Vikings Costume Review (and Rant)

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  • It's here! It's finally here! Join me in a review of the costumes of hit TV drama "Vikings". This is a "blind" review of some of the clothing in the show that has been sent in to me by subscribers, without actually having seen more of the show than a couple of episodes.
    Ok fine. It's a Vikings rant. Let's not pretend it's not a Vikings rant.
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  • @TheWelshViking
    @TheWelshViking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +448

    I know, I know, it's Rollo, not Borg. Listen, they all look the same to me after a while. And my criticism stands regardless.

    • @swinn1967
      @swinn1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I do enjoy your critique though.

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@swinn1967 Thanks! I noticed after a bit that I'd goofed. Honestly, after a while they just become "beardy man in leather 1, 2 and 3" to me! XD

    • @Necron-ez2cc
      @Necron-ez2cc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@TheWelshViking To be fair, "The History Channel" is better known for Ancient Aliens, The Search for Bigfoot, and other nonsense pablum... not actual history. I know, I know... to call it The History Channel is false advertising in my opinion.

    • @user-jy2sj4ed4i
      @user-jy2sj4ed4i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Necron-ez2cc used to be different

    • @Necron-ez2cc
      @Necron-ez2cc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@user-jy2sj4ed4i Yes... once upon a time, long ago... before it became about pawn shops, truck drivers, fishermen, UFO's, monsters, and supernatural drama.

  • @riverAmazonNZ
    @riverAmazonNZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    The idea that men can’t wear colours and be taken seriously really grinds my gears

    • @serptimis1552
      @serptimis1552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      When in reality , it'd be the guys turning up for battle in their thin leather chest piece with metal studs that'd be laughed out of it

    • @valkyrie1066
      @valkyrie1066 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Or that everyone wore black, specifically. Wasn't a color that was easy to get; and wasn't colorfast. Like....any other colors?

  • @LetsDanceRedding
    @LetsDanceRedding 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1009

    It has made my entire week to know that a real viking walked this earth rocking a pink faux-fur cloak. Why do they have to make up a bizarre fake viking aesthetic when the truth is a million times more interesting?

    • @jenniferbunge346
      @jenniferbunge346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      Probably because general populace would be all like they are men! No! I refuse!!! :| Because people nowadays don't really understand the concept of expensive fabric being colorful. But I think it would be great.Doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon though.

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  4 ปีที่แล้ว +333

      They wore such wonderfully outlandish stuff in these mad colours. But alas! Modern masculinity seems to still be lagging in the “wear black be muscular” tropes of the 20th century.

    • @LetsDanceRedding
      @LetsDanceRedding 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      @@TheWelshViking could you possibly do a video showing what costumes you would dress the characters in? Or just a video showcasing some of colorful outfits a viking might wear?

    • @agypsycircle
      @agypsycircle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I second the chaotic neutral!

    • @darklymoonlit
      @darklymoonlit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right? I feel blessed.

  • @MarySanche
    @MarySanche 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    That stripy black and white weaving looks incredible! Your friend is genius

  • @heatherelise327
    @heatherelise327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    'Bilberries, Joan?? BILBERRIES?!?'
    (My partner hasn't gotten sick of me intermittently screaming that yet, but give it time...)
    Well done- excellent edutainrant 😊

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣 I love it!
      Thanks very much :)

  • @OstblockLatina
    @OstblockLatina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Pink Vikings is something I certainly didn't know I needed in my life.

  • @melissaduncan9988
    @melissaduncan9988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Thank you, as a Norse re-enactor now when we do events for the public we spend 75% of our time with the public explaining that The Vikings is SO not historically accurate and why.

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Same. It’s just exhausting after a while!

    • @janehollander1934
      @janehollander1934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ohhh it must difficult to keep your responses "civil" after the 10th time...BUT at least you & your Norse comrades are educating your public. Keep up the good work👍🏻

  • @Tiger89Lilly
    @Tiger89Lilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    It literally looks like the costume department went to topshop in this seasons "Game of Thrones Viking menswear" Constance Mackenzie should have gone and stabbed the whole team with her pins

  • @FortuitousOwl
    @FortuitousOwl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    What I’ve learned from costube is that we don’t talk about The Tudors lol

  • @rowanseas4904
    @rowanseas4904 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I haven't seen the show either so I had no idea that it was *that* bad. A 5 minute internet search would have given the costume designer more accurate information than whatever "research" she did.

