You sure can’t catch up on “the facts” on this show!!!! Julie Grant made some disingenuous statements which might lead the audience to the wrong conclusions. Julie stated that “no dog DNA was found on John’s body”……..not exactly…..unfortunately John’s arm wounds were not themselves tested for DNA. The shirt which has punctures which correspond to the arm wounds, was allegedly swabbed in a spot that showed PIG DNA. Well, pig is a common thing for various dog treats ie rawhides and pig ears. Also the clothing had no valid chain of custody and spent an inexplicable amount of time in one disgraced detective’s car. Julie is so completely biased in favor of the prosecution that I won’t be watching any more of her shows. I can only hope that the audience looks elsewhere for more complete information about this case
DOG BITE OR TAILLIGHT? 1. The Commonwealth’s theory is that John’s arm was hit by Karen’s polycarbonate plastic taillight at 24 mph causing it to virtually explode resulting in the cuts to Johns right arm, also spreading across the Alberts lawn leaving a wide debris field of more than 47 pieces and shards of many shapes and sizes. 2. There are nine holes on the right arm of John’s sweatshirt, but there are 20 plus wounds on Johns right arm more than twice the number of wounds compared to the holes in the sweatshirt, that doesn’t happen with shards of exploding glass or plastic, you get one hole, one wound, matching like a bullet hole. 3. The nine holes on the right arm of John’s sweatshirt are all round/ oval, and about the thickness of a pencil 6 to 8mm in diameter. What are the chances that all these pieces of taillight of various shapes and sizes made these 9 almost identical size holes in the right sleeve of Johns sweatshirt? 4. If the wounds were from a broken taillight shard, there would be a square/rectangular hole in the sweatshirt and a square/rectangular wound on John’s arm matching the hole in the sweatshirt and the shard would most likely be still lodged in his arm just like any sharp projectile hitting your body, say shattering glass or a bullet. 5. The polycarbonate plastic in this case is about one eight of an inch in thickness about 3mm, shards from this taillight will not produce round holes, no matter if they are large or small, they will always produce rectangular shaped holes. Judging by the scale next to the largest hole in the sleeve of the sweatshirt it is no more than 10 mm in diameter. Logic will tell you that a shard no bigger than 10mm x 3mm would have passed through the sweatshirt. Most all the wounds are substantially larger than the holes in the sweatshirt. 6. All the holes show pulled fibres around the edges which tells us whatever made the holes was also removed from the holes, like a stab wound, or a dog bite. If Johns wounds had been caused by shards of taillight, we would expect to find at least some splinters or fragments of plastic in the wounds. 7. A dogs canine tooth is cone shaped and it will produce round or slightly oval holes depending how deep it penetrates; this is what we see in John’s sweatshirt, and it’s also what we see on his arm, small and large puncture wounds some distorted and some elongated due to the dog attack and John pulling away defending himself. 8. On his arm we see round puncture holes, and at least four of the bites we see parallel tear-drop shaped lacerations, caused by the two front canines pulling through the skin in the same direction. 9. When you compare the damage to the sweatshirt, to John's arm it proves that it was from canine teeth not shards of taillight. Small holes on the sweatshirt opposed to the long linear wounds on the arm. The reason that the damage to the sweatshirt does not match the amount of wounds on John’s arm, is because the dogs canines were already lodged in John’s loose sleeve as it tried to bite again and again.
10. If the wounds on John’s right arm were caused from broken taillight, then the sleeve of John’s sweatshirt would match perfectly with those wounds which they do not. You can’t fit a square peg into a round hole, everyone knows that.
Why do you never address the fact that the FBI hired independent experts who found it was NOT possible OJO was murdered by a car, furthermore they contacted Norfolk County and said they didn’t agree with moving forward in this case. Shame on you.
This conversion on the 2:27 am is based solely on the Prosecution position. What about showing both sides. There were 2 other experts who also confirmed the 2:27 am time.
@@liztesta9088 yes . Spot on. It seems though that defending yourself or having anything in your favour to prove the facts that you are innocent, are not what the prosecution wants. They have an agenda to send Karen to prison. They’ll never accept that she did not back into John even if there was full view, clear and comprehensive footage to prove she did not do it. But that’s just it, didn’t they say they had ringcam evidence she DID do it. So where’s that then? It doesn’t exist. Never did. What did exist was evidence to the contrary, and that’s why there is now no footage at all. Deleted along with everything else that proved her innocence. Video footage featured highly in this case…. Inverted video for one, missing library ‘moments’ just the bit that would prove Karen went back past . How ironic and coincidental is that???? The prosecution has no shame, all this in the name of law . I’d hazard to say that not many INVESTIGATIONS AND COURT CASES are run so LAWLESSLY. It’s way beyond time that the headline named woman in this case are free to get on with their lives. Karen the first to be not held accountable for any crime whatsoever, then reimbursed for all monetary costs ( she’ll never get three years back that’s for sure) And secondly BEV…. She needs to be released from any more days sitting in judge of anyone ever again… she needs to go to the back corner of some dried up old paddock and live out the rest of her days foraging for whatever scraps she can find…. And while chewing on her cud, think about all the unprofessional , bias, and downright snarky attitude she bought to this trial . And there may she rest. I hope Karen is soon free, finds happiness, and solace in the fact that she has been vindicated and the foolish keystone cops are just a bad comedy deleted from ever featuring ever again. Ahhhh, what a lovely thought. Here’s hoping🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
If Jen didn’t text “hos long to die in cold” and discovered John’s dead body on her Sisters lawn, tell me WHY did she feel no urgency to check on her Sister and family? Why isn’t the dog barking? Why isn’t she asking “Where is my Brother in law the Cop with all of these lights and sirens and a screaming woman (Karen)? Because she already knew what happened!
All of Jen McCabes party deleted texts messages, made multiple phone calls to each other, then threw their phones away, Karen never deleted a single text, handed her phone over without a warrant because she had nothing to hide. That says it all to me and anyone with common sense. Plus FBI paid two crash experts $500K to try recreate a car accident, it's impossible, John O'Keefe was never hit by a car. They testified to this in the trial.
That's an interesting analysis, all right, But I have often wondered If we will ever know the truth about what really happened in this case. I think the only person who knows the real truth is John O'Keefe.😢
Michael Proctor has not been terminated (only suspended). His hearing is the 15th. If he is not terminated, I will have no faith in ever learning what happened. The FBI has not made the investigation of the investigation official yet. If and when they DO, I will be confident in a perp round up, however long it takes, so we will find out what happened. At this time, the cover up is working so nobody is spilling. 🎶When the Levee Breaks 🎶
@ I watched the TRIAL gavel to gavel. We know exactly what happened from the first responder and on. ETA my comment is about the TEXT message and it begs the question (that I asked). We can actually SEE Jen on dash cam footage and the trial interviewed every single person. Jen never tried to run up to the house. That’s not normal. Her whole family could have been massacred for all she knows! Oh, but, she does KNOW.
