Felt very sorry for the Judge on this case, apparently he’d buried his own son two weeks prior, following an illness, it must have been so hard having Alec in front of him every day, knowing HE TOOK his sons life. Very professional, and I really admired him not standing down from taking this case . God bless him and his family. 🙏💐
Judges sons death was sudden heart attack at 40 years old. He was an attorney also. His eyes teared up when he said to AM "you must have loved your son very much" ❤️
Mark Tinsley is what got me HOOKED on the Murdaugh murders . His testimony was riveting ! No matter how hard the defense tried to corner him it was never going to happen . Respect him immensely
The boat crash that took that poor girls life was what finally took him down. Had that not happened he’d still be manipulating and stealing from unfortunate people that trusted him.
The video on Paul's own phone sealed the deal / convicted his father for brutally murdering him and his mother. If this isn't sweet revenge in typical Murdaugh style, I don't know what is. Smart*ss Alex assumed if he blew his sons brains out, and gunned down his wife, he'd never get caught. For someone with a bad reputation as his, he isn't too bright.
Yes. Not that I wish Alec would have gotten off, I have to say why in the hell, did he not take Maggie's and Paul's phones, and destroy them both, with a hammer, and then dispose of the pieces. This has baffled me.
@@elizabethjowell8405 Yes, I've always wondered about that myself. Not that I'd wished he would have gotten off, but I was surprised he didn't just destroy both phones, like with a hammer, and then disposed of them somewhere in the ditch or the swamp or whatever. He obviously didn't, and that was the break that got the conviction for Alan Wilson, Creighton Waters, John Meadors, and all the rest of the state's prosecution team. That one video on Paul's phone was the straw that broke the camel's back for Alex Murdaugh.
Mr Tinsley was one of the most stand out witnesses of that trial 🙌🏻 he was going to take on Alex despite his power in that community to get justice for the Beech family. A good man.
I watched Mark Tinsley’s testimony. He made it crystal clear that Alex’s financial crimes were directly related to the murders of Maggie and Paul. I was so impressed with Mark’s tenacity and that he would not be intimidated or shaken off his testimony.
No, he was addicted to opiates for years. There is far too much evidence showing it. Maggie and Paul texts, Blanca knew, his brother knew, and most importantly; the rehab and detox clinics released his blood work which proved it. Even Creighton Waters confirmed it in court.
@@coderider3022 am afraid I agree with you. Those kids have all stated Paul was too impaired to drive the boat - so none of them should've been on that boat - clearly. Doesn't stop Paul's liability though
I disagree- Paul and the Cook boy where taking turns at the wheel. They all knew Paul very well , they knew he had a drinking problem, and the fact he had a personality disorder. A dangerous one! Plus ALL the kids were drinking, that says a lot about their families. And they are accountable for getting in that boat!
The other boy was taking the wheel from time to time. At least when Paul was not capable. The other kids in the boat said that. But that does not make him responsible. I just wish he had taken over the wheel. I believe one of the bigger boys could have shut his mouth and sit him down. Unfortunately neither did. Rest in piece Mallory ♥️
Mark Tinsley seems like a rock solid lawyer and grounded individual. My favorite commment was when he described Murdaugh at one point as a "well oiled stealing machine".
Maggie was already living on her own at the Edisto Beach House 95% of the time, plus she had consulted with a divorce lawyer. It's no surprise that Alec had her on the hit list for many months before the murders.
I would almost bet you that a discussion about a divorce between Maggie, Paul, and Alec had taken place that day, that night, or a few days before this incident.
Mark Tinsley was incredible on the stand. Clear concise and gave the jury a great example of what a truthful confident lawyer should look like. It was also cool to see lawyers sparing another lawyer on the stand! I normally feel uncomfortable watching a lawyer cross a witness. It was fun to see then hold their own and be clever!
Moselle was owned solely by Maggie. Her wedding ring was under the seat in the car and she wasn't living with Alex at the time. She knew he was lying about the finances and she was heading toward divorce. She didn't want to go to Moselle when Alex asked her to come. His premise was that they were going to go and visit his dad, yet he didn't take Maggie with him to his parents house. Maggie and Paul were about to become his biggest financial liability and Alex only cared about Alex. Without Moselle Alex's line of credit with the bank would dissolve as well.
@@stacychandler9296 There's also zero evidence that she "wasn't living with him," either. Her own sister testified that Maggie always preferred the beach over the "great outdoors" type of lifestyle, but that she took part in those activities because she wanted to spend time with her family. There was also testimony to the fact that Maggie always had Bubba with her whenever she went to spend the night at the beach house. Since she didn't take Bubba with her that day, it's pretty hard to believe that she had intended to stay there over night, and that Alex "lured" her back to Moselle.
I could listen to Tinsley talk all day! What an intelligent and great lawyer he is! Wish there was a continuation of this video. Prayers for MT’s health!
Mark Tinsely is literally one of the people in this case that keeps me from losing all hope in humanity in general. Sure there are others but he really demonstrated supreme ethics with his actions ! He is an excellent person who was not intimidated by this nightmare of a family and he did what was right.
You are a wonderful interviewer-quiet, intelligent, and giving people the floor. Your interest really seems to be in the subject matter and guest, and not as the overpowering ‘star of the show’. Rare for online. Greatly appreciated. Subscribed.👍
I am actually not surprised. When he talked about their murders during questioning he only ever seemed remorseful/upset about Paul. Maggie always seemed like an afterthought. Like “Oh yeah, her too.”
I never believed he was addicted, either nor that he consumed massive numbers of pills daily. My sister was an addict and his behavior doesn't jive with real addiction.
