Why is everyone obsessed with heritage trains? Class 47 Eurovision relief services
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Thanks to everyone who said hi on the day... it was great meeting you all!
I can't lie, this run was incredibly fun, and it was a pleasure to run into you as always Jen!
I think it's really the nostalgia factor that makes these so interesting - You really can't get anything like this anymore. The comfort, the ride quality, the styling, it's all very retro.
the comfort and no airplane style seats is what i love about them.. and used to back in the day growing up .. no way will folk in the future think much of todays trains like they do these old ladies
@@kevg707 The former Virgin XC coaches were by far the best in the set, absolute bliss 👌
I do miss the mark 2 coaches, far more pleasant than some of the modern trains to travel in, even if they are a bit noisy
And the Mark 3 ones too. They used to run between Liverpool Street and Norwich on the great eastern main line (GEML) until around June 2020. The doors open and close manually. I think those were one of the only trains in frequent service where the doors do not open/close automatically. Replaced Class 745 FLIRT
Love them
The roar of the B4 bogies helps lull you to sleep. If that doesn’t, the sumptuous seats will! The brakes are definitely noisy though. Still far nicer to travel in than today’s stuff.
the absolute race to make this train after our train from Buxton was delayed by half an hour!! just about managed to make it thanks to the TPE blocking it in for a few more minutes 😂😅
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Slam doors, pull down windows.....
Oooh take me back to the 80s Jen 😊
Great video as always.
Had both of those locos for haulage back in the day. 47 826 was a Virgin Cross Country loco before the Vomiters came! I think I'm right in saying it was the loco painted in Police livery, as part of a "stop kids lurking on the lineside" campaign!
47 813 was a Great Western loco, and I rode behind it on my first ever trip along the Dawlish seawall. It was August 2002I was in Plymouth and wanted to ride Virgin Cross Country 47s along the seawall before their impending replacement by.....you know what! I had 47 805 from Plymouth to Exeter St Davids, where, having two hours before a 47 (a Great Western one) was due back, so I did a 150 (yeah, I like modern stuff too!) down to Exmouth, had an ice cream on the prom and came back, and yeah, 47 813 took me back to Plymouth!
Yeah, that is Mk 2 stock, which would have been used on those Cross Country services back in the day, as well as being hauled by electrics on Euston-BNS/Wolverhampton trains. The Mk 3s were usually used on the longer West Coast trains, as well as forming the stock of the HSTs! And yeah, both are far superior comfort wise to pretty much most modern trains!
Nice one Jen. I remember 47's well. As a kid that grew up spotting we used to dislike them owing to how common they are.... the 67's of yesterday! Cheers for sharing.
Great video - I really love the bit from 6m20 where you admit that you are starting to see what the attraction is ... followed soon afterwards by your deep incisive reporting about the interior of these heritage carriages being, er, "what I might call 'retro'" 🙂
Came across your channel being a train travel person and so glad. Your have such a natural and beautiful presence
the sweet graphic desing at 6:02 with name and number makes me happy. Crisp clear and just the right shape and color. I dont know why things like this please me, but there it is. The big reason I love the London Underground as well, all the graphics
Haha our selfie made the video! Great video as always and it was fun to watch you filming...and pointing of course 😉
Was great to meet you! Apologies if I was a bit flustered... I always am when filming!
Brilliant video Jen, you were pretty lucky to ride behind a Class 47 with MK2 coaches. Old trains are awesome.
MLovesTrains (to kind of borrow someone else’s moniker) loved all trains, old , very old, current, new and very new and future trains too. And Trams. Love trams. What do I like about heritage trains? They are trains. Class 47s were great locomotives when I was a young teenager train spotter. Yesterday at work a Class 40 and a Class 45 came through coupled together. Wow, this old train spotter was super excited. I’m also excited about our new 701s.
My Grandad got me into heritage trains and took me on few trips. Plus he also loves steam trains as well. That heritage locomotive does look really nice.
If i had a choice between a 47 with Mk2 stock and a Class 331, give me a 47 anytime of the day. Good video, wish i had known about this running.
A good reminder that the 47s were really good trains for their time which was why they made so many of them. And mk2 coaches are so much comfier than the boards of wood you sit against in the Azumas or worse still on Thameslink.
I always thought the Class 47 was a loco.
@@whiterose.5684 not when more than one of them are connected to one another!
brilliant remember travelling on the MK2 coaches back in the 90s going fro the South to the North and i still remember the very first train journey which was a MK2 fro Euston to Preston in the 90s which got me into liking train journeys and i still love train journeys today but those older trains have ore charactor than the modern stuff today
it was lovely meeting you jen, enjoyed chatting to you at piccadilly 🙂
You too!
Very nice video Jen, really quite enjoyed it. Class 47s are brilliant locomotives but Heritage trains are great to see and ride on.
