Thanks to everyone who posted about Lenovo's cheap 32GB RAM upgrade and Samsung's 16" (ports) and Elite 84 upgrade (1TB storage) bonuses. That makes them even better values!
I am disappointed with the different versions of 1 Chip. That will create more confusion when buying these laptops. Why did they do that? Couldn't they just stay with 2 chips? I hate Apple, but their naming scheme is better and straightforward. M3, M3 Pro, M3 Max.
DELL can go up to 64 GB Ram now. That is the selling point and why it beats all competitors. It allows to train large LLMS locally. You didnt even mention Copilot+ at all in your comparision. That doesnt make any sense at all
One major point you missed is screen brightness. The Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x has 1000 nit HDR, which is exceptional and really makes a huge difference for daytime use. It also has 70w battery, despite being one of the lightest, thinnest, and cheapest laptops in the list for the specs... I honestly feel they underpriced it compared to the others lol. For these reasons, it's what I'll be going for.
@@yajasmalhotra9011 The only difference between them afaik is the dual-core boost and how high it gets. This isn't a gaming laptop. For a thin and light notebook like this, efficiency is more important. For higher SKUs with higher TDP, you want a bigger chassis for better thermal dissipation.
@@cynicist8114 fair point, I've been eyeing the Yoga for a while too because it's probably the best of the new laptops. I would still like to be able to do some light gaming so I wonder what the difference in GPU performance is across chips
@@yajasmalhotra9011 There is no difference between the middle and bottom tier SKUs. The top tier one does get more GPU performance, but to my knowledge, the only laptop that includes it is the 16" Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge, which goes for $1750. The chassis is thin, so who knows how much of the actual performance of the chip you will get. Reviewers will have to find out if the cooling is adequate, or how much it throttles. It's a nice looking laptop, but I wanted a 14" for more portability. Their 14" has the mid tier SKU, so it will be interesting to see how much difference in performance the dual core boost gives.
The Lenovo CTO Slim 7x has very reasonably priced RAM/SSD upgrades; 32GB/1TB for +$73, making it $1284. The cheapest option for 32GB of RAM. Best Buy also has a promo preorder a Snapdragon Laptop get a Insignia 50 4k TV. It would be nice to know what biometric security features each model has.
Great research you have made! Thanks! Kindly make(if possible) ULTIMATE laptop competition = X Elite 84 with 64Gb RAM(who alse lenovo 14s offers) +++ not soldered SSD +++ in case of memory not soldered - what is the price of upgrade?
Good video. I ended up preordering the Lenovo Slim 7x based on it having the least number of compromises (I can get the full 32GB of memory, OLED, huge battery, etc). My runners up were similar to your selection, the Surface Laptop and the Galaxy Book4 Edge. I can't wait to see the Cosmic Blue color in person, and evaluate the Snapdragon X Elite. I'm hugely optimistic after being disappointed by Intel laptops for so long. Another positive aspect is that Linux support for this hardware should be in place after kernel release 6.11, which will be in a few months.
To me Lenovo appears the way to go, on lenovo website you can custom build and upgrade to 32 gb memory and 1 TB SSB for only $35 each, beats the $400 Apple would have charged for the same upgrades. As well, if considering the Asus computer, Costco is selling an upgraded 32 gb version for the same price as other sellers, so might as well buy from them. Waited to see if Apple would drop hardware today, and their presentation was unremarkable so looking into these PCs (first PC in over a decade for me, but he AI assistant feature with copilot is a gamechanger, a built in tutor for virtually anything such as content creation, programming, etc.). Thanks for the helpful content and useful comparisons!
I also went for the Lenovo 7x, with 32GB/1TB. I wish the Dell XPS were available in some of the other configurations because I think that's the smaller form factor I would want, but no 32GB with OLED are available.
Kind of annoying the Galaxy Book doesn't come with 32gb of RAM. Seems like everything in this list has some sort of drawback, whether it be screen, processor, or memory related. Would love an option with Mini-LED because of the durability issues with OLED. I think the ThinkPad OLED would be my choice if it weren't for the price!
Slim 7x can be configured for 32GB for a +$35 upgrade (and also 1TB SSD for $37). That is the cheapest you can get the 32GB of RAM. I think the CPU performance/boost is mostly unimportant, any of them will be fine. It's the NPU that's compelling, where more RAM is very useful. It seems like they all have equal NPU performance.
I got the Surface 7 13.8 inch, 16GB, 512 SSD. As six months have gone by since you did your review, it was much, much cheaper when I purchased it in November ($899). I do wish I had gone with the 15-inch, but I was attracted to the Sapphire color only available in 13.8-inch. Everything works great. All the APPS I use work. The only problem I had was that I was unable to hook it up to my old HP laser jet printer, so I have to use my old laptop to print. But thet is more the fault of HP than Microsoft. You did a very thorough review.
Lenovo Yoga burns your eyes with a 1000 nits of display brightness. That's something I could take outside on a bright, sunny day and "work from home" efficiently w/o squinting my eyes and guess working where's the mouse pointer actually at right now ;)
I recently purchased a 14-inch Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Edge. About a week or so ago, Samsung had a special deal that included credits and a $400 trade-in for a device I wasn't using anymore. With the protection plan, I ended up paying around $803.00. So far, I am enjoying it.