Odd that the law firm overlooked Alex's shenanigans until they caught on to the fact that he was also stealing from them.🤔 I felt some of the associates and staff testified to cover their own a$$es.
Indeed. I spoke with a SC attorney. She said everyone in law knows you don't EVER write a check to Forge. It works the other way....Forge writes checks out to clients.
I think Alex's father was probably a SUPER A-HOLE, was at the hospital after the boat crash intimidating victims, protected Alex all his life...created the ENTITLEMENT ATTITUDE
Someone needs to conduct a case study on Alex. It’s fantastical his way of thinking, the entitlement, greed, and murderous impulses. I believe we could learn so much from this case, not only to gain an understanding of why he thought the way he did, but to maybe find ways to prevent tragedies like this from happening in the future. This case was bananas!
No matter how much effort we place upon getting to the root of fantastical thinking and the other traits of killers, serial and others, it won't make a difference because, unfortunately, we only get to these minds AFTER a dastardly deed!!! No chance before.
It's kinda complicated but not. The dude got away with everything got whatever he wanted grew up rich. There is the entitled attitude, he prob thought its not stealing if I pay it back before they try to get it out. He had a stay at home wife and 2 kids and properties he had to keep up with so he just poured out too much milk than his glass could hold. And at the point when he had all the pressure on himself and what was going on with paul and rumorably his wife. He convinced himself he would be saving Paul from jail and his health. And maggie he couldn't face his wife leaving and she would be better off watching over paul. The prosecution said it best it was all about Alex.. They can be disposable he's the one he cares about. But that also doesn't mean he didn't love his family he prob did. That's prob why paul was to the head it was spos to be fast and painless.and I think him saying they did him so bad. Was him admitting it was spos to be fast and painless and over. And maggie being executed was to put her out of her misery. Both to me looking at how they were shot was cowardly he couldn't look them in the eyes.
You’ll gain nothing. He didn’t kill them. You can study the flight of worms but you won’t learn anything because worms don’t fly. Your interest is in all the fabrications and dramatizations created by an ecosystem of true crime hype.
@@snickers882 I agree, Paul was likely supposed to be fast and painless and over, but he messed up the shot and the second shot had a ghastly result. I'm not entirely sure he loved Maggie all that deeply, they were married a long time and she was apparently suspicious of him.
Mark, you were a work of art on the stand!!!! I could listen to you talk about the case all day!!! Your dedication to your clients shines through!!! I have been around attorneys all of my life and worked in the Public Defenders Office in the 7th Judicial Circuit and I know of some attorneys who do their jobs because they want t o make sure that everyone's rights are protected. And there are a few who do it because it pays the bills. But every once in a while, you come across someone like you. The compassion, the hunger to see the right things done in the end, and the satisfaction of helping people who aren't able to help themselves can't be hidden!!!! SC is extremely blessed to have you fighting for the right thing!!!!!
I’d seen him talk before and he was very good….on the stand I thought he was very prickly, overtly so. He let the lawyers get to him. He did drop his attitude towards the end though
Yes totally believe the addiction problem was all fabricated for another gain of sympathy. He stated he was so paranoid yet didn't get cameras on his property?
I think it was a point to have Maggie and Paul there that night. They had become a liability to Alex because of the boat case and Maggie divorcing him. IMO
My opinion of which I'm sure doesn't but I will state it anyway. Alex felt he had no choice but to get rid of Maggie. He knew she had seen an attorney about divorcing him. A divorce would mean a deeper dive into his indiscretions. I think Alex involvement into other unsavory finicial matters would come out if she divorced him. Maggie was not wearing her wedding ring the night she was murdered. Balonca found it under the driver's seat while cleaning Maggie's car after SLED released it. I feel Alex's evils are much deeper than anyone could anticipate.
I honestly believe he killed Paul because of the boat accident revealing so many things. I think he was angry at Paul but, he knew he would have to kill Maggie so he wouldn't have to answer to her. She seemed very protective of her boys. Having worked in pharmacy for 37 years, no way was he taking as many oxycodone as he claims and NO WAY his family would not have known it.
I agree.. I do think he used but not as much as he claims.. I think he sold to teens and rich people that didn't want to go to the streets or asked their own doctors..
Exactly!! He doesn’t co-own parcels of land on two islands in and around the coast of SC with another shady character… I heard this on a podcast like this. Not in some gossip magazine. I don’t remember the name… it’s someone that AM has worked with or knew and I believe it’s a name we have all heard.
Alex said he’s innocent of murdering his family, why isn’t he screaming and demanding to find out who the killers are ? He’s just getting on with life, even in jail he’ll be pulling the strings. He never mentions their names in the phone conversations.
He even talked at length abt gambling winnings. The lack of use of their names is a psychological trick to distance himself from what most would call the unthinkable
I think he was worried his wife would divorce him at some point and take him to the cleaners. Also Paul's law suit was going to put a strain on finances as well. They were barriers to be disposed of.
l'm not sure what his amount was but personally l was taking 6 40mg of Oxy's a day 4 - 40mg of morphine tabs. 1- 100 mg of Fentynll patches every other day. 6 mg zanex (2mg.handle bars) and 20 mg of Ambien. I was once told by an emergency Doctor that l was on the Ultimate cocktail. And he couldn't believe l was alive. I"m alive today because l went off of all of it and Thank God l did.😊❤
So if Alex addiction was so bad there would've been many other clinical signs. For instance, withdrawal signs, verbal outbursts, tremors, sleep issues, other substance abuse, inconsistencies in professional performance just to name a few. I really believe that his supposed drug problem was an act.
