You are probably the last of the TH-camrs that Jody asked to do a review, but I think you provided the best review. By that I mean you went over the most details and provided the most nuances, which shows that you really gave this review some thought. Thanks Ben!
@@gilbertoflores7397 i dont know which ones u watch, some reviewers i dont watch for a reason. the only 2 ive seen who did review the Erebus is ben n just the watch, who actually had similar feedback to ben, esp about the design and the bezel.
@@punkypink83 if you watch Jody's launch video he says who he sent them to, and the first few people who made videos first, talked more about how they're good friends with Jody, say he's a great guy and they really hope he succeed with his brand, not being very critical at all, like they normally are, just pure praise, especially when they can be known to nitpick anything ridiculous, especially names, such as "sounds like an std", it's a Chinese watch so it's trash.
@@gilbertoflores7397 i think i know who u mean, and well, i don't watch those guys. i watch only Ben and Just the Watch out of the ones who've gotten the Erebus for review for a good reason.😌
When Jody said in his reveal video that he would be sending you review samples I knew I had to wait for your review. I really appreciate you separating your personal preferences from the objective review. I think I will pick one of these up after your review as I do quite like the look, I was mainly waiting for your take on the fit, finish and value of the watch which I'm grateful that you provided
I like the watch. Yes, not something new in sense of design but the case finish and form are, together with a bracelet, good enough for the money and largely overpass any Seiko at the same price range. We could say that some big names of Japan watch industry are a scam as often they charge a lot over their names and cutting corners big time? It is just my impression. Unknown microbrands are often the best, sometimes bringing some fresh design, sometimes only quality...
I understand that Jody had to be carefull designing his first watch and investing his hard earned money, but because of this, the watch came out a little bit dull. It just does not have this "something", so I will pass this watch. Specs are not everything. Maybe the next one will make my heart beat faster.
i'm no businessman but imho the first one had to be a people pleaser. and how do you achieve that? with vanilla design. if he sells out, he'll have cash and experience to push the design a bit more. maaahk from long island watches seems to do the same. lot of people pleaser designs while occasionally throwing in some funky ones
I was banned from making comments on TH-cam for 24 hours because he didn’t like that I said that the dial looked just like my San Martin that was $169, it is the same pebbled dial exactly! I lost all respect for him.
Honest review. I share similar view. I would say it lacks its own character, or the wow factor. Like ticking all the boxes but it still can’t make you pull the trigger
Maybe it looks too familiar to some iconic watches. It makes you feel like you have seen it before. Not an interesting watch. I guess spec itself s not the initial factor that makes people like a watch
@@lcjlcj2739 I agree. If people went just for specs I would stick with homage watches from AE. It does lack the wow factor. Yes, good effort but I think a more daring design, which may also polarise people, is needed to create one's own image and brand. I have recently started buying more Seikos, knowing full well the specs are not great, but also loving the case shapes (and sizes) and dials! As well as Zelos, which are kinda in the same price range...
Great review Ben, I’ve seen the others review the Origin and I’d say you were the most honest in my opinion. Not that anyone else is being disingenuous. Cheers.
The only frankly honest review of this watch. Not that other reviewers were dishonest, but they were being careful not to hurt the founders or Erebus. Jody is a good watch reviewer. Is Erebus Origin an interesting watch? That is another question.
Damn, this review made you somehow even more trustworthy. Appreciate not pulling any punches, definitely not a watch to scoff at but certainly is a sterile first attempt.
I appreciate your honest review. I am glad Jody shipped a solid watch. I do, however, echo your concerns on style, and I am glad you were so frank about it. I think my biggest gripe is the handset, which really is just too simple, and that is exasperated by the white outline on white lume on some of the color variants: makes the hour hand look too thick. Never been a fan of flat bezels either.
Like always, a review full of great insights delivered with integrity ! Your channel and Dave's from Just the Watch are my favourite ones, reasonably priced watches for reasonable folks ! Cheers.
Great and honest review Ben. I ordered the purple with strap pack on launch day, both because the design appealed to me, and as a long time fan of Jody’s channel, with spare cash, it felt right to show support. Even if it doesn’t end up as my go to or favourite watch in my collection, it’ll be a solid addition nonetheless!
IT's the fact that it has a decent movement inside it that will make it probably last a lot longer than most people think it will. And as far as small brands, the reality is that almost everyone uses the same half dozen cheap movements in their "luxury" watches. So why pay $1500 for the same movement in some designer brand? :)
Totally agree Ben ...it's too vanilla for me too. It's nice....I like it...but it doesn't excite me enough to part with £270. Phoibos, Zelos regularly do force me to part with my hard earned money. This is a good solid start from Jody...but it's not one for me.
Great review and I am with you on this. To my eye it's the skin diver size bezel on a full size dive watch which makes the markers look a bit small. I'm a fan of JOMW and it's great first watch, but I'll wait and see what's next.
I waited for this video since the first announcement of the Origin, and here it is. The sizing aside you put all in words what I was thinking before. Awesome specs, good execution but just not my cup of tea. Waiting for Jody's next watch and your next review. Keep up the good work 👍
Ben. You nailed it. Like you, I'm a Jody fan, I live 20 minutes from where he lives and have been a subscriber to his channel since virtually the beginning. I was excited when he teased his new endeavour but when I saw it a was a bit... meh... It's a great first effort and I fully understand why they released a watch of this style but after buying several dive watches on his recommendations over the years, I don't want or need another diver. A quick watchbox check reveals a Steinhart, 2 x Seiko Prospex, a Helm and a an Bulova/Accutron (pre Jody). Plus my other 6 or 7 other watches. Nice dial, nice clasp and bracelet but for $300 with an NH-35, I can't justify it to myself. Jody, if you read this I hope you kill it with the Origin and aren't a victim of your own success in a much as we've already spent all our money on similar watches you've recommended previously...
