Norman Finkelstein has been abused for decades for his views on the Palestinian/Israel conflict. I know he will be remembered for his contribution on human rights.
Explain better, Palestinians have no right to express their rage about the treatment Israel imposed on them? Do Jews have no right to feel and express rage for Holocaust ?
Both him and Cornell West lost their tenure. The Zionists are powerful and extremely wicked. Their tentacles control large portions of the mainstream media and social media.
@@inacioserralheiro2604 Explain better. Expressing rage not against their former German oppressors, but by occupying the country of Palestine and ethnically cleansing the weakest people in the Middle East? That doesn't even make sense!
Finkelstein is a man who could've gotten with the program and lived a life of unwarranted prestige and unlimited financial comfort, like much of his ivy league contemporaries. Instead, he unwaveringly said the truth, he was fair and principled, and never relented even in the face of great personal and professional harm. This is a man who was attacked constantly and smeared in academic circles by zionist organizations to the point he was denied tenure (often considered a major achievement in an academic's life). My respect for him is boundless. I hope he can take comfort in the fact that his struggle and his sacrifice and his legacy will not be forgotten.
At this point being appreciated by the people, the oppressed and the poor should be the crown that shows real kings. The other can keep their titles to themselves, some of us are nto ready to sell their souls.
it's a cancelled culture now no more moral right and wrong if you don't fit the narratives you're instantly attacked and your life can be ruined immediately that's lots of people don't speak out who have the same opinions like Norman. We need more brave people speaking out for justice regardless what skin colors you are. COMPASSION, FAIRNESS, JUSTICE ARE A MORAL COMPASS FOR ONE'S CONSCIOUSNESS!
I can't beIieve how ignorant and truIy bIind so many are. The rest who side against Palestine, yes, are heartless and have no souIs. I cannot imagine a heII worse than being imprisoned in Gaza. 😢
@@romelleabdulaleem283 I'll just do 5-10 minutes and move on. There's so much to take in. I prefer to avoid melting my brain. There are others who've been through a lot as well. Guys like Aaron Mate and Max Blumenthal haven't, but from what you're saying, their tone will become more shrill if they hang out in more conflict zones. Dan Cohen seems to get himself in the trenches. He's ok. I think the grayz boys partake of the gange weed a bit. Finklestein should consider it...
This interview didn't just teach me about Gaza, it changed my entire worldview. Why do genocides happen again and again? Because most people can't recognize one as it's happening. The amount of evil pervading every aspect of this modern world when you scratch below the surface, is sickening.
First of all before the attacks Israel I had no idea that it’s actually the MOST densely populated area on earth. However, as I look at the pictures of headless infants and in one instance twins who were burned alive appeared to have died holding each other 😭 I wasn’t able to look at anything else after those twins. Now then, it seems like it was announced that Israel had the right to defend himself. I know of no other country who needed to be told that! Gaza is a mess of humanity. No question. Why isn’t there something under way relocating the citizens of Gaza? It’s going to happen after the war is over anyway! Hamas has been trying to eradicate Israel for many years now. They are sworn to eradicate Israel from the face of the earth down to the last of themselves and their suicide attacks against Israel. All war has come from a last resort. But quite like WWII? Once we were attacked, what choice did we have? I’m not trying to start an argument here but I believe both sides need to be heard to make an informed decision about what is right and wrong here.
The essence of bigoted hatred is the unwillingness to imagine or believe the despised nation experiences the same emotions, loves and needs as the bigot.
"Because most people can't recognize one as it's happening" You are wrong. I saw it happening for many years, I can see it happening now. The ignorant ones are indoctrinated with propaganda by our evil news organizations on TV.
It's sickening regardless if you are religious or not. It's sad that religion is used 99,9 % to conduct a genicide, which has happened over and over again. And in over 90 % of the cases it's always the non-white people who have to suffer .:(
I’ve been listening to Norman Finkelstein for a long time. I remember when I saw his debate with Alan Dershowitz on “Democracy Now” and was impressed by his courage and passion. He made a fool out of Dershowitz and proved to the whole world that zionists lie about everything and they unfortunately have a massive support from both the media and the politicians which means that their talking points are being presented as truth. Norman has really sacrificed a lot for the Palestinian cause and he deserves the utmost respect. Greetings from Sweden.
It's so disheartening that the oppressors have so much support, even though many of them will openly claim support for other humanitarian and socially progressive causes.
Agreed though I'm sure he would say his sacrifices pale next to those who have died for Palestinian freedom, even as he devoted 40 years to researching and publishing the truth
Massive support from media are you serious? Mainstream media parrot everything Hamas says and cry about every "poor civilian" that gets blown up because Hamas decided to dig tunnels under their house.
This has got to be, by far, the most intelligent discussion on the topic of Palestine and Israel that I have ever heard in my life. I'm very grateful to have been privileged to listen to it.
Incredible. It's been a privilege to listen to these 53 minutes of Norman's amazing analysis, the history of struggle, and why, wherever there's injustice, there's always resistance, which must be understood, not condemned.
I am sure you are referring to the pain of the 224 hostages kidnapped from their homes and families. Or perhaps the suffering of the woman who were raped. Or maybe, just maybe, the suffering of the babies who were beheaded. Because after all, as you said, you just have to be human to feel the suffering of other people.
@@jaykay7180 there is no evidence of women being raped that day, none. It is an IDF claim, but lacks evidence. There were no 40 babies beheaded, that was disproved many days ago. You forget to mention the palestini women in israeli jails that are held without charge, and are being raped and tortured as a matter of fact. You demand compassien for non existing beheaded babies, yet do not mention the schildren that DID die during that incident.,, and you completely ignore the far over 2000 dead children in Gaza.. Do you think bomb shrapnel and falling buildings do not cause suffering? You never mention what Israeli children learn in school.. To hate arabs and pity secular jews. To kill arabs, and take them as slaves. Do you really mean that living a free life in a lovely city, and being born to live inside a prison makes people equal? And.. you do not mention that there was little to no firing of weapons oct 7th until IDF showed up and killed israeli and Hamas without a care of their own people. And still.. yes we do feel for those israeli who died and suffered that day.. but not more, or before those palestinians who had much worse done to them.
Chris Hedges is where I go to seek clarity, it's been this way since Occupy Wall Street. His books have single handedly changed my mind to be critical of all aspects of our culture and the rhetoric used by politicians and mainstream media. He has affirmed the moral direction of my heart and set the intellectual stage of my life. I am SO grateful Hedges interviewed Finklestein. This is extremely valuable content. Thank you, and please, Chris, if you see this... know that you've shaped lives in such a positive way and we NEED you more than ever to continue these interviews and to continue digging for the truth. Thank you. ❤️❤️
Rosa Parks once said: "There is only so much hurt, disappointment, and oppression one can take... The line between reason and madness grows thinner." I shared this quote today on another channel, and it's come back to haunt me. I'm trying to write about the horrific events of October 7th. Now I realize the two roads in front of me and which one to take to successfully write and get my piece published. The only road leads to a deep philosophical look at condemnation and why we must shut out the noise, condemnation and censorship, (some of my posts have suffered, for the first time ever), of when condemnation is and isn't appropriate. Thank you, Chris for your endless illumination and a special blessed gratitude to Mr. Finkelstein for lighting the tunnel I was in. I can see clearly now.
