The Best RX 7900 XTX you can get - PowerColor Liquid Devil

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  • @infernus6278
    @infernus6278 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    PowerColor is my absolute favorite brand. Top notch build quality, good prices, good warranty.

  • @mateus-996
    @mateus-996 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What's most impressive to me is that you have a super clean black table and a white cat, I have cat fur everywhere on my desktop, even cleaning everyday

  • @Nite-Lite-Gamers
    @Nite-Lite-Gamers ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I went all out this time and bought a PowerColor 7900XTX LE and to be fair Im over the moon with it and its the quitest card I have ever had. I go into the Amd software and set it to balanced mode and the hot spot never goes over 89c with the fans at around 1700rpm. Solid card, I just wish it was cheaper, although it droped £100 since I bought it but I have no regrets.

    • @TheTick20001
      @TheTick20001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any coil whine?

    • @Nite-Lite-Gamers
      @Nite-Lite-Gamers ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheTick20001 Not a note of Choil Whine and to be honest, I was expecting it but I got lucky.

    • @TheTick20001
      @TheTick20001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Nite-Lite-Gamers Good to hear (or not as the case may be!)

  • @dawn-moon
    @dawn-moon ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I own the "normal" 7900 XTX Red Devil, and at stock bios in COD DMZ, I'm getting peak hot spot of 94 degrees Celcius, in a Lian Li Lancool3 with 6 140mm Corsair Performance Elite fans and 3 120mm fans, same type, installed below the Red Devil. You DO need a lot of case cooling for these power draws. I ended up undervolting 1% in Redeon software, that makes a hot spot difference of about 5 degrees. Coil wine is only audible on some game menus that are not frame capped and run at like 1000 fps. In properly FPS limited menus, you can't notice the coil wine... I'm happy I kept it AMD, from my former 6950XTX Red Devil to this one was just unplug and plug the same the 3 PCIE power cables, done :)
    ( weird thing was that W10 and the latest 6950 driver, did not like my 7900XTX rightaway, it had to be uninstalled, reboot, install , 2 or 3 reboots, then it was done )

    • @Brabant076
      @Brabant076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Undervolt it and get better performance with less heat.

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'normal' is the hassle free edition honestly, wc has low temp treshold (you have to keep things

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gpu only, cpu same temp

  • @AdamsWorlds
    @AdamsWorlds ปีที่แล้ว +189

    I can see watercooled cards being the future. With the size of coolers needed now surly its the cheaper option to slap a waterblock on them. Would like to see "pre built" water cooling also. So you buy a unit with rad, block, res, and they come with 4 pipes 2 for the cpu and 2 for the gpu. Just plug and play quick connect/disconnect. I know this already exists but i can see it becoming a standard with every PC.

    • @pascaldifolco4611
      @pascaldifolco4611 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's also the present for me, as my reservoir (behind front rad) already prevents me to put a GPU more than 280mm long (and I have a rather big Phanteks P600S case...) 😂

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I am not looking at spending extra 50% to get water cooled card

    • @SlavaBagmut
      @SlavaBagmut ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It exists for CPU only (AIO) we need the same solution for GPU. Right now it requires custom water cooling.

    • @lamikal2515
      @lamikal2515 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@GewelReal Depends on what base price your 50% came from. You can buy the cheapest "reference card" you can find, and slap a WB on it.

    • @TheInsaneupsdriver
      @TheInsaneupsdriver ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SlavaBagmut they exist already for top end cards, but i can totally see a standardization of quick connect watercooling in the near future. thankfully AMD won't be so quick to even need it.

  • @Born_Stellar
    @Born_Stellar ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I have a 6900x liquid devil, love it. want to get one of those triple 8-pin 180s with the readout, I like the clean look.

    • @rENEGADE666JEDI
      @rENEGADE666JEDI ปีที่แล้ว +6

      6900 xt x had one problem, locked memory. After overclocking, it did not have such gains as the 7900xtx. That's probably why the 6950xt appeared ;)

    • @0xNobody
      @0xNobody ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rENEGADE666JEDI I have an LC bios on mine, lets me clock memory to 2400.

  • @Alexandra-Rex
    @Alexandra-Rex ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like PowerColor's Devil logo. It's so simple and clean.

  • @MrPhyrce
    @MrPhyrce ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I received my 7900XTX Liquid Devil about 6 Months ago. I have ZERO coil whine, only time you hear the card is 1000+ FPS on blank screens while loading and even then its the quietest card I have ever had. I very much won the lottery with this card.

    • @bigai-ul4ic
      @bigai-ul4ic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, I was wondering if getting a liquid cooled card is safe long term now that it's been a 10 months since you got it.

    • @MrPhyrce
      @MrPhyrce 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bigai-ul4icthat entirely depends on what you mean by safe? I haven't had any issues with the card at all. It depends on what you yourself are comfortable with. I am fine ripping my PC apart to do whatever needs to be done. Water cooling is very much an enthusiast thing to do. I work on PCs for a living and have 0 issues diagnosing and replacing parts or draining and filling my loop. If you aren't comfortable building a pc and doing your own troubleshooting stick to air cooled or hybrid cards. The Red Devil performs nearly identically to the liquid devil for example, without the need for maintenance.

