Also Tayshia wasn't quite sincere. When Caelynn confronted her, she said: "Did I have any plans talking about you? No". But before her one-on-one with Colton she said: "Today I will tell him, what I think (about girls with the wrong intentions)". So she had those plans to tell him and now pretends it was all unexpected to her. That's kind of sly.
Worth noting that those "ITMs" where they recap things are often shot all at once after their one-on-one time with the lead. It's possible Tayshia said it before talking to Colton, but it's more likely to me that she was recapping things in her one-on-one with the producer interviewing her. The bits where she was talking to the camera looked like they were all shot at once.
Jared's comments are SO on point! (The gals have great thoughts too : ). I know the spoilers, and I won't reveal them here, but Jared's comment that Caelyn and Cassie had "better say yes" is SO applicable!
Yeah, he is very perspective. And he said a key point. Is colton looking for someone he loves or someone he wants to be engage with? Personally getting engage after 2 months and a few dates, is insane. Its impossible. So honestly, he needs to go looking for a girl he loves, and the engagement part i feel like nah. If u do that chances of u breaking up is really high. Colton might as well go for the girl he loves. And i know who he would choose. From predictions and observations, plus also reading a spoiler page. Its honestly obvious who he loves and who he like.
I didn’t want Colton to be the bachelor. I did like him. But I never got he was ready to be engaged back on Becca’s season. And this is just getting sad. 3 girls have left. He goes after girls who aren’t ready for anything serious really. And it could be bc he really needs time to learn about himself. I hope things workout. But I don’t see anything serious happening but I do believe this experience will help him learn about him and find the one when he’s truly ready.
He's so worried about whether the girls are ready for marriage, he forgot to check whether he's ready. I feel bad for him because he got a shit group of girls, but at the same time he hasn't handled any of the situations well at all. He's too inexperienced in love and life.
Jessie Rheman I agree 100% but maybe that’s what the producers want. Idk if they got the most ratings on the seasons with bad endings - Jason Brad and Arie.
I don't trust Tayshia because on the episode before this past one, when Onyeka and Nicole were arguing, Tayshia came right out and said that she heard their conversation; and Nicole didn't say what Onyeka said she had said. I couldn't understand why Tayshia wouldn't stick up for Nicole, seeing how upset she was. Nicole was trying to defend herself. Tayshia could have stood up for her and defended her. Instead, she kept her mouth shut and let Onyeka "crap all over" Nicole. Nope, she is full of it. I also didn't like her throwing the other girls under the bus to Colton. She needs to go, and she should NOT be the next bachelorette.
taysha only wants to win, she's a fake and she thinks this is just a winning game show and isn't about the marriage love seriosness purpose of this experience
How did you not bring up that Colton stressed that it would be wrong for a girl to introduce him to her parents if she wasn't completely certain she was ready...RIGHT AFTER doing the polar opposite to Heather B?
After last night's episode I agree that it seems like she has a chance because of her editing but I still hope its not Hannah B. She just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Nothing against her, I just keep on going back to her first one on one. It seems like she doesn't have very good conversational skills right off the bat and that is ESSENTIAL if you're the bachelor/bachelorette, also she's funny and happy, but that's all we see. She doesn't open up. It doesn't seem like there's much depth. If she was the bachelorette it would propbably be a very boring season in my opinion
@@petraorloff6505 I think a Hannah B season would be way more interesting than a Caelynn or Hannah G season. At least she has a personality that we've seen.
Jared is totally the full package. His mind is beautiful so succinct so thoughtful and super bright. You can see Ashley is totally like how does your beautiful mind know all this??
Heather withdrew because after Colton said they better be certain they're ready for an engagement, and she was all, "I THINK it might be best if I at least kiss one more boy before deciding to spend the rest of my life with someone..."
I agree with Ashley and Jared. I can see how some people are mad that Kirpa and Tayshia said something about the two girls, but Tayshia was asked by Colton who had bad intentions, so that’s why she ended up talking about it. Cassie and Caelynn were super defensive, especially in their confessionals, and they were worried way before Tayshia and Kirpa said anything to Colton; their conversation in the bedroom said a lot because they were concerned that the other women would say things about them. I personally didn’t like how Caelynn responded to the situation. I think calling out someone’s age and claiming they have insecurities and also using expletives to describe a woman makes her in the wrong. Also, Cassie calling Kirpa an idiot? I do find it interesting that multiple contestants have brought up Caelynn as disingenuous, even Hannah B in the beginning of the show, of people who shouldn’t be trusted, yet Colton hasn’t listened. I can definitely say though that Cassie is not ready to be engaged (not saying this because of her age). And I’m sure she’s going to easily prove this to us by her actions in the future on the show. But obviously Heather isn’t ready, but at least she knows that she’s actually not ready to get married. Haha. I honestly think Kirpa knew she wasn’t going to get chosen for hometowns or wouldn’t make it to the final 4, so she didn’t really care, but honestly Kirpa was not lying. I think she honestly cares for Colton so she genuinely wanted him to have the information she heard. I mean also Cassie didn’t really indicate that she’s ready for marriage and engagement in her convo, she did say she was here for Colton though. I think it was weird that Caelynn went to go talk to Colton, but that makes me think she actually wants the Bachelorette role, and wants Cassie to be with Colton. Because friendship aside, if Caelynn really wanted to win and be with Colton in the end herself she wouldn’t have interfered with the other women.
Batool Esk Okay. Sure. But she didn’t bring it up on the date. Colton did it and wanted to know her feelings about the situation and who he thought they were talking about. So ultimately, it’s Colton’s fault for bringing other women into his insecurities and being nosy. He should’ve asked the women who left the show who they were referring to.
It's not a twist that Colton isn't ready, he literally told Elyse he doesn't know what he wants. I think Ashley is right, he does seem to push away the girls who want to get married. Colton did ask Kirpa, but it felt like she tried to lead the conversation there, whereas with Tayshia he just strait up asked.
For the Bachelorette I think if they wanted to go with one of the younger girls I think it would be Hannah B even though she's not top 4 she was ready for marriage and had a graceful exit. If they wanted someone older I think it would be Tayshia since she also seems ready for marriage. If it's not either of them then I think they would pick someone from a different season because there's no one that really stands out and there's no one that you 're really rooting for like the way we were with like Becca and Jojo.
Alyssa Wehr Tayshia is messy as well. She had a boyfriend up until she left for the show Elyse, Katie, or Sidney would be better choices along with Hannah
From season previews, we see Hannah B. in a black dress going into a hotel room with Colton. Since this has yet to happen, I think Hannah B. comes back and tells Colton something that leads to him jumping the fence.
Sadi Perez wooow crazy, I wonder if that’s what has to do with Colton saying to Hannah G “I don’t want to be anyone back up plan” and then Hannah crying and looks like she’s crying in a car
Caelyn and Cassie both react like little girls. They both got way too defensive and over dramatic for being “innocent”. I think both of them are there for the wrong reasons.
