SpEffect is the term used in the game files for various effects that are applied to the player or NPCs. It most likely stands for Special Effect. SpEffects include things like the healing from drinking Estus, Havel's Ring increasing your equip load, the poison status you get from the swamp, decreased movement speed from the stone guardians, and even the entire Dragon Form.There are over 800 different SpEffects in Dark Souls 1, so they do a lot. The amount of people who have commented on the term has really reminded me how odd it probably sounds for people outside the modding community.
is SpEffect short for Spell Effect or Special Effect? Neither would surprise me, but it makes me think of how in all of bethesda's creation engine games, any piece of armor or weapons or whatever that have any kind of bonus effects on them get them from enchantments. If you open up power armor in the GECK that bonus strength? Comes right from an enchantment.
I forgot that if you told Laurent about where you get chaos fb he goes hollow down there, so I had to restart my pyro build bc I didn't get a +10 pyromancy flame before he died.
@@kennethsmith5383 oof, you could have gone to the egg dude as an egghead in the Chaos Servants Covenant, he also gives you a couple spells on top of an additional pyro flame
@@finnishraider9871 I always get Laurentius killed because I always forget he dies if you tell him where you got your chaos pyromancy. I don't think he's ever survived a pyromancy playthrough of mine. :P
@@planescaped I heard about that, but I still talked to him and told the truth right after I got the final Soul and was getting ready to go to the Kiln. (Having completed Quelana's questline just earlier as well.) Still went to Kiln and linked the flame a little later. My headcanon is that he either did not have the time to go hollow, or only lost some of himself before the link, and became one of forerunners to Londor.
While super specific, it makes sense that there's an animation for it. Catacombs used to be a super popular invasions spot and many a time I've stabbed someone hiding in there. Ah to play for the first time again. That's the dream.
Other RPGs: Put merchant in legitimately safe spot without enemies Dark Souls: Put merchant directly within line of boulder chucking enemy's line of sight Thank you Dark Souls.
Most invasions happen at the bonfire sewer or near the Slug field, I guess. That's where 90% of mine happened over 10 years (including Mildred). Running anywhere near the boulder chucking barbarians during an invasion sounds like a bad idea in general.
"Why hello young undead; welcome to my little hideout where I have successfully avoided danger for a thousand years. You seem to be in quite a rush; eager to learn pyromancies I take it...?" BULDER
The safest tactic in dark souls is quitout, resetting enemies when you're surrounded! Though I feel bad for Quelana for chilling and being attacked by flying boulders.
That'll show her for not moving to Firelink and choosing the worst possible spot in Blighttown. There's a bonfire RIGHT there in the tunnel! Just walk!
@@HeavyMetalMonk888 You basically turn back time for everything but yourself(And even for yourself when needed, like before dying because of a fall), that shit is unironically op lol
I remember getting such a heart attack when one of those guys threw a boulder at Quelana. She didn't die thankfully and I like quit instantly but still I felt so bad
On the one hand, I feel like a total nerd for liking Dark Souls so much that I find videos like this interesting. On the other hand, I'm clearly not alone.
I kind of wish that NPCs in this game fought enemies with you. It would make them feel more like a part of the world, and also help you to notice them more easily. You help to clear out the area, and then they’ll do business with you.
I feel like they would die far too frequently for that to be beneficial. What would have been better is more NPCs having their white summon sign mid way to the boss to help you through the area. That way they wouldn't really die.
@@j.k.4479 Yeah, that could be okay, but I feel like white signs really don’t feel like a part of the world around you. I also don’t think the NPCs should die easily to enemies, to be clear. Quelaana is one of the first pyromancers and in turn, one of the greatest of all time. She should be able to beat blighttown’s Poop Men™ without breaking a sweat. Plus, she doesn’t show up until you have a +10 pyro flame, so it’s not like she’d make the area too easy. By the time she appears, blighttown isn’t really a major threat anymore, and having her easily destroy a bunch of enemies would help to show off how much of a bonafide badass she is. Also, a lot of the NPCs in the game should-just logically speaking-probably come back to life when they die, if we’re being honest. Most of them are undead, and resurrecting is kind of the undead’s whole deal. Maybe if you kill them, you turn human and get a bunch of souls, but they become pissed with you the next time that they come back. That would also fulfill the Crestfallen’s comment about “stealing humanity from a healthy undead” for offline players.
