Ссылка на результаты тестов/Link to test results: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/c... Жёсткое тестирование легендарного боевого ножа Ka-Bar USMC. Hardcore testing of legendary combat knife Ka-Bar USMC.
It took more abuse, and lasted way longer than I thought it would. I knew it would snap, but I thought it would have broken where the blade meets that 90 degree tang. For it to take that degree of punishment and stress, just proves what a great, quality knife the Ka-Bar actually is. Great video. 👍
That blade held out that 99% of knives wouldn't even come close to. 1095 can be impressive if properly heat treated and folks in KA BAR realized how to do it. Long long time ago. Survival, bushcrafting, combat-you name it. Great, universal blade.
Vininull, I think the reason why it broke was because of how 1095 steel can be a very brittle metal when it is heat treated to a high Rockwell, especially around the 55-60 area. Ka-bars don't have a deferential temper to them, just like you saw. The steel pattern from that cross section of where it broke, the grains in the steel were very homogeneous. The ka-bar has a very high rockwell throughout all of the metal, so when you hit steel that has a very high rockwell with another very hard object, it will fracture and chip rather than bend or deform. Hope this helps :)
"This is very unexpected" Really? You were trying to bang it through a 4x4 post with a mini-sledge. That's exactly what I expected to happen. What did you think it was made of? Wolverine's middle finger?
Then he's banging it through metal & wood blocks & banging on it side like it's a chisle/axe.. people need to buy them a another tool ( idc what people say Ka-bar is a badass/very good knife..)
Shows how much abuse this knife can handle. The people saying it is bad for Kabar knives to snap like this here is a short history lesson. The USMC Ka-Bar was designed and used as a Fighty/Utility knife. It originally was a fighting knife. The clip point being slightly sharpened makes the knife pierce better the fuller/blood groove gives it better stiffness and to lighten the blade. The hand guard has a curve towards the handle so it rests against the users hand better. The handle weather stacked leather or plastic keeps it firm in the users hand and is made to accommodate most hand sizes even large one. Now keeping all that in mind the knife was really made to do one thing and that is to kill another human being. Primarily by stabbing them or slicing them. The blade is strong enough to withstand hitting bone without breaking or to cut through it (ie beheading). The utility portion is really just a opportunistic thing. You see an opportunity to where it can be applied then it can usually do it once or twice depending on the task. It is no real surprise it failed under the weight of a sledgehammer and cutting steel and so forth. It was never designed to do those task's. You wouldn't use a skinning knife to chop your wood then why would you expect a knife designed to kill people to do it. It is performing outside of the realm which it was designed for. If I snap the tip of a Ka-bar trying to pry the head off an engine then who is at fault. Me of course because I am not using the proper tool for the job. Now if I was trying to pry the head off of another person it will perform and do just that. Can it be used as a utility knife in a situation of survival you bet your ass it can but do not expect it to move large boulders and so forth. The knife is simply a combat/fighting knife and that is all. All the features of it I previously said makes it perfect for stabbing people or slicing them. This knife can and will kill people, open ammo boxes and ration tins of the WWI and WWII era, hammer a stake for a tent, cut foliage etc etc. The main point of all this being that it is primarily by design a combat knife the same as a Bowie Knife NOT a survival knife so don't expect it to be one and unless people are made of metal then don't try to cut metal. Props to the guy who made the video to see how far it can be stressed before breaking.
+evilcowboy yep, other than the blade breaking, which was probably from weakening the spine with that hammer, i would say there was not a single thing he did to it that could not have been quickly fixed with a bit of work with a file or sharpening stones, i would say it isn't a good knife to baton with but in normal everyday use as a hunting/utility knife i would say it will last a long time.
+Samwise of course and usually you are not batoning with a sledgehammer. I have a SOG Seal Pup and it is a combat knife that can be repurposed for medium duty camp tasks but people are disappointed that it can't hack down a redwood or flip a boulder. I'm surprised vininull got this far abusing the Kabar.
Iamthedudeman00 I'm not understanding how the handle material dictates the blades strength. I think you mean to say that an original kabar would have broken sooner, due to steel with less strength used back when. you can get a modern stacked leather handle kabar made with the same exact steel used in the ka1212 and ka1214. I understand your confusion. but you can't claim that kabars with leather handles are of less quality than kabars with the rubber grips, because it's simply not true
They are not a indestructible knife they aren't meant to be batoned .They are a fighting knife. If you look after them and maintain them they will last a life time .They will cut threw bone and flesh with ease. There's a good reason they are so loved
I love the Kabar haterz, "get a true full tang", they say, "the Kabar is garbage" lol. What they fail to understand is, this is a soldiers knife, and was designed as such just before WWII. No soldier wants to tromp around with a huge heavy hunk of steel on their side. First, it's a pain in the ass to carry along with all the other gear they gotta hump. Second, a 7 inch true full tang blade is too damn slow n heavy for hand to hand CQB. The Kabar design however, gives one all the reach and cutting power of a big blade, yet is lightning quick. It's probably, still to this day, the fastest in hand big blade ever made. It also gives the user plenty of handle, so you can choke back on it and gain even more slashing/chopping power. The ergonomics are excellent and the balance/feel of the blade in hand are energetic & lively. Would I like a Kabar USMC blade with a true full tang, milled out for weight reduction, with an integral guard? Sure! But the knife would lose certain characteristics. The weight, feel, and balance would all be changed. It wouldn't be the same...These knives were made to be mass produced in war time, and fancy tang milling wasn't part of the program, or even considered on blades back then. Yet the men who designed this knife for fighting and utility created a timeless masterpiece. This blade has a soul. Few blades have that quality. Sure, it can be broken, but it takes a helluva lot to do it. I'll take that trade off for speed and usability.