Thank you for the overview! I'm pretty sure I'm going to try a Snapdragon based device for my next purchase. How many of you all are taking the plunge now versus waiting for a later generation for them to work out the bugs?
The video I was so looking for,with so much confusion with different brands doing different things. What a thorough explanation of each pcs strength & weakness their value for money factor I mean everything. Absolutely fantastic video…Thank you 🙏🙏 After everything done and said I prefer the Lenovo slim 7x but I’m really looking forward to 2 in 1 category.
Going with the vivobook! Nice comparison. Wanted a bigger screen. Only thing I wish it had was the touch screen, but I get 32gb of ram at costco, and it's a few hundred cheaper than the galaxy book, so might as well. Don't need another TV.
What’s the difference between OLED and AMOLED? Also, what is that EUS (or something like that) storage? I’m really considering either Lenovo Slim or the Samsung Edge 14”. If Lenovo was 120HZ, then I think it would be the choice. But I don’t really know if 90 vs. 120 would make a noticeable difference. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
After considering all the specs for some days I would go for Acer Vivobook S15. It has 120Hz, a relatively good port selection, I can connect an external monitor without port replicator. It has no touch, but I found myself never using that anyways. About battery life I read that it is a bit lower than the Lenovo, but maybe it is a driver thing. As right now (per what I have read) the igpu bottlenecks the snapdragon, it is mostly not important which tier you choose, all are mostly slowed down by the graaphics. The chip can address 64GB RAM, but 64GB is not available yet. So I wait for the next gen with stronger graphics (or dedicated graphics) and 64GB RAM, as right now my notbook is just fine for what i am currently doing.
I went with the galaxy book4 edge for the SDXE(84) and the dynamic amoled x2 120Hz although wish it was 32GB of ram and swappable storage instead of eUFS 4.0
Made the same choice. The Samsung with the 3k OLED was too tempting for me. It's also the best designed after the dell xps. Wish I could future proof it with 32gb but it's overkill right now for a non gaming pc. Not bothered with the 512gb storage as I doubt I'll use any more than that and external drives are so fast now.
@@EAC02 Bought the Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge 14" for $600 after stacking bunch of coupons and trading in my forgotten 2015 13" MBP. Sounds like a no brainer to me! Similarly also got their new 32" OLED gaming monitor G8 for $600 as well.
excellent. My favorite is the surface laptop 13 with oled. If the screen flipped around to use as a convertible it would be my ideal laptop. Once it's confirmed they are M3'ish series competitors in battery life, performance on battery I'll be sold.
I am looking at the Surface Laptop with 64GB Ram (black color only, as other colors are limited to 32GB RAM...weird I know) and a 1TB removable storage. As i run LrC and PS I think the RAM boost from 32GB to 64GBis important. Do you agree?
@@deepinside255 I run PS Beta, and LRC often at the same time, and may have the computer doing other stuff as well. e.g. loading CDs into iTunes. ps: going from 32 to 64 I definitely noticed and improvement in PS. Snappier.
Great job digging into the details, much appreciated. I can only hope something from the Elite processor line works it's way into something as light as the Microsoft Surface Go for us nomads. Cheers!
The difference with new new surface pro is that it’ll actually hit its projected battery life now. I don’t know where they got 19 hours from for the last one lol
For what it's worth, regarding the Samsung Edge, some people have reported actually receiving a 65" TV instead of the advertised 50". The 16 inch Edge looks appealing, I just worry that it will have the same rediculous trackpad as the GB4P which would be a deal breaker.
Last year in November i purchased HP pavilion 14 it's my first laptop and my only issue is even if i upgrade after 2-3 year is the display all laptops offer high resolution display but no one talks about safety from scratches and all that i haven't put screen guard on my laptop cuz i saw some videos saying it'll break the display please make video on this .
What is the driver situation for WinArm? I got some Epson scanners and older but still good USB accessories like screen calibration thingy and webcam, plus an old crypto wallet somewhere. If it can't drive all my peripherals then the whole discussion is moot. Not gonna touch it.
Costco deal, pre order ASUS Vivobook S Copilot+ PC 15.6" OLED (2880 X 1620) Laptop - Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) Processor with 32gb rams for $1299. Not bad
Hey, thanks for all this amazing info! I’ve heard some apps such as Google Drive don’t work on Snapdragon yet… can you tell us some more about app compatibility please?
I think the chipset is limited to 4k at 60hz for an external display. So even if laptops have HDMI 2.1 it may not do it. Something for someone to check...?
The 16 Edge top tier doubles storage and goes to the 84 for 200 , 100 for storage. Not only is the 84 a faster CPU but also faster GPU about 15 percent. With TV, it's not a bad deal.
@niveZz- Mac users have been running Windows Arm with parallels, although it's a vm. Performancewise, it's pretty good. Although if professional x86 apps are required, I'm totally inclined to Lunar Lake, Arrow Lake, or Halo Strix. Running layers to run x86 for Arm is great. But the price point for the Snapdragon is too expensive, in my opinion. I would wait on benchmarks cause Lunar Lake seems very impressive. Also, AMDs Strix Halo, although Halo, I'm guessing it won't match Intel or Qualcomm on battery life, but it will be def a good performer. I was hoping for 800 us laptops for the Snapdragon. Hence, I prefer a macbook. Most macos apps already migrated to arm instructions. But Windows Apps most will stay in x86 for the distant future. It's not profitable for developers to jump in the wagon until Arm has a significant marketshare. It won't happen overnight. It might take 5 to 8 years.