37s a better! #EnglishElectricRules #BrushDrools! 😂
How sid you watch it 17 hours ago?
@@MontytheHorse to be honest... they are so much better! I would take a Class 37 than a Class 47. 🤣
@@Sim0nTrains We all need to persuade Jen to take a trip behind a Class 37 now. :D
My house backs onto the Chat Moss line and saw that going back and forth on Sunday. Did wonder what it was up to. Informative as always Jen.
3:02 the man in the back had me rolling😂
Makes me feel old when Mk2 carriages are now "heritage"
Lovely to meet you today as I was beginning my commute to Leeds - really enjoyed our chat - hope your day goes well and thanks soooo much for all your great vids
I saw a Class 47 in a scotrail livery at Carlisle back in February
Oh Mk2,s such a lovely way to travel hauled by the fantastic 47,s. Now those were the days when it was a real pleasure to ride Britains railways.
Great vlog Jen. I,like the old trains because I wasn’t around to see them back in the day and it’s pretty cool seing them as they are getting pretty rare nowadays. Great how WCR brought in these 47s for Relief services during the end of Eurovision weekend. I enjoyed watching as always.
Fab video Jen! Making me all nostalgic for the slam door stock we used to have on the Norwich to London route. I love the Stadler FLIRTs but nothing quite like a mk2 or 3.
Did you notice the old Anglia Railways livery coaches?
@Travel Signal Yes I did!
Looks great fun. Plus seeing a couple of coaches still in Anglia Railways livery!
I'm waiting for the video with Bamber and Lostock Hall featured. 😆 Nice to see you out and about filming the other day. I may well be on that video. 😅
Brilliant video as usual Jen!
amazing vid as usual Jen!
Great video Jen. Looks like you had fun.
Looks like fun to me… I remember the mark II coaches from the Gatwick express days… I think having a physical loco is just fun these days, as well as a comfy seat!
My husband is a heritage diesel geek. He would have loved this. We do get old diesels down here in Devon occasionally.
Pretty sure I caught one of these with my dad when we went to London to see the Millennium Dome in 2000!
Fabulous video! Reminds me of early uni days travelling on CrossCountry behind Class 47s...
Still nothing beats the original Mark 1 coach
Trains with Carriages, with Toilets that Flushed right onto the Tracks, and where Tomatoes grew.
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Did you need a special ticket for this service or was it literally just any old manchester to liverpool ticket would allow you on the relief charter
Was an ordinary ticket I think
It wasn't clear... There was zero information out there about these services. Some were saying no ticket required, others were saying that a standard Manchester to Liverpool ticket was
Nice to see the different interiors of the stock. They're mk2d/e/fs, and I'm surprised some still are in ex-Anglia livery.
Can we replace the XC 220/221s with 47s and mk2s like this?
I despise how "fire regulations" have dictated the comfort levels of modern seats. So many are just not nice to sit in for more than a short hop.
Thanks for that Jen . Great fun.😮
A classic diesel is always great, the smell, the noise!! They were my childhood, always enjoyed trips to paddington to view the long distance diesels going out in the 1980's.
I enjoyed the video and I'm of the age when I traveled a lot on train that was the norm for me and yes better than voagrs
Oooh, I wonder if this was the same set/stock that ran the extra Liverpool Street - Peterborough services for one weekend a few months ago? I'm glad you had fun, there's definitely a really cool novelty to getting to ride vintage/heritage trains on the mainline as they're just such a rarity nowadays outside of railtours? Especially when most of the time, the older coaches are just way more comfortable than any modern stuff!
In fact, controversial opinion - quite often, my least favourite thing about heritage trains, are heritage train fans themselves. And I say this as a heritage train fan myself xD
Same set maybe but different locos as 47815 Great Western was on that one
I saw that train at dore and totley I was up at 9pm gotta catch it ya know
Nice pointing, well done.
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Hi Jen,
Glad you enjoyed finding out what all the fuss was about...it's all part of keeping alive what we were familiar with... as for the Class 47, I have driven those and Class 31s...my main traction though was Class 317s, Class 315s, Class 313s, Class 321s, Class 322s and Class 365s.
My Railway carreer spanned 25 years.
Hopefully will get to meet you at some time soon.
Take care,
Jon B.
Lovely little impromptu vlog
Yellow Car! Priceless!
It's a shame loco-hauled trains are rare nowadays, I've been lucky enough to catch the Chiltern 68 + Mk3 service from Moor Street a couple of times and it's heavenly compared to WMR's 172s!
Fun thing from my previous rail operator days (not in Europe) is that when you have equal to or more than 8 diesel dmu carriages in a consist, it actually becomes more efficient to loco-haul the service - especially the way the USA/Canada does their commuter lines.
Liverpool approach always reminds me of Euston.
