@Sherry Graham why would anyone lie about anything ever. He was angry at his family? Why? You're not answering the question, why would he kill his family, especially considering how upset their death makes him?
Keep in mind that other attorneys at his firm would have Alex do the closing arguments on injury cases (testimony during prosecution case) because Alex could show distress and cry over clients he didn't know. It was his way of extracting the largest settlements that he could. Fooling people was his stock in trade. He turns it on and off like a switch.
And those people did get large settlements. He skimmed the top, for sure, but they all got their million plus. Oh and all the folks on the Netflix film got their cool million too.
I agree, i think he had a moment of "madness" where his life was unraveling and he snapped...he was also under the influence of drugs and it exacerbated the situation. Stay away from drugs kids...because you never know when all the right situations come together to create this kind of mess smh...
@@roverbett3858 I agree...i am not 100% sure he did it but who else could have? He also showed no concern in finding the murderer AND he hired someone to shoot him in the head...something is really wrong with this person...not normal thinking.
@@sew_gal7340 I'm sure if he was good financially & off drugs he would hire private investigators to find the murderers, its the police he's relying on to find them. If he told police about the kennels, police would just pin it on him & not find the real killers!
As an experienced lawyer, his first attempt to find out who killed them was to make sure no one contaminated the horrible crime scene, not to call everyone he supposedly wanted to comfort him, his son and his loving, loving wife were viciously murdered. The guy is lying to the core and believes that he will once again outwit the judicial system as he is wont to do. He is quite an actor.
Well then you aren't very experienced. Who in their right mind would even think of that if they came upon their family killed. You would not think logically. This was a shoddy investigation at best. He is definitely guilty of all the financials, the drug addiction, but I do not believe he pulled the trigger. Most cases of familicide end with suicide right on the spot. If he was guilty, he would NOT have taken the stand. Period.
Oh come on, he only cared about money and Maggie was financially the way out, so he's been taking even paraplegics up front. But one thing is very clear, he planted a good alibi and was helped by his corrupt friends. Who else but him needed to eliminate Maggie and for what reasons? Ambition and malice, he felt his false world crumble and it all started with Paul's negligence with the boating accident and Maggie the scapegoat.
Yup you are 💯 correct! This guy is very cunning and tried to get all his basis covered. He knows the law very well, his whole legacy was built on this. He knew what to do if he wanted the killer caught, bungle the crime scene.
Yeah, and he's been trained on what makes a good witness and what doesn't Alex hascoached witnesses on how to behave on the stand and pick jury's so this guy knows how to play his legal fiddle and he is still drowning in his own BS. He can't undo all of his lies changing the story at the last minute. Make some look even more guilty. The one thing about innocent people who get released later is their story is always consistent. 30 years later consistent to the second
He’s literally been nodding his head the entire trial. Although I’d call it more of a nervous bobble. Isn’t that like Rule #1 in body language? A baseline must first be established? Anybody who’s watched Alex at all in this trial would know that he’s constantly bobbling throughout. Therefore any insight that might be typically derived from observing any incongruencies to a yes vs. no nod is largely rendered useless
Thank you! Came here to say the same. I have no opinion about guilt or innocence, but it certainly irks me that someone that calls themselves a body language expert ignores this fact. The nodding has been in his baseline since day one, nothing to take note of, other than that’s what he’ll do when distressed. Which he would be on the stand, guilty or innocent.
I have no idea if he’s guilty but if I were on the jury and had seen him with this motion from day one in the courtroom, I’d be super suspicious if he didn’t display that rocking motion. I would think that he does that rocking/nodding thing unintentionally and if he didn’t do it on the stand I’d assume he’s working hard to control how he comes across.
I agree. I’m not super into what a body language expert has to say anyways. It just doesn’t matter. And of course, she says she has the whole picture painted when you mix in the body, facials, etc..
While sadly seeing another rich male murderer is NOT what we need in this world, when it literally could not have been anyone else .... i do take comfort in knowing the FEDS dont play around and are coming for his ass regardless
He’s been nodding the ENTIRE trial. During every minute . Watch the whole trial. Its just something he does all the time you can tell. It has absolutely nothing to do with him lying . He’s been nodding and rocking the whole trial.
Funny thing how he thought he would be able to convince the jury by his fake crying and snot drips….he wiped his face like a little boy, with bursts of energy, rather than adult type wipes. This body language struck me immediately as an act.
Yup!! This is how the narcissist lives with themself. “It wasn’t intentional”. Except for normal, not extremely sick people, it absolutely WAS intentional because all of this was based in choices HE made. He chose to blow their brains out, but he tells himself he didn’t have a choice because he was out of options. That’s how he sleeps at night. Same goes for Casey Anthony- she has gaslit herself to death in order to look at herself in the mirror.
@@insilence6156 yes!! That is so true! He has no clue how REAL men would respond to emotion so he’s mimicking a small child. It’s like he’s reverting back to when he was 5 (the last time he authentically cried?). He’s also overdramatizing it on purpose. LOOK AT ME! I’m crying! Very similar to amber Heard’s horrible acting on the stand. Authentic criers actually hold it in. We get that frog in our throat and fight back the emotion so we can speak. Which is POWERFUL to watch. He’s doing the opposite and it’s awkward as hell.
So is he trying to say that while he was supposedly sleeping on the couch, some stranger broke into his house where he was sleeping. Went into that huge gun room somehow found the bullets to match each gun and took them out of the house. Shot his family and he slept through it all. That's b*******
Bingo! The ammo used on Paul and Maggie was the same ammo retrieved from the property used for target practice. A desperate Alex saw an opportunity to solve his problems and took it. A 20 year addiction is hard to give up( family already putting pressure on him to stop) and it does change the hard wiring of a person’s brain. I have seen it before. He is Guilty but as a malevolent narcissist, they deserved it.
You forgot the part where they’re psychic because it’s not like Paul and Maggie lived there. How did an intruder know to come to moselle that night within an hour of them showing up? The one night that Alec summoned them to come? The whole story is BS. Also, let’s go to a HUNTING property where there are trained hunters and a ton of guns and hope to find a gun unattended and use it as the murder weapon? Lmfao yeah ok 👍🏼
Yep! Being a lawyer he does know how to work the juries! He has done many cases enough to work over a jury and now he gets to shine(he thinks) in his own trial!! Makes me sick to my stomach!
Yes! His ex best friend Chris Wilson said when Alex would do closing arguments on cases to the jury he would cry. It’s all an act he has perfected. Sure hope the jury isn’t conned by him.
He definitely tried to get his Mom's caretaker to say that he was at the house longer than he was. He then tried to offer her money for her son's wedding and also offered to get her a promotion at her other job.
And…he said he didn’t know where he left the blue and white dress shirt. I think if it was me, I would have had my entire family looking for it as that one piece of evidence could have proved his innocence!! But it was obvious he had disposed of it along with the weapons!
Actually Mushelly was the 1 who was going to get remarried!! Her kids were young! Her daughter was the only 1 old enough to work outside of the house!! I am GLAD Mushelly called her brother because HE was also LE but different county!! Family hat and LE hat of him would've advised her!! I wonder if he talked to his boss, so that if anything happened to his sister or himself. To look at Alex Murdaugh!!
@@jillgantz2195 exactly! He had enough time b4 calling his Mom's house phone to be let in, he put evidence in 1 of those buildings!! Look at the map of Almeda they do on that timeline! He parks near those buildings. It does NOT show him(in steps) walking around inside the house but it shows 58 as soon as he pulls up!
Eh... Most liars won't even admit things when caught red-handed. I know basically nothing about this case. What I do know: this "body language expert" is a fucking fraud
I love Dr. Lillian Glass. So insightful! Alex saying "I wouldn't hurt Maggie and Paul INTENTIONALLY" stuck with me too. I wondered if he'd shot Paul the first time by accident, then thought all hell would break loose since he already had financial crimes, boat trial, etc. so he finished the job. Buuuut.....everything was so premeditated from the blue raincoat, clean clothes at the ready, luring Maggie and Paul both there that night, going to his mother's that time of night when he usually did not, asking Shelley and the other caregiver to lie/remember things differently, lying to police and SLED, etc., etc. Alex called all his lawyer buddies before calling Buster - as if to halt the fraud against him and boat case took precedence over Buster's safety?! 🚩🚩🚩 Alex wasn't concerned about his own safety, the safety of everyone he called to come to Moselle, nor Busters. Alex expects us to believe that Ninjas crept onto the property without their own weapons, knew Maggie and Paul would be there that night in that short window of time. It would be comedic if it weren't so tragic.