Yes, but it’s never been done before for the Bachelorette. Also the top 4 girls from the past 3 bachelor seasons are either engaged, married, pregnant or in a relationship so highly unlikely
@@lcaban95 I haven't looked up or thought about who are the top 4 girls from past bachelor seasons. Who are the top 4? Even though it hasn't been done for the Bachelorette, Chris Harrrison said they like to change things up, so I'm holding out hope they will do so Lol but probably it will be someone from this season. I like a few of them but I don't think I'd really want to see any of the remaining women as bachelorette.
I felt like Caitlyn was caught off guard when Colten confronted her after the snowboarding. She was much better able to defend herself later that date at dinner. I don't think that is a reason to believe she is not genuine. I can imagine all girls in the house think about the possibility to become the bachelorette, they know only one of them is going to be there in the end so it would be ignorant to do otherwise. Of course, it is not cool to lead Colton on, but I feel like this alleged conversation is being blown up way out of proportion. It seemed like Tayshia and especially Kirpa were basing their comments on their interpretation of Cassie's and Caitlyn's behaviour with no real basis behind it. Especially from Kirpa it seemed like a desperate move to stay on the show as it was clear that she was the one left with the least connection with Colton. I'm not sure on Cassie's intentions when going on the show but she and Colten seem to have a real connection now.
I have been saying caelynn was fake since day one, she is a pageant queen and thats her job. Cassie i can tell was going to be another Lauren bushnell. I also liked Hannah B since day one also.!!
@@Jaykayhay97 but hannah b is not being fake about it, shes not talking about other girls liek caelynn is , caeylnn said Hannah g has gone by life with just her looks.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with what the girls are like since I don't know them in person...but your basis of Caelynn being fake just because she's a pageant queen & "that's her job" becomes invalid once you said you liked Hannah B. is all I'm saying.
Ashley give your man your signature glow, he reminds me of home ,I’m from Fairhaven,Ma, now in Figueira da Foz, Portugal j/k you’re are beautiful couple and have always been on your team ! You showed the world will and perseverance pays off. 💕🌴
I think nobody from this season should be the next Bachelorette: they're either too young or without the personality to do it. I think it should be someone from a previous Bachelor/BiP season. For instance, Ashley would be an amazing choice if she wasn't engaged to Jared.
If she stayed longer, maybe, but she exited too soon and in such a messy way. Looks and age wise she could be a great choice but we didn't get to see too much of her personality and her departure ended in a strange note.
The only one from this season that I could possibly be here for as the next Bachelorette is Hannah B, because I think she's more relatable to the show's audience as someone who, although beautiful, is awkward, raw and let her insecurities get to her, but somehow embraces her imperfections instead of being ashamed of them.
So Caelynn and Cassie are good looking and they remind you of the popular girls that you went to high school with and therefore they aren’t ready? Until they show some evidence you are just reaching! 🤷♀️
wt30001 I think those women just knew who he has his eye on more & they just don’t wanna be embarrassed on live tv so they took the initiative to leave first
I don't believe Caelynn, I think Cassie isn't ready, but I feel she is the best match for him. Through the episode I did see how Tae could also be a good match too, and I love Hanna G's family. I think the reason why Cassie reacted that way is she had been ignited by caelynn, I feel Caelynn is the true instigater.
The girls that left didn’t dump him. They all had different legit reason. They didn’t leave because they weren’t into him. The interviewer is so annoying. Elyse left because the format of the show wasn’t working for her. Sydney left because Colton didn’t give her enough. Heather had a good reason she knew “she wasn’t ready for him to meet her family. There was no way she was making it to hometowns she knew it.
Rhe thing about this interviewer is, she's loud and out there but she says what we're all thinking. She's honest and provides new perspectives and conversation starters. She 's a good analyzer and she's kind of growing on me.
@@MusicIsLove2011 I think you're right. Honestly apart from this episode she has hardly had any screen time for ppl to be fangirling to the extent they are now.
Cassie proves it’s true in the end but Colton is smitten. I think Taesyia and Colton were cute. They laughed, had fun, were mature, cute together, etc..
I feel like the bachelor used to be about people who have tried in love and it just didn't work out. They were given this chance to meet other people and find a Forever Love. But now it's just hot 20-somethings who have never dated before and don't know what they want or who they are.
Why is everyone so against Cassie and caeylnn if they said something I think they weren’t serious about it jeez and we are talking about “fakeness” how bout tayshia leaving her boyfriend days before filming tayshia made me mad last night
In a previous episode, I so admired Tayshia's kindness and support of Nicole by confirming she had heard her conversation with Onyeka, yet I was very disappointed by Tayshia's not following through by sticking up for Nicole to Colton.
NO!!!! it was taken out of context. and Cassie called it.... desperation spilling out. Kirpa wasn't even in the running. i am team Cassie all the way!!!
FINALLY you guys fixed the sound! (who the heck is doing the sound on this, a 5 year old?), finally all 3 on stage have similar mics and have similar sound levels.
Thank you to Trisha for saying something positive about Arie. Trisha did way better than other past interviews. I'll give her that. Hope Colton does find his true love.🌹🌷
Do you guys not see how EVERY time someone tattles, they leave? I believe Cassie and Caelynn way more! They're living their lives and not throwing anyone under the bus. Tayshia and Kirpa are tattlers.
Emily Rose Anderson if you know the signs of lying you would know caelynn and Cassie were flat out doing that, they couldn’t even look him in the eyes, and started name calling as soon as they were in the interviews, it’s not hard to believe they’re Instagram models who are young and Cassie was in reality show before this lol
Ok my opinion. Bachelor's always pick the girl they probably couldn't get a date with in real life. Bacherette woman nail it most of the time. As woman they listen to what is being told to them. The men are like that's troubling but Oh well. I hear he picks Cassie and I don't think she in it for a husband. I hope I'm wrong cause I do like him. I guess we will see. Love you Ashley & Jared, can't wait for your marriage and HAPPY you not doing it on TV. It's your day♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Colton is the worst batchelor. He is totally a *it's me not you* guy but that's because he still doesn't know who he is yet. He's not fully grown emotionally that's why he likes the drama. It's a distraction to drown out the doubt in his mind that's he not ready.
The whole thing where Tayshia whispered at Kirpa at the end of the last episode that it would be the two of them at the end of this is so shady to me. I think that Tayshia is a lying bitch trying to throw the two front runners under the bus, and Kirpa is just the little sheep blindly following Tayshia. I can't stand either of them. I'm so happy Kirpa went home. Tayshia next, I hope.
Women leaving, women not ready for proposal.... it's a reflection of horrible screening / casting by producers. Making choices based on drama and conflict, rather than trying to find a genuine compatible bachelorette; it's just sad and disappointing.
I don't think any of the remaining girls from this season would make a good bachelorette. My vote is for Annaliese from BIP season 5. She kind of got screwed by the ending of that.
I remember saying I wouldn't watch the one with Ari, but then I did. This one, not tempted in the slightest to watch it. Hoping they have a much better lead next time. I'm just here for Ashley and Jared, lol.
She said "us two". She said it to Kirpa but I think she meant herself and whoever they thought the fake person is (Cassie I'm assuming). They knew Kirpa wasn't staying until the end.