  • @Kuhmuhnistische_Partei
    @Kuhmuhnistische_Partei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    "That would effectively be crossdressing, which was something that a woman could divorce her husband for in the viking period"
    So... if we know that, there were people who did it, right? I would totally dress as a viking crossdresser. Sounds sympathetic.

    • @oldoneeye7516
      @oldoneeye7516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Your comment made my day.

    • @nellgwyn2723
      @nellgwyn2723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I was thinking the same, apparently it was a common enough occurrence for people to have a law about it and social protocols of how to deal with it, which is a rather fascinating thought. I never thought much about crossdressing Vikings before, but that together with the glorious pink faux-fur coat will be on my mind forever. I never found them as interesting before learning more about them being so much more than what pop culture considers them to be, but those two were the first times I was genuinely sad about never getting to know the reality of their lives, because that is fascinating and much more human and likeable than most historical details you ever get on people so far in the past.

    • @eazy8579
      @eazy8579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@nellgwyn2723 thing is, for a guy, that pink fuzzy cloak would have been super manly, so it might not be the best choice for cross dressing, unless you normally present feminine

    • @scouttyra
      @scouttyra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean, Odin himself did it *shrugs*

  • @hdhoven2983
    @hdhoven2983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BRAVO! Way back when I was at a Library Convention holding down the SCA table I had one person ask me "Is Vikings accurate?" I couldn't help it I had to be honest.
    "It's as accurate as the armor at Party City. If they were going for a film noir version of a Wagnerian Opera, if I take my glasses off and squint my eyes I might believe it."
    After showing him our collection of various pamphlets, handouts, and vacation photos from the Viking Centers and historical villages he said..." so the producers of the show were afraid of shiny and colorful?" I had to sit down I was laughing so hard.

  • @aenorist2431
    @aenorist2431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    18:25 The weird chain-thing between the Tortoise broaches is an actual (probably modern) maille pattern, called half-persian (3-1). Its made with rings of wobbly sizing, probably aluminium from the size of em. Obviously still terribad, but someone in the costume department makes maille (as in the modern hobby / jewelry artform) which I like.

  • @Moritach
    @Moritach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I've been to viking exhibitions in sweden there's always been notes on whence items came. Like this came from the roman empire, or was inspired by the roman empire. This came from the irish, this came from the sami, this came from germany, this was made here but were exported as they've also been found here, here and here... The trade part, the wealth they brought home both in actual precious stuff, but also in knowledge and new crafting techniques has always been an important part of the story. How'd she go here to learn and miss all that?

  • @little_punk_doll8975
    @little_punk_doll8975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Funny thing is I bought a dress on an auction from this tv show :p
    Luckily, it's made from wool, and dyed purple, so I guess she made one tolerable thing ? :p

  • @lynnemcdonald465
    @lynnemcdonald465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am aghast that this was shown on the History Channel. There is a place for historical fantasy, and that is not it. Well ranted, that man.

    • @janehollander1934
      @janehollander1934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't know that either. Here it's shown on Netflix...and They don't seem, or want, to know "better"...I'm looking at you 'The King' (2019)

  • @AragornElessar
    @AragornElessar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    oh I love rants on historical accuracy in tv shows.

  • @TracyLynnAP
    @TracyLynnAP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you so much for this.. I saw the prevues of this show and thought.. wow this looks like someone went to the costume shop and bought all the "viking" Halloween costumes.. I am glad to know I was not wrong lol

  • @beccibot
    @beccibot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I absolutely love this show, but the costumes (as much as I like to look at some of them) are my biggest bug bear. As someone who used to reenact the Viking period, I focused mostly on the clothing, learning to use natural dyes, doing research into the stitches they would use for construction and decorative purchases, and learning how to tablet weave. There are so many sources out there for Viking fashion; I just don’t know how she got it so wrong.

  • @yuukimare9847
    @yuukimare9847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    🤣 Omg... John Snow making an appearance. That make me laugh so much.

