity and nostalgia that only exists in, like, the carousel/horse race scene from Mary Poppins.
I'm not sure about horse power No.8 Nitro Nellie, any official explanation?
i'm not sure what you mean when you say you're not sure. Do you mean that you think i may have explained the rule incorrectly, or do you mean that you don't understand the rule as i explained it?
When you buy a helmet for a particular horse, if you have Nitro Nellie, you can additionally move that horse (the same one whose helmet you just bought) ahead one space on the track.
i'm not the official source for rules clarity, but this video _was_ commissioned and vetted by the game's publisher.
Some horse abilities seem to be irksomely ambiguous, but surely amendable by house rules. For instance, say horse 5 is rolled and I already have its helmet, but I use the 5 on the bingo card to get the helmet prize. In this case, I would buy the helmet for, say, horse 3, and then move horse 5 one space as indicated on the card. Is this ok? I don’t know for sure.
Well detailed but no setup demo.
You might have missed the chapter titled “Setup” at 6:52. ;)
No doubt this could be a GREAT game but too complicated for me.
It’s not too bad! But what level of complexity are you comfortable with?