So this took a lot of investigating and what I've come up with is: Kirpa and Tayshia are snakes slithering through the grass quietly. I just watched this weeks episode while they're back in Colton's hometown and IT SAID IT ALL. Kirpa and Tayshia planned to take out two powerful women in the house. Tayshia whispered to Kirpa "watch, it's going to be me and you in the end". I didn't really pay much attention to that because duh, they want to be the last ones in the end. There's no denying what Tayshia feels for Colton, she has deep feelings for him but the way she is trying to take out the women by spreading lies and what she "thinks she heard" to Colton and what her "opinion" is to the rest of the women is alarming. Also, Tayshia never spoke up when Oneyka spread the rumor about Nicole, even after telling the rest of the women she was there for that convo and said Nicole never said any of that. That speaks VOLUMES. Tayshia is going after Caelyn and Kirpa is going after Cassie. Caelyn spoke up for Cassie because they are true friends, that also speaks volumes. Ugh disgusting behavior, but wow am I impressed they had the balls to hatch that plan. Scary.
I heard that comment by Tayshia to Kirpa and was immediately suspicious. No one else has mentioned it. I'm surprised neither Jared nor Ashley did. Tayshia and Kirpa seem to be scheming and spreading hearsay. I, like Ashley, want Colton to be happy.
Two friends that are their for one man very sketchy, if they don't have a plan they wouldn't be that close ,the plan is bonding them together. Taysia was asked by colton in this episode but not in Nicole and onyeka's case so I don't see why she should. You people are just so defensive and so quick to absurd like your favourites.
Finally! Someone who sees it clearly! I agree with you! They are jealous snakes and they know he will choose Cassie so they are trying to take her down!
@@chelseaclark-martin6357 okay okay, I come with my tail tucked in between my legs. Kirpa and Tayshia were right, but I didn't like the way it was being brought up.
If Colton doesn't choose Hanna G, then she'd be one good contestant for the bachelorette. +Others 1. Elyse 2. Hanna B 3. Kirpa could be interesting to watch 4. Taiysha I would even watch Who definetly I would not watch are Cassie and Caeylin. Definetly not Caeylin. She's just two faced, only good when things are looking good for her, too much of a fake put on front of a goody girl. Cassie, though likeable but too many tv shows.
Ok y’all I got married at 19 & we have been married still going strong we will be celebrating our 19th wedding anniversary on 3/25!! So it is about maturity at their age. When you go through a lot growing up I knew what I wanted! & wasn’t going to settle for less! & I was blessed!🧡🦋🙏🌺🧡
I like Hannah B for bachelorette. The way she left and said “I will not allow myself to not feel chosen every single day & I will wait till whenever that is” it was pretty awesome 👏 and he has like the best weirdest screen moments and have a show based on her there will be more of that. She also left graceful no drama around her she was in love and Colton really was rude for taking her home to his family.
Good lord....23 is too young to be bachelorette? I was 23 and gave birth to my 3rd & 4th babies(twins)....But, then again that was 1982. People seem to get married much, much later these days. I wonder why Colton at the age of 25 is considered more mature than these 23yr old women? Really?
Right! I had my second and last child at 22 and having been married now for 21 years I’m pretty sure I wasn’t too young. I feel bad for the fertility struggles of women who feel like you shouldn’t even be serious about marriage before 30. I’m going to be 40 this year and my youngest is graduating from high school and turning 18. That’s amazing. We are friends and we can relate to each other. Super glad I’m not 50-60 when my kids are graduating which is the new norm. I’m not bashing older moms. I’m just saying the acting like getting married and having kids young is a pretty biologically normal idea and treating young women as if they’re children until 25 is strange.
Fertility struggles after 30? My mom always told me that people change so much in their 20's. She had kids at 37 and 39 with no issues. If someone is not mature enough to marry before 30, they should wait. Everyone is different. Maybe, just maybe, people just don't want kids as much today, at all. Look at what's happening with the environment. And, millennials are crushed by debt. I wouldn't think of bringing a kid into the world when I'm this much in debt. Nice to graduate at the height of the recession when there were little jobs in my field. So don't judge what you don't know.
violethill37 it’s not judgement of older mothers it’s just pointing out the absurdity of the constant judgement of younger mothers. That’s great that your mom had kids with no struggle in her late 30’s. That’s not the norm. Fertility peaks for women between 22-27. Then it declines slowly until around 35 and very sharply after that. At 39 a woman has a 5% chance of getting pregnant in any given cycle with no intervention. The biological reality that our bodies are most able to get pregnant and give birth in our early to mid twenties is not an opinion. Waiting to have children until you’re in your thirties is absolutely something you should do if you’re uncertain about having children. But acting as if it’s what people “should” do is wrong biologically. Just as wrong as if I said women “should” have babies then and ignore if they are personally ready. I think everyone should do what’s right for them without looking to society to tell them what is too old or too young. I had babies young. I’m happy with that decision. I have been infertile since my early 30’s because of adenomyosis and endometriosis and finally just had a hysterectomy at 39. If I had waited I wouldn’t have been able to have biological children. Which is fine, if I wasn’t ready I could have had no children or adopted, but if I had let other people tell me I shouldn’t be getting married or having kids because I was too young that would have been the consequence. I have friends who are both older and younger mothers. I support them all. Convincing the younger generation to be children until they’re 30 and then think about motherhood isn’t a biologically sound idea. I’m just pointing out that reality. Not advocating that anyone do what they aren’t ready for.
@@jenniferford2067 if you look at fertility charts, visually, the "sharp" decline you reference is more like after age 39. there is a "steady" decline happening starting from early 20's. and the idea that people who don't have kids before 30 are still "children"? Come on... what would you say people who never have kids are- forever children? At 22 or 23 how many people have lived on their own, completely independent for more than a few years? How many people at 22, just out of college if they went, have a well-established career or the immediate potential for it, even if they have a spouse, so that if something were to happen to their spouse, they would still be able to support a child, let alone themselves. That is the fear my aunt always had for my cousin, who married young. There are also more small "life stages" than you may realize, psychologically speaking, that are starting to be talked about, and I would argue that these psychological reasons for finding the optimal time to procreate are just as important, if not more so, than biological. Yes, you were an adult, but you were a YOUNG adult. And I haven't even talked about men- the male brain doesn't even fully form until, what is it- 25? 26? Sorry to ramble, but these are also points worth thinking about.
I just want this season to end already. So boring, doesn’t seem to be any real love story happening. Just ugh! It’s like one big, long, boring Instagram post.
I feel like this season is going to be a big downer at the end. Colton strikes me as a Boy-Man who can't figure himself out and needs assurance from the girls that they're Ready and all the while he's not really sure himself. I think I know why Cassie bolts as the spoilers hint....she sees that he's indecisive and that scared her....can't blame her....that's my take and I think that's why there's no ring in the box in the promo with him at the end. Honestly, I wasn't happy about him being the bachelor in the first place....what's next? A secret Trans? (I'd like to see that!) Wouldn't surprise me.