There's a lot of things FROM could do to make their non-AC games feel (ironic, I know) *alive*, and NPC interacting with the world and player even slightly proactively is one of them. There's no wandering "Chosen Undead"/"Bearer of the Curse"/"Ashen One" (or even generic neutral undead mooks), all the NPCs are standing and talking lawn installments unless slapped (but even then they just return to their lawn installment spot and nothing changes,) and nobody really makes note of any changes to the world, other NPCs or to the player's journey outside of a few key moments for a few key NPCs or their "quests." Like yeah, sure, the world is pretty fucked from the player/protagonist's perspective (although that's more so because we never ever saw the places with relatively...thriving(?)... populations or small villages, but we know they exist,) but they can't be the only ones trying to fix or change things.
Well, you get the effect also that you see an NPC swinging weapons around and you're thinking to yourself "Oh shit, I'm totally next." The game doesn't have any indicators who is friendly or not beyond "this person is just sitting here, they're probably ok."
@@j.k.4479 That first sentence there, that's probably the main reason that NPCs are passive (and enemies are passive towards them). You'd have to seriously buff the NPCs or code in an inability to die to avoid the scourge of first time players of your game getting super frustrated that all the NPCs keep getting themselves killed. That then would be a problem if you intend for them to be player kill-able which, yeah you can have multiple versions of all such NPCs but that times more dev time.
today i learned about a specific mechanic i never would have guessed existed: hiding in a coffin. i knew about using it to get to Nito,but i didnt know about using them to hide, much less that there'd ba a specific "backstab" animation for it.
@@pitbul2877 you know, the Gravelord covenant? hop in a coffin to get moved to Nito's boss room where is sleeping and you can join from there. its VERY missable.
@@weebslack9373 Gravelord Greatsword is probably one of the best looking weapon in Dark Souls aesthetically and thematically, don't @ me. If only it and Gravelord Sword Dance were better and even slightly viable....but that can be said about the covenant as well, even when it works
Wait... So that's why Quelana can't be seen by most people. She just set up some sort of invisibility ward so she could chill, and if you happen to step into it, you become invisible too. Deepest Lore!
I remember in the mosquito video you mentioning this safe spot, and at the time I wondered if you could find a way to break it, and well... Here we are.
I can quit out super fast, but hotswapping items mid combat still feels impossible. I'll fight someone naked with my fists over taking the time to switch, I'm less likely to die that way...
@@shavedata5436 I've played the entire game several times, never had a need to do that, in other words, speed quit is useful if you can do it but is not necessary at all. Regardless, I think he's talking about going through menus fast in general, since that was the original comment about, which is also helpful but not necessary too.
@@shavedata5436 How much is a lot in percentage? because the only deaths I care are the boss ones. Not everyone wants to play the "optimal" way, you may think is worth the time or easy, but not everyone sees it that way.
Are there any other npcs that share this "safe space" mechanic that Quelana has? I definitely would've appreciated having it for the Rosabeth encounter with the Goblin gank in DS2.
In my first playthrough I pulled the lever right after freeing Rosabeth, not knowing what would happen. Non of the enemies attacked Rosabeth, they just ganked my ass.
@@ZullietheWitch while trying to come up with a solution I made a shocking question in return. do any hostiles in ds1 have patrol routes? the most i have come up with is the snakemen in dukes
Really, honestly, idk why. I absolutely love the franchise Lore. But something about these technical mysteries and expositions that you do Zullie grabs me in a way increasingly more fascinating than the same old scraps of stories I've fought through, thought about and shared with my friends a dozen times over. I love your work 🧡
Talking about enemy detection range for sight and hearing makes me think about iron keep in dark souls 2 and those damn knights who's sight and hearing must be a several mile radius
WOW! That beginning, though! 💥 I had no idea you could actually get Quelana killed like that. Usually, I approach her from the sidelines, to avoid aggroeing as many enemies as possible. Good thing I never tried to simply B-line towards her whenever I went shopping for her Pyromancies, cause that would've been DEMORALIZING as shit in my playthrough! 🤣
That little pile of muck was the bane of my SL1 run, having to watch those flys float towards you and hope they turn around. Thanks for the quitout tip, never knew that.