The one truth was him coming clean about drug use. I have had it in my family and it was years before they quit. You talk to doctors , lawyers , Judges and everyday people. Vivitrol has been on the market for at least 10 years or more. Probably what Trump wanted to stop opioid use and his admin had this made a shot once a month. It’s sad that doctors are scared to give it but Washington rights the scrip.
I mean kinda, sadly her death was the final straw on the camels back and everything came tumbling down after that sure the kid never even walked into a jail his mug shot was taken outside the courthouse if it were anything else the merdoughs would’ve swept it under the rug like everything else
Replay crew. Judge Newman was right, Mark Tinsley is a “tiger”. He’s uncovered all of AM’s financial crimes and didn’t back down. Thank you so much Chris for bringing us such a great guest. 💙
Alex was so sure the law would believe his account of the murders because he WAS the law in Hampton County. I believe he never thought they would go so far as to indict him. He was always protected by his name and his father and wasn't accustomed to suffering any consequences.
100%. He was literally above the law. They have been scratching one another’s backs for going on 100 YEARS. The roots that grow over that period are SO DEEP and FAR REACHING that he had no reason to believe he couldn’t get away with it. There is SO MUCH corruption in this case. With all of the financial things, I believe MANY MORE will likely get dragged down with him. His addiction problem is BS. There is no way, unless he was taking Fentanyl, that he was doing opioids in excess like he said. It’s been IMPOSSIBLE to get your hands on pills in that amount since 2013. Trump further decimated opioids under his presidency.
That is something I fail to understand. How could this man have been trusted this far? I do believe Murdaugh thought he was untouchable because of his name. Killing your wife, and especially your son, just seems so unbelievable, but again we know it happens.
A retired RN here. A lot of factors come into play, not just the AMOUNT. How many milligrams (strength) for one. If he was taking 60 - 20 mg oxy's, he surely cculd act normal especially if his body is used to taking that many over 20 years.
@@Balletcalvero yes they are and no way he could function as an attorney or even drive……Just a blatant lie from him….cant believe prosecution didnt question this more…..
@@Trish-fv7ck 1) he couldnt afford taking that many every day to get that tolerance and 2) couldnt find that many to take everyday without drawing MAJOR law enforcement….
I loved Mr. Tinsley's testimony, particularly the bit about not going into the defense team's imaginary world. That might've been my favorite bit of testimony in the whole thing.
Even Maggie has done shady stuff. The way she talk about the maid, that's worked for them and practically raised the son. She is obviously annoyed that she is dying on their steps. Who else recognized that??
She seemed very suspect, to me - of having her own hands in AM's nefarious dealings. Her friends' acquaintances spoke of her egotistic materialism. Her greed and complicity in AH's dealings sadly came at a price. I think she became a liability when she finally wanted out and Paul not cow-towing to Daddy's whims and aligning with Maggie sealed his death sentence. So very sad. I'm grateful the monster is behind bars.
@@mary-annkucher4221 - where is all this info about Maggie coming out? I watched some of the trial later on but didn’t pY much attention in the beginning. I’d love to know more about her.. where’s all this about her coming from?
Not the first time a parent has taken their own flesh and blood, and unfortunately, it wasn’t the last. It’s beyond me. I’d die for my kids, do anything for them to not be harmed….then there are people like Alex!
Mark you were awesome on the stand just loved it when you pulled the paperwork from you jacket that was brilliant. I’m in Australia watching court case everyday.
I hope you are doing better health wise.People need people like you. Im stage 4 and was told i had 6 months ( 2 years ago) .Do NOT give up or listen to negativity.
Mark Tinsley is a superior, intelligent and credible lawyer polished with integrity and intuition. I'm not a lawyer, but when Alec stated, "Whoever did this thought about it a long time," I drew certainty that he did it, Why? Because we only know how WE think. We cannot determine how someone else thinks, I appreciate Murdaugh sharing his thoughts with the court, et al!
She was going to be a victim or a witness and he could not tolerate the later. Plus he'd probably heard she was consulting a divorce attorney, which would have led to a rigorous financial examination - one of three crashing down on him.
Judge Newman also presided over the Nathaniel Rowland trial....the man who murdered Samantha Josephson when she mistook him for her Uber driver. He was just as measured and professional as he was in the Murdaugh case.
I watched Mark's testimony a million times if I watched it once. His composure on the stand was epic! It was so obvious how well he knew Alec and how shifty Alec is. Really, really good.
He killed Maggie because he knew she was going to leave him. That's why the passionate overkill that he performed on her.... Paul was just extra baggage.
Mark Tinsley is so badass. When he got on the stand he put it all together with one sentence. He said if a vigilante came along and killed Paul and Maggie, the boat case against Alex goes away for me that was the defining moment
Leah Brandon, Right on!! I bin followin this from very early and the minute this man got on the stand, then said "no one tells me what to do"! I thought, Badass straightshooter.!! Have not changed my mind since. A decent human, who got some closure and costs for Mallory's Mum an Dad. He's a "Good Soul". 👍😊
I don't believe for a second that Alex murdered Maggie and Paul to protect her/them from litigation or legal repercussions or anything else for that matter. He's a sociopath. They do what they do to protect themselves, their own interests, or egos. He thought it would mean less trouble for himself. And I do think Maggie, and probably Paul, knew way more about Alex's nefarious activities than anyone could guess. I think Alex knew they had more damaging information. And I think killing them was purely self-serving.
AM is a lying, manipulative, self-serving sociopath Just MY opinion. I saw no genuine remorse. It was all an ACT. He's exactly where he belongs - behind bars!
I’m sure they did since she had hired a forensic accountant to go through their finances after check’s wrote to various charities had bounced. That was how she found out there was financial issues going on, she was contacted by these charities instead of Alex.