  • @cyberwomble7524
    @cyberwomble7524 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sheikh and Makita seemed impressed with it too; high praise indeed.

  • @gsuberland
    @gsuberland ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I wonder if you could improve the coil whine using the same trick that CRT manufacturers used in the 80s and 90s: potting them in wax, or adding glue to the sides. Back then the reason for the whine was the horizontal beam deflection transformer being driven with a sawtooth wave at 15.6kHz. Would be interesting to see you add some hot glue to the sides of the inductors on a card with loud coil whine and see if it reduces it significantly. You could also try something more permanent like epoxy or cyanoacylate, although you'll probably want to try those on a cheaper card than this one!

    • @sammiller6631
      @sammiller6631 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You could improve the coil whine using a better power supply or a neighborhood with cleaner power at the wall socket.

    • @TheHighborn
      @TheHighborn ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sammiller6631 i have a 1300w platinum PSU, and have a brutal coil whine. It's a seasonic model, and the coil whine is terribad. Electricy is clean where i live. it's the card. (I have a liquid devil)

    • @phyde1885
      @phyde1885 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheHighborn You should see the Guts of my Corsair AX1500i Power Supply, it's LOADED with DAM Epoxy on EVERY COIL,and I mean EVERY ONE!! They dumped a BOAT Load of that 💩! It's not Built by Seasonic,the usual OEM, but Flextronics,a HIGH END manufacturer. And it shows! NOT a SPEC out of place on this board! ANANDTECH was afraid to take that stuff apart,cause it was so THICK AND MASSIVE! They didn't want ANY WHINE out of THAT! But I LUV IT! Been on 2 Compys now,this one,my Ryzen RiG.

  • @HappyHubris
    @HappyHubris ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I have the air cooled Powercolor Red Devil and...you get similar improvement over a stock 7900XTX, albeit with higher temps/fans. Except mine was +$50 over reference price, and this is +$XXX over the reference cooler. And people have reported nice undervolts/overclocks on the reference cooler, too.
    Generally the GPUs that cost +$200 or more over reference just don't give you enough raw performance to justify that price, though some people might prefer to water cool or whatever.

    • @redhel
      @redhel ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You have to compare it price wise vs buying an air cooled card + a waterblock really. Most waterblocks for the XTX are around that $200 mark so what are you gonna do

    • @ironhelix45
      @ironhelix45 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The fact it comes with an ek water block almost makes this a no brainer for watercooled builds. the red devil is 1100+the ek red devil block is another 277. That makes that combo 1377. The liquid devil is 1400. $23 to keep your warranty and not have to instal the block yourself seems like a no brainer. (pricing was in the US, ymmv). If you dont have to pay for shipping on the liquid devil you instantly save money because shipping from ek to the us is around 20-40 bucks.

    • @aonirsplayground6224
      @aonirsplayground6224 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess at the top of the line performance/€ goes out the window and you want performance for *almost* any money. But heck even with that mindset the premium on this one is too much to justify, so much so it starts falling in line with products that are like made with gold for no other reason than "yes why not".

    • @4fiHysteria
      @4fiHysteria ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ironhelix45 EK blocks make no sense though, when you can get a cheaper bykski, higher quality similar price heatkiller, or spend more for better performance from something like Optimus.
      And in the US, disassembling your card cannot void the warranty anyways, just put the old cooler back on if you have to RMA it and you're fine. It's what I did when I rma'd my 3090 out of my loop.

    • @ironhelix45
      @ironhelix45 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @4fiHysteria byskie needs to have a block available to be able to use them. Right now they don't even have a 7000 category on their own website. They have one for preorder at 194. Ekwb at least has 7900 blocks available to buy and ship out now. Byskie's one block that I saw was for the sapphire nitro +. That card starts at 1200. Add the 200 for the byskie block and you are at 1400, same price as the liquid devil without the hassle of needing to install the block yourself. Also, I didn't mention that it came with the loop leak test kit. 30 bucks right there. Now I know not everyone will use that, but it is added for free. Don't get me wrong, I get that most of the time buying a pre-blocked card costs more than doing it yourself. In this case, purchasing in the US, the liquid devil makes a lot of sense because the cost of the card and block is comparable to buying the base card and base block itself. Most budget blocks that are out for the 7900xtx are for reference only. If you want an aib block your options are limited. I didn't see a heat killer block in my search, same with byskie until recently with their preorder of the sapphire nitro + block. Ekwb is a reliable brand that you can generally always trust the quality of their product. It isn't unreasonable to consider them as a gold standard of the industry. They are the only ones that I have seen with more than one aib block. Availible now, they have the Asus tuf and reference cards with the red devil cards launching at the end of March early, April. They are also the only brand that I've seen that actually has a tab for the 7000 series gpu. Not trying to shill for ekwb but when it's been 3 months since the launch of the card, and you plan on making a waterblock for the card maybe you should have a tab on your website to advertise that you are in fact going to sell blocks for that line.
      Edit: never heard of Optimus and just looked at their stuff, they don't even make amd card blocks, so why bring them up?