To be as objective as possible here: I've had a problem with 'body language experts' all my life. The thing is, it's been proven by neurologists, psychologists, and psychiatrists (real scientists, not charlatans) that the claim that every person in the world reacts to the same things in the same way, with the same gestures, is simply not true. There is no such thing as completely universal gestures. And there is no such thing as being able to fully and correctly judge what a person is thinking or whether their reactions are 'real', based on body language. In fact, there are many cases where some people behave completely differently from the 'expected' human behavior in a given situation, and this doesn't mean that they are lying or hiding something. There have been many cases that have ended in tragedy because of 'interpretations' like this. Because it is ultimately just an interpretation, and it is still mostly people who judge strangers through a TV/laptop screen. Sorry but body language experts are mostly complete nonsense. Research it if you don't believe me.
Thank you. Body language "science" has been shown to be mostly junk science. There's a very good reason that the observations of a body language "expert" are not admissible as evidence in a court of law. So far, the purported "fact-driven, unbiased reporting" claimed by NewsNation during it's short existence has proven to be nothing but sensationalized pandering to a rabid, confirmation-bias-driven audience. Fact-driven reporting reports FACTS, not opinions presented as facts. I believe the man is guilty, but because of the mountain of evidence against him, not because of this or that movement he has repeatedly made every minute of the trial, whether he's speaking or not.
yeah it's something he does, he even has done it outside of the trial. it's a nervous tick. i don't think her analysis is accurate, considering the details
this is why our justice system is so broken, ppl react differently under stress, a juror has a "hunch" due to body language is beyond a reasonable doubt?
Many people nod and rock during stressful experiences. While I think he's very likely guilty, nodding and rocking in itself means nothing in the context of his guilt or innocence. Body language "science" is nonsense.
When Alex said "I overreacted" when he grabbed a gun, it's a leaked confession. He's admitting to the murders and how it happened. That's my interpretation.
@@jerrywayne3467 Yet called his surviving son and other family to come to the property, was walking around in the open on the property when police arrived, and never warned anyone to be careful of the “killer on the loose”. Never begged cops to go searching immediately for the murderer. Not the behavior most would have if terrified. I would have told everyone I care about except the cops to stay far away, lest someone else get murdered.
I respectfully disagree with your body language expert in regard to AM's head & body motions in this clip. Many years ago I was also addicted to oxycontin. I was prescribed 80mg X 12 pills per day. That's 960mg of "synthetic heroin" every day for over 5 years. For me, the "skin crawling" was the worst w/d symptom. I think AM gave a really good description to the physical w/d symptoms, but coupled with the mental symptoms, it takes the description of "feeling like you have the flu" to a whole new level. After I'd been clean for several months, I mentioned to my doctor that after all this time, when I laid down to go to sleep each night, the bottom half of my legs & feet were still feeling like my skin was crawling. In response, I would kick my feet & rub my legs & even give up on trying to sleep at all, because of it. My doctor told me that it was perfectly normal to continue to have this "ghost w/d" symptom. That it was my body's way of trying to trick me into using again. He told me it could continue for the rest of my life. That was 12 years ago. That creepy crawly feeling isn't as frequent as it was early on, but it does surface unexpectedly, on a regular basis. As a result of trying to comfort myself through the "ghost w/d" symptom I would rock my body. These physical movements are involuntary, and are a direct lasting result from my years long addiction to oxycontin. I don't know if AM is guilty of killing his wife & son, but I feel that the body language expert should have taken much more in to consideration before coming to her conclusion. Thank you.
THANK YOU! I caught ALL you said. I saw the nod and also wondered why the prosecution didn’t come back with a question on the “intentionally”. He’s as guilty as sin.
people remember trauma quite specifically. I'm a therapist, substance abuse therapist as well. people are blinded by their feelings with this case. he's telling the truth. and admitting to a life sentence worth of other crimes in the process. this is his final and only chance for catharsis after lying for 20 years. body language experts are mostly full of it anyway, and that's why their testimony still isn't allowed in court. get a therapist or psychologist on this show who specializes in trauma and working with the antisocial.
Yes it’s very deceptive. Kinda like when a politician delivers bad news with a smile on their face. It’s lovely to believe everyone is good, but the truth is there are a lot of sick messed up people in the world. Most of us try to justify other’s behaviour as good or bad based on how we would have behaved in a situation, but let’s be honest, regardless of who killed his wife and son, this guy is an evil psychopath that duped innocent people out of their money and made their lives a living hell. Someone like this can not be believed in any setting.
He has been shown to lie and commit fraud . They’ve no evidence whatsoever he actually committed murder . This is a murder trial and prosecution thinks it’s a financial trial
He rocks and moves his head in a nodding motion whenever he is distressed. Maybe establishing it as a baseline or he is distressed. He may find the graphic details and humanising of his wife and son as people not faceless victims too much. I think he did it.
Bugs me when these body language experts ignore the bigger picture. This is something he does whenever he's upset. It's like a self soothing thing for him.
This lady is an amateur, hes nodding because hes sure of his answer! there is no such thing as "normal" behavior, every brain is different and complex. he's nervous as anyone would!
He for sure is no way your living out a 20 year opiate addiction taking 60-90 Roxy 30s a day not happening and you damn sure ain’t gonna be a functional lawyer
The head nods is baseline soothing. Everytime he thinks of how Paul looked when discovered he soothes himself by nodding. He is coping with the stress.
He nods ( it is more like a tremor) on a regular basis. We have seen this since the beginning of the trial, it is not something new. He doesn't only do it when he denies things
His body language is so telling that he is guilty!!! He hasn’t really said I didn’t shoot them , or killed them with conviction but just through the motions and instructions of his lawyer 😊
Drugs has been the evil of many crimes. It's so bad that our younger generation has kill their own parents for the need of it, and as far as I know nothing serious is really being done to eliminate the traffic of it. How can people of power do anything when so many are Drug users themselves. IT HAS BECOME A VERY SHOCKING WORLD IN MORE WAYS THEN I CARE TO KNOW ABOUT. PRETTY DISGUSTING 🤢
I’m a recovering addict and let’s please not blame the drugs. Especially not OPIOIDS. Meth and similar drugs may make someone commit murder but opioids do not. The person is so physically ill that they can barely function when they don’t have it, and so euphoric and happy and mellow when they do. Every drug is different. You can’t chalk this up to drugs. The truth of it is that he’s a terrible human being and the worst kind of narcissist. He does everything to further his own agenda. He killed his family because of MONEY, not drugs. There’s zero evidence he even had a serious habit let alone was THAT desperate. I assure you, if he was heavily addicted, everyone close to him would know including his partners and clients. You can’t miss it. He killed them because Maggie was going ti divorce him and take a ton of assets, and because Paul was costing him money and reputation. Welcome to people doing bad things JUST because they’re bad people. Ps I never hurt a fly during my addiction. Drugs don’t equal murder. Bad character and drugs might, but not drugs alone unless they cause a psychotic break. Which opioids do not.
Looking forward to The Behaviour Panels analysis of this. I doubt they would even offer to comment on such a short clip alone with no insight to the baseline. Nodding, mouth grooming, rocking etc has been visible from the start. Id be more concerned about how fast he starts and stops crying. Its like a switch...
If the jury duty is data analyst people he will convicted less than five minutes. The verdict will come out guilty because of the data, the one extract from his phone that has a UNIX timestamp system. That’s a Blockchain create the time atomic clock, according to this time he’s guilty
Exactly! There were no tears immediately after the murders when he was answering questions before he knew he was a suspect. He only cries for himself now that he's being called to account for WHAT HE DID!!
@melissaquayle5615 Yes and you know one at least has had drug experience or has a close loved one who has. That is what he is using. Notice it's always referred to as a "battle" for him. The battle was one he didn't fight he just lied and kept using. He is full of BS. Manipulative by nature and by being an addict. He was sure he could convince the jury he was innocent. No way anyone else killed them. He had no heart when Mallory died ....he just protected his interest. He never comforted her mom and dad. He is capable in other words he has done it before thru his son.
your body language expert doesn't know the first thing about body language. He's not subconsciously nodding "yes", he's consciously pretending to be subconsciously rocking back and forth, deliberately displaying a well-known self-soothing, calming, motion (like rocking a baby). He does this calculatedly, to fake what he thinks is a display of distress whenever their dead bodies are mentioned; he's done this throughout the trial.
If you go to hour 3:29 of the trial yesterday, he literally blew snot of out his nose on purpose and let it drip right onto his pants. It was so obvious that he did it so the jurors would see. People who are saying he is innocent need to remember that he’s a lawyer and I imagine he has told many of his clients to get up on the stand and make sure you’re emotional, because it will help with the jurors. Funny watching all these real emotions now when all we seen after the murders were fake crying and constant dry sniffling lol.