Quitout is super useful any time your pulling a lot of aggro or if your falling, it's start, left, up, select, [right/left], select. You might die when you spawn back in, but it just saves sooo much annoyance when your at that point of the game. Quitout resets buildup to zero? but also restarts poision/toxic burn time so if your not careful it can lead you to getting killed, enemies take a second to aggro so it's my favored way of getting past the Anor Londo archers, open the menu well running and quit out instead of rolling through the arrow on the ledge itself. You'll lose the rear archers aggro and you can hang back so SK will pull a bow again for easy melee or charge forward and engage him with the sword. Also any boss fight will get reset with you just outside the fog as an easy alternative to trying to Bone out mid-fight.
Could you imagine what it would be like if they instantly lost sight of you when you went into the area? The enemies would stop and then walk away as if they were afraid of approaching Quelana.
They are absolutely amazing, you can skim through the whole game with a magic only build like that, you use the ring to extend the duration of spells, and then you silence your footsteps and become invisible.
@@Richie_Godsil Damn, and I thought Chameleon was way better and tried going past them with it. Needless to say, it never goes too well. (You can get past all the Painting Guardians with Chameleon, though.)
They were never useless. Hidden Body is very useful & carried my ass through Duke's Archive. Especially after NG+3 when even normal enemies can 2-shot you easily.
I know you probably did that one where Quelana gets killed deliberately, but it still hurt my soul to watch that. Even if the comedic timing was _excellent_
For the weird backstab animation, they probably used Object Oriented Programming method to set the status on the player, and programmed the coffin bit first without thinking about it being used elsewhere. So then when the swamp programming guys made that area they likely just called the 'hide' method on the player and never saw the backstab animation in testing.
So the way SpEffects work is, each SpEffect is represented by an ID that gets stuck on a character, and the game references that ID against the SpEffect Param data to see how that character should be affected. Each param entry has an array of values that assign different qualities to the SpEffect, like increasing or decreasing the affected character's HP, spawning a VFX somewhere on the characters's model, or even deciding if it should show an icon below the healthbar, etc. Both 4130 and 4140, the coffin and Quelana spEffects respectively, have the value for Throw Condition set to 3. So when a character goes to perform a backstab on another character that has one of those SpEffects applied, the Throw Manager spots the modified Throw Condition and switches what Throw is performed to the coffin stab one. Since the param entries are unique, there's really no reason they should have ever changed the Quelana SpEffect's Throw Condition value, which is what makes me think they just copied the values over from the coffin one and tweaked it instead of starting fresh, overlooking the Throw Condition in the process.
Once again I have to say that this is really impressive and I really enjoy these cool vids about lore and how the game functions. On a separate not I think its super cool that you seem to respond to comments reasonably often, I'm definitely a new and now big fan ✌
A very clever trick. I looks like the janky nature of the effect could be a result of the somewhat rushed/unfinished development the game had. I'm sure they would have changed the backstab animation back to the normal versions if they had the time.
I always feel so uncomfortable whenever I see Quelana sitting barefoot in the swamp mud. Somehow, it feels more unnatural than... most of the things you have to deal with to beat the game, basically.
Imagine from Quelana's point of view, sitting down there all these years, not being bothered, then all of a sudden you hear some random person splashing around on the other side of your pillar. You lift your head up and immediately see a boulder coming directly for your face. Since you've been sitting down the entire time, your legs are asleep, and you can't do anything puff into soul dust. Brutal.
I love the deconstruction of video games like this, because you can kinda see what an average day at the office was like working on this project. "We already have some of the work done with this coffin code, let's just use that and save on some space."
It's cool to know how this works and why, but even cooler that you provide a fix for it. It's certainly one thing to understand the problem but usually the question: "Ok...but wtf do I DO about it?" goes unanswered. I'm sure I'm not alone in my appreciation of you taking the time to explain AND solve the problem. You've saved the lives of many innocent controllers this day.
had no idea there were SpEffects like this in the game, i just gave NPC's in 'hostile' areas a really wide berth till i'd cleared the zone before i risked talking to them.
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SpEffect is the term used in the game files for various effects that are applied to the player or NPCs. It most likely stands for Special Effect. SpEffects include things like the healing from drinking Estus, Havel's Ring increasing your equip load, the poison status you get from the swamp, decreased movement speed from the stone guardians, and even the entire Dragon Form.There are over 800 different SpEffects in Dark Souls 1, so they do a lot. The amount of people who have commented on the term has really reminded me how odd it probably sounds for people outside the modding community.
Hey Zullie, can you make a video about the flexile sentry's fight in DS2, I wanna see how the water behaves outside of the boss room and stuff.
is SpEffect short for Spell Effect or Special Effect?