I basically knew this would happen. If Qualcomm was (more) serious about entering this market, and out-competing Intel and AMD they would have taken extra measures. For instance, they could do a "Partnership Program" where they offer deep discounts but the laptops must be vetted and meet a certain criteria. I think they did something similar, but they shouldve strived for more. For instance, the average Intel Laptop chipset ranges from USD $200 (large scale, slower models), on average about USD $400, and upto USD $700 (small batch, fast chipsets). So what if Qualcomm actually did NOT release any of the EliteX Low and Plus models. What if they only released ONE single sku, let's just say the EliteX-80. All the other models are to be released in 6+ months time. You know what they say about first impressions, and missed chances. And what if the cost of this EliteX-80 chipset was let's say USD $300, so it's cheaper than the competing $500 Intel chipsets. BUT. Those prices are reserved for 6+ months in time. But if you enter the Partnership Program, you can get the chipset 6+ months early and it costs you only USD $200 which is a big savings to the OEM. But the criteria is along the lines of 1440p or higher screen, HDR10 certification, 32GB RAM min, 1TB nVme min, and pricing that is around $500 cheaper than the market standard. Everyone will say GREAT, yes, please go and BUY it. And while Qualcomm may feel sad to miss out on the Profit Margins, and so will the OEMs, remember this is just the Partnership Program. It can be finalised within 6 months. Which means the deals come and go. And the next releases will come with cheaper/slower chipsets and at higher prices, more variants, and with specs that have more freedom from the OEMs. It will be like the "aha moment" from Apple with the M1 Air and the 14in M1 Max, which would really earn Qualcomm a good reputation. Jacking up prices later won't be great for the consumer, but supposedly other players can enter this market. Like Nvidia, Amazon, Samsung, and MediaTek. So that could cool-off the prices. Besides there is also price pressure on the Windows Laptop market from the dominant Intel and the innovative AMD competition. So yah, that's my two cents.
I love convertible notebooks with pens built on wacom technology, but the lack of convertibles with snapdragon elite x is an absolute missed opportunity for me. (The only swallow is the Microsoft surface, but that only has a detachable keyboard with an impractical pen slot).
I decided on an SP11 as I want to try out some LLMs on the NPU and there is unlikely to be an upgraded model any time soon. I expected better laptops coming through the year; or a mini PC I can remote to. I think it's worth waiting to see how AMD Ryzen AI 300 series laptops compare, but that won't make it into a Surface Pro.
Nice overview . Additional in Germany there will be another one with x Elite from Medion. I'm torn between Lenovo Yoga and Asus S15. Lenovo has the touch display and Asus has the 120HZ. In any case, both have the larger battery.
My preference is the OLED screen, large battery & card reader. You should have mentioned the all-round choice and the most value for money, which I guess you might have mentioned right at the end ??? Can't understand why Windows isn't native to ARM yet after working on it for over a decade. Performance I believe will take a mandatory hit of 15%, I guess that's not bad. Will this mean the return of Windows phones on ARM ? It would be interesting to see you compare ARM against the remaining market of X86 laptops from COMPUTEX for the prize of world's best.
The Surface is not the only hybrid or convertible, though. Asus has a similar offering in the ProArt PZ13. That's a 13 inch tablet with a 3K display at 60Hz (bummer), 70Wh of battery and a detachable (but not wireless) keyboard. It's basically a much slimmer ROG Flow Z13 with a Snapdragon on it. Although don't be fooled by the 800g weight they report, the kickstand is magnetic and the keyboard is detachable, so I don't think either is counted. Also, interestingly, IP52 water and dust resistance, which is weird. No preorders yet, but they do have it listed on ASUS's site.
@@rushabjain7485 They say 70Wh, which is just as big or bigger than many of the laptops covered here. Same hardware, same battery and a 60Hz screen, so I assume the battery life would be comparable. But I'm very curious about the actual battery life tests for all of these in any case. Considering the X64 Surface could barely break 5h in actual use the difference is going to be interesting.
@@rushabjain7485 The video you're commenting on literally breaks down the specs of a dozen of them, all that info is in there. The ASUS keyboard is not wireless, it connects with pogo pins and is held on magnetically, like the Surface keyboards do currently. It's worth calling out that it's not wireless because the new Surface has a keyboard that can do both physical connection with the pins AND bluetooth when disconnected form the pins. It's also 400 bucks, so you should not buy it for literally any reason, but it's worth noting the ASUS version doesn't do that. ASUS has historically packed in the keyboard and pen with its convertibles, too, which is worth noting because it makes a big price difference, but I can confirm that they're doing the same this time, honestly.
