Briggs and Stratton 5HP - Governor Adjustment - Model 135202
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- Governing: While some people think that a governor on an engine is to prevent overspeeding, (that was me, guilty as charged) the real purpose in the small engine field is to maintain a desired speed regardless of load. With a fixed throttle position, the engine could speed up if the load was lightened; if the load is increased the engine would slow down or even stop. (this is a quote from a Briggs and Stratton repair manual)
This video DOES NOT demonstrate the procedure to set the correct FIXED THROTTLE POSITION of the carburetor. It DOES demonstrate how to position the governor arm to a carburetor that is already in the correct FIXED THROTTLE POSITION.
This particular engine will be mounted on a rototiller and will be placed under load on a regular basis. A governor is necessary and should not be removed.
Model 135202
Type 0175-01
Serial 92091407
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Thank you! I've been searching for years to find a video like this. Just what I needed. No more engine "hunting" while it runs.
Happy to help! The reason that I made this video, was because I had the same issue, years ago but nobody else had a video. So I figured it out and made the video so others could benefit. Thanks for watching.
Lefty Lucy Righty tighty.
Hi just watched your video and it was very great my engine is having a problem with it where when I move the throttle it’s not moving the throttle on the carburetor and the spring just slides I’m wondering if this is a governor issue or what is wrong any chance you could help me out?
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sblg43 how do u adjust it to make it go faster?
Righty tighty, lefty loosey.
Very nice instruction video. Now I understand how to properly adjust a B&S engine governor. However, one mistake in the narrative needs to be clarified. At 2:24 he mentions that "the Briggs & Stratton repair manual says to tighten the nut to 35 foot-pounds of torque". The correct units should be INCH-POUNDS, NOT foot-pounds. 35 foot-pounds would snap that small bolt right off. Now, not that anyone is probably using a torque wrench to tighten that nut......BUT, if anyone were to do so, the correct reference would be "inch-pounds", NOT "foot-pounds". JUST-sayin'.
You are not the first to mention it. Thanks for watching.
There is a handy tool called a "Treysit Sirometer". In essence, it acts like a tachometer. I can't explain in this short message how to use it, but you can get it off the internet in a lot of places.
That's just what I needed to know!
This youtube thing is making geniuses out of all us idiots because technically, we are just sucking knowledge out of thin air!
Everyone used to read the manual, but TH-cam is easier 😋
Righty tighty lefty loosey my friend. Lmao
I am very happy that this helped. Thanks for watching.
No hugging! :)
Annnnd now I'm waayyy over revving..... Damn. Briggs 135232....
35 inch pounds? 35 foot pounds?
You heard that huh? Yes, it was supposed to be inch pounds.
If you remove the governor, you risk blowing the engine.
Anyone know what the shaft diameter is for this engine. Need to size a pulley.
Excellent explanation combined with a clear close-up video! Had just attempted the exact same governor adjustment and couldn't figure out what the screw was for, but now now it's part of the governor crank, not a clamp down on on the crank. Big difference. Thanks a lot for the help out! Will go back and do it right this time.
lol :-) Good video, and thanks for the info by the way !!
Will
I have that engine on a go kart how do you adjust the fuel mixture on these carbs I can't find any information on it
35ftps! Holy shit.... Are you sure? That sounds like head bolts. I mean, i ain't no gynecologist, but I ain't beyond having a look and give him my opinion..........
After 12 years, you would think that more people would catch my mistake. You are correct, that's too much. I meant to say 35-45 INCH pounds.
@@RealManSkills hahahahaha!!!!! I figured thats what happened lol. Thats funny dude! And thanks for replying. And that video was 12 years old? Wow... i liked your video alot. I just finished a 5hp yesterday myself. My rototiller popped last year, and nothing was reusable. The engine was a 1979, and i rebuilt a 1992' block which was in awesome awesome shape. But i rebuilt it anyway. Not one single scratch on the cylinder, or the crank and rod. Its amazing how that aluminum cylinder can ware out those rings like they were and not even have a ridge. So anyway i put all the parts off that 79 onto the 92 block and it runs amazing. Love those engines
I wanna remove my governor totally! I have a 5hp Briggs
The linkage under the tank is the throttle control. I bought this engine used and it may have been used on a go cart. I had to modify it a bit to use it on my garden tiller. The throttle linkage is dependent upon the machine that the engine was used in (chippers, mowers, go carts etc..) There is no way for me to know the proper linkage that was used on your engine.