Kabars are not garbage but this test would of been better suited for the BK2. This USMC model is not a good CQC knife for self defense. Would it work? yes. Would it be ideal? hell no. Speed is the name of the game if your being rushed by an attacker. A fast deploying razor sharp folder can go from the pocket to the throat in one linear motion. This gigantic USMC knife may look intimidating hanging from the belt of a biker but it's not really practical. IMO
Myk Ford In a civilian everyday setting for self defense purposes, I'm with you. On the battlefield, whether urban or otherwise, I disagree. The Kabar was designed for soldiers when the human wave tactic was heavily utilized in warfare, especially by Imperial Japan. Hand to hand combat was a given, it was going to happen, no way around it. That kind of deal is not a job for a folder. Also, Kabar makes some very good, quick access, polymer sheaths for this blade. Today soldiers carry them attached to their LBE, often in a cross draw position so the blade can be unsheathed and slash in one fluid motion, much like Samurai deployed the Katana. I'm not saying this is the best fighting knife ever. That is a completely subjective taste for each individual. There are so many good knives today, but that wasn't the case back in the day, the options were slim... But I think I can say this with strong confidence: that the Kabar type knife has seen more actual combat and soldier use than any other knife made.
+Chacote Outdoor Recreation Thank you sir.. But I have had no knife fights, No sir, Thankfully not, LOL... and hopefully never will. Nasty business... But I do train Escrima/Kali/FMA, and I practice with live blades. I own a fair number of knives and other edged weapons, and I've handled a few blades in my time. There are no finer "big" blades for martial application than the standard Kabar and the Kabar 1245 Tanto, imho. The Gerber Mark II is another one I really like, very fast and nimble. Daggers are another story though, not really a field knife. Specifically made for killing.
Саша, если существует рай для ножей, то все клинки, прошедшие через твои руки, достойны этого. Как-бы они, ножи то есть, не грешили при своей недолгой ножевой жизни :)))
I just opened my brand new KABAR fighting knife today. It is a full siize KABAR. It is a Navy. I used it on my faro rod. It took a spark off of the knife edge. It didn't even phase the cutting edge of the knife at all.It has been suggested, by Dave Canterbery ,that one grind the spine of other knives to do this. No need to do that to this knife. I expect this to be my go to knife for the rest of my life.. I paid $ 85.00 for this knife, at the knife center.
I was issued a k-bar in 1972, used it through Vietnam and Lebanon, and kept it after I retired in 1990. It was used and misused in various ways including digging a foxhole in rocky ground. I never once tried to cut tubing or cable, but I did "baton" the knife many times. I understand and supprt severe testing, but this is abuse, far beyond "normal".
But taking the test further than normal provides alot more information, dont you think? From what I can tell from this test these knives are extremely durable. The only reason it failed is that he pounts it with a hammer, basically shattering the blade because its hardened. Same thing would happen with most if not all hardened metal blades. Also, thank you for your service.
It is utterly impossible that you were batoning back in the 70s. Everyone knows (at least on some blade forums) that batoning was invented *after* TH-cam was created. That means that batoning didn't exist before 2005. ;)
CSharp so wait a sec, your telling me that before 2005 that noone in the entirety of history of all mankind has ever used a knife to split wood using a hammer like object to force the blade through the material? I doubt that's true, I find it hard to believe that nobody had ever thought of that in several thousand years of human history.
This video only serves to demonstrate the idiotic expectations of certain preppers and survivalists. Any of them who would expect their knives to survive this kind of abuse would surly not survive because they would break the very tools needed to keep them alive. There is an old saying that "there is a tool for every job." A knife, no knife, is designed to take this kind of punishment, and still be able to hold an edge, cut, slice, and be easy to sharpen, and hold an edge. To make a knife that tough , it would have to be made out of steel far too hard to have those qualities. Where I come from, we use an axe for chopping, cutters to cut cable, a hack saw to cut tubing. It would be a very desperate situation to use a knife for those tasks. Battoning a knife (which I never even heard of prior to watching youtube) would be considered crazy and careless. If attempted, it would be gently done with a limb or other piece of wood, because any moron knows your'e likely to break your knife! Waling on the back of a knife with a hardened steel sledge hammer is just criminal! It only sets the metal up for failure. The KaBar is an excellent tool for which it was designed, and I would have total confidence carrying it in the bush for any situation. Oh, and I wouldn't be without my axe either!
Nothing disappointing at all. In the Bear Gryllis test the tip broke off in the sheet steel puncture tests. He also did the stab and pry test prior to beating it with a sledge hammer. The Gerber would likely snap off if he had of pried with it after the beating. And the Gerber is a bitch to sharpen, and doesn't hold an edge as well. I hold fast to the statement that no knife is meant to stand up to this kind of abuse. It would be rather silly to be "disappointed" by any of this.
In my opinion the knife handled everything admirably! This knife is not full tang and yet it demonstrated incredible strength in lateral force test! I was very surprised that the tang held up to abuse of this magnitude!! And any knife even a BK2 WILL break if you smash it into the wood with a heavy hammer! I have a whole lot of new respect for the Kabar Usmc knife after This video!
@@fathersonsurvival Not by regular use, that knife is a beast. But hitting it with a sledge hammer it will break. There is a video on youtube where someone broke it with a hammer going in a tree. Cheers
Love how everybode love the destruction tests on his other videos, but when it comes to usa- knifes, their crying like babies. Good work! Keep on doing this videos!
Nobody is trying to bash the KA-BAR or USA in general in this video. No point of getting offended. And in some comments above he said he used this kind of hammer for the big knives (which is idiotic to hammer a knife with a metal hammer but that's what he did). Just take it like push it to the limit video. The knife took great abuse, something nobody in real life would actually put it through. God Bless!