One think i am looking for in Windows laptops since i used a magic trackpad is a haptic trackpad in a Windows machine. I recently bought a used m1 macbook pro 13 and evne though i definately prefer the Windows Precision driver settings instead of what Apple offers as customization for the Trackpad and Windows in general over MacOS, i cant stress enough how much better the haptic trackpad feeld compared to a "diving" style trackpad. That alone for me is one of the main reasons why, even though I just got a "new" macbook and dont really need another portable pc, i still consider buying the Surface Laptop 7...
I'm debating between the Yoga Slim 7x and the Acer Swift 14 AI, the Acer should have a few more hours of battery since it has a lower resolution IPS display instead of OLED and a larger battery, but the Yoga is most likely gonna be better built and has an amazing display. The Acer would also be cheaper, the 32GB version of the Yoga is 1800€ here and even the X Plus is quite a bit faster than my current laptop But strix point could be interesting to wait for as the performance at 28w is looking stellar from leaked benchmarks, especially on the iGPU side of things and 28w isn't all that difference from the 23w the Snapdragon runs at in these so it could be a good alternative
@@manu-singh they can't remove it because it is built into the Snapdragon X SoC. However, it is up to the manufacturers to choose whether to support it with a SIM card tray and antennas which most don't do because it costs more to build the antennas into the chasis.
@@ShermanChin still i thik for laptops they would have removed the modem, if its there than I think we may see some DIY projects on TH-cam regarding it in the future
Thanks to everyone who posted about Lenovo's cheap 32GB RAM upgrade and Samsung's 16" (ports) and Elite 84 upgrade (1TB storage) bonuses. That makes them even better values!
I am disappointed with the different versions of 1 Chip. That will create more confusion when buying these laptops.
Why did they do that? Couldn't they just stay with 2 chips?
I hate Apple, but their naming scheme is better and straightforward. M3, M3 Pro, M3 Max.
The surface pros will just get the X Elite 80, even the 32 gigs version won't have the 84, which is pretty lame tbh. I asked the Microsoft support
The XPS 13 oled is only marketed as 60hz
DELL can go up to 64 GB Ram now. That is the selling point and why it beats all competitors. It allows to train large LLMS locally. You didnt even mention Copilot+ at all in your comparision. That doesnt make any sense at all
amazing comparisons and insane amount of work and time put in! very underrated channel! keep the good work coming!
Thank you!
One major point you missed is screen brightness. The Lenovo Yoga Slim 7x has 1000 nit HDR, which is exceptional and really makes a huge difference for daytime use. It also has 70w battery, despite being one of the lightest, thinnest, and cheapest laptops in the list for the specs... I honestly feel they underpriced it compared to the others lol. For these reasons, it's what I'll be going for.
Yep, already preordered it myself. It's the laptop with the least number of compromises.
It has the lowest skew chip
@@yajasmalhotra9011 The only difference between them afaik is the dual-core boost and how high it gets. This isn't a gaming laptop. For a thin and light notebook like this, efficiency is more important.
For higher SKUs with higher TDP, you want a bigger chassis for better thermal dissipation.
@@cynicist8114 fair point, I've been eyeing the Yoga for a while too because it's probably the best of the new laptops. I would still like to be able to do some light gaming so I wonder what the difference in GPU performance is across chips
@@yajasmalhotra9011 There is no difference between the middle and bottom tier SKUs. The top tier one does get more GPU performance, but to my knowledge, the only laptop that includes it is the 16" Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge, which goes for $1750.
The chassis is thin, so who knows how much of the actual performance of the chip you will get. Reviewers will have to find out if the cooling is adequate, or how much it throttles. It's a nice looking laptop, but I wanted a 14" for more portability. Their 14" has the mid tier SKU, so it will be interesting to see how much difference in performance the dual core boost gives.
The Lenovo CTO Slim 7x has very reasonably priced RAM/SSD upgrades; 32GB/1TB for +$73, making it $1284. The cheapest option for 32GB of RAM. Best Buy also has a promo preorder a Snapdragon Laptop get a Insignia 50 4k TV. It would be nice to know what biometric security features each model has.
Lenovo's upgrade pricing is definitely generous. And thanks for pointing out the Best Buy offer!
I wish you can upgrade it on Best Buy so you get the tv too
That promo is for bestbuy members?
yeah good comparisons here, nice work!
Thank you!
Great research you have made! Thanks! Kindly make(if possible) ULTIMATE laptop competition = X Elite 84 with 64Gb RAM(who alse lenovo 14s offers) +++ not soldered SSD +++ in case of memory not soldered - what is the price of upgrade?
Great comparison video. Straight to the point and giving spec comparison was extremely helpful! Thanks!!!
I'm stuck between the 15" Surface Laptop 7 and the Lenovo Yoga. Super excited for these ARM based Windows devices
id go for the surface for the superior build quality and sd card reader. I went with it because my camera uses microsds
Good video. I ended up preordering the Lenovo Slim 7x based on it having the least number of compromises (I can get the full 32GB of memory, OLED, huge battery, etc). My runners up were similar to your selection, the Surface Laptop and the Galaxy Book4 Edge. I can't wait to see the Cosmic Blue color in person, and evaluate the Snapdragon X Elite. I'm hugely optimistic after being disappointed by Intel laptops for so long. Another positive aspect is that Linux support for this hardware should be in place after kernel release 6.11, which will be in a few months.