Here's the dirty secret of the industry. Almost all of it is made in China aside from the movement, then assembled in the country of origin, allowing it to be "Swiss" or "Japan" or similar. So It's a basic Seiko movement in very similar case as the rest. I'd certainly rather pay $299 for this over $299 for a quartz Tissot. The market is awash in those cheap little ETA movements with even cheaper cases and bracelets.
I'm surprised that of all the guys who have reviewed the Erebus Origin so far, only Dave at Just the Watch has mentioned the design of the hands and dial, and the satisfying way the hands line up with the indices. It's my favorite feature and to me, it's what sets it apart from being "just another dive watch."
When Jody did his preview video you knew where his inspiration was coming from so it was no surprise it ended up looking similar to the Helm Vanuatu but without the wait list. It's a great first effort but UK buyers could end up paying around £350 after import costs and there's a lot of decent options out there at that price. I hope it does well and look forward to seeing what comes next.
My time for having a Vanuatu, after two years of waiting has just come and while I'm not getting it, as hype is long gone, this is nowhere near it, mind you. "Inspired"... Yeah, Jody is a businessman, all right, and his partner even more so, but the Vanuatu is absolutely superior to this in every single way, there is no comparison whatsoever. Most of all, there's the take it or leave it vibe that goes with it. This, on the other hand, is a fucking circus that aims to appeal to every single possible customer out there, just for the sake of making a sale. Nothing in the design language is consistent, there is not a single aspect of this that's attractive in an already crowded niche. And I liked Jody more a couple of years ago.
@@procopy I got my Vanuatu a couple of months back after a two year wait and even though it's now a 7 year old design it was well worth the wait. Jody is well aware of the supply issues with Helm, he probably contributed to the hype. I think this is an attempt to poach business from impatient Helm fans as the Origin has many design elements of the Vanuatu including the logo. The watch is okay but it's simply not as well executed.
@@S-Ltd1000 See, problem with waiting lists is, in most cases you can have the thing for a little extra on ebay. As far as Helm is related, there is no shortage of Vanuatus on ebay at any given time - either by flippers or people who have had enough of it. And I like its design, I really do. Should it pop for a low enough price, I'll grab it. I don't like anything about the Origin, though. Not sure what Jody's concept was/is, but this watch looks as generic and Chinese (in every possible sense of that term), as any other diver you'd find on Ali. There is no soul, no character, nothing that can get one going "Man, this is damn cool". To me, it is an example of what happens when ulterior profit motives take over product concept. And I can hardly believe someone who has gone over thousand watches gets aroused by its own creation.
@@S-Ltd1000 Is ‘poaching other companies business’ by copying their design with the excuse that they have supply issues really the ethos you want in a start-up?
Excellent review of a nice watch (specially the yellow dial), HOWEVER... the $300 price tag means it won't be on my shopping list any time soon. There are at least a dozen or so microbrands offering NH35-based dive watches with similar specs, so Erebus is going to have a hard time carving out some market share in that segment.
I think your review is the best and most detailed review yet. They style is the deal breaker for me here too. Just too generic and comes across as a box ticking design for the people that subscribe to his channel. Something about the printed dial looks a little cheap as well. I see watches like this and I think "still good for the price" but also, "I might as well save up a little more and getting something I really want".....
I have the same sentiment. It's undoubtedly a great watch - and if it was better looking, I'd have bought one. The good news is they seem to have been selling really well, so if the customers do indeed come - and stay - we have a lot to look forward to.
Good first effort, I hope Jody sells out but agree the design is not quite yet there for me either. Also hope he considers selling just the case for the modding community, because that is a really good looking case/bracelet.
I enjoyed your review, it was very detailed, and for the most part fair. I have to disagree with your style rating. I find most dive watches sacrificing readability for "out there" style choices. For example, in your 10 sub $200 dive watch review you linked us to, I find most of those watches a lot less legible and usable than Jodi's Erebus watch. I think the primary goal of a dive watch is to be EXTRA legible under water. The only watch in your dive watch roundup that is close to the legibility of the Erebus is the Orient Kamasu. I find the Erebus's sharp, ultra legible styling more compelling than most dive watches. The design style feels like a Sinn 556 was turned into a dive watch. Nobody calls that watch "plain", but it's balance and ultra-legibility speaks to me. I'd personally give the Erebus a style rating of 9/10. I think the 6.3/10 you gave it is just too low....there is too much subjective bias in your style rating. I've got a blue/blue Erebus on order, and I'm looking forward to adding it to my collection.
Great and very honest review. I admire what Jody has done here. The quality looks extremely high for the price. I hope in the future he brings out a more dressy type of diver, perhaps with a sunburst dial and some polished areas which is more to my style, imagine how good the square link bracelet would look if there were some polishing on the inner surfaces of the links (like the Royal Oak). I know it’s a dive watch but total mat finish is just a bit too bland for my taste.
Nice job on your review. Honest and spot on IMHO...with similar observations as I have regarding the logos on the dial and basically not falling for it enough to buy. I'd also much prefer 40mm these days for a diver, though 41mm is fine. I understand most all their choices from a commercial perspective. Good luck to Jody and Mr. P.
I am completely uninspired by this watch. I realize Jody went for the safe pick here on a first effort but this is waaaay too safe and basic for me. I really thought he’d go for a more distinctive look given the praise he has heaped on other micro brands that have done just that. Maybe I’m too far into the watch game by now and need something different or edgy to catch my interest. Still, congrats Jody for going for it.
All respect to Jody. Seeing as its easy to generate various renditions of a watch design, i would try first declutter the bezel markers or just use single baton. Then soften all those facets/angle transitions.
