An egg is not a bird but if I steal the eggs of an endangered bird I can be thrown in prison. This "it's not a baby yet, it's just a clump of cells," is such a crock. We value birds more than babies.
And God is in the process of forming someone. The same way an artist takes a lump of clay and is sculpting it. It may not be the masterpiece yet, but I AM still in the process of forming it.
Eggs may well contain birds. That argument is absurd because the egg is nonliving matter that the bird uses to help them survive. The analogue would be saying “is your hair a person?! No?! well since you’re under some hair you can’t be a person!”
Long before I accepted Christ and became a christian I got pregnant, I was unmarried and the father was not someone I would want to raise my child (not a good guy if you get what I'm saying) and he didn't want to anyways, my boss at the time tried to pressure me into having an abortion, I thought about it but never did, I couldn't bring myself to even though the thought of having and taking care of a child on my own at 23 was scary, 8 years later I have the most AMAZING, loving, kind, smart son who is on fire for the Lord, and I'm married to a man who loves him just like his own. I believe the Lord, knowing I would come to him, was already there with me, helping me to be strong and make the right choice. The thought that it would have been so easy to go through with an abortion and this amazing child I have could have never had the chance to even LIVE haunts me, because I know how many DON'T get the chance and it breaks my heart!
Mary wow! I had the same story except 33 years ago! That boy is now 33! I remember I even wished I could abort him but couldn't because I knew it was wrong. I was terrified! I was alone and not following Christ as I should, but still prayed. I've been married to the father now for 33 years. Initially he didn't want to get married but he changed because I believe God worked on him. Btw.....this was my first child and I was in the Navy serving in Scotland. 1980s no Government support for single motherhood!
@@KM-zn3lx hello sister! We are not alone, there are SO many young single mothers who choose to do the right thing, and keeping it and raising it yourself aren't even the only options, this is why I have ZERO understanding for those who choose abortion, if you don't think you CAN take care of it is not difficult to give your baby up for adoption, there are SO many loving people out there who would do anything to take care of raise your baby as their own. There really is no reason for abortion unless the mother's life is truly in danger and it's too early for the baby to survive outside the womb, that is the ONLY reason I can see for abortion, if the pregnancy will end in death of BOTH the baby and mother.
Honestly, you'd think the mother that decides to keep her kid and raise them probably needs Jesus to be with her more than the Woman who defies life itself for her own selfish desires. Actually, I take that back, the woman who so freely kills NEEDS Jesus more.... Actually forget all of that, we ALL need Jesus!
When you made the point that when a friend has a miscarriage you wouldn't say to them "Don't worry it's just a clump of cells" it gave me the chills. It is so true. Our society has really dehumanized unborn babies.
She blocked me on Instagram too for commenting on it. She doesn't want to hear the truth or even give it the slightest chance. I'll pray that God opens her closed heart to the Gospel message
And that's why people need to get married and start families, because a child is not a negative consequence, but a blessing. We should WELCOME God's blessings! The world desperately needs Christ.
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They'd use rape as an excuse to have an abortion. So what would we say?
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen exposing this issue. Before I became a Christian, I contemplated abortion, due to being 19 at the time. I had it scheduled, and a few days before the procedure I became extremely depressed and felt that it was wrong. Now, I have an amazing 8 year old who believes in christ too! ❤❤❤
First our hearts break for the baby, always. Let's not forget those women who've had abortions and have repented and struggle with it daily. I received a heart wrenching message (under an abortion video I made) from a woman who is a repentant Follower of Christ and seeking comfort in fellowship as she stated: "I can't let it go." Those are the often forgotten survivors in the abortion debate. Let's remember these women and always know that "none are righteous, no, not (even) one." We're all in the same boat together. God bless all! -Brad
Honestly, that's what I thought maybe the artist wanted to convey - not that Christ condoned the abortion but that he would be with the woman through the hard times afterwards as she dealt with guilt etc... but knowing she wouldn't engage with Mike and others about it decreases the chances for that "best case scenario"
@@gabe_in_taiwan You may have been initially too optimistic about the artist, since the images show the woman undergoing the abortion -- not reflecting on a past abortion.
Yes! So many women have had abortions, compassion for them needs to be at the forefront of the pro life movement. A lot of them were pressured into it, lied to and so on. How many of us have only made good choices especially under duress.
@@sharroon7574 It's always been my dream to be a mother. I asked God to help me not be so angry at women who have had abortions. I actually had a dream about a woman who was in an abusive relationship, got an abortion and thought she was getting on with her life peacefully. (She was knocked out for the procedure and had no idea what happened. I was outside the building, hearing her thoughts.) She was at peace, or so she thought. There was a dark cloud looming over her conscience and she was sad but "ok for now". Then she was on the couch and I was sitting next to her (as if we're on two different wavelengths, or spiritual planes. She was unaware of my presence) watching a kind of documentary. There was a pastor or a rabbi talking about an abortion. The woman, who was very beautiful and innocent, was sobbing, just saying "I'm sorry." to her baby after every detail the man explained. I felt all of this woman's emotions. Ever since then, whenever I get angry at the women who go through this awful procedure, I remember the woman in my dream. Maybe they, like her just didn't know what they did. They too are a victim in this in a different way.
@@VictorianMetalGirl that may be the case for some, but the vast majority know what they're doing, it's murder. Even if they didn't fully know, they still know what happened and there must be repentance and justice for the action.
I know this wouldnt go well with some. But if someone could post a real photo of a dismembered aborted baby on her page with the words "is Jesus for this?" That might get the point across.
Mike, you do such a good job in your videos. You ground everything with Scripture, you focus on the truth in all situations, you are humble, polite, and consider others' point of view. I wish we could have you come and speak at our church on a variety of issues, especially the importance of seeking the truth. Good job. God bless
What’s interesting is would this artist do this with Mohammed? Or Buddha? I don’t think so. There is tolerance for all of those beliefs, just not Jesus. And if it is out there, as with this, it is with complete disrespect and twisting Jesus into people’s own imaginations that support their politics. Jesus does show forgiveness and compassion to women who have had abortions, but no, it is against His character to support killing His creation, a soul.
What I love is how TH-cam's "misinformation" tag on this video tries and define abortion and literally says "To end a pregnancy." So glad TH-cam swooped in and help prove your point.
The word "clump" fails to admit to the amazing complexity and information in any living thing, even a bacterial biofilm. It's like saying. 747 is a pile of plastic and metal.
I've never been proAbortion at any stage in my life. It's wicked. And I never cry. I can count maybe a handful of times I've been brought to tears. That short clip crippled me. I am thankful we have a loving and forgiving God who can make things right, but we must stop abortion. So horrible.
I wonder if the pro abortionists who use the term fetus (to play down the personhood of the unborn baby) realise that a fetus is latin for offspring (i.e. a human child)...the amount of times I have heard this term thrown around by pro abortionists makes me think not.... Great video.