I’m sorry no, that is a terrible body language expert. I watch a lot of body language experts and I caught the nodding, but one thing all of them say consistently is you still have to have a base line of movement from the individual to analyze them properly and if you watch everything else he has done he nods all the time. He has a natural tick that this body language “expert” is not paying attention to. I’ve only seen her a few times but now I wouldn’t trust a word she says.
The nodding is one thing, what freaked me out the most was how fast he switched vibes from "oh I'm so sad and I am so innocent" to "what did you just say to me?'"
I don’t know what he did however I do the same thing as I’m thinking of what is being asked of me. It doesn’t make me guilty I’m usually nodding to the question asked.
Having stolen or lied does not make him guilty of the murders. This family is a victim of revenge, maybe for something in the past, Alex did not murder his wife and son.
Exactly. body language reading has been debunked for not always telling if someone is truly lying. That's why it's never used in serious cases like in trials. It's just an opinion from someone who's overconfident making that said opinion.
Right -- I nod my head to indicate that I understand the question, or that I know the answer to the question. It doesn't mean I'm lying about the answer. Body language "experts" are generally charlatans.
Me too. I'm a diabetic and thirsty ALL the time cause my sugar is high. Doesn't mean I'm lying, means I have a medical condition. IF this guy was on drugs for 20 years, the nodding may be his baseline, etc. Thank you!
There is something she is missing as a person not from the South. Slightly misread. His lip movement refers to how people in the South use Tabak in their mouths. Snuff. This is very important to recognize. Waters even stated that Mr. Owen gave him water and tabak (snuff). Most of the US will never know these Southern patterns, traditions and body language. Just because some are detail-oriented and others are not says very little. Also in the South telling long stories is a type of norm. Being in the South in the country... That is a very special setting. It is also inaccurate to state that decade-long drug use can and will not change a person's behavior and movements. There are many studies on this. Those who detox, fall back on drugs and even commit suicide because they need the drug so intensely, the urge returns without support. It's a huge struggle according to studies and reports.
Can we stop with body language "experts"? It's been proven that it is pseudoscience. We are better off with having lawyers give their perspective instead. Next, you'll bring in tarot card readers. Smh.
I agree. This tarot card reader says "NO, Alec didn't kill them. He absolutely did not kill them. There were 2 shooters and 1 may have been a female" (due to the short stature of the second person). SLED and other cops on the scene destroyed it, jumped to wrong conclusion as cops so often do. Scene was not preserved, not measured correctly, not well photographed and therefore, wrong conclusion reached. Cops didn't bother to look for real killers, 2 of them - 1 of whom may have been a female. Thank you.
Who wouldn't be uncomfortable in this situation? If you have watched the whole trial you will see that he nods like this quite often and this is something I see frequently in people who are in recovery from opioid addiction - it is like a tick or a tremor. You also speak about him having "cottonmouth" - it is entirely possible that he could be on a medication like methadone or Suboxone to help keep him away from the pills he was addicted to and their euphoric effect. All of these kinds of medications including antidepressants and sleeping pills give you a very dry mouth, and I'm sure after everything he has been through he would be on some of these prescription medications to try and keep himself balanced. As for the "rocking" behaviour that she discusses, this is something that I (and many others) do subconsciously on a fairly regular basis and to me it is a coping mechanism that helps me feel comforted when I am thinking or discussing topics or issues that are traumatic/ difficult for me to talk about. I'm not saying he's innocent but I don't like these one-sided assessments when the "expert" fails to acknowledge other perfectly reasonable explanations for the behaviour they are criticizing. Why doesn't she discuss any other possible explanations? The same with the comment about mucus coming from his nose. You see him reach into multiple pockets on his suit jacket on several occasions to get Kleenex, but only has the one small tissue that he holds crumpled up in his hand.
He's in a county jail in South Carolina at the time he's not getting ANY narcotic in their Maybe anti depressants but not Suboxone or Methadone. NEVER. And Seroquel would be the only "sleeping" pill that would cause this
i am sorry this woman is silly - if u were watching the WHOLE trial this is HIS BASELINE behavior LOL - hes been rocking and knodding his head since DAY 1 of the trial when it comes to anything truamatic
That's exactly what I commented on the Livestream.His body language was all over the place.When he was talking about the murders it really seem to me he was staring in a script for a tv drama show and he failed at reading the script.
He's reliving the murders he is a well to do person that never wanted for anything so he's going to have a hard time in prison he's guilty as sin justice for Maggie and Paul
If you're on pills for a long time especially years, your body will indeed will or could have involuntary movements when you stop taking them for maybe rest of your life.
NON BIAS prosecution parroting: He did quite a good job.. apparently 1 or 2 jurors were crying. That however I don't like at all, but then again they haven't been exposed to the extreme amount of prosecution parroting that is going on online and tv, so hearing Alex was probably quite shocking for them especially considering how well he battled here and how good his acting is if this is indeed and act....... 85% of the population would have got folded up like a pretzel during even their own defenses examination of this. Obviously he is a lawyer, and it's fascinating to see him kind of hit each pitch so to speak. Not saying they're all good hits or home runs but it is like he's able to put bat on ball in every exchange. I honestly think the biggest thing they got him on today was never calling Paul Paw Paw before. My mind is really still not made up on this case. Listen people with the AMOUNT OF MONEY HE WAS STEALING, ok that's absolutely been fleshed out in court to be around 8 million right? So we know he has 8 million in bad blood from stealing money. Then we know he's dealing with tons of drugs. Then we know of two other things we have to throw in the boat accident and the gay teen. Then lastly we have to calculate the general hate they may have towards them for running the entire town for so long, putting people behind bars, Alex pretending to be LE and just how they generally may have been rich assholes to some people...... That's a lot of reasons out there for someone to want to off one or more of the Murdaughs. I mean seriously. The prosecution is in danger. The lack of physical evidence at the scene is insane. SLED really messed this up. As someone trying to be objective about this being a murder case not a financial case, Paw Paw thing is the first thing I've seen in a while that is fairly suspicious for me. In fact it is quite suspicious. If I'm a juror I still have a reasonable doubt and I'm begging the prosecution to come with it. I don't want to say this guy is not guilty because I lean towards he is but I still have reasonable doubt. With the two different guns..not being found, and everything we've seen so far my most rational mind honestly thinks it was two shooters. I keep thinking it'd be difficult for one person to do this without one of the victims getting away??? It literally seems like they were both ambushed simultaneously, because prosecution hasn't actually put this MURDER scene together at all for us. They need diagrams and descriptions of how it happened and make it make sense with evidence but....they can't do that now right. If I think it's two shooters I'm really not sure if they were hired by Alex considering he apparently had people on speed dial that would shoot him or anyone he asked or it was really a revenge thing from the plethora of vendettas against him....
If it wasn’t Alex… why would a Murderer come with no weapons on the off chance they’d find some there? If it was minutes after Alex left the kennels… why didn’t they shoot Alex as well? Something just doesn’t make sense!
He mentioned riding a golf cart, which would explain the trajectory of the bullets from the first weapon. I would also want to make sure Buster's girlfriend isn't lying to protect him since he is also suspected of murdering his friend Steven.
@@cathyallen3967 but what are the odds of successfully being able to shoot and kill both a young kid (I realize he had foot problems so.....maybe he wasn't super mobile...but he got down in the kennel etc I'm sure he was able to run) and a woman who can at least move as well from a golf cart?? Riding up in a golf cart with these two weapons and killing both with different weapons without either getting away? Didn't Paul essentially get a shotgun shot from up under his chin too? I realize AM could be a good marksman....but this seems like a 1 in a 100 chance you pull that off killing two mobile people with two different weapons firing from a golf cart.... I don't know. I realize also that using two different guns could have been part of his plan to confuse........I'm just struggling with this because the prosecution needs to put together a better picture of how they think it happened. I heard them mention "family annihilator" today, I thought that was good. Ala Chris Watts!!!! Is AM a family annihilator? That's a very interesting thought to me and kind of helps you comprehend why AM would possibly do this simply due to crushing financial pressure which to us seems completely unrelated but a family annihilator is different obviously
Let’s hope the prosecution stops running around the financial crimes & get to the grit & expose who Alex really is. They have more than enough out there imo to take this guy down, but will they do it 🤔 so far I have seen a lot of missed opportunities. His actions in the boat accident & blatant abuse of power over LE etc need to be driven home now.