Aww no it makes me sad though for people to make these types of assumptions, I love Jared and Ashley and usually all there takes on the episodes but I disagree with the Caelynn and Cassie thing. Its funny because I actually felt more of a fake vibe from Tayashia and Kirpa and feel like Caelynn and Cassie seem really genuine! Also If you actually look at the show Cassie did before the bachelor it was filmed a couple years ago but the first season was AIRED more recently, and they do that for strategic purposes knowing they will get more watchers with it coming out closer to the bachelor airing. You can even tell in the episodes of that show she previously did, she’s much younger in it! Also no it’s not for fetched to think maybe 23 years olds wouldn’t be ready for marriage but honestly everybody is gonna have a different belief on that depending on the experience they have personally lived. I know a lot of people who have been ready to settle down at that young of an age. Does that mean they won’t have growing to do? No! They will, but I wouldn’t go so far to say people that young wouldn’t be ready. Goodness, Jo Jo was 24 or 25 as the bachelorette! Anyways, I kinda think the girls thought Katie meant something and then looked way to much into it and assumed Cassie and Caelynn with whatever their own “opinions” were but that doesn’t make it facts and shouldn’t have been addressed to Colton in a “this is what they said” way, if Tayashia even told Cassie it was just her opinion! Lol long rant 😂
Oh, please. Why would suddenly almost all Bachelor alums start hating on Cassie?! Like Jordan, and now Jared and Ashley. I'm disappointed, though they might already have some inside scoop and that's why they're hating on her. C'mon. Every time I hear Katy I'm like who?! Trusting on Kirpa and Taisha or whatever her name is, is not a reliable source. It's pretty obvious that they're just jealous because they can't compete and they feel that Cassie and Cailyn are front runners, that's why they're trying to sabotage them, like c'mon the one he had his most deepest conversation in the show and the one he supposedly chooses... Ya'll lost your damn minds. Bye, Felicia... Or should I say Tashia and Kirpa ✌🏻 deuces.
Cassie was there to fall in love and get engaged. She makes that clear in her preview. She couldn’t possibly have known how she would feel after only one date with Colton.
For those who say Cassie and Caelynn are shady, like of course they get shady when people go and talk shit about them! I’d be pissed if someone said something negative to the person I like without a genuine reason. They might’ve just had a conversation about readiness which I’m sure every other girl would think that! They never said a bad thing about anyone to him ever And also why would Taysha say that I know it will be us two at the end to Kirpa? Maybe she had plans
Colton isn't ready to be married either. Why are y'all so down on Cassie and Caelynn for maybe not being ready either. Also, this show never works anyway. I think at this point Colton should just go with whoever he likes the most rather than going on and on about whether they're ready or not.
Hannah G is the most genuine one. I wish he would choose her. I think in the long run they would be better matched than anyone else. If not, I'd love to see her be the bachelorette. I think she would be more outgoing if she was the lead.
Your fiance's right, Ashley. Kirpa wasn't asked about it. Like Jared said, she kept saying "if Colton asks me." However, as soon as Colton said anything about it BUT didn't ask her about it, she was ready to say her opinion and did so. Colton asked her if she had heard or seen anything [directly] or did it come from Katie, but that was only after Kirpa already told Colton her opinion and named people.
I think Chris Harrison tells him that he needs to propose and he doesn't feel ready for it. I think that's what causes him to take off and jump the fence.
Also Tayshia wasn't quite sincere. When Caelynn confronted her, she said: "Did I have any plans talking about you? No". But before her one-on-one with Colton she said: "Today I will tell him, what I think (about girls with the wrong intentions)". So she had those plans to tell him and now pretends it was all unexpected to her. That's kind of sly.
If taysia is not telling her anything its because she doesn't want to involve any other person,she is just been careful.
Right .. Tayshia is two faced plus if anybody is fake or not here for the right reasons it’s her .. 🐸☕️
Worth noting that those "ITMs" where they recap things are often shot all at once after their one-on-one time with the lead. It's possible Tayshia said it before talking to Colton, but it's more likely to me that she was recapping things in her one-on-one with the producer interviewing her. The bits where she was talking to the camera looked like they were all shot at once.
Jared's comments are SO on point! (The gals have great thoughts too : ). I know the spoilers, and I won't reveal them here, but Jared's comment that Caelyn and Cassie had "better say yes" is SO applicable!
ooh so i assume he proposes to cassie and she says no
Jared is like the best analyst.
Yeah, he is very perspective. And he said a key point. Is colton looking for someone he loves or someone he wants to be engage with? Personally getting engage after 2 months and a few dates, is insane. Its impossible. So honestly, he needs to go looking for a girl he loves, and the engagement part i feel like nah. If u do that chances of u breaking up is really high. Colton might as well go for the girl he loves. And i know who he would choose. From predictions and observations, plus also reading a spoiler page. Its honestly obvious who he loves and who he like.
And how she said “I better get a rose” that rubbed me the wrong way.
Not a worry about him but rather the Rose.
Did anyone else notice that there was a scene in the teaser with Hannah b with a black crop top and jeans but it wasn’t shown and now she’s gone 🧐
Tyson’s Mom She comes back in a later episode.
Tyson’s Mom my guess is that she might come back to try to get a second chance or to tell him something
Tyson’s Mom confused 🤷🏼♂️
I heard that she comes to Colton’s hotel when he is in Alabama for the other Hannah’s hometown visit!
I didn’t want Colton to be the bachelor. I did like him. But I never got he was ready to be engaged back on Becca’s season. And this is just getting sad. 3 girls have left. He goes after girls who aren’t ready for anything serious really. And it could be bc he really needs time to learn about himself. I hope things workout. But I don’t see anything serious happening but I do believe this experience will help him learn about him and find the one when he’s truly ready.
He's so worried about whether the girls are ready for marriage, he forgot to check whether he's ready. I feel bad for him because he got a shit group of girls, but at the same time he hasn't handled any of the situations well at all. He's too inexperienced in love and life.
Jessie Rheman I agree 100% but maybe that’s what the producers want. Idk if they got the most ratings on the seasons with bad endings - Jason Brad and Arie.
Thank you! Exactly how I feel
I don't trust Tayshia because on the episode before this past one, when Onyeka and Nicole were arguing, Tayshia came right out and said that she heard their conversation; and Nicole didn't say what Onyeka said she had said. I couldn't understand why Tayshia wouldn't stick up for Nicole, seeing how upset she was. Nicole was trying to defend herself. Tayshia could have stood up for her and defended her. Instead, she kept her mouth shut and let Onyeka "crap all over" Nicole. Nope, she is full of it. I also didn't like her throwing the other girls under the bus to Colton. She needs to go, and she should NOT be the next bachelorette.
YES EXACTLYYYYY i was thiinking the same thing , i didnt trust tayesh since the nicole incident
Karen Manning Nicole is a grown woman she shouldn’t need someone else to stick up for her like that, she needed to go when she did
taysha only wants to win, she's a fake and she thinks this is just a winning game show and isn't about the marriage love seriosness purpose of this experience
How did you not bring up that Colton stressed that it would be wrong for a girl to introduce him to her parents if she wasn't completely certain she was ready...RIGHT AFTER doing the polar opposite to Heather B?
K Jamie 🤷♀️
K Jamie 🤨.....u mean Hannah b?
I would like Hannah B as bachelorette. She seemed the most real out of all the girls.