The dog/some kind of animal bites/scratch marks are not ''conspiracy theory''. They're common sense. In addition to the factual testimony of actual true expert Dr. Rentschler who explained using his knowledge in physics as to how John was not struck by a vehicle. (Which common sense also clearly demonstrates.)
@@kc-wk1kzit doesn’t have to be a “conspiracy theory.” It could be a rush to judgement and planting tail light pieces to close the case. *Some* of the individuals at the house the night before know what happened but it doesn’t require all of them to know.
She is more of an expert than anyone they have for the prosecution. Not sure how you would find anyone better. So will be hard to dismiss not sure why they are even trying. Means they are desperate, the jury should be aware of this feeble attempt dismiss an expert.
Julie do the research Ian is no longer employed with Cellebrite since 2022 or 2023. So when he was testifying he wasnt employed with Cellebrite. Rich Green didnt say any of that. FBI and Vanity Fair also sided with the defense. Birdbrain Julie
The Mass judicial system will do anything & everything to convict Karen Read because they know how horrible the investigation & the entire case was handled & they want to save face!! I think the entire LE agencies & the courts in that area of Mass needs to be thoroughly investigated by federal authorities!! I honestly believe she did not hit JO & IF she did it was a horrible accident.
Did you know that Federal authorities DID investigate and in fact hired their own Crash Specialists who testified? Not only did they do a cursory investigation, they also recommended that the Commonwealth do NOT try the case. Also, there is an open “investigation” of the investigation. I think they would have moved forward but the trial is only going to help convict if witnesses are perjuring themselves. We just don’t know what they know.
@@angelabiery-jones5556 she hit him she was completely out of control mad at him and after 9 drinks, omg!!!!! Completely drunk out of her mind. You must of listened to the screaming recordings of her! My Lord!!!!
Julie really gets on my nerves. She acts like brainless. Can only Vinny host this case. She really irks me like she is jealous of Karen. Turtleboy cant stand her lol 😂😂😂
Total trash science when they mishandled all the forensic samples in this case. Any serious scientist would find any of those tests neglectable based on the sample collection and management. But we can’t expect a journalist that sold her ethics to care about that.
Julie Grant is one of the reasons why most people don’t watch court TV anymore and has lost all respect for it because of her lack of clear knowledge of the Karen Reid case where she seems to somehow believe Karen is guilty but doesn’t really know a lot about the case to know exactly of All the missing chain of custody lack of evidence, lack of proof, miss handling of evidence and the collection of DNA that was done in the most embarrassing way and sent to a vet DNA clinic by swapping a bunch of the same spots on a T-shirt and putting it together and two swabs in a plastic bag. I feel like she should not do any reporting as she seems extremely biased and Matt seems to actually have knowledge of the players in this case and what is going on she should not be so biased as a reporter of News especially when she doesn’t know much about this case to make it where it is clear it’s not as cut and dry as she’s trying to make it seem as someone who works for legal at Google and with 15+ years of E discovery and computer forensics in litigationI seem to know more about the law than Julie does
She knows well the case, she has been reporting this case since the beginning, what she is doing here is on purpose. A reporter without ethics that wants to create confusion and only reports one sided, simplistic information to influence the public opinion. She probably sold her journalist integrity at some point during this case.
I am so ashamed with the CW in the first trial it was proven John was never struck by a vehicle looking to blame innocent person instead of doing proper investigation they might find out what really happened 😢😢😢
@CrazyMaryJo Missing the live chat which was disabled. This hearing picks up from last month and is such BS. Wonder low long Bev plans on working today…..
Only a toddler would believe Karen and her lies. You have to be a total moron not to be able to realize you're supporting a murderer, and pathological liar . None of the evidence supports kop killer Karens conspiracy
Kevin Albert, cop, the brother of cop Brian Albert, whose lawn the dead cop was found, was allowed to be part of the "investigation" even though he and the Canton police were conflicted out. Thw case was corrupted by the investigator and the family who had no business investigating something they were conflicted with.
It's so unbelievable what they were allowed to do, I have no sympathy for any of the players involved they were all complicit from the top down. We are probably talking 20 if not more who have some hand in this, the number could be double that. The more you think about the more faces that appear. How much is it going to cost to make this go away.
I havent been keeping up with the case but out of curiosity i looked up pictures of dog bites and a lot of them look just like the injuries here. I must say i was surprised.
1:55 “Conspiracy Theory. . “ Why is this a conspiracy theory? How hard would it be to find a “expert” or any veterinarian that can confirm the wounds are from a dog???
@@BigDadGigaCHADShe was an ER doctor, a police officer, she did autopsies and is highly qualified, trained and knowledgeable to dog bites in all her years of employment.
so what was the answer, why did nobody ask her, so how long did it say it takes to die in the cold? Because its not 6 hours....Because the answer is under an hour...not 6 hours which is the timeframe the CW would have you believe. Consider also there was a blizzard, which by the way the CW harped on and on and on about...So we can fairly easily say extreme conditions. There was high winds, and heavy snowfall and low temperatures. The CW would have you believe that JO lay on the snow unattended and unconcious from 12.30 until 6am and was still alive when the medics found him.
Many Drs, experts have never testified in court. That has nothing to do with being an expert in your field. Most do not want to be in court at all. That has zero to do with her work experience. Testifying does not make you an expert. Doing the years of work independent of any trial is what matters. Im annoyed that the prosecution is even trying and annoyed that the biased judge is taking this serious. If she is not an expert then everyone on the prosecution side is not close to being one. Trial is a sham and waste of time and money. The judge is obviously a lush with a nasty disposition.
There is not a job description for "A dog bite expert" that is ridiculous. They don't give medical doctors some certificate that is specific to gerbal bites, turtle bites etc. Its part of her day to day experiences.
CHLOE the Albert’s family dog an Alsatian they had for 7yrs disappeared VERY quickly after Johns murder! Johns hoodie wasn’t ripped only punctured - how the hell did that happen? You armchair detectives 🤣
@@sassy1_4sure Why don’t you pray for the truth to be discovered? Or that Officer OKeefe’s will find true justice and peace? Otherwise, use the more accurate word- prey. You want KR to be guilty because you don’t like her. Don’t bring God into your vengeance. He said that is His and His alone.
Matt Johnson is so desperate to defend all things for Karen Reads Defense. Julie asks him something very specific about her qualifications as a “Dog Bite Expert” and Matt has to respond in the Negative but as quick as you can blink he’s in there saying “oh but look Julie she’s read articles, looked at dog bites in the ER”… Matt has no embarrassment either which really makes me believe the exchange of money is going on. He is way too much of a cheerleader Fangirling over Karen & her defense. It just looks really bizarre and weird
And Julie isn’t determined to paint KR guilty. What about all those emails from the DA’s office to her buddy Coffindaffer? Julie has had it out for Karen. Gaslighting
This expert has seen thousands of dog bites. She is more of an expert in it than anyone on top of her medical knowledge so please tell me where you would find another expert. That is a dog bite expert since that is not an actual profession or a career or even a certificate program. Tell me where someone would be more qualified than Dr. Russell and this specific subject, considering she actually has studied dog bites. Anyone who thinks these are not dog bites is usually to someone that dislikes turtle boy or is on the McCabe Albert side nobody with an actual intelligence ever thinks otherwise ask around.