Neither would surprise me, but it makes me think of how in all of bethesda's creation engine games, any piece of armor or weapons or whatever that have any kind of bonus effects on them get them from enchantments. If you open up power armor in the GECK that bonus strength? Comes right from an enchantment.
i think i am one of them lol, also can you do a video showing the divine dragon arena? and where it ends?
I had never seen or heard that term before, but it only took two times for me to decipher it.
@@spookmeyer970 Good old code reuse
It may be the safest spot in Blight Town, but it's still Blight Town
can't have shit in Blighttown
Welcome to Detroit!
@@ieatvirgins Techincally, you can have all the shit you want
@@ieatvirgins everything is shit in Blight Town
Well said
Nothing quite like seeing Quelana get smushed by a boulder while you're just trying to get some pyromancies.
Or seeing Dusk getting destroyed by a Crystal golem.
Just tryin to get some privracy around the flame...
This is how boulder heave was created
D E E P E S T L O R E
SMASH(?...zullie lemme smash...
"Woman get smash by a big man while a young hollow watch in horror"
"To make it easier to interact with Quelana, this patch of land gives you a speffect to- BOULDER!"
Quelana died so quickly, knowing how embarassing that was.
I didnt expect that to happen really. Lol
Lol
BOMBARDMENT
*AND HERE COMES A GIANT ROCK*
You can't imagine the suffering of a Pyro build losing quelana first visit from mosquito aoe
I forgot that if you told Laurent about where you get chaos fb he goes hollow down there, so I had to restart my pyro build bc I didn't get a +10 pyromancy flame before he died.
@@kennethsmith5383 oof, you could have gone to the egg dude as an egghead in the Chaos Servants Covenant, he also gives you a couple spells on top of an additional pyro flame
@@finnishraider9871 i always did this, but only because its so satisfying actually getting enemies in the extra lava ticks on chaos pyro.
@@finnishraider9871 I always get Laurentius killed because I always forget he dies if you tell him where you got your chaos pyromancy.
I don't think he's ever survived a pyromancy playthrough of mine. :P
@@planescaped I heard about that, but I still talked to him and told the truth right after I got the final Soul and was getting ready to go to the Kiln. (Having completed Quelana's questline just earlier as well.)
Still went to Kiln and linked the flame a little later. My headcanon is that he either did not have the time to go hollow, or only lost some of himself before the link, and became one of forerunners to Londor.
The real trivia here is that the coffin has a unique animation for being attacked in it. That’s so ridiculously specific.
"Miyazaki" is spelled with the characters for "psychotic" and "detail".
I would just assume you're invincible in there
While super specific, it makes sense that there's an animation for it. Catacombs used to be a super popular invasions spot and many a time I've stabbed someone hiding in there. Ah to play for the first time again. That's the dream.
Do you also know that the boars have a backstabbing animation?
@@trempton4106 the first boar (just after hellkite) can actually be backstabbed
I laughed really hard at quelana getting suddenly hit by the Boulder
That "Farewell, my mother, my sisters" made it even more hilarious.
Good stuff.
Eric Andre show levels of comedic timing.
Me too.
same
FATALITY
Other RPGs: Put merchant in legitimately safe spot without enemies
Dark Souls: Put merchant directly within line of boulder chucking enemy's line of sight
Thank you Dark Souls.
Or Straid in DS2
Perfection
Also make merchant invisible in out of the way area you are extremely unlikely to come back to.
"you talk big for someone who is in boulder throwing range."
@@ChillHollow
One of my biggest fears was not to kill shakhid zombies fast enough for them not to murder Straid on an accident.
Fun fact: the special coffin backstab animation was shown in one of the trailers for Dark Souls 1 all the way back in 2011.
how did I ever NOT see that backstab in Quelana's safe spot? Damn that's so… neat-o
As neat-o as the Gravelord?
Kinky one at that
It's a pubestab
"Whom dare summon the RaveLord"
Most invasions happen at the bonfire sewer or near the Slug field, I guess. That's where 90% of mine happened over 10 years (including Mildred). Running anywhere near the boulder chucking barbarians during an invasion sounds like a bad idea in general.
"You're in a safe spot"
"That mean i'm safe right?"
"...."
"That mean i'm safe righ-"
YOU DIED
"I HATE BLIGHTPUS. IT'S STICKY, AND IT'S IRRITATING, AND IT GETS EVERYWHERE."