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Thank you so much Chris.
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Felt very sorry for the Judge on this case, apparently he’d buried his own son two weeks prior, following an illness, it must have been so hard having Alec in front of him every day, knowing HE TOOK his sons life. Very professional, and I really admired him not standing down from taking this case . God bless him and his family. 🙏💐
😢Amen God Bless You Judge 🙏🙏
I'm so sorry for the Judges loss of his son. 😪🙏🙏🙏🙏
Judges sons death was sudden heart attack at 40 years old. He was an attorney also. His eyes teared up when he said to AM "you must have loved your son very much"
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I Agree.I felt the same for Judge Newman🙏😪
@@Barb417 😥😥😥
Mark Tinsley is what got me HOOKED on the Murdaugh murders . His testimony was riveting ! No matter how hard the defense tried to corner him it was never going to happen . Respect him immensely
The boat crash that took that poor girls life was what finally took him down. Had that not happened he’d still be manipulating and stealing from unfortunate people that trusted him.
I could listen to Mark Tinsley talk ALL DAY. His testimony was the BEST part of the entire trial and he explained the motive PERFECTLY!
I agree! I have listened to his testimony a couple of times already
Gosh he was intelligent
Very patient and honest
I think that if they didn't have Paul's phone, Alex would have gotten off. His phone was the key. Talk about karma.
totally agree paula
The video on Paul's own phone sealed the deal / convicted his father for brutally murdering him and his mother.
If this isn't sweet revenge in typical Murdaugh style, I don't know what is.
Smart*ss Alex assumed if he blew his sons brains out, and gunned down his wife, he'd never get caught.
For someone with a bad reputation as his, he isn't too bright.
Yes. Not that I wish Alec would have gotten off, I have to say why in the hell, did he not take Maggie's and Paul's phones, and destroy them both, with a hammer, and then dispose of the pieces. This has baffled me.
I wonder why he didn’t try to dispose of Paul’s phone like he did Maggie’s? That made me wonder!
@@elizabethjowell8405 Yes, I've always wondered about that myself. Not that I'd wished he would have gotten off, but I was surprised he didn't just destroy both phones, like with a hammer, and then disposed of them somewhere in the ditch or the swamp or whatever. He obviously didn't, and that was the break that got the conviction for Alan Wilson, Creighton Waters, John Meadors, and all the rest of the state's prosecution team. That one video on Paul's phone was the straw that broke the camel's back for Alex Murdaugh.
Mark Tinsley showed why he makes the big bucks. When he pulled out that court order from his jacket pocket on the stand, you knew that cross was over.
Correct, Also his Business is gonna go thru the Roof !!
I was dying when he said "oh you want to see the court order, i have it right here" and pulled it out the breast pocket LIKE A BOSS
Imagine killing your own son and wife to make a legal case go away and prevent exposure on financial crimes.
@@hellpoint7534 Sick!
@@hellpoint7534 Anthony Todt did the same for the same reason
Mr Tinsley was one of the most stand out witnesses of that trial 🙌🏻 he was going to take on Alex despite his power in that community to get justice for the Beech family. A good man.
I watched Mark Tinsley’s testimony. He made it crystal clear that Alex’s financial crimes were directly related to the murders of Maggie and Paul. I was so impressed with Mark’s tenacity and that he would not be intimidated or shaken off his testimony.
I’m guessing Maggie refused to refinance Moselle property
He's an awesome person .. and great at his job. And I don't even know him. But you can tell
Thank goodness for Mark Tinsley, this courageous, decent, and honest lawyer.
Handsome
I never believed the addiction thing. Just an excuse.
I agree
Most drug attic’s that I’ve ever saw are really skinny! And look sickly! Alex looked pretty corn fed at the time to me.
No, he was addicted to opiates for years.
There is far too much evidence showing it. Maggie and Paul texts, Blanca knew, his brother knew, and most importantly; the rehab and detox clinics released his blood work which proved it. Even Creighton Waters confirmed it in court.
You may have something there mate.....
@@earlcaudill2897 some drug addicts are bloated by oxy’s because they get so constipated. He was a drug abuser not an addict.
Think about this, if the Beach family hadn't hired Mr. Tinsley to go after Alex, none of this would have been brought to light.🔦💡
If Alex Murdaugh told me what time it is, I'd have to go find a clock. Nothing coming out is his mouth is true.
Edit: if ANY Murdaugh.....
THE WAY ALEX M TRIED TO IMPLICATE ANOTHER TEEN IN THE BOAT ACCIDENT WAS REPREHENSIBLE.
But none of them should have been in boat, can’t blame Paul and family for their own choice / free will to go on it with Timmy
@@coderider3022 am afraid I agree with you. Those kids have all stated Paul was too impaired to drive the boat - so none of them should've been on that boat - clearly. Doesn't stop Paul's liability though
I disagree- Paul and the Cook boy where taking turns at the wheel. They all knew Paul very well , they knew he had a drinking problem, and the fact he had a personality disorder. A dangerous one! Plus ALL the kids were drinking, that says a lot about their families. And they are accountable for getting in that boat!
@@sweetsummerrain what does it say about their families??
The other boy was taking the wheel from time to time. At least when Paul was not capable. The other kids in the boat said that. But that does not make him responsible. I just wish he had taken over the wheel.
I believe one of the bigger boys could have shut his mouth and sit him down.
Unfortunately neither did.
Rest in piece Mallory ♥️
Mark Tinsley seems like a rock solid lawyer and grounded individual. My favorite commment was when he described Murdaugh at one point as a "well oiled stealing machine".
Maggie was already living on her own at the Edisto Beach House 95% of the time, plus she had consulted with a divorce lawyer.