Oooo I have one of these on order! In yellow too! Can't wait to see your honest review of it! also u technically did beat jody to the punch in launching yr own brand of watches 😂
A decent spec watch at a reasonable price from someone I feel i can trust to have put the work in regarding the reliability of the watch. Looking forward to the "blue one" when it arrives!
I'm surprised Jody hasn't commented on this review, as he's commented on all the others. Of course it must feel slightly personal when he's put so much into it, but of course he wants honest feedback! Overall it felt very accurate and I don't think it would put anyone off buying the watch. I'm such a big fan of JOMW that I would order this no matter what, but your review definitely hits on the head why I didn't buy it right away. It's slightly too big for me and it isn't weird enough! But anyway, I'm getting the white polar dial version! Love both your channels, many thanks.
I agree with the black bezel feeling out of place with the color dials, but I did order the blue one. It closely resembles the Pelagos but that’s sort of what I like about it. Very clean look with a reliable movement, and the micro-adjust puts it over the top for me at that price. I’m more in to the bland, “sterile” style of watch though, so this ticks every box for me.
I like it, but being in fancy faze right now I try to wait for version with polished chamfere edges, applied indexes, and silver hands. Than Ill throw 500usd at them.
I like it very much, got that rugged Pelagos tool watch look and looking at it, it will probably take a good hammering in its stride. The black dial version is my favourite. My only gripe is that old Seiko movement, charge me a little more and give me a Miyota 9015. Just as robust, higher beat rate, smoother second hand sweep and more accurate than the Seiko. Said the same thing on Jody’s channel at the launch. Pity as I really do like this watch.
Thanks, Ben, for a bold and honest review. Everyone loves Jody and it would be difficult to not gush over his first offering. I too like or admire almost everything about his watch, and agree the bezel is a letdown. While the rest of the watch's design is clean and functional, the bezel's is needlessly cluttered and busy. The numerals look squashed; better had they been simply smaller. But on the whole, a cracking good watch. Well done, Jody - well reviewed Ben.
Thanks Ben for an honest review, this dial is just not cutting it for me, for you it was the Bezel, I agree a bezel that accentuated the dial may have helped, hell I would take that yellow/fold version and through a nice black leather band on it, but that would clash with the bezel, maybe I would go with the Mr. Wonderful Red Band. But alas, I only viewed this because I am ordering the II version you just reviewed, a much improved effort, and I don't even know this cat, but I know a good watch when I see it, that watch is going in my collectors bin. Its a keeper, I see it more as an evening watch however.
An honest review with none of the toadying seen elsewhere as Y'Tubers blow smoke up each others a***holes. Like Facebook you only get a lot of likes if you do a lot of liking. If we'd got a boys club review from Ben I would have despaired. For me the reviewer I trust most to say as he sees. I've said before he's wasted sticking just to the affordable end of the market. There's much more BS talked by reviewers the higher in price you go as the review fees plus freebies (all to be sold on minutes after the glowing reports) colour opinions. As for the watch it's a safe first go but nothing exceptional. Jody has spent a lot of time talking about good value Ali brands who are beginning to move away from just clomaging the icons. He shouldn't be surprised if people make comparisons in design, manufacture and price with that output.
Id say its a good first offering from jody, but i do agree that i dont like the bezel. Id prefer a cleaner less cluttered bezel insert with minimal numbers save for the 0-15 min markers. I do like the proportions of the hands and the indices. they interact very well with alignment and size as the hands pass over them.
It's a good looking watch with great features for the price, but as you said I'm not really feeling it so far, your review it's probably the most honest I came across so far, now will see what the mad watch collector have as his first watch is due to launch soon as well
Probably the first reviewer who mentioned sterility of the design. I'd say Jody played the first round way too safe and the product looks good on the paper but way too sterile to become appealing. Plus not applied indices or date window for $300 is a bit frustrating. But I still wish Jody a good luck with his new watch brand and looking forward to see bolder moves in the future, as impactful and community-dividing as Omega-Swatch collaboration :D
Completely agree. It is a very safe option and I'd actually go further and say it's a little boring. That being said, it's no lemon. It's a good watch, I'm just not buying one but I very much doubt that it will affect the sales.
If I were Dr. Jody (and sometimes I wish...), I would opt a safe design also. There is no point in getting clobbered on your first outing. I think the texturing of the dial makes up for the slightly busy bezel, and if I didn't have so may responsibilities I would order one right away!
Good review of the watch, I did get the watch, just to support Jody on his endeavour. I think it is always great when someone follows his dreams, and all we can do is support 👍🏽
I think it’s a great launch watch with great specs. plus great value too. The logo does not bother me and was oblivious to your observations of it. I do think the design is a bit safe but then why limit your appeal? Only reason I’m not buying one is I have way too many divers plus some pre-owned micros are around this money. I also really like Jody and have been a massive fan of his channel for years, I wish him all the best because this is a winner. 😁
I strongly agree with this review. Reminds me of this girl at school. Pretty eyes, nice facial structure, good looking hair, but overall - not a stunner. This watch has many pleasant enough components (and I do agree with the criticism on the busy bezel), but all in all, just meh to look at, especially at this price point. I think Jody's biggest enemies may well be the Chinese homages he's rated so highly on his channel for years now. Similar specs, arguably better aesthetics at times, and far more affordable prices. One also has to wonder how long it'll take the Chinese to actually homage Jody's effort, at which point this watch will be truly and utterly done for. Props for the effort. Curious to see how this fares long-term.
Basically it's a standard Seiko or Citizen type watch but with most of the cheap elements or issues fixed. Safe, acceptably priced, and overall a winner. My only gripe is the colors look - I'd rather they be a bit more fancy and less grainy. I'm personally waiting to see what he comes up with in a more dressy watch in the future. Also, props for the colors, though. When was the last time you saw anything other than white, black, or maybe blue?
