The $100 Game Changer........ By Pagani Design!
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This watch reframes the affordable GMT market, no question about it. Just over $100 for this set of specs is RIDICULOUS! Will we see something cheaper in the future? Do we even want to? Cheers, Jody
FEN is the airport code for Fernando de Noronha, off the coast of Brazil. There aren’t many locations with GMT-2, and FEN is one of the very few that don’t change clocks throughout the year
Thanks Fernando for exlaining FEN is the code for Fernando Airport of Fernando de Noronha
Obrigado for sharing that. Always nice to learn something new.
Fernando Fernandez has to clarify this 😂
@@lint2791 in Spanish “Fernandez” used to mean “son of Fernando” haha
@@alese7531 the only airport I know! 😂😂😂
I saw the red one in Ali and fell in love. The busy dial is part of the appeal, and at least given its unique design, no one can accuse me of wearing a rip-off. It feels solidly built and thr coin edging is precise and sharp. Apart from some unevenness at the end link on mine, I'm really pleased.
As someone who loves a budget watch, like yourself Jody. I never thought I'd be saying this... But I think it's time for Pagani Design to up their prices slightly and use the extra money to improve their lume and also sort out some of the QC issues. Even if they only increased it by something like $20 or $30. Given how well they manage to make their money spread thin, I think that could make the world of difference.
The current pricing is probably better because the slightly more expensive Chinese brands are not cheap enough to move massive numbers in third-world countries. For exampl3 San Martin is still out of the budget range for the average brazilian income.
@@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock. I get what you're saying, but I don't think an extra $20 or so would make that much of a difference for most people. Especially if it meant improving the lume and QC a bit.
100% HWR
I don't know, man. I think the likes of San Martin will end up shooting themselves in the foot by their pricing. They are now getting closer and closer to prices of proper brands with proper reputation and real warranty. Pagani could easily price themselves out of the market too. Their case fit and finish isn't particularly good. I don't know if many people would be willing to pay $130-$150 for a Chinese Rolex copy with better lume and better alignment than current Paganis.
They should stop putting "pagani design" on the dial. That will save them a couple cents on ink.
Between the World Cup and JOMW I won’t be getting much sleep.😂
England's recent performance gave me all sorts of anxiety. It's probably better for my health to leave it alone and tune permanently to JOMW 😂👍
Australia v Tunisia starts in two hours. Must win game!
@Just One More Watch we will win...GO Aussie GO 👍
Brace yourself, Brazil is coming!
@Hugo Lopes yeah right different group..worry that later...we just need to go past group stage. That's already amazing feat for Australia. We are looking good 1 0 against Tunisia 🇦🇺
I absolutely love the " Black Shell Red" of the world timer with black bracelet and the yellow map style. WOW. very beautiful indeed..
Mine arrived today. Got the blue version on an oyster bracelet. Loving it. Only (small) gripes is lack of contrast on the 24 hour markers, and not being able to set 1/2 time zones as I live in Darwin Australia (GMT +9.5). But otherwise, brilliant value, and actually like the quirky IATA codes.
Pagani are just killing it. Just amazing value!
Classy watch! I do believe FEN is Fernando de Noronha, a Brazilian Archipelago.
That's correct
Exactly
@@rafapiloto195 nice one matey
Can't be,not at 2 hours behind London
@@blackpig52 it literally is, just look it up instead of assuming
Thanks for this great review. I decided to get one for the collection and ended up (with your code) getting it for £82. Fantastic.
Jodie, have you considered doing a video on straps, buckles and bracelets? You mention upgrading and changing the look quite often, but it would be good to have more detail on where and what’s good!
Lovely pieces, both of them! The world timer bezel is actually pretty small to read for my eyes, but I love it!
Wow awesome to see a budget NH34 so great job Pagani and Jody for the discount code! 👍
You want a budget watch and better build look at invicta pro divers......
Sorry for what I have seen from pagani they are overpriced crap
I agree with most of your points on this Jordy. I purchased the cream coloured dial world timer (PD-1758) of this variant during the 11.11 sale and am generally happy with it.
The finishing is decent, my watch's bezel insert (It is aluminium) was aligned correctly as was the GMT hand (I found I could actually adjust the GMT hand to put into or out of alignment). The movement is keeping very good time and have yet to adjust since it arrived five days ago.
But you're too kind in describing the bracelet clasp - it is total junk. For the money, it's a solid buy, but it would be even better if they upped the price by $5 to $10 USD in order to source a decent, adjustable clasp.