Mike, thank you so much for all you do. I’m so grateful that you’re willing to put together a video like this. I cried and I feel sick after watching it, but it is so needed. I know that if anyone is on the fence this will help them, I pray.
Out if all the Christians I follow, your thoughtful, biblical commentary is so helpful to me. I have a cousin, friend and sister-in-law who are very angry with me for my position on abortion. I believe I have presented my argument in a loving, factual way. It doesn't seem to matter, they become so emotional that they refuse to speak to me about this topic. 💔
I watched this live for a time last evening. Sorry, when you mentioned the images toward the end, I had to leave. Once, I was pro choice, and I am horribly ashamed of myself. Although I have never had an abortion-and I was an unwed mother with a wonderful son who I adore even as a pro choice person-I am horrified at the thought of actually murdering a child, much less a 9 month old infant (per New York's recent abortion change.) As a reborn Christian, it makes me incredibly sad, and that art work is startling, I would never image anyone creating such nonsense. Good for you, Mike, for standing up for those little ones who had no choice in the matter. May God richly bless your ministry and keep you safe in his hands.
Dude you had so much conviction in your facial expressions after that video, that I was completely sold on what you had to say even though there was no audio! Well done!
Pastor Mike, I’m a Catholic, so I disagree with you on many theological and historical items. But I know that you’re a man after God’s heart. I can tell from your videos that you love Jesus, and I’m so glad I can stand with you on this important topic.
Dakota....I haven't. Everytime this topic has come up I say my opinion. Because if I don't people think I'm progressive for some reason. Also spoke out against abortion during my college days from the baby's perspective. It took all my guts to do so because it was brutally graphic!
I was born at 24 weeks gestation in 1990. My mom was told to prepare for the worst because there was a less than 5% chance of survival with any & all cognitive & physical “dysfunctions” known. I lived in the NICU for the first 5 months of my life, nearly dying every single day, only to go home a week or so after my due date with heart monitors and still ventilated. I am here because my God wants me here, because He gave me life. I have had people tell me to my face before they know my birth story that abortion should be legalized until at *least* 24 weeks due to brain development, etc. & they never have an answer when I ask them if they believe, then, that I should be dead because I am here when “scientifically” I shouldn’t be. They never have a real answer as to whether my mom & the NICU team should have just left me and my twin sister to die because are still alive & neuro-typical.
Bless you sister. Glad to have you in the world. You can't really expect to get a good answer to your question from ardent pro-choice advocates. Many of them are all about diminishing the value of life in the womb. To honestly answer your question they have to assess the value of life at different stages of gestation. Many of them simply don't want to go there.
This is a very sad topic and one which renders me speechless as both the topic and the 'art' make me angry, sad and despair. Thank you for discussing it as I could see it was affecting you a lot. God bless you for this ministry.
Love how Mike addresses that pro choicers try to make it a pro lifers responsibility to provide for the baby. So many things to be said about that issue, but Mike is the first person I've heard even mention this as a ridiculous expectation.
Pro-death advocates always tell me I can't have a voice in this issue because I'm not a woman. Funny, back in high school we had a debate on this issue in one of my classes. Every single girl in the debate sided with life.
You absolutely do have a voice in it because you are a human, and a present or possibly future father. I'm a woman and I hate when women say that men can't have a voice in it, like men can't care about babies.
Excellent teaching. I respectfully suggest that we always refer to these people as "pro-abortion", never "pro-choice". Pro-abortion advocates must be pleased that we are adopting their language that places a "positive" spin on the murder of babies. The thought of "choice" and "freedom" are very positive concepts in the minds of Americans therefore it's a very effective strategy.
Thank you for the answer on the importance of prolife in politics. I completely agree with you. I´m from Sweden, and not one of our main political parties opposes abortion, not even the "christian democrats". None of the larger churches here opposes abortion openly. It´s horrible. Thank you for standing strong on this issue, it makes me feel less alone.
@@thegiantbeagle In Sweden? Worse, not one party officially opposes abortion, and some have suggested making the "right to abortion" a foundational law, like a constitutional right. There are a few voices opposing abortion, but even most denominations do not speak on the topic. It´s not that they agree with it, it´s that they will not even talk about it, for fear of pushing people away. There are more people in the swedish christian sphere that pushes for us working together as a church against climate change than to save babies from death.
Disturbing story from South Bend, Indiana (winter, 2019) - After the death of a doctor who performed legal abortions throughout NW Indiana and NE Illinois, 2,500 medically preserved remains of aborted fetuses were discovered at the garage at his home and elsewhere among his belongings. It was interesting to hear the uproar of protest and criticism from abortion supporters who somehow found this admittedly horrible collection to be immoral. It was as if the preserved remains deserved more respect and honor than the living babies who were killed. Moreover, it was considered an affront to the mothers who had sought to eliminate the evidence of their actions. It’s as if they were suggesting that it is better to destroy and discard the unwanted ‘tissue’ than to preserve it. By what moral measure does this make any sense at all? The abortion supporters seemed to be saying that mothers had a right to deprive an unborn child of the gift of life, yet society should excoriate the reputation of the man who failed to properly dispose of the lifeless remains. Very troubling scenario from many perspectives.
Funny, why should they care about these babies, they're just "lumps of cells" right?? Who cares if a doctor kept "lumps of cells" in jars? lol, they don't believe that for one second. I've even heard some anti-lifers say "Okay, it is a life, but it's the mother's right to terminate it!" There's only two types of people who support abortions... The ignorant, and the psychopaths.
I am so glad prochoice people get responsible after conception in worrying about their life and health, maybe they should try it before conception as well.
People aren't artists anymore. The people making these comics are people who know how to make basic doodles and push propaganda. Unlike the artists of the past who would be proud in speaking about what their actual art meant.
The best thing about Mike is what he chooses not to say. He could easily have gone down the road of attacking the artist’s lack of talent and the low quality but that would just make her angry. I wish I was that tactful.
@@ronglennproductions5416 Sure, and that never works. But that's not what I was saying. Even a low quality drawing can be true art with a message. The difference is that these aren't pieces of art meant to convey a deeper message when you look into it. They're simple doodles meant to push propaganda.
Thank you so much for this video Pastor Mike. The clip that you show was very eye opening and even though it was very hard to watch I think that it was good to show what abortion actually does. Also love your videos. Been watching for a long time and you are always thoughtful and careful to explain the topics you talk about. Thank you so much. God bless you brother!
It’s pathetic how people are being lead in the wide path of destruction by other people who think they know Jesus ...But the word of God is being fulfilled right before everyone’s eyes
Praying for the Holy Spirit to reveal Himself to pro-choice people to show them the error of their ways. It’s so heartbreaking to see people treat the unborn as though they’re worthless.