Hank the court standard is Dr Ian Dunbar and the Dunbar scale. The Munich findings as mentioned refer to the same medicolegal standards. So Hank you are a liar liar pants on fire.
Julie the Jury was not present during that hearing and you should play the most recent dauber hearing where she came more prepared! Also, Julie the reason no dog DNA was found on John is because they didn’t test for it. Hopefully that answers your statement. And The CW expert is not representing Celebrite but his own company. Did you even watch the trial.
Hate to say that I'm ignorant but I can be just like all people I didn't know that a trial could go on twice I assumed that once it was over that was the end of it what if the same thing happens in a second trial what will be done if this prosecutor wants to continue is it going to be a third trial maybe even a fourth trial how long can this charade go on
Court TV, check your reporters that have conflict of interest and misrepresent the information. I you want to be seen as a serious news outlet, your reporters should be giving accurate information. I can’t even finish this video, I can’t deal with this woman’s theatrics when she knows she is lying to the public. Court TV, seriously consider what reporters you want in your team, this woman affects the credibility of your entire network.
There are only 2 theories for the injuries on Johns arm 1) dog bites that punctured his hoodie and then his forearm or 2)tailight shattered after John was hit and then penetrated his hoodie into his arm however no tailight was found at the scene when John was found😂😂 Any serious person understands what the obvious answer is🤷♀️
@OneLittleSpark8 Where’s the swab from his wounds? Oh that’s right, they conveniently lost them. They lost 2 minutes from the library cam. Couldn’t find any ring cameras in the neighborhood. Inverted a video without disclosure and had the most buttdials in history back and forth. They will be arrested, maybe not right away, but they are caught. The FBI paid for Karen’s expert. DENSE.
Your coverage of the Karen read case has been ( from what I have dared to watch as it gets me so frustrated, I need to tune out) so one sided, you might as well call yourselves the Beverly Canone and Adam Lally tribute show. You NEVER give two sides , and if you do, you give way less time to the defence argument and facts. Focusing more on what is being thrown at Karen Read and not only that, you do it with such glee anyone would think you have your own agenda to prove she is guilty. As it stands, your very bias programme does not deserve the air time it consumes. FREE KAREN READ. She is CLEARLY INNOCENT . Blind Freddy and his dog can see that.
Shes guilty. These doggy stories are ridiculous.A woman who reaches out to the defense and says those COULD'VE BEEN dog bites with no proof to back up her statement other than her own words.I'm yet to see a huge police cover up. She backed into him, he never made it into that house. She was angry with him that night.
So, if you're angry at your partner, we should all assume YOU did it? Do you seriously believe a car caused those lacerations? Straight lines? Also, if you rely on the genius accident reconstructionist, Trooper Paul, who has a big ole ASSOCIATES degree, and you don't see how much corruption there is, then that explains a lot as to why you think she's guilty, and you must be a bootlicker. 🙄
Yes, those were caused by being sideswiped at 24 mph from a taillight while flying 30 ft onto the lawn. Did you take high school math? IMPOSSIBLE. How many accounts do you McAlberts have?
So you’re saying that somehow at the same time a polycarbonate light exploded onto John‘s arm enough to cause scratch away motions in a very particular vertical position, which is a defense position when a dog bites I should know since I work with rescues and also I’m a computer forensic expert so I know about the Google searches be an absolutely a laugh oh, and I work for Googlebut I’m pretty sure if someone like you seems to know it all thinks that she’s guilty probably because you are somehow related to a Mac Albert or you don’t like turtle boy that seems to be the only people that thinks she’s guilty
those are NOT dog bites. I am rather more qualified that this person and can PROVE they are not dog bites so I left a message at the DAs office to tell them exctly what questions to ask her to prove she does not know what she is talking about if she is called as a witness.
Karen Read is out on BAIL. Judge made it difficult by not allowing a “not guilty”on the form and 5 Jurors came forward after the trial to speak up about that. ETA: //Cannone declared a mistrial on the fifth day of deliberations in Read's trial, just hours after the jury handed her a note saying they were “deeply divided by fundamental differences” in their opinions about the case// Judge could have just changed them firm which is SHADY like she is! I would not want myself anybody lived to be a Defendant in her Court.
@@hoosierdaddy3705 was saying that because the verdict form which gave no option for a Not Guilty Verdict spot it caused a lot of confusion for the jury while deliberating.
@@hoosierdaddy3705 hung jury is same as a mistrial which means both can be retried if the prosecution wishes to proceed. Only certain situations can cause a mistrial with no ability for a retrial.
It could be if I remember right from trial she said it could also be a coyote since them and dogs have similar bite marks. However it’s unscientific to say exactly what animals caused it
@@annebosworth7048 The experts (I'm assuming you mean ARCA?) also didn't have all the evidence. If they testify again, let's hope they get everything. That way we can have a good understanding. ARCA didn't have all the data, and Trooper Paul didn't seem qualified. One side must have a good reconstruction expert! I don't think they're that hard to find.
@@annebosworth7048they said it was unlikely he was hit by a car. They also didn’t have much information to go on. Most crucially the tech stream data from Lexus. Doing an accident reconstruction without the recorded vehicle data is silly. Hard to take it seriously.
@@annebosworth7048 right!? Never heard of anyone killed by a vehicle going 24 mph after being thrown into the air and land 30 ft away landing their phone underneath them and end up with no bruises or broken bones from the neck down except dog bites on one arm. These fools lied on the stand and they’re going down next go around. They underestimated Karen Read. She’s one strong woman and she ain’t go no quit!
She knows the case well, she has been playing this non-sense game since the case started. She knows well what she is doing, probably sold her journalism integrity to the CW or the McAlberts.
@@RobWilson-m1e People can't even explain WHY they think she's guilty. But anyone with half a brain cell can explain in 100 different ways as to why she's INNOCENT!
Karen knew she hit John. That is why she asked Jen to do the Google search. She admitted it to numerous people and in interviews. It is so disturbing that she has cast the blame on innocent people and harrassed them with TB. If she would have taken responsibility in the beginning, when Yanetti said it was a tragic accident, she would have served herself much better. And everyone else around her.
Sometimes when an animal finds a dead animal they will usually sniff it drag it around sometimes even take it home, but of course this body would have been much too heavy to drag especially in the snow!
Julie you have no idea what you're talking about as usual - really dislike you who judge without knowing. How do you explain the commonwealths expert how he explained it - Paul was/is absolutely no expert. Any common sense or love to judge women?