Excellent overview! I considered getting a cheap GMT prior to my recent holiday, but decided not to since I ran out of time and hadn't made a decision. I felt like I was returning home empty handed and picked up a PRX Powermatic 40mm at the Duty Free in Cancun 😋🌴🌴
Got the World Timer pagani on the red/wine looking bezel, it is a nice watch and I do agree with your assessment Jody, but for the price, you can't beat it. I compared it with the Pagani Explorer II GMT and this new one, beats it out. The movement is much better and with more power reserve than the Chinese movement in the Explorer II. I had a little trouble with the jubilee bracelet, so I had an extra one and switched it.
As to your question about who else will come up with a NH34A movement homage for less, is just a matter of "time"...
Great vid!
Like to point out the seamless integration between the jubilee bracelet and the lugs; those two elements were designed with some effort and attention to detail.
Another great video! Congratulations on your latest educational milestone, as well, Doctor!
I just bought a Pepsi bezel version with the new NH34 on the bracelet and I am loving it. It's got the best finished dial I've seen yet on a Pagani (including my PD-1680 with the plum dial, which is fire), and it would stand up to comparison with several much pricier name brand timepieces. The only complaints I've got are that the bracelet is a bit of a rattler and the bezel has a tiny bit of backplay, but everything lines up more accurately than any new genuine Seiko I've seen and the QC and finishing are surprisingly good overall, so I'm hardly complaining. All that and, with the 11.11 sale price, I got it for about 40% off!
I'm most likely going to have to pull the trigger and order another in one of the new colourways with the new dials and world timer bezels before long, too. They're cracking!
Thanks for another excellent review. Keep up with the great videos!
One of these on my wrist as I type thanks to your 11 11 video. Very impressive watch for the money.
Great review, Jody. Made me realise I don’t have a GMT in my collection. Now I want one, but I think I might go for the Seiko as I only plan to have one
I love these pagani watches & this one with the little lumed world map in dial is very cool.
My only gripe is those polished centre links in the bracelet - which otherwise cheapen the appearance.
Great review as always! I purchased one of these for about $106 usd during 11.11 sale after I saw your video for top watches to get during 11.11. I've had it for almost a week and I really enjoy it. The AR coating is definitely a nice touch, compared to my pd1661 sub it's much easier to read the date with slightly less reflections. One problem I had was the bracelet, the spring bar in the micro adjust broke as I was attempting to adjust it, and the screw inside the extension link was stripped, so I can't replace the clasp with a spare glidelock I have, so my bracelet is unwearable now. Luckily I contacted the store and they should be sending me replacement parts. Either way, for the sale price it's decent watch, just wish they had better QC.
Grabbed a Batman jubilee today now that the current sale has started--the Holiday Deals Event. Not quite as good as 11.11 but I had some cash back from prior sale, so net net close enough. Your reviews definitely influence my buying decisions! I didn't know that they increased the case size. Even though it's only a silly milly, I never purchased the Pearl version because I thought it would be a little bit too small for my wrist. I am hoping this will do the trick. Thank you Jody!
Wow…YHZ (Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada) is on the bezel! The perfect budget GMT for Canadians.
Wearing the green leftie on my wrist right now. GMT hand is independent so you can make it align easily.
Most all my Pagani's have had some type of issues but for the price I paid I found it hard to complain. These two watches look very nice.
Super strange choices for the airport codes. I'd think JFK or LGA for New York City, MDW or ORD for Chicago, DEN for Denver, LAX for LA, and so on. Honestly, I'd love to see a custom bezel for these- I'd deck it out with favorite airports in each zone. DTW (Detroit Metro), MDW, PHX (Phoenix Sky Harbor), SFO (San Francisco) for example.
Awesome Pagani!
First time buying one of the brands off Aliexpress. Longtime seiko and citizen wearer. Got the worldtimer NH34 in today for the $120 after taxes shipped. Everything in working order and aligned well. Looks clean. Hard to beat for the price given the specs. A couple sharp edges but not pulling on my hairs. Screw in pins a nice touch too. Downside/reduced value most likely on the back end when trying to sell or trade, but need to remember it's cheaper than getting a normal Seiko 5 sports with hardlex and non gmt movement. A good watch to experiment with too for those unsure about a cyclopes. Is it a better long term investment to spend 2-3x more and buy a Tissot 80 auto off a jomashop, absolutely. But no buyers remorse here on this watch. Great find!
Love these watches.....I feel smug in my discovery of them......I have five of them,and think number 6 is coming now.
Thanks Jody,and late congratulations on the PhD too👌
I have this exact same watch and love it. The bracelet is a bit of a problem with the screws but I put a rubber strap on it
That’s a good price for that movement. An NH34 costs almost $100 just by itself from some of the Mod Supply websites.