Unfortunately for the good people of Israel, it has been Netanyahu's Modus Operandi to hold on to power by tactically Gaslighting the good people of Israel and inciting the enmity towards Israel and the fear of good people throughout the world.
I’ve heard Norman Finkelstein many times but this discussion with Chris Hedges reveals him at his most measured, thoughtful, humble and inspiring. Thank you Chris.
I am commenting from Nigeria, Africa. I can only appreciate the kind of Journalism that Mr Chris Hedges and The Real News Network Do. Mr Norman Finkelstein, a deep appreciation to you again and again.
Don't forget the on denominator to all this: US empire US = empire by denial/deception - Immerwahr ...using proxies (Israel,Apatheid South Africa,Germany,Japan,Saudi, France,Ukraine,etc), pawns & patsies
Thank you Mr Hedges for having Norman Finkelstein on your show. I’m so grateful that both you and Mr Finkelstein exist and are willing to share what you know with the world. God bless you both.
Thank you Chris Hedges for giving Norman Finkelstein the space and time to make his carefully constructed argument on behalf of Palestinian rights. Norman Finkelstein is the best and most compelling voice on this subject. Many thanks to you both.
I totally agree with your observation. Chris, who is also brilliant, subordinated his own ego to allow his guest the scope to deliver his cogent observations.
This is one of the best interviews on Palestine I have heard. He explains my feelings perfectly; better than I could explain/understand. I can't express how grateful I am.
Bravo, Chris. I think this was the most moving conversation about what is happening in Palestine right now that I've ever witnessed. Nuance and moral clarity in the news media is in less than short supply. This program is what some of us have been aching for. We have needed just one person, from somewhere, to describe what Palestinian reality is and the why's of their actions. Norman Finkelstein is the clarifying voice. He's done all the research and has engaged in deep thought about the issues, as well as made profound sacrifices for his truth. Thank you both from a grateful North American.
The comparison to the slave uprisings in the US has a lot of merit. Unfortunately most people in the US have no idea how terribly Israel has treated the Palestinians since their country started. They ask "What do the Palestinians want?" Because they have been brainwashed into believing through mass media and their own churches and even high schools that Israel can never be wrong. Period. Thanks as always Chris.
Respectfully, I must ask, have you had your head under a rock. Israel is under constant scrutiny in the U.S. for decades. If Israel sneezes the wrong way, the media is on it. As for schools, they are infected with a one-sided agenda. I grant you, this was not the case decades ago, but today you are absolutely wrong. Most churches have gone woke. The fundamentalists are pro-Israel but other than that, Christians are quite willing to criticize Israel...and as for the secular Jews which are in effect the majority of Jews in America, they examine the Palestinian issue in a way that no other group imo would. It's rare when a group is at war, under attack, and/or has land disputes with others, that they even reflect on what might be the underlying issues. The war in Ukraine could have been prevented and resulted from years of terrible U.S. leadership. Notice how in the first months of the war, almost no one dissented or took the time to look at both sides. This is typical. Secular Jews constantly examine their issues--you are in error about this. It's not a matter that Israel can never be wrong. As is the case with all democracies that have a myriad of issues, people tend to look at the big picture at the expense of nuance. Far more nuance when it comes to Israel and what you say, the opposite is true. Israel is the only western power that gets constant examination. My problem with this is that other countries should be examined with the same frequency.
@@benyahudadavidl i am not unaware that the human species originated in Africa. What's the next racist style question? Yes King Solomon was dark but comely. If your a christian... What exactly is YOUR beef.
So glad to see this. Like Norman I'm a student of abolitionist and other radical liberation movements in US history. Since the "40 babies" claim started I have talked about Nat Turner's rebellion and how they even killed children. And I've told people this was a tragedy that was the fault of the slave owning class. No one can imprison, starve, torture people and then critique their most extreme resistance out of context. I'm sad to say many "both sides are equally bad" people have told me no Nat Turner and Hamas must be condemned. They just won't see that puts them on the slaveholders side. It's so sad to see these monstrous stories of deluded supporters of injustice in the name of moderation. It's so heartening to see Norman saying something like what I've been saying. A minor note: The men John Brown beheaded were part of violent pro slave brigades so only "civilians" in a technical sense. It's worth thinking about that in other contexts too. Israel has a policy of moving the most militant zealous settlers near Gaza so while it's certain many innocent did die it's worth considering that just not being in the army doesn't always mean people don't take part in a war of oppressor and oppressed. It's often more complicated.
The Jews have certainly come full circle. Holocaust 1.0 was inflicted by others on the Jews. Holocaust 2.0 is now being inflicted by Jews on the 'others'. This will definitely not end well for Israeli people if they continue to ethnically cleanse another group of people. Who will be next after the Palestinians???
I came here to say the very same thing about John Brown. He did not execute the women or the children. He executed men who were friends and employees of Dutch Henry, a pro slavery zealot who gave meals, lodging and funds to Border Ruffians and other pro slavery militias who had spent the previous years brutalizing and killing abolitionists. The "massacre" was in reaction to the sacking of Lawrence KS, the provisional abolitionist capital of KS, not recognized by DC (the pro slavery capital was however.....interesting) and the near fatal beating of abolitionist Senator Charles Sumner, by southern pro slavery dandy/tough guy, Preston Brooks, cuz his feelings were hurt. It can be argued that Potawatamie was a legitimate military action. One must consider the source when we believe that John Brown killed innocents. I do not believe that he did.
Wow this was the best talk I’ve heard on this whole situation Norman said in defense of Hamas: “I find it very hard to condemn people who are born into a concentration camp, whatever they do, I can understand whatever they do, I can understand being driven mad.” I have chills
Thank you Chris Hedges for having such a scholar like Norman Finkelstein in your show who could articulately tell your audience the history of Gaza and its people.
@@davidgillette7109 Let us hope that majority of people are of good will - but only small percentage continue believing in the 'chosen by god' myth. Greetings!!!
@@davidgillette7109 I feel like that too but the truth is most of us are good, it’s mostly the people we give power to that destroy us as our systems are so corrupt selling to the highest bidder and war makes money for the ones with their hand in the pot. It will never change, so we have to find our bubbles of humanity and do what we can to not lose sight of the decency. Finkelstein has dedicated his life to this, as has Hedges. We have great decent teachers and there are many more. That’s the humanity to seek out and believe again.
*It's great to see Norman has returned. I wondered about his silence. I needed to hear from him and he has helped me process what I saw happening in Gaza. Some of us feel useless because we cannot help the Palestinian people and our politicians do not care enough. I feel defeated.*
You SHOULD NOT FEEL DEFEATED 💪. BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT!!! ALL GOOD PEOPLE ARE WITH YOU. WHEN YOU USE NON VIOLENCE TO BACK YOU UP, IT IS NOT HARD TO SEE THE EVIL OF OTHERS ❤🎉🎉😮. PEACE AND LOVE, PEOPLE
RIGHT!?! I get bored if a TikTok is longer than 2-3 minutes! This video was just under an hour (which it totally didn't feel like) and I didn't want it to end. I just discovered Mr.Finkelstein tonight, the first thing I saw was a clip of him pretty much telling a college student to quit the blubbering. 🤣 That clip was only 3 minutes and made me want to find out more about him, so this is the second video I've watched. Off to go find some more!