Just another Chinese made generic dive watch using Japanese parts. For that price I'd go Victorinox, Glycine, Luminox or something more interesting. But each to their own if you fancy an Erebus
This is a good review, the watch is very nicely executed with no flaws, but it didn't quite grab me and I couldn't figure out why, but you called it. The bezels needed to be a little less busy & somehow echo the dial colors (other than the black & blue), that plus a color matched date wheel would have pulled me right in! That said It's, it's a nice watch & Jody seems like a good guy so I hope it succeeds
I think you have to be careful color matching the bezel with some of the colors. Maybe just a partial match for the first 15 minutes or something. I ordered the teal and don't think that would be a good color to have on the bezel as well as the face. It's pretty bright and might be too much! Anyway, new to the watch scene and Jody's channel has given me a lot of insight, so no complaints or hesitation to buy and support his efforts.
Received it Saturday but was out of town. Likes: The teal color is amazing. Photo's do not do it justice. Incredible good legibility on the hands and indicies. Very nice fit and finish. The flat links on the strap shine and reflect light very well and are attractive to look at. The lume is absurd. Disklikes: It is a heavy boy. I mean, DAMN. it is top heavy. I think it would have been better served if the case was titanium vs stainless. I'll probably be putting a nato or FKM strap on it to keep the overall weight to a dull roar. The flat links are a bit hair pully. Room for improvement I think the applied indicies could have been a bit more proud. Regardless of the niggles and moans above, it is a really nice watch and I look forward to wearing it this Spring/Summer in the great outdoors. @@michaelredding6219
That yellow dial is really appealing to me. If Jody comes out with a dateless SKU I'd quite like one. Although if he could squeeze it down to a 38mm dial, that would be even better.
Can't blame them for making a "low risk" design off the bat and executing it well - there would have been far more opportunity to trash their reputation than establish themselves if they'd tried something too ambitious or executed poorly.
I like these. The teal colour doesn't do it for me but then pretty much all my watches are back and white, so that's not saying much. Generally I would have one, and yes probably yhe back and white. For a 1st release this is not bad at all as far as I am concerned.
Appreciate the very honest review. I think Jody will be first to agree he didn’t push the envelope on this design. I still got the white one though. I have a a feeling his third or fourth watch will be much more unique. Thanks again!
I the watch. Good statistics! Great bracelet & an adjustable clasp. Clean textured dial with great lume. & a decent price. If id changed anything. It would be the name & logo would be smaller. It seemed crowded in like an after thought. & maybe something different on the bezel with different numbers & marker styles. The dial has great readability with out any mess to look through. Kinda makes me think field watch. Only with blocks replacing the numbers.
I kinda like the design but I’m not a fan of square markers for the hours or the biggest for very angular industrial divers. It’s a decent-looking watch, but my tastes are just different. I do like the fully indexed bezel tho! I love a useful bezel
I think for the money he’s designed a decent enough watch. But it’s another diver which I know is popular but how many divers does one need in their collection? I’m interested in seeing what Jody comes up with next. I personally would love to see a 39/40 mm dress watch.
It's a very tool tastic template design, kind of like the Tudor Pelagos, the Sinn watches, RZR, BLDR and so. Not a bad design for first watch tho. But still doesn't compare with my spaghetti scammetti 😂. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for the review Ben! Much appreciated mate. Hey, it's no Spaghetti Scametti, but we tried our best. Cheers!
Yo compraría un Erebus, pero las aduanas españolas son muy antipáticas
Long time supporter of your channel but baffled why you chose that name for the brand .What was the thinking behind it ?
You are probably the last of the TH-camrs that Jody asked to do a review, but I think you provided the best review. By that I mean you went over the most details and provided the most nuances, which shows that you really gave this review some thought. Thanks Ben!
Most other reviewers didn't even review it, they talked more about how great Jody is and hope he's successful in his endeavor.
@@gilbertoflores7397 That's because they're brown-nose sycophants with no backbone
@@gilbertoflores7397 i dont know which ones u watch, some reviewers i dont watch for a reason. the only 2 ive seen who did review the Erebus is ben n just the watch, who actually had similar feedback to ben, esp about the design and the bezel.
@@punkypink83 if you watch Jody's launch video he says who he sent them to, and the first few people who made videos first, talked more about how they're good friends with Jody, say he's a great guy and they really hope he succeed with his brand, not being very critical at all, like they normally are, just pure praise, especially when they can be known to nitpick anything ridiculous, especially names, such as "sounds like an std", it's a Chinese watch so it's trash.
@@gilbertoflores7397 i think i know who u mean, and well, i don't watch those guys. i watch only Ben and Just the Watch out of the ones who've gotten the Erebus for review for a good reason.😌
When Jody said in his reveal video that he would be sending you review samples I knew I had to wait for your review. I really appreciate you separating your personal preferences from the objective review. I think I will pick one of these up after your review as I do quite like the look, I was mainly waiting for your take on the fit, finish and value of the watch which I'm grateful that you provided
I like the watch. Yes, not something new in sense of design but the case finish and form are, together with a bracelet, good enough for the money and largely overpass any Seiko at the same price range. We could say that some big names of Japan watch industry are a scam as often they charge a lot over their names and cutting corners big time? It is just my impression. Unknown microbrands are often the best, sometimes bringing some fresh design, sometimes only quality...
I understand that Jody had to be carefull designing his first watch and investing his hard earned money, but because of this, the watch came out a little bit dull. It just does not have this "something", so I will pass this watch. Specs are not everything. Maybe the next one will make my heart beat faster.
Agreed, I’ve been subscribed to Jomw before he hit 10k subscribers and I did not buy this watch. Hopefully the next will be a little more enticing.