  • @upcyclemichael
    @upcyclemichael 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank the Gods. I have real problems keeping my rants about woefully inaccurate arms and armour to myself whilst watching films and 'historically' based TV shows. It has been a joy to watch you cringe at the same things that irk me so. Very pleased to have stumbled upon your channel. Keep up the good work.

  • @keelinhogan8869
    @keelinhogan8869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This may be a hot take here, but I love both Vikings and The Tudors. (I know they are both trash TV but I love to see any sort of history brought to life in any capacity.) I did a presentation about Joan Bergin's costume design and I agree that it is absolutely abysmal that it is presented as "historically accurate". I have done a lot of research myself about fashion history with a particular interest in both viking age and early Tudor dress and so personally I can easily see that the costuming is BAD in regards to accuracy. However, I do think she is a good designer, with some pretty glaring exceptions (like the crotch flap on Rollo) I think her designs look cool and they do in some capacity invoke the feelings of the era. I think the major shortcomings of these sorts of designs, is as you said, the fact that they are presented as reality. What is damaging in my opinion is not that the costumes in these series are absolutely fantastical, but that the majority of people viewing them are unaware of that fact. I appreciate so much that you take the time to present the reality in such a great format because it is so important for us to understand the actual truth of history in general and it is something that I feel unfortunately gets brushed under the rug. Particularly in America, history is not something that the system of education focuses on at all and it is so sad to see because it creates these damaging scenarios wherein people accept these entirely fantastical representations of history as fact.

  • @tomice
    @tomice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for another great video, I feel your pain I have similar pains whilst watching medical dramas!!
    I am however holding you responsible for 15 minutes of sweary knitting repair as your shout of bilberries joan made me drop several stitches!

  • @hockeygrrlmuse
    @hockeygrrlmuse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Might be my favorite historical costume rant. I love feeling vindicated about what's being roasted & this absolutely deserves it 👌🏻

  • @SH-wk6po
    @SH-wk6po 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    *"Woad mate! WOAD BLUE!!". "He looks like a black wicker dustbin".* Ah ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!! I was not expecting this kind of (well deserved and well aimed) savagery from this cutie Welshman. 😂😊🤣 I will say that the NYT published an article on her, and claims that she isn't a "slave to authenticity" and keeps costumes about 70% accurate to the period... whatever that means. 🙄 I look forward to many more videos of this nature!

    • @DawnOldham
      @DawnOldham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I actually recently watched a You Tube video that taught how to make Woad blue. It looks nothing like the denim the “Viking” woman was wearing!

    • @cindabearr
      @cindabearr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This comment cinched it for me. I'd not had the pleasure of seeing any previous videos from this channel. I've now subscribed and need to see more of this well-mannered savagery, for this show truly, truly deserves it!

    • @SH-wk6po
      @SH-wk6po 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cindabearr I'm so glad the comment was helpful!! 😊 This channel keeps getting better and better!

    • @cindabearr
      @cindabearr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SH-wk6po This was the first video of his I'd seen, and I knew I had to subscribe to see more of his charm! (Black wicker dust bin... 🤣🤣🤣) If he keeps getting better, I know I'm in for a fantastic time!!

  • @sjesson6979
    @sjesson6979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wasn't black a really hard color to come by? If so why is everyone in black? And maybe the topless thing was to emulate the Celts during the British-Romanic period, but that would be a few centuries too late and the wrong group either way.

    • @rachelboersma-plug9482
      @rachelboersma-plug9482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I can only assume the topless warriors are supposed to be berserkers.

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, I’m told they’re supposedly doing some berserker thing, but the black leather is total fantasy. In theory they *could* have dyed it blackish, but we have zero proof they did.

    • @kmaher1424
      @kmaher1424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheWelshViking When truly black clothing came in, many centuries later, one of tgevatteactions was that the dye process was long and expensive.
      So, earlier, the baseline was neutrals, with colors for those with money.

  • @williamstrickland9795
    @williamstrickland9795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like your videos. I appreciate that you voice that it is okay to do an outfit that is not fully accurate (that rarely can happen, cause of time and materials), but that is the standard by which you work. For me, right now I strive for authenticity as much as I can, in order to learn the advances in quality construction of garments, as well as fit and look. If you ever have a reason to come to the University of Michigan, let me know.