"Well now that you're here it's not going to get MORE dangerous at least"
*BOLDA RORADAAA!*
"Why hello young undead; welcome to my little hideout where I have successfully avoided danger for a thousand years. You seem to be in quite a rush; eager to learn pyromancies I take it...?"
BULDER
The safest tactic in dark souls is quitout, resetting enemies when you're surrounded! Though I feel bad for Quelana for chilling and being attacked by flying boulders.
That'll show her for not moving to Firelink and choosing the worst possible spot in Blighttown.
There's a bonfire RIGHT there in the tunnel! Just walk!
@@TheMrTangamandapio Maybe she’s just scared to go in the poison and would rather stay in a speffect
Cry in DS2 where enemies stay on their last location.
It really is the universal DS1 tech. My bro and I joke that the most OP tactic in the game is "quit spam"... but it's really not even a joke.
@@HeavyMetalMonk888 You basically turn back time for everything but yourself(And even for yourself when needed, like before dying because of a fall), that shit is unironically op lol
I remember getting such a heart attack when one of those guys threw a boulder at Quelana. She didn't die thankfully and I like quit instantly but still I felt so bad
Quelana about to stretch herself for a split-second before realizing the player just logged back in, then she quickly drop back into position.
I get stressed whenever I go there because I have to be so precise killing the mosquitos or spiders without accidentally aggroing Quelana.
Why not just kill everything that's aggro'd to you THEN visit her?
@@crunglemcbungley We already covered this, the mosquitos spawn 25 times and have infinite aggro, aint nobody got time for that.
@@IrvineTheHunter Just git good
Throwing knives
I have no idea how that was ever a real issue here, this is not a dangerous spot.
On the one hand, I feel like a total nerd for liking Dark Souls so much that I find videos like this interesting. On the other hand, I'm clearly not alone.
Shit, I've never played a From Soft game and these videos are fucking fascinating to me.
@@CertMediocre Why don't you start, it will shimmer you blind!
I fucking love videos like this, regardless of game...
NNNEEEEEEEEERRRRRD!!!
Same. ;)
Nerrrrrrrrd (affectionate)
I kind of wish that NPCs in this game fought enemies with you. It would make them feel more like a part of the world, and also help you to notice them more easily. You help to clear out the area, and then they’ll do business with you.
I feel like they would die far too frequently for that to be beneficial. What would have been better is more NPCs having their white summon sign mid way to the boss to help you through the area. That way they wouldn't really die.
@@j.k.4479 Yeah, that could be okay, but I feel like white signs really don’t feel like a part of the world around you. I also don’t think the NPCs should die easily to enemies, to be clear. Quelaana is one of the first pyromancers and in turn, one of the greatest of all time. She should be able to beat blighttown’s Poop Men™ without breaking a sweat. Plus, she doesn’t show up until you have a +10 pyro flame, so it’s not like she’d make the area too easy. By the time she appears, blighttown isn’t really a major threat anymore, and having her easily destroy a bunch of enemies would help to show off how much of a bonafide badass she is.
Also, a lot of the NPCs in the game should-just logically speaking-probably come back to life when they die, if we’re being honest. Most of them are undead, and resurrecting is kind of the undead’s whole deal. Maybe if you kill them, you turn human and get a bunch of souls, but they become pissed with you the next time that they come back. That would also fulfill the Crestfallen’s comment about “stealing humanity from a healthy undead” for offline players.
There's a lot of things FROM could do to make their non-AC games feel (ironic, I know) *alive*, and NPC interacting with the world and player even slightly proactively is one of them. There's no wandering "Chosen Undead"/"Bearer of the Curse"/"Ashen One" (or even generic neutral undead mooks), all the NPCs are standing and talking lawn installments unless slapped (but even then they just return to their lawn installment spot and nothing changes,) and nobody really makes note of any changes to the world, other NPCs or to the player's journey outside of a few key moments for a few key NPCs or their "quests."
Like yeah, sure, the world is pretty fucked from the player/protagonist's perspective (although that's more so because we never ever saw the places with relatively...thriving(?)... populations or small villages, but we know they exist,) but they can't be the only ones trying to fix or change things.
Well, you get the effect also that you see an NPC swinging weapons around and you're thinking to yourself "Oh shit, I'm totally next." The game doesn't have any indicators who is friendly or not beyond "this person is just sitting here, they're probably ok."