I had my first baby at 16 (after my family tried to force me to have an abortion). Once a week I drive past a packed abortion clinic to serve at our local pregnancy center educating, counseling, doing ultrasounds, pregnancy tests, and TRULY supporting women. 99% are so deceived. They literally have no idea the reality of abortion and are shocked when we gently inform them (using unbiased procedure information from a government website). Such evil. Breaks my heart and makes me thank God he saved me from this evil and destruction of not just my baby but I’m sure it would have destroyed me as well.
"a clump of cells" shocks me because I remember when the uterus was a "black box" that we couldn't see the inside of, and even then, everybody who knew where babies come from knew that life begins at conception. When I was a kid, I saw the "pickled babies" at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago - gross but also fascinating. They were aborted fetuses (naturally aborted, because something went wrong with the baby or the mother's body). The really cool thing was to see how complete the baby was within days and weeks of conception. The idea that life does not begin at conception is a new one, created to defend the industry of abortion and to promote promiscuity without consequences. The idea that we don't know when life begins, or that individuals can decide at what age a baby magically starts to be a human being or a person, is a ridiculous retrograde on science.
There's someone else missing in this particular picture, which seems to be missing from all pictures concerning woman's right to abort a child, is the man, the father of the child, does not the man have the right also in the choice of the child that she is carrying, how in this can she then have 100% ownership when a child is created by both man and woman.
Up front I am pro life 100%. I've worked on crisis pregnancy hotlines and it's riddled with illogical broken thought processes of belief in the person who is considering abortion. As a Christian I often hear what was said here... a belief that aborted babies are in heaven with Jesus. I cling to this belief as well. But that belief can sure make it difficult when trying to convince women who have experienced abuse to consider having their babies. So often you hear girls and women in a crisis pregnancy situation say at least their baby would be with Jesus if she aborted instead of ... fill in the blank with their own suffering experience of life. It is difficult to convince these women God will provide for them and their baby if they just trust in Him. They look at you like what world do you live in lady cause it's not my world. Sigh 😞 When pressed to reconsider and that you can help them change their life and make a better life for their child they will often say something like "I messed up but I don't want my baby to pay for my stupid mistake of getting pregnant and have to live in this world". It's heartbreaking 💔 It's just the way it is. Sometimes you simply pray over them that Jesus will intervene and open their eyes to believing and knowing that good can come from choosing to have this child. You pray that this choice for life will be the turning point in their life and ask God to send people into their life to love and provide for her and her baby. It's amazing how that one belief that the aborted babies go straight to heaven can be the lifeline of justification that they want good for their baby and they are saving it from a horrible world. Mental and emotional gymnastics of a desperate person.
33:34 Part of the problem here is varying moral systems - sympathy-based morality and justice-based morality (see also Kohlberg vs Gilligan). The problem with a sympathy-based morality is that it all depends on where the sympathy is focused. Under such a system it makes sense that arguments would largely consist of sympathy pleas for one party and calloused, detached (or hostile) framing of any competing interest.
The thing you said about silencing the opposition is so true. I posted something showing my support for the Supreme court decision of overturning Roe v Wade, and I got back lash over it of people messaging me and leaving me comments. The thing is, I'm totally happy to respond to comments and have an open discussion. I don't censor and don't delete people's comments even if I don't agree, instead I simply tell them why I disagree. But the thing I was confused about was people would leave their comment and then immediately block me. It was like they didn't even want to have a discussion. They wanted to silence all opposing voices. I was confused at first why they would block me, now it's very clear to me why.
Mike, God is with you. Matthew 18:10, 14 KJV Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. Love you brother.
Far too many people use Jesus as a doormat to JUSTIFY their sins as opposed to treating him as the MERCIFUL King that he is. "If your God never disagrees with you, you might just be worshipping an idealized version of yourself."
I love how you were talking about the elephant in the room while not acknowledging the cat on your desk lol. Seriously though, this is an excellent video, very well done and well said.
Thanks Mike and other contributors to the discussion. All humans have value due to our creation by God in His likeness and image. Genesis 1:27. All murderers must first believe that their value (and therefore rights) are of a higher level than those of their victim. The abortion culture assumes the existence and inevitability of large numbers of unplanned pregnancies. Why is this? It's not as if we do not know how human life begins. It is not that we believe babies come into our lives without free choice on the part of at least one of the parents. Conception is certainly not the choice of the innocent baby! The apparent inevitability of the need for abortion is based on the assumption that woman have to accept casual sexual unions outside marriage. Let pro choice and pro life contenders agree on this; the devaluing of our sons and daughters has been preceded by the devaluing of women. Before all babies are treasured by our nation, their mothers must be treasured. The measure of success will be the value that our men place on the wives and mothers of our nation (both actual and potential). Come on guys. Our part in this is important.
As a woman, of course I believe in a woman’s right to choose...which is why I support keeping rape illegal and making penalties for rape far, far more severe. Not sure what these other crazy ladies are talking about: unless they were all raped, they all made their choice when they had sex. Even in the case of rape, which horrifically sad, it doesn’t change the objective fact that an innocent human life is being brutally killed.
Exactly! When did we get to the point that we punish the child of the criminal? Rape should be a capital offense. But we shouldn't Kill a child because it's the outcome of rape
God is omnipresent, so by default, He is aware of women getting abortions. But I believe He would be saddened at seeing His precious creation being destroyed.
I believe that if a Christian woman sins and gets an abortion in her despair and hopelessness that Jesus would go with her. If she loved the Lord and made this mistake he would not leave her. He would not smile. He would not support the sin. He would through the power of the Holy Spirit beg and urge and plead with her not to make the choice.
Rebecca Miller Ummm, no. No. Have you not read your Bible? “Many will come to me saying ‘Lord, Lord...’ and I will say to them I never knew you, depart from me you doers of lawlessness.” Jesus wouldn’t “be with her in sin”. You know not the Lord. He would be with her after her repentance. He will walk with her in facing her sorrow, but no, he will not walk with her in sin.
@@rebeccamiller9558 I don't agree, but I do believe that there is forgiveness available for all those who put their faith in Jesus Christ and repent and ask for forgiveness, even if they did murder a helpless child. Psalms 51.
So you are saying that David was not a man of God until after his affair with Bathsheba? Because that's not what the Bible said the Bible doesn't say that David was not a man of God before he murdered bathsheba's husband and then became a man of God after his repentance from the murder.
"Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies." - Psalm 139:21-22
@@leonhumphrey4344 you mistake my argument. I think its murder either way. What I am stating is that it is not just her baby. If you were trying to make an argument from a secular perspective I think you would have to think of it like a partnership owning a, let's say real estate together. Would one party have the right to burn the building down without the others consent. Their is clearly damaged incurred by one partys actions, but it would be arson anyways. I think the lack of concern for the father who wants to keep the child adds to the immorality of abortion.
I agree J.B. unfortunately this isn't happening! On the other hand, there are some men who say they shouldn't have to support a child they never wanted and have even said they should be able to demand the woman get an abortion! So who knows how this will go? The days are evil!