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will do, thanks! I haven’t many reasons to visit Michigan these days, but an excuse will be found!

  • @v1olante
    @v1olante 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dig the aesthetic and I really love the show but I'm happy you're educating everyone

  • @betweentheoldandthenew8200
    @betweentheoldandthenew8200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was entertaining to watch as always, I had actually no idea that it originally aired on the History Channel...
    But I would've loved to see a pink für coat! 🌱

  • @bmc3682
    @bmc3682 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Like... bondage gear has its place..." was definetely not a sentence I expected to hear in this video.

  • @horsenroundstudio
    @horsenroundstudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fellow weaver here, and OMG, that fabric Jane is weaving is AMAZING.

  • @amelinabellemont2722
    @amelinabellemont2722 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "future me zoom in, enhance"
    I found my people, love you man.

  • @PinkythePinkDemon
    @PinkythePinkDemon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Loved the video and the idea that there is nothing wrong with fantasy vikings, just say that's what you're doing. Also, I did not know about using fluffy wool to make brightly colored faux fur. Also, totally unrelated, but I love that green borderware (?) just in the background; may I inquires as to where you got it?

  • @charlie2.048
    @charlie2.048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just found your channel and now I'm binging all your videos and I think I'm in love.

  • @janehollander1934
    @janehollander1934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I soooo agree that the TV show "Vikings" is not worth watching: at the risk of developing high blood pressure. I quit watching 'Vikings' at the precise same moment you did👍🏻. I could take NO more 😵!! I found it so funny that at 17:07 when you start talking about the picture of Aethelred II ['the Unready'] you didn't recognize "that Guy Behind him" as being the British actor Jonathan Rhys Meyers [here "portraying" Bishop Heahmund] who was Henry VIII in 'The Tudors'. And who seems to be a glutton for punishment, being dressed up, yet again, in the costume atrocities created by Joan Bergin. Who can/should be held not only accountable for The Tudors' and 'Vikings' but also for 'A Little Chaos'. She should stick to "modern" 20th century [costume design] or do "fantasy" stuff like "Reign of Fire" and 2011 "Camelot". Because she just creates visual distress for many of us.✌🏻🤐

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I like you.
      I did notice it was John Rhys Meyers! But I totally forgot to mention my fellow Welsh actor in the video, so I offer a full apology!
      Yes, Ms Bergin has put him in shoddy and appallingly inaccurate costume (I nearly put “historical”, but it’s not a word to use when talking about her clothes) in two series now!
      She really should be held accountable for this stuff, and in my own very modest and inadequate way I hope to bring a little more critical light onto her work.

  • @foxxy706
    @foxxy706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hate this notion in the creative industry that „historically accurate = boring“. The medieval period especially had so much interesting and colorful variety of fashion, armors, hairstyles etc. and we always get this muddy brown studded leather rubbish in almost every movie, show, video game and the likes.

  • @YlvaTheRed
    @YlvaTheRed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love all of these assessments!

  • @agypsycircle
    @agypsycircle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! I appreciate you saying all this, it helps me to stay away from the shows and pay attention to the actual historical information that is out there and keep watching videos like yours where actual historians note what is correct and what is purely speculation!