This "expert" is actually very good for the CW, she couldn't even tell if the wounds were from claws or from canine and has zero real expertise in the field of canine odontology. Let her make a fool of herself on the stand
I think the people in the house beat him up and put him out in the snow for not bringing anything. Karen then pulled up and didn’t see him just laying there so she hit him with her car. Then since the dog’s owners forgot to feed to dog during their alcohol consumption party, attacked him in hunger and frustration.
I certainly hope everyone watching this trial has realized what drinking a lot of alcohol can do for you what a convoluted mess I just wish mr o'keefe and karen had gone home when they had a chance
A pondering thought..what if he was scratched after being hit by the car and no one k ew ir saw him..somehow he crawled and in dark no one saw him...throwing ideas out
Auntie Bev is the most ridiculous judge I've ever witnessed, her bias is so bald-faced out there for the prosecution that she really should be kicked off the bench
Does not being declared a ''designated expert by an authority'' mean that someone doesn't possess the qualifications to know things? People are an expert at something long before being ''designated'' expert.
@@kc-wk1kzyou don’t need a degree to be an expert. He went over his qualifications. He clearly wasn’t ready for that defense and needs more trial prep. Dr. Russell treated bite wounds. That doesn’t make her an expert in dog bites.
@@LazySusan.no he hasn’t lol he couldn’t get Karen Read’s parents phone records. He won’t be able to get Dr. Russell excluded. She has a ridiculously impressive resume and education. He won’t be able to keep Richard Green out either.
@@Orangemochafrappucino Did you ever think there might be a strategy behind these motions other than what he's specifically asking for? I can actually think of several. Honestly, I hope they do testify. Neither are especially qualified. Especially Russell. If the Defense wanted a clear cut dog bite expert they could've hired one. Before the trial. Who lives in New England. And yes she was ridiculous today. But not at all impressive.
i don't think that Jen googled that question at 230am., but only later when Karen asked her to. This shows another example of how cell phone info can sometimes be unreliable and/or not exactly perfectly precise. But physics is physics; the way God made physics; physics doesn't change. The physics shows that John was not hit by a vehicle.
#CourtTV Catch up on the FACTS: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?
You sure can’t catch up on “the facts” on this show!!!! Julie Grant made some disingenuous statements which might lead the audience to the wrong conclusions. Julie stated that “no dog DNA was found on John’s body”……..not exactly…..unfortunately John’s arm wounds were not themselves tested for DNA. The shirt which has punctures which correspond to the arm wounds, was allegedly swabbed in a spot that showed PIG DNA. Well, pig is a common thing for various dog treats ie rawhides and pig ears. Also the clothing had no valid chain of custody and spent an inexplicable amount of time in one disgraced detective’s car.
Julie is so completely biased in favor of the prosecution that I won’t be watching any more of her shows. I can only hope that the audience looks elsewhere for more complete information about this case
Being silenced in chat unless paying money stiffles justice
DOG BITE OR TAILLIGHT?
1. The Commonwealth’s theory is that John’s arm was hit by Karen’s polycarbonate plastic taillight at 24 mph causing it to virtually explode resulting in the cuts to Johns right arm, also spreading across the Alberts lawn leaving a wide debris field of more than 47 pieces and shards of many shapes and sizes.
2. There are nine holes on the right arm of John’s sweatshirt, but there are 20 plus wounds on Johns right arm more than twice the number of wounds compared to the holes in the sweatshirt, that doesn’t happen with shards of exploding glass or plastic, you get one hole, one wound, matching like a bullet hole.
3. The nine holes on the right arm of John’s sweatshirt are all round/ oval, and about the thickness of a pencil 6 to 8mm in diameter. What are the chances that all these pieces of taillight of various shapes and sizes made these 9 almost identical size holes in the right sleeve of Johns sweatshirt?
4. If the wounds were from a broken taillight shard, there would be a square/rectangular hole in the sweatshirt and a square/rectangular wound on John’s arm matching the hole in the sweatshirt and the shard would most likely be still lodged in his arm just like any sharp projectile hitting your body, say shattering glass or a bullet.
5. The polycarbonate plastic in this case is about one eight of an inch in thickness about 3mm, shards from this taillight will not produce round holes, no matter if they are large or small, they will always produce rectangular shaped holes. Judging by the scale next to the largest hole in the sleeve of the sweatshirt it is no more than 10 mm in diameter. Logic will tell you that a shard no bigger than 10mm x 3mm would have passed through the sweatshirt. Most all the wounds are substantially larger than the holes in the sweatshirt.
6. All the holes show pulled fibres around the edges which tells us whatever made the holes was also removed from the holes, like a stab wound, or a dog bite. If Johns wounds had been caused by shards of taillight, we would expect to find at least some splinters or fragments of plastic in the wounds.
7. A dogs canine tooth is cone shaped and it will produce round or slightly oval holes depending how deep it penetrates; this is what we see in John’s sweatshirt, and it’s also what we see on his arm, small and large puncture wounds some distorted and some elongated due to the dog attack and John pulling away defending himself.
8. On his arm we see round puncture holes, and at least four of the bites we see parallel tear-drop shaped lacerations, caused by the two front canines pulling through the skin in the same direction.
9. When you compare the damage to the sweatshirt, to John's arm it proves that it was from canine teeth not shards of taillight. Small holes on the sweatshirt opposed to the long linear wounds on the arm. The reason that the damage to the sweatshirt does not match the amount of wounds on John’s arm, is because the dogs canines were already lodged in John’s loose sleeve as it tried to bite again and again.
10. If the wounds on John’s right arm were caused from broken taillight, then the sleeve of John’s sweatshirt would match perfectly with those wounds which they do not. You can’t fit a square peg into a round hole, everyone knows that.
Say it again. To the fool anchors in the back!!
@martinsmallwood1073 Wow, long post but you don’t have to convince me!
Hopefully Auntie Bev is impartial….
Physics dont add up. Impossible to do that damage at that speed in reverse. Can easily be tested using dummy and car.
Best explantion ever!
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Why do you never address the fact that the FBI hired independent experts who found it was NOT possible OJO was murdered by a car, furthermore they contacted Norfolk County and said they didn’t agree with moving forward in this case.
Shame on you.
Julie is Bev in disguise
Yeah very one sided show as usual
This conversion on the 2:27 am is based solely on the Prosecution position. What about showing both sides. There were 2 other experts who also confirmed the 2:27 am time.
Exactly.
@@liztesta9088 yes . Spot on. It seems though that defending yourself or having anything in your favour to prove the facts that you are innocent, are not what the prosecution wants. They have an agenda to send Karen to prison. They’ll never accept that she did not back into John even if there was full view, clear and comprehensive footage to prove she did not do it. But that’s just it, didn’t they say they had ringcam evidence she DID do it. So where’s that then? It doesn’t exist. Never did. What did exist was evidence to the contrary, and that’s why there is now no footage at all. Deleted along with everything else that proved her innocence. Video footage featured highly in this case…. Inverted video for one, missing library ‘moments’ just the bit that would prove Karen went back past . How ironic and coincidental is that????