It's no surprise that Alec had her on the hit list for many months before the murders.
Mr. Tinsley is a Hero!… in my opinion… he’s brilliant!!
They say Tinsley is the only lawyer, not afraid of the Murdaugh's.
That’s because the evil ones will throw one of the team members under the bus, to throw off attention to the rest of them.
Very informative interview. I love it when the interviewer actually lets the interviewee talk. Great job.
I would almost bet you that a discussion about a divorce between Maggie, Paul, and Alec had taken place that day, that night, or a few days before this incident.
Mark Tinsley was incredible on the stand. Clear concise and gave the jury a great example of what a truthful confident lawyer should look like. It was also cool to see lawyers sparing another lawyer on the stand! I normally feel uncomfortable watching a lawyer cross a witness. It was fun to see then hold their own and be clever!
Moselle was owned solely by Maggie. Her wedding ring was under the seat in the car and she wasn't living with Alex at the time. She knew he was lying about the finances and she was heading toward divorce. She didn't want to go to Moselle when Alex asked her to come. His premise was that they were going to go and visit his dad, yet he didn't take Maggie with him to his parents house. Maggie and Paul were about to become his biggest financial liability and Alex only cared about Alex. Without Moselle Alex's line of credit with the bank would dissolve as well.
Yup
You’re so right!
You hit the nail on the head 👍🏻
@Super Dave 💯💯💯
There's no evidence that Maggie was divorcing Alex. Believe me , if they had it, it would have been introduced in court.
@@stacychandler9296 There's also zero evidence that she "wasn't living with him," either. Her own sister testified that Maggie always preferred the beach over the "great outdoors" type of lifestyle, but that she took part in those activities because she wanted to spend time with her family. There was also testimony to the fact that Maggie always had Bubba with her whenever she went to spend the night at the beach house. Since she didn't take Bubba with her that day, it's pretty hard to believe that she had intended to stay there over night, and that Alex "lured" her back to Moselle.
Alex: whoever did this thought about this for a long time.... Total Freudian slip
I could listen to Tinsley talk all day! What an intelligent and great lawyer he is! Wish there was a continuation of this video. Prayers for MT’s health!
Mark Tinsley is my all time FAVORITE. I love his integrity. Amazing! ❤❤❤❤
I also admire Eric Bland.
Just like the book to kill a mockingbird
Me too 😍 🙋
Prayers for Mark and his continued health .
Mark Tinsely is literally one of the people in this case that keeps me from losing all hope in humanity in general. Sure there are others but he really demonstrated supreme ethics with his actions ! He is an excellent person who was not intimidated by this nightmare of a family and he did what was right.
This is a lawyer I can truly respect.Go after them all, all the enablers Mr. Tinsley.
You are a wonderful interviewer-quiet, intelligent, and giving people the floor. Your interest really seems to be in the subject matter and guest, and not as the overpowering ‘star of the show’. Rare for online. Greatly appreciated. Subscribed.👍
I am actually not surprised. When he talked about their murders during questioning he only ever seemed remorseful/upset about Paul. Maggie always seemed like an afterthought. Like “Oh yeah, her too.”
Mark tinsley is the lawyer we all need but hardly any of us can afford lol.
This is the best interview ive seen about this Murdaugh mess! Thank you 😊
Two fine, fine, classy men. Much love to you both, and may you both be blessed always.
Thank you -
I never believed he was addicted, either nor that he consumed massive numbers of pills daily. My sister was an addict and his behavior doesn't jive with real addiction.
Be definitely had drug behavior
I agree. That’s a cover.
@@kathleengehrman5754 I agree.
His jail calls made me realize he’s deff an addict
Odd that the law firm overlooked Alex's shenanigans until they caught on to the fact that he was also stealing from them.🤔
I felt some of the associates and staff testified to cover their own a$$es.
Indeed. I spoke with a SC attorney. She said everyone in law knows you don't EVER write a check to Forge. It works the other way....Forge writes checks out to clients.
Plus they got most all those victims paid off in a hurry and changed the name of the law firm!!
Good point.
For sure
I think Alex's father was probably a SUPER A-HOLE, was at the hospital after the boat crash intimidating victims, protected Alex all his life...created the ENTITLEMENT ATTITUDE
Someone needs to conduct a case study on Alex. It’s fantastical his way of thinking, the entitlement, greed, and murderous impulses. I believe we could learn so much from this case, not only to gain an understanding of why he thought the way he did, but to maybe find ways to prevent tragedies like this from happening in the future. This case was bananas!
No matter how much effort we place upon getting to the root of fantastical thinking and the other traits of killers, serial and others, it won't make a difference because, unfortunately, we only get to these minds AFTER a dastardly deed!!! No chance before.
It's kinda complicated but not. The dude got away with everything got whatever he wanted grew up rich. There is the entitled attitude, he prob thought its not stealing if I pay it back before they try to get it out. He had a stay at home wife and 2 kids and properties he had to keep up with so he just poured out too much milk than his glass could hold. And at the point when he had all the pressure on himself and what was going on with paul and rumorably his wife. He convinced himself he would be saving Paul from jail and his health. And maggie he couldn't face his wife leaving and she would be better off watching over paul. The prosecution said it best it was all about Alex.. They can be disposable he's the one he cares about. But that also doesn't mean he didn't love his family he prob did. That's prob why paul was to the head it was spos to be fast and painless.and I think him saying they did him so bad. Was him admitting it was spos to be fast and painless and over. And maggie being executed was to put her out of her misery. Both to me looking at how they were shot was cowardly he couldn't look them in the eyes.