  • @eysteinnwolla5994
    @eysteinnwolla5994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just watching this video, and wanted to comment on what you said about the title "jarl". It's equivalent with the old English tile "eorl". it was a title used by the chieftains as early as in merovikingtime. Etymology and origin:
    The title is probably related to the name erilaz, which is known from inscriptions in the older futhark on rune stones and amulets from the Roman Iron Age and the migration period. The word is also related to the Anglo-Saxon noble title eorl, later earl. All these names have a possible etymological origin in the proto-Germanic erǭ, which means battle or strife. The etymology is also seen in connection with the North Germanic Herulans (2nd-4th centuries). It is therefore assumed that earl has its origins in a military title from the older Iron Age.
    Earl as a chieftain's title
    The word is later known in Norway from the quatrain "Håløygjatal" from the late 19th century. In the eddaquad "Rigstula", an earl is one of three estates, together with a slave and a free peasant (karl). During the Merovingian period, earl developed into an independent chieftain's title, and in Snorri we find, among other things, the earl's seat Naumdøla. Harald Hårfagre (fair hair) is said to have given the nomination to regional governors under the king, who in turn ruled over at least four local chiefs, lords. The Håløyjars, who ruled over Hålogaland, are said to have moved their seat to Lade, by the Trondheimsfjord, at about the same time, and there they are said to have started calling themselves Ladejarls. Among the Håløygätten, the Ladejarles, earl was almost a hereditary princely title.
    The earls thus became challengers to royal power, especially as the charging earls came into conflict with the royal family in the 9th century. The Ladejars allied themselves with the Danish king against the sons of Eirik Blodøks (Eirik's sons) and then ruled Norway in the years 970-995, 1000-1015 and 1028-1029, as lords of the Danish crown. During his reign (1015-1028), Olav the Saint is said to have appointed only one earl at the same time, as his closest subordinate. Jarl was also used as the ruler of the Norwegian treasury of Orkney, where the title was inherited.
    Towards the end of the High Middle Ages, the earl title fell out of use. In 1237 Earl Skule was given the title of duke by King Håkon Håkonsson, who put him higher in rank than earl. In Hirdskrå, as it was established by Magnus Lagabøte between 1273-1277, the earls were also placed under a duke. After Archbishop Jørund died in 1309, the title earl was only given to royal sons and governors on Orkney. 😊

  • @sarahpauline4904
    @sarahpauline4904 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We still say to each other in my house years later "Billberries Joan!? BILBERRIES!?" We need merch.

  • @kkikkei2828
    @kkikkei2828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I personally like what media depicts as vikings compared to what real Vikings. It’s much cooler to imagine they actually wore bones/horned helmets and a bunch of fur

  • @rachaeldiviney712
    @rachaeldiviney712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm irish and when we did fancy dress as kid we all had broches on our cloaks, even kids knew this

  • @SarahGreen523
    @SarahGreen523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thoroughly enjoyed watching a Welshman get angry over a tv show! You are my favorite resource for viking re enactment, thank you!

  • @abigailbirchall5378
    @abigailbirchall5378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved vikings, I first started watching it for the history but it became apparent quite quickly it was more of a drama. But I still liked the characters and story line so watched it as a drama, until after Ragnar died.
    Ps. I would like to see you review horrible histories. Think it would be funny.

  • @Curtis488
    @Curtis488 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Old Norse language in the Vikings TV show was actually a mix of Icelandic, Danish and Norwegian with some Finnish

  • @DedicatedSpartan
    @DedicatedSpartan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:38 it is implied heavily that Rollo is a berserker that is why he fights shirtless. Not justifying the pants, bit that is Rollo not Jarl Borg.

    • @lindsaydrewe8219
      @lindsaydrewe8219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hated the lack of historical authenticity in the show but tbh I didn't mind Rollo running round with his shirt off* fans face*. But possibly you wouldn't have felt the same😅😅

  • @Mistress_Macabre13
    @Mistress_Macabre13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate your entertaining and brutal honesty.

  • @octavius32a64
    @octavius32a64 ปีที่แล้ว

    expecting History on the History channel my sweet summer child :)

  • @WillowTDog
    @WillowTDog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing is, I watched most of this show knowing none of this, but I'm fairly sure those costumes aren't quite the same as what most of them are usually wearing. But maybe it's just my memory from a place of ignorance? Some of this stuff, I really think I'd notice without him saying anything. Maybe it's the fact that the lighting and movement help? It's really dark a lot when they are indoors. Lol.

  • @belagrolaub8746
    @belagrolaub8746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was informed that the guy that is "Jarl Borg" is actually the tattooed one standing next to the guy in front with the pant flap, who is called Rollo

  • @fantasyskeep
    @fantasyskeep ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A winged spear is very effective for hunting boar. The point is inserted, then turned 90* in order to both open up the wound to increase bleeding but also to prevent the boar from running up the pole while panicking because it won't be able to get past the barbs. That being said, the barbs in the spears shown are very short and probably not very effective. The spear I used as a teen had 5.5" wings and they still got pretty far up the staff.