I volunteer at a pro-life pregnancy center. I see women from ALL walks of life. Most of them in some form or stage of crisis. On one occasion a young girl came in with her pro-choice grandmother. The girl wanted to have the baby, grandmother was adamant and said no way. We suggested adoption and showed her the options in that regard. This was her response to our suggestion: “I would never do that to a child!” I have to tell you, every woman to whom we suggest adoption says the same thing. It blows my mind! I will never understand it!!
Sadly, it's almost always the response. When you go down that illogical rabbit hole sometimes the mother fears the baby will end up being raised by their own abusive family, and can't entertain that ANY family is good and will care for their child. The hardest session I ever had was with a mother who was making the daughter abort against her will. It was a call in and the mother was on the call. The vile things coming from the mother was stomach wrenching. I couldn't sleep for weeks after that one call. We never got to see the young girl who tried to call us for help. That was over 20 years ago but like it was yesterday 😢
It's almost like they are in denial about what abortion really is and they have disassociated in some way. They can think about what adoption is because they haven't checked out of reality on it. I have heard the abortion staff make darn sure the women don't look at the remains of their baby and help them pretend it's never happened. Too bad the unborn cannot cry.
Good video. Thanks for addressing this . From your Reformed fan Blessings P.S. concerning when we get a soul look at Psalm 51:5 Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me. 6 Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; It says sinful from conception. There is no sin if there is no soul . Looks like it’s from the time of conception.
1 Timothy 4:1-2 "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron." The above verses can be applied to those teaching and believing the Pro Choice dogma. Their consciences are seared so that they lose their ability to even apply critical thinking on this issue. Any point or argument you make to them will fall on deaf ears. They don't even have "ears to hear." That's why they will block you and shut down any discourse on the issue. There are some who are not fully indoctrinated who have some part of their conscience on this issue and pointing out your reasoning with them may reach through, but being dogmatic with them will most likely make them dig in their heels. I think it would be better to use gentle and respectful questions to get them to think as they answer the questions. (One question could be one Mike used in the video, "Would you tell a woman who had a miscarriage, 'Don't worry, it was just a fetus, a clump of cells? Why not? Prayer is needed to reach both groups.
I also want to add... One of my best friends daughter is about 5 years old now. The abortion limit is 24 weeks gestation. Her little girl was born at 23 weeks and 6 days. Why was her child a "baby" and others it was okay to abort? She now advocates pro life, and shares her daughters story as evidence that even at 24 weeks, they are viable.
There is no argument. There is no debate. I’m tired of this even being controversial in society today. Murdering a baby is wrong. Period. I can only imagine how angry God is at our culture today. I’m sick thinking about it and I’m a fallen human...imagine God in his perfection.
@linnea falk except the vagina isn't a magical portal that makes a fetus a baby just by passing through it. The child in the womb is a baby weather you like it or not.
That's so true! God values human life, hence the commandment: "Thou shalt not murder." I've also noticed that what you've said about the pro-choice advocates trying to silence opposition rather than discuss issues is true as well. I've seen videos from Apologia studios, where the pastor of Apologia Church, Jeff Durbin, will try to talk to pro-choice advocates. Sometimes he has a good conversation, but often he's met with insults, profanity, and on one occasion, people trying to drown him out with music.
Hello, Mike! I am a Christ follower and pro life. I am struggling with spending our money at businesses that support pro choice funding. How do we "navigate " and reconcile these convictions?
An egg is not a bird but if I steal the eggs of an endangered bird I can be thrown in prison. This "it's not a baby yet, it's just a clump of cells," is such a crock. We value birds more than babies.
Great point and well said. I’ve never heard this example before, but it’s is perfectly relatable.
Perfect example.
And God is in the process of forming someone. The same way an artist takes a lump of clay and is sculpting it. It may not be the masterpiece yet, but I AM still in the process of forming it.
Eggs may well contain birds. That argument is absurd because the egg is nonliving matter that the bird uses to help them survive.
The analogue would be saying “is your hair a person?! No?! well since you’re under some hair you can’t be a person!”
"It's a clump of cells"
Tell me you don't know basic biology without telling me you don't know basic biology.
Long before I accepted Christ and became a christian I got pregnant, I was unmarried and the father was not someone I would want to raise my child (not a good guy if you get what I'm saying) and he didn't want to anyways, my boss at the time tried to pressure me into having an abortion, I thought about it but never did, I couldn't bring myself to even though the thought of having and taking care of a child on my own at 23 was scary, 8 years later I have the most AMAZING, loving, kind, smart son who is on fire for the Lord, and I'm married to a man who loves him just like his own. I believe the Lord, knowing I would come to him, was already there with me, helping me to be strong and make the right choice. The thought that it would have been so easy to go through with an abortion and this amazing child I have could have never had the chance to even LIVE haunts me, because I know how many DON'T get the chance and it breaks my heart!
Mary DeTray wow that is such a beautiful testimony!
Mary wow! I had the same story except 33 years ago! That boy is now 33! I remember I even wished I could abort him but couldn't because I knew it was wrong. I was terrified! I was alone and not following Christ as I should, but still prayed. I've been married to the father now for 33 years. Initially he didn't want to get married but he changed because I believe God worked on him. Btw.....this was my first child and I was in the Navy serving in Scotland. 1980s no Government support for single motherhood!
@@KM-zn3lx hello sister! We are not alone, there are SO many young single mothers who choose to do the right thing, and keeping it and raising it yourself aren't even the only options, this is why I have ZERO understanding for those who choose abortion, if you don't think you CAN take care of it is not difficult to give your baby up for adoption, there are SO many loving people out there who would do anything to take care of raise your baby as their own. There really is no reason for abortion unless the mother's life is truly in danger and it's too early for the baby to survive outside the womb, that is the ONLY reason I can see for abortion, if the pregnancy will end in death of BOTH the baby and mother.
Wonderful story. Thank you for sharing. I'm glad you're living your happy ending.
Thank you for sharing... God is so good...
There should be an image with Jesus and a single mother with a newborn who has nothing and decided to keep her baby. “With you always”
Me!
Honestly, you'd think the mother that decides to keep her kid and raise them probably needs Jesus to be with her more than the Woman who defies life itself for her own selfish desires. Actually, I take that back, the woman who so freely kills NEEDS Jesus more.... Actually forget all of that, we ALL need Jesus!
That made me tear up. I wish I could draw, so I could.
Thanks for talking about my mum and me. God bless
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When you made the point that when a friend has a miscarriage you wouldn't say to them "Don't worry it's just a clump of cells" it gave me the chills. It is so true. Our society has really dehumanized unborn babies.
She blocked me on Instagram too for commenting on it. She doesn't want to hear the truth or even give it the slightest chance. I'll pray that God opens her closed heart to the Gospel message
She probably just wants to make herself feel better about her Choice which is sad.
She is even scared of a harmless ant lol
Pro Choice= The Love of Sex without consequences + The Love of Money (or one’s standard of living).
This is the real reason why America loves it.