Great video man! I really didn't expect this result. Appreciate you making these type of videos. Definitely gives a perspective of how a particular knife will perform and likely last under normal use.
Is there a particular reason why you used a metal hammer for this test? In your other hard use videos, you use a rubber mallet. Good testing, however no one will smash a knife with a metal hammer. The loads on the knife from the hammer are far worse than whats on the cutting edge when your smashing the knife. Everything about the knife was excellent until you started smashing the spine of the knife with the hammer. I like your hard use videos. Keep them coming.
***** use wood in between, as a buffer. and btw, i think around 50 hits (with about 20 of them NOT being square) from a sledge hammer is exceptional. good test, regardless Thanks.
spyderspic666 exactly. This still speaks to the quality of ka bar. You can beat it with a mini sledge for quite a long time before it smashes!!! Also notice how the spine was soft enough to bend, but the edge was durable.... ka bar is the best. I swear by mine.
Прекрасный тест, спасибо) Алекс, как от значимой фигуры в ножевом сообществе и просто как от умного человека хотелось бы услышать твоё мнение о предметах EDC и о теме EDC в целом. Ну и узнать что ты носишь с собой :D
Even if the blade had broken at the last test ... She did well to the other tests. And it is worth remembering that it is a combat knife and not Bushcrafth.
Seen more USMC Kabar Fighting/Utility knifes broken than any knife in my life. Once seen three Kabars broken in less than ten minutes once, by throwing them at a tree. The steel in them looked much different than the steel on the knife here. All the older knives were rat-tail tang broken at guard juncture, steel was very grainy. Never bought another Kabar after that though I might one of the newer ones such as shown here in this demo. I am impressed in the upgrade quality in comparison to the old war ones.
Great review as always! I was wondering, in older videos (such as the eskabar test), you used to use a rubber mallet for batoning, and in recent videos, you've switched to a heavier steel hammer. Do you think using this hammer gives a different result in these tests? I wonder if the denting that occurs in the spine weakens the knife in a way that makes it seem weaker than it is? I could be wrong, just wondered what you thought. Thanks again! Can't wait to see a hard use test with INFI vs CPM 3V :)
Жесткий тест надо сказать.. Сразу видно Русский тестировал)) Нош в наших руках должен уметь все)) Я ставлю +10 стойкости Кабара и +4 убойности молотка..) Обазательно приобрету себе Кабар !!
Очень поучительный тест для владельцев этого ножа, теперь они точно знают, рамки дозволенного ) Сань, ты еще не созрел, чтоб подвергнуть Strider похожим истязаниям?
Судя по зерну что видно на сколе его перекалили(как по мне). Клинок имеет высокую твёрдость по шкале HRC из за чего он хрупкий. Вообще тест жесткий, так нагружать нож, впечатлило)) Классный обзор.
Entertaining. The KA-BAR was tested and approved by far better men 75 years ago, it's certainly good enough for me. Put him in a 100 degree jungle against a fanatical enemy that never surrenders and I'll bet he wouldn't beat his knife, rifle or canteen with a hammer.
its a high carbon steel and it had some serious deform by the hammer and thats why it broke... the deformations messed with material crystalic structure and failed...
Огорчился я,конечно, впоряде.Реально нравился этот нож.Думал почему его до сих пор его небыло на тесте жесткого использования.Всегда сомневался,что кончик здесь выдержит,думал он,самое слабое место.А не могло повлиять то,что железом об железо бил.Я понимаю,что ты запарился резиновые молотки переводить,но все же...Если б хотя бы деревяшкой какой нибудь лупить,всеравно сломался бы?Как думаешь?
Awesome video, but in the Kabars defense, when out in the woods or camping you won't be using a mini sledge to baton, you'll more than likely be using another be of wood. Just my opinion. Thanks for the video.
ive seen your videos before. they are awesome. i live in canada and unfortunately dont speak russian. thankyou thankyou for the english subtitles. i wish jake ivenbach would do the same. im going to ask him to have a look at your channel.
Может быть все же нож сломался от воздействия металла по металлу(как версия)у меня сломался Бак худлум на тесте,но там выпил,ослабляющий конструкцию.Но в буклете с ножом было описано,что батонить надо ударяя по ножу обязательно деревянным поленом,что топором молотком нельзя.Может есть смысл в этом?И нож мне Бак поменял после просмотра видео.Все же от металла воздействие думаю сильно отличается.
***** Когда мне было лет 14 и дед учил меня рубить дрова колуном(такой топор)то когда рубишь к примеру комель березовый и колун вошел глубоко но не разрубил есть 2 варианта,либо поднять и ударить обухом колун вместе с поленом о другое полено,либо если как у меня тогда сил не всегда хватало,ударить поленом по колуну.Когда я спросил,может стоит ударить лучше кувалдой,дед мне ответил что колун может лопнуть,и кувалдой НЕЛЬЗЯ.Я это запомнил на всю жизнь.Тест есть тест,понятно,но если бы не молотком бить,то наверное и результат был бы другим.Имхо.
Олег Мартишин Согласен с тобой Олег может он бы и не сломался. Но тут ещё нужно учитывать одну вещь. У твоего деда топор был провереный годами необходимый инструмент а здесь мы имеем дело с каким-то дядей который приходит и говорит - "ребята, вот этот нож самыйсупермегакрутотактик... легендарный меганож из суперстали и т.п." а это уже извините требует доказательств. В противном случае о чём весь этот пиар и реклама.