Me too shes very pretty
After last night's episode I agree that it seems like she has a chance because of her editing but I still hope its not Hannah B. She just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Nothing against her, I just keep on going back to her first one on one. It seems like she doesn't have very good conversational skills right off the bat and that is ESSENTIAL if you're the bachelor/bachelorette, also she's funny and happy, but that's all we see. She doesn't open up. It doesn't seem like there's much depth. If she was the bachelorette it would propbably be a very boring season in my opinion
Me too
@@petraorloff6505 I think a Hannah B season would be way more interesting than a Caelynn or Hannah G season. At least she has a personality that we've seen.
But she threw Caelynn under the bus and then acted like it wasn't her doing.
Jared is totally the full package. His mind is beautiful so succinct so thoughtful and super bright. You can see Ashley is totally like how does your beautiful mind know all this??
Heather withdrew because after Colton said they better be certain they're ready for an engagement, and she was all, "I THINK it might be best if I at least kiss one more boy before deciding to spend the rest of my life with someone..."
I agree with Ashley and Jared. I can see how some people are mad that Kirpa and Tayshia said something about the two girls, but Tayshia was asked by Colton who had bad intentions, so that’s why she ended up talking about it. Cassie and Caelynn were super defensive, especially in their confessionals, and they were worried way before Tayshia and Kirpa said anything to Colton; their conversation in the bedroom said a lot because they were concerned that the other women would say things about them. I personally didn’t like how Caelynn responded to the situation. I think calling out someone’s age and claiming they have insecurities and also using expletives to describe a woman makes her in the wrong. Also, Cassie calling Kirpa an idiot? I do find it interesting that multiple contestants have brought up Caelynn as disingenuous, even Hannah B in the beginning of the show, of people who shouldn’t be trusted, yet Colton hasn’t listened. I can definitely say though that Cassie is not ready to be engaged (not saying this because of her age). And I’m sure she’s going to easily prove this to us by her actions in the future on the show. But obviously Heather isn’t ready, but at least she knows that she’s actually not ready to get married. Haha. I honestly think Kirpa knew she wasn’t going to get chosen for hometowns or wouldn’t make it to the final 4, so she didn’t really care, but honestly Kirpa was not lying. I think she honestly cares for Colton so she genuinely wanted him to have the information she heard. I mean also Cassie didn’t really indicate that she’s ready for marriage and engagement in her convo, she did say she was here for Colton though.
I think it was weird that Caelynn went to go talk to Colton, but that makes me think she actually wants the Bachelorette role, and wants Cassie to be with Colton. Because friendship aside, if Caelynn really wanted to win and be with Colton in the end herself she wouldn’t have interfered with the other women.
tayesha said before the date started that she will tell colton , but it worked in her favor that he asked her
Batool Esk Okay. Sure. But she didn’t bring it up on the date. Colton did it and wanted to know her feelings about the situation and who he thought they were talking about. So ultimately, it’s Colton’s fault for bringing other women into his insecurities and being nosy. He should’ve asked the women who left the show who they were referring to.
Colton tweeted that he asked Caelynn and Cassie who had bad intentions too. But that was conveniently edited out
@@emilyestes14 oh really !! thats interesting
I absolutely i do not believe he is with anyone.
I wish we could throw away all of last night’s episode. It caused me so much stress lol
It was very bad and uninteresting
It's not a twist that Colton isn't ready, he literally told Elyse he doesn't know what he wants. I think Ashley is right, he does seem to push away the girls who want to get married. Colton did ask Kirpa, but it felt like she tried to lead the conversation there, whereas with Tayshia he just strait up asked.
For the Bachelorette I think if they wanted to go with one of the younger girls I think it would be Hannah B even though she's not top 4 she was ready for marriage and had a graceful exit. If they wanted someone older I think it would be Tayshia since she also seems ready for marriage. If it's not either of them then I think they would pick someone from a different season because there's no one that really stands out and there's no one that you 're really rooting for like the way we were with like Becca and Jojo.
Alyssa Wehr Tayshia is messy as well. She had a boyfriend up until she left for the show Elyse, Katie, or Sidney would be better choices along with Hannah
From season previews, we see Hannah B. in a black dress going into a hotel room with Colton. Since this has yet to happen, I think Hannah B. comes back and tells Colton something that leads to him jumping the fence.
Michael S oooo interesting
Or maybe it was a little footage from a previous week and the only showed it in the promo to confuse people
it doesnt involve the fence jump but she does visit him when he goes to Hannah G hometown date
Sadi Perez wooow crazy, I wonder if that’s what has to do with Colton saying to Hannah G “I don’t want to be anyone back up plan” and then Hannah crying and looks like she’s crying in a car
@@Absgail1 no it has nothing to do with that. I believe Hannah B goes after he's done with Hannah G date
Is it just me or does that interviewer always seem like she’s bitter about something?
actually this episode she is suprisingly quiet and optimistic for her usual behaviour hahha
luce0103 right? I bet she bit her tongue a bunch of times cuz of all the hate comments saying she should get fired lol
@@wideyedchick yuuuup, and im glad she finally read comments
It's YoU. Thanks for asking.
Caelyn and Cassie both react like little girls. They both got way too defensive and over dramatic for being “innocent”. I think both of them are there for the wrong reasons.
Because they are little girls. Come on, they are 23, for God's sake :)
Cassie & Caelynn = CONNIVING
RESET Round 2 for Colton
Give him another season with new group of ladies
Caelynn completely flipped... she's not so prim and proper.
Diana Martiniuc-cameron maybe this is what Hannah Alabama was always taking about... how she’s so “fake”
Aren't both Hannah's from Alabama ?
I think the rap Hannah is ready, and should be bachelorette , she is adorable !
Hannah B for bachelorette!! She's real, funny and awkward. And she's gotten a much better edit recently.
She can’t even reply to a basic question with a full sentence....
lovelysentiments I’m sorry but no
I love her but not sure she's lead material
If the fence jump is in a future episode, how come Hannah B is seen reacting to it if she has already left?
YESS
KATIE! WE NEED ANSWERS! LOL
Can they pull a bachelorette from another season?
Yes. They pulled bachelors from other seasons.
Yes, but it’s never been done before for the Bachelorette. Also the top 4 girls from the past 3 bachelor seasons are either engaged, married, pregnant or in a relationship so highly unlikely
It has been done for a bachelorette.... they did it for Emily’s season. And they pulled arie. So I could see them doing it again
@@lcaban95 I haven't looked up or thought about who are the top 4 girls from past bachelor seasons. Who are the top 4? Even though it hasn't been done for the Bachelorette, Chris Harrrison said they like to change things up, so I'm holding out hope they will do so Lol but probably it will be someone from this season. I like a few of them but I don't think I'd really want to see any of the remaining women as bachelorette.
I forgot about Emily's season.
Hannah B would be a super bachelorette. in many ways, she’d be a female version of Sean Lowe. Hannah B, Bachelorette.