AGREED....A TOTALLY MATERIALISTIC AND SELFISH VIEWPOINT in our society.
And that's why people need to get married and start families, because a child is not a negative consequence, but a blessing. We should WELCOME God's blessings! The world desperately needs Christ.
They'd use rape as an excuse to have an abortion. So what would we say?
@ The baby is innocent. The baby shouldn´t die for the crimes of his/her father.
@@monamuller8969 i agree... I just wonder why adoption isnt considered a better option? Or other logically actions that dont punish the infant
The valentine heart "I ❤ me" explains the entire pro-choice perspective.
Dang! You beat me to it! Lol!
If you have to kill it it’s alive.
Sure but that's not "their" contention
Mic drop🤭😶
@@lizicadumitru9683 Yes, it is.
@@Bulhakas No, it's not. It's not their contention because they don't even agree that it's a life.
@@Xeno_Solarus Don't be simple.
The artwork is SICK. Words can't describe. And GREAT POINT, NO BABY IN THE WOMB DEPICTED. They don't view the baby as anything significant !
No "baby bump" depicted either...
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen exposing this issue. Before I became a Christian, I contemplated abortion, due to being 19 at the time. I had it scheduled, and a few days before the procedure I became extremely depressed and felt that it was wrong. Now, I have an amazing 8 year old who believes in christ too! ❤❤❤
@@brittanyjones8339 that's amazing God bless you
These images are also missing the father.
First our hearts break for the baby, always.
Let's not forget those women who've had abortions and have repented and struggle with it daily. I received a heart wrenching message (under an abortion video I made) from a woman who is a repentant Follower of Christ and seeking comfort in fellowship as she stated: "I can't let it go."
Those are the often forgotten survivors in the abortion debate. Let's remember these women and always know that "none are righteous, no, not (even) one." We're all in the same boat together.
God bless all!
-Brad
Honestly, that's what I thought maybe the artist wanted to convey - not that Christ condoned the abortion but that he would be with the woman through the hard times afterwards as she dealt with guilt etc... but knowing she wouldn't engage with Mike and others about it decreases the chances for that "best case scenario"
@@gabe_in_taiwan You may have been initially too optimistic about the artist, since the images show the woman undergoing the abortion -- not reflecting on a past abortion.
Yes! So many women have had abortions, compassion for them needs to be at the forefront of the pro life movement. A lot of them were pressured into it, lied to and so on. How many of us have only made good choices especially under duress.
@@sharroon7574 It's always been my dream to be a mother. I asked God to help me not be so angry at women who have had abortions. I actually had a dream about a woman who was in an abusive relationship, got an abortion and thought she was getting on with her life peacefully. (She was knocked out for the procedure and had no idea what happened. I was outside the building, hearing her thoughts.) She was at peace, or so she thought. There was a dark cloud looming over her conscience and she was sad but "ok for now". Then she was on the couch and I was sitting next to her (as if we're on two different wavelengths, or spiritual planes. She was unaware of my presence) watching a kind of documentary. There was a pastor or a rabbi talking about an abortion. The woman, who was very beautiful and innocent, was sobbing, just saying "I'm sorry." to her baby after every detail the man explained. I felt all of this woman's emotions. Ever since then, whenever I get angry at the women who go through this awful procedure, I remember the woman in my dream. Maybe they, like her just didn't know what they did. They too are a victim in this in a different way.
@@VictorianMetalGirl that may be the case for some, but the vast majority know what they're doing, it's murder. Even if they didn't fully know, they still know what happened and there must be repentance and justice for the action.
I know this wouldnt go well with some. But if someone could post a real photo of a dismembered aborted baby on her page with the words "is Jesus for this?" That might get the point across.
Mike, you do such a good job in your videos. You ground everything with Scripture, you focus on the truth in all situations, you are humble, polite, and consider others' point of view.
I wish we could have you come and speak at our church on a variety of issues, especially the importance of seeking the truth.
Good job. God bless
Another great live stream Mike. Thank you again for all you do. God bless!
The muted portion gave me time to dry my tears.
Thank you Mike. I've become on the fence about the issue. You put real issue back up front for me.
What’s interesting is would this artist do this with Mohammed? Or Buddha? I don’t think so. There is tolerance for all of those beliefs, just not Jesus. And if it is out there, as with this, it is with complete disrespect and twisting Jesus into people’s own imaginations that support their politics. Jesus does show forgiveness and compassion to women who have had abortions, but no, it is against His character to support killing His creation, a soul.
@gg Because christianity really is the only one who speaks up against this
Tre McCho no, they only do this with Jesus. In fact, when religion is attacked, mocked, or twisted, Christianity almost invariably the target.
I have a grandbaby that was born at 22.5 weeks and is now 3 yrs old. Seeing the 24 week baby is so hard. That baby could have lived!!!!
“Let’s not forget the babies.” ❤️
Seeing the tiny severed hands broke my heart.
Mine too
"Former embryo onboard" is great.
I was thinking we could call ourselves, "Zygotes for Life"
I loved this. The story about your professor, and the whole issue of language and rhetoric was so needed.
The biggest irony is protestor holding up a sign saying 'your body my choice' which is what the lady in the artwork is acting out towards her baby
What I love is how TH-cam's "misinformation" tag on this video tries and define abortion and literally says "To end a pregnancy." So glad TH-cam swooped in and help prove your point.
The “art” with the Valentines is so brazenly evil yet the world accepts it..........
Exactly. Thanks to the catholic church as long as there is a St. in front of the name its good!!!!
Karen "Be in the world but not of the world"
Right like really disgusting!
@@milica7522 Lmao I first thought you were making fun of her calling her a Karen
The father of the baby is also missing from the drawings.
Those 10 dislikes and perhaps more, just wow, after all that you proved and showed. That's that hardness of hearts right there.
They probably didn't even watch it.😔
The word "clump" fails to admit to the amazing complexity and information in any living thing, even a bacterial biofilm. It's like saying. 747 is a pile of plastic and metal.
"hands that shed innocent blood..."
I've never been proAbortion at any stage in my life. It's wicked. And I never cry. I can count maybe a handful of times I've been brought to tears.
That short clip crippled me. I am thankful we have a loving and forgiving God who can make things right, but we must stop abortion. So horrible.
I wonder if the pro abortionists who use the term fetus (to play down the personhood of the unborn baby) realise that a fetus is latin for offspring (i.e. a human child)...the amount of times I have heard this term thrown around by pro abortionists makes me think not.... Great video.
They know it's a human and that automatically means personhood.
That love heart with the "I ❤ me" says it all.
Mike, thank you so much for all you do. I’m so grateful that you’re willing to put together a video like this. I cried and I feel sick after watching it, but it is so needed. I know that if anyone is on the fence this will help them, I pray.
Thank you for talking about this issue. It is very important that people understand what is exactly going on during an abortion.