@@j.k.4479 That first sentence there, that's probably the main reason that NPCs are passive (and enemies are passive towards them). You'd have to seriously buff the NPCs or code in an inability to die to avoid the scourge of first time players of your game getting super frustrated that all the NPCs keep getting themselves killed. That then would be a problem if you intend for them to be player kill-able which, yeah you can have multiple versions of all such NPCs but that times more dev time.
"But Miyazaki-san... what if somebody is hiding in the coffin?"
".............dear God......"
Zullie slow walking with angry mobs trailing behind her is a fantastic image. They’re politely trying to kill her by walking at her pace.
today i learned about a specific mechanic i never would have guessed existed: hiding in a coffin.
i knew about using it to get to Nito,but i didnt know about using them to hide, much less that there'd ba a specific
"backstab" animation for it.
to get to Nito? what???
@@pitbul2877 you know, the Gravelord covenant? hop in a coffin to get moved to Nito's boss room where is sleeping and you can join from there. its VERY missable.
@@ArcRay20 what the fuck. All this time I thought that run in was totally awful and long but there was no alternative
Also rewarded for a greatsword and a miracle
@@weebslack9373 Gravelord Greatsword is probably one of the best looking weapon in Dark Souls aesthetically and thematically, don't @ me. If only it and Gravelord Sword Dance were better and even slightly viable....but that can be said about the covenant as well, even when it works
Dark souls: a series where nothing is finished unless unintentional
Wait... So that's why Quelana can't be seen by most people. She just set up some sort of invisibility ward so she could chill, and if you happen to step into it, you become invisible too.
Deepest Lore!
"What are you doing in my swamp?!"
I can tell you from personal experience that this still seems like a far safer spot to sit down at than certain areas of Firelink Shrine.
Heh...
*Fish from SpongeBob*: How many times do we have kick you off a mountain, Old Man?!
No cliffs nearby, I guess
I am more surprised there's a special animation for attack someone in the rave zone coffin
I remember in the mosquito video you mentioning this safe spot, and at the time I wondered if you could find a way to break it, and well... Here we are.
you have to find a way to make it work correctly lol
This is actually a well integrated tutorial on quick menuing, which is an important skill to develop in dark souls.
I can quit out super fast, but hotswapping items mid combat still feels impossible. I'll fight someone naked with my fists over taking the time to switch, I'm less likely to die that way...
@Zach B. quitting out quickly is one extremely important skill that can supercharge your souls success rate
@@shavedata5436 I've played the entire game several times, never had a need to do that, in other words, speed quit is useful if you can do it but is not necessary at all.
Regardless, I think he's talking about going through menus fast in general, since that was the original comment about, which is also helpful but not necessary too.
@@Inferryu you don't "need" to do it, but it will save you from dying a lot if you get good at it.
@@shavedata5436 How much is a lot in percentage? because the only deaths I care are the boss ones. Not everyone wants to play the "optimal" way, you may think is worth the time or easy, but not everyone sees it that way.
I'm learning more in game design thanks to your videos than from 6 years in the gaming industry!
...which tells a lot of good and a lot of bad...
Are there any other npcs that share this "safe space" mechanic that Quelana has? I definitely would've appreciated having it for the Rosabeth encounter with the Goblin gank in DS2.
Or getting a pimp slap from those pimp dudes in Bloodborne when I'm trying to talk to Eileen
In my first playthrough I pulled the lever right after freeing Rosabeth, not knowing what would happen. Non of the enemies attacked Rosabeth, they just ganked my ass.
@@Sharkamfss same here lol
I won't say no, but I will say I don't know of any others.
@@ZullietheWitch while trying to come up with a solution I made a shocking question in return. do any hostiles in ds1 have patrol routes? the most i have come up with is the snakemen in dukes
Feel a lot better about my own programming seeing these kinds of things
The one thing I've learned about programming is that it's always held together with super glue and duct tape.
Literally never knew about that coffin until watching this video. Crazy how I'm still learning things about this game.
lmfao the laying down backstab is right in the groin. the dark souls of backstabs
Really, honestly, idk why. I absolutely love the franchise Lore. But something about these technical mysteries and expositions that you do Zullie grabs me in a way increasingly more fascinating than the same old scraps of stories I've fought through, thought about and shared with my friends a dozen times over.
I love your work 🧡
Hat's off to you zullie setting up that gag for the intro, that had me grinning.