I'm not surprised it broke after all that. You were wailing on it with a hardened forgers hammer, any other knife wouldn't even have lasted a fraction as long as this knife.
No, YOU were not talking about size, weight, dimensions and steels. You just wrote "any other knife" and that is pretty wrong. Well, an INFI-Steel Busse in the same size, weight and dimensions will outperform the Kabar, many other Knifes in many different steels will do that as well, thats not a secret. The Kabar is still much bang for the buck and there is nothing wrong with that, just dont overhype the Kabar because its just a Kabar, i love mine, but i would not overstress it like shown in the video.
почти каждый раз нож налетает на бетон, прям тенденция складывается. операторская работа тоже могла бы быть в этот раз качественней. спасибо за тест, Алекс!
как же я ждал хард-юза этой модели. Алекс, как думаешь может ли cold steel recon tanto гипотетически хорошо пройти это же тестирование, интересно твое мнение.
Спасибо. Интересно и познавательно. Информация о слабом хвостовике у такого мощного ножа наглядно подтвердилась (Увы...). При рубке троса и экстремальном батонинге поперек волокон создалось впечатление, что на клинке зонная закалка )) Ну или дело в инструменте. Уважаемый vininull, вы всегда такую кувалду при тестировании используете, или специально припасли ее для легендарного Ка-Бара?
I have to say, on this test - the kabar bit into the wood more than the majority resulting in achieving greater force on the blade when pulling, also, your pulling force was almost 90 degrees to the blade - which is more than ive seen you be able to do on other knives. It looked like you bent the blade about 45 degrees on the first pull lol. The tests arent uniform but they have helped me decide on folding knifes, thanks and keep up the good work. Great videos!!
Саша спасибо за видео . Я хотел приобрести данную модель Полагая что он надежен как скала Придется рассмотреть варианты с Cold steel со сталью vg1 san mai 3.
This sold me on the knife even more. The fact that it did all those things a knife should never ever do, is very impressive!
For sale: gently used Ka-Bar USMC knife.
Comes with little knife too:))
It took more abuse, and lasted way longer than I thought it would. I knew it would snap, but I thought it would have broken where the blade meets that 90 degree tang. For it to take that degree of punishment and stress, just proves what a great, quality knife the Ka-Bar actually is. Great video. 👍
Hitting hardened steel with hardened steel causes microscopic stress fractures in the steel. Keep doing it and something breaks.
That blade held out that 99% of knives wouldn't even come close to.
1095 can be impressive if properly heat treated and folks in KA BAR realized how to do it. Long long time ago.
Survival, bushcrafting, combat-you name it.
Great, universal blade.
Vininull, I think the reason why it broke was because of how 1095 steel can be a very brittle metal when it is heat treated to a high Rockwell, especially around the 55-60 area. Ka-bars don't have a deferential temper to them, just like you saw. The steel pattern from that cross section of where it broke, the grains in the steel were very homogeneous. The ka-bar has a very high rockwell throughout all of the metal, so when you hit steel that has a very high rockwell with another very hard object, it will fracture and chip rather than bend or deform. Hope this helps :)
"This is very unexpected"
Really? You were trying to bang it through a 4x4 post with a mini-sledge. That's exactly what I expected to happen. What did you think it was made of? Wolverine's middle finger?
+jessica marionette Lmao exacty, but i think this video just Proves how bad ass this knife really is.
jessica marionette why middle finger lol. Adamantium
My Fällkniven takes that abuse without problem!
Then he's banging it through metal & wood blocks & banging on it side like it's a chisle/axe.. people need to buy them a another tool ( idc what people say Ka-bar is a badass/very good knife..)
He did the same batoning with Gerber Bear Grylls knife and it did not break like this
Now you have two knifes
+James Martin Ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Re nato sure,you still can ude the bade of the knife as a cutter and the other part for a spear for example
knives*
Shows how much abuse this knife can handle.
The people saying it is bad for Kabar knives to snap like this here is a short history lesson.
The USMC Ka-Bar was designed and used as a Fighty/Utility knife. It originally was a fighting knife. The clip point being slightly sharpened makes the knife pierce better the fuller/blood groove gives it better stiffness and to lighten the blade. The hand guard has a curve towards the handle so it rests against the users hand better. The handle weather stacked leather or plastic keeps it firm in the users hand and is made to accommodate most hand sizes even large one. Now keeping all that in mind the knife was really made to do one thing and that is to kill another human being. Primarily by stabbing them or slicing them. The blade is strong enough to withstand hitting bone without breaking or to cut through it (ie beheading).
The utility portion is really just a opportunistic thing. You see an opportunity to where it can be applied then it can usually do it once or twice depending on the task.
It is no real surprise it failed under the weight of a sledgehammer and cutting steel and so forth. It was never designed to do those task's. You wouldn't use a skinning knife to chop your wood then why would you expect a knife designed to kill people to do it. It is performing outside of the realm which it was designed for. If I snap the tip of a Ka-bar trying to pry the head off an engine then who is at fault. Me of course because I am not using the proper tool for the job. Now if I was trying to pry the head off of another person it will perform and do just that.
Can it be used as a utility knife in a situation of survival you bet your ass it can but do not expect it to move large boulders and so forth. The knife is simply a combat/fighting knife and that is all. All the features of it I previously said makes it perfect for stabbing people or slicing them. This knife can and will kill people, open ammo boxes and ration tins of the WWI and WWII era, hammer a stake for a tent, cut foliage etc etc.
The main point of all this being that it is primarily by design a combat knife the same as a Bowie Knife NOT a survival knife so don't expect it to be one and unless people are made of metal then don't try to cut metal.
Props to the guy who made the video to see how far it can be stressed before breaking.
