I was never a fan of Ron, but I had a lot of respect for him. His intentions were good with getting the Honda deal, but he has to shoulder some of the blame for getting them to come in a year early. I'm not sure how much of the "Size Zero" concept was Ron's brainchild, but that effectively lost Honda 2 years. I honestly believe that Ron had lost sight of what a shit show the team had become under Whitmarsh in the years that he went off building P1s and whatnot. He was astute enough to realise that change was needed, but I doubt he had a grasp of what was going on the "shop floor". If you watch that Grand Prix driver documentary, it is so obvious. They couldn't even get a bloody bolt and nut size correct! The ousting of Ron was unfortunate, but I think he'd done his time. It should have been less acrimonious off course. Mclaren are now on the up, its taken this many years to clean up the mess left behind by Whitmarsh coupled with the decisions that followed under Ron. Love him or hate him, Zak Brown has done a very good job in restructuring the team. Under Andreas Seidl, they look like a tight organisation, no nonsense. Hopefully, with the Mercedes PU coming in, they can start fighting for podiums.
Ron signed a deal with honda based on not even a demo engine or a concept that could run and be tested on a car,but a dyno test of the egnine with 1 cylinder running.Can’t comprehend how someone like ron dennis could come to a decision based on that,but i guess partly the decision was driven by honda offering them free engines.
He probably thought it was mind blowing because they went for a size zero for their package , no one had a hybrid zero size. Hondas dynos as we know now were not given actual data vs real life track data. So Ron had good thoughta and intentions here shame it didnt work out
I wonder from which fairytale land did Ron get his assumptions about the new Honda engine without even seeing it run in anger. They should've kept their mouths shut about the competitiveness of the engine even if it was true, till the season started. That way they would've avoided the embarrasment of hyping up the engine & then not delivering it to their fans & drivers. Honda has typically taken a few years to come upto speed in their different forays into F1, this new phase looks like being no different. They're likely to continue being backmarkers in 2016. Maybe 2017 or 2018 will see McLaren Honda challenge for victories (championships may take longer)
I'm not disputing what you're saying cos Mika was damn good. But Mika was the only driver of the list you mentioned who remained loyal to McLaren til the end of his career. The others saw that Ron and McLaren couldn't sustain their promises to them and ultimately left. In Hamilton's, Prost's and maybe Senna's case, it was the right decision.
I was never a fan of Ron, but I had a lot of respect for him. His intentions were good with getting the Honda deal, but he has to shoulder some of the blame for getting them to come in a year early. I'm not sure how much of the "Size Zero" concept was Ron's brainchild, but that effectively lost Honda 2 years.
I honestly believe that Ron had lost sight of what a shit show the team had become under Whitmarsh in the years that he went off building P1s and whatnot. He was astute enough to realise that change was needed, but I doubt he had a grasp of what was going on the "shop floor". If you watch that Grand Prix driver documentary, it is so obvious. They couldn't even get a bloody bolt and nut size correct!
The ousting of Ron was unfortunate, but I think he'd done his time. It should have been less acrimonious off course. Mclaren are now on the up, its taken this many years to clean up the mess left behind by Whitmarsh coupled with the decisions that followed under Ron. Love him or hate him, Zak Brown has done a very good job in restructuring the team. Under Andreas Seidl, they look like a tight organisation, no nonsense. Hopefully, with the Mercedes PU coming in, they can start fighting for podiums.
Mclaren was right for requesting a a zero sized engine, because Honda finally got an engine that is smaller than what McLaren asked for.
Ron signed a deal with honda based on not even a demo engine or a concept that could run and be tested on a car,but a dyno test of the egnine with 1 cylinder running.Can’t comprehend how someone like ron dennis could come to a decision based on that,but i guess partly the decision was driven by honda offering them free engines.
fucking hell, he definitely got it spot on with honda's engine...
"It is just mind blowing"
He probably thought it was mind blowing because they went for a size zero for their package , no one had a hybrid zero size.
Hondas dynos as we know now were not given actual data vs real life track data.
So Ron had good thoughta and intentions here shame it didnt work out
I wonder from which fairytale land did Ron get his assumptions about the new Honda engine without even seeing it run in anger. They should've kept their mouths shut about the competitiveness of the engine even if it was true, till the season started. That way they would've avoided the embarrasment of hyping up the engine & then not delivering it to their fans & drivers. Honda has typically taken a few years to come upto speed in their different forays into F1, this new phase looks like being no different. They're likely to continue being backmarkers in 2016. Maybe 2017 or 2018 will see McLaren Honda challenge for victories (championships may take longer)
Honda's numbers on the dyno didn't correlate with the ones on track. Very common knowledge. Honda probably gave them inaccurate numbers as a result.
This did not age well.
@@lukefitzey2269 It did age well… he never said they will challenge for victories, he said “maybe” and just in 2019 Honda did win races anyway
A proper team boss
A piece of jewellery. He must have sold Alonso this garbage and he believed it.
Its gonna happen in future do he mean by fernando
3:46 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Fucking hilairious!!! LMFAO!!!
There you have it. From the boss. Mika was the GOAT. Not Senna, Not Prost, Not Alonso, Hamilton or any of them. Just the flying Finn. Says it all.
I'm not disputing what you're saying cos Mika was damn good. But Mika was the only driver of the list you mentioned who remained loyal to McLaren til the end of his career. The others saw that Ron and McLaren couldn't sustain their promises to them and ultimately left. In Hamilton's, Prost's and maybe Senna's case, it was the right decision.
@@Merc140497Ayrton would've won 2-3 championships with Williams had he not died. So ye. Right move.
Uncle Ron at his absolute best here. Hilarious watching this as a Ferrari fan.
I did not understand the last question Brundle ......... "which is the best pilot that McLaren had?"
+Paulo Vargas Mika Hakkinen
I guess he was drunk here
Mistakes were made..