There is no clutch cable for the engine, a tiller would have a control lever to engage the tines but that is not a part of the engine.
As far as the throttle cable goes, there are many many machines out there with different throttle controls. So it would be impossible for me to tell you how yours should be hooked up - it depends on what kind of machine the engine is mounted on. Start googling engine pictures to get ideas.
How does anyone know how fast these engines are going?
As far a Briggs & Stratton I have a Pneumatic governed 3 HP (1979) a Mechanical Governed 4 HP (1979) and a 5 HP Mechanical Governed (1992), and a 6 HP push mower.
I also have a Tecumseh 5 HP.
None of them have a tachometer.
There are tachs for sale for any engine these days.
35 inch LBS not ft lbs
Are you sure it said foot pounds? Maybe inch pounds.
You're probably right. I made this video a long time ago now. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the Video. My 5HP Briggs on my '88 Toro Huricane Leaf Blower now purrs like a kitten. Ready for fall here in Northwest Indiana.
Thank you for watching! Glad that I could help.
still helping all these yrs later lol
Yeah, I know. But when it's upside down, is left still left and right still right? Thanks a lot for pointing that out! :)
Where does the spring on the governor arm attach to , I have one rod from the carb to the governor arm .Yard Machine rototiller
Maybe this will help. th-cam.com/video/6q8WEp5qV0o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=o8RAixtj1rFsFyFv
hello how low could the govenor rpm be set // 1800 rpm // 1200 rpm // 900 rpm // yes these are all ac 60 cycle prime mover generator rpm // thanks frank
I have a tiller with a Briggs stratton model 1263120580b8 engine. On it the governor spring pushes and keeps the throttle in the wide open position and I'm assuming that once the engine starts the governor is supposed to adjust the throttle down, but that's not happening. On the engine in your video, the governor moves in the clockwise position when you move the throttle to the wide open position, but on my engine the governor moves in the counter clockwise position when the throttle moves to wide open. So I'm not sure how to turn the governor shaft, shouldn't I turn it counter clockwise till it stops. Is this normal for the governor to move counter clockwise?
I'm going to try this . I picked up a kart and the spring keeps it on full throttle. If I push it against the screw it drops to idle
I have the same engine 135202 5hp looks the same but black gas tank. My throttle won't open up past idle, it's new to me so I don't know what's wrong, I tore it down to see if something was bent but I can't see what im missing. Any ideas?
Thanks for watching. I am happy that I could help out. Hope you get things running.
I wonder why briggs didn't put an adjustable nut coupler on the gov linkage.
This works great.. I was having throttle problems between low and hight speed. This technique works perfectly!!!! Many thanks for putting this video up on TH-cam..
Thanks for watching!
Im having trouble with my throttle it’ll just stay open all the time even tho I have my linkage right
@@RealManSkills and it won’t idle at all
great video man. I am taking my engine and putting it in a bike so no real need for the governor since the load will be quite light. Mine is vert shaft and is converted to horizontal via oil system mods and carb adjustment. 6.75 hp 180cc on a steel frame bike. wooooooooo I am dying to see how that turns out lol.
mine does not have a tab near the spark plug,but i am trying to find out were to put the throttle cable,ther is a lever underneath the tank like yours has in the video so were does the clutch cable go as on my fathers machine which is a merry tiller, he has a lever under the handle and a throttle on the otherside
thanks very nice to know,i have just purchased a briggs 5hp engine from ebay that needs repair.Iin your video next to your spanner below the tank is a linkage.could you let me know what this is for?as i thought the throttle linkage was above and behind the tank mine isn't fitted with a ground on the magneto also ik don't know the year it was made as the plate is missing
Does it make any difference where the throttle is (stop or full throttle) when the governor is adjusted?