Why would you believe corrupt SLED Cops and this prosecutor who admitted on the stand they lied (softer word mislead, gave false information ) 2 times to the Grandjury? They gave knowingly false information to the grand jury so they could arrest Alex. Why would you trust them? They admitted they knew the Tshirt had only animal blood. But let it leak to the Press and told the grand jury Alex had Splattered HUMAN blood on it when they knew it was Animal. SLED /COPS lied about the shot gun cartridge arrangement, knowing it was false information to the Grand Jury too. SLED/COPS/ and this prosecutor found UNKNOWN MALE DNA under Maggies fingernails and have refused to enter it into a National DATA base . Why on earth would you trust them? I think they should be fired. This is not special treatment. Alex feared the corruption of SLED and COPS. He talked when he should not have and never asked for any favors. Yes he is a PIG and should be in jail for stealing from his clients. This is not just a Alex problem. I am fighting corrupt lawyers and judges in Alabama right now doing it to my disabled brother. Huge FBI investigation of corrupt lawyers doing this to the elderly, disabled and poor. Its wide spread and I hope people use this to expose corrupt lawyers. A Judge and lawyer in Alabama were found guilty of doing this to elderly clients , stealing money and land. Maybe Alex to redeme himself will start working for the FBI to help them catch corrupt lawyers. I am fighting them now in Alabama for what they did to my disabled brother when my mom left money in a trust for him and me. The big story is the COPs lied again , as they have done to get the conviction they want. And ADMITTED to it on the stand 🥴🤪😡😡😡😡
What do those have to do with the murders? If the prosecution hasn’t already gotten to the grit and exposed who Alex really is, given they’ve already rested their case, I’d say that’s a major problem in a murder trial where the state has the burden of proof. AM has no burden.
We don't need an authority to rubber stamp human gestures- the fact that he took the stand is the best thing that happened so far. He's coming off as being very credible. The revenge against Paul motive makes sense- the financial motive doesn't. It's clear that he cared about his wife and son.
Here's the sad fact. The people who pulled the trigger are getting away with it. They never followed leads into Paul's numerous threats. There were definitely 2 shooters. The trajectory does not match his height. And the word "intentionally" is being over analysed. We all have used this conjecture. Everything is easy "after the fact". No one here has witnessed this type of horror first hand. They pegged Alex that very night. Never searched elsewhere. Shoddy investigation.
They found blood spatter on his shirt, so they basically already proved he was there at the crime scene at the time it happened. They tracked his footsteps and movements around the house/ in the area. He has never described what the people may have looked or been dressed like. None of what’s he’s saying adds up.
The nodding is a nervous tick. He has done it since day one. Even when he’s not speaking, when no one is speaking he nods and even rocks back and forth. It seems to be self soothing. I’m surprised this “professional” would be willing to make such a blanket statement based on a single excerpt. It’s irresponsible to say such a thing without observing him over a long period of time in different settings. Body language isn’t one size fits all. If he’d gone into too little detail people would pick it apart. Too much or too little detail, no matter what I think people would find a way to find a problem with it.
I bet if you ever find yourself in a situation where you are on trial, whether you are guilty or innocent, I bet you’d want an attorney. Otherwise, we’d have a bunch of Darrell Brooks’ on our hands.
@Kara Hall I have paid attorneys and been represented by public defenders. Those experiences are a big reason why I can joke about hating lawyers so much.
WONDER WHAT HE PUT ON HIS NOSTRILS TO MAKE HIS NOSE RU N LIKE THAT ,YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE HIM CONSTANTLY TOUCHING HIS NOSE AND EYES ,HE KILLED BOTH OF THEM
Internally ? The brain processes are very complex. If you are addicted to drugs and overuse...prolonged..it causes long term affects aaaand effects the neurological system and body systems. And a normal reposonse to grief? Have you lost as spouse or child!? I lost a spouse and let me clarify I cried to point of snot pouring, puking and there is not a pinpoint on grief. Everyone responds differently. And this is fact based both by experience as well as, medical knowledge...I'm not saying he's not guilty...I'm saying you're facts are very inconsistent...you can obtain all certificates and degrees you want but truth and facts are this...body response is different under different circumstances and drug abuse causes long term effects. Period. I've witnessed family members in such shape
@@sedona816 I understand what your saying but every person would still use the shoulder. And if he saw his sons head destroyed, why after a long period of time waiting for the police arrive dud he still ask several times if they were dead. It's all an act. If it were me I would have been on the ground cradle cradling either my son or wife.
You can't trust these standard body language analysis ticks when it comes to master manipulators & narcissists. It was literally AM's CAREER to perform in court & get sympathy from juries.
He uses “I believe” too much. “I believe that is correct”, “I believe that isn’t what happened”, “I believe he wasn’t here”…. I believe in aliens. Doesn’t make it true or correct.
Of course he is crying! Just because he killed his wife and child, doesn’t stop him from being upset. He is crying for himself, not his family
Exactly
yep exactly
Why would he kill his family?
@Sherry Graham why would anyone lie about anything ever. He was angry at his family? Why? You're not answering the question, why would he kill his family, especially considering how upset their death makes him?
@@Doppe1ganger their death doesn’t upset him. the fact that he got caught upsets him. IMO.
This what happens when the narcissists ego crumbles. He is in pain for himself not for the victims.
Exactly
They are sorry the castle they created has come crashing down, not for the victims caught in the rubble 😢
If he were a narcissist he wouldn't be crying they feel nothing
@@emilyheather328 They can cry for themselves very easily. It's a good manipulation technique that works well with and against empathic kind people.
Got that right. He's the victim, in his sick mind.
Keep in mind that other attorneys at his firm would have Alex do the closing arguments on injury cases (testimony during prosecution case) because Alex could show distress and cry over clients he didn't know. It was his way of extracting the largest settlements that he could. Fooling people was his stock in trade. He turns it on and off like a switch.
An actor! Exactly!
And those people did get large settlements. He skimmed the top, for sure, but they all got their million plus. Oh and all the folks on the Netflix film got their cool million too.
EXACTLY!!!
"Intentionally not hurting them" means that he hurt them & disappointed them due to drugs & stealing
I agree, i think he had a moment of "madness" where his life was unraveling and he snapped...he was also under the influence of drugs and it exacerbated the situation. Stay away from drugs kids...because you never know when all the right situations come together to create this kind of mess smh...
@@sew_gal7340 I can see the drug problem causing stealing, but murder is a huge leap! very few white collar criminals murder!
@@roverbett3858 I agree...i am not 100% sure he did it but who else could have? He also showed no concern in finding the murderer AND he hired someone to shoot him in the head...something is really wrong with this person...not normal thinking.
@@sew_gal7340 I'm sure if he was good financially & off drugs he would hire private investigators to find the murderers, its the police he's relying on to find them. If he told police about the kennels, police would just pin it on him & not find the real killers!
Or it wasn’t “intentional “ because after 60 oxy and maybe several drinks, he forgot who the heck those people were.
As an experienced lawyer, his first attempt to find out who killed them was to make sure no one contaminated the horrible crime scene, not to call everyone he supposedly wanted to comfort him, his son and his loving, loving wife were viciously murdered. The guy is lying to the core and believes that he will once again outwit the judicial system as he is wont to do. He is quite an actor.
Well then you aren't very experienced. Who in their right mind would even think of that if they came upon their family killed. You would not think logically. This was a shoddy investigation at best. He is definitely guilty of all the financials, the drug addiction, but I do not believe he pulled the trigger. Most cases of familicide end with suicide right on the spot. If he was guilty, he would NOT have taken the stand. Period.
Oh come on, he only cared about money and Maggie was financially the way out, so he's been taking even paraplegics up front. But one thing is very clear, he planted a good alibi and was helped by his corrupt friends. Who else but him needed to eliminate Maggie and for what reasons? Ambition and malice, he felt his false world crumble and it all started with Paul's negligence with the boating accident and Maggie the scapegoat.
Prosecution & law enforcement choked this away. Zero chance he’s found guilty. No doubt hung jury.
Yup you are 💯 correct! This guy is very cunning and tried to get all his basis covered. He knows the law very well, his whole legacy was built on this. He knew what to do if he wanted the killer caught, bungle the crime scene.
Yeah, and he's been trained on what makes a good witness and what doesn't Alex hascoached witnesses on how to behave on the stand and pick jury's
so this guy knows how to play his legal fiddle and he is still drowning in his own BS. He can't undo all of his lies changing the story at the last minute. Make some look even more guilty. The one thing about innocent people who get released later is their story is always consistent. 30 years later consistent to the second
He’s literally been nodding his head the entire trial. Although I’d call it more of a nervous bobble. Isn’t that like Rule #1 in body language? A baseline must first be established? Anybody who’s watched Alex at all in this trial would know that he’s constantly bobbling throughout. Therefore any insight that might be typically derived from observing any incongruencies to a yes vs. no nod is largely rendered useless
Thank you! Came here to say the same. I have no opinion about guilt or innocence, but it certainly irks me that someone that calls themselves a body language expert ignores this fact. The nodding has been in his baseline since day one, nothing to take note of, other than that’s what he’ll do when distressed. Which he would be on the stand, guilty or innocent.