Well said couldn't of said it better👏👏👏👏👏
+evilcowboy yep, other than the blade breaking, which was probably from weakening the spine with that hammer, i would say there was not a single thing he did to it that could not have been quickly fixed with a bit of work with a file or sharpening stones, i would say it isn't a good knife to baton with but in normal everyday use as a hunting/utility knife i would say it will last a long time.
And not to mention the leather handled kabar would have failed so much sooner!
+Samwise of course and usually you are not batoning with a sledgehammer. I have a SOG Seal Pup and it is a combat knife that can be repurposed for medium duty camp tasks but people are disappointed that it can't hack down a redwood or flip a boulder. I'm surprised vininull got this far abusing the Kabar.
Iamthedudeman00 I'm not understanding how the handle material dictates the blades strength. I think you mean to say that an original kabar would have broken sooner, due to steel with less strength used back when. you can get a modern stacked leather handle kabar made with the same exact steel used in the ka1212 and ka1214. I understand your confusion. but you can't claim that kabars with leather handles are of less quality than kabars with the rubber grips, because it's simply not true
Thank you so much for the translations!:)
let's try one of those famous Russian knives...---I'll do the test
😂🆗🆒
Famous russian knife is a hatchet.
@@user-lq9ol5xg8n I think he means Kizlyar knifes
There in no famous russian knife...they dont know how to use a sharpened blade with handel
Kizlyar Supreme Sensei D2 stonewash, tacwash & Kizlyar Supreme Senpai.
This was extrememly interesting and informative! Thank you so much for providing CC and a link to the spreadsheet!
Thanks ;)
They are not a indestructible knife they aren't meant to be batoned .They are a fighting knife. If you look after them and maintain them they will last a life time .They will cut threw bone and flesh with ease. There's a good reason they are so loved
Thinking about getting this for Christmas and this video has ultimately sold it for me. Definitely getting one
That will buff right out!
I love the Kabar haterz, "get a true full tang", they say, "the Kabar is garbage" lol. What they fail to understand is, this is a soldiers knife, and was designed as such just before WWII. No soldier wants to tromp around with a huge heavy hunk of steel on their side. First, it's a pain in the ass to carry along with all the other gear they gotta hump. Second, a 7 inch true full tang blade is too damn slow n heavy for hand to hand CQB. The Kabar design however, gives one all the reach and cutting power of a big blade, yet is lightning quick. It's probably, still to this day, the fastest in hand big blade ever made. It also gives the user plenty of handle, so you can choke back on it and gain even more slashing/chopping power. The ergonomics are excellent and the balance/feel of the blade in hand are energetic & lively.
Would I like a Kabar USMC blade with a true full tang, milled out for weight reduction, with an integral guard? Sure! But the knife would lose certain characteristics. The weight, feel, and balance would all be changed. It wouldn't be the same...These knives were made to be mass produced in war time, and fancy tang milling wasn't part of the program, or even considered on blades back then. Yet the men who designed this knife for fighting and utility created a timeless masterpiece. This blade has a soul. Few blades have that quality. Sure, it can be broken, but it takes a helluva lot to do it. I'll take that trade off for speed and usability.
Kabars are not garbage but this test would of been better suited for the BK2. This USMC model is not a good CQC knife for self defense. Would it work? yes. Would it be ideal? hell no. Speed is the name of the game if your being rushed by an attacker. A fast deploying razor sharp folder can go from the pocket to the throat in one linear motion. This gigantic USMC knife may look intimidating hanging from the belt of a biker but it's not really practical. IMO
Myk Ford In a civilian everyday setting for self defense purposes, I'm with you. On the battlefield, whether urban or otherwise, I disagree. The Kabar was designed for soldiers when the human wave tactic was heavily utilized in warfare, especially by Imperial Japan. Hand to hand combat was a given, it was going to happen, no way around it. That kind of deal is not a job for a folder. Also, Kabar makes some very good, quick access, polymer sheaths for this blade. Today soldiers carry them attached to their LBE, often in a cross draw position so the blade can be unsheathed and slash in one fluid motion, much like Samurai deployed the Katana.
I'm not saying this is the best fighting knife ever. That is a completely subjective taste for each individual. There are so many good knives today, but that wasn't the case back in the day, the options were slim... But I think I can say this with strong confidence: that the Kabar type knife has seen more actual combat and soldier use than any other knife made.
+Chacote Outdoor Recreation Thank you sir.. But I have had no knife fights, No sir, Thankfully not, LOL... and hopefully never will. Nasty business... But I do train Escrima/Kali/FMA, and I practice with live blades. I own a fair number of knives and other edged weapons, and I've handled a few blades in my time. There are no finer "big" blades for martial application than the standard Kabar and the Kabar 1245 Tanto, imho. The Gerber Mark II is another one I really like, very fast and nimble. Daggers are another story though, not really a field knife. Specifically made for killing.
+Myk Ford sons of anarchy fan alert
It needs to be strong enough to survive a thrust into a combatants neck or a slash across the chest. Thad all.
Саша, если существует рай для ножей, то все клинки, прошедшие через твои руки, достойны этого. Как-бы они, ножи то есть, не грешили при своей недолгой ножевой жизни :)))
:)))
Vininull I love your videos! I wish I had enough time to test knives like that!
to put it simply, the 1217 KA-BAR fighting/utility knife is the only knife you'll ever need.
I just opened my brand new KABAR fighting knife today. It is a full siize KABAR. It is a Navy.
I used it on my faro rod. It took a spark off of the knife edge. It didn't even phase the cutting edge of the knife at all.It has been suggested, by Dave Canterbery ,that one grind the spine of other knives to do this.
No need to do that to this knife. I expect this to be my go to knife for the rest of my life..