  • @Johnson_2022
    @Johnson_2022 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The funny thing being the Iron Born from Game of Thrones (at least in the early seasons) feel less devorsed from a Viking like look than even the best attempts in Vikings 😂

  • @naraoia4450
    @naraoia4450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so, so sorry for you. (The black wicker dustbin, though. PMSL.)

  • @azteclady
    @azteclady ปีที่แล้ว

    Rewatching this lovely rant backed with actual research and surviving items of the era.
    (I really hate how much people making shit up get celebrated for their 'historical research' in films and tv)

  • @kmaher1424
    @kmaher1424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Update from a recent Arun Shei Films video. He was wrong about accuracy. He has been shooting an independent film in Bew England. And spent a considerable amount of his small budget on costumes hand sewn from natural fiber.
    Big budget productions have no excuse. According to the nrw Atun Shei, apologizing for his previous statements

  • @gorramdarthkhal5615
    @gorramdarthkhal5615 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said Joan Bergin and that was all I needed to know.

  • @GothicXlightning
    @GothicXlightning 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:57
    well Jon's Crow outfit was certainly cooler than all those ''VIKINGS'' show outfits combined
    well i guess suits more my style

  • @emilyporter1186
    @emilyporter1186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sad thing about her claiming to have done years of research is that there are SOOO many natural historic dyeing/weaving/etc channels on TH-cam that you can find with one search. Like its... Just a search engine away but she can't find this info after supposed years?

  • @lananieves4595
    @lananieves4595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, I'm officially addicted to your channel (and I have never had an interest in reenactment.) I love Vikings, but I'm fully aware it's a big fantasy/fairy tale, and I don't at all think of it as nonfiction. It's a fantasy soap opera, IMO. It's really cool to hear from someone who knows about REAL Viking history and culture. Thanks to this channel, I may end up checking out a re-enactment event (as a spectator) - what you do is really interesting and, I think, important, from the perspective of making real, accurate history very accessible.

  • @fantasyskeep
    @fantasyskeep ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you please talk about Viking makeup and shamans?

  • @alextheasparagus6675
    @alextheasparagus6675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve literally seen us:ians online being like “I took a dna test and I’m 3% Scandinavian so I’m a Viking descendant” and then dress up like people from this show it’s so cringey I can’t

  • @simbelmyne7767
    @simbelmyne7767 ปีที่แล้ว

    I laughed so many times during this painful, painful video XD I love the way your brain works ty for the knowledge!!

  • @katherinemorelle7115
    @katherinemorelle7115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look, we all know the only good thing about Vikings is Travis Fimmel’s piercing blue eyes.
    Though still not quite as impressive as his undie modelling days. I like him. He’s a nice, humble Aussie farm boy. I wish him success even if I don’t really like the stuff he’s in. I can’t help it.

  • @WillowLeeWaters
    @WillowLeeWaters 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Bilberry Joan, bilberry” 🤣 savage….I know literally nothing about historically accurate Viking wear but these roasts are fun. I can never watch Vikings again without picking it apart for all to hear 😂

  • @janetmackinnon3411
    @janetmackinnon3411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've just found you...what joy!Thjank you

  • @lordofuzkulak8308
    @lordofuzkulak8308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With regards to the pink - was it actually pink (as in intentionally pink), or was it red which had faded/run/etc? Either way they’d probably still have worn it because to not to would be a waste of clothing, plus the whole pink = feminine thing is a modern invention; pink was used for boys up to the start of the 20th century precisely because it was a paler form of red which was regarded as a masculine, martial colour and its a pity more people in the modern day don’t know that.

  • @michaelhorton7684
    @michaelhorton7684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy your insight and historical knowledge. I have some Viking ancestry and am just starting to get into the history and clothing styles. Thank you!

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for taking the time to comment :) I hope you enjoy researching!

  • @avrilroberts42
    @avrilroberts42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lmho Why couldn't all History teachers be like you ? Kids would learn vastly more history and actually be interested in the subject. Brilliant and thank you for actually bringing history to life.