Out if all the Christians I follow, your thoughtful, biblical commentary is so helpful to me. I have a cousin, friend and sister-in-law who are very angry with me for my position on abortion. I believe I have presented my argument in a loving, factual way. It doesn't seem to matter, they become so emotional that they refuse to speak to me about this topic. 💔
Solid talk.
Interesting that the 'well, where will they live/go?' argument was used before in defense of slavery: did not know that!
I watched this live for a time last evening. Sorry, when you mentioned the images toward the end, I had to leave. Once, I was pro choice, and I am horribly ashamed of myself. Although I have never had an abortion-and I was an unwed mother with a wonderful son who I adore even as a pro choice person-I am horrified at the thought of actually murdering a child, much less a 9 month old infant (per New York's recent abortion change.) As a reborn Christian, it makes me incredibly sad, and that art work is startling, I would never image anyone creating such nonsense. Good for you, Mike, for standing up for those little ones who had no choice in the matter. May God richly bless your ministry and keep you safe in his hands.
So sick.. TH-cam has added a Context for this video about abortion... "a procedure to remove the pregnancy from the uterus".... 🙄
Dude you had so much conviction in your facial expressions after that video, that I was completely sold on what you had to say even though there was no audio! Well done!
Some people can't handle people who challenge their world view.
BLOW THE PLANET UP
Pastor Mike, I’m a Catholic, so I disagree with you on many theological and historical items.
But I know that you’re a man after God’s heart. I can tell from your videos that you love Jesus, and I’m so glad I can stand with you on this important topic.
Know when Jesus IS with you always?! When you're a "blob of cells" in a womb!!!
Tonight's live stream was really important to me. This topic is so controversial and so ive always stayed away from it and kept my opinion to myself
Dakota....I haven't. Everytime this topic has come up I say my opinion. Because if I don't people think I'm progressive for some reason. Also spoke out against abortion during my college days from the baby's perspective. It took all my guts to do so because it was brutally graphic!
God bless you
I don’t do twitter. Hopefully someone shared this video with her. Most signs I see at clinics also include; “We can help” or “love them both”.
I was born at 24 weeks gestation in 1990. My mom was told to prepare for the worst because there was a less than 5% chance of survival with any & all cognitive & physical “dysfunctions” known. I lived in the NICU for the first 5 months of my life, nearly dying every single day, only to go home a week or so after my due date with heart monitors and still ventilated. I am here because my God wants me here, because He gave me life.
I have had people tell me to my face before they know my birth story that abortion should be legalized until at *least* 24 weeks due to brain development, etc. & they never have an answer when I ask them if they believe, then, that I should be dead because I am here when “scientifically” I shouldn’t be. They never have a real answer as to whether my mom & the NICU team should have just left me and my twin sister to die because are still alive & neuro-typical.
Bless you sister. Glad to have you in the world. You can't really expect to get a good answer to your question from ardent pro-choice advocates. Many of them are all about diminishing the value of life in the womb. To honestly answer your question they have to assess the value of life at different stages of gestation. Many of them simply don't want to go there.
Mark Austin exactly! Usually the retort is “well they should still get to choose” 🙄
This is a very sad topic and one which renders me speechless as both the topic and the 'art' make me angry, sad and despair. Thank you for discussing it as I could see it was affecting you a lot. God bless you for this ministry.
Love how Mike addresses that pro choicers try to make it a pro lifers responsibility to provide for the baby. So many things to be said about that issue, but Mike is the first person I've heard even mention this as a ridiculous expectation.
Pro-death advocates always tell me I can't have a voice in this issue because I'm not a woman. Funny, back in high school we had a debate on this issue in one of my classes. Every single girl in the debate sided with life.
You absolutely do have a voice in it because you are a human, and a present or possibly future father. I'm a woman and I hate when women say that men can't have a voice in it, like men can't care about babies.
Excellent teaching. I respectfully suggest that we always refer to these people as "pro-abortion", never "pro-choice". Pro-abortion advocates must be pleased that we are adopting their language that places a "positive" spin on the murder of babies. The thought of "choice" and "freedom" are very positive concepts in the minds of Americans therefore it's a very effective strategy.
Thank you for the answer on the importance of prolife in politics. I completely agree with you. I´m from Sweden, and not one of our main political parties opposes abortion, not even the "christian democrats". None of the larger churches here opposes abortion openly. It´s horrible.
Thank you for standing strong on this issue, it makes me feel less alone.
How’s it going now the same or worse or better? Have a good day Jesus loves you!
@@thegiantbeagle
In Sweden? Worse, not one party officially opposes abortion, and some have suggested making the "right to abortion" a foundational law, like a constitutional right.
There are a few voices opposing abortion, but even most denominations do not speak on the topic. It´s not that they agree with it, it´s that they will not even talk about it, for fear of pushing people away.
There are more people in the swedish christian sphere that pushes for us working together as a church against climate change than to save babies from death.
Disturbing story from South Bend, Indiana (winter, 2019) - After the death of a doctor who performed legal abortions throughout NW Indiana and NE Illinois, 2,500 medically preserved remains of aborted fetuses were discovered at the garage at his home and elsewhere among his belongings. It was interesting to hear the uproar of protest and criticism from abortion supporters who somehow found this admittedly horrible collection to be immoral. It was as if the preserved remains deserved more respect and honor than the living babies who were killed. Moreover, it was considered an affront to the mothers who had sought to eliminate the evidence of their actions. It’s as if they were suggesting that it is better to destroy and discard the unwanted ‘tissue’ than to preserve it. By what moral measure does this make any sense at all?
The abortion supporters seemed to be saying that mothers had a right to deprive an unborn child of the gift of life, yet society should excoriate the reputation of the man who failed to properly dispose of the lifeless remains. Very troubling scenario from many perspectives.
Funny, why should they care about these babies, they're just "lumps of cells" right?? Who cares if a doctor kept "lumps of cells" in jars? lol, they don't believe that for one second. I've even heard some anti-lifers say "Okay, it is a life, but it's the mother's right to terminate it!"
There's only two types of people who support abortions... The ignorant, and the psychopaths.
Can you show me where I can find the quote about 'historic atrocities' by Douglas Groothius, please? Thank you
Always appreciate your videos, brother! Grateful for your ministry!
I am so glad prochoice people get responsible after conception in worrying about their life and health, maybe they should try it before conception as well.
They call good evil and evil good.
People aren't artists anymore. The people making these comics are people who know how to make basic doodles and push propaganda. Unlike the artists of the past who would be proud in speaking about what their actual art meant.
The best thing about Mike is what he chooses not to say. He could easily have gone down the road of attacking the artist’s lack of talent and the low quality but that would just make her angry. I wish I was that tactful.
@@ronglennproductions5416 Sure, and that never works. But that's not what I was saying. Even a low quality drawing can be true art with a message. The difference is that these aren't pieces of art meant to convey a deeper message when you look into it. They're simple doodles meant to push propaganda.