  • @Drock7749
    @Drock7749 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It looks awesome! For me though, with that difference in price and the fact it is a strictly water cooled card, there should be a higher power limit than it has or at least the ability to increase it higher than it does without having to mod the bios. Personally the "unleashed" bios should have a bigger difference than it does. Other than that it looks to be a great card!

  • @Juurus
    @Juurus ปีที่แล้ว +179

    That's a crazy performance improvement, I'd like to see further tuning.

    • @Insertnamehere3000
      @Insertnamehere3000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They always do that

    • @wantedyou2346
      @wantedyou2346 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Just use the card as it as and save the money for a future upgrade. This so called tuning to get a few fps here and there is a waste of time and is only good for those with no jobs or those on TH-cam making videos.

    • @jamesbrendan5170
      @jamesbrendan5170 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wantedyou2346 and you should shut up.
      Just... let people do what they want! Who cares if it's a waste of time, only people that don't have time would say that

    • @gozutheDJ
      @gozutheDJ ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@wantedyou2346 look at me I'm going to tell people what they should and shouldnt find worthwhile to them

    • @Dragoon710
      @Dragoon710 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wantedyou2346 that''s some fucking stupid advice. Why would you not squeeze free performance out of your card?

  • @greghilliard1767
    @greghilliard1767 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm so looking forward to using this card. Just have to finish my build!!

  • @orrygel
    @orrygel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your very fortunate to have such good supervisors on scene 🐈😻

  • @LOLHoneybadger
    @LOLHoneybadger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    25C delta between core & hotspot is crazy to me, especially on a blocked card. My old 3090 Kingpin with an eVGA HydroCopper block didn't have that big of a delta, most I ever saw was 10-15C.
    The delta isn't even that large on the 4090 I have now, and that's air cooled lol

  • @hquest
    @hquest ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It took me a second to understand the “MBA” terminology. Back in the day, we used “BBA” when cards were built by ATi, which some carried over after the company was acquired by another “A” company.

  • @AsthmaQueen
    @AsthmaQueen ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I grabbed a taichi 7900xtx, and planning on blocking it soon but its encouraging to see that this is pretty close to same performance, crazy tho that 2800mhz out of the box on memory

    • @ruokeren1919
      @ruokeren1919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. Just waiting for it to arrive but we’re very limited to water block manufacturers. I only know one but it wasn’t for the Taichi. May have to wait a couple of months.

  • @aryanak1989
    @aryanak1989 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video,
    I would've liked a performance comparison between that and a Sapphire nitro plus AIB version of 7900xtx in that chart as well. Thanx

  • @christianhinkel9251
    @christianhinkel9251 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now I want to build a system around this!

  • @arch1107
    @arch1107 ปีที่แล้ว

    i didnt knew you could put the word best and the word power color together in a phrase like this

  • @cadenmiller
    @cadenmiller ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow what timing! I legit just bought myself this

    • @JohnMuz1
      @JohnMuz1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Target audience / perfect, you are the ultimate proof.

    • @oxfordsparky
      @oxfordsparky ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Out of interest why choose this card? It costs the same as a 4090, is noticeably slower, uses the same power and has less features.
      Genuinely interested.

    • @Tirth-Patel
      @Tirth-Patel ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you enjoy it. This is a gaming moment 😎

    • @cadenmiller
      @cadenmiller ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oxfordsparky I’ve only gone with AMD and I just prefer them and I need the DP 2.1. I also wanted a pre installed gpu water block for convenience and I’m coming from a rx Vega 64 so this card is already 4x more fps im not complaining.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need dp2.1 for what exactly?

  • @OfficialJamesNewberry
    @OfficialJamesNewberry ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Impressive its always nice to see what the top end can do by one of the best. Much Appreciated.👌👌😁😁

  • @temporaltomato3021
    @temporaltomato3021 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just wanted to quickly say: I would love a product like the triple 8-pin power monitor you've been using in some of these videos. I've got a watt meter for the wall, but when doing things like flashing graphics card BIOS or shunt modding, having a clean power reading from just the component you care about would be awesome. Not to mention the 180-degree angle on the device for the cables; with some kind of cover, it might even make my build look better 😅

    • @69baker69able
      @69baker69able ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, me too!.

    • @sategllib2191
      @sategllib2191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't find one, did he make it?

    • @gsuberland
      @gsuberland ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sategllib2191 He says in the video that it's still a prototype.

  • @TreborSelt
    @TreborSelt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know why, but the simple touch of having the LED shine through the acrylic plate, via the eyes, made me giddy. 😂

  • @reloadingdontshoot1
    @reloadingdontshoot1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was considering this card when i had my loop. Love power colour and their Red Devil line

  • @50H3i1
    @50H3i1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video
    Really like to see more memory tuning and benchmarks with this card

  • @-zerocool-
    @-zerocool- ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome card, love the GPU power display too, have you thought of doing one for CPU power?