Talking about enemy detection range for sight and hearing makes me think about iron keep in dark souls 2 and those damn knights who's sight and hearing must be a several mile radius
what if quelana getting killed by boulders made them create the boulder heave pyromancy?
I remember seeing the coffin backstab a long time ago in a video but I forgot about it until now. I gotta find someone to backstab near Quelana now
-How do we know Zullie is a witch?
-Because... they’re made of wood!
*Coconuts clacking*
Lmfao I love the backstab animation bug that's so quirky.
WOW! That beginning, though! 💥
I had no idea you could actually get Quelana killed like that. Usually, I approach her from the sidelines, to avoid aggroeing as many enemies as possible.
Good thing I never tried to simply B-line towards her whenever I went shopping for her Pyromancies, cause that would've been DEMORALIZING as shit in my playthrough! 🤣
I love all the little details about this game. It feels like it's never ending the small touches and mysteries
Feels good to see someone actually using the SI system on the internet
I audibly gasped when the boulder hit her!
I guess I've been really lucky cuz I'm always a pyro in DS1 and never had Quelana killed before.
I once had Dusk killed by either a crystal golem attacking when I was talking to her, or my greatsword hitting her while I was fighting said golem.
really happy that you have the music sync with quelena being crushed by that boulder
Quelana: chilling
Player: looks safe enough
Big guy: cowabunga it is!
That little pile of muck was the bane of my SL1 run, having to watch those flys float towards you and hope they turn around. Thanks for the quitout tip, never knew that.
Quitout is super useful any time your pulling a lot of aggro or if your falling, it's start, left, up, select, [right/left], select. You might die when you spawn back in, but it just saves sooo much annoyance when your at that point of the game.
Quitout resets buildup to zero? but also restarts poision/toxic burn time so if your not careful it can lead you to getting killed, enemies take a second to aggro so it's my favored way of getting past the Anor Londo archers, open the menu well running and quit out instead of rolling through the arrow on the ledge itself.
You'll lose the rear archers aggro and you can hang back so SK will pull a bow again for easy melee or charge forward and engage him with the sword. Also any boss fight will get reset with you just outside the fog as an easy alternative to trying to Bone out mid-fight.
What I love about Zullies vids is that while the title itself is interesting, it's the "One more thing" at the end that always blows my mind.
Could you imagine what it would be like if they instantly lost sight of you when you went into the area?
The enemies would stop and then walk away as if they were afraid of approaching Quelana.
Dang, I never used the stealth spells because I assumed they would be worthless. Seeing a visual helps.
Hidden Body makes the Archers in Anor Londo so easy to get passed, I use it basically every playthrough
They are absolutely amazing, you can skim through the whole game with a magic only build like that, you use the ring to extend the duration of spells, and then you silence your footsteps and become invisible.
@@Richie_Godsil Damn, and I thought Chameleon was way better and tried going past them with it. Needless to say, it never goes too well. (You can get past all the Painting Guardians with Chameleon, though.)
They were never useless. Hidden Body is very useful & carried my ass through Duke's Archive. Especially after NG+3 when even normal enemies can 2-shot you easily.
@@RanmaruTheCurious absolutely, the Duke's archives is definitely the other place where I use it
I don't know what I'm going to do with all the useless information I've learned from this channel, but I like it and I'll keep watching.
Zullie you are a legend. Thank you for making my day every video you post! : )
I know you probably did that one where Quelana gets killed deliberately, but it still hurt my soul to watch that.
Even if the comedic timing was _excellent_
The real tragedy is that they didn’t use hiding mechanics more often in the game
Love your explanation of how the code executes. This is a fun example of turning a bug into a feature
I mever knew about the coffin, i always just blast my way through that demon lol
Oh. Thank you! I learned something cool and now have a near trick for my next playthrough.
Every single time I play this game both pyromancers die somehow.
I have no idea how you keep coming up with things to make a video of on a daily basis and still keep things interesting. Kudos to you!
Thats love for the game right there!
Your content is literal godtier. I love watching you while I do chores or in bed. Thank you so much for your passion 🥰🥰 keep doin you!
The jank in Dark Souls's code never cease to amuse me
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Ah yes, the legendary "Thigh Sword-Stopping Technique", yet to be mastered by the Chosen Undead
Damn this is one of your best vids!
Everyday i come onto this channel and learn new, cool stuff
Interesting to note! Glad you were able to answer my question from the last blighttown video
Damn. I had no idea that coffin backstab existed. Zullie is the queen of useless yet fascinating Dark Souls knowledge.