I picked up the same world timer during the sale...not bad at all :) cheers Jody!
Jody Sir, that is so useful -----------> The countries on the rotary band........not seen i before (thanks)
seems.
best wishes.
Personally this isnt anything inspiring or crazy but is a good for the consumer market as a whole. I am excited tho about more original designs and profiles like the Explorer or Seagull like pilots rocking this movement! I have a few ordered for a few personal builds within the next year. Also as always great video and brilliant points made Dr.Jody!
I will wait for the explorer version of it. The only thing stop me buying them few years back is the terriable movenment(you can punch in the air and heard the watch spin like crazy on you hand, you can actually feel the stronge virbation as well). Now with the NH34, the exploer will be a prefect budget GMT watch
Excellent video Jody. I got my 4th Ali Express watch delivered last week and it was my first Pagani. Silly me got the Moonswatch Neptune, total trash. My first Pagani is the V4 Neptune moonwatch and I love it. Usually I wear a different watch every day. The Pd1701 has been on my wrist a record 3 days. Anyway the World Time GMT is nice. However I might hold off for a Seiko despite the hardlex, when the prices inevitably drop. This Pagani is a fantastic option if you only want to spend $100. It's great value.
I have been patiently waiting for a low cost NH34-based GMT watch for months so once I saw this video I jumped on the "GMT Master" Batman on a jubilee bracelet. With the Aliexpress Black Friday discounts and the $17 USD voucher (thanks Jody !) it came to $137 CAD which is a steal. This will be my second Pagani. Last year I picked up the PD-1701 (Speedmaster look-alike that I affectionately refer to as my "Spagani"). BTW has it occurred to anyone else that NCC-1701 is the designation number of the Star Trek Enterprise? Coincidence? Perhaps not ;-) .
Thanks again Jody for the great video and congratulations on earning your PhD. Well done !
- Cheers Michael
Thanks to your great reviews I have four Pagani watches in my collection, including a Batman GMT. They have all been totally reliable for two plus years so for the tiny price I paid I wouldn't care if one stopped working tomorrow. It would just make room for one more watch ;-)
Thanks Jody…looking forward to the Seiko/grand Seiko GMT Homages!
I picked up the World Timer version during the 11.11 sale as well, and all around it's a nice little watch. My few complaints are the cyclops and the GMT hand. Mine was off similar to the Batman you had there, and to my eye the cyclops is way to powerful of a magnification compared to what I'm used to. I don't know if it's down to the difference in distance between cyclops and dial face because of the extra hand on the stack or what, but from normal reading distance the numbers are almost illegibly large.
Thanks for continuing to review good looking, reliable, and affordable watches!
I saw another channel do a review on these watches and it would seem that the cyclops is actually sapphire on these which is why the mag is higher as the sapphire has a higher refractive index to regular mineral glass and they arent machining the sapphire cyclops to match that fact, and when they are machined to the mineral glass spec.....this extra magnification is the result. I cant remember who did that review but it was 7 or 8 months ago, at least....but is sounds plausible to me ....maybe somebody needs to tell them to change their spec on the machine on grinding these.....lol
The dial is recessed well back into the case, maybe to make room for the four hand stack.
Ordered the very same on the oyster bracelet with you discount code for usd 108!
Bought an earlier version of the Batman GMT, looks stunning but the Cyclops on mine is useless, also starting to have issues with the movement stopping for no reason, but hey for 117 bucks it's a great beater for work.
Love the look of the World Timer though, especially with the gold hands.
I miss Pagani reviews, thanks Jody!
I have the Batman GMT and the hand is always a bit off. The bezel has to be a few clicks off center to make it match. But, for what it is and what I paid, I cannot complain too much. It works.
i bought the world time gmt exactly the same as the one featured here. i'm very impressed. it seems pretty accurate without testing. my only niggle is that the gmt hand is about 15 mins fast. i'm ok with the pagani jubilee but i'm going to try a black silicone band.
Not into homage watches, but I had a Parnis with the inferior DG3804…
Seeing this Pagani with the NH34 made me ordering the Pepsi and give it a try.
The Pepsi GMT Master 2 is my grail watch that I never would buy…
10.000,-€ MSRP and a 3-7year waiting is something I couldn’t justify as a employed truckdriver…
A homage has to be cheap, so looking for a 500-1000,-€ watch is senseless, as you can get in this region so many original watches, but at 100-200,-€ with a Seiko NH34 it is a steal and worth to give it a try.
dang! That cyclops looks like Uncle Fester's glasses! lol!