  • @zkilla4611
    @zkilla4611 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would say the XFX Merc 7900XTX is the best Air cooled card I have owned. Temps are always below 61c

    • @hoseinqadam
      @hoseinqadam ปีที่แล้ว

      FOR 1440P maybe, but when I go 4k it gets hot. 78 on the core and 92 on the hotspot.

    • @zkilla4611
      @zkilla4611 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hoseinqadam I will test. But my 3080Ti always ran at 78-80c at 1440p.

    • @Squashed8Ball
      @Squashed8Ball ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hoseinqadam 78C is still a very good temp for a GPU under heavy load.

    • @slim420-e8v
      @slim420-e8v ปีที่แล้ว

      DXR on tends to increase the temps by 30 degrees.

    • @sategllib2191
      @sategllib2191 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the card I've been looking at

  • @NateWheeler1
    @NateWheeler1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been waiting for someone to do this test and teardown. Thank goodness it was you. I have the air-cooled Red Devil 7900 XTX and similar performance and clocks. Are there any other benefits of this version other than thermals? I guess maybe smaller profile?

  • @bluephreakr
    @bluephreakr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Roman, had you considered for your WireView thing having the display press-fit into connectors similar to how the Raspberry Pi CU does attachment to other boards? It would permit use of the same display unit across multiple power boards so that less material could be required overall. If I am wrong about this, I am sure your audience will let me know.

  • @MadViking82
    @MadViking82 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I came from Red Devil 6900XT on which I put an Alphacool block. The upgrade path competition was between Liquid Devil 7900XTX and iChill Frostbite RTX4090. Went for the latter due to 2x the RT performance, better upscaling and Frame Generation. The price difference in Asia was only 250€ so it made sense.
    Frostbite has a 450W PL, however it can still be OC'd around 7% by upping the voltage to 1.1mv, and the clocks stay at 3.065ghz consistently at +130mhz core, memory did a solid +800mhz, passing the Port Royal stress test of 30 loops. Temps stay under 63C at worst case scenario, hotspot 75C, most of the time 45-55C core and 55-65C hotspot. No coil whine after the first two weeks of screaming like a pig.
    Just justifying my choice aloud on the internet! :D

  • @eliaskauppi7888
    @eliaskauppi7888 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought this card for my first custom liquid cooled PC. I agree that the coil whine on this card is pretty terrible, at least with my card it sounds louder than on the video. I'm glad that I can't hear it through my headphones, because otherwise the noise would have pivoted me towards returning the card. Temps and performance is still very good after having Strix 1080 Ti.

    • @kyleboi76
      @kyleboi76 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where u getting this card from ? I can not find it any where

    • @eliaskauppi7888
      @eliaskauppi7888 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyleboi76 From Jimms in Finland. Proshop too has stock. Dont know about US.

    • @kyleboi76
      @kyleboi76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eliaskauppi7888 Cheers am in the uk been trying to get my hands on a aqua or this but they is nothing they aint even listed

  • @the_shameless
    @the_shameless ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for awesome review sir! Can't wait to buy this card at half price in a year or two lol

  • @-opus
    @-opus ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If the trend continues for high power/high heat cards, it will be surprising if air cooled cards (at least at the higher tiers) will continue to be made. It does seem like we are due for a technology change though, or graphics cards will need their own cases and psu's.

    • @puciohenzap891
      @puciohenzap891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The EU wants to ban ICE cars and such but in reality they should create a hard cap on computers power draw to be honest. Like 400-500W maximum for a gaming prebuilt and such.
      Maybe then the devs will actually learn doing their job properly in optimizing the games, utilizing the available threads and stop with crappy ports.

    • @DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords
      @DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords ปีที่แล้ว

      @@puciohenzap891 its the wild west when it comes to all of this stuff , I feel devs gave up and hope for brute force on theyre games now

    • @joshtheking1772
      @joshtheking1772 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not built or designed to be compared to air cooled cards though.

    • @DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords
      @DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshtheking1772 that's where TH-camrs blur content vs usage, it confuses ppl because like you said product's like these are niche but makes for great content when comparing

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@puciohenzap891 if that is enforced, the only thing you will get is like with 85% guns in the US, where a manufacturer sells you a mostly complete kit to assemble the gun yourself. Just ship the PC and the GPU separately as different purchases.
      Also if you think gaming companies that do crappy ports do anything more than crappy ports you are sorely mistaken. The most they will do is not make the port at all so the game becomes console-only.
      To be fair I'm fine either way, most crappy port games are trash with microtransactions and season passes that I'm happy to leave to the plebs on consoles

  • @darjanator
    @darjanator ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting how the EK logo looks very much like the PowerColor logo on its side. Wonder if that played any role in the partnership and should definitely play a role in marketing!

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 ปีที่แล้ว

      might be

    • @maz-pg5en
      @maz-pg5en ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha I never realized the logo thing until you mentioned it. There should be a miniature devil logo next to the EK logo on the bottom right

  • @timwal1682
    @timwal1682 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the video What quick disconnects are you using?? Cheers

  • @3800S1
    @3800S1 ปีที่แล้ว

    These cards are like the hyper-car posters you'd have as a kid. Maybe when I grow up to 75 I might be able to afford one.