Unfortunately I agree.
i'm no businessman but imho the first one had to be a people pleaser. and how do you achieve that? with vanilla design. if he sells out, he'll have cash and experience to push the design a bit more. maaahk from long island watches seems to do the same. lot of people pleaser designs while occasionally throwing in some funky ones
I was banned from making comments on TH-cam for 24 hours because he didn’t like that I said that the dial looked just like my San Martin that was $169, it is the same pebbled dial exactly! I lost all respect for him.
Totally agree
Honest review. I share similar view. I would say it lacks its own character, or the wow factor. Like ticking all the boxes but it still can’t make you pull the trigger
Maybe it looks too familiar to some iconic watches. It makes you feel like you have seen it before. Not an interesting watch. I guess spec itself s not the initial factor that makes people like a watch
@@lcjlcj2739 I agree. If people went just for specs I would stick with homage watches from AE. It does lack the wow factor. Yes, good effort but I think a more daring design, which may also polarise people, is needed to create one's own image and brand. I have recently started buying more Seikos, knowing full well the specs are not great, but also loving the case shapes (and sizes) and dials! As well as Zelos, which are kinda in the same price range...
Great review Ben, I’ve seen the others review the Origin and I’d say you were the most honest in my opinion. Not that anyone else is being disingenuous. Cheers.
Thanks for the feedback!
Peter Kosta was honest too saying that the bracelets shredded the hairs on his forearms.
@@thegorn
Its all about he is Greek..!!!😊
The only frankly honest review of this watch. Not that other reviewers were dishonest, but they were being careful not to hurt the founders or Erebus.
Jody is a good watch reviewer. Is Erebus Origin an interesting watch? That is another question.
Damn, this review made you somehow even more trustworthy. Appreciate not pulling any punches, definitely not a watch to scoff at but certainly is a sterile first attempt.
I appreciate your honest review. I am glad Jody shipped a solid watch. I do, however, echo your concerns on style, and I am glad you were so frank about it. I think my biggest gripe is the handset, which really is just too simple, and that is exasperated by the white outline on white lume on some of the color variants: makes the hour hand look too thick. Never been a fan of flat bezels either.
The build quality looks really good, and plenty of dial options. I do wish they pushed the envelope a bit, but it’s a great start.
yeah dial fume and tritium
Gotta start with a safe staple product to pin down the brand and audience before pushing the envelope!
@@PhilBot4OOO Agree, making a sort of Helm Vanuatu 'homage' is incredibly smart for the first release..
Poor movement for the money, you could get a 4hz movement for the price.
Aliexpress is riddled with better, cheaper and nicer choices for that price point.
Im getting the yellow one, i just love the overall design. Been looking for a steel watch for a long time🤩
By far best review so far of these watches! Solid video Ben!
Like always, a review full of great insights delivered with integrity ! Your channel and Dave's from Just the Watch are my favourite ones, reasonably priced watches for reasonable folks ! Cheers.
Is it me or do the 0’s on the 30 and 40 minute markers on the bezel look wonky? More so on the light blue/aqua one? (8:15)
Great review. Actually the one I have been waiting for. You kind of reinforced my own thoughts on the design.
"Erebus Origin Collection Pre-Sale Extended!" Who would have guessed that?!
Outstanding video.I have to go with the MAMACOO, especially with that green dial as my favorite
Great and honest review Ben. I ordered the purple with strap pack on launch day, both because the design appealed to me, and as a long time fan of Jody’s channel, with spare cash, it felt right to show support. Even if it doesn’t end up as my go to or favourite watch in my collection, it’ll be a solid addition nonetheless!
IT's the fact that it has a decent movement inside it that will make it probably last a lot longer than most people think it will. And as far as small brands, the reality is that almost everyone uses the same half dozen cheap movements in their "luxury" watches. So why pay $1500 for the same movement in some designer brand? :)
I would have liked to see two versions, a 38 or 39mm, and a 42 or 43mm. There is just too much dial at 41mm for me, but it seems very nice overall.
Totally agree Ben ...it's too vanilla for me too. It's nice....I like it...but it doesn't excite me enough to part with £270. Phoibos, Zelos regularly do force me to part with my hard earned money. This is a good solid start from Jody...but it's not one for me.
Or a Citizen Promaster NY0040
Great review and I am with you on this. To my eye it's the skin diver size bezel on a full size dive watch which makes the markers look a bit small. I'm a fan of JOMW and it's great first watch, but I'll wait and see what's next.
Great review Ben, wonderful watch for sure
I waited for this video since the first announcement of the Origin, and here it is. The sizing aside you put all in words what I was thinking before. Awesome specs, good execution but just not my cup of tea.
Waiting for Jody's next watch and your next review. Keep up the good work 👍
Ben. You nailed it. Like you, I'm a Jody fan, I live 20 minutes from where he lives and have been a subscriber to his channel since virtually the beginning. I was excited when he teased his new endeavour but when I saw it a was a bit... meh...
It's a great first effort and I fully understand why they released a watch of this style but after buying several dive watches on his recommendations over the years, I don't want or need another diver. A quick watchbox check reveals a Steinhart, 2 x Seiko Prospex, a Helm and a an Bulova/Accutron (pre Jody). Plus my other 6 or 7 other watches.
Nice dial, nice clasp and bracelet but for $300 with an NH-35, I can't justify it to myself. Jody, if you read this I hope you kill it with the Origin and aren't a victim of your own success in a much as we've already spent all our money on similar watches you've recommended previously...
Well, for me it is another generic watch made in China. So the price is too high too. I prefer a Casio or a Tissot. But good and honest review.
Here's the dirty secret of the industry. Almost all of it is made in China aside from the movement, then assembled in the country of origin, allowing it to be "Swiss" or "Japan" or similar. So It's a basic Seiko movement in very similar case as the rest. I'd certainly rather pay $299 for this over $299 for a quartz Tissot. The market is awash in those cheap little ETA movements with even cheaper cases and bracelets.