You'll enjoy his interview with Katie Halper then; it's over two hours long. He gives the actual words that Garrison wrote about the Nat Turner slave rebellion; incredibly powerful! Edit: She has several videos with him, but the other ones I looked at are excerpts from the long one.
At the GOP debate they approach this issue from trying to say anything the fastest and get a pat on the head, then not know who is getting criticized because they all said the same thing but painstakingly try to make them distinct, vs someone who is pre-emptively smeared because what he says is too distinct.
Thank God to hear the voices and reason of two humanists, Chris Hedges and Norman Finkelstein. Scholarship, integrity, analysis, and fair mindedness from two fine minds not rotted by propaganda.
Another brilliant moment listening to Norman Finkelstein, as always. A true inspiration for the past 20+ years, and a legend for many of us. Thank you.
My tears came out when I hear such a conscientious discussion and observation of the cruelty of human suppression. Yes, I said to my son that the day the event broke out is when blood and the deep hatred of people suffered acted upon the revenge. Of course, people are totally blind and thanks to Mr. Finkelstein. He let me know there is still some truth existing.
Hedges and Finkelstein! Two of the public intellectuals I most admire. Both of their voices have been pushed out of the mainstream, but both remain immensely respected because of their unwavering resistance to oppression.
Brave and honest. His life’s work will inspire hundreds and thousands of people fight for justice and humanity. Chris is on the right side of history. God bless them
Much respect for you Chris Hedges for allowing Norman Finkelstein the opportunity to present his knowledge and understanding of the Israeli Palestine issue without interruption. That’s a rare trait amongst most interviewers who seem intent to merely push their own narrative.
I've only just learned about Norman Finkelstein and Chris Hedges today, and I'm grateful for it. To hear everything discussed in such a clear, intelligent manner truly helped me understand better the scope of everything. The fact that Norman Finkelstein has put his credibility on the line every time he speaks out, and never backs down from his own morals in spite of it, is truly commendable.
This is first-class journalism and the reason I support this channel. Mr. Hedges, you are just as good interviewing as you are at being interviewed. It takes real courage to tackle a subject like this when everyone is still reacting at an emotional level. And I believe it is really no different when analyzing the Ukraine-Russia situation. We are all tempted to 'take a side' and react without fully understanding the reasons behind why history unfolds the way it does. International relations requires a kind of dispassionate and non-judgmental state of mind but media these days is content to simply shock and numb its audience doing a real disservice to everyone. This interview reveals all of that without even saying it. Congratulations to both of you and I am grateful for this forums' high caliber journalistic standards that actually enriches and helps listeners understand what's happening. Keep up the good work!!
Norman Finkelstein''s moral intelligence and courage is inspirational. He stands as a beacon of light in a world marked by self-interest and cowardice. And ditto for Chris Hedges.
Mr. Hedges and Mr. Finkelstein thank you for a moving and profound conversation. Your clarity and courage to bring this issue to light at a time when very few are willing to put this war and genocide in historical and social contest is extraordinary. My heart goes out to the people of Gaza, their suffering is unbearable to watch. Thank you,
Superb comment. I was trying to put into words what moved me so much by this discussion. You nailed it, "Your clarity and courage to bring this issue to light at a time when very few are willing to put this war and genocide in historical and social contest is extraordinary". Thank you.
I wish to CONGRATULATE Mr. Finkelstein on his incredibly TRUE and vast knowledge of has been happening in Gaza from the beginning and ESPECIALLY his commentary about what has been happening to Palestinians in Gaza the last 20 plus years. Brilliant gentleman, absolutely BRILLIANT. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Mr. Finkelstein. May God bless you and keep you.
I have read several of Finkelsteins books on my Kindle. This interview is an absolute must listening to. I'll put it on my Facebook and send to as many folks I know.
Norman Finkelstein's commentary feels searingly, viscerally true. Profoundly moving. I wish everyone would hear this and know the truth of this heartbreaking situation.
I can't stop crying, can't believe there are still people like you in this horrible world, thanks for being so honest and thanks for saying the truth, much respect
Norman Finkelstein - A scholar, researcher, debater, truth-seeker, Palestinian defender & advocate, dedicated with a memory like an elephant - yet professionally ostracised by PRO-ZIONIST lobbies world-wide. - Thank you for your undying fight for the rights of the Palestinians & confronting the world of Politics. - Just purchased your limited print - I ACCUSE ! - Keep up your tremendous work. .
I found Professor Finkelsteins book on Amazon and ordered it today. I hope this channel and his interview brings more attention to this, and more people order it.
Two brilliant intellectuals. Sober, deep, philosophical thinkers. An excellent interview. Norman is a true leftist. Sacrificed everything as an intellectual and didn't budge from his rock solid morals and sell out. Chris compliments Norman so well. Just a brilliant and much needed conversation. Free Gaza. Free Palestine.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and work Professor Finkelstein. As a former international relations and law student I have been aware of the situation in Israel and Palestine for some time and it angered me. I was too scared to speak out for fear of being called antisemitic. Armed with the information you’ve shared here and in your books, I will stay silent no longer. I too am filled with rage as all of humanity should be. I hope you’re taking good care of yourself during what must be a very difficult emotional time. We need you!
I hope you will go even further and go watch a couple of documentaries on Palestine and the Nakba. Glad you see thru it and can be obne of those to help stop the silence.
Maybe he just independently arrived at the right side of the issue through careful study. Or does an independent analyst always take the median view? Seems less independent to me doing that than just following the evidence you encounter through scrupulous research. If he made an error please speak up.
@@BenjaminGolden-c5uThat’s like saying the prosecutor of Nazis at The Hague was one sided zeolite. Go to another forum that spouts opinions and not facts
Norman Finkelstein has courageously sought to bring facts to the debate for decades. This has been at serious personal cost to himself. He is truly inspiring and I am grateful to him.
Although I think it is possible to condemn an act and yet understand how it came to be, I'm glad Prof. Finkelstine explained how he could not condemn the terrorists. It's not that he is condoning their acts, but rather that he understands the deep context in which these things tend to happen. I have been able to see that an abused child or wife can lash out at a narcissist parent or husband while yet being horrified by their violent. reaction.
Agree, but they are fighting for freedom and for their lives. Condemn them or calling them terrorists is an insult to justice. I will call the invaders who put them in concentration camps, the terrorists.
@@LeaMumof3I would want to say the same thing too. But the truth is, humans' mental health is not that strong to endure too much things. We can only say so when we're still not yet been tested so. Depressed people could do a lot of things. And people in Gaza could probably have a much more severe mental health issues than just a depression. I was never oppressed, so I can't understand them. The only thing I could do is just to accept that this kind of condition exist, and it's not impossible. I wouldn't say what they did is right or wrong, but I wouldn't claim that I wouldn't become like that too, if I was put inside their shoes. Because, I was never in their shoes. Because, I will never understand what they really feel and experience no matter how hard I tried. Because, it never happened to me.