  • @MicD1
    @MicD1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got this card. It’s an absolute beast

  • @Horus9339
    @Horus9339 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was on the fence on buying a second hand nVidia or a brand new RX5700XT, a few years back now. I purchased the Powercolor Red Devil and have to say I was impressed even back then. It is still running perfectly in my Misses PC, around 100FPS with Rust at max settings. Powercolor do make nice cards.

  • @ramblinjay3816
    @ramblinjay3816 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my 5700 xt liquid devil. This is gonna be my next upgrade hopefully soon

  • @thorgen_ironside5279
    @thorgen_ironside5279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always Der8auer delivering quality review

  • @mattbelmonte8334
    @mattbelmonte8334 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Roman, will you be able to compare this to the AsRock Aqua 7900xtx?

  • @aquilarossa5191
    @aquilarossa5191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanted the standard Red Devil RX 7900 XTX. They are over $2000 NZD though (about 1200 euro). $2K knowing it will be superseded so quickly made me hesitate. I went cheap and got a Red Devil 6750XT new for a little more than half what they were on launch. It'll do for now.
    I also went cheap and recently upgraded my 3700x to a 5900X that was discounted, instead of going 7000 series. I'll wait for the next Zen gen to see if it is any good. I only play a little ESO at 4k, so do not need a supercomputer (it's plenty for my digital audio workstation stuff too). I sold the 3700X to my nephew for an extra large pizza delivered.
    I have to pull it apart, though. I put my M2 NVMe drive in the easy to get to slot. Using that slot makes my GPU run PCI-E 8x3, instead of 16x. I doubt it hurts, but it still bothers me.
    Now I have saved a bunch of money I can catch up on all the electric guitar stuff I need to buy, mod, and maintain etc, e.g., stainless frets on my Strat, or a new USB audio interface etc. There's always something huh?

  • @prostreetcamaro
    @prostreetcamaro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Installed this card yesterday. After tinkering last night I've discovered this liquid devil undervolts a lot more than the 7900xtx red devil it replaces (got tired of waiting for a water block). Which means it OC's higher. 100 shy of 28k in time spy so far and creeping up. Down to 1110mv. Previous card wasn't stable under 1130mv. Don't currently have 5950x fully maxed so I'm sure I'll go over 28k later when I get back to it.

    • @rENEGADE666JEDI
      @rENEGADE666JEDI ปีที่แล้ว

      When you go below 3300mhz@1050v, we'll talk. My nitro+ works on these settings in modern warfare 2. But for RT games I have to lower the voltage to around 1085v

    • @ShaneWymore
      @ShaneWymore ปีที่แล้ว

      I just installed the liquid devil 7900XTX and noticed that power color didn't install pads on the chokes. There's enough room between the block and the chokes to install them. Weird. I'll be adding pads and repasting tomorrow. I'm willing to bet that coil whine goes way down. Also, without touching settings I'm scoring 31200 in timespy. Boost clocks hit 2900MHz default on Unleashed BIOS. Pretty happy with this GPU, I'm waiting for a replacement from AsRock as I received a faulty GPU in the Aqua OC version. That card hits 3300MHz with the extreme vBIOS no OC but, it draws 530-580W when doing so. I'll play with the values on that one too when the replacement arrives

  • @vorvort1
    @vorvort1 ปีที่แล้ว

    temperatures under serious load? Derauer: no, I won’t show you!

  • @rikogarza1729
    @rikogarza1729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine arrives tomorrow, I was one of the first to leak this when it went on sale

  • @antoniocepaj7544
    @antoniocepaj7544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing that can also be improved is location for water entry/exit into the water block. Waterblock's slot size or length in most cases isn't issue will it fit insade smaller cases, but problem is width. My question is why not separate those entry/exit points by moving water entrance to top left corner, and exit to bottom right corner, that way even if GPU is vertical mounted or regular, water can have natural flow. + Width of card is reduced.

    • @antoniocepaj7544
      @antoniocepaj7544 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also if they added one more power connector, why wouldn't be possible to have them put at end of GPU, instead of traditional way on side ? That way it would even further reduce width of GPU.

  • @h.m.8589
    @h.m.8589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1060mV +15%PL GPU-2850 Mem-2800 was the end stable result with a reference with 2pci-e on water. Mine pulls on average 325w during games. I think the 7900xtx just works so well with water cooling.

  • @chveyk
    @chveyk ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes. I thought the "pictograms" from the EK are clear to everyone. But no, it turns out that the great derbauer is so "alternatively talented" that he did not understand them !!! The EK logo is an ARROW. showing "inside", and the "owl" logo is like an "out" arrow

  • @jkomodo
    @jkomodo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've thoroughly searched through most 7900xtx's and the strongest one I've witnessed was the sapphire nitro+ as it's over locking sets it often to the 4090 in benchmarks.

    • @TieuBachBach
      @TieuBachBach ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sapphire still leading for AMD card since ATI brand name till now. The quality are top and cooling at the same, board and finish very best.