I'm surprised that of all the guys who have reviewed the Erebus Origin so far, only Dave at Just the Watch has mentioned the design of the hands and dial, and the satisfying way the hands line up with the indices. It's my favorite feature and to me, it's what sets it apart from being "just another dive watch."
When Jody did his preview video you knew where his inspiration was coming from so it was no surprise it ended up looking similar to the Helm Vanuatu but without the wait list. It's a great first effort but UK buyers could end up paying around £350 after import costs and there's a lot of decent options out there at that price. I hope it does well and look forward to seeing what comes next.
My time for having a Vanuatu, after two years of waiting has just come and while I'm not getting it, as hype is long gone, this is nowhere near it, mind you. "Inspired"... Yeah, Jody is a businessman, all right, and his partner even more so, but the Vanuatu is absolutely superior to this in every single way, there is no comparison whatsoever. Most of all, there's the take it or leave it vibe that goes with it. This, on the other hand, is a fucking circus that aims to appeal to every single possible customer out there, just for the sake of making a sale. Nothing in the design language is consistent, there is not a single aspect of this that's attractive in an already crowded niche. And I liked Jody more a couple of years ago.
@@procopy I got my Vanuatu a couple of months back after a two year wait and even though it's now a 7 year old design it was well worth the wait. Jody is well aware of the supply issues with Helm, he probably contributed to the hype. I think this is an attempt to poach business from impatient Helm fans as the Origin has many design elements of the Vanuatu including the logo. The watch is okay but it's simply not as well executed.
@@S-Ltd1000 See, problem with waiting lists is, in most cases you can have the thing for a little extra on ebay. As far as Helm is related, there is no shortage of Vanuatus on ebay at any given time - either by flippers or people who have had enough of it. And I like its design, I really do. Should it pop for a low enough price, I'll grab it. I don't like anything about the Origin, though. Not sure what Jody's concept was/is, but this watch looks as generic and Chinese (in every possible sense of that term), as any other diver you'd find on Ali. There is no soul, no character, nothing that can get one going "Man, this is damn cool". To me, it is an example of what happens when ulterior profit motives take over product concept. And I can hardly believe someone who has gone over thousand watches gets aroused by its own creation.
@@S-Ltd1000 Is ‘poaching other companies business’ by copying their design with the excuse that they have supply issues really the ethos you want in a start-up?
Thanks, Ben! I've been watching this review, seeing the level of finishing, thinking of the specs, and the price... now I've got to get this Oceanus!
Excellent review of a nice watch (specially the yellow dial), HOWEVER... the $300 price tag means it won't be on my shopping list any time soon. There are at least a dozen or so microbrands offering NH35-based dive watches with similar specs, so Erebus is going to have a hard time carving out some market share in that segment.
I think your review is the best and most detailed review yet. They style is the deal breaker for me here too. Just too generic and comes across as a box ticking design for the people that subscribe to his channel. Something about the printed dial looks a little cheap as well. I see watches like this and I think "still good for the price" but also, "I might as well save up a little more and getting something I really want".....
I have the same sentiment. It's undoubtedly a great watch - and if it was better looking, I'd have bought one.
The good news is they seem to have been selling really well, so if the customers do indeed come - and stay - we have a lot to look forward to.
Good first effort, I hope Jody sells out but agree the design is not quite yet there for me either. Also hope he considers selling just the case for the modding community, because that is a really good looking case/bracelet.
Hopefully it's a standard 28.5mm Seiko dial size so we can stick a better dial in there. Date at 6 is non standard though.
Great video Ben. Hate the colour of these watches but hard to argue for the price
Only just seen this Tony, haha, will see you in a few weeks!
I enjoyed your review, it was very detailed, and for the most part fair. I have to disagree with your style rating. I find most dive watches sacrificing readability for "out there" style choices. For example, in your 10 sub $200 dive watch review you linked us to, I find most of those watches a lot less legible and usable than Jodi's Erebus watch. I think the primary goal of a dive watch is to be EXTRA legible under water. The only watch in your dive watch roundup that is close to the legibility of the Erebus is the Orient Kamasu.
I find the Erebus's sharp, ultra legible styling more compelling than most dive watches. The design style feels like a Sinn 556 was turned into a dive watch. Nobody calls that watch "plain", but it's balance and ultra-legibility speaks to me.
I'd personally give the Erebus a style rating of 9/10. I think the 6.3/10 you gave it is just too low....there is too much subjective bias in your style rating.
I've got a blue/blue Erebus on order, and I'm looking forward to adding it to my collection.
As far as first efforts go, this one is a winner. Ordered the white version.
Great and very honest review. I admire what Jody has done here. The quality looks extremely high for the price. I hope in the future he brings out a more dressy type of diver,
perhaps with a sunburst dial and some polished areas which is more to my style, imagine how good the square link bracelet would look if there were some polishing on the inner surfaces of the links (like the Royal Oak). I know it’s a dive watch but total mat finish is just a bit too bland for my taste.
I like the design and ordered a yellow. Believe it or not, it is going to be my first NH35 watch :)
I love the bold and elegant simplicity of these watches. I may well buy one at some point. Yellow for me 💛 Well done to Jody!
Nice job on your review. Honest and spot on IMHO...with similar observations as I have regarding the logos on the dial and basically not falling for it enough to buy. I'd also much prefer 40mm these days for a diver, though 41mm is fine. I understand most all their choices from a commercial perspective. Good luck to Jody and Mr. P.
I am completely uninspired by this watch. I realize Jody went for the safe pick here on a first effort but this is waaaay too safe and basic for me. I really thought he’d go for a more distinctive look given the praise he has heaped on other micro brands that have done just that. Maybe I’m too far into the watch game by now and need something different or edgy to catch my interest. Still, congrats Jody for going for it.
All respect to Jody. Seeing as its easy to generate various renditions of a watch design, i would try first declutter the bezel markers or just use single baton. Then soften all those facets/angle transitions.