You’ll gain nothing. He didn’t kill them. You can study the flight of worms but you won’t learn anything because worms don’t fly. Your interest is in all the fabrications and dramatizations created by an ecosystem of true crime hype.
@@snickers882 I agree, Paul was likely supposed to be fast and painless and over, but he messed up the shot and the second shot had a ghastly result. I'm not entirely sure he loved Maggie all that deeply, they were married a long time and she was apparently suspicious of him.
It's called EVIL...There is nothing new under the sun
Mr Tinsley, both as a witness and in this interview gave me the clearest picture of what actually happened and why.
Very impressed with Mark Tinsley’s testimony. Professional, concise, and pointed.👍🏻
Mark, you were a work of art on the stand!!!! I could listen to you talk about the case all day!!! Your dedication to your clients shines through!!! I have been around attorneys all of my life and worked in the Public Defenders Office in the 7th Judicial Circuit and I know of some attorneys who do their jobs because they want t o make sure that everyone's rights are protected. And there are a few who do it because it pays the bills. But every once in a while, you come across someone like you. The compassion, the hunger to see the right things done in the end, and the satisfaction of helping people who aren't able to help themselves can't be hidden!!!! SC is extremely blessed to have you fighting for the right thing!!!!!
I’d seen him talk before and he was very good….on the stand I thought he was very prickly, overtly so. He let the lawyers get to him. He did drop his attitude towards the end though
Yes totally believe the addiction problem was all fabricated for another gain of sympathy. He stated he was so paranoid yet didn't get cameras on his property?
I think it was a point to have Maggie and Paul there that night. They had become a liability to Alex because of the boat case and Maggie divorcing him. IMO
My opinion of which I'm sure doesn't but I will state it anyway. Alex felt he had no choice but to get rid of Maggie. He knew she had seen an attorney about divorcing him. A divorce would mean a deeper dive into his indiscretions. I think Alex involvement into other unsavory finicial matters would come out if she divorced him. Maggie was not wearing her wedding ring the night she was murdered. Balonca found it under the driver's seat while cleaning Maggie's car after SLED released it. I feel Alex's evils are much deeper than anyone could anticipate.
Man, I enjoyed that interview. And God bless you, Mark Tinsley. I hope you can beat this cancer problem.
I honestly believe he killed Paul because of the boat accident revealing so many things. I think he was angry at Paul but, he knew he would have to kill Maggie so he wouldn't have to answer to her. She seemed very protective of her boys.
Having worked in pharmacy for 37 years, no way was he taking as many oxycodone as he claims and NO WAY his family would not have known it.
What if Paul were facing imminent jail time. What would he and Maggie have done to circumvent such?
@@wasfazed I think he was too worried about all his dirty dealings. I don't think he was concerned with Paul or he wouldn't have shot him.
His family knew.
Thank you for confirming my observation
He would have died 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Thank you Mr Tinsley . I pray for good health for you.
GOD'S HEALING POWER TO LAWYER TINSLEY. 4/22/23.
Mark Tinsley was brilliant in his testimony. Not fazed one bit by the defence team. ❤😊
Mark Tinsley notices EVERYTHING which is honestly pretty rare for most men. That hypervigilance is what makes Mark so effective. He’s just brilliant!
My question is: how could this bookkeeper/CEO/office manager, and a lawyer treasurer NOT CATCH THE EMBEZZLEMENT OVER 10 YEARS?
I wondered the same thing, unless everyone was complicit. How do you get past an audit? How do you balance the books? Where was the IRS?
Good question, raises my eyebrows 🤔
Same here.
They all got a piece. They just turned against him when the time came
@@Iamsam-jl5fn I think you’re right!
AM strikes me more as a dealer personality than just an addict.
You nailed it.
I agree.. I do think he used but not as much as he claims.. I think he sold to teens and rich people that didn't want to go to the streets or asked their own doctors..
Exactly!! He doesn’t co-own parcels of land on two islands in and around the coast of SC with another shady character… I heard this on a podcast like this. Not in some gossip magazine. I don’t remember the name… it’s someone that AM has worked with or knew and I believe it’s a name we have all heard.
You are a hero Mark Tinsley! Prayers to you and your family from Ohio!
There is no way he'd require millions of dollars on an opioid addiction. He could have bought a pharmaceutical plant to manufacture them.
Why didn’t they call a drug specialist at the trial.
SERIOUSLY!!!!
Why didn't who call one?
Good point
The judge was admirable. What a decent man.
Mark Tinsley is one of the few lawyers who is not and was not impressed or intimidated by the Murdough name.
Yesss! Exactly 💯
Alex said he’s innocent of murdering his family, why isn’t he screaming and demanding to find out who the killers are ? He’s just getting on with life, even in jail he’ll be pulling the strings. He never mentions their names in the phone conversations.
Memories of O.J....
I know...smells of guilt to me!
He even talked at length abt gambling winnings. The lack of use of their names is a psychological trick to distance himself from what most would call the unthinkable
When I saw Maggie's sister testify that alex said whoever did this was planning it for a long time, I thought the exact same thing...
Mark Tinsley is one of my favorite people in this world. He is brilliant, charismatic and a Cracker Jack lawyer!
I think he was worried his wife would divorce him at some point and take him to the cleaners. Also Paul's law suit was going to put a strain on finances as well. They were barriers to be disposed of.
Maggie went to see a divorce lawyer, so maybe in a small town someone told him.