I’ve got respect for this guy for speaking the truth & standing his ground for decades. He has a lot of respect from the U.K. citizens. Keep the good work up & ask for true guidance
UK citizens are often clueless and project their own guilt. As for most of the rest of the EU nations, I don't think the people in these countries have ever even though about giving Jewish land lost in the Holocaust back to the Jews. So the people on the other side of the pond from the U.S should not be smug.
Wow...the best presentation about this situation I've heard. This is the first time I have felt Norm speak with heart and soul and acknowledging his internal struggle and metacognition. Thank you Norm, and thank you Chris.
Words fail me except Deep Respect and Gratitude 🙏 for Norman Finkelstein and Chris Hedges for caring 😢 how they do. “It does matter how you stand” Lavoy Finicum
They are brilliant. I'm a real smarty pants but I am in awe when these intellectuals speak. Where I find myself unable to articulate my thinking, these two do it for me.
I appreciate this interview. All my life I’ve been confused about the Israeli/Arab issue. I of course have always just accepted what I was being told. But on the back of the worst global misinformation scandal in history (governments/media handling of the pandemic), I know longer trust what I’m being told. When this happened, media and everyone I know, jumped on the same band wagon, I thought now is the time to really look into this matter. Not just the past week or so and not just the past 75 years, but also the past 3000 years!! Suffice to say I’m learning A LOT that I would never find out on MSM. Good interview 👍
I found myself applauding at certain points. Norman Finkelstein is the rare person who will fearlessly break with the mob mentality, and do deep personal searching so he may question the narrative. So inspiring. I will share this widely. Thank you Chris thank you, Norman🩵✨🙏
The Israelis dropped leaflets saying go south within 24 hours or you'll get bombed. Many did evacuate to the south and still got bombed. What's wrong with this picture?
This was so good. I'm so appreciative of both Finkelstein and Hedges for their moral clarity on this issue. One difference between the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and today is this: the Jewish people living in the ghetto lost, but they are - rightly - hailed as heroes. The Palestinians are in an identical scenario as the Jewish people in Warsaw, and the West, its leaders and its media call them "terrorists" for rising up against their fascist oppressors.
I remember when governments and the media labelled Nelson Mandela and the ANC as terrorists. Pinochet was welcomed on state visits; now it's the Saudis they can't get enough of. Future generations will look back to this time in history in horror.
Actually he made a point of making no moral position but instead used loaded language to describe Israeli actions while romanticising the final goodbye's of the Arab insurgents.
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Norman Finkelstein has been abused for decades for his views on the Palestinian/Israel conflict. I know he will be remembered for his contribution on human rights.
It's sad that he won't be fully appreciated until after he leaves earth.
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Humans.
So typical what you say.
Explain better, Palestinians have no right to express their rage about the treatment Israel imposed on them?
Do Jews have no right to feel and express rage for Holocaust ?
Both him and Cornell West lost their tenure. The Zionists are powerful and extremely wicked. Their tentacles control large portions of the mainstream media and social media.
@@inacioserralheiro2604 Explain better. Expressing rage not against their former German oppressors, but by occupying the country of Palestine and ethnically cleansing the weakest people in the Middle East? That doesn't even make sense!
Finkelstein is a man who could've gotten with the program and lived a life of unwarranted prestige and unlimited financial comfort, like much of his ivy league contemporaries. Instead, he unwaveringly said the truth, he was fair and principled, and never relented even in the face of great personal and professional harm. This is a man who was attacked constantly and smeared in academic circles by zionist organizations to the point he was denied tenure (often considered a major achievement in an academic's life). My respect for him is boundless. I hope he can take comfort in the fact that his struggle and his sacrifice and his legacy will not be forgotten.
At this point being appreciated by the people, the oppressed and the poor should be the crown that shows real kings. The other can keep their titles to themselves, some of us are nto ready to sell their souls.
it's a cancelled culture now no more moral right and wrong if you don't fit the narratives you're instantly attacked and your life can be ruined immediately that's lots of people don't speak out who have the same opinions like Norman. We need more brave people speaking out for justice regardless what skin colors you are. COMPASSION, FAIRNESS, JUSTICE ARE A MORAL COMPASS FOR ONE'S CONSCIOUSNESS!
@@aninfinitelyvixxedvip6Beautifully said
That was heartbreakingly lovely comment and so true!❤
I can't beIieve how ignorant and truIy bIind so many are. The rest who side against Palestine, yes, are heartless and have no souIs. I cannot imagine a heII worse than being imprisoned in Gaza. 😢
Grateful that Mr. F is again speaking out. Huge respect for this man.
@RichieDoop,…absolutely & this man deserves a medal for his courage
If only he could stop yelling with that high-pitched voice. I can only take about 5 minutes of it.
@@gmw3083 your ,we can only take so much from you..
@@gmw3083Just turn your volume down. He has been to so much for so long, and many people that has been traumatized tend to express themselves.
@@romelleabdulaleem283 I'll just do 5-10 minutes and move on. There's so much to take in. I prefer to avoid melting my brain.
There are others who've been through a lot as well. Guys like Aaron Mate and Max Blumenthal haven't, but from what you're saying, their tone will become more shrill if they hang out in more conflict zones. Dan Cohen seems to get himself in the trenches. He's ok. I think the grayz boys partake of the gange weed a bit. Finklestein should consider it...
This interview didn't just teach me about Gaza, it changed my entire worldview. Why do genocides happen again and again? Because most people can't recognize one as it's happening. The amount of evil pervading every aspect of this modern world when you scratch below the surface, is sickening.
First of all before the attacks Israel I had no idea that it’s actually the MOST densely populated area on earth. However, as I look at the pictures of headless infants and in one instance twins who were burned alive appeared to have died holding each other 😭 I wasn’t able to look at anything else after those twins.
Now then, it seems like it was announced that Israel had the right to defend himself. I know of no other country who needed to be told that!
Gaza is a mess of humanity. No question. Why isn’t there something under way relocating the citizens of Gaza? It’s going to happen after the war is over anyway!
Hamas has been trying to eradicate Israel for many years now. They are sworn to eradicate Israel from the face of the earth down to the last of themselves and their suicide attacks against Israel. All war has come from a last resort. But quite like WWII? Once we were attacked, what choice did we have? I’m not trying to start an argument here but I believe both sides need to be heard to make an informed decision about what is right and wrong here.
The essence of bigoted hatred is the unwillingness to imagine or believe the despised nation experiences the same emotions, loves and needs as the bigot.
And many hide behind religious beliefs at that.
"Because most people can't recognize one as it's happening" You are wrong. I saw it happening for many years, I can see it happening now. The ignorant ones are indoctrinated with propaganda by our evil news organizations on TV.