To me Lenovo appears the way to go, on lenovo website you can custom build and upgrade to 32 gb memory and 1 TB SSB for only $35 each, beats the $400 Apple would have charged for the same upgrades. As well, if considering the Asus computer, Costco is selling an upgraded 32 gb version for the same price as other sellers, so might as well buy from them. Waited to see if Apple would drop hardware today, and their presentation was unremarkable so looking into these PCs (first PC in over a decade for me, but he AI assistant feature with copilot is a gamechanger, a built in tutor for virtually anything such as content creation, programming, etc.). Thanks for the helpful content and useful comparisons!
Upgrade pricing is definitely a great consideration! Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks for the post, I'm going to go with the Costco option.
I also went for the Lenovo 7x, with 32GB/1TB. I wish the Dell XPS were available in some of the other configurations because I think that's the smaller form factor I would want, but no 32GB with OLED are available.
Check out the Surface Laptop 7 @ the same price it makes a lot more sense.
Kind of annoying the Galaxy Book doesn't come with 32gb of RAM. Seems like everything in this list has some sort of drawback, whether it be screen, processor, or memory related. Would love an option with Mini-LED because of the durability issues with OLED. I think the ThinkPad OLED would be my choice if it weren't for the price!
Only if it came with 32gb...
They will probably reserve 32gb ram for business customers
Slim 7x can be configured for 32GB for a +$35 upgrade (and also 1TB SSD for $37). That is the cheapest you can get the 32GB of RAM. I think the CPU performance/boost is mostly unimportant, any of them will be fine. It's the NPU that's compelling, where more RAM is very useful. It seems like they all have equal NPU performance.
What are the durability issues of a OLED?
@nishant3899 that's for business customers though. Samsung would most likely do the same for Galaxy Book 4 Edge.
Thank you for the very helpful comparaison. Just a little mistake: the 14 inch galaxy book 4 edge does not come with an USB A Port.
Good catch on the port differences between 14" and 16" Galaxy Book 4 Edge!
The Vivobook also has a SKU with 32 GB of RAM in certain markets.
I got the Surface 7 13.8 inch, 16GB, 512 SSD. As six months have gone by since you did your review, it was much, much cheaper when I purchased it in November ($899). I do wish I had gone with the 15-inch, but I was attracted to the Sapphire color only available in 13.8-inch. Everything works great. All the APPS I use work. The only problem I had was that I was unable to hook it up to my old HP laser jet printer, so I have to use my old laptop to print. But thet is more the fault of HP than Microsoft. You did a very thorough review.
I found your video completly random but it helps me a lot! Good job and tkanks mate!
Great video. good Ranking! Thanks
Excellent summary. You put a lot of work into this. Appreciated. If only you could easily update your video as specs change.
Is it possible that the HDMI 2.1 port is limited by the chip to 4k 60?
Beautifully explained.
Is the Galaxy book 4 edge having eufs storage a big deal for video editing?
jez, best comparison so far, great job.
Great content! You saved us a lot of time and efforts! Many thanks.
I went for the Lenovo Yoga. Here in Germany, I paid €1520 for the 32GB / 1TB version
Lol they are giving us the lowest 74 snapdragon x elite chip and slapping us with a high price tag! 💀
What's the point if you can buy a Macbook near that price point? You can run MacOs + Windows Arm + Prism emulation x86.
still better pricing then MacBooks $200+ ram upgrade options
Yeah, but the lowest X Elite is X1E-78-100
@@MrPtheMan I'm wondering if there are more apps & games that can run on the Snapdragon than MacOS or M4.
@@MrPtheManupgradable nvme, cheaper ram, better performance, better battery.
Lenovo Yoga burns your eyes with a 1000 nits of display brightness. That's something I could take outside on a bright, sunny day and "work from home" efficiently w/o squinting my eyes and guess working where's the mouse pointer actually at right now ;)
I recently purchased a 14-inch Samsung Galaxy Book 4 Edge. About a week or so ago, Samsung had a special deal that included credits and a $400 trade-in for a device I wasn't using anymore. With the protection plan, I ended up paying around $803.00. So far, I am enjoying it.
Thank you for the overview! I'm pretty sure I'm going to try a Snapdragon based device for my next purchase. How many of you all are taking the plunge now versus waiting for a later generation for them to work out the bugs?
Great video!
Any fanless option?
The video I was so looking for,with so much confusion with different brands doing different things.
What a thorough explanation of each pcs strength & weakness their value for money factor I mean everything.
Absolutely fantastic video…Thank you 🙏🙏
After everything done and said I prefer the Lenovo slim 7x but I’m really looking forward to 2 in 1 category.
Going with the vivobook! Nice comparison. Wanted a bigger screen. Only thing I wish it had was the touch screen, but I get 32gb of ram at costco, and it's a few hundred cheaper than the galaxy book, so might as well. Don't need another TV.
thanks for your best reviews
What’s the difference between OLED and AMOLED? Also, what is that EUS (or something like that) storage? I’m really considering either Lenovo Slim or the Samsung Edge 14”. If Lenovo was 120HZ, then I think it would be the choice. But I don’t really know if 90 vs. 120 would make a noticeable difference. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
As a non gaming consumer, the difference (at least to me) is very noticeable.