As a former addict I was doing the highest MG opiates all day every day and I couldn’t do that amount in a week. I don’t believe him
He was dealing it.. from a prior Coke dealer.. I did a kilo a week 😅
l'm not sure what his amount was but personally l was taking 6 40mg of Oxy's a day 4 - 40mg of morphine tabs. 1- 100 mg of Fentynll patches every other day. 6 mg zanex (2mg.handle bars) and 20 mg of Ambien. I was once told by an emergency Doctor that l was on the Ultimate cocktail. And he couldn't believe l was alive. I"m alive today because l went off of all of it and Thank God l did.😊❤
@@jasontanner5894we aren’t talking about coke tho- he has/had a heroin /oxy problem.
Ya cuz I'm a former addict and that amount would killed me or he would overdosed at least
So if Alex addiction was so bad there would've been many other clinical signs. For instance, withdrawal signs, verbal outbursts, tremors, sleep issues, other substance abuse, inconsistencies in professional performance just to name a few. I really believe that his supposed drug problem was an act.
Did you not listen to the whole trial? The man was shi**ing his pants when withdrawing..
The one truth was him coming clean about drug use. I have had it in my family and it was years before they quit. You talk to doctors , lawyers , Judges and everyday people. Vivitrol has been on the market for at least 10 years or more. Probably what Trump wanted to stop opioid use and his admin had this made a shot once a month. It’s sad that doctors are scared to give it but Washington rights the scrip.
@@rbzy11.11 ….or so he said…..
@@kfry9176 actually, his brother said..
@@rbzy11.11 you believe him ??
I hope Mark Tinsley health stays good. He's a wonderful man and a lawyer I would want
What's sad is Mallory Beach never got justice and neither did her family!!
They got a nice settlement at least
I mean kinda, sadly her death was the final straw on the camels back and everything came tumbling down after that sure the kid never even walked into a jail his mug shot was taken outside the courthouse if it were anything else the merdoughs would’ve swept it under the rug like everything else
Replay crew. Judge Newman was right, Mark Tinsley is a “tiger”. He’s uncovered all of AM’s financial crimes and didn’t back down. Thank you so much Chris for bringing us such a great guest. 💙
Thank you Mr. Tinsley. You have restored my faith in the Justice System. ❤🙏🌹
Alex was so sure the law would believe his account of the murders because he WAS the law in Hampton County.
I believe he never thought they would go so far as to indict him.
He was always protected by his name and his father and wasn't accustomed to suffering any consequences.
100%. He was literally above the law.
They have been scratching one another’s backs for going on 100 YEARS. The roots that grow over that period are SO DEEP and FAR REACHING that he had no reason to believe he couldn’t get away with it. There is SO MUCH corruption in this case. With all of the financial things, I believe MANY MORE will likely get dragged down with him.
His addiction problem is BS. There is no way, unless he was taking Fentanyl, that he was doing opioids in excess like he said. It’s been IMPOSSIBLE to get your hands on pills in that amount since 2013. Trump further decimated opioids under his presidency.
I'm sure he thought they would just sweep it under the rug like everything else.
I agree, he thought he had this
I have always felt that the addiction story was BS. That he was trying to use that also for sympathy and excuses.
When was the last time a drug dealer took checks? Me personally never lol.
@@snickers882 🤣 nope
MR. TINSLEY I RESPECT YOU SO MUCH. YOUR GOOD CHARACTER IS OBVIOUS. GOD BLESS YOU AND I WILL PRAY FOR YOUR CONTINUED GOOD HEALTH.
I really struggle to believe NO ONE had an inkling of an idea this guy was stealing. I do believe more arrests should be made. Unpopular opinion
Oh my heavens, many many people were being paid behind closed doors.
This was not a one man circus.
Too many crooks
Popular opinion.
That is something I fail to understand. How could this man have been trusted this far? I do believe Murdaugh thought he was untouchable because of his name. Killing your wife, and especially your son, just seems so unbelievable, but again we know it happens.
No way he took 60 oxycodone a day…..that would kill an elephant
I've worked with addicts who've taken that much in a single day. However, they're incoherent and stumbling over themselves
probably rot your stomach out too
A retired RN here. A lot of factors come into play, not just the AMOUNT. How many milligrams (strength) for one. If he was taking 60 - 20 mg oxy's, he surely cculd act normal especially if his body is used to taking that many over 20 years.
@@Balletcalvero yes they are and no way he could function as an attorney or even drive……Just a blatant lie from him….cant believe prosecution didnt question this more…..
@@Trish-fv7ck 1) he couldnt afford taking that many every day to get that tolerance and 2) couldnt find that many to take everyday without drawing MAJOR law enforcement….
Seems the whole family was a bunch of crooks
I loved Mr. Tinsley's testimony, particularly the bit about not going into the defense team's imaginary world. That might've been my favorite bit of testimony in the whole thing.
Even Maggie has done shady stuff. The way she talk about the maid, that's worked for them and practically raised the son. She is obviously annoyed that she is dying on their steps. Who else recognized that??
Been saying that from the. beginning. IMO, the whole darn family has some big black stains on their souls. Just my thoughts.
Me.
She seemed very suspect, to me - of having her own hands in AM's nefarious dealings. Her friends' acquaintances spoke of her egotistic materialism. Her greed and complicity in AH's dealings sadly came at a price. I think she became a liability when she finally wanted out and Paul not cow-towing to Daddy's whims and aligning with Maggie sealed his death sentence. So very sad. I'm grateful the monster is behind bars.
@@mary-annkucher4221 - where is all this info about Maggie coming out? I watched some of the trial later on but didn’t pY much attention in the beginning. I’d love to know more about her.. where’s all this about her coming from?
Maybe Maggie pushed her down.
Anyone else find it odd that Alex has not once said “I hope they find who really did this” or any other similar sentiment
OJ never said anything like that either
He said anyone who did this has been planning it for a long time!!!