Yes, as I mention in the video, the throttle must be in the wide open position. Thanks for watching.
@@RealManSkills I was referring to the throttle position on the dash versus the throttle linkage by the carb. You mention pushing the throttle linkage by the carb to full throttle so that is a different area i.e. not the throttle position on the dash that pushes the wire inside the metal case. I am not sure if the position of the throttle position on the dash makes a difference or not. At this point I am only asking for the future as I found that my governor arm is broken. The governor part going from outside to inside the case is broken so the inside paddle is laying on the bottom of the case. I may not fix it as it is probably not possible to get a new governor part. Thank you for the help.
hooray 4 U !
Thanx for these videos!
U did a great job all around.
I a pretty good grease monkey..but never rebuilt a 5hp b&s.
I watched ur video and away we go.
I have cleaned the carb,head, new tank gasket, and fuel diaphram. and it's still a no start. (choked.../ then runs for 15-30sec..dies)
will adjust governor next.
But great videos...thanx!!!
Thanks for your post. I am a computer geek trying to teach myself this small engine stuff. I have followed your directions but I can't get the governor arm to react to the throttle. It will not spring back to closed in off position or vice versa. What should I look for? (The spring is attached).
Thanks,
Gary
I adjusted my governor as in your vid. and now idles @4100. I don't let it run there but how do I get it back down to where it was" just trial and error?
I just picked up a go kart with this motor. Strong motor but the governor defaults to wide open. Where is the spring that pulls it to closed position? Going to test into this soon.
hey question what is the part number on the air filter i have been looking heaven and earth for it and cant find do you know it??
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
you should just remove the gear from inside the engine . its must safer then doing what he is showing you
I too have search for a long time to try and figure this out. The governor on my sons go kart was giving me fits! Thanks so much.
Mod 135... 13.5cu.in = 220cc serial 92... 1992 model
Is it wrong to simply bend the wire forward? Rather than adjust the arm?
i have a question.
i want to make my engine run faster.
should o take off the govenor?
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for watching!
How do you disengage the governor
if you mean make the govenor not do anything you have to take the crankcase off and take the arm off and the spinner and put a screw (i think quarter inch) in the hole where the arm was with the linkage still there or the spring will fall off
I did this, and the governor is still preventing me from opening the throttle. Is this unrelated, or do I need to adjust it differently?
This is meant to limit the throttle to prevent over-revving. I'm not sure what you mean by "opening the throttle." Does it completely stop the throttle from moving?
@RealManSkills Yes, it completely stops the throttle. When the engine is not running, all the linkage for the throttle and governor works. I can move everything with the lever. Once the engine starts, that all stops moving, and I can't throttle up or down unless unless I do it manually on the carburetor.
@@VeggieBeard might be internal
@RealManSkills I ended up disconnecting the governor and putting my throttle cable straight to the carb cause even adjusting it while it was running it would not allow me to get a higher RPM. It was only decreasing the RPM
reminds me on the tonearm adjustment at my automatic tonearm lifting turntable
try ON TO THE RIGHT AND OFF TO THE LEFT and reverse this if working upside down. the righty tighty is not working for you.. lol.. good vid
Thanks for watching!
THANK YOU SO MUCH sbig43 i have searched for HOURS on how to do this!!! you are a life saver. Very simple well explained, if i could give you a hug of gratitude I would!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you! Someone had messed with my Weedeater Tiller, and I didn't know how to adjust! Many thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for watching!
Righty Tighty, Lefty Lucy
Thanks
I have the same engine and after fixing a stuck valve it would not get to top speed. I think I may have pulled the governor arm out of position or the spring may have been stretched. I'll start with adjusting the arm. Nice video, thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Spent ages on this today, should have watched your post first.
Great video by the way faultless.Thanks for posting it.
John
+johnypc2008 Thanks for watching!
Do that make it faster or not
That makes it set where the manufacturer says it should be set.