After considering all the specs for some days I would go for Acer Vivobook S15. It has 120Hz, a relatively good port selection, I can connect an external monitor without port replicator. It has no touch, but I found myself never using that anyways. About battery life I read that it is a bit lower than the Lenovo, but maybe it is a driver thing. As right now (per what I have read) the igpu bottlenecks the snapdragon, it is mostly not important which tier you choose, all are mostly slowed down by the graaphics. The chip can address 64GB RAM, but 64GB is not available yet. So I wait for the next gen with stronger graphics (or dedicated graphics) and 64GB RAM, as right now my notbook is just fine for what i am currently doing.
I went with the galaxy book4 edge for the SDXE(84) and the dynamic amoled x2 120Hz although wish it was 32GB of ram and swappable storage instead of eUFS 4.0
Made the same choice. The Samsung with the 3k OLED was too tempting for me. It's also the best designed after the dell xps. Wish I could future proof it with 32gb but it's overkill right now for a non gaming pc. Not bothered with the 512gb storage as I doubt I'll use any more than that and external drives are so fast now.
hopefully the screen doesnt break like most galaxy books
Same here
@@EAC02 Bought the Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge 14" for $600 after stacking bunch of coupons and trading in my forgotten 2015 13" MBP. Sounds like a no brainer to me! Similarly also got their new 32" OLED gaming monitor G8 for $600 as well.
@michaelchoi5247 good choice. I got me the 16 inch 84-100 one. Traded in an old windows laptop. No free TV in my country though. Don't need it anyway
excellent. My favorite is the surface laptop 13 with oled. If the screen flipped around to use as a convertible it would be my ideal laptop. Once it's confirmed they are M3'ish series competitors in battery life, performance on battery I'll be sold.
Great vid, subbed.
Iam looking for a OLED laptop with non touch with ai integration with snapdragon processor with nice battery more than 10 hrs .what is your advice
I am looking at the Surface Laptop with 64GB Ram (black color only, as other colors are limited to 32GB RAM...weird I know) and a 1TB removable storage. As i run LrC and PS I think the RAM boost from 32GB to 64GBis important. Do you agree?
Why do u need 64 ram?
@@deepinside255 I run PS Beta, and LRC often at the same time, and may have the computer doing other stuff as well. e.g. loading CDs into iTunes. ps: going from 32 to 64 I definitely noticed and improvement in PS. Snappier.
Why not add battery duration to the compare table? it seems the most important bechmark
Manufacturer claimed battery life is misleading
It's too varied depending on use cases.
Thank you for making the best comparison of these snapdragon x elite laptops!
ASUS Vivobook S Copilot+ PC 15.6" OLED (2880 X 1620) Laptop - Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) Processor - Windows 11 32 gb for $1,299 in costco
no 2 in1 option other than surface right?
I ranked them nearly exactly like you did.
Microsoft 15" Surface Laptop 7
Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge 16"
Lenovo Yoga Slim X
Great job digging into the details, much appreciated. I can only hope something from the Elite processor line works it's way into something as light as the Microsoft Surface Go for us nomads. Cheers!
I wish you've shared this on a google sheet for easy compare :)
Its very useful video bro 👌Nice work 💯
Keep up with your work 🎉
Love from India❤
Which one has a physical SIM card slot?
Doing such a great job
Could you suggest me the most suitable laptop for hardcore coding with SDprocessor that would last long and Screen size < 16'
Are they making is a 2 in 1 convertible?
Amazing video! Could you please post the link to the HP OmniBook X 14 32GB model? I can't find it on HP's website.
The difference with new new surface pro is that it’ll actually hit its projected battery life now. I don’t know where they got 19 hours from for the last one lol
How many external displays do they support?
Any chance you can share your comparison spreadsheet from the video? It's the best I've seen.
Traded my M1 Max for the galaxy laptop and it came with the free TV. I also have an M3 max so the trade was a no brainer. Trade in value was for $800
Obviously its all just us guessing but do you think Framework will announce a Snapdragon CPU laptop before the end of this year?
Thank you 🙏 Great comparison.
For what it's worth, regarding the Samsung Edge, some people have reported actually receiving a 65" TV instead of the advertised 50". The 16 inch Edge looks appealing, I just worry that it will have the same rediculous trackpad as the GB4P which would be a deal breaker.
I got the 65 inch TV but that only appears when I log in through my company email.
Got Lenovo Yoga 7X, 32 gig, 1 tb ssd, WinPro11, looking to dual boot it.
Great review! So what is the best laptop for this year Snapdragon that has great storage and is fast?
Last year in November i purchased HP pavilion 14 it's my first laptop and my only issue is even if i upgrade after 2-3 year is the display all laptops offer high resolution display but no one talks about safety from scratches and all that i haven't put screen guard on my laptop cuz i saw some videos saying it'll break the display please make video on this .
Prices are very different in my country. The Surface 7 15” costs 50% more than the Vivobook S 15 with twice the RAM (32 GB).
What is the driver situation for WinArm? I got some Epson scanners and older but still good USB accessories like screen calibration thingy and webcam, plus an old crypto wallet somewhere. If it can't drive all my peripherals then the whole discussion is moot. Not gonna touch it.