THAT'S SO SAD HOW A DAD GETS RID OF HIS OWN FLESHING BLOOD. HIS SON, THATS THE WORST CRIME SOMEONE CAN DO.
Not the first time a parent has taken their own flesh and blood, and unfortunately, it wasn’t the last. It’s beyond me. I’d die for my kids, do anything for them to not be harmed….then there are people like Alex!
Desperate people do desperate things unfortunately but how a family man can blow his sons brains out is beyond comprehension‼️
I agree. I am still not convinced he did it
@Lesdan - He’s psychopath/sociopath. We aren’t wired like him and will never understand him. Read the book The Psychopath Next Door if you can.
This case was truly fascinating - I found myself glued to every detail!
I never believed the drug stories either….great interview with Mark! 👍
Mark Tinsely is a man of integrity - the kind I'd like to see in leadership. I'd vote for him.
Mark you were awesome on the stand just loved it when you pulled the paperwork from you jacket that was brilliant. I’m in Australia watching court case everyday.
Haha that was great whennhe did that😮😅
She was doing to divorce him, and the financials would have revealed his thefts and frauds. He thought he would get away with it
He had gotten away with his decit for so long that he would continue with his deceit.
No one ruined Alex‘s life but him. Rest in peace, Maggie and Paul.
Thank you Mark Tinsley for standing up for principle!
I hope you are doing better health wise.People need people like you. Im stage 4 and was told i had 6 months ( 2 years ago) .Do NOT give up or listen to negativity.
I agree being a recovering addict myself. He didn’t talk like a addict. The very first time I heard him say that. I knew he was lying.
Me too. Just a pathetic excuse.
@@MsTygame ooo😂99999
Mark Tinsley is a superior, intelligent and credible lawyer polished with integrity and intuition. I'm not a lawyer, but when Alec stated, "Whoever did this thought about it a long time," I drew certainty that he did it, Why? Because we only know how WE think. We cannot determine how someone else thinks, I appreciate Murdaugh sharing his thoughts with the court, et al!
And that there was hate in their heart...that was the other statement from Alex that got me thinking same thing as u.
Prayers for Mark’s health. Glad he looks so good and hopefully he continues to be improving.
She was going to be a victim or a witness and he could not tolerate the later. Plus he'd probably heard she was consulting a divorce attorney, which would have led to a rigorous financial examination - one of three crashing down on him.
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If Alex was addicted he would’ve been a bit thinner.. this guy has not missed a single Meal.
Not true. My best friend was physically addicted to Percocet. She was extremely overweight for several years.
Yeah I’d love to know more about his “addiction”.
And his bowels would've ruptured from constipation and he would've been really ill from peritonitis.
He tested POSITIVE at rehab for opiods and benzos.
@@marygoff3332 Said whom?
Another great man in this case, the judge. No corruption here..prayers are with you and your family on the lost of your beautiful son.
Happy to know they still have great men in this corrupt world..Thank you Mark.Tinsley .
I think Alex was a drug dealer not a user.
I think he was BOTH
That’s exactly what I think too
The Judge was a gentleman and compassionate.Not an easy task when dealing with a Monster like he had to every day.GOD Bless Him!!🙏🙏
Judge Newman also presided over the Nathaniel Rowland trial....the man who murdered Samantha Josephson when she mistook him for her Uber driver. He was just as measured and professional as he was in the Murdaugh case.
The " your family, and you have sent people to death row for less" was AWESOME 💘
@@maryb6872 and that poor judge had just buried his own son 😢
The formidable Mr Tinsley. You are a force for justice.
I watched Mark's testimony a million times if I watched it once. His composure on the stand was epic! It was so obvious how well he knew Alec and how shifty Alec is. Really, really good.
He killed Maggie because he knew she was going to leave him. That's why the passionate overkill that he performed on her.... Paul was just extra baggage.
Mark Tinsley is so badass. When he got on the stand he put it all together with one sentence. He said if a vigilante came along and killed Paul and Maggie, the boat case against Alex goes away for me that was the defining moment
Leah Brandon, Right on!! I bin followin this from very early and the minute this man got on the stand, then said "no one tells me what to do"! I thought, Badass straightshooter.!! Have not changed my mind since. A decent human, who got some closure and costs for Mallory's Mum an Dad. He's a "Good Soul". 👍😊
@@woofersagainstviolence5349 Amen! "Would you like to see the order?" Whips it out...😂 He was spectacular. One of the truly good guys here.
@@BFProductionsLLC Yep, definately a decent human. And ethical lawyer which is rare nowadays. 😊
@@woofersagainstviolence5349 and his cut.
@@martharoark4059 Not every one can be magnanimous, like you probably are Martha. 😊
I don't believe for a second that Alex murdered Maggie and Paul to protect her/them from litigation or legal repercussions or anything else for that matter. He's a sociopath. They do what they do to protect themselves, their own interests, or egos. He thought it would mean less trouble for himself. And I do think Maggie, and probably Paul, knew way more about Alex's nefarious activities than anyone could guess. I think Alex knew they had more damaging information. And I think killing them was purely self-serving.
So true.
AM is a lying, manipulative, self-serving sociopath Just MY opinion. I saw no genuine remorse. It was all an ACT. He's exactly where he belongs - behind bars!
Agreed
@@mary-annkucher4221 He belongs underground - but I get your point and agree.
I’m sure they did since she had hired a forensic accountant to go through their finances after check’s wrote to various charities had bounced. That was how she found out there was financial issues going on, she was contacted by these charities instead of Alex.
Mr Tinsley...... I always want you on my team 😂🎉...... You are amazing... your humility and strength..... Sending love from England ❤