    • @onomatopoeia162003
      @onomatopoeia162003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TieuBachBach true about the ATI brand.

  • @jeremybarber2837
    @jeremybarber2837 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quite a sweet looking card, especially since it is a true single slot even with the tall pice -> fittings distance.

  • @Arokhantos
    @Arokhantos ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad JayzTwoCents showed temps and delta on he's card confirming my temps are about normal, @derbauer do not be afraid to show exact temps including room temp water temp etc its still very useful, and i am well aware at 30c room temp temps go up least 9 to 10c on atleast the hotspot

  • @overman330
    @overman330 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome!! Guess I’m going with the nitro + (vs the pulse or reference) wasn’t sure if the extra money would equal any performance improvements. This shows it’s plausible and that’s all the encouragement I need 😂

    • @HappyHubris
      @HappyHubris ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Think about the extra performance per $. The AIB cards generally all undervolt/overclock well as is, so the gap between say a $1,050 card and a $1,200 card is likely very little (silicon lottery applying, of course). The "guaranteed" overclocks on all these AIBs are all much smaller than a simple undervolt on a reference card.

    • @cavedweller333
      @cavedweller333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HappyHubris yeah, not going go get that much performance improvement over another aib card, but there's something to say for aesthetics

  • @GiGaSzS
    @GiGaSzS ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a really well designed card, now the challenge is to design a power stage that would not have coilwhine!

  • @CuttingEdgeRetro
    @CuttingEdgeRetro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Roman, As an owner of the 6900 XT Liquid devil, my main issue wtih these version of EK blocks are the glued on metal decals covering all the block screws. If you ever need to disassemble the block to clean it. Its a 1 way trip to destroying the metal decals. Not even a heatgun can help as the tempreature you need to melt the glue also melts the acrylic. :( RIP design. But i will say atleast my new Alphacool red devil block fits my liquid devil card perfectly and it performs better than the EK block. ;)

  • @TimLongson
    @TimLongson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being able to buy a GPU which comes with a pre-installed water block is hugely attractive. As you say, people building their first custom water-loop especially, but most people will be nervous of breaking a hugely expensive graphics card (especially an RTX4090) by being terrified of making a mistake which invalidates the warranty whilst installing one themselves. Buying it pre-installed also saves on the e-waste, as there is no redundant fans & cooling blocks wasted, & so it's better for the environment & your wallet.
    I'm hoping the Asus Rog Strix will partner with EK again because I would love to buy one of their RTX4090 which is pre-installed with dual active (front & back) water blocks; no matter how much extra cooling the active backplate makes, esthetically it looks MUCH nicer when the GPU is installed in the regular way & so is worth the extra expenseof an active backplate, with RGB.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should be making GPU + AIO preinstalled, there are so many ways to destroy your hardware that isn't covered by warranty when doing a custom water cooling loop that getting a card with a preinstalled waterblock doesn't make it that much safer

  • @itsyaboia-dub1120
    @itsyaboia-dub1120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to see a custom waterblock on the ASRock phantom to compare this to.

  • @BobSmith-gh5wj
    @BobSmith-gh5wj ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video - whats the difference between the Powercolor red devil air cooled bios and the water cooled bios?

  • @botbeamer
    @botbeamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as long as the coil whine doesn't affect performance or durability I don't mind it, I think the card sounds great

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review.
    I'm not sure it is the best 7900 xtx out there, My own Nitro+ makes 98.43 fps if I use the OC setting (91.77 on std settings) in Adrenalin - on AIR!
    This was just a quick test - I assume manual OC would be better - and I assume it will become better when I get it on water some day in the future.

    • @krzysiekbs
      @krzysiekbs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My 7900xtx from ASrock Taichi do 97,01 fps with normal settings and 107,32 fps with OC :)

  • @kentcurrie7326
    @kentcurrie7326 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another amazing video. And, as an American, I always double-clutch when I see a comma used as a decimal. 😂 Some day, I might build a custom watercooled PC.

  • @joshtheking1772
    @joshtheking1772 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it a good card? Yes, thats evident. Now benchmarks are one thing and actual, everyday, use is another. What im looking at, according to the benchmarks, is Consistency. This card has it in spades. Im really impressed. I do think the price tag is a little high though. Its a consideration but I do think there is better value out there, at least at this moment. Power Color has come a real long way. Im just having a hard time justifying the cost, but, all GPU's are just too expensive at the moment. Ill wait.

    • @georgwarhead2801
      @georgwarhead2801 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, the liquid devil isnt realy a card made for everyone. its more like a card for the red devil fans, who wants to spend the money for a liquid devil...that beeing sayed, its a beauty!

  • @Serachja
    @Serachja ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm having similar results with an Asus Reference card and a Alphacool block. So far I'm quite happy with the card on water

  • @barn0wl
    @barn0wl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish they sold this as a block for the red devil, it looks so much nicer than the normal waterblock

    • @Squashed8Ball
      @Squashed8Ball ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m confused; this is a Red Devil but with a water block preinstalled and thus it’s sold as the Liquid Devil.