Love seeing and riding behind 47s. Mad realy. Because back in the 80s. I didn't like them because they were everywhere. Was always into 50s more
Hey jen, fab vid! Music choice is awesome aswell! What's it called?
I miss the days of the Mk.2 loco hauled services on the Fife Circle. The 68 hauled sets were brilliant.
Understanding what trains were like is important in understanding todays failings. British Rail had its issues but it provided a service where you just turned up and bought a ticket to travel where you wanted to go to - it was a public service as well as being public transport. There was also a lot less region discrimination. None of the concept of the new trains go to the south and the old ones remain in the north. As for engines like the Class 47 were developed in the 1960s and a fair few of them are around today. Whats the life of a new piece of rolling stock these days?
You should consider filming more older trains as they are known to get high views. Steam traction is a popular one and throughout most of the time iv been on TH-cam iv filmed steam tours. Travelling on-board one could be something you could consider as although fares wise they aren't cheap, if you we're to travel on the Scarborough Spa Express between York and Scarborough it's only £50pp.
My main criteria is to make videos I enjoy rather than constantly chasing views tbh… that always leads to burnout
@@JenOnTheMove for me iv not been out much lately due to a foobar shoulder after a dislocation but need to get back out. Only reason for suggesting filming steam tours is even if only as a one off it will be a high viewed video.
Great video as usual Jen! Do you ever get recognised by random strangers while you are out making these videos?
Yes, quite a lot these days!
And even by a random stranger’s wife lol 😂
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Oh so this is when back in the day when they used to know how to make train carriages comfortable, sitting on a cross country voyager for 4 and 1/2 hours like I've got to do on Friday is going to result in a numb bum for me :(
A window at every seat! Those were the days.....
The approach to Lime Street always reminds me of the approach to Glasgow Queen Street. It's through a rather boring tunnel with no view. Glasgow Central is way better with that magnificent view over the Clyde.
But yeah, Mark 2 coaches are the gold standard for comfort. Class 47s are not bad, but I always preferred Class 37s.
I miss the sliding door windows
Because of the slam doors!!
Having Never done a railtour like this before, I have no clue weather this train was free to ride, or if you need to purchase tickets or what! Could somebody please inform me? I'm interested to know.
Nobody really knew what the ticketing arrangements were, there was no information out there at all!
@@JenOnTheMove wow! I’m guessing you all just turned up and went for a ride? Sounds great! I should really check west coast railways out!
If anyone from Avanti is watching this, please take one lesson. We want our comfy seating back.
What happened at edge hill?
Nice A Charter
So we fill a city with tourists, show them our public transport by using trains and carriages that have been mostly phased out of mainline passenger service. God damnit.
It wasn't publicised don't worry
Jen does a train spotting video? 😉😅. It's almost like they should've built extra platforms and tracks from Pic to Oxford Road 🤔.
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, the existence of this service did seem to negatively affect other services tbh
Blimey, TPE turned up twice - that's a miracle!
Why are you going to Liverpool? (at the start)
Which train to get back on?..... you so made the right choice with the 47 as its not every day you can ride a train like the old school ;)
how do your unplanned videos happen?
I hear about something happening, pick up the camera and just head out!
Heritage trains should help provide extra capacity more often tbf
JenontheOldtrain
I prefer traditional British Rail liveries on the Class 47s & locomotives at only one end & the coaches all the same livery
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Class 47 is a locomotive not a train the train is what it pulls
Hi
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But this is my opinion with these type of trains, it is probably going to garner me a lot of hate, f**k it, it's my opinion, I'm welcome to it but hopefully you'll get the basic idea of where I am coming from
I really do hate when companies put these kind of trains on because they advertise them for certain people and then you have the "bashers" coming out of the woodwork because, oh, we must bash this train to Liverpool and we must bash it back to get the other loco for haulage. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to see them out and about for the nostalgia purpose but when you have the "bashers" abusing the train just so they can say, oh I got 47 haulage, it's not right
Maybe that is me just being old school or something but if it was put on as a way of a relief train for Eurovision, it should be for those people
I suppose there is a question of whether they actually reduce congestion, or if they actually make it worse by drawing out the foamers. The train did look pretty empty, but I suppose West Coast wouldn't run them if they didn't have a purpose
why does everyone hate voyagers
Ride on Mk 1 or Mk2 coaches,then go on your voyager,don't think you would need to ask the question again.
I'm with you, Jen.
Old trains do nothing for me. I prefer shiny new hi-tech ones that look sleek and fast and awesome!
Man or woman ??????
Well aren't you original, I bet your mother's proud.
No, wait, she left you on a doorstep
Stop fretting about your hair. I have no great interest in trains, old or new. But at least it wasn't a steam train.
No disability access to the old carriage. Those were the days hey?
@Upsidedownclass47