The prosecution has no shame, all this in the name of law . I’d hazard to say that not many INVESTIGATIONS AND COURT CASES are run so LAWLESSLY.
It’s way beyond time that the headline named woman in this case are free to get on with their lives. Karen the first to be not held accountable for any crime whatsoever, then reimbursed for all monetary costs ( she’ll never get three years back that’s for sure)
And secondly BEV…. She needs to be released from any more days sitting in judge of anyone ever again… she needs to go to the back corner of some dried up old paddock and live out the rest of her days foraging for whatever scraps she can find…. And while chewing on her cud, think about all the unprofessional , bias, and downright snarky attitude she bought to this trial . And there may she rest.
I hope Karen is soon free, finds happiness, and solace in the fact that she has been vindicated and the foolish keystone cops are just a bad comedy deleted from ever featuring ever again. Ahhhh, what a lovely thought. Here’s hoping🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
2:27am is not possible that the search was done then. You can’t have experts lying. Green will end up in jail if he keeps it up
The defense experts were debunked by actual experts
Cannone is corrupt and wants karen indicted. Her bias stood tall in the first trial.
If Jen didn’t text “hos long to die in cold” and discovered John’s dead body on her Sisters lawn, tell me WHY did she feel no urgency to check on her Sister and family? Why isn’t the dog barking? Why isn’t she asking “Where is my Brother in law the Cop with all of these lights and sirens and a screaming woman (Karen)?
Because she already knew what happened!
All of Jen McCabes party deleted texts messages, made multiple phone calls to each other, then threw their phones away, Karen never deleted a single text, handed her phone over without a warrant because she had nothing to hide.
That says it all to me and anyone with common sense.
Plus FBI paid two crash experts $500K to try recreate a car accident, it's impossible, John O'Keefe was never hit by a car. They testified to this in the trial.
That's an interesting analysis, all right, But I have often wondered If we will ever know the truth about what really happened in this case. I think the only person who knows the real truth is John O'Keefe.😢
Michael Proctor has not been terminated (only suspended). His hearing is the 15th. If he is not terminated, I will have no faith in ever learning what happened. The FBI has not made the investigation of the investigation official yet. If and when they DO, I will be confident in a perp round up, however long it takes, so we will find out what happened.
At this time, the cover up is working so nobody is spilling. 🎶When the Levee Breaks 🎶
Oh please! Were you there at the time of his death? No...so neither you, nor anyone else that has such "facts" has a clue what happened
@ I watched the TRIAL gavel to gavel. We know exactly what happened from the first responder and on.
ETA my comment is about the TEXT message and it begs the question (that I asked). We can actually SEE Jen on dash cam footage and the trial interviewed every single person. Jen never tried to run up to the house. That’s not normal. Her whole family could have been massacred for all she knows! Oh, but, she does KNOW.
The dog/some kind of animal bites/scratch marks are not ''conspiracy theory''. They're common sense. In addition to the factual testimony of actual true expert Dr. Rentschler who explained using his knowledge in physics as to how John was not struck by a vehicle. (Which common sense also clearly demonstrates.)
(I don't think Karen hit John. But i also don't agree with the big conspiracy theory. But John was not hit by a vehicle.)
Those “bite marks “ are absolutely a cover up story. Made up by Janet and Karen Read. Btw, you may want to rewatch Dr Rentschler’s testimony.
@@kc-wk1kzit doesn’t have to be a “conspiracy theory.” It could be a rush to judgement and planting tail light pieces to close the case. *Some* of the individuals at the house the night before know what happened but it doesn’t require all of them to know.
Just looked at 40 photos of dog bites at ER, they look nothing like his arm!!!!!!
It should be up to a jury to decide if she is knowledgeable or not on dog bites.
Actually, it is up to the jury about whether they believe her opinion or not
She is more of an expert than anyone they have for the prosecution. Not sure how you would find anyone better. So will be hard to dismiss not sure why they are even trying. Means they are desperate, the jury should be aware of this feeble attempt dismiss an expert.
Julie do the research Ian is no longer employed with Cellebrite since 2022 or 2023. So when he was testifying he wasnt employed with Cellebrite. Rich Green didnt say any of that. FBI and Vanity Fair also sided with the defense. Birdbrain Julie
The Mass judicial system will do anything & everything to convict Karen Read because they know how horrible the investigation & the entire case was handled & they want to save face!! I think the entire LE agencies & the courts in that area of Mass needs to be thoroughly investigated by federal authorities!! I honestly believe she did not hit JO & IF she did it was a horrible accident.
Did you know that Federal authorities DID investigate and in fact hired their own Crash Specialists who testified? Not only did they do a cursory investigation, they also recommended that the Commonwealth do NOT try the case.
Also, there is an open “investigation” of the investigation. I think they would have moved forward but the trial is only going to help convict if witnesses are perjuring themselves. We just don’t know what they know.
@@angelabiery-jones5556 she hit him she was completely out of control mad at him and after 9 drinks, omg!!!!! Completely drunk out of her mind. You must of listened to the screaming recordings of her! My Lord!!!!
We don’t know about the DNA because the officers didn’t follow proper chain of custody of the evidence.
They LOST the sample from his arm.
@@madjack8893crap
Thank you court tv are misinforming the public and potential jurors smh do better @Court Tv
Julie really gets on my nerves. She acts like brainless. Can only Vinny host this case. She really irks me like she is jealous of Karen. Turtleboy cant stand her lol 😂😂😂
Karen could never have half of the talent and beauty than Julie.
No dog DNA was found from swabs of the shirt , they “lost” swabs of the actual wound
Exactly so obviously avoiding pertinent evidence.
Julie despises her.
Total trash science when they mishandled all the forensic samples in this case. Any serious scientist would find any of those tests neglectable based on the sample collection and management. But we can’t expect a journalist that sold her ethics to care about that.
Something strange about that doctor.
She's as bad as the spectacularly debunked Mr Green. The defense is laughable, unless you're the McCabe's or Albert's.
The host just lying to the public!!! Wow
Who Vinnie??
@jennyray1476 not Vinnie watch the ahow
@Johnny-mo4xz Vinnie is the one always getting the facts incorrect in this case , I did watch the show, Karen is guilty ASF
Julie Grant is one of the reasons why most people don’t watch court TV anymore and has lost all respect for it because of her lack of clear knowledge of the Karen Reid case where she seems to somehow believe Karen is guilty but doesn’t really know a lot about the case to know exactly of All the missing chain of custody lack of evidence, lack of proof, miss handling of evidence and the collection of DNA that was done in the most embarrassing way and sent to a vet DNA clinic by swapping a bunch of the same spots on a T-shirt and putting it together and two swabs in a plastic bag. I feel like she should not do any reporting as she seems extremely biased and Matt seems to actually have knowledge of the players in this case and what is going on she should not be so biased as a reporter of News especially when she doesn’t know much about this case to make it where it is clear it’s not as cut and dry as she’s trying to make it seem as someone who works for legal at Google and with 15+ years of E discovery and computer forensics in litigationI seem to know more about the law than Julie does
Get a grip. Just because she doesn’t grift to your satisfaction. Karen’s a cold blooded psychopath. They can’t all be fan boys like Matt.