    • @RevansNightmare
      @RevansNightmare ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not the same look on the block. I understand what he’s saying. I’m just mad that ek hasn’t sent my red devil block it yet after delaying the pre order delayed twice.

  • @far0sino
    @far0sino ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always. Not that it matters but your clock speed comparison graph has wrong Y axis label.

  • @fracturedlife1393
    @fracturedlife1393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a nice looking block

  • @no-one_no1406
    @no-one_no1406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video!
    Next question though is... how can we modify the xtx cards to remove or increase the power limit? MPT doesn't work any more :/

    • @ZAGAN-OZ
      @ZAGAN-OZ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You have to mod the card. No more software hacks.

    • @no-one_no1406
      @no-one_no1406 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZAGAN-OZ Yes. But how? AMD I don't think uses a resistor to measure current draw, so can't just solder that?
      Can the power controller chip be reconfigured, like on the radeon 6 series?

  • @PAPO1990
    @PAPO1990 ปีที่แล้ว

    My biggest issue with the Liquid Devil cards (I have a 5700XT LD) is maintenance. I had to open mine up to clean it (never using coloured coolant again) and to get to most of the screws I had to destroy the nice metal covers on the front, now they are all bent and kinked, there's no way I'm going to get them flat and pretty again, and underneath them was lots of now ugly glue.

  • @JBrinx18
    @JBrinx18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I definitely would like that wire view for my 3 8-pin GPU. So the wattage over the PCIe slot is minimal typically, yes?

  • @Thoringer
    @Thoringer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It may be the glue/underfill is there to protect in case someone uses too much liquid metal replacing the standard paste. If it trips, it would more likely drip that direction?

  • @dragonix2310
    @dragonix2310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Roman. Thank you for the video. I disagree about leak tester being a nice addition. I don't believe it's free. It's always calculated within product's price. I don't have any data to prove it, but I think people buying that kind of products already have some kind of leak tester, or simply do not care. In majority of cases that's just a waste of our planet's resources.

  • @sergkot3462
    @sergkot3462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it worth that a reference pcb variant + ek waterbllock?

  • @BrazenBob
    @BrazenBob ปีที่แล้ว

    Thinking this will be my first water cooling card 😎

  • @Fathernimman
    @Fathernimman ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a card I want, and the next GPU will be powercolor liquid devil for sure!

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love to have the resources to test if having 32MB of additional L3 cache on die, along side the 96MB of L3/L4 on the MCM would significantly increase performance over the current RDNA3 design.
    There must have been a reason AMD put the 3D cache on top of their CPUs instead of the much cheaper, and cooler IO die, i feel like this is the reason RDNA3 acts so slow, because it has to go off-die to get the cache.

  • @siberx4
    @siberx4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The difference between the two BIOS profiles is the fan curves ;)

  • @Rmx2011
    @Rmx2011 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liquid devil cards have always been cool. Badumtss.

  • @3XZDgg
    @3XZDgg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've learned my lesson from the LD 6900 XT... wait for the ultimate edition 🙄

    • @inmypaants
      @inmypaants ปีที่แล้ว

      This has an unleashed BIOS, is this not the equiv of an ultimate edition?

    • @DontWantAHandle
      @DontWantAHandle ปีที่แล้ว

      No, the Ultimate edition was with a Navi 21XTXH (basically, better binned), but both have an OC and Unleashed setting, only with higher target for the Ultimate edition.

    • @mattbelmonte8334
      @mattbelmonte8334 ปีที่แล้ว

      Might not be an unleashed version. 6950xt did not have one

  • @nicholasgrogan856
    @nicholasgrogan856 ปีที่แล้ว

    This card looks beautiful

  • @adi6293
    @adi6293 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man, what do you think about the Nitro + with a water block on it? I think that would hit 3.0Ghz on the core

  • @phantomap1522
    @phantomap1522 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick note, in the video when you are showing graphs of frequencies, the Y-axis reads "Power Draw in W", it took me a few blinks to reset my brain and figure out that this doesn't mean I need a 3 kilowatt power supply :')

  • @Colehh
    @Colehh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hotspot deltas seem comically high for this gen. If you can, I'd love to see if Honeywell PTM7950 allows for a much lower GPU hotspot delta relative to the other reading. On my Sapphire Nitro+ I was able to get as low as a 12-15c delta where here it looks closed to 20-25c.

    • @HappyHubris
      @HappyHubris ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On stock settings my 7900XTX Red Devil had juncture temps of up to 98C. I had to up the maximum fan % to 75% from its stock 45% or whatever.

    • @Daisykesie
      @Daisykesie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On every I card owned the last couple years, I replaced the standard paste with liquid metal from TG. That meant a world of difference on the overall die temp, but a massive drop in hotspot temps. On idle my watercooled Powercolor RX 6900 XT Red Devil Ultimate hotspot is now 2 degrees above ambient, where my gpu die itself is ambient(water) temperature. Even in gaming the hotspot never reached above 54 degrees and in benchmarking it never got over 72 degrees.