I have no idea if he’s guilty but if I were on the jury and had seen him with this motion from day one in the courtroom, I’d be super suspicious if he didn’t display that rocking motion. I would think that he does that rocking/nodding thing unintentionally and if he didn’t do it on the stand I’d assume he’s working hard to control how he comes across.
Yes! I just commented on the same thing, along with the rocking that they discuss and his dry mouth. I completely agree with you
I agree. I’m not super into what a body language expert has to say anyways. It just doesn’t matter. And of course, she says she has the whole picture painted when you mix in the body, facials, etc..
He Already admitted he is a Liar, why cant anyone Believe him?
Regardless of whether or not he committed murder he’ll be in prison for his financial crimes.
While sadly seeing another rich male murderer is NOT what we need in this world, when it literally could not have been anyone else ....
i do take comfort in knowing the FEDS dont play around and are coming for his ass regardless
He’s been nodding the ENTIRE trial. During every minute . Watch the whole trial. Its just something he does all the time you can tell. It has absolutely nothing to do with him lying . He’s been nodding and rocking the whole trial.
That's because he knows he is guilty the whole time
Also, 'body language experts' would say that shaking your head from side to side is also lying in the same situations.... Absolute nonsense tbh
you are correct
That animal shot and killed his wife and son.
@@ek2137 probably true but that body language expert was talking mince
That statement "I would never INTENTIONALLY hurt Maggie or Paul" rang 1000 alarm bells for me!
Yes meaning he had to do it for a reason.
Funny thing how he thought he would be able to convince the jury by his fake crying and snot drips….he wiped his face like a little boy, with bursts of energy, rather than adult type wipes. This body language struck me immediately as an act.
@@insilence6156 All he was really doing was snorting snot! So disgusting🤮 All an act. As Mr Waters said the death stare he gives is the real Alex.
Yup!! This is how the narcissist lives with themself. “It wasn’t intentional”. Except for normal, not extremely sick people, it absolutely WAS intentional because all of this was based in choices HE made. He chose to blow their brains out, but he tells himself he didn’t have a choice because he was out of options. That’s how he sleeps at night. Same goes for Casey Anthony- she has gaslit herself to death in order to look at herself in the mirror.
@@insilence6156 yes!! That is so true! He has no clue how REAL men would respond to emotion so he’s mimicking a small child. It’s like he’s reverting back to when he was 5 (the last time he authentically cried?). He’s also overdramatizing it on purpose. LOOK AT ME! I’m crying! Very similar to amber Heard’s horrible acting on the stand. Authentic criers actually hold it in. We get that frog in our throat and fight back the emotion so we can speak. Which is POWERFUL to watch. He’s doing the opposite and it’s awkward as hell.
I agree in regards to the inconsistency of wiping his eyes & nose. Imo he’s being deceptive.
So is he trying to say that while he was supposedly sleeping on the couch, some stranger broke into his house where he was sleeping. Went into that huge gun room somehow found the bullets to match each gun and took them out of the house. Shot his family and he slept through it all. That's b*******
Bingo! The ammo used on Paul and Maggie was the same ammo retrieved from the property used for target practice. A desperate Alex saw an opportunity to solve his problems and took it. A 20 year addiction is hard to give up( family already putting pressure on him to stop) and it does change the hard wiring of a person’s brain. I have seen it before. He is Guilty but as a malevolent narcissist, they deserved it.
You forgot the part where they’re psychic because it’s not like Paul and Maggie lived there. How did an intruder know to come to moselle that night within an hour of them showing up? The one night that Alec summoned them to come? The whole story is BS. Also, let’s go to a HUNTING property where there are trained hunters and a ton of guns and hope to find a gun unattended and use it as the murder weapon? Lmfao yeah ok 👍🏼
He knows this is the last chance to try an convince the jury he's innocent... He knows how to play the jury..
Yep! Being a lawyer he does know how to work the juries! He has done many cases enough to work over a jury and now he gets to shine(he thinks) in his own trial!! Makes me sick to my stomach!
Yes! His ex best friend Chris Wilson said when Alex would do closing arguments on cases to the jury he would cry. It’s all an act he has perfected. Sure hope the jury isn’t conned by him.
He definitely tried to get his Mom's caretaker to say that he was at the house longer than he was. He then tried to offer her money for her son's wedding and also offered to get her a promotion at her other job.
And…he said he didn’t know where he left the blue and white dress shirt. I think if it was me, I would have had my entire family looking for it as that one piece of evidence could have proved his innocence!! But it was obvious he had disposed of it along with the weapons!
It seems off to me.
Then he called her a liar
Actually Mushelly was the 1 who was going to get remarried!! Her kids were young! Her daughter was the only 1 old enough to work outside of the house!! I am GLAD Mushelly called her brother because HE was also LE but different county!! Family hat and LE hat of him would've advised her!! I wonder if he talked to his boss, so that if anything happened to his sister or himself. To look at Alex Murdaugh!!
@@jillgantz2195 exactly! He had enough time b4 calling his Mom's house phone to be let in, he put evidence in 1 of those buildings!! Look at the map of Almeda they do on that timeline! He parks near those buildings. It does NOT show him(in steps) walking around inside the house but it shows 58 as soon as he pulls up!
He’s a liar and won’t admit to anything unless he’s caught red handed. We would have to see a video of him actually doing it before he’d admit to it.
So he cannot be charged without evidence
@Redfoot just jail him for proven lies for a start, theft, time to gather proof for murder later
totally even then he would say it wasnt him
Eh... Most liars won't even admit things when caught red-handed. I know basically nothing about this case. What I do know: this "body language expert" is a fucking fraud
Oh for sure. The guy couldn’t even admit they were broke. His ego is too fragile.
I love Dr. Lillian Glass. So insightful! Alex saying "I wouldn't hurt Maggie and Paul INTENTIONALLY" stuck with me too. I wondered if he'd shot Paul the first time by accident, then thought all hell would break loose since he already had financial crimes, boat trial, etc. so he finished the job. Buuuut.....everything was so premeditated from the blue raincoat, clean clothes at the ready, luring Maggie and Paul both there that night, going to his mother's that time of night when he usually did not, asking Shelley and the other caregiver to lie/remember things differently, lying to police and SLED, etc., etc.
Alex called all his lawyer buddies before calling Buster - as if to halt the fraud against him and boat case took precedence over Buster's safety?! 🚩🚩🚩 Alex wasn't concerned about his own safety, the safety of everyone he called to come to Moselle, nor Busters.
Alex expects us to believe that Ninjas crept onto the property without their own weapons, knew Maggie and Paul would be there that night in that short window of time. It would be comedic if it weren't so tragic.
He's is guilty !!! I don't believe this down home good ole southern gentleman act.
He used the word "intentionally" to deflect blame. 1st degree murder requires intention. The denial is his inability to accept the truth.
Exactly
@@stevehartwell1861 yep
He also said he would definitely hurt himself or kill himself..,BEFORE he would EVER hurt "Mags" or :Paw Paw"....
To be as objective as possible here: I've had a problem with 'body language experts' all my life. The thing is, it's been proven by neurologists, psychologists, and psychiatrists (real scientists, not charlatans) that the claim that every person in the world reacts to the same things in the same way, with the same gestures, is simply not true. There is no such thing as completely universal gestures.
And there is no such thing as being able to fully and correctly judge what a person is thinking or whether their reactions are 'real', based on body language. In fact, there are many cases where some people behave completely differently from the 'expected' human behavior in a given situation, and this doesn't mean that they are lying or hiding something. There have been many cases that have ended in tragedy because of 'interpretations' like this. Because it is ultimately just an interpretation, and it is still mostly people who judge strangers through a TV/laptop screen. Sorry but body language experts are mostly complete nonsense. Research it if you don't believe me.
Thank you. Body language "science" has been shown to be mostly junk science. There's a very good reason that the observations of a body language "expert" are not admissible as evidence in a court of law.
So far, the purported "fact-driven, unbiased reporting" claimed by NewsNation during it's short existence has proven to be nothing but sensationalized pandering to a rabid, confirmation-bias-driven audience. Fact-driven reporting reports FACTS, not opinions presented as facts.
I believe the man is guilty, but because of the mountain of evidence against him, not because of this or that movement he has repeatedly made every minute of the trial, whether he's speaking or not.
I didn't shoot my son or wife any time, ever ?!! odd thing to say. Points off for overacting.
His head has been nodding all through the trial. Especially at hard times.
yeah it's something he does, he even has done it outside of the trial. it's a nervous tick. i don't think her analysis is accurate, considering the details
this is why our justice system is so broken, ppl react differently under stress, a juror has a "hunch" due to body language is beyond a reasonable doubt?