Julie doesn't understand physics doesn't care what she thinks. The car didn't hit him as the case claims and an arm with abrasions won't kill you.
I stopped watching court TV because Julie Grant is literally a moron. The actual evidence that she is innocent is clear as day.
@@stevenprice6957 you clearly dont know the case at alll.
She knows well the case, she has been reporting this case since the beginning, what she is doing here is on purpose. A reporter without ethics that wants to create confusion and only reports one sided, simplistic information to influence the public opinion. She probably sold her journalist integrity at some point during this case.
I am so ashamed with the CW in the first trial it was proven John was never struck by a vehicle looking to blame innocent person instead of doing proper investigation they might find out what really happened 😢😢😢
Time for Judge Auntie Bev to surprise us with a Daubert ruling in favor of the Defense. 😅
She won’t
@CrazyMaryJo Missing the live chat which was disabled. This hearing picks up from last month and is such BS. Wonder low long Bev plans on working today…..
Conspiracy theory? 😂 you call yourself court tv? The man was attacked by a dog. A toddler could tell. And experts agree. This guy is a clown
Only a toddler would believe Karen and her lies. You have to be a total moron not to be able to realize you're supporting a murderer, and pathological liar . None of the evidence supports kop killer Karens conspiracy
You have the brain of a toddler.
Kevin Albert, cop, the brother of cop Brian Albert, whose lawn the dead cop was found, was allowed to be part of the "investigation" even though he and the Canton police were conflicted out. Thw case was corrupted by the investigator and the family who had no business investigating something they were conflicted with.
It's so unbelievable what they were allowed to do, I have no sympathy for any of the players involved they were all complicit from the top down. We are probably talking 20 if not more who have some hand in this, the number could be double that. The more you think about the more faces that appear. How much is it going to cost to make this go away.
There must be common injuries caused by tail lights, thousands have been injured this way. This looks like a dog bite!
I havent been keeping up with the case but out of curiosity i looked up pictures of dog bites and a lot of them look just like the injuries here. I must say i was surprised.
1:55 “Conspiracy Theory. . “
Why is this a conspiracy theory? How hard would it be to find a “expert” or any veterinarian that can confirm the wounds are from a dog???
Whatever. This case needs appealled out of this district and up to the supreme court if needed
😂😂oh geez you people are delusional
MAD Prosecutors seeking to remove Defence Expert Witnesses.. WTF..
She was an ER doctor, not a dog bite expert.
@@BigDadGigaCHADyep thats it.They could have call a cynology expert
@@BigDadGigaCHADdon't you think plenty people go to the ER with dog bite injuries?
@@BigDadGigaCHADShe was an ER doctor, a police officer, she did autopsies and is highly qualified, trained and knowledgeable to dog bites in all her years of employment.
She has even had research articles on the subject published in reputable medical journals. She is an expert!
I feel like I am in Kindergarten when the lady starts her sing songy cadence.🙄
so what was the answer, why did nobody ask her, so how long did it say it takes to die in the cold? Because its not 6 hours....Because the answer is under an hour...not 6 hours which is the timeframe the CW would have you believe. Consider also there was a blizzard, which by the way the CW harped on and on and on about...So we can fairly easily say extreme conditions. There was high winds, and heavy snowfall and low temperatures. The CW would have you believe that JO lay on the snow unattended and unconcious from 12.30 until 6am and was still alive when the medics found him.
Right! ♥️
Many Drs, experts have never testified in court. That has nothing to do with being an expert in your field. Most do not want to be in court at all. That has zero to do with her work experience. Testifying does not make you an expert. Doing the years of work independent of any trial is what matters. Im annoyed that the prosecution is even trying and annoyed that the biased judge is taking this serious. If she is not an expert then everyone on the prosecution side is not close to being one. Trial is a sham and waste of time and money. The judge is obviously a lush with a nasty disposition.
All these motions are all part of bankrupting the Defendant
*correction cellebrite has not debunked the 2:27am search.
Correction, that is a flat out lie.
free karen read!
There is not a job description for "A dog bite expert" that is ridiculous. They don't give medical doctors some certificate that is specific to gerbal bites, turtle bites etc. Its part of her day to day experiences.
Too much detail. Why did she need to mention MS?
CHLOE the Albert’s family dog an Alsatian they had for 7yrs disappeared VERY quickly after Johns murder! Johns hoodie wasn’t ripped only punctured - how the hell did that happen? You armchair detectives 🤣
I pray they hold her accountable this time. She ran over him and he died. This is an arrogant, narcissistic WOMAN!!!!
The medical examiner testified she can’t say for certain that he was struck by a vehicle
@@sassy1_4sure Why don’t you pray for the truth to be discovered? Or that Officer OKeefe’s will find true justice and peace? Otherwise, use the more accurate word- prey. You want KR to be guilty because you don’t like her.
Don’t bring God into your vengeance. He said that is His and His alone.
Matt Johnson is so desperate to defend all things for Karen Reads Defense.
Julie asks him something very specific about her qualifications as a “Dog Bite Expert” and Matt has to respond in the Negative but as quick as you can blink he’s in there saying “oh but look Julie she’s read articles, looked at dog bites in the ER”…
Matt has no embarrassment either which really makes me believe the exchange of money is going on.
He is way too much of a cheerleader Fangirling over Karen & her defense.
It just looks really bizarre and weird
And Julie Grant is so desperate to convict Karen. She is so blinded by her own opinions that she can’t see anything else.
And Julie isn’t determined to paint KR guilty.
What about all those emails from the DA’s office to her buddy Coffindaffer?
Julie has had it out for Karen.
Gaslighting
This expert has seen thousands of dog bites. She is more of an expert in it than anyone on top of her medical knowledge so please tell me where you would find another expert. That is a dog bite expert since that is not an actual profession or a career or even a certificate program. Tell me where someone would be more qualified than Dr. Russell and this specific subject, considering she actually has studied dog bites. Anyone who thinks these are not dog bites is usually to someone that dislikes turtle boy or is on the McCabe Albert side nobody with an actual intelligence ever thinks otherwise ask around.
Hank the court standard is Dr Ian Dunbar and the Dunbar scale. The Munich findings as mentioned refer to the same medicolegal standards. So Hank you are a liar liar pants on fire.
Theres no evidence it was from a polycarbonate light cover.