It's sickening regardless if you are religious or not. It's sad that religion is used 99,9 % to conduct a genicide, which has happened over and over again. And in over 90 % of the cases it's always the non-white people who have to suffer .:(
We need to hear from Mr. Finklestein again and again. His message is too important to ignore.
Check out Katie Halpern’s almost 3 hour recent conversation with.Norman.
Katie Helper has amazing interviews with the professor. She is awesome. I enjoy Her show with Aaron Mate , Useful idiots as well as her own show
Agree
I’ve been listening to Norman Finkelstein for a long time. I remember when I saw his debate with Alan Dershowitz on “Democracy Now” and was impressed by his courage and passion. He made a fool out of Dershowitz and proved to the whole world that zionists lie about everything and they unfortunately have a massive support from both the media and the politicians which means that their talking points are being presented as truth. Norman has really sacrificed a lot for the Palestinian cause and he deserves the utmost respect.
Greetings from Sweden.
It's so disheartening that the oppressors have so much support, even though many of them will openly claim support for other humanitarian and socially progressive causes.
Agreed though I'm sure he would say his sacrifices pale next to those who have died for Palestinian freedom, even as he devoted 40 years to researching and publishing the truth
You should read one of his books! Illuminating no doubt
Massive support from media are you serious? Mainstream media parrot everything Hamas says and cry about every "poor civilian" that gets blown up because Hamas decided to dig tunnels under their house.
When you own one and pay for the other how can you loose?
This has got to be, by far, the most intelligent discussion on the topic of Palestine and Israel that I have ever heard in my life. I'm very grateful to have been privileged to listen to it.
Agree wholeheartedly on all points.
There's also an interview of Dan Cohan on The Grayzone. Fantastic. He & Mac Blumenthal spent months in Israel filming a documentary, Killing Gaza.
I'm a simple woman; once I see Prof. Finkelstein's name, I click. Same with Chris Hedges. These two have never disappointed me.
I completely agree
Watch Normans interview with Katie Halper. Lasted almost 3 hours. Wonderful.
Incredible. It's been a privilege to listen to these 53 minutes of Norman's amazing analysis, the history of struggle, and why, wherever there's injustice, there's always resistance, which must be understood, not condemned.
As I say, you don't have to be a Muslim to feel the pain, you just have to be a human
I hate to say it but being human is not enough-apparently. :( :( :(
Sadly, there aren't enough humans willing to speak up against the atrocities committed against the Palestinian people.
I am sure you are referring to the pain of the 224 hostages kidnapped from their homes and families.
Or perhaps the suffering of the woman who were raped.
Or maybe, just maybe, the suffering of the babies who were beheaded.
Because after all, as you said, you just have to be human to feel the suffering of other people.
What a perspective
" I 31:56 can understand being born into a concentration camp and being driven mad"
@@jaykay7180 there is no evidence of women being raped that day, none. It is an IDF claim, but lacks evidence.
There were no 40 babies beheaded, that was disproved many days ago.
You forget to mention the palestini women in israeli jails that are held without charge, and are being raped and tortured as a matter of fact.
You demand compassien for non existing beheaded babies, yet do not mention the schildren that DID die during that incident.,, and you completely ignore the far over 2000 dead children in Gaza.. Do you think bomb shrapnel and falling buildings do not cause suffering?
You never mention what Israeli children learn in school.. To hate arabs and pity secular jews. To kill arabs, and take them as slaves.
Do you really mean that living a free life in a lovely city, and being born to live inside a prison makes people equal?
And.. you do not mention that there was little to no firing of weapons oct 7th until IDF showed up and killed israeli and Hamas without a care of their own people.
And still.. yes we do feel for those israeli who died and suffered that day.. but not more, or before those palestinians who had much worse done to them.
Chris Hedges is where I go to seek clarity, it's been this way since Occupy Wall Street. His books have single handedly changed my mind to be critical of all aspects of our culture and the rhetoric used by politicians and mainstream media. He has affirmed the moral direction of my heart and set the intellectual stage of my life.
I am SO grateful Hedges interviewed Finklestein. This is extremely valuable content.
Thank you, and please, Chris, if you see this... know that you've shaped lives in such a positive way and we NEED you more than ever to continue these interviews and to continue digging for the truth.
Thank you. ❤️❤️
The most balanced and honest Jewish voice speaking for the Palestinian plight and their brutal occupation by Israel. Respect for this courageous man.
miko peled also
There's others to be fair
@@shadmonk I've never heard of him. I'll check him out. Thanks!
30:35--37:26...This is what it's all about folks!
also Schlomo Sands and Ilan Pape (The ethnic cleansing of Palestine)
Rosa Parks once said: "There is only so much hurt, disappointment, and oppression one can take... The line between reason and madness grows thinner." I shared this quote today on another channel, and it's come back to haunt me. I'm trying to write about the horrific events of October 7th. Now I realize the two roads in front of me and which one to take to successfully write and get my piece published. The only road leads to a deep philosophical look at condemnation and why we must shut out the noise, condemnation and censorship, (some of my posts have suffered, for the first time ever), of when condemnation is and isn't appropriate.
Thank you, Chris for your endless illumination and a special blessed gratitude to Mr. Finkelstein for lighting the tunnel I was in. I can see clearly now.
Professor Finkelstein is one courageous and honest man, an inspiring human being.
Unfortunately for the good people
of Israel, it has been Netanyahu's
Modus Operandi to hold on to power
by tactically Gaslighting the good
people of Israel and inciting the
enmity towards Israel and the fear
of good people throughout the world.
.... ditto !
Its a tragedy that speaking of fact requires courage
He really is.
Puts Bernie Sanders to shame!
I’ve heard Norman Finkelstein many times but this discussion with Chris Hedges reveals him at his most measured, thoughtful, humble and inspiring. Thank you Chris.
I am commenting from Nigeria, Africa.
I can only appreciate the kind of Journalism that Mr Chris Hedges and The Real News Network Do.
Mr Norman Finkelstein, a deep appreciation to you again and again.
Don't forget the on denominator to all this: US empire
US = empire by denial/deception - Immerwahr
...using proxies (Israel,Apatheid South Africa,Germany,Japan,Saudi, France,Ukraine,etc), pawns & patsies
Hear, hear. Yes! Truth.
If only more people would apply the same diligence as Finkelstein does to their own moral analysis, we would live in a less callously world.
Lol saying and doing are not synonymous
@johnnysprocketz Tell me about it. Or, no, don't tell, do it.
Agree....brilliant passionate clear insightful ...
Their? His.
There should be Great respect for Norman Finkelstein for speaking the truth. Well-compiled and well-said.
He is the conscience of the Holocaust
Thank you Mr Hedges for having Norman Finkelstein on your show. I’m so grateful that both you and Mr Finkelstein exist and are willing to share what you know with the world. God bless you both.
Thank you Chris Hedges for giving Norman Finkelstein the space and time to make his carefully constructed argument on behalf of Palestinian rights. Norman Finkelstein is the best and most compelling voice on this subject. Many thanks to you both.
I totally agree with your observation. Chris, who is also brilliant, subordinated his own ego to allow his guest the scope to deliver his cogent observations.