  • @greata80
    @greata80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you say "marmot fur" I just laughed because... marmots.

  • @HistoryandHeadlines
    @HistoryandHeadlines 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am checking out this video per a recommendation from someone responding to one of my comments on another channel!

  • @arth_steps
    @arth_steps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They wear what Skallagrim would say "leather apple pie armour" lol

  • @peach411
    @peach411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like what you do, the historical accuracy using the actual
    Techniques etc but I also enjoy costume designers that can evoke an era but distill
    It for modern tastes.

  • @douglasvictorelli5995
    @douglasvictorelli5995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting for Eggers' The Northman to get vikings right

  • @WhiteLiteBarbie
    @WhiteLiteBarbie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The passion is palpable

  • @petrairene
    @petrairene 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm wondering, what dyes were commonly available to the nordic people? I would assume that dying a good black was quite difficult at that time, so black was probably very uncommon in viking age clothing.

  • @alexmanning9961
    @alexmanning9961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's the thing, tv shows and movies are going to take some liberties with story, characters and history. And that's all good and well expected (to a certain extent) for the sake of story. But the one area where they don't have to take liberties is with the costumes. You can make the costumes historically accurate without sacrificing story. And that's why, honestly, bad historical costumes and armor piss me off more than anything else.

  • @craigbutler623
    @craigbutler623 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rollo also wore clothes from Paris, not just his vikings clothes.

  • @kelseylogas1580
    @kelseylogas1580 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know it's bad when Black Adder had better costumes than the Tudors....
    Genuine question: I thought lamellar plates were period? Was your objection the contruction materials or the plates themselves? I keep finding online articles about the lamellar plates and maybe I'm misunderstanding but you seem to dislike them. I'm hoping you wouldn't mind elaborating a bit more?
    Love your channel, love your rants, and you make me laugh with every video. I am so enjoying bingeing your back catalogue. Looking forward to more!

  • @Druzica18
    @Druzica18 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    'Hard to watch trash tv cashing in on Game of thrones' is probably the best dressing-down of the series I've ever heard. (I watched for awhile but gave up after it became obvious that the showrunners REALLY hated all their female characters that weren't Lagertha.)

  • @SaszaDerRoyt
    @SaszaDerRoyt ปีที่แล้ว

    My great gandmother in 1920s Germany wore a whole animal pelt as a fashionable fancy scarf, it certainly doesn't belong in the 8th/9th century lmao

  • @dayswillburn777
    @dayswillburn777 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand and appreciate historical accuracy when depicting certain cultures. I agree with with your point about it being wrong, maybe even dangerous, to pass off historical inaccuracies as face when it's not even close!
    With that said, the show Vikings is still enjoyable to me because of the story and characters. That just me though. But at this point, I sadly don't expect historical accuracy in movies or TV shows...i.e. Woman King 🤦🏾‍♂️ great video though! Your reaction at 10:20 was priceless 😂😂

  • @monsterforge1763
    @monsterforge1763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The spears are fashioned from the Frankish Carolingian 'Winged Spear' one is mentioned as a 'Southern Spear' in the Poetic Epic 'The Battle of Maldon'.

  • @Xirque666
    @Xirque666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope that I will see pink dressed viking warriors om a show on the future...

  • @seanreynolds7369
    @seanreynolds7369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The producers hand their hands in all of this. Damm them

  • @jackielou68
    @jackielou68 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "He looks like a black wicker dust bin."
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
    We have a reenacting event coming up this weekend and I needed this to mentally prep for all the horrible things I'm going to see! :-D

  • @estherwestberg3937
    @estherwestberg3937 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm doing viking / medieval reenactment and almost everything you shows hurts in me (exept the accurat stuff). If Joan Burgen had been in Scandinavia where I live, she would probably have known that we did not dress like that.
    Love that you are interested in historical clothes :)

  • @JamieHaDov
    @JamieHaDov 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She won an award for historic costuming for the TUDORS of all things? Well that’s a red flag right there

  • @six2make4
    @six2make4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean... They call the village Ragnar is from Kattegat... Such a town or village does not exist or seem to have ever existed in Norway it is however a body of water between Denmark and Sweden. So if a show is just flat out wrong basically in the first frame... Take it with a mountain of salt.