I felt like Caitlyn was caught off guard when Colten confronted her after the snowboarding. She was much better able to defend herself later that date at dinner. I don't think that is a reason to believe she is not genuine. I can imagine all girls in the house think about the possibility to become the bachelorette, they know only one of them is going to be there in the end so it would be ignorant to do otherwise. Of course, it is not cool to lead Colton on, but I feel like this alleged conversation is being blown up way out of proportion. It seemed like Tayshia and especially Kirpa were basing their comments on their interpretation of Cassie's and Caitlyn's behaviour with no real basis behind it. Especially from Kirpa it seemed like a desperate move to stay on the show as it was clear that she was the one left with the least connection with Colton. I'm not sure on Cassie's intentions when going on the show but she and Colten seem to have a real connection now.
Jared is so right and that’s exactly what’s gonna happen. Cassie will turn down his proposal 😂
I have been saying caelynn was fake since day one, she is a pageant queen and thats her job. Cassie i can tell was going to be another Lauren bushnell.
I also liked Hannah B since day one also.!!
Ummm, Hannah B is also a pageant queen so your assessment of Caelynn is quite unfair 🙄
It almost sounds like you have something personal against her.
@@Jaykayhay97 but hannah b is not being fake about it, shes not talking about other girls liek caelynn is , caeylnn said Hannah g has gone by life with just her looks.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with what the girls are like since I don't know them in person...but your basis of Caelynn being fake just because she's a pageant queen & "that's her job" becomes invalid once you said you liked Hannah B. is all I'm saying.
Ashley give your man your signature glow, he reminds me of home ,I’m from Fairhaven,Ma, now in Figueira da Foz, Portugal j/k you’re are beautiful couple and have always been on your team ! You showed the world will and perseverance pays off. 💕🌴
I think nobody from this season should be the next Bachelorette: they're either too young or without the personality to do it. I think it should be someone from a previous Bachelor/BiP season. For instance, Ashley would be an amazing choice if she wasn't engaged to Jared.
Paulo Neto What about Elyse?
If she stayed longer, maybe, but she exited too soon and in such a messy way. Looks and age wise she could be a great choice but we didn't get to see too much of her personality and her departure ended in a strange note.
The only one from this season that I could possibly be here for as the next Bachelorette is Hannah B, because I think she's more relatable to the show's audience as someone who, although beautiful, is awkward, raw and let her insecurities get to her, but somehow embraces her imperfections instead of being ashamed of them.
Agreed. I'd like for them to find an alumna from past seasons or just find someone new who's unaffiliated.
becca tilley
So Caelynn and Cassie are good looking and they remind you of the popular girls that you went to high school with and therefore they aren’t ready? Until they show some evidence you are just reaching! 🤷♀️
I vote Kristina Schulman from Nick's season for bachelorette
omg nice pick, but i feel like she's been just living her life on social media these days like can't these people have real jobs anymore??
Have you ever seen so many women leaving on their on. So Colton must not be interest
wt30001 I think those women just knew who he has his eye on more & they just don’t wanna be embarrassed on live tv so they took the initiative to leave first
I think that they all saw how into Cassie and caelynn he is. So they didn’t want to waste their time or be embarrassed
They way Colton looked at Ben H. though 😍🤔😂
Olivia Angelo OMG😂😂
Olivia Angelo yes my favs
41p11p1 you I iio0
Cassie is the one that makes a fool out of her self and doesn't want to be engaged!!!
carmela I'm betting she says she's not ready in the end
@@wideyedchick oh she does !
I don't believe Caelynn, I think Cassie isn't ready, but I feel she is the best match for him. Through the episode I did see how Tae could also be a good match too, and I love Hanna G's family.
I think the reason why Cassie reacted that way is she had been ignited by caelynn, I feel Caelynn is the true instigater.
Tulop s it’s funny because years ago if you were not married by 23 there was something wrong with you. Now it’s way too soon lol
Good point Marilyn , the maturity of these girls aren't the same though.
Or the guys , look at Nick , he sleeps around , with all the bachelorettes , and is looking for a wife,
on national television
Becca Tilley for the bachelorette 😂❤️
Great idea
angel capiendo yes
Becca deserves to find love like everyone else.
She would make a great Bachelorette!
Wouldn't be mad at that!
The girls that left didn’t dump him. They all had different legit reason. They didn’t leave because they weren’t into him. The interviewer is so annoying. Elyse left because the format of the show wasn’t working for her. Sydney left because Colton didn’t give her enough. Heather had a good reason she knew “she wasn’t ready for him to meet her family. There was no way she was making it to hometowns she knew it.
Rhe thing about this interviewer is, she's loud and out there but she says what we're all thinking. She's honest and provides new perspectives and conversation starters. She 's a good analyzer and she's kind of growing on me.
I don't understand the love people have for Cassie. She has zero substance.
Honestly Preethy V I think it’s just because reality Steve said that’s who he picks. And everyone just wants to sound like they picked the winner.
@@MusicIsLove2011 I think you're right. Honestly apart from this episode she has hardly had any screen time for ppl to be fangirling to the extent they are now.
Omg thank you lol
Cassie proves it’s true in the end but Colton is smitten. I think Taesyia and Colton were cute. They laughed, had fun, were mature, cute together, etc..
I feel like the bachelor used to be about people who have tried in love and it just didn't work out. They were given this chance to meet other people and find a Forever Love. But now it's just hot 20-somethings who have never dated before and don't know what they want or who they are.
Why is everyone so against Cassie and caeylnn if they said something I think they weren’t serious about it jeez and we are talking about “fakeness” how bout tayshia leaving her boyfriend days before filming tayshia made me mad last night
Honestly ,the best of all interviews have seen on this episode, thanks for your honesty.
Am I the only one that thinks the girls are talking shit about caelynn and Cassie because they’re just jealous?
CorinasMusic nope! I’m with you
In a previous episode, I so admired Tayshia's kindness and support of Nicole by confirming she had heard her conversation with Onyeka, yet I was very disappointed by Tayshia's not following through by sticking up for Nicole to Colton.
NO!!!! it was taken out of context. and Cassie called it.... desperation spilling out. Kirpa wasn't even in the running. i am team Cassie all the way!!!
You are stupid....spoiler he picks her and she leaves him becuase she isn't ready. Lol
hannah b for bachelorette?
I think Jared brought up a good point, in this day and age 23-26 tough to commit to a life time commitment
FINALLY you guys fixed the sound! (who the heck is doing the sound on this, a 5 year old?), finally all 3 on stage have similar mics and have similar sound levels.
Thank you to Trisha for saying something positive about Arie. Trisha did way better than other past interviews. I'll give her that. Hope Colton does find his true love.🌹🌷
Do you guys not see how EVERY time someone tattles, they leave? I believe Cassie and Caelynn way more! They're living their lives and not throwing anyone under the bus. Tayshia and Kirpa are tattlers.
Emily Rose Anderson if you know the signs of lying you would know caelynn and Cassie were flat out doing that, they couldn’t even look him in the eyes, and started name calling as soon as they were in the interviews, it’s not hard to believe they’re Instagram models who are young and Cassie was in reality show before this lol
Snitches get stitches!
I absolutely love Jared and Ashley!
Colton is definitely not ready......he needs to go to Montana or Siberia and get to know who he is. And let this whole virgin thing be over with.