100%. I wonder how many lives this quack has ruined
Many people nod and rock during stressful experiences. While I think he's very likely guilty, nodding and rocking in itself means nothing in the context of his guilt or innocence. Body language "science" is nonsense.
He's a lawyer putting on a play for the jurors for sure. Whether he did it or not he knows how to act in court
When Alex said "I overreacted" when he grabbed a gun, it's a leaked confession. He's admitting to the murders and how it happened. That's my interpretation.
Great point!!
He grabbed a gun in fear of the individual or individuals being still being on the property
He grabbed a gun in fear of the individual or individuals being still being on the property
@@jerrywayne3467 Yet called his surviving son and other family to come to the property, was walking around in the open on the property when police arrived, and never warned anyone to be careful of the “killer on the loose”. Never begged cops to go searching immediately for the murderer. Not the behavior most would have if terrified. I would have told everyone I care about except the cops to stay far away, lest someone else get murdered.
I agree. Wondered if anyone else noticed that!
Yup the snot show was all just a show!
That happens when u take pills and the person don't realize it
He has a lot of facial and body ticks. Helps him think of what to say next. He is evil.
And so is Maggie and Paul. This whole family enjoyed murdering innocent animals well they got murdered the same way. Karma’s a bitch
Yes, and Alex often repeats the question to give himself time to think of the answer. To me, he gives off con artist vibes.
I respectfully disagree with your body language expert in regard to AM's head & body motions in this clip. Many years ago I was also addicted to oxycontin. I was prescribed 80mg X 12 pills per day. That's 960mg of "synthetic heroin" every day for over 5 years. For me, the "skin crawling" was the worst w/d symptom. I think AM gave a really good description to the physical w/d symptoms, but coupled with the mental symptoms, it takes the description of "feeling like you have the flu" to a whole new level. After I'd been clean for several months, I mentioned to my doctor that after all this time, when I laid down to go to sleep each night, the bottom half of my legs & feet were still feeling like my skin was crawling. In response, I would kick my feet & rub my legs & even give up on trying to sleep at all, because of it. My doctor told me that it was perfectly normal to continue to have this "ghost w/d" symptom. That it was my body's way of trying to trick me into using again. He told me it could continue for the rest of my life. That was 12 years ago. That creepy crawly feeling isn't as frequent as it was early on, but it does surface unexpectedly, on a regular basis. As a result of trying to comfort myself through the "ghost w/d" symptom I would rock my body. These physical movements are involuntary, and are a direct lasting result from my years long addiction to oxycontin. I don't know if AM is guilty of killing his wife & son, but I feel that the body language expert should have taken much more in to consideration before coming to her conclusion. Thank you.
THANK YOU! I caught ALL you said. I saw the nod and also wondered why the prosecution didn’t come back with a question on the “intentionally”. He’s as guilty as sin.
people remember trauma quite specifically. I'm a therapist, substance abuse therapist as well. people are blinded by their feelings with this case. he's telling the truth. and admitting to a life sentence worth of other crimes in the process. this is his final and only chance for catharsis after lying for 20 years. body language experts are mostly full of it anyway, and that's why their testimony still isn't allowed in court. get a therapist or psychologist on this show who specializes in trauma and working with the antisocial.
He’s been nodding the ENTIRE trial! You have to look at someone’s baseline body language 1st
Yes it’s very deceptive. Kinda like when a politician delivers bad news with a smile on their face. It’s lovely to believe everyone is good, but the truth is there are a lot of sick messed up people in the world. Most of us try to justify other’s behaviour as good or bad based on how we would have behaved in a situation, but let’s be honest, regardless of who killed his wife and son, this guy is an evil psychopath that duped innocent people out of their money and made their lives a living hell. Someone like this can not be believed in any setting.
He also shakes his head no sometimes…so it is interesting to see when he knows yes (while saying no) vs when he shakes his head no (while saying no).
He has a habit of nodding etc - doesn’t mean anything , other than it’s his habit
Much ado about nothing
Exactly he's been doing it. Body language experts are no different than tarot card readers let's be honest.
This is a professional lying lawyer.
He has been shown to lie and commit fraud . They’ve no evidence whatsoever he actually committed murder . This is a murder trial and prosecution thinks it’s a financial trial
He rocks and moves his head in a nodding motion whenever he is distressed. Maybe establishing it as a baseline or he is distressed. He may find the graphic details and humanising of his wife and son as people not faceless victims too much. I think he did it.
Bugs me when these body language experts ignore the bigger picture. This is something he does whenever he's upset. It's like a self soothing thing for him.
What a mockery, put this dark soul in a cold lonely prison cell
This lady is an amateur, hes nodding because hes sure of his answer! there is no such thing as "normal" behavior, every brain is different and complex. he's nervous as anyone would!
He’s the only one who knows how bad his drug habit was and I’m sure he’s lying about the extent of it.
He for sure is no way your living out a 20 year opiate addiction taking 60-90 Roxy 30s a day not happening and you damn sure ain’t gonna be a functional lawyer
No I did not as I nod my head yes. Another gaffe “when Maggie told me to leave, I mean asked me to go to the kennels with her.”
Good point...she didn't want him around.
The head nods is baseline soothing. Everytime he thinks of how Paul looked when discovered he soothes himself by nodding. He is coping with the stress.
I agree!!
I agree!
He's not nodding. He shakes/taps his leg and head. Its a nervous tick or self soothing technique. Pretty common in addicts.
100%
yes, that intentional comment about killing his wife and son was VERY disturbing to me as well... And the nodding when he denies things.......
He nods ( it is more like a tremor) on a regular basis. We have seen this since the beginning of the trial, it is not something new. He doesn't only do it when he denies things
I find Buster’s body language interesting.
So did I and the side eye look he gave a couple times.
yes he did do a few odd things yesterday that I noticed
Yea he’s odd
He is a very unattractive wranga
His body language is so telling that he is guilty!!! He hasn’t really said I didn’t shoot them , or killed them with conviction but just through the motions and instructions of his lawyer 😊
Nodding is his baseline.
I, too, am good at body language and I disagree with this lady's reading.
Drugs has been the evil of many crimes. It's so bad that our younger generation has kill their own parents for the need of it, and as far as I know nothing serious is really being done to eliminate the traffic of it. How can people of power do anything when so many are Drug users themselves. IT HAS BECOME A VERY SHOCKING WORLD IN MORE WAYS THEN I CARE TO KNOW ABOUT. PRETTY DISGUSTING 🤢
21st century has 20th century beat
I’m a recovering addict and let’s please not blame the drugs. Especially not OPIOIDS. Meth and similar drugs may make someone commit murder but opioids do not. The person is so physically ill that they can barely function when they don’t have it, and so euphoric and happy and mellow when they do. Every drug is different. You can’t chalk this up to drugs. The truth of it is that he’s a terrible human being and the worst kind of narcissist. He does everything to further his own agenda. He killed his family because of MONEY, not drugs. There’s zero evidence he even had a serious habit let alone was THAT desperate. I assure you, if he was heavily addicted, everyone close to him would know including his partners and clients. You can’t miss it. He killed them because Maggie was going ti divorce him and take a ton of assets, and because Paul was costing him money and reputation. Welcome to people doing bad things JUST because they’re bad people.
Ps I never hurt a fly during my addiction. Drugs don’t equal murder. Bad character and drugs might, but not drugs alone unless they cause a psychotic break. Which opioids do not.
Looking forward to The Behaviour Panels analysis of this. I doubt they would even offer to comment on such a short clip alone with no insight to the baseline.
Nodding, mouth grooming, rocking etc has been visible from the start. Id be more concerned about how fast he starts and stops crying. Its like a switch...
If the jury duty is data analyst people he will convicted less than five minutes. The verdict will come out guilty because of the data, the one extract from his phone that has a UNIX timestamp system. That’s a Blockchain create the time atomic clock, according to this time he’s guilty
God I pray you are right!!!
Finally some tears. For himself. He's a killer.
Exactly! There were no tears immediately after the murders when he was answering questions before he knew he was a suspect.
He only cries for himself now that he's being called to account for WHAT HE DID!!
I clicked on this expecting to hear he was believable lol I was going to loose it 😅 thank you for seeing what I've been seeing too.
@melissaquayle5615 Yes and you know one at least has had drug experience or has a close loved one who has. That is what he is using. Notice it's always referred to as a "battle" for him. The battle was one he didn't fight he just lied and kept using. He is full of BS. Manipulative by nature and by being an addict. He was sure he could convince the jury he was innocent. No way anyone else killed them. He had no heart when Mallory died ....he just protected his interest. He never comforted her mom and dad. He is capable in other words he has done it before thru his son.