  • @MrGaZZaDaG
    @MrGaZZaDaG ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as always 😊 any chance you could download and share the bios for us to try on other non reference cards please

  • @bismuth7730
    @bismuth7730 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant wait for a video on this card with a shunt mod C:

  • @mateuszkwietowicz2470
    @mateuszkwietowicz2470 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own the PowerColor Liquid Devil 6900XT - and the block itself seems the same, but mine - looks better - the LD logo pattern on black finish. The lighting on the 6900 is uneven - it's brighter at one end, while the other is darker - either mine has faulty LED strip, or the strip is just short. I don't know. Mine also doesn't have any thermal pads under the backplate which is a shame.
    The key difference from PowerColor and other brands is the card length - Liquid Devil is significantly shorter than other cards, which is very important in cases with limited card space.
    Performance is great. I myself am very happy with mine, it runs cool and quiet - but, one 360 rad is not enough to cool both the card and the cpu - I had to install another 360 rad to keep my temps down.

  • @bobbymoss6160
    @bobbymoss6160 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, that's a good looking GPU. Too bad strict water cooling scares me.

    • @Daisykesie
      @Daisykesie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the price for watercooling your PC nowadays is so much more affordable and better to install than lets say 10 years ago. everything and any information you want on building your own watercooling is on the net for the grabs. Easy first time custom loop? Go softline. Second or third waterloop? Lets try some hardline. And the costs of it, if you can be patient, aint that much more than buying an AIO and fans.

    • @technicalfool
      @technicalfool ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was once like that, and only a few years ago, the only reason you'd want to watercool would be for overclocking or controlling where the radiator is.
      These days though, the stupid temperatures of an air cooled card end up making the inside of the case get to scary temperatures. The air-cooled heatsinks are breeze-blocks that damage motherboards if not braced in place or mounted vertically. Things have flipped a bit, and if you want high end cards, watercooling and a big fat radiator are definitely the way to go. Use soft-line, quick-connects and pressure testers, and there needn't be a leak risk.

  • @B19902133
    @B19902133 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the Red Devil limited edition, kinda wishing I had waited for this release lol.

  • @AG-qd1je
    @AG-qd1je ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was hoping you'd undervolt overclock the card. I get similar maybe better performance with the red devil xtx

  • @Nelthalin
    @Nelthalin ปีที่แล้ว

    Where van you buy the 2x8p version of wire view? I love how it looks.
    I wonder what would have happened with this card if you lowered the target voltage like 50-100mv.since since you are still power limited it would be very interesting to see if you can hit 3000MHz+ with the low temps it might be possible. The clock curve will be steeper.
    Just like with RDNA2 you would want to stay below the power limit on RDNA3 to keep the clockspeed predictable and constant looking at what the cards I tested could run with the stock MBA cooler and power limits 3GHz should be possible with this card if you tweak it to the limit by also Undervolting it a little.

  • @VforVentouza
    @VforVentouza ปีที่แล้ว

    I had it for a few days and absolutely loved how it looked and how it ran. Sadly it was not compatible with my VR headset, which I guess is what it is, but the coil whine was just too much. I have a very silent PC on my desk and this was simply ruining it. I'm very sad about it cause I really loved its looks.

  • @Skop_p
    @Skop_p ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know the video is about the gpu. but im more interested in that 3x8pin wireview.

  • @johndoe7270
    @johndoe7270 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would be an awesome upgrade to my 5700 XT. If no one is going to make waterblocks for the MSI cards, I think this might be very tempting.

  • @gungyeon6208
    @gungyeon6208 ปีที่แล้ว

    This card gets hella hot for demanding games. I think water cool is the way.

  • @powersystem2567
    @powersystem2567 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I picked up my liquid devil Friday morning from new egg, soon as I seen them listed I bought it, bought it 9:30am and I received it 9:10am Saturday morning. been working on draining and tearing apart my loop, curranty have a Tuf 4080 with a phanteks block. I think this 7900XTX will out perform, Hopefully! this is only the second video I have seen on this card as well!

    • @Squashed8Ball
      @Squashed8Ball ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why would you swap from a 4080 to a 7900xtx? There is basically no performance difference.

    • @powersystem2567
      @powersystem2567 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Squashed8Ball to some maybe not but for me I think it’s more than enough

  • @agoogleuser7899
    @agoogleuser7899 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice water flow through the block.

  • @mattiacaldera
    @mattiacaldera ปีที่แล้ว

    If you do some undervolting with OC, you get even better results

  • @MADMarcus72
    @MADMarcus72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if this would fit in cases like the Hyte Y60? That is the case I am currently using and with the 7900 XT it gets close to the glass where there might not be room for the water fittings.

    • @davidhedgecock5857
      @davidhedgecock5857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It should fit fine and also you could fit the water cooling connectors to the back of the liquid devil card.

  • @dukejukem8843
    @dukejukem8843 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Unleashed BIOS clock was 3915 mhz and the OC was 3940 mhz. Apparently Unleashed means Silent/Power Saving in terms of clock speed.

  • @ClayWheeler
    @ClayWheeler ปีที่แล้ว

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