Can you tell me what the linkage is at the bottom of the fuel tank? It has a plastic cam that looks like it slides . the one on my engine is frozen , rusted.
Some applications have a throttle cable attached below the fuel tank. Some machines may use that sliding mechanism and some don't. Depends on what machine the engine is on. My other video may help - th-cam.com/video/6q8WEp5qV0o/w-d-xo.html
A grounding wire to the magneto is used to kill the engine and is usually attached to some switch or control for that purpose. Some older engines just have a metal tab that is pressed onto the spark plug to kill the engine. The tab is usually attached to the head near the spark plug. When you want to kill the engine, just push the tab against the spark plug until the engine dies.
lefty loosey righty tighty bud ;-)
Awesome video
Thanks!
I've never worked on a 5HP B&S engine before. Bought a used rototiller that wouldn't start. Cleaned up the carburetor and got it started but it's loud and appears to be vibrating a lot. Oil is full and looks clean. Not sure if it's normal.
Adjusted the governor according to your video but didn't make a difference. Anything else to look at? Thanks for the videos!
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The vibrating could be a problem. A bent crankshaft will cause vibration. Replacing the crankshaft is expensive. You can run that one the way it is but eventually the vibration is going to cause other problems. But it may last for many more years that way! No way to tell for sure. It might be a good idea to keep an eye out for a replacement engine.
sblg43 Thanks for the prompt reply. I heard it can be dangerous running like this so I will probably get a few tiller. Looks like the previous owner messed with the governor because he didn't even put back the link correctly. ... Worked on it again today but for some reason it wouldn't start now, whether it's at low or high. Thank you regardless for the help.
+Chad's DIY I know it's been a year but....
Did you ever check to see if the flywheel key was in good shape? If you hit a rock or something with a 5HP tiller and it shears that key, your timing may be way off and the motor will not run. This is a $1 part, which is designed to fail on purpose, in order to protect more expensive parts of the motor.
Did you check the carb diaphragm? That is the biggest killer of the 5HP engine. It's a little rubber sheet the size of a potato chip. Takes only ~5 screws to get it out. If your carb diaphragm is anything but soft and rubbery (stiff like a potato chip is absolutely no good) that engine will not stay running. It serves as a fuel pump to keep the motor going. The test for a bad diaphragm is a few drips of gas down the carb. If it starts readily with a few drops of gas, but then dies in 5 seconds, that's the classic symptom. You're just not gettting gas. These diaphragms need changing every 3-5 years and you can fix this for ~$3.
Thanks for the video! It helped out, much appreciated!
And thank you for watching!
Nice job
Thank you
I know this is old but thanks for the info.
Thanks!
You bet!
Great Video.I've been messing with a similar motor 135202 and is missing the part where the throttle cable ties into the screw on your motor under the tank. I have the black square and the guy i bought the motor from had a screw into it with the with a cable and spring attached to it. Have you ever had to purchase that and if you had a part number. I cant find anything online but you. Glad to made this video. Thanks. joe
joe noneofyourbusiness A place to find great parts diagrams is partstree . com Thanks for watching. Never had to order that part. Sorry
thanks for the info. found the item, 692316 Go Kart & Mini Bike Throttle Easy Hook-up Kit. Slips right into the govenor black square and tightens down with a screw. www.quickieparts.com/go-kart---mini-bike-parts/692316-go-kart-and-mini-bike-throttle-easy-hook-up-kit.html
hi, i have this on ariens tiller
Common on tillers. Thanks for watching.
@@RealManSkills thanks for replying, this is the first time i m trying to change gasket and diaphragm on such engine :s
What happens if its the other way?
Your engine will probably run too slow.
@@RealManSkills thank you I wasn't sure what this adjustment accomplished both ways I am new to Flathead Briggs or small engines in general.
any videos on a tecumseh 8hp governor setings?
Not at the moment but there are others on youtube. Checkout donyboy73. Thanks for watching.
Great videos. This is the second I have seen. Short, concise and easy to see the basic detail, these videos provide real value and dispel my ignorant preconceptions. Thank you and please, make more!