This is one of the best interviews on Palestine I have heard. He explains my feelings perfectly; better than I could explain/understand. I can't express how grateful I am.
Thank you Dr Finklestein: for your humanity, decency and honesty...
WE WILL REMEMBER YOU ALWAYS
Thank you Chris for letting Normon speak uninterrupted.
Love the level of intelligence & humanity of Finkelstein & Hedges. We are fortunate to have their voices.
Bravo, Chris. I think this was the most moving conversation about what is happening in Palestine right now that I've ever witnessed. Nuance and moral clarity in the news media is in less than short supply. This program is what some of us have been aching for. We have needed just one person, from somewhere, to describe what Palestinian reality is and the why's of their actions. Norman Finkelstein is the clarifying voice. He's done all the research and has engaged in deep thought about the issues, as well as made profound sacrifices for his truth. Thank you both from a grateful North American.
The comparison to the slave uprisings in the US has a lot of merit. Unfortunately most people in the US have no idea how terribly Israel has treated the Palestinians since their country started. They ask "What do the Palestinians want?" Because they have been brainwashed into believing through mass media and their own churches and even high schools that Israel can never be wrong. Period. Thanks as always Chris.
Perhaps you are unaware that you left out the fact that they are Caucasians and our Torah starts with Genesis ie human origins IE Black people.
All human lives are important, I don't know what your disagreement is based on.
@@benyahudadavidl you're position is unclear to me
Respectfully, I must ask, have you had your head under a rock. Israel is under constant scrutiny in the U.S. for decades. If Israel sneezes the wrong way, the media is on it. As for schools, they are infected with a one-sided agenda. I grant you, this was not the case decades ago, but today you are absolutely wrong. Most churches have gone woke. The fundamentalists are pro-Israel but other than that, Christians are quite willing to criticize Israel...and as for the secular Jews which are in effect the majority of Jews in America, they examine the Palestinian issue in a way that no other group imo would. It's rare when a group is at war, under attack, and/or has land disputes with others, that they even reflect on what might be the underlying issues.
The war in Ukraine could have been prevented and resulted from years of terrible U.S. leadership. Notice how in the first months of the war, almost no one dissented or took the time to look at both sides. This is typical. Secular Jews constantly examine their issues--you are in error about this.
It's not a matter that Israel can never be wrong. As is the case with all democracies that have a myriad of issues, people tend to look at the big picture at the expense of nuance. Far more nuance when it comes to Israel and what you say, the opposite is true. Israel is the only western power that gets constant examination. My problem with this is that other countries should be examined with the same frequency.
@@benyahudadavidl i am not unaware that the human species originated in Africa. What's the next racist style question? Yes King Solomon was dark but comely. If your a christian... What exactly is YOUR beef.
So glad to see this. Like Norman I'm a student of abolitionist and other radical liberation movements in US history. Since the "40 babies" claim started I have talked about Nat Turner's rebellion and how they even killed children. And I've told people this was a tragedy that was the fault of the slave owning class. No one can imprison, starve, torture people and then critique their most extreme resistance out of context. I'm sad to say many "both sides are equally bad" people have told me no Nat Turner and Hamas must be condemned. They just won't see that puts them on the slaveholders side. It's so sad to see these monstrous stories of deluded supporters of injustice in the name of moderation. It's so heartening to see Norman saying something like what I've been saying.
A minor note: The men John Brown beheaded were part of violent pro slave brigades so only "civilians" in a technical sense. It's worth thinking about that in other contexts too. Israel has a policy of moving the most militant zealous settlers near Gaza so while it's certain many innocent did die it's worth considering that just not being in the army doesn't always mean people don't take part in a war of oppressor and oppressed. It's often more complicated.
The Jews have certainly come full circle.
Holocaust 1.0 was inflicted by others on the Jews.
Holocaust 2.0 is now being inflicted by Jews on the 'others'.
This will definitely not end well for Israeli people if they continue to ethnically cleanse another group of people.
Who will be next after the Palestinians???
I came here to say the very same thing about John Brown. He did not execute the women or the children. He executed men who were friends and employees of Dutch Henry, a pro slavery zealot who gave meals, lodging and funds to Border Ruffians and other pro slavery militias who had spent the previous years brutalizing and killing abolitionists. The "massacre" was in reaction to the sacking of Lawrence KS, the provisional abolitionist capital of KS, not recognized by DC (the pro slavery capital was however.....interesting) and the near fatal beating of abolitionist Senator Charles Sumner, by southern pro slavery dandy/tough guy, Preston Brooks, cuz his feelings were hurt. It can be argued that Potawatamie was a legitimate military action. One must consider the source when we believe that John Brown killed innocents. I do not believe that he did.
Norman's integrity fills me with awe.
Exactly, it's indeed what stands out about him. So rare and impressive.
Wow this was the best talk I’ve heard on this whole situation Norman said in defense of Hamas: “I find it very hard to condemn people who are born into a concentration camp, whatever they do, I can understand whatever they do, I can understand being driven mad.” I have chills
Great guest. I love Norman Finkelstein. Thanks for having him on Chris.
Thank you Chris Hedges for having such a scholar like Norman Finkelstein in your show who could articulately tell your audience the history of Gaza and its people.
Good god, two people of this calibre, discussing a horrendous situation like this without a trace of hysteria. Thank you.
I no longer have words, humanity is indeed barbarians.
@@davidgillette7109 Let us hope that majority of people are of good will - but only small percentage continue believing in the 'chosen by god' myth. Greetings!!!
@@davidgillette7109 I feel like that too but the truth is most of us are good, it’s mostly the people we give power to that destroy us as our systems are so corrupt selling to the highest bidder and war makes money for the ones with their hand in the pot. It will never change, so we have to find our bubbles of humanity and do what we can to not lose sight of the decency. Finkelstein has dedicated his life to this, as has Hedges. We have great decent teachers and there are many more. That’s the humanity to seek out and believe again.
*It's great to see Norman has returned. I wondered about his silence. I needed to hear from him and he has helped me process what I saw happening in Gaza. Some of us feel useless because we cannot help the Palestinian people and our politicians do not care enough. I feel defeated.*
You SHOULD NOT FEEL DEFEATED 💪. BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT!!! ALL GOOD PEOPLE ARE WITH YOU. WHEN YOU USE NON VIOLENCE TO BACK YOU UP, IT IS NOT HARD TO SEE THE EVIL OF OTHERS ❤🎉🎉😮. PEACE AND LOVE, PEOPLE
Norm Finkelstein has got to be the only man who can talk for 20 minutes straight and not bore me for a second.
RIGHT!?! I get bored if a TikTok is longer than 2-3 minutes! This video was just under an hour (which it totally didn't feel like) and I didn't want it to end. I just discovered Mr.Finkelstein tonight, the first thing I saw was a clip of him pretty much telling a college student to quit the blubbering. 🤣 That clip was only 3 minutes and made me want to find out more about him, so this is the second video I've watched. Off to go find some more!
@@briannec2016Lol, same!
You'll enjoy his interview with Katie Halper then; it's over two hours long. He gives the actual words that Garrison wrote about the Nat Turner slave rebellion; incredibly powerful!