Ridiculous!! This should’ve never gone to trial once, let alone twice! Waste of millions of dollars
That’s obviously not your decision! Where is your Law or Criminal Justice Degree from!?
Julie the Jury was not present during that hearing and you should play the most recent dauber hearing where she came more prepared! Also, Julie the reason no dog DNA was found on John is because they didn’t test for it. Hopefully that answers your statement. And The CW expert is not representing Celebrite but his own company. Did you even watch the trial.
Either way, how did the injuries happen? Holes in shirt…Leaving parallel, lateral lacerations. With or without Dr. Russell, it wasn’t a car.
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Hate to say that I'm ignorant but I can be just like all people I didn't know that a trial could go on twice I assumed that once it was over that was the end of it what if the same thing happens in a second trial what will be done if this prosecutor wants to continue is it going to be a third trial maybe even a fourth trial how long can this charade go on
Karen Reed Guilty
100% GUILTY👌👍🏻
Court TV, check your reporters that have conflict of interest and misrepresent the information. I you want to be seen as a serious news outlet, your reporters should be giving accurate information.
I can’t even finish this video, I can’t deal with this woman’s theatrics when she knows she is lying to the public. Court TV, seriously consider what reporters you want in your team, this woman affects the credibility of your entire network.
There are only 2 theories for the injuries on Johns arm 1) dog bites that punctured his hoodie and then his forearm or 2)tailight shattered after John was hit and then penetrated his hoodie into his arm however no tailight was found at the scene when John was found😂😂 Any serious person understands what the obvious answer is🤷♀️
No canine dna on his shirt. Tiny pieces of taillight, but no dog. You are not a serious person.
@OneLittleSpark8 Where’s the swab from his wounds?
Oh that’s right, they conveniently lost them.
They lost 2 minutes from the library cam.
Couldn’t find any ring cameras in the neighborhood.
Inverted a video without disclosure and had the most buttdials in history back and forth.
They will be arrested, maybe not right away, but they are caught. The FBI paid for Karen’s expert.
DENSE.
Guilty as charged
@@justicejane2429 On many things!
@@LazySusan.Like what? If auntie Bef refuses to allow this testimonie then she is scared she will lose, and auntie doesn't like loosing.
@ Without using Google, based on watching the entire trial, please explain why you think she's guilty? I'm genuinely curious what convinced you.
@drea1999 The GPS shows John didn't go up the hill with his phone. Therefore, he didn't go into the house. She has told nothing, but lies...imo
@@justicejane2429 Oh, one thing? That's it? That's what you're relying on as beyond a reasonable doubt? One thing? Ooof!
Your coverage of the Karen read case has been ( from what I have dared to watch as it gets me so frustrated, I need to tune out) so one sided, you might as well call yourselves the Beverly Canone and Adam Lally tribute show. You NEVER give two sides , and if you do, you give way less time to the defence argument and facts. Focusing more on what is being thrown at Karen Read and not only that, you do it with such glee anyone would think you have your own agenda to prove she is guilty. As it stands, your very bias programme does not deserve the air time it consumes.
FREE KAREN READ. She is CLEARLY INNOCENT . Blind Freddy and his dog can see that.
Karen is guilty as hell
Dr. Marie Russell is qualified.
She’s a fraud who lives in her green van.
@@RoseWater-b6uShe's a former cop a former ER doctor and former medical examiner. If that doesn't make her qualifed then what does
Shes guilty. These doggy stories are ridiculous.A woman who reaches out to the defense and says those COULD'VE BEEN dog bites with no proof to back up her statement other than her own words.I'm yet to see a huge police cover up. She backed into him, he never made it into that house. She was angry with him that night.
So, if you're angry at your partner, we should all assume YOU did it? Do you seriously believe a car caused those lacerations? Straight lines? Also, if you rely on the genius accident reconstructionist, Trooper Paul, who has a big ole ASSOCIATES degree, and you don't see how much corruption there is, then that explains a lot as to why you think she's guilty, and you must be a bootlicker. 🙄
Yes, those were caused by being sideswiped at 24 mph from a taillight while flying 30 ft onto the lawn.
Did you take high school math?
IMPOSSIBLE.
How many accounts do you McAlberts have?
So you’re saying that somehow at the same time a polycarbonate light exploded onto John‘s arm enough to cause scratch away motions in a very particular vertical position, which is a defense position when a dog bites I should know since I work with rescues and also I’m a computer forensic expert so I know about the Google searches be an absolutely a laugh oh, and I work for Googlebut I’m pretty sure if someone like you seems to know it all thinks that she’s guilty probably because you are somehow related to a Mac Albert or you don’t like turtle boy that seems to be the only people that thinks she’s guilty
Karen Read is guilty
Did she send the dog after her husband, if there are dog bites on his arm?!
Such a biased segment. I'm extremely disappointed that CourtTV didn't invite experts that know that Karen Read is innocent.
It was made clear. She read it in a newspaper email link.
those are NOT dog bites. I am rather more qualified that this person and can PROVE they are not dog bites so I left a message at the DAs office to tell them exctly what questions to ask her to prove she does not know what she is talking about if she is called as a witness.
Freak 😂
I watch trials on TH-cam. I’m an expert in anything they need. Goof 😂
Fool
😂😂😂
😝 Keep trying.
Every dog expert that looked said 100 percent.
Ramp up, because we’re not going to give up defending an INNOCENT woman.
Nice work Julie Grant!
Isn't a hung jury supposed to be the same as a not guilty? Why was a mistrial allowed?
Karen Read is out on BAIL. Judge made it difficult by not allowing a “not guilty”on the form and 5 Jurors came forward after the trial to speak up about that.
ETA: //Cannone declared a mistrial on the fifth day of deliberations in Read's trial, just hours after the jury handed her a note saying they were “deeply divided by fundamental differences” in their opinions about the case//
Judge could have just changed them firm which is SHADY like she is!
I would not want myself anybody lived to be a Defendant in her Court.
@@HoldMyLatte-x6t Your answer makes no sense. Jurors could not come to a conclusion. That is a hung jury definition.
@@hoosierdaddy3705 was saying that because the verdict form which gave no option for a Not Guilty Verdict spot it caused a lot of confusion for the jury while deliberating.
@@hoosierdaddy3705 hung jury is same as a mistrial which means both can be retried if the prosecution wishes to proceed. Only certain situations can cause a mistrial with no ability for a retrial.
@@xo_Boujee_xo Not supposed to be that way.
It’s still a dog bite Hank
Why couldn’t the marks be from a wild animal, wasn’t he lying out there all night?
It could be if I remember right from trial she said it could also be a coyote since them and dogs have similar bite marks. However it’s unscientific to say exactly what animals caused it
but also either way that hurts the commonwealths case since they’re saying these wounds were caused when she hit him
@@blakekaveny you are not wrong.
….Dr Russel….money is not worth destroying whatever reputation you have left. Dont do this.
Karen is guilty
She might be but no evidence to prove it..the experts said he wasn't hit by a car..zero bruises..