But he NODS ALLLLLL THE TIME!!!!
your body language expert doesn't know the first thing about body language. He's not subconsciously nodding "yes", he's consciously pretending to be subconsciously rocking back and forth, deliberately displaying a well-known self-soothing, calming, motion (like rocking a baby). He does this calculatedly, to fake what he thinks is a display of distress whenever their dead bodies are mentioned; he's done this throughout the trial.
If you go to hour 3:29 of the trial yesterday, he literally blew snot of out his nose on purpose and let it drip right onto his pants. It was so obvious that he did it so the jurors would see.
People who are saying he is innocent need to remember that he’s a lawyer and I imagine he has told many of his clients to get up on the stand and make sure you’re emotional, because it will help with the jurors.
Funny watching all these real emotions now when all we seen after the murders were fake crying and constant dry sniffling lol.
Smh man that was so pitiful. I’m sick of him
I think he had a hot pepper 🌶 seed hidden somewhere for that performance, it only happened once
He nods when he's trying to stop himself from crying and he does it every time......
I’m sorry no, that is a terrible body language expert. I watch a lot of body language experts and I caught the nodding, but one thing all of them say consistently is you still have to have a base line of movement from the individual to analyze them properly and if you watch everything else he has done he nods all the time. He has a natural tick that this body language “expert” is not paying attention to. I’ve only seen her a few times but now I wouldn’t trust a word she says.
Sorry, but you need to stop fining these quack MDs in a quack science, it really begins to discredit your channel.
Didn't shoot them "anytime" ? That was just strange to me
This is junk science this guy is just emotional he wasn't shaking his head he was moving that way the whole trial
The nodding is one thing, what freaked me out the most was how fast he switched vibes from "oh I'm so sad and I am so innocent" to "what did you just say to me?'"
I would like to see you do better on the stand for the murder of your own family.
He nods all the time. Body language is garbage science. Click bait nothing burger cash grab ad revenue.
He has a head Bob so I don’t think that applies
For sure, he’s nodding his head while saying he didn’t do it
He nods his head all the time. The "expert" didn't bother to establish a baseline.
I don’t know what he did however I do the same thing as I’m thinking of what is being asked of me. It doesn’t make me guilty I’m usually nodding to the question asked.
That's what guilty people say....
Lol jk
Having stolen or lied does not make him guilty of the murders. This family is a victim of revenge, maybe for something in the past, Alex did not murder his wife and son.
@@nellym.6555 everyone is entitled to their opinion and I believe he did after everything I have heard so far.
Exactly. body language reading has been debunked for not always telling if someone is truly lying. That's why it's never used in serious cases like in trials. It's just an opinion from someone who's overconfident making that said opinion.
Right -- I nod my head to indicate that I understand the question, or that I know the answer to the question. It doesn't mean I'm lying about the answer.
Body language "experts" are generally charlatans.
Well I must lie all the time cuz I have cotton mouth all the time at work
Me too. I'm a diabetic and thirsty ALL the time cause my sugar is high. Doesn't mean I'm lying, means I have a medical condition. IF this guy was on drugs for 20 years, the nodding may be his baseline, etc. Thank you!
Thank goodness!! I’ve been waiting for a body language analysis! The behavior panel needs to get on it!
They have already done one
Pseudoscientists
They have already
But they need to do one of him on the stand.
There is something she is missing as a person not from the South. Slightly misread. His lip movement refers to how people in the South use Tabak in their mouths. Snuff. This is very important to recognize. Waters even stated that Mr. Owen gave him water and tabak (snuff). Most of the US will never know these Southern patterns, traditions and body language. Just because some are detail-oriented and others are not says very little. Also in the South telling long stories is a type of norm. Being in the South in the country... That is a very special setting. It is also inaccurate to state that decade-long drug use can and will not change a person's behavior and movements. There are many studies on this. Those who detox, fall back on drugs and even commit suicide because they need the drug so intensely, the urge returns without support. It's a huge struggle according to studies and reports.
Your comments are Right-On. People from outside the South don't know and don't care to know. Thank you.
Can we stop with body language "experts"? It's been proven that it is pseudoscience. We are better off with having lawyers give their perspective instead. Next, you'll bring in tarot card readers. Smh.
If I could "like" this comment a hundred times, I would. FACT-DRIVEN, NewsNation! These are NOT "facts!"
I agree. This tarot card reader says "NO, Alec didn't kill them. He absolutely did not kill them. There were 2 shooters and 1 may have been a female" (due to the short stature of the second person). SLED and other cops on the scene destroyed it, jumped to wrong conclusion as cops so often do. Scene was not preserved, not measured correctly, not well photographed and therefore, wrong conclusion reached. Cops didn't bother to look for real killers, 2 of them - 1 of whom may have been a female. Thank you.
He has done that with his head all the way through this trial so far, It is like he is a Mr. Bobble Head lol
Why didn’t they search the property with helicopters
Yes you did Alex
Who wouldn't be uncomfortable in this situation? If you have watched the whole trial you will see that he nods like this quite often and this is something I see frequently in people who are in recovery from opioid addiction - it is like a tick or a tremor. You also speak about him having "cottonmouth" - it is entirely possible that he could be on a medication like methadone or Suboxone to help keep him away from the pills he was addicted to and their euphoric effect. All of these kinds of medications including antidepressants and sleeping pills give you a very dry mouth, and I'm sure after everything he has been through he would be on some of these prescription medications to try and keep himself balanced. As for the "rocking" behaviour that she discusses, this is something that I (and many others) do subconsciously on a fairly regular basis and to me it is a coping mechanism that helps me feel comforted when I am thinking or discussing topics or issues that are traumatic/ difficult for me to talk about. I'm not saying he's innocent but I don't like these one-sided assessments when the "expert" fails to acknowledge other perfectly reasonable explanations for the behaviour they are criticizing. Why doesn't she discuss any other possible explanations? The same with the comment about mucus coming from his nose. You see him reach into multiple pockets on his suit jacket on several occasions to get Kleenex, but only has the one small tissue that he holds crumpled up in his hand.
Sane and intelligent conclusions from a knowledgeable source.
He's in a county jail in South Carolina at the time he's not getting ANY narcotic in their Maybe anti depressants but not Suboxone or Methadone. NEVER. And Seroquel would be the only "sleeping" pill that would cause this
Those are trauma tremors
Seven days in treatment did NOT CURE THAT DRUG ADDICTION!
That (seven days) was the “detox” period. The rehab/treatment came after, at a different facility.
He's shaking his head up and down as if gesturing "yes I did" but his words are no never killed them.
Never "intentionally" as opposed to "negligently" hurting them while under the influence of a substance such as alcohol or drugs. GUILTY!
i am sorry this woman is silly - if u were watching the WHOLE trial this is HIS BASELINE behavior LOL - hes been rocking and knodding his head since DAY 1 of the trial when it comes to anything truamatic
Silly is a good word for her.
That's exactly what I commented on the Livestream.His body language was all over the place.When he was talking about the murders it really seem to me he was staring in a script for a tv drama show and he failed at reading the script.
This man has been nodding and rocking this whole trial
He's reliving the murders he is a well to do person that never wanted for anything so he's going to have a hard time in prison he's guilty as sin justice for Maggie and Paul
If you're on pills for a long time especially years, your body will indeed will or could have involuntary movements when you stop taking them for maybe rest of your life.
Kinda like Parkinson’s
NON BIAS prosecution parroting: He did quite a good job.. apparently 1 or 2 jurors were crying. That however I don't like at all, but then again they haven't been exposed to the extreme amount of prosecution parroting that is going on online and tv, so hearing Alex was probably quite shocking for them especially considering how well he battled here and how good his acting is if this is indeed and act.......
85% of the population would have got folded up like a pretzel during even their own defenses examination of this. Obviously he is a lawyer, and it's fascinating to see him kind of hit each pitch so to speak. Not saying they're all good hits or home runs but it is like he's able to put bat on ball in every exchange.
I honestly think the biggest thing they got him on today was never calling Paul Paw Paw before.
My mind is really still not made up on this case. Listen people with the AMOUNT OF MONEY HE WAS STEALING, ok that's absolutely been fleshed out in court to be around 8 million right? So we know he has 8 million in bad blood from stealing money. Then we know he's dealing with tons of drugs. Then we know of two other things we have to throw in the boat accident and the gay teen. Then lastly we have to calculate the general hate they may have towards them for running the entire town for so long, putting people behind bars, Alex pretending to be LE and just how they generally may have been rich assholes to some people......
That's a lot of reasons out there for someone to want to off one or more of the Murdaughs. I mean seriously. The prosecution is in danger. The lack of physical evidence at the scene is insane. SLED really messed this up. As someone trying to be objective about this being a murder case not a financial case, Paw Paw thing is the first thing I've seen in a while that is fairly suspicious for me. In fact it is quite suspicious.