Edit: She has several videos with him, but the other ones I looked at are excerpts from the long one.
@@jumperonthelineI will certainly look for it. Thanks a lot for sharing.
At the GOP debate they approach this issue from trying to say anything the fastest and get a pat on the head, then not know who is getting criticized because they all said the same thing but painstakingly try to make them distinct, vs someone who is pre-emptively smeared because what he says is too distinct.
I learned about Israel-Palestine through Norman's books and I have always admired his sense of justice. Thank you both for this interview.
very sad...ignorance is bliss
Thank you Norman, for somehow channeling the rage that I have felt too over the past couple of days.
WOW what an incredible interview with 100% true stories about Israel and Palestine
Your airing of this shows that there are some people still capable of loving truth and free speech.
Thank God to hear the voices and reason of two humanists, Chris Hedges and Norman Finkelstein. Scholarship, integrity, analysis, and fair mindedness from two fine minds not rotted by propaganda.
Thank you for saying the truth and being here to tell us what's happening. Mr Finkelstein, great Humanist . God bless you
Another brilliant moment listening to Norman Finkelstein, as always. A true inspiration for the past 20+ years, and a legend for many of us.
Thank you.
My tears came out when I hear such a conscientious discussion and observation of the cruelty of human suppression. Yes, I said to my son that the day the event broke out is when blood and the deep hatred of people suffered acted upon the revenge. Of course, people are totally blind and thanks to Mr. Finkelstein. He let me know there is still some truth existing.
Hedges and Finkelstein! Two of the public intellectuals I most admire. Both of their voices have been pushed out of the mainstream, but both remain immensely respected because of their unwavering resistance to oppression.
Much respect to Finkelstein...A genuine and human voice of reason in a world filled with propaganda.
Amazingly deep life work. An enormous gift he is for all humanity.
Brave and honest. His life’s work will inspire hundreds and thousands of people fight for justice and humanity. Chris is on the right side of history. God bless them
gaza, the biggest open air gulag in the world
indeed
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj. It’s the largest concentration camp. 2 million.
The more I hear Prof. Finkelstein, the more I respect him. Thanks, Chris for interviewing him.
Much respect for you Chris Hedges for allowing Norman Finkelstein the opportunity to present his knowledge and understanding of the Israeli Palestine issue without interruption. That’s a rare trait amongst most interviewers who seem intent to merely push their own narrative.
I've only just learned about Norman Finkelstein and Chris Hedges today, and I'm grateful for it. To hear everything discussed in such a clear, intelligent manner truly helped me understand better the scope of everything. The fact that Norman Finkelstein has put his credibility on the line every time he speaks out, and never backs down from his own morals in spite of it, is truly commendable.
Thank you for your coverage and your bravery throughout the years, Mr. Chris Hedges, and Professor Norman Finkelstein.
🙏❤️🙏
Thank you Chris for engaging with Finkelstein, a stream that should be compulsory for anybody who identifies as a morally concerned human being.
Norman Finklestein is a champion for humanity🤗.
No he is not.
This is first-class journalism and the reason I support this channel. Mr. Hedges, you are just as good interviewing as you are at being interviewed. It takes real courage to tackle a subject like this when everyone is still reacting at an emotional level. And I believe it is really no different when analyzing the Ukraine-Russia situation. We are all tempted to 'take a side' and react without fully understanding the reasons behind why history unfolds the way it does. International relations requires a kind of dispassionate and non-judgmental state of mind but media these days is content to simply shock and numb its audience doing a real disservice to everyone. This interview reveals all of that without even saying it. Congratulations to both of you and I am grateful for this forums' high caliber journalistic standards that actually enriches and helps listeners understand what's happening. Keep up the good work!!
100% correct Professor. Thank you for being honest truthful & being you. 🇵🇸✌️🇵🇸
At best, a few claims are based on grains of truth. Context matters.
@@BenjaminGolden-c5u yet you refute none of them here. let me guess, you're not going to do the work for us...
Norman Finkelstein''s moral intelligence and courage is inspirational. He stands as a beacon of light in a world marked by self-interest and cowardice. And ditto for Chris Hedges.
Dr. Norman Finkelstein is an academic treasure!
A huge shoulder of humanity for us to stand on!
Mr. Hedges and Mr. Finkelstein thank you for a moving and profound conversation. Your clarity and courage to bring this issue to light at a time when very few are willing to put this war and genocide in historical and social contest is extraordinary. My heart goes out to the people of Gaza, their suffering is unbearable to watch. Thank you,
Superb comment. I was trying to put into words what moved me so much by this discussion. You nailed it, "Your clarity and courage to bring this issue to light at a time when very few are willing to put this war and genocide in historical and social contest is extraordinary". Thank you.
I wish to CONGRATULATE Mr. Finkelstein on his incredibly TRUE and vast knowledge of has been happening in Gaza from the beginning and ESPECIALLY his commentary about what has been happening to Palestinians in Gaza the last 20 plus years. Brilliant gentleman, absolutely BRILLIANT.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Mr. Finkelstein. May God bless you and keep you.
The more I hear him the more I respect him and find him a great source of insight.
Huge respect for this human man , I wish those who don’t know the roots of the problem of Palestinian learn from him .
Did the conflict start with Israel claiming land that belongs to the Palestinians?
I have read several of Finkelsteins books on my Kindle. This interview is an absolute must listening to. I'll put it on my Facebook and send to as many folks I know.
Thank you! Appreciate both of your voices now more than ever!
Been listening to Norman for years Appreciate everything he's done to speak the truth against injustice
Norman Finkelstein's commentary feels searingly, viscerally true. Profoundly moving. I wish everyone would hear this and know the truth of this heartbreaking situation.
Mister Finkelstein, you are a man of honour. God bless you...
It couldn't have been expressed better, thank you Norman, thank you Chris
I can't stop crying, can't believe there are still people like you in this horrible world, thanks for being so honest and thanks for saying the truth, much respect
Yes, That was an incredible discussion.
Norman Finkelstein - A scholar, researcher, debater, truth-seeker, Palestinian defender & advocate, dedicated with a memory like an elephant - yet professionally ostracised by PRO-ZIONIST lobbies world-wide.
- Thank you for your undying fight for the rights of the Palestinians & confronting the world of Politics.
- Just purchased your limited print - I ACCUSE !
- Keep up your tremendous work.
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Bravo. Thank you!
What a powerful message. Thank you Norman and you too, Chris, for having the wisdom to invite such an erudite guest.
I found Professor Finkelsteins book on Amazon and ordered it today. I hope this channel and his interview brings more attention to this, and more people order it.
I love Norm. Always have, always will. He is 100% CORRECT. I'd go mad, too. Just KNOWING I could NEVER, EVER escape that nightmare that is Gaza!
Two brilliant intellectuals. Sober, deep, philosophical thinkers. An excellent interview.
Norman is a true leftist. Sacrificed everything as an intellectual and didn't budge from his rock solid morals and sell out.
Chris compliments Norman so well. Just a brilliant and much needed conversation.
Free Gaza. Free Palestine.
That’s funny.