Costco deal, pre order
ASUS Vivobook S Copilot+ PC 15.6" OLED (2880 X 1620) Laptop - Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite (12 Core) Processor with 32gb rams for $1299. Not bad
very informative, thanks
Hey, thanks for all this amazing info!
I’ve heard some apps such as Google Drive don’t work on Snapdragon yet… can you tell us some more about app compatibility please?
But it's about games. Other office tools mostly support ARM natively so it shouldn't be a problem.
should've included wifi 7 and all metal chassis in your spreadsheet as those are extremely important
Do these come with bundled co-pilot subscriptions?
Thanks for the video I was trying to figure out which x lite laptop to get 👍
What about the Asus Zenbook series? It has better ports as well as performance compared to the laptops on your list.
Exactly my thoughts
ASUS also has the ProART PZ13 launching
Can you share your spreadsheet?
If I add the Brand reliability & longevity the sequence might change dramatically. My mates working in IT have suggested I avoid some brands totally.
That's a good point!
Like Acer
I feel like the general sentiment is poor for just about any laptop manufacturer though. The few notable exceptions are very niche, like Framework.
Care to share which?
I think the chipset is limited to 4k at 60hz for an external display. So even if laptops have HDMI 2.1 it may not do it. Something for someone to check...?
The 16 Edge top tier doubles storage and goes to the 84 for 200 , 100 for storage. Not only is the 84 a faster CPU but also faster GPU about 15 percent. With TV, it's not a bad deal.
Why bother, just get an macbook. Macos + Windows arm + prism emulation x86.
It's not cheap, not that competitive.
Good catch on the additional 16" difference!
@@MrPtheManwait are there w11 arm VMs??
@niveZz- Mac users have been running Windows Arm with parallels, although it's a vm. Performancewise, it's pretty good. Although if professional x86 apps are required, I'm totally inclined to Lunar Lake, Arrow Lake, or Halo Strix. Running layers to run x86 for Arm is great. But the price point for the Snapdragon is too expensive, in my opinion.
I would wait on benchmarks cause Lunar Lake seems very impressive. Also, AMDs Strix Halo, although Halo, I'm guessing it won't match Intel or Qualcomm on battery life, but it will be def a good performer.
I was hoping for 800 us laptops for the Snapdragon.
Hence, I prefer a macbook. Most macos apps already migrated to arm instructions. But Windows Apps most will stay in x86 for the distant future. It's not profitable for developers to jump in the wagon until Arm has a significant marketshare. It won't happen overnight. It might take 5 to 8 years.
eUFS storage, non upgradable.
The only reason I preordered one is because Microsoft put the snapdragon in their flagship laptops
Most useful video on Snapdragon laptops!
Whg does every single device here that is releasing has some sort of drawback ?
I basically knew this would happen. If Qualcomm was (more) serious about entering this market, and out-competing Intel and AMD they would have taken extra measures.
For instance, they could do a "Partnership Program" where they offer deep discounts but the laptops must be vetted and meet a certain criteria. I think they did something similar, but they shouldve strived for more.
For instance, the average Intel Laptop chipset ranges from USD $200 (large scale, slower models), on average about USD $400, and upto USD $700 (small batch, fast chipsets).
So what if Qualcomm actually did NOT release any of the EliteX Low and Plus models. What if they only released ONE single sku, let's just say the EliteX-80. All the other models are to be released in 6+ months time. You know what they say about first impressions, and missed chances. And what if the cost of this EliteX-80 chipset was let's say USD $300, so it's cheaper than the competing $500 Intel chipsets. BUT. Those prices are reserved for 6+ months in time. But if you enter the Partnership Program, you can get the chipset 6+ months early and it costs you only USD $200 which is a big savings to the OEM. But the criteria is along the lines of 1440p or higher screen, HDR10 certification, 32GB RAM min, 1TB nVme min, and pricing that is around $500 cheaper than the market standard.
Everyone will say GREAT, yes, please go and BUY it. And while Qualcomm may feel sad to miss out on the Profit Margins, and so will the OEMs, remember this is just the Partnership Program. It can be finalised within 6 months. Which means the deals come and go. And the next releases will come with cheaper/slower chipsets and at higher prices, more variants, and with specs that have more freedom from the OEMs. It will be like the "aha moment" from Apple with the M1 Air and the 14in M1 Max, which would really earn Qualcomm a good reputation.
Jacking up prices later won't be great for the consumer, but supposedly other players can enter this market. Like Nvidia, Amazon, Samsung, and MediaTek. So that could cool-off the prices. Besides there is also price pressure on the Windows Laptop market from the dominant Intel and the innovative AMD competition.
So yah, that's my two cents.
Samsung galaxy book4 edge 16" with the 84 x elite pre ordered.
Also the XPS 13 OLED has a tandem OLED display, so the battery life hit of OLED screens won't apply here as they are more efficient and last longer
Nice information
All these specs are on paper, we need similar video after the release of these machines, I think the decision will change
2:41 - low tier X Elite, no Plus option. I thought Elite is the higher tier one.
there are 3 different X elite SKUs which differ in performance. Seams like Dell is putting in the more performant one than the others
Thx for really good comparison. This is the video i am looking for. Surface laptop n lenovo slim seems to be a really good choice.