From Finland: You are so right, it is refreshing to listen someone as genuine as you. Thank You.
Thank you so much for this video Pastor Mike. The clip that you show was very eye opening and even though it was very hard to watch I think that it was good to show what abortion actually does. Also love your videos. Been watching for a long time and you are always thoughtful and careful to explain the topics you talk about. Thank you so much. God bless you brother!
It’s pathetic how people are being lead in the wide path of destruction by other people who think they know Jesus ...But the word of God is being fulfilled right before everyone’s eyes
Bea Rejino calling good things evil and evil things good
@Agent J Matthew 24:12
Praying for the Holy Spirit to reveal Himself to pro-choice people to show them the error of their ways. It’s so heartbreaking to see people treat the unborn as though they’re worthless.
I had my first baby at 16 (after my family tried to force me to have an abortion). Once a week I drive past a packed abortion clinic to serve at our local pregnancy center educating, counseling, doing ultrasounds, pregnancy tests, and TRULY supporting women. 99% are so deceived. They literally have no idea the reality of abortion and are shocked when we gently inform them (using unbiased procedure information from a government website). Such evil. Breaks my heart and makes me thank God he saved me from this evil and destruction of not just my baby but I’m sure it would have destroyed me as well.
"a clump of cells" shocks me because I remember when the uterus was a "black box" that we couldn't see the inside of, and even then, everybody who knew where babies come from knew that life begins at conception. When I was a kid, I saw the "pickled babies" at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago - gross but also fascinating. They were aborted fetuses (naturally aborted, because something went wrong with the baby or the mother's body). The really cool thing was to see how complete the baby was within days and weeks of conception. The idea that life does not begin at conception is a new one, created to defend the industry of abortion and to promote promiscuity without consequences. The idea that we don't know when life begins, or that individuals can decide at what age a baby magically starts to be a human being or a person, is a ridiculous retrograde on science.
There's someone else missing in this particular picture, which seems to be missing from all pictures concerning woman's right to abort a child, is the man, the father of the child, does not the man have the right also in the choice of the child that she is carrying, how in this can she then have 100% ownership when a child is created by both man and woman.
That video was absolutely appalling!!!!! They have to see it . So sad my goodness I cried
Barb....me too! Those babies are in Jesus's arms!
Up front I am pro life 100%. I've worked on crisis pregnancy hotlines and it's riddled with illogical broken thought processes of belief in the person who is considering abortion.
As a Christian I often hear what was said here... a belief that aborted babies are in heaven with Jesus. I cling to this belief as well.
But that belief can sure make it difficult when trying to convince women who have experienced abuse to consider having their babies.
So often you hear girls and women in a crisis pregnancy situation say at least their baby would be with Jesus if she aborted instead of ... fill in the blank with their own suffering experience of life.
It is difficult to convince these women God will provide for them and their baby if they just trust in Him. They look at you like what world do you live in lady cause it's not my world. Sigh 😞
When pressed to reconsider and that you can help them change their life and make a better life for their child they will often say something like "I messed up but I don't want my baby to pay for my stupid mistake of getting pregnant and have to live in this world".
It's heartbreaking 💔 It's just the way it is.
Sometimes you simply pray over them that Jesus will intervene and open their eyes to believing and knowing that good can come from choosing to have this child.
You pray that this choice for life will be the turning point in their life and ask God to send people into their life to love and provide for her and her baby.
It's amazing how that one belief that the aborted babies go straight to heaven can be the lifeline of justification that they want good for their baby and they are saving it from a horrible world.
Mental and emotional gymnastics of a desperate person.
"Drivers who always leave their brights on" don't get me started on them... that was great Mike 😁😁
Amazing how even in the midst of such a heartbreaking topic, Mike's joy in the Lord can't help but bust through. Love his heart.
"My car, My choice!" Would you still be against leaving your brights on if your regular headlights were non-functional?
33:34
Part of the problem here is varying moral systems - sympathy-based morality and justice-based morality (see also Kohlberg vs Gilligan).
The problem with a sympathy-based morality is that it all depends on where the sympathy is focused. Under such a system it makes sense that arguments would largely consist of sympathy pleas for one party and calloused, detached (or hostile) framing of any competing interest.
The thing you said about silencing the opposition is so true. I posted something showing my support for the Supreme court decision of overturning Roe v Wade, and I got back lash over it of people messaging me and leaving me comments. The thing is, I'm totally happy to respond to comments and have an open discussion. I don't censor and don't delete people's comments even if I don't agree, instead I simply tell them why I disagree. But the thing I was confused about was people would leave their comment and then immediately block me. It was like they didn't even want to have a discussion. They wanted to silence all opposing voices. I was confused at first why they would block me, now it's very clear to me why.
"Evacuating the uterus" dehumanizes the woman too.
The transgender movement does the same. They’ve reduced women to a “front hole”.
Mike, God is with you.
Matthew 18:10, 14 KJV
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
Love you brother.
I kept wondering, “what about the baby?” I think that Jesus is also with the baby.
Mike, you're just so respectfully and caringly rational. Thank God for you.
Far too many people use Jesus as a doormat to JUSTIFY their sins as opposed to treating him as the MERCIFUL King that he is.
"If your God never disagrees with you, you might just be worshipping an idealized version of yourself."
I love how you were talking about the elephant in the room while not acknowledging the cat on your desk lol. Seriously though, this is an excellent video, very well done and well said.
Thanks Mike and other contributors to the discussion. All humans have value due to our creation by God in His likeness and image. Genesis 1:27. All murderers must first believe that their value (and therefore rights) are of a higher level than those of their victim. The abortion culture assumes the existence and inevitability of large numbers of unplanned pregnancies. Why is this? It's not as if we do not know how human life begins. It is not that we believe babies come into our lives without free choice on the part of at least one of the parents. Conception is certainly not the choice of the innocent baby! The apparent inevitability of the need for abortion is based on the assumption that woman have to accept casual sexual unions outside marriage. Let pro choice and pro life contenders agree on this; the devaluing of our sons and daughters has been preceded by the devaluing of women. Before all babies are treasured by our nation, their mothers must be treasured. The measure of success will be the value that our men place on the wives and mothers of our nation (both actual and potential). Come on guys. Our part in this is important.
As a woman, of course I believe in a woman’s right to choose...which is why I support keeping rape illegal and making penalties for rape far, far more severe. Not sure what these other crazy ladies are talking about: unless they were all raped, they all made their choice when they had sex. Even in the case of rape, which horrifically sad, it doesn’t change the objective fact that an innocent human life is being brutally killed.
Exactly! When did we get to the point that we punish the child of the criminal? Rape should be a capital offense. But we shouldn't Kill a child because it's the outcome of rape
God is omnipresent, so by default, He is aware of women getting abortions. But I believe He would be saddened at seeing His precious creation being destroyed.
I believe that if a Christian woman sins and gets an abortion in her despair and hopelessness that Jesus would go with her. If she loved the Lord and made this mistake he would not leave her.