Hahaha! 🙌 Yes
wt30001 😂
Ashley, jojo was 24 when she was the bachelorette
The problem is we don't know any of these women! The only people who got the most screen time is Hannah B, Caelyn and Demi
I honestly like Hannah G. more for staying out of the drama, even though she just seems like a pretty face with not much substance.
Married at 24 and husband was 23 🤷🏼♀️🙋🏼♀️ it’s really not that odd.
Jared! Yes! Is this show about just engagement with anyone?... or is it about someone you love.
Caylen, definitely was lying a lot. Look at her body language. Agree with you on the whole situation
I wish they would stop showing the clips for so freakin long, it made that pause seem like a technical mistake
I think Kirpa knew she was going home so she "sacrificed" her story to back up Taysha's and make it sound more legit.
Ok my opinion. Bachelor's always pick the girl they probably couldn't get a date with in real life. Bacherette woman nail it most of the time. As woman they listen to what is being told to them. The men are like that's troubling but Oh well. I hear he picks Cassie and I don't think she in it for a husband. I hope I'm wrong cause I do like him. I guess we will see. Love you Ashley & Jared, can't wait for your marriage and HAPPY you not doing it on TV. It's your day♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
poor Hannah b ..
Wait, the same one that that back stabbed?
In the promo it's Hannah B that said What Just Happened? And is crying which we haven't seen yet. Is she there when the fence jump happens?
Hannah B. for Bachelorette
Colton is the worst batchelor. He is totally a *it's me not you* guy but that's because he still doesn't know who he is yet. He's not fully grown emotionally that's why he likes the drama. It's a distraction to drown out the doubt in his mind that's he not ready.
The whole thing where Tayshia whispered at Kirpa at the end of the last episode that it would be the two of them at the end of this is so shady to me. I think that Tayshia is a lying bitch trying to throw the two front runners under the bus, and Kirpa is just the little sheep blindly following Tayshia. I can't stand either of them. I'm so happy Kirpa went home. Tayshia next, I hope.
Women leaving, women not ready for proposal.... it's a reflection of horrible screening / casting by producers. Making choices based on drama and conflict, rather than trying to find a genuine compatible bachelorette; it's just sad and disappointing.
I don't think any of the remaining girls from this season would make a good bachelorette. My vote is for Annaliese from BIP season 5. She kind of got screwed by the ending of that.
DISSAPOINTED IN TAYSHIA & KIRPA
I remember saying I wouldn't watch the one with Ari, but then I did. This one, not tempted in the slightest to watch it. Hoping they have a much better lead next time. I'm just here for Ashley and Jared, lol.
The only information in this that I care about is the book!! I'm definitely going to get that for my son.
Jared is a GeM. Ashley is Lucky to have him.
What about Tesha who literally said “it’s me and you in the end” like that’s sounds she saying one of us is going to be in the Bachelorette
She said "us two". She said it to Kirpa but I think she meant herself and whoever they thought the fake person is (Cassie I'm assuming). They knew Kirpa wasn't staying until the end.
I actually loved the host in this episode, it reminds me of how she used to be!
So this took a lot of investigating and what I've come up with is:
Kirpa and Tayshia are snakes slithering through the grass quietly. I just watched this weeks episode while they're back in Colton's hometown and IT SAID IT ALL. Kirpa and Tayshia planned to take out two powerful women in the house. Tayshia whispered to Kirpa "watch, it's going to be me and you in the end". I didn't really pay much attention to that because duh, they want to be the last ones in the end. There's no denying what Tayshia feels for Colton, she has deep feelings for him but the way she is trying to take out the women by spreading lies and what she "thinks she heard" to Colton and what her "opinion" is to the rest of the women is alarming. Also, Tayshia never spoke up when Oneyka spread the rumor about Nicole, even after telling the rest of the women she was there for that convo and said Nicole never said any of that. That speaks VOLUMES. Tayshia is going after Caelyn and Kirpa is going after Cassie. Caelyn spoke up for Cassie because they are true friends, that also speaks volumes. Ugh disgusting behavior, but wow am I impressed they had the balls to hatch that plan. Scary.
I heard that comment by Tayshia to Kirpa and was immediately suspicious. No one else has mentioned it. I'm surprised neither Jared nor Ashley did. Tayshia and Kirpa seem to be scheming and spreading hearsay. I, like Ashley, want Colton to be happy.
Two friends that are their for one man very sketchy, if they don't have a plan they wouldn't be that close ,the plan is bonding them together. Taysia was asked by colton in this episode but not in Nicole and onyeka's case so I don't see why she should. You people are just so defensive and so quick to absurd like your favourites.
Completely agree!!
Finally! Someone who sees it clearly! I agree with you! They are jealous snakes and they know he will choose Cassie so they are trying to take her down!
@@chelseaclark-martin6357 okay okay, I come with my tail tucked in between my legs. Kirpa and Tayshia were right, but I didn't like the way it was being brought up.
If Colton doesn't choose Hanna G, then she'd be one good contestant for the bachelorette.
+Others
1. Elyse
2. Hanna B
3. Kirpa could be interesting to watch
4. Taiysha I would even watch
Who definetly I would not watch are Cassie and Caeylin. Definetly not Caeylin. She's just two faced, only good when things are looking good for her, too much of a fake put on front of a goody girl.
Cassie, though likeable but too many tv shows.
Becca Tilley for bachelorette!!
He is scared of loving someone and the person not loving him back... He said it during the show...
Ok y’all I got married at 19 & we have been married still going strong we will be celebrating our 19th wedding anniversary on 3/25!! So it is about maturity at their age. When you go through a lot growing up I knew what I wanted! & wasn’t going to settle for less! & I was blessed!🧡🦋🙏🌺🧡
I like Hannah B for bachelorette. The way she left and said “I will not allow myself to not feel chosen every single day & I will wait till whenever that is” it was pretty awesome 👏 and he has like the best weirdest screen moments and have a show based on her there will be more of that. She also left graceful no drama around her she was in love and Colton really was rude for taking her home to his family.
Good lord....23 is too young to be bachelorette? I was 23 and gave birth to my 3rd & 4th babies(twins)....But, then again that was 1982. People seem to get married much, much later these days. I wonder why Colton at the age of 25 is considered more mature than these 23yr old women? Really?
Right! I had my second and last child at 22 and having been married now for 21 years I’m pretty sure I wasn’t too young.
I feel bad for the fertility struggles of women who feel like you shouldn’t even be serious about marriage before 30. I’m going to be 40 this year and my youngest is graduating from high school and turning 18. That’s amazing. We are friends and we can relate to each other. Super glad I’m not 50-60 when my kids are graduating which is the new norm.
I’m not bashing older moms. I’m just saying the acting like getting married and having kids young is a pretty biologically normal idea and treating young women as if they’re children until 25 is strange.