Hell, I waited so long for this review. It is really insightful. Good job.
Glad you liked it!
Oooo I have one of these on order! In yellow too! Can't wait to see your honest review of it!
also u technically did beat jody to the punch in launching yr own brand of watches 😂
I'll be scooping. I like the blue lume vs the green lume.
A decent spec watch at a reasonable price from someone I feel i can trust to have put the work in regarding the reliability of the watch. Looking forward to the "blue one" when it arrives!
I'm surprised Jody hasn't commented on this review, as he's commented on all the others. Of course it must feel slightly personal when he's put so much into it, but of course he wants honest feedback! Overall it felt very accurate and I don't think it would put anyone off buying the watch. I'm such a big fan of JOMW that I would order this no matter what, but your review definitely hits on the head why I didn't buy it right away. It's slightly too big for me and it isn't weird enough! But anyway, I'm getting the white polar dial version! Love both your channels, many thanks.
I agree with the black bezel feeling out of place with the color dials, but I did order the blue one. It closely resembles the Pelagos but that’s sort of what I like about it. Very clean look with a reliable movement, and the micro-adjust puts it over the top for me at that price. I’m more in to the bland, “sterile” style of watch though, so this ticks every box for me.
Such a bland watch. Who pays $300 for this? Good on you, Ben, for calling out the weak design. A good, honest review.
Its hard getting a first watch perfect, dont want it to be too specialist but happy the miyota 9000 was used, also good materials.
If smaller (36-38mm), less detailed and maybe more rounded bezel, instant buy.
I like it, but being in fancy faze right now I try to wait for version with polished chamfere edges, applied indexes, and silver hands. Than Ill throw 500usd at them.
I like it very much, got that rugged Pelagos tool watch look and looking at it, it will probably take a good hammering in its stride. The black dial version is my favourite. My only gripe is that old Seiko movement, charge me a little more and give me a Miyota 9015. Just as robust, higher beat rate, smoother second hand sweep and more accurate than the Seiko. Said the same thing on Jody’s channel at the launch. Pity as I really do like this watch.
There you have it! Spot on review. Thanks!!
Great review and the watch looks pretty darn sweet! Thanks!
Thanks, Ben, for a bold and honest review. Everyone loves Jody and it would be difficult to not gush over his first offering.
I too like or admire almost everything about his watch, and agree the bezel is a letdown. While the rest of the watch's design is clean and functional, the bezel's is needlessly cluttered and busy. The numerals look squashed; better had they been simply smaller.
But on the whole, a cracking good watch. Well done, Jody - well reviewed Ben.
Thanks Ben for an honest review, this dial is just not cutting it for me, for you it was the Bezel, I agree a bezel that accentuated the dial may have helped, hell I would take that yellow/fold version and through a nice black leather band on it, but that would clash with the bezel, maybe I would go with the Mr. Wonderful Red Band. But alas, I only viewed this because I am ordering the II version you just reviewed, a much improved effort, and I don't even know this cat, but I know a good watch when I see it, that watch is going in my collectors bin. Its a keeper, I see it more as an evening watch however.
You said the bezel was absent of back play but it seems to me when you were showing us it had a far bit of forward and back play
I'll definitely be getting one of these.
5:17 WOW!
THANK YOU FOR THIS ONE!
Para ser su primer reloj superó mis espectativas, tus reseñas siempre son muy criteriosas y valiosas, saludos 👍
An honest review with none of the toadying seen elsewhere as Y'Tubers blow smoke up each others a***holes. Like Facebook you only get a lot of likes if you do a lot of liking. If we'd got a boys club review from Ben I would have despaired. For me the reviewer I trust most to say as he sees. I've said before he's wasted sticking just to the affordable end of the market. There's much more BS talked by reviewers the higher in price you go as the review fees plus freebies (all to be sold on minutes after the glowing reports) colour opinions. As for the watch it's a safe first go but nothing exceptional. Jody has spent a lot of time talking about good value Ali brands who are beginning to move away from just clomaging the icons. He shouldn't be surprised if people make comparisons in design, manufacture and price with that output.
I agree,Ben! Really good review!
Truly appreciate the honest review and I agree 100% of everything you said...
Id say its a good first offering from jody, but i do agree that i dont like the bezel. Id prefer a cleaner less cluttered bezel insert with minimal numbers save for the 0-15 min markers. I do like the proportions of the hands and the indices. they interact very well with alignment and size as the hands pass over them.
Hats off to Jody and I wish him every success, BUT, am I the only one getting a bit bored with generic dive watches.
It's a good looking watch with great features for the price, but as you said I'm not really feeling it so far, your review it's probably the most honest I came across so far, now will see what the mad watch collector have as his first watch is due to launch soon as well
Good review, I wasn’t sure why I haven’t jumped on this but for some reason they are not talking to me.
Probably the first reviewer who mentioned sterility of the design. I'd say Jody played the first round way too safe and the product looks good on the paper but way too sterile to become appealing. Plus not applied indices or date window for $300 is a bit frustrating. But I still wish Jody a good luck with his new watch brand and looking forward to see bolder moves in the future, as impactful and community-dividing as Omega-Swatch collaboration :D
Completely agree. It is a very safe option and I'd actually go further and say it's a little boring. That being said, it's no lemon. It's a good watch, I'm just not buying one but I very much doubt that it will affect the sales.
Great review Ben!
If I were Dr. Jody (and sometimes I wish...), I would opt a safe design also. There is no point in getting clobbered on your first outing. I think the texturing of the dial makes up for the slightly busy bezel, and if I didn't have so may responsibilities I would order one right away!