Pagani (or dealers) have quickly jumped the price to $165 range
Hi Jody, good review it is a shame I got the older cheaper GMT from Pagani earlier this year. but may get the world timer one of these.
I was supposed to get my PD-1758 in blue bezel/yellow dial - jubilee bracelet, today, as a matter of fact but it would seem that Monday is the day it will arrive. This watch will serve to kill two birds with one stone, as it were, as it will be my first yellow face and my first GMT/world timer. I cant wait to get it on the wrist and wear it. I got it on the last 'sale' for $US91. The PD watches may not be a luxury brand, but they DO represent VERY high value for what you get, indeed.
I wonder if the bezel inserts are interchangeable? If so I would get some of those rolex style inserts, cheap way to change the look significantly.
was waiting for your review of this one. now i think i gotta buy it today or tomorrow 😂
Hey Dr Jody,
They do look like a great value. I personally have not been as excited about the new GMT movement. Its just not a complication that is significant to me. More of a curiosity than anything else.
But why not get it if it's not a huge extra cost.
I bought a NH34 Batman GMT in the 11/11 sales. Received one with the black section of the ceramic bezel containing awful scratch-like marks or stains which are visible to the naked eye. I had to contact the seller and they promised to send me a replacement bezel. This is the downside of Pagani Designs - their poor QC and if unlucky, you'll get one with major defects.
My number one complaint about Pagani Design isn't that they basically use a photocopier at the designing stage, it's that the all steel case backs they use are too thin and make the whole watch sound cheap. It is cheap but you don't want it to sound like it.
You are just parroting the review last year on this channel for the Paul Newman, which is sometimes the case with some of the quartz versions, but has not been my experience at all with any of the automatic solid caseback versions of Pagani.
@@Ericdagreat I'm not parroting anything, I bought a Pagani and that's my main complaint and I have others. The lack of AR coating on the crystal being one. The p155 poor lume another. Both of those can be excused by the price but the case back can't and that's why I mentioned it. How much more would it cost to make them thicker? A penny a case back perhaps?
@@Chris.Strange Got it. I have sold that problem in the past with adding a flat lead weight, and applying epoxy to the inside of the caseback
yeah...a bit of lead tape works wonders on some of these that need that 'little bit more' mass....@@Ericdagreat
nice gmt`s for the price.... never had a gmt... time to get one ... cheers
The GMT hand is separately adjusted. You could have aligned it.
Hey Jodie I’ve only seen Wellington on GMTs, which makes sense as the capital
I got a Pagani Design sub mariner based on a review here - it's given me problems (band and crown positioning) but it's a great looking watch
Fenais da Luz is a civil parish in the municipality of Ponta Delgada on the island of São Miguel in the Portuguese archipelago of the Azores. This is the Azores (off shore Portuguese) time zone
Thankye Jody!
From Denver North Carolina!
Tandorio GMT is the lowest priced nh34 on Ali. It was $100.84 shipping and tax included to Las Vegas.
Thanks Jody!
I'm interested in an NH 34 GMT from Ali, but I'll wait for Steel and/or Addies Dive to do it. In my admittedly small sample size of involved brands, SD and AD are just nicer pieces than what Pagani puts out.
10:05 Also looks like the dots between 18-20 & 20-22 are off centre
I whould love to buy an white explore 2 with this movement, only with logo and no pagani name. Let's hope they will make it. It's the perfect summer beater watch
Great review as usual. Very nice watch for the money but I think I would prefer silver hands instead of gold. Is there gold in the center section of the band? Little hard to tell?
It's a stunner! Really classy look, and the red bezel makes this Pagani look like a £1000 watch.
Thank you so much!
I'm currently have the world timer on my wrist, also on a jubilee. Very easy to wear and basically invisible after a few minutes. However, I'm surprised you didn't mention the sharp edges on the case, bezel, bracelet and clasp (the latter being sharp enough to graze). I'm going to have to buff mine out with a nail buffer to take the edge off. Not noticeable during wear (aside from that lethal clasp), but a real issue in-hand.
Other than that I agree with the review. The timepiece itself is great for the money - easily matches high street watches costing double or more. The bracelet is better than similarly-priced Seikos, despite the sharp bits; though it's the weakest part of the whole.
At the sale price you can easily buy a quality strap for it and have a watch that matches much more expensive pieces.
Do you have any idea if the world timer function works? I have one too and with the hours on the bezel with the cities, I don’t think it works.
Ok so HOW do you adjust the micro on these? I’ve got three Pagani with this type of micro adjust. I’ve looked at it under macro and there’s simply no way to get a spring bar tool in there.
Where do I put in your additional code? No window at checkout that I can see.Thanks.
Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE explain how the GMT works on the world timer? I have one and cannot figure out how the city function works. Do I set the GMT on my local time and then turn the bezel so my local time city lines up with the GMT hand? But that can’t work since the GMT is 24 hours and the numbers are not on the dial, they rotate with the bezel. Can anyone help?
Those look like the standard world time cities on a G-Shock. Fernando de Noronha, btw.
Hi Jodie, can you please review a 36 mm Tandorio? They are around 100$ and they fit smaller wrist. Thanks. Ciao
Unrelated to the video, but was watching some videos of the new God of War game and your voice sounds exactly like Mimir. So much so that I thought you might do some voice acting on the side😂
I wish Richard! I'm still trying to get through the first game.....
Que relógio lindo esse red 👏🏻👏🏻
Missed the usual SOTC right around American Thanksgiving!
I am a big PD fan, they do so much for so little. BTW FEN is for Fens, and it’s two decades behind London, not hours (I can say that, I live there). Not a fan of the Batman colour set and I think the Pagani Design text on the dial is unnecessary, but otherwise these are sound and straight into the cart…
Just got mine today, bargain at $95. I already have the blue one with the world map. The hands on that one are harder to see plus the numbers on the bezel being in black are virtually invisible. So, the black dial with red bezel works for me. Why Pagani didn't put white numbers on the blue bezel is beyond me, as the watch is a nice colour, the map should be more subtle too to make the hands easier to read.
Wishing PD would make a 44mm diameter watch that I absolutely must have. So far though, not a single PD in my collection.
Jodi please review a phylida I would love to hear your opinion on this ali brand
Something I'd like to see on future GMTs is two date windows--one of which shows the date on the other side of the International Date Line.
good idea ... the wrong date change for one timezone is annoying. but that's a *lot* of complication to add. it's an entire extra date wheel plus jump mechanism. if this ever happened, it would be on a luxury watch, and afaik it hasn't yet. your greatest chance of seeing this on a cheap watch is a quartz movement where dates are done with hands, and it's a simple matter of adding an extra servo motor ... basically you'd be reprogramming an existing chronograph movement
@@5naxalotl yeah, it sounds simple as a concept, but it most certainly wouldn't be.
What's the model number on the Batman homage? I want to buy one.
Gotta say it's strangely satisfying when you have a GMT watch and you actually travel and make use of the GMT hand. Obviously it's nearly pointless since my phone will set it's date correctly the moment it gets signal in the destination country but still
Really couldn't figure out that FEN place either.. By Timezone, must be somewhere on the west coast of Brazil ?
I think I will wait and get a more up level GMT.. A CW, hopefully, next year. Amazing what they can do here..
does the batman version also come with AR coating on the crystal?
Listen Pagani(ni)
We breathlessly await your masterful détente
Come on and spring it
If the boys is bopping ain't no need in stopping ...
Dig the Cherry analogy 😄🍒🚗👍!
Man they were rotten. So cheap but there isn't one left working after ten years!
@@JustOneMoreWatch Dood 😂 - and the Chery story continues! Their newer models just joined the top 30 complaint list, main complaint being "body rusty, unable to shift gears"...
I dig it, but the clasp is a deal breaker for me. Anyone have a link to a clasp that works with it?
How to read the third time zone or somewhere else time.
i really wish these had a quartz movement option.
Me too. I love my PD Daytona homage with Seiko quartz accurate movement!
Nice watches and excellent movements. The only problem is that Pagani never respects the guarantee associated with the watch and takes particular care to ignore any request in this regard from its unfortunate customers in the event of a problem (note the very poor quality control at the end of the assembly line). I have never seen so much bad faith from an Aliexpress seller. It's a shame because I would have probably bought one of these watches but as I had two bad experiences with this store and the brand I will refrain.
Lots of these budget brands are giving the big boys a run for there money, i like some of them.
Wow, they actually stuck a Canadian airport code on the watch. YHZ is Halifax, Nova Scotia! Call me impressed! I have to admit though, I'm not a fan of the colouration. That's not the watch's fault, I'm just partial to blue dials. 😁
Hello, is there a daydate 40 Hommage at pagani or at least a good one at Aliexpress? I bought the 36 mm from pagani and it's to tiny for my wrist
Was excitied to receive my Pagani GMT. Then tried to set the GMT hand . . . Sometimes it moves in response to turning the crown; most times it doesn't. I was expecting world class finish, but I was expecting a "reliable mechanical movement." I got neighter. I'm done with the Ali Adventure going forward.
It came to $94.86 for me but didn't pull the trigger. I just got one for November and one for January. That let December open, who knows.