If I'm a juror I still have a reasonable doubt and I'm begging the prosecution to come with it. I don't want to say this guy is not guilty because I lean towards he is but I still have reasonable doubt.
With the two different guns..not being found, and everything we've seen so far my most rational mind honestly thinks it was two shooters. I keep thinking it'd be difficult for one person to do this without one of the victims getting away??? It literally seems like they were both ambushed simultaneously, because prosecution hasn't actually put this MURDER scene together at all for us. They need diagrams and descriptions of how it happened and make it make sense with evidence but....they can't do that now right. If I think it's two shooters I'm really not sure if they were hired by Alex considering he apparently had people on speed dial that would shoot him or anyone he asked or it was really a revenge thing from the plethora of vendettas against him....
I think there were two shooters, Alec and Buster. I think they did this together.
If it wasn’t Alex… why would a Murderer come with no weapons on the off chance they’d find some there? If it was minutes after Alex left the kennels… why didn’t they shoot Alex as well? Something just doesn’t make sense!
He mentioned riding a golf cart, which would explain the trajectory of the bullets from the first weapon. I would also want to make sure Buster's girlfriend isn't lying to protect him since he is also suspected of murdering his friend Steven.
@@cathyallen3967 but what are the odds of successfully being able to shoot and kill both a young kid (I realize he had foot problems so.....maybe he wasn't super mobile...but he got down in the kennel etc I'm sure he was able to run) and a woman who can at least move as well from a golf cart?? Riding up in a golf cart with these two weapons and killing both with different weapons without either getting away? Didn't Paul essentially get a shotgun shot from up under his chin too? I realize AM could be a good marksman....but this seems like a 1 in a 100 chance you pull that off killing two mobile people with two different weapons firing from a golf cart....
I don't know. I realize also that using two different guns could have been part of his plan to confuse........I'm just struggling with this because the prosecution needs to put together a better picture of how they think it happened. I heard them mention "family annihilator" today, I thought that was good. Ala Chris Watts!!!! Is AM a family annihilator? That's a very interesting thought to me and kind of helps you comprehend why AM would possibly do this simply due to crushing financial pressure which to us seems completely unrelated but a family annihilator is different obviously
His son. rubs his face a lot when nervous too. Like dad
I'd say he's getting drugs in jail..
Thank You for sharing that, and yes, his behavior, emotions don’t look genuine to me .
Let’s hope the prosecution stops running around the financial crimes & get to the grit & expose who Alex really is. They have more than enough out there imo to take this guy down, but will they do it 🤔 so far I have seen a lot of missed opportunities.
His actions in the boat accident & blatant abuse of power over LE etc need to be driven home now.
Why would you believe corrupt SLED Cops and this prosecutor who admitted on the stand they lied (softer word mislead, gave false information ) 2 times to the Grandjury? They gave knowingly false information to the grand jury so they could arrest Alex. Why would you trust them?
They admitted they knew the Tshirt had only animal blood. But let it leak to the Press and told the grand jury Alex had Splattered HUMAN blood on it when they knew it was Animal.
SLED /COPS lied about the shot gun cartridge arrangement, knowing it was false information to the Grand Jury too.
SLED/COPS/ and this prosecutor found UNKNOWN MALE DNA under Maggies fingernails and have refused to enter it into a National DATA base . Why on earth would you trust them?
I think they should be fired. This is not special treatment. Alex feared the corruption of SLED and COPS. He talked when he should not have and never asked for any favors.
Yes he is a PIG and should be in jail for stealing from his clients. This is not just a Alex problem. I am fighting corrupt lawyers and judges in Alabama right now doing it to my disabled brother. Huge FBI investigation of corrupt lawyers doing this to the elderly, disabled and poor. Its wide spread and I hope people use this to expose corrupt lawyers. A Judge and lawyer in Alabama were found guilty of doing this to elderly clients , stealing money and land.
Maybe Alex to redeme himself will start working for the FBI to help them catch corrupt lawyers.
I am fighting them now in Alabama for what they did to my disabled brother when my mom left money in a trust for him and me.
The big story is the COPs lied again , as they have done to get the conviction they want. And ADMITTED to it on the stand 🥴🤪😡😡😡😡
What do those have to do with the murders? If the prosecution hasn’t already gotten to the grit and exposed who Alex really is, given they’ve already rested their case, I’d say that’s a major problem in a murder trial where the state has the burden of proof. AM has no burden.
We don't need an authority to rubber stamp human gestures- the fact that he took the stand is the best thing that happened so far. He's coming off as being very credible. The revenge against Paul motive makes sense- the financial motive doesn't. It's clear that he cared about his wife and son.
Normally I'd agree except he's been nodding the whole time.
That's why this is pseudoscience
Here's the sad fact. The people who pulled the trigger are getting away with it. They never followed leads into Paul's numerous threats. There were definitely 2 shooters. The trajectory does not match his height. And the word "intentionally" is being over analysed. We all have used this conjecture. Everything is easy "after the fact". No one here has witnessed this type of horror first hand. They pegged Alex that very night. Never searched elsewhere. Shoddy investigation.
They found blood spatter on his shirt, so they basically already proved he was there at the crime scene at the time it happened. They tracked his footsteps and movements around the house/ in the area. He has never described what the people may have looked or been dressed like. None of what’s he’s saying adds up.
The nodding is a nervous tick. He has done it since day one. Even when he’s not speaking, when no one is speaking he nods and even rocks back and forth. It seems to be self soothing.
I’m surprised this “professional” would be willing to make such a blanket statement based on a single excerpt. It’s irresponsible to say such a thing without observing him over a long period of time in different settings. Body language isn’t one size fits all.
If he’d gone into too little detail people would pick it apart. Too much or too little detail, no matter what I think people would find a way to find a problem with it.
This case makes me think our society needs to figure out a way to get past having attorneys, enough is enough!!!
A 5 Star comment. Yes I am all for it !
Umm no it’s your fundamental right. A right to have a attorney and if you can’t afford one one will be provided for you.
@@leahrivlin3223 🤨
I bet if you ever find yourself in a situation where you are on trial, whether you are guilty or innocent, I bet you’d want an attorney. Otherwise, we’d have a bunch of Darrell Brooks’ on our hands.
@Kara Hall I have paid attorneys and been represented by public defenders.
Those experiences are a big reason why I can joke about hating lawyers so much.
WONDER WHAT HE PUT ON HIS NOSTRILS TO MAKE HIS NOSE RU N LIKE THAT ,YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE HIM CONSTANTLY TOUCHING HIS NOSE AND EYES ,HE KILLED BOTH OF THEM
Probably hot pepper seeds
It’s a habit. He nods all the time.
Did he ever take a lie detector test?
What do a lie detector and body language expert have in common?
They’re both junk science that has no admissibility in court.
The body language expert is missing something. Did she look at his baseline?
Clearly not.
Internally ? The brain processes are very complex. If you are addicted to drugs and overuse...prolonged..it causes long term affects aaaand effects the neurological system and body systems. And a normal reposonse to grief? Have you lost as spouse or child!? I lost a spouse and let me clarify I cried to point of snot pouring, puking and there is not a pinpoint on grief. Everyone responds differently. And this is fact based both by experience as well as, medical knowledge...I'm not saying he's not guilty...I'm saying you're facts are very inconsistent...you can obtain all certificates and degrees you want but truth and facts are this...body response is different under different circumstances and drug abuse causes long term effects. Period. I've witnessed family members in such shape
Picking up his dead son by his belt loop is weird.
Evey person would try to turn over a body by pulling on a person's shoulder not a waist belt.
But maybe not if their head had exploded like a watermelon! (His lawyers words, not mine.)
@@sedona816 I understand what your saying but every person would still use the shoulder. And if he saw his sons head destroyed, why after a long period of time waiting for the police arrive dud he still ask several times if they were dead.
It's all an act. If it were me I would have been on the ground cradle cradling either my son or wife.
I talked with him and his lawyer and let me tell you, the drugs are to blame......
You can't trust these standard body language analysis ticks when it comes to master manipulators & narcissists. It was literally AM's CAREER to perform in court & get sympathy from juries.
Alex may be a lawyer BUT he really hadn't worked as a REAL lawyer which explains all the mistakes he made.
The nodding showing guilt isn't always showing guilt. But the rest of his body language is guilty.
Oh yes he did! All kinds of crap were about to fall onto AM’s head.
I can’t believe he got up to testify. Huge mistake
He uses “I believe” too much. “I believe that is correct”, “I believe that isn’t what happened”, “I believe he wasn’t here”….
I believe in aliens. Doesn’t make it true or correct.
He never should had taken the stand period