I paid $ 85.00 for this knife, at the knife center.
Я очень люблю этот нож, но все таки лаик :)
Жду с нетерпением Hard Use Testing Benchmade Contego.
yea of course it was so unexpected because beating a knife with a hammer is totally normal
I was issued a k-bar in 1972, used it through Vietnam and Lebanon, and kept it after I retired in 1990. It was used and misused in various ways including digging a foxhole in rocky ground. I never once tried to cut tubing or cable, but I did "baton" the knife many times. I understand and supprt severe testing, but this is abuse, far beyond "normal".
But taking the test further than normal provides alot more information, dont you think? From what I can tell from this test these knives are extremely durable. The only reason it failed is that he pounts it with a hammer, basically shattering the blade because its hardened. Same thing would happen with most if not all hardened metal blades.
Also, thank you for your service.
It is utterly impossible that you were batoning back in the 70s. Everyone knows (at least on some blade forums) that batoning was invented *after* TH-cam was created. That means that batoning didn't exist before 2005. ;)
he is russian.. of course he does stuff like that
CSharp so wait a sec, your telling me that before 2005 that noone in the entirety of history of all mankind has ever used a knife to split wood using a hammer like object to force the blade through the material? I doubt that's true, I find it hard to believe that nobody had ever thought of that in several thousand years of human history.
Спасибо за обзор, с нетерпением жду hard use на benchmade 810 contego!
красота ! вот это то чего я жду на канале Алекса !
Now, that is a real Hard Test! Thank you for sharing!
Pretty impressive knife tho, i was amazed IT could do all these things...
Саша, спасибо за тесты! Ты как разрушитель ножевых легенд. Пора и глока наказать)
Ах эти Хардтесты...!!! Было же время...
Слеза ностальгии.. ')
Great, have been looking for something like this. Thanks!
This video only serves to demonstrate the idiotic expectations of certain preppers and survivalists. Any of them who would expect their knives to survive this kind of abuse would surly not survive because they would break the very tools needed to keep them alive. There is an old saying that "there is a tool for every job." A knife, no knife, is designed to take this kind of punishment, and still be able to hold an edge, cut, slice, and be easy to sharpen, and hold an edge. To make a knife that tough , it would have to be made out of steel far too hard to have those qualities. Where I come from, we use an axe for chopping, cutters to cut cable, a hack saw to cut tubing. It would be a very desperate situation to use a knife for those tasks. Battoning a knife (which I never even heard of prior to watching youtube) would be considered crazy and careless. If attempted, it would be gently done with a limb or other piece of wood, because any moron knows your'e likely to break your knife! Waling on the back of a knife with a hardened steel sledge hammer is just criminal! It only sets the metal up for failure. The KaBar is an excellent tool for which it was designed, and I would have total confidence carrying it in the bush for any situation. Oh, and I wouldn't be without my axe either!
ruglette407 you have to admit, it IS disappointing that this knife can't pass the same test the gerber bear grylls knife did...
Nothing disappointing at all. In the Bear Gryllis test the tip broke off in the sheet steel puncture tests. He also did the stab and pry test prior to beating it with a sledge hammer. The Gerber would likely snap off if he had of pried with it after the beating. And the Gerber is a bitch to sharpen, and doesn't hold an edge as well.
I hold fast to the statement that no knife is meant to stand up to this kind of abuse. It would be rather silly to be "disappointed" by any of this.
ruglette407 look up "glock 81 destruction test"
shhh. don't let them know they're doing it wrong... who cares about them. let em break their survival tools and die off
LOL This is all hilarious! One of the number one priorities in survival is taking care of your gear.
In my opinion the knife handled everything admirably! This knife is not full tang and yet it demonstrated incredible strength in lateral force test! I was very surprised that the tang held up to abuse of this magnitude!!
And any knife even a BK2 WILL break if you smash it into the wood with a heavy hammer! I have a whole lot of new respect for the Kabar Usmc knife after This video!
Wow you think the bk2 would also break?? Have you seen videos. Very impressed with this Kabar!
@@fathersonsurvival Not by regular use, that knife is a beast. But hitting it with a sledge hammer it will break. There is a video on youtube where someone broke it with a hammer going in a tree. Cheers
@@BabakPA wow I’ve never heard of a bk2 breaking! Makes me feel better about this Kabar.
Good extreme video, pre-ordered mine!
Good to see you really giving it a hard go. Shows us not what to do.
Love how everybode love the destruction tests on his other videos, but when it comes to usa- knifes, their crying like babies.
Good work! Keep on doing this videos!
Nobody is trying to bash the KA-BAR or USA in general in this video. No point of getting offended. And in some comments above he said he used this kind of hammer for the big knives (which is idiotic to hammer a knife with a metal hammer but that's what he did). Just take it like push it to the limit video. The knife took great abuse, something nobody in real life would actually put it through. God Bless!
That knife is in an abusive relationship. The guy keeps saying how much he loves it but keeps trying to destroy his treasure.
TJ Jones you never know, him and that knife of his might also try and have some make sex that gets really raunchy violent, not good😟
Убийца ножиков😂😂Отличный тест,ка бар показал не плохую живучесть в целом..жаль прекратил свои видосы
Great video man! I really didn't expect this result. Appreciate you making these type of videos. Definitely gives a perspective of how a particular knife will perform and likely last under normal use.
Great video. Thank you.
Ах да, Вини, классный тест, спасибо. Пару лет назад он мне пригодился бы.
Алекс, спасибо за видео! было бы здорово после КаБара увидеть на хардюзе cold steel recon tanto :)))
hi Alex! do you have a list of the toughest knives you have tested? thanks!