He would not smile. He would not support the sin. He would through the power of the Holy Spirit beg and urge and plead with her not to make the choice.
Rebecca Miller Ummm, no. No. Have you not read your Bible? “Many will come to me saying ‘Lord, Lord...’ and I will say to them I never knew you, depart from me you doers of lawlessness.”
Jesus wouldn’t “be with her in sin”. You know not the Lord. He would be with her after her repentance. He will walk with her in facing her sorrow, but no, he will not walk with her in sin.
@@rebeccamiller9558 I don't agree, but I do believe that there is forgiveness available for all those who put their faith in Jesus Christ and repent and ask for forgiveness, even if they did murder a helpless child. Psalms 51.
So you are saying that every woman who has an abortion is not a Christian because a Christian is not capable of murder?
So you are saying that David was not a man of God until after his affair with Bathsheba? Because that's not what the Bible said the Bible doesn't say that David was not a man of God before he murdered bathsheba's husband and then became a man of God after his repentance from the murder.
"Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies." - Psalm 139:21-22
Thank you so much for standing up for the truth and for life! And doing it with such a humility and love!
From a logical not moral position, the father of the child has no say. Without his consent it should be considered murder. It's not just her baby.
So if a child was born, and both mother and father agreed to kill it, then it's not murder? This is not a logical standpoint at all
@@leonhumphrey4344 you mistake my argument. I think its murder either way. What I am stating is that it is not just her baby. If you were trying to make an argument from a secular perspective I think you would have to think of it like a partnership owning a, let's say real estate together. Would one party have the right to burn the building down without the others consent. Their is clearly damaged incurred by one partys actions, but it would be arson anyways. I think the lack of concern for the father who wants to keep the child adds to the immorality of abortion.
I agree J.B. unfortunately this isn't happening! On the other hand, there are some men who say they shouldn't have to support a child they never wanted and have even said they should be able to demand the woman get an abortion! So who knows how this will go? The days are evil!
It is not his or her child. It has its own value.
@@afrarunduml1170 you dummy
This is a classic example of using the Lord's name in vain. Very disturbing images these people produce.
Demonic...devil uses Scripture, just twists it.
@@judywright6889 with idolatry
Your message to her was actually savage Mike. Justified, but definitely not surprised you got blocked.
Because they like to believe the lie. So they dont have to deal with consequence of there actions.
* their
Thanks
Thank you, Mike, for your courage in showing that video.
In complete agreement with you Pastor Mike. 🙏🏼✝️🙏🏼
It’s a great video, Mike! Thank you for making this. I’m glad you’re standing up to defend life! 💕💕
AMEN Mike! AMEN to all you have said!!
Thanks Mike for talking about this.Maybe is already posted, I'd like to hear you go through scriptures in relation to abortions.
I volunteer at a pro-life pregnancy center. I see women from ALL walks of life. Most of them in some form or stage of crisis. On one occasion a young girl came in with her pro-choice grandmother. The girl wanted to have the baby, grandmother was adamant and said no way. We suggested adoption and showed her the options in that regard. This was her response to our suggestion: “I would never do that to a child!” I have to tell you, every woman to whom we suggest adoption says the same thing. It blows my mind! I will never understand it!!
I’ve had the same experience. “I won’t adopt my child out but I will kill her”
Wow
Thank you Patricia for what you are doing! You are a hero!
Sadly, it's almost always the response.
When you go down that illogical rabbit hole sometimes the mother fears the baby will end up being raised by their own abusive family, and can't entertain that ANY family is good and will care for their child.
The hardest session I ever had was with a mother who was making the daughter abort against her will. It was a call in and the mother was on the call. The vile things coming from the mother was stomach wrenching. I couldn't sleep for weeks after that one call. We never got to see the young girl who tried to call us for help. That was over 20 years ago but like it was yesterday 😢
I volunteer at one too and have heard this.
It's almost like they are in denial about what abortion really is and they have disassociated in some way. They can think about what adoption is because they haven't checked out of reality on it. I have heard the abortion staff make darn sure the women don't look at the remains of their baby and help them pretend it's never happened. Too bad the unborn cannot cry.
Good video. Thanks for addressing this .
From your Reformed fan
Blessings
P.S. concerning when we get a soul look at Psalm 51:5 Surely I was sinful at birth,
sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
6 Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb;
It says sinful from conception. There is no sin if there is no soul . Looks like it’s from the time of conception.
Another well thought and biblically sound video, and as always, delivered with love. God bless and thank you.
Its pro baby murder not choice, what choice does the baby have?
Absolutely fantastic analysis! Thank you for providing a coherent point of view. I really enjoy your content.
Also, aside from where’s the baby, where’s the father?
Very well done! Thank you, Pastor.
1 Timothy 4:1-2
"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron."
The above verses can be applied to those teaching and believing the Pro Choice dogma. Their consciences are seared so that they lose their ability to even apply critical thinking on this issue. Any point or argument you make to them will fall on deaf ears. They don't even have "ears to hear." That's why they will block you and shut down any discourse on the issue.
There are some who are not fully indoctrinated who have some part of their conscience on this issue and pointing out your reasoning with them may reach through, but being dogmatic with them will most likely make them dig in their heels. I think it would be better to use gentle and respectful questions to get them to think as they answer the questions. (One question could be one Mike used in the video, "Would you tell a woman who had a miscarriage, 'Don't worry, it was just a fetus, a clump of cells? Why not?
Prayer is needed to reach both groups.
I also want to add... One of my best friends daughter is about 5 years old now. The abortion limit is 24 weeks gestation. Her little girl was born at 23 weeks and 6 days.
Why was her child a "baby" and others it was okay to abort?
She now advocates pro life, and shares her daughters story as evidence that even at 24 weeks, they are viable.
Please send her to Cleveland, the Browns need anyone who can block. Sorry...I love your program.
There is no argument. There is no debate. I’m tired of this even being controversial in society today. Murdering a baby is wrong. Period. I can only imagine how angry God is at our culture today. I’m sick thinking about it and I’m a fallen human...imagine God in his perfection.
Whenever anyone throws the fetus argument st me I remind them that fetus is Latin for baby, little one, small child. Seems to piss a few of them off 🤷
@linnea falk except the vagina isn't a magical portal that makes a fetus a baby just by passing through it. The child in the womb is a baby weather you like it or not.
That's so true! God values human life, hence the commandment: "Thou shalt not murder."
I've also noticed that what you've said about the pro-choice advocates trying to silence opposition rather than discuss issues is true as well. I've seen videos from Apologia studios, where the pastor of Apologia Church, Jeff Durbin, will try to talk to pro-choice advocates. Sometimes he has a good conversation, but often he's met with insults, profanity, and on one occasion, people trying to drown him out with music.
Hello, Mike! I am a Christ follower and pro life. I am struggling with spending our money at businesses that support pro choice funding. How do we "navigate " and reconcile these convictions?