+Q. A. Happy to help. I do plan to make more as time allows. Thanks for watching.
Thank you, very clear. I just cant get this thing to idle now.. hmmm
You have to hold the throttle open while tightening otherwise the arm will move back and you'll have that problem
what happens if you disconnect the governor arm COMPLETELY and run the engine? is that consider bypass?
Yes
Will it run like that?
@@MrsBuddevil yes. And much much faster
@@CabezaDePistacho mine was running way to fast... Think I screwed it off trying to simmer it down.. now it will start but won't stay running... Smh.. lol.
my governor doesn't move at all when i engage the throttle. why would that be?
Your governor may be sticking. That could be on the outside or the inside. I hope you can find the problem.
will adjusting this make it loose power?
If it's adjusted to factory specifications, it should have the power that the company has it rated at. In this case, 5HP.
a job well done keep up the good work very well done on video .thanks
Thank you!
Great video, man do I love you Tube! Good job BTW.
+Dana Patelzick Thanks for watching!
why does my go-cart idle fine but wont take off it wants to stall
+Donald Green Without knowing more details, I would guess that when you try to accelerate, the carb is getting too much gas and choking itself out. Carb adjustment needed. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching,
thanks , your video is still useful after 9 years .
Thank you. That used to be my top video!
thanks for the video they are very good. I must point out for a briggs quantum vertical shaft. The Governor shaft must be turned anti clockwise. orherwise the engine will over rev.
+rockartistet Thanks for watching! Thanks for the additional info.
As I found out Today .... I figured it out after 15 mins of wondering and thinking about it ....
@@garywatson8602 so is it counter or clockwise? You boys are confusing this girl
Solid video. Any idea where I can find the manual for this engine? Bought a go kart for my son with this motor in it that isn't running.
+Tyler Read Check out "Briggs and Stratton 270962" - it's a "Service and Repair Instructions" book. There are different printings of this book out there, try to find the newest one for the most recent information. For example, I have one that was printed in 1983, and another that was printed in 1992. I also have two others that are older but have no date. So again, find the newest one that you can.
Thanks for watching.
+sblg43 Do I turn it counter clockwise to slow the idle speed? I followed your video and now it is idleing way high.
Tyler Read Sorry but this video is not about the idle speed. You don't want to use the governor to adjust idle speed. That is done elsewhere on the carburetor and is not easily explained. Sorry that I don't have a video to show you how that is done. Maybe there is another video out there on youtube to show that procedure.
Perfect, thanks!
Thank you!
freaking thank you man :)
You are welcome. Thanks for watching.
thank you good job!
+madmarkstoys Hey, thanks for watching. Hope it helped.
so i have the same exact engine 9n a go kart, could i just completely remove the governor
sorry my engine is actually the same except for it has 2 shafts instead of just one
+Kyle Orme I am not going to tell you what to do, but I have heard of some racing engines that had the governors removed. It makes blowing the engine more possible but hey, it's your engine! Thanks for watching.
+Kyle Orme I would expect that to create a risk of overspeeding the engine and grenading the whole thing.
yeah i did t really think of that
Bravo! Thank you!
Thank you for watching!
There is normally a model, type and code for the engine STAMPED into the engine shroud. However, some older engines did have a metal plate with that info. The Briggs and Stratton engine that I rebuilt from 1955 has a plate. Of course, sometimes those plates do get lost over the years.
very informative! mine runs great until the little "fuel bowl" in the tank runs dry. just replaced the entire carburetor assembly (with new pickup tube), still does the same thing. im tearing my hair out!!
fuel pump diaphragm or split pickup tube perhaps
Me too,I'm watching this to see if maybe the governor needs adjusted. Mine is on a tiller and was surging when I bought it,so I bought a brand new carburetor and it still surges. I'm not sure what else it could be?
how easy when you no how it's done. thanks man. the longer you live the more you'll eat.
+lester butt And thank you for watching! The more you eat, the more you'll p**p!
Thanks for the video. I was rebuilding my engine and school and was stupid to mess with my govenor.