I love convertible notebooks with pens built on wacom technology, but the lack of convertibles with snapdragon elite x is an absolute missed opportunity for me. (The only swallow is the Microsoft surface, but that only has a detachable keyboard with an impractical pen slot).
Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge has eUFS storage which is soldered in. You cannot upgrade the SSD. This is an important difference you've missed.
I went with the Asus vivobook S 15 Snapdragon pluss for 499$ hoping it works as well as my older hp probook.
I decided on an SP11 as I want to try out some LLMs on the NPU and there is unlikely to be an upgraded model any time soon. I expected better laptops coming through the year; or a mini PC I can remote to. I think it's worth waiting to see how AMD Ryzen AI 300 series laptops compare, but that won't make it into a Surface Pro.
SO THE ONLY ONE WITH A PEN IS THE SURFACE PRO?
Nice overview . Additional in Germany there will be another one with x Elite from Medion. I'm torn between Lenovo Yoga and Asus S15. Lenovo has the touch display and Asus has the 120HZ. In any case, both have the larger battery.
I was stuck between the same cross roads aswell. But eventually decided to go for the lenovo, cause of the touch panel
My preference is the OLED screen, large battery & card reader. You should have mentioned the all-round choice and the most value for money, which I guess you might have mentioned right at the end ??? Can't understand why Windows isn't native to ARM yet after working on it for over a decade. Performance I believe will take a mandatory hit of 15%, I guess that's not bad. Will this mean the return of Windows phones on ARM ? It would be interesting to see you compare ARM against the remaining market of X86 laptops from COMPUTEX for the prize of world's best.
I went with the 16in Samsung plus you got a 65inch TV with preorder
Excellent video smashing so much info. 👍👍👍
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Is it still worth it to buy a laptop with a dedicated GPU anymore?
Lenovo for me but I need to know how good is it for video editing
Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge 16" looking pretty nice ngl among the others
The Surface is not the only hybrid or convertible, though. Asus has a similar offering in the ProArt PZ13. That's a 13 inch tablet with a 3K display at 60Hz (bummer), 70Wh of battery and a detachable (but not wireless) keyboard. It's basically a much slimmer ROG Flow Z13 with a Snapdragon on it. Although don't be fooled by the 800g weight they report, the kickstand is magnetic and the keyboard is detachable, so I don't think either is counted. Also, interestingly, IP52 water and dust resistance, which is weird.
No preorders yet, but they do have it listed on ASUS's site.
@@rushabjain7485 They say 70Wh, which is just as big or bigger than many of the laptops covered here. Same hardware, same battery and a 60Hz screen, so I assume the battery life would be comparable. But I'm very curious about the actual battery life tests for all of these in any case. Considering the X64 Surface could barely break 5h in actual use the difference is going to be interesting.
@@rushabjain7485 The video you're commenting on literally breaks down the specs of a dozen of them, all that info is in there.
The ASUS keyboard is not wireless, it connects with pogo pins and is held on magnetically, like the Surface keyboards do currently. It's worth calling out that it's not wireless because the new Surface has a keyboard that can do both physical connection with the pins AND bluetooth when disconnected form the pins. It's also 400 bucks, so you should not buy it for literally any reason, but it's worth noting the ASUS version doesn't do that.
ASUS has historically packed in the keyboard and pen with its convertibles, too, which is worth noting because it makes a big price difference, but I can confirm that they're doing the same this time, honestly.
One think i am looking for in Windows laptops since i used a magic trackpad is a haptic trackpad in a Windows machine.
I recently bought a used m1 macbook pro 13 and evne though i definately prefer the Windows Precision driver settings instead of what Apple offers as customization for the Trackpad and Windows in general over MacOS, i cant stress enough how much better the haptic trackpad feeld compared to a "diving" style trackpad.
That alone for me is one of the main reasons why, even though I just got a "new" macbook and dont really need another portable pc, i still consider buying the Surface Laptop 7...
I'm debating between the Yoga Slim 7x and the Acer Swift 14 AI, the Acer should have a few more hours of battery since it has a lower resolution IPS display instead of OLED and a larger battery, but the Yoga is most likely gonna be better built and has an amazing display. The Acer would also be cheaper, the 32GB version of the Yoga is 1800€ here and even the X Plus is quite a bit faster than my current laptop
But strix point could be interesting to wait for as the performance at 28w is looking stellar from leaked benchmarks, especially on the iGPU side of things and 28w isn't all that difference from the 23w the Snapdragon runs at in these so it could be a good alternative
5G sim card support?
I think only tablet will get cellular
@@manu-singh thanks for the reply. I think that really sucks since the Snapdragon X has a modem built into its SoC.
@@ShermanChin no I think they probably remove that chip for these laptops
@@manu-singh they can't remove it because it is built into the Snapdragon X SoC. However, it is up to the manufacturers to choose whether to support it with a SIM card tray and antennas which most don't do because it costs more to build the antennas into the chasis.
@@ShermanChin still i thik for laptops they would have removed the modem, if its there than I think we may see some DIY projects on TH-cam regarding it in the future
Good consolidated info on xelite laptops. Thank you. Do you think Samsung is a good choice??😮
Thanks! Samsung's offering does seem to be a strong contender all around.