Fertility struggles after 30? My mom always told me that people change so much in their 20's. She had kids at 37 and 39 with no issues. If someone is not mature enough to marry before 30, they should wait. Everyone is different. Maybe, just maybe, people just don't want kids as much today, at all. Look at what's happening with the environment. And, millennials are crushed by debt. I wouldn't think of bringing a kid into the world when I'm this much in debt. Nice to graduate at the height of the recession when there were little jobs in my field. So don't judge what you don't know.
violethill37 it’s not judgement of older mothers it’s just pointing out the absurdity of the constant judgement of younger mothers. That’s great that your mom had kids with no struggle in her late 30’s. That’s not the norm. Fertility peaks for women between 22-27. Then it declines slowly until around 35 and very sharply after that. At 39 a woman has a 5% chance of getting pregnant in any given cycle with no intervention. The biological reality that our bodies are most able to get pregnant and give birth in our early to mid twenties is not an opinion. Waiting to have children until you’re in your thirties is absolutely something you should do if you’re uncertain about having children. But acting as if it’s what people “should” do is wrong biologically. Just as wrong as if I said women “should” have babies then and ignore if they are personally ready.
I think everyone should do what’s right for them without looking to society to tell them what is too old or too young. I had babies young. I’m happy with that decision. I have been infertile since my early 30’s because of adenomyosis and endometriosis and finally just had a hysterectomy at 39. If I had waited I wouldn’t have been able to have biological children. Which is fine, if I wasn’t ready I could have had no children or adopted, but if I had let other people tell me I shouldn’t be getting married or having kids because I was too young that would have been the consequence.
I have friends who are both older and younger mothers. I support them all. Convincing the younger generation to be children until they’re 30 and then think about motherhood isn’t a biologically sound idea. I’m just pointing out that reality. Not advocating that anyone do what they aren’t ready for.
@@jenniferford2067 if you look at fertility charts, visually, the "sharp" decline you reference is more like after age 39. there is a "steady" decline happening starting from early 20's. and the idea that people who don't have kids before 30 are still "children"? Come on... what would you say people who never have kids are- forever children? At 22 or 23 how many people have lived on their own, completely independent for more than a few years? How many people at 22, just out of college if they went, have a well-established career or the immediate potential for it, even if they have a spouse, so that if something were to happen to their spouse, they would still be able to support a child, let alone themselves. That is the fear my aunt always had for my cousin, who married young. There are also more small "life stages" than you may realize, psychologically speaking, that are starting to be talked about, and I would argue that these psychological reasons for finding the optimal time to procreate are just as important, if not more so, than biological. Yes, you were an adult, but you were a YOUNG adult. And I haven't even talked about men- the male brain doesn't even fully form until, what is it- 25? 26? Sorry to ramble, but these are also points worth thinking about.
"Three girls have left Colton. Has that happened before?" Yeah, with Juan Pablo.
Kristina Schumann should be bachelorette.
Spolier.. Colton is the next bachelorette!
I just want this season to end already. So boring, doesn’t seem to be any real love story happening. Just ugh! It’s like one big, long, boring Instagram post.
same plus everyone is so young it makes the drama so annoying to watch
This season is definitely not boring.
SPOT ON
Ashley!! Where is your leather jacket from?/what size is it?
I feel like this season is going to be a big downer at the end. Colton strikes me as a Boy-Man who can't figure himself out and needs assurance from the girls that they're Ready and all the while he's not really sure himself. I think I know why Cassie bolts as the spoilers hint....she sees that he's indecisive and that scared her....can't blame her....that's my take and I think that's why there's no ring in the box in the promo with him at the end. Honestly, I wasn't happy about him being the bachelor in the first place....what's next? A secret Trans? (I'd like to see that!) Wouldn't surprise me.
Aww no it makes me sad though for people to make these types of assumptions, I love Jared and Ashley and usually all there takes on the episodes but I disagree with the Caelynn and Cassie thing. Its funny because I actually felt more of a fake vibe from Tayashia and Kirpa and feel like Caelynn and Cassie seem really genuine! Also If you actually look at the show Cassie did before the bachelor it was filmed a couple years ago but the first season was AIRED more recently, and they do that for strategic purposes knowing they will get more watchers with it coming out closer to the bachelor airing. You can even tell in the episodes of that show she previously did, she’s much younger in it!
Also no it’s not for fetched to think maybe 23 years olds wouldn’t be ready for marriage but honestly everybody is gonna have a different belief on that depending on the experience they have personally lived. I know a lot of people who have been ready to settle down at that young of an age. Does that mean they won’t have growing to do? No! They will, but I wouldn’t go so far to say people that young wouldn’t be ready. Goodness, Jo Jo was 24 or 25 as the bachelorette! Anyways, I kinda think the girls thought Katie meant something and then looked way to much into it and assumed Cassie and Caelynn with whatever their own “opinions” were but that doesn’t make it facts and shouldn’t have been addressed to Colton in a “this is what they said” way, if Tayashia even told Cassie it was just her opinion! Lol long rant 😂
Oh, please.
Why would suddenly almost all Bachelor alums start hating on Cassie?! Like Jordan, and now Jared and Ashley. I'm disappointed, though they might already have some inside scoop and that's why they're hating on her. C'mon. Every time I hear Katy I'm like who?!
Trusting on Kirpa and Taisha or whatever her name is, is not a reliable source. It's pretty obvious that they're just jealous because they can't compete and they feel that Cassie and Cailyn are front runners, that's why they're trying to sabotage them, like c'mon the one he had his most deepest conversation in the show and the one he supposedly chooses...
Ya'll lost your damn minds.
Bye, Felicia... Or should I say Tashia and Kirpa ✌🏻 deuces.
Cassie is super immature and young. Spoilers prove it. She was never there to get engaged or to fall in love.
Well everything they said was true, Cassie didn’t want a proposal
Olivia Angelo well I love Cassie but she wasn’t ready
Cassie was there to fall in love and get engaged. She makes that clear in her preview. She couldn’t possibly have known how she would feel after only one date with Colton.
they probably know more inside scoop but can't spoil it
For those who say Cassie and Caelynn are shady, like of course they get shady when people go and talk shit about them! I’d be pissed if someone said something negative to the person I like without a genuine reason.
They might’ve just had a conversation about readiness which I’m sure every other girl would think that! They never said a bad thing about anyone to him ever
And also why would Taysha say that I know it will be us two at the end to Kirpa? Maybe she had plans
Cassie seemed real to me
Caylinn seemed fake
I'm sorry but what about the fact that Tasia and Kirpa whispered we're going to be the last 2 watch prior to last episode??
I know right!!!! Nobody is talking about that. For me, that discredits everything she says::))
Colton isn't ready to be married either. Why are y'all so down on Cassie and Caelynn for maybe not being ready either. Also, this show never works anyway. I think at this point Colton should just go with whoever he likes the most rather than going on and on about whether they're ready or not.
Hannah G is the most genuine one. I wish he would choose her. I think in the long run they would be better matched than anyone else. If not, I'd love to see her be the bachelorette. I think she would be more outgoing if she was the lead.
What about Katie or Sydney being the next Bachelorette? They arent top 4 but I feel like they are good choices.
Your fiance's right, Ashley. Kirpa wasn't asked about it. Like Jared said, she kept saying "if Colton asks me." However, as soon as Colton said anything about it BUT didn't ask her about it, she was ready to say her opinion and did so. Colton asked her if she had heard or seen anything [directly] or did it come from Katie, but that was only after Kirpa already told Colton her opinion and named people.
I think Chris Harrison tells him that he needs to propose and he doesn't feel ready for it. I think that's what causes him to take off and jump the fence.