Thank you crazy Russian! I would have never done that to my knife. So seriously thanks for putting it through its paces!!!
you do a great job..you are the best tester ever...cool
Спасибо за тест, Саша. Весьма неожиданный конец, однако! ((
он псих лучше по голове постучал бы наверно не сломал бы
Is there a particular reason why you used a metal hammer for this test? In your other hard use videos, you use a rubber mallet. Good testing, however no one will smash a knife with a metal hammer. The loads on the knife from the hammer are far worse than whats on the cutting edge when your smashing the knife. Everything about the knife was excellent until you started smashing the spine of the knife with the hammer. I like your hard use videos. Keep them coming.
This hammer is used for a large knives
***** use wood in between, as a buffer.
and btw, i think around 50 hits (with about 20 of them NOT being square) from a sledge hammer is exceptional. good test, regardless
Thanks.
spyderspic666 exactly. This still speaks to the quality of ka bar. You can beat it with a mini sledge for quite a long time before it smashes!!! Also notice how the spine was soft enough to bend, but the edge was durable.... ka bar is the best. I swear by mine.
@Aaron Neville bruh this is an abuse test to see how strong it is
A metal hammer what else is a hammer suppose to be made out of
Мне кажется, что железный молот виноват.
Он расклёпывает обух ножа и появляются микротрещины.
Может полимерный или резиновый молоток использовать?
Та с дуру хуй ломается , а бывает и такое что в трёх местах, я думаю у автора теста это пройденый этап.
Спасибо за тесты, всегда их смотрю с удовольствием.
Glock 78, случайно не планируется на тест?
Прекрасный тест, спасибо)
Алекс, как от значимой фигуры в ножевом сообществе и просто как от умного человека хотелось бы услышать твоё мнение о предметах EDC и о теме EDC в целом. Ну и узнать что ты носишь с собой :D
Even if the blade had broken at the last test ... She did well to the other tests. And it is worth remembering that it is a combat knife and not Bushcrafth.
Seen more USMC Kabar Fighting/Utility knifes broken than any knife in my life. Once seen three Kabars broken in less than ten minutes once, by throwing them at a tree. The steel in them looked much different than the steel on the knife here. All the older knives were rat-tail tang broken at guard juncture, steel was very grainy. Never bought another Kabar after that though I might one of the newer ones such as shown here in this demo. I am impressed in the upgrade quality in comparison to the old war ones.
And? Any updates.
Did you try a new Ka-bar and how did you like it .
Great review as always! I was wondering, in older videos (such as the eskabar test), you used to use a rubber mallet for batoning, and in recent videos, you've switched to a heavier steel hammer. Do you think using this hammer gives a different result in these tests? I wonder if the denting that occurs in the spine weakens the knife in a way that makes it seem weaker than it is? I could be wrong, just wondered what you thought. Thanks again! Can't wait to see a hard use test with INFI vs CPM 3V :)
There are 3 different categories of knives that I test (check in results spreadsheet). Large blades are hit by steel hammer.
***** ahhh,, I should have noticed. Thanks again,, I have said it before, but your tests are no doubt THE BEST and most thorough. Keep them coming!
rcb2000 Thanks ;)
It is gross abuse to use a metal hammer like that and got predictable results.
Brawo! To był prawdziwy test, a nie krojenie kartki papieru.
Nice video 👍
Жёсткий тест!
Жесткий тест надо сказать.. Сразу видно Русский тестировал)) Нош в наших руках должен уметь все)) Я ставлю +10 стойкости Кабара и +4 убойности молотка..) Обазательно приобрету себе Кабар !!
Great Knife!
I love hearing the whistle of the "blood groove " / blade for the first couple of strikes on the 2×4
Очень поучительный тест для владельцев этого ножа, теперь они точно знают, рамки дозволенного ) Сань, ты еще не созрел, чтоб подвергнуть Strider похожим истязаниям?
Судя по зерну что видно на сколе его перекалили(как по мне). Клинок имеет высокую твёрдость по шкале HRC из за чего он хрупкий. Вообще тест жесткий, так нагружать нож, впечатлило)) Классный обзор.
Now that’s a knife!
Takes an absolute nightmare of a beating before failing. Ha!
I appreciate this testing median
Well it held up better than I thought .
Entertaining.
The KA-BAR was tested and approved by far better men 75 years ago, it's certainly good enough for me. Put him in a 100 degree jungle against a fanatical enemy that never surrenders and I'll bet he wouldn't beat his knife, rifle or canteen with a hammer.
Супер тесты. 😆👏👏👏👏👏👏👍
Как жалко КаБар,хорошая вещь для леса)))...Спасибо за тест.
its a high carbon steel and it had some serious deform by the hammer and thats why it broke... the deformations messed with material crystalic structure and failed...
Огорчился я,конечно, впоряде.Реально нравился этот нож.Думал почему его до сих пор его небыло на тесте жесткого использования.Всегда сомневался,что кончик здесь выдержит,думал он,самое слабое место.А не могло повлиять то,что железом об железо бил.Я понимаю,что ты запарился резиновые молотки переводить,но все же...Если б хотя бы деревяшкой какой нибудь лупить,всеравно сломался бы?Как думаешь?
Александр, когда планируете поделиться своим мнением о работе с новой точилкой?
Awesome video, but in the Kabars defense, when out in the woods or camping you won't be using a mini sledge to baton, you'll more than likely be using another be of wood. Just my opinion. Thanks for the video.
piece of wood sorry
Nice box cutter! ^_^
ive seen your videos before. they are awesome. i live in canada and unfortunately dont speak russian. thankyou thankyou for the english subtitles. i wish jake ivenbach would do the same. im going to ask him to have a look at your channel.