@@annebosworth7048 The experts (I'm assuming you mean ARCA?) also didn't have all the evidence. If they testify again, let's hope they get everything. That way we can have a good understanding. ARCA didn't have all the data, and Trooper Paul didn't seem qualified. One side must have a good reconstruction expert! I don't think they're that hard to find.
@@annebosworth7048they said it was unlikely he was hit by a car. They also didn’t have much information to go on. Most crucially the tech stream data from Lexus. Doing an accident reconstruction without the recorded vehicle data is silly. Hard to take it seriously.
😂😂😂😂 right
@@annebosworth7048 right!? Never heard of anyone killed by a vehicle going 24 mph after being thrown into the air and land 30 ft away landing their phone underneath them and end up with no bruises or broken bones from the neck down except dog bites on one arm. These fools lied on the stand and they’re going down next go around. They underestimated Karen Read. She’s one strong woman and she ain’t go no quit!
This woman is such a liar knows nothing about this case
She knows the case well, she has been playing this non-sense game since the case started. She knows well what she is doing, probably sold her journalism integrity to the CW or the McAlberts.
Incredible Prosecutor 😂 are you serious .... he's scraping the barrel....just be open with the viewers, be honest ....your clearly bias
Great testimony on cellbright great for prosecution 🙏Justice for John ❤
GUILTY
Guilty 100 percent the cops are
@@RobWilson-m1e People can't even explain WHY they think she's guilty. But anyone with half a brain cell can explain in 100 different ways as to why she's INNOCENT!
Hate Matt Johnson. So one sided. He needs to be taken off this case.
Big case for rules of evidence.
Karen knew she hit John. That is why she asked Jen to do the Google search. She admitted it to numerous people and in interviews. It is so disturbing that she has cast the blame on innocent people and harrassed them with TB. If she would have taken responsibility in the beginning, when Yanetti said it was a tragic accident, she would have served herself much better. And everyone else around her.
Lock her up
Maybe the dog was trying to help him, pulling him to help
Sometimes when an animal finds a dead animal they will usually sniff it drag it around sometimes even take it home, but of course this body would have been much too heavy to drag especially in the snow!
And they didn't they say their was no dog DNA!??
The “ Animal “ is Karen Read ! She said “ SHE HIT HIM “ !!
those are not dog bites-end of story.
These are not dog bites. End of story.
Julie knows the "defense" in this case is as sleazy, and unethical as turtleboy himself.
Julie you have no idea what you're talking about as usual - really dislike you who judge without knowing. How do you explain the commonwealths expert how he explained it - Paul was/is absolutely no expert. Any common sense or love to judge women?
This "expert" is actually very good for the CW, she couldn't even tell if the wounds were from claws or from canine and has zero real expertise in the field of canine odontology. Let her make a fool of herself on the stand
Look like bites
I think the people in the house beat him up and put him out in the snow for not bringing anything. Karen then pulled up and didn’t see him just laying there so she hit him with her car. Then since the dog’s owners forgot to feed to dog during their alcohol consumption party, attacked him in hunger and frustration.
Lmao hopefully you are trolling as this doesn’t match anything with the case.
@ Which part?
If dumb dumb Trooper Paul was considered to be an expert witness, then my 13 yr old niece could be, based on who Aunt Bev considers to be an expert. 😂
Look up what it takes to be accredited with ACTAR. You’re the dumb dumb for falling for this ridiculous conspiracy.
Exactly.
These 🤡 comparing associate degree Guarinooo against real experts hired by the FBI.
His best day was never swapped for dog dna. The anchor knows that. Why is she lying??
You dont need dog dna to match a dog to an attack, they are other methods
Because she dislikes her and her buddies at the DA’s office don’t like her supplying accurate information and evidence.
Why was the dog rehomed?
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Omg. The guy doesnt even know the address. Please stop reporting this case.
KAREN IS INNOCENT.
No, she 100% is GUILTY.
@@Noneofyourbusiness57817 Karen Read is guilty.
@@BigDadGigaCHAD FBI disagrees with you
We were not there!
No the expert witness had not read or witnessed anything in trial before she was contacted by the defense to examine the dead officers wounds
34: Fairview not 22 Fairview
Fighting to keep experts out. If you had a case you would fight to keep them in
Dr Russel is not an expert in anything at all. Least of all dog bites.
I certainly hope everyone watching this trial has realized what drinking a lot of alcohol can do for you what a convoluted mess I just wish mr o'keefe and karen had gone home when they had a chance
A pondering thought..what if he was scratched after being hit by the car and no one k ew ir saw him..somehow he crawled and in dark no one saw him...throwing ideas out
If anyone ever wants to make a movie out of this, Kathy Bates would be perfect as the expert witness. 😜
She’s NOT qualified.
Auntie Bev is the most ridiculous judge I've ever witnessed, her bias is so bald-faced out there for the prosecution that she really should be kicked off the bench
Does not being declared a ''designated expert by an authority'' mean that someone doesn't possess the qualifications to know things? People are an expert at something long before being ''designated'' expert.
Am not sure why the prosecution doesn't question the qualifications of (well meaning but not an expert) Trooper Paul.
@@kc-wk1kzI literally just came here to say that. If HE can be an expert witness, then ANYONE can.
@@kc-wk1kzyou don’t need a degree to be an expert. He went over his qualifications. He clearly wasn’t ready for that defense and needs more trial prep. Dr. Russell treated bite wounds. That doesn’t make her an expert in dog bites.
She is lying
Defense might need other ways to get a hung jury -judge may not let this stuff back in on next trial.
Hank Brennan has been highly effective so far. At this point, I'm only nervous about getting an impartial jury....
@@LazySusan.no he hasn’t lol he couldn’t get Karen Read’s parents phone records. He won’t be able to get Dr. Russell excluded. She has a ridiculously impressive resume and education. He won’t be able to keep Richard Green out either.
@@Orangemochafrappucino Did you ever think there might be a strategy behind these motions other than what he's specifically asking for? I can actually think of several. Honestly, I hope they do testify. Neither are especially qualified. Especially Russell. If the Defense wanted a clear cut dog bite expert they could've hired one. Before the trial. Who lives in New England. And yes she was ridiculous today. But not at all impressive.
It was the BUSHES that caused the scratches
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Rose buds
i don't think that Jen googled that question at 230am., but only later when Karen asked her to. This shows another example of how cell phone info can sometimes be unreliable and/or not exactly perfectly precise. But physics is physics; the way God made physics; physics doesn't change. The physics shows that John was not hit by a vehicle.
I dont believe she knew she hit him, if she even did hit him.
You wrong Julie .. you wrong
Guess I'll just have to watch something else tomorrow. 😡
Time to get rid of Auntie Bev. I hear you 🤬🤬
We will prevail 😊
Julie can't even pretend to be neutral.
Censoring comments now.
Cowards.
You are not journalists.