Thank you both for your information on this matter, thank you again, love from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and work Professor Finkelstein. As a former international relations and law student I have been aware of the situation in Israel and Palestine for some time and it angered me. I was too scared to speak out for fear of being called antisemitic. Armed with the information you’ve shared here and in your books, I will stay silent no longer. I too am filled with rage as all of humanity should be. I hope you’re taking good care of yourself during what must be a very difficult emotional time. We need you!
It’s saddens me that any condemning of Israel is regarded as antisemitism.
I hope you will go even further and go watch a couple of documentaries on Palestine and the Nakba. Glad you see thru it and can be obne of those to help stop the silence.
Insights not too many ppl can swallow, much less accept. Thank you as always Chris for such powerful journalism.
Good bless Norman Finkelstein.
He's a one-sided zealot that professes to be an independent thinker.
Maybe he just independently arrived at the right side of the issue through careful study. Or does an independent analyst always take the median view? Seems less independent to me doing that than just following the evidence you encounter through scrupulous research. If he made an error please speak up.
@@BenjaminGolden-c5uThat’s like saying the prosecutor of Nazis at The Hague was one sided zeolite. Go to another forum that spouts opinions and not facts
absolutely stunning show Chris. I've never been so riveted and alarmed. Norman Finkelstein is a true treasure.
Great respect to Norman Finkelstein and wish, that he stays healthy, satisfied and strong
Norman Finkelstein has courageously sought to bring facts to the debate for decades. This has been at serious personal cost to himself. He is truly inspiring and I am grateful to him.
Although I think it is possible to condemn an act and yet understand how it came to be, I'm glad Prof. Finkelstine explained how he could not condemn the terrorists. It's not that he is condoning their acts, but rather that he understands the deep context in which these things tend to happen. I have been able to see that an abused child or wife can lash out at a narcissist parent or husband while yet being horrified by their violent. reaction.
Agree, but they are fighting for freedom and for their lives. Condemn them or calling them terrorists is an insult to justice. I will call the invaders who put them in concentration camps, the terrorists.
Nothing could make me murder innocent people and hold children as hostages. It's not at all okay. Ever.
@@LeaMumof3Go spend a few decades in Gaza, you'll be surprised what you're capable of.
@@LeaMumof3I can respect the ideology of pacifism and still understand what it means to act out of hopeless desperation.
@@LeaMumof3I would want to say the same thing too. But the truth is, humans' mental health is not that strong to endure too much things. We can only say so when we're still not yet been tested so. Depressed people could do a lot of things. And people in Gaza could probably have a much more severe mental health issues than just a depression. I was never oppressed, so I can't understand them. The only thing I could do is just to accept that this kind of condition exist, and it's not impossible. I wouldn't say what they did is right or wrong, but I wouldn't claim that I wouldn't become like that too, if I was put inside their shoes. Because, I was never in their shoes. Because, I will never understand what they really feel and experience no matter how hard I tried. Because, it never happened to me.
Wonderful ! Hedges and Finkelstein are two of the greatest American minds of our times. Greetings from Brazil.
I’ve got respect for this guy for speaking the truth & standing his ground for decades. He has a lot of respect from the U.K. citizens. Keep the good work up & ask for true guidance
UK citizens are often clueless and project their own guilt. As for most of the rest of the EU nations, I don't think the people in these countries have ever even though about giving Jewish land lost in the Holocaust back to the Jews. So the people on the other side of the pond from the U.S should not be smug.
Wow...the best presentation about this situation I've heard. This is the first time I have felt Norm speak with heart and soul and acknowledging his internal struggle and metacognition. Thank you Norm, and thank you Chris.
Words fail me except Deep Respect and Gratitude 🙏 for Norman Finkelstein and Chris Hedges for caring 😢 how they do. “It does matter how you stand” Lavoy Finicum
Norman Finkelstein, a respectful brave man. Peace upon you from Egypt
' The Palestinians Had NO OPTION - Norman Finkelstein '
No option but to rape and kidnap women and children? They are holding hostages? How could you possibly excuse that?
It sucks that it took this tragedy to force these conversations
It's actually insane how educated Norm Finkelstein is
@@gertie9881 He's an exception as a professor of Political Science
So good to hear from two brilliant minds on the subject of Israel and Gaza. Lends some light into the difficult situation in this area.
They are brilliant. I'm a real smarty pants but I am in awe when these intellectuals speak. Where I find myself unable to articulate my thinking, these two do it for me.
I appreciate this interview. All my life I’ve been confused about the Israeli/Arab issue. I of course have always just accepted what I was being told. But on the back of the worst global misinformation scandal in history (governments/media handling of the pandemic), I know longer trust what I’m being told.
When this happened, media and everyone I know, jumped on the same band wagon, I thought now is the time to really look into this matter. Not just the past week or so and not just the past 75 years, but also the past 3000 years!!
Suffice to say I’m learning A LOT that I would never find out on MSM.
Good interview 👍
That was great. I wish more people saw this. I can't imagine what those people have gone through the past 75 years.
Did Israel start the conflict by taking land from the Palestinians?
Thank you Chris for hosting Frinklestein and thank you Frinklestein for the plain facts. Such honest voices are much needed.
Gosh, it’s even worse than I thought Palestinians are living a horrible existence at the hands of the Israel people
Brilliant stuff. It really puts the situation into perspective. Thank you Norman Finkelstein and Chris Hedges.
A legendary interview between two of the greatest minds. Thank you!
I found myself applauding at certain points. Norman Finkelstein is the rare person who will fearlessly break with the mob mentality, and do deep personal searching so he may question the narrative.
So inspiring. I will share this widely. Thank you Chris thank you, Norman🩵✨🙏
The Israelis dropped leaflets saying go south within 24 hours or you'll get bombed. Many did evacuate to the south and still got bombed. What's wrong with this picture?
The deepest respect to Norman Finkelstein!!!
This was so good. I'm so appreciative of both Finkelstein and Hedges for their moral clarity on this issue. One difference between the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and today is this: the Jewish people living in the ghetto lost, but they are - rightly - hailed as heroes. The Palestinians are in an identical scenario as the Jewish people in Warsaw, and the West, its leaders and its media call them "terrorists" for rising up against their fascist oppressors.
I remember when governments and the media labelled Nelson Mandela and the ANC as terrorists. Pinochet was welcomed on state visits; now it's the Saudis they can't get enough of. Future generations will look back to this time in history in horror.
Lol identical scenario, what a clown
Actually he made a point of making no moral position but instead used loaded language to describe Israeli actions while romanticising the final goodbye's of the Arab insurgents.
@@shauneden4229 Nothing "loaded" about calling a genocide a genocide.
@@ringo8410 Or describing one side as fascist while knowing that Hamas are not running a democracy in Gaza.
Thank you Dr. Finklestein for every single word you say, you are a true hero and a treasure…
One of the best discussions on violence and struggle for justice.
I am in tears. Norman Finkelstein is an amazing man who has been through so much.
No one Wins in War 🙏💜🕊 Prayers for Peace
That was amazing. Its a great privilege to be witness to such wisdom, integrity and depth of knowledge.