Good review of the watch, I did get the watch, just to support Jody on his endeavour. I think it is always great when someone follows his dreams, and all we can do is support 👍🏽
I think it’s a great launch watch with great specs. plus great value too. The logo does not bother me and was oblivious to your observations of it. I do think the design is a bit safe but then why limit your appeal? Only reason I’m not buying one is I have way too many divers plus some pre-owned micros are around this money. I also really like Jody and have been a massive fan of his channel for years, I wish him all the best because this is a winner. 😁
I love the looks, quality seems great as well. Would definitely buy.
Its beautiful. One solid B, it doesn't reinvent anything new look but it sure does execute well what simple it does.
I really like the case and flat band. Maybe polished next time? Style is good. Pretty good for the first time out.
I strongly agree with this review. Reminds me of this girl at school. Pretty eyes, nice facial structure, good looking hair, but overall - not a stunner. This watch has many pleasant enough components (and I do agree with the criticism on the busy bezel), but all in all, just meh to look at, especially at this price point. I think Jody's biggest enemies may well be the Chinese homages he's rated so highly on his channel for years now. Similar specs, arguably better aesthetics at times, and far more affordable prices. One also has to wonder how long it'll take the Chinese to actually homage Jody's effort, at which point this watch will be truly and utterly done for. Props for the effort. Curious to see how this fares long-term.
Basically it's a standard Seiko or Citizen type watch but with most of the cheap elements or issues fixed. Safe, acceptably priced, and overall a winner. My only gripe is the colors look - I'd rather they be a bit more fancy and less grainy. I'm personally waiting to see what he comes up with in a more dressy watch in the future.
Also, props for the colors, though. When was the last time you saw anything other than white, black, or maybe blue?
I like the look of the watch but I have tiny wrist and this would never work
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Thanks for the heads up, fixed!
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Two of my favorite watch guys collaborating ❤
Just another Chinese made generic dive watch using Japanese parts. For that price I'd go Victorinox, Glycine, Luminox or something more interesting. But each to their own if you fancy an Erebus
Great review Ben
This is a good review, the watch is very nicely executed with no flaws, but it didn't quite grab me and I couldn't figure out why, but you called it. The bezels needed to be a little less busy & somehow echo the dial colors (other than the black & blue), that plus a color matched date wheel would have pulled me right in! That said It's, it's a nice watch & Jody seems like a good guy so I hope it succeeds
I think you have to be careful color matching the bezel with some of the colors. Maybe just a partial match for the first 15 minutes or something. I ordered the teal and don't think that would be a good color to have on the bezel as well as the face. It's pretty bright and might be too much!
Anyway, new to the watch scene and Jody's channel has given me a lot of insight, so no complaints or hesitation to buy and support his efforts.
Jody's channel is terrific, hope you enjoy your new watch!
Received it Saturday but was out of town.
Likes:
The teal color is amazing. Photo's do not do it justice.
Incredible good legibility on the hands and indicies.
Very nice fit and finish.
The flat links on the strap shine and reflect light very well and are attractive to look at.
The lume is absurd.
Disklikes:
It is a heavy boy. I mean, DAMN. it is top heavy.
I think it would have been better served if the case was titanium vs stainless. I'll probably be putting a nato or FKM strap on it to keep the overall weight to a dull roar.
The flat links are a bit hair pully.
Room for improvement
I think the applied indicies could have been a bit more proud.
Regardless of the niggles and moans above, it is a really nice watch and I look forward to wearing it this Spring/Summer in the great outdoors.
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That yellow dial is really appealing to me. If Jody comes out with a dateless SKU I'd quite like one. Although if he could squeeze it down to a 38mm dial, that would be even better.
Big kudos for the objectivity!
Can't blame them for making a "low risk" design off the bat and executing it well - there would have been far more opportunity to trash their reputation than establish themselves if they'd tried something too ambitious or executed poorly.
I like these. The teal colour doesn't do it for me but then pretty much all my watches are back and white, so that's not saying much. Generally I would have one, and yes probably yhe back and white.
For a 1st release this is not bad at all as far as I am concerned.
It's a great first entry, i just think those indicies are a little too small. The main dial looks empty, but too crowded on the outer edges.
Appreciate the very honest review. I think Jody will be first to agree he didn’t push the envelope on this design. I still got the white one though. I have a a feeling his third or fourth watch will be much more unique. Thanks again!
Having the latest Zelos Swordfish drop at the same time, same price, minus shipping kinda swayed me towards the Zelos. Maybe the next Erebus for me.
I the watch. Good statistics! Great bracelet & an adjustable clasp. Clean textured dial with great lume. & a decent price.
If id changed anything. It would be the name & logo would be smaller. It seemed crowded in like an after thought. & maybe something different on the bezel with different numbers & marker styles.
The dial has great readability with out any mess to look through. Kinda makes me think field watch. Only with blocks replacing the numbers.
Excellent review, very fair.
It is “just one more Watch “ on the market . Nothing else.
I deliberately bought a watch the Jody called a "hoofer", so I'm also not inclined to agree with him on style too much
I kinda like the design but I’m not a fan of square markers for the hours or the biggest for very angular industrial divers. It’s a decent-looking watch, but my tastes are just different.
I do like the fully indexed bezel tho! I love a useful bezel
I think for the money he’s designed a decent enough watch. But it’s another diver which I know is popular but how many divers does one need in their collection? I’m interested in seeing what Jody comes up with next. I personally would love to see a 39/40 mm dress watch.
Yes, please, dress watch 38-40mm.
The bezel is quite similar to the on the Marathon GSAR in looks. Still a decent looking watch.
It's a very tool tastic template design, kind of like the Tudor Pelagos, the Sinn watches, RZR, BLDR and so. Not a bad design for first watch tho. But still doesn't compare with my spaghetti scammetti 😂.
Thank you for the video.
Only thing I disagree with is that I like the placement and size of the logo. Good video.
I think font on bezel not bold enough. Doesn’t match the chunky hands.