I’ve literally never seen that coffin stab animation before in my life
For the weird backstab animation, they probably used Object Oriented Programming method to set the status on the player, and programmed the coffin bit first without thinking about it being used elsewhere. So then when the swamp programming guys made that area they likely just called the 'hide' method on the player and never saw the backstab animation in testing.
So the way SpEffects work is, each SpEffect is represented by an ID that gets stuck on a character, and the game references that ID against the SpEffect Param data to see how that character should be affected. Each param entry has an array of values that assign different qualities to the SpEffect, like increasing or decreasing the affected character's HP, spawning a VFX somewhere on the characters's model, or even deciding if it should show an icon below the healthbar, etc. Both 4130 and 4140, the coffin and Quelana spEffects respectively, have the value for Throw Condition set to 3. So when a character goes to perform a backstab on another character that has one of those SpEffects applied, the Throw Manager spots the modified Throw Condition and switches what Throw is performed to the coffin stab one. Since the param entries are unique, there's really no reason they should have ever changed the Quelana SpEffect's Throw Condition value, which is what makes me think they just copied the values over from the coffin one and tweaked it instead of starting fresh, overlooking the Throw Condition in the process.
The last thing I expected was to watch Quelana get fucking decimated by a boulder, oh my god
That boulder out of nowhere slayed me. Well done Zullie
Once again I have to say that this is really impressive and I really enjoy these cool vids about lore and how the game functions. On a separate not I think its super cool that you seem to respond to comments reasonably often, I'm definitely a new and now big fan ✌
The timing of that boulder was perfect
Another interesting find! Ty for all you do
quelana: *exists*
boulder guy: *YOUR FREE TRIAL OF LIVING HAS ENDED*
Never knew that coffin attack existed. Now I want From to make a hide and seek game.
A very clever trick. I looks like the janky nature of the effect could be a result of the somewhat rushed/unfinished development the game had. I'm sure they would have changed the backstab animation back to the normal versions if they had the time.
Love your choice of songs.
Again another wonderful tip and another wonderful exposition.
So many years of this game being out and I only now discovered that you could backstab the guy if he is in the coffin
"To make it easier to interact with Quelana, this patch of land gives you a speffect which hides you fro-" *BOULDER!*
I’ve played that game so much. How did i not know about that backstab animation happening near Quelana?!
I always feel so uncomfortable whenever I see Quelana sitting barefoot in the swamp mud. Somehow, it feels more unnatural than... most of the things you have to deal with to beat the game, basically.
Seriously, the music has some LoD vibes. I love it
Thousands of hours in the souls series and I never knew there was a special animation for being stabbed in the coffin... well played.
Can we please all take a moment to think about the fact that there is an animation when attacking a player in the coffin.
I don't know why I watched this. I don't even play Dark Souls. This was great
That backstab animation lol. Totally worth the souls spent to buy all her sick pyromancies.
This is legit so fascinating. Reverse engineering games like this to explains bugs and quirks
I mean it wouldn't be Dark Souls without for us to *struggle*
I've never even played these games and I found this very interesting
Imagine from Quelana's point of view, sitting down there all these years, not being bothered, then all of a sudden you hear some random person splashing around on the other side of your pillar. You lift your head up and immediately see a boulder coming directly for your face. Since you've been sitting down the entire time, your legs are asleep, and you can't do anything puff into soul dust.
Brutal.
I love the deconstruction of video games like this, because you can kinda see what an average day at the office was like working on this project. "We already have some of the work done with this coffin code, let's just use that and save on some space."
It's cool to know how this works and why, but even cooler that you provide a fix for it. It's certainly one thing to understand the problem but usually the question: "Ok...but wtf do I DO about it?" goes unanswered. I'm sure I'm not alone in my appreciation of you taking the time to explain AND solve the problem. You've saved the lives of many innocent controllers this day.
Lmfao thats wild, i have never seen that coffin stab animation or known about it before now
I almost spit my drink LMAO hilarious intro
Quelana getting bodied by a boulder was absolutely incredible
LMAO the comedic timing of that boulder in the beginning
No Quelana's were harmed in the making of this video.
had no idea there were SpEffects like this in the game, i just gave NPC's in 'hostile' areas a really wide berth till i'd cleared the zone before i risked talking to them.
that coffin stab animation is pretty damn brutal