Может быть все же нож сломался от воздействия металла по металлу(как версия)у меня сломался Бак худлум на тесте,но там выпил,ослабляющий конструкцию.Но в буклете с ножом было описано,что батонить надо ударяя по ножу обязательно деревянным поленом,что топором молотком нельзя.Может есть смысл в этом?И нож мне Бак поменял после просмотра видео.Все же от металла воздействие думаю сильно отличается.
Согласен что воздействие разное от дерева и металла, но для этого и есть эти тесты ;)
***** Когда мне было лет 14 и дед учил меня рубить дрова колуном(такой топор)то когда рубишь к примеру комель березовый и колун вошел глубоко но не разрубил есть 2 варианта,либо поднять и ударить обухом колун вместе с поленом о другое полено,либо если как у меня тогда сил не всегда хватало,ударить поленом по колуну.Когда я спросил,может стоит ударить лучше кувалдой,дед мне ответил что колун может лопнуть,и кувалдой НЕЛЬЗЯ.Я это запомнил на всю жизнь.Тест есть тест,понятно,но если бы не молотком бить,то наверное и результат был бы другим.Имхо.
Олег Мартишин Согласен с тобой Олег может он бы и не сломался. Но тут ещё нужно учитывать одну вещь. У твоего деда топор был провереный годами необходимый инструмент а здесь мы имеем дело с каким-то дядей который приходит и говорит - "ребята, вот этот нож самыйсупермегакрутотактик... легендарный меганож из суперстали и т.п." а это уже извините требует доказательств. В противном случае о чём весь этот пиар и реклама.
***** Так да,в любом случае +,делать тест и не бояться сломать нож,это я уважаю.
Олег Мартишин Спасибо за понимание ;)
id like to sue this man for abuseing american pride
I hope you are joking
F15E Strike Eagle no he’s not
Whhaaaattt the knife got beat up. *gasp. Didnt see that coming
Круто! :)))
CONGRETULATİON MAN THİS İS THE BEST KA BAR VİDEO
Hello Alex, are there any plans to do similar testing using something from Ontario Spec Plus Gen II line with 5160 steel for comparison?
hydra31 Maybe in future. Right now I don't have one in my possession.
I'm not surprised it broke after all that. You were wailing on it with a hardened forgers hammer, any other knife wouldn't even have lasted a fraction as long as this knife.
Any other knife? Are you sure? If you throw a Busse in the ring with a Kabar, the Kabar would be dust, while the Busse has a little Scratch.
+Spydercocaine I'm willing to bet the Kabar would win.
+Spydercocaine Are we talking about same size, weight and dimensions? Same steel as well?
No, YOU were not talking about size, weight, dimensions and steels. You just wrote "any other knife" and that is pretty wrong. Well, an INFI-Steel Busse in the same size, weight and dimensions will outperform the Kabar, many other Knifes in many different steels will do that as well, thats not a secret. The Kabar is still much bang for the buck and there is nothing wrong with that, just dont overhype the Kabar because its just a Kabar, i love mine, but i would not overstress it like shown in the video.
Now this is a knife test!
почти каждый раз нож налетает на бетон, прям тенденция складывается.
операторская работа тоже могла бы быть в этот раз качественней.
спасибо за тест, Алекс!
Excellent couteau 💪
Обух помялся, как будто сыромятина, а РК отлично держалась. как это понимать? Подумал про зонную закалку. Уважаемый Алекс развей мои сомнения.
как же я ждал хард-юза этой модели. Алекс, как думаешь может ли cold steel recon tanto гипотетически хорошо пройти это же тестирование, интересно твое мнение.
Will kbar replace it? Not sure how good of warranty they have
А какой молоток вы используете? Может быть потому нож сломался, что использовался обычный молоток?
I wanna see this with other knives, same brutality
Спасибо. Интересно и познавательно. Информация о слабом хвостовике у такого мощного ножа наглядно подтвердилась (Увы...). При рубке троса и экстремальном батонинге поперек волокон создалось впечатление, что на клинке зонная закалка )) Ну или дело в инструменте. Уважаемый vininull, вы всегда такую кувалду при тестировании используете, или специально припасли ее для легендарного Ка-Бара?
thanks for useing English subtitles I don't speak what I'm guessing is Russian great video.
I have to say, on this test - the kabar bit into the wood more than the majority resulting in achieving greater force on the blade when pulling, also, your pulling force was almost 90 degrees to the blade - which is more than ive seen you be able to do on other knives. It looked like you bent the blade about 45 degrees on the first pull lol. The tests arent uniform but they have helped me decide on folding knifes, thanks and keep up the good work. Great videos!!
It's pretty good
Alex, привет вопрос не в тему но мне просто интересно не изменил ли ты отношение к zt 0550, я на днях купил его, кстати из elmax, ser. 0766
Нет не изменил, это прекрасный нож.
Bonjour,ce test est disproportionné par rapport à l'utilisation normal de ce couteau de combat ?
Сразу захотелось купить ;))) Такого ещё нет ;))
Долго мечтал об этом ноже но так и не приобрёл, теперь смотрю на это и сердце кровью обливается.
What knife do you recommend for price and durability?
I like that the tests are harsh but they are too harsh to be practical.
Саша спасибо за видео .
Я хотел приобрести данную модель
Полагая что он надежен как скала
Придется рассмотреть варианты с
Cold steel со сталью vg1 san mai 3.
so good
Как ведет себя пластиковая рукоятка, следы от молотка остались?
ИЗВЕРГ!!! Но тест интересный. Спасибо -).
PS - как по мне, так очень зачётный клинок. Сомневаюс, что в реальной жизни его так пиперить будут...