  • @StraylightWintermute
    @StraylightWintermute 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you too want to go down an obscure internet research spiral on the pink fake fur thing, look up "vararfeldir," which is apparently the Icelandic term for "shaggy" pile woven wool cloaks. There's some information on how they were woven on weighted warp looms.

  • @okioki1131
    @okioki1131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the chainmail worn by Ragnar is from tales, handmade by his mother and one of a kind. So I wouldn't expect it to be so accurate to other vikings of the time.

  • @jackielou68
    @jackielou68 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK Jimmy, I did try a google search but can't find exactly what you were referencing for the pink tufts of wool. Can you please provide me with a little more to go on? I feel like this would be a hilarious cloak to wear at events for all of the black leather "vikings" to complain about.

  • @oldoneeye7516
    @oldoneeye7516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    godsdammit, you were too nice. When I watched the show i screamed at the screen ^^ Some of my friends still send me pictures from the show to anger me.
    Well, I enjoyed the video.

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha! I'm glad you enjoyed it. So I clearly need to get better at ranting, good to know! XD

  • @rebekahanderson5020
    @rebekahanderson5020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great fun to watch! 10/10 would watch another!

  • @VonMorjo
    @VonMorjo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video!! It would be interesting to see a video on the shows/movies you think get the costumes right or at least somewhat correct!

  • @MandyMalagon
    @MandyMalagon ปีที่แล้ว

    When I was trying to develop my völva costume, I quickly came to realize that what I wanted was more "fantastical' than historically accurate, and yes, I did use Vikings as reference for that very reason. haha

  • @zebraskin
    @zebraskin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    While I don't expect much from Vikings/Tudors shows in accuracy (I watch anything even loosely history) it does really add to a show when they at least try a bit. I am hopeful and think with the internet spreading intrest in such things that in the future we are going to see more at least half trying with historical shows. Both cause a growing base and people learning old craft getting involved. I doubt I'll ever see a fully hand sewn 100% accurate 18th century drama, but hand sewn grommets and a shift under a stays/corsets goes along way. My kid is also a history nerd so while I may watch some of the bad shows with her I generally try to use that to spark an interest in real stories (dress, food, etc) of the time.

  • @roybuis7646
    @roybuis7646 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder what you think of costume desginer Terry Dresbach and her costumes features in the show Outlander.

  • @zombiekelpie255
    @zombiekelpie255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know if you have watched Norsemen (on Netflix) yet, I mean you should, you definitely should. It's hilarious and absurd and is literally the best tv show ever created, by people with the most bonkers imagination possible.... er anyway it's about vikings, and yes it's not exactly historically accurate but sooooooooo very entertaining! And I love the costumes!
    Although if you watch it and then say mean things about it for any reason I'll probably glare at my laptop and rant about you to my crabs.
    You should watch it though :D

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I need to see Norsemen! It’s on my list :D
      You possess crabs? I love it!

    • @zombiekelpie255
      @zombiekelpie255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheWelshViking yup 3 purple pincher hermit crabs, who are extremely judgemental of anyone who doesn't love Norsemen 😂 (and Scotland, they are proudly Scottish 😂)

    • @janehollander1934
      @janehollander1934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ohhh I just started watching 'Norsemen' on Netflix, after giving up on 'Vikings' only 3 episodes in. Couldn't take it anymore 😵.
      It's soo clear that 'Norsemen' is giving a tongue in cheek🤭 verson... spoofing 'Vikings'.

  • @lenaeospeixinhos
    @lenaeospeixinhos ปีที่แล้ว

    This was super fun 😂

  • @ellajando-saul2493
    @ellajando-saul2493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am having trouble finding photos/descriptions of these wool fleece "fake fur" cloaks. Does anyone know any articles/websites that address them (hopefully with pictures)?

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pile weaving! There’s a fair bit online about it. Here are a couple of fun pieces, one academic, one very much not! The blog post has some nice pictures of slightly later pile woven wool in a museum context.
      nilleviking.no/experimental-archaeology/pile-weaving/
      soas.is.ed.ac.uk/